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Post  Choices on Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:39 pm

Puck - "I'm a sap."

Oh, me too. It will definitely be a many Kleenex movie for me. Not just for the content either, but for the fact that it is **gulp** the last.....the end of an era. Sad
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Puck on Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:37 am

Madame Pince mentioned the boat house. If I remember correctly there is one in the Wii game fro OotP, but that's the only place I have ever seen it. It would have been simple enough to go under the tree to the shack. Some of the changes are understandable, but some are just silly. (I once saw a movie where they changed the name of the main character. Why?)

Hmmm, they have tissue boxes with Cars, but what we really need is an HP box to bring to the theater! Sad
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Thom Matheson on Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:32 am

Sitting at the table talking to wife before she left for the office. As she gathered her things, she spilled my water. Mad dash for stuff. She went after the camera, my phone the mail, me, I just reached for my DH2 tickets that I had just printed. Priorities.
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Post  Verity Weasley on Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:40 am

Good to see you have your priorities right Thom!

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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Betelgeuse Black on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:00 pm

About the Harry/Hermione dance scene...

I thought it was a way of showing the non-book readers that the Harry/Hermione ship just wasn't there, even though they tried it out. They just weren't feeling that way.

Looking forward to Friday!

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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Puck on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:28 pm

Nice thought on that scene, BB. They did look like friends or siblings in that scene. No romance in it.

LOL Thom, about saving the tickets!
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WOW!!!

Post  Potteraholic on Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:37 am

Just got back from seeing it with some fellow HP-fan friends, and my mother, who's never read the books and has just seen some of the movies; she wanted to experience some of the 'this is the end of it all" experience, midnight show and all.

As a non-reader...
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she said she was able to follow it easily and there was never a dull moment! (I was worried she'd fall asleep. Her response? "No way! Are you kidding?") She was completely captivated by the movie, as were we all. The theater was so quiet a lot of the time, and the silence was punctuated with raucous cheers and applause at all the right moments. Love viewing the movie with an appreciative crowd.
Well, time for bed... I'm watching it again tomorrow/today with some teachers from school, who, believe it or not, have never read the books! And are just movie fans. Can't wait to hear what they make of it all.

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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Viola on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:59 am

I'm so glad I went to experience the midnight showing. The crowd was fantastic. There were a lot of great costumes. Loving my Harry Potter 3D glasses even though we didn't see it in 3D.

Can't wait to see it again.



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There was only one thing that I really wished was in the movie: Harry fixing his wand with the Elder wand. Other than that, I was extremely please with the film. It is my favorite film by far.
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  freshwater on Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:26 am

I saw DH pt. 2 last night with a friend....and a theater-full of HP friends! The enthusiasm was palpable...in the energy of the kids and 'tweens and young adults and actuall adults all running around pre-movie (the theater actually allowed seating beginning @ 10:00!)....in the smattering of costumes (mostly Gryffindor ties w/white shirts, wands and a few hats)...in the groans that met each new movie preview 15 - 20 min. after midnight....in the cheers that met the first scene of the movie.

Given some random rowdiness during the 90 min. I sat waiting for the start of the movie, I was a bit afraid that the audience might be a bit loud during the movie (I wouldn't have minded so much, but I thought my friend would), but from the moment the first eerie scene began to unfurl, a focused silence was the rule of the day. Except for a few instances
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a burst of laughter was the response to LV's laughing....a cheer for Molly cursing at Bella....the moment Neville struck at Nagini
....there were no outbursts from the audience.

I want to go back tonight for a 2nd viewing....I'll see the 3-D version this time because I MUST HAVE a pair of the 3-D glasses shaped like Harry's!!!...but here are a few initial impressions: (hope this spoiler code works!)
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1) I agree that Harry's finishing with the Elder wand without first repairing his own holly wand really ticked me off...I think because JKR was sooooo good about tying up loose ends and incorporating every detail, that I resent the movie-makers not doing the same.....2) the scene where Harry drags LV over the "cliff" is just stupid: LV can fly (Hellooooo!) and the swooping and falling and weird face-morphing is just bizarre and adds nothing to the story or the battle.....3) there was a moment where I feared Hermione would be the one to kill Nagini, but we dodged that bullet, er, hex, whatever....4) Harry and Ginny's greeting/reactions in the RoR is so insipid that is would have been better to have left it out completely....5) we don't "see" Fred's death or George's reaction, those characters deserved the scene-time and we fans deserved to experience that loss more directly....6) I liked McG's funny comment to Molly, after activating the schools statues, but I missed her yell of anger/grief at the sight of Harry's body (that was given to Ginny....she had little enough to do in the rest of the film)....7) the scene of the morning after the battle was too somber: I read an interview where one of the major movie-guys (I forget which one) stated "no one won this war". Hmph! Yeah, yeah, war is hell, blah, blah, blah. The truth is that a major struggle against evil was successful, and even though things of great value often exact terrible prices, they remain valuable and worthy of being celebrated.

Will try to offer something more coherent after my second viewing. Must dash off to take my son to driver's ed. **crossing my fingers for the spoiler code!!**


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No spoiler boxes??

Post  journeymom on Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:09 pm

Ahhhh! I can't see the spoilers! Don't know why. I'm clicking on the box, double-clicking, click and drag -nothing. It's bizarre.

How long do we need to use spoiler boxes anyway? Could it just be assumed that this particular thread is full of juicy information that might spoil your viewing experience and if you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this thread?

The movie was EXCELLENT! Looking forward to seeing it again, this time not crammed into a corner close to the screen. The movie image was actually warped, and I came out of there with a sore neck.

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Post  journeymom on Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:12 pm

OK, now the spoiler boxes opened for me. scratch

I agree, it was great to watch the movie with an appreciative audience.
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Thom Matheson on Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:31 pm

With my aptitude for all things electronic, yeah right, I won't even attempt to throw a spoiler in but.......Well let's leave it at but. Without ofering a solution, it's not fair to be critical, and I see no other solutions. I suspect it has to be because we are done. As in over, as in done, as there is no more. I'll wait for all of you to catch up.
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Verity Weasley on Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:59 pm

I'm not quite sure what to make of your cryptic post, Thom, but I've just got back from seeing the movie. We went for an afternoon show, hoping it would be quiet since most kids would still be in school, and it was pretty good. We got good seats (ouch Journeymom!) and after sitting through some awful trailers, the movie began. On the whole, I thought it was fantastic. I really enjoyed it. It was very satisfying. Some random thoughts:

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I was surprised by how quickly the trio were breaking into Gringotts. There was no time for any talking. In fact, the whole thing went at a lightning pace and gave the impression that the whole thing happened in just a couple of days. Harry even referred to when he disarmed Draco as being 'the other day'.

Loved the Hermione and Ron kiss. Finally! I also enjoyed the humour when Ginny welcomed Harry back but ignored Ron. I was never convinced by the Harry/Ginny relationship but the moment of humour was welcome.

Loved everything that Neville did. I was getting worried that they weren't going to give him his moment of glory, and I would have preferred to see Neville kill Nagini in front of LV and the rest of the crowd, but at least he still got to do it.

Neville / Luna - Why?

What happened to Goyle? Or was it Crabbe?

I was also disappointed that we didn't get to see Fred's death. As upsetting as it was, seeing his body and the aftermath, I would've liked the death scene included.

Snape - I'm not sure what to think. It was amazing, but I'm not sure it was enough. The memories were so fleeting and lots were missed out. My (non-HP-reading) hubby thought they were trying to suggest that Snape was Harry's father! That's the Star Wars influence for you!

I agree that the tumble off the tower with Harry and LV was a little pointless. I would much rather have seen their confrontation as it was in the book, with calm Harry explaining everything to Tom Riddle in front of everyone, including the fact that Snape was really Dumbledore's man through and through.

I agree about the wand. Harry should have repaired his own wand first. I'm assuming he did that off-screen! I guess movie goers might not remember Harry's wand breaking in part one, so they probably felt it wasn't needed. But snapping it? Really? An unbeatable wand could be broken so easily? Harry should have returned it to Dumbledore's grave.

I liked how the Malfoys were portrayed - especially the scene where they are shown leaving.

That's all for now, but I'm sure I'll think of more.

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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Solitaire on Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:05 pm

I didn't see the movie, but I looked in the spoiler boxes anyway ... except Verity's (I couldn't get it open, possibly because I was in "preview" mode). It isn't like I don't know how the story ends. Some of the things mentioned bug me. For example ...
Spoiler:
... Harry not repairing his broken wand with the Elder Wand. That is a critical moment in the story, because it says volumes about Harry's understanding of the overall scheme of things as well as the true nature of his character.

... one of McGonagall's character moments being given to Ginny. (The scream?) It says a lot about McGonagall's long-term devotion to Harry--as well as her trust in him and her faith in things Dumbledore has told her--that is not directly shown, and readers deserved to see it as written. I wonder, though, if McGonagall's role was "written down" due to her battle with breast cancer at the time HBP ad DH1 were being shot. Perhaps there was some uncertainty about whether or not she would be able to do much at the time things were written? Just a thought ...

... The inclusion of scenes that apparently did not even happen. When so many juicy or "monumental" scenes (such as Fred's death) are omitted due to lack of time, why add stuff that didn't even happen? I'll NEVER understand that kind of thinking, and it really angers me when good scenes are omitted to make room for nonsense that didn't even exist in the books.

Okay, rant over ... and I didn't even see the movie yet! LOL
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Post  Ludicrous Patents Office on Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:43 pm

I really enjoyed the movie. The audience was appreciative. There are some things, as stated above, that I didn't agree with. I loved McG. role in it. I'm going on Monday to see the 3D version. LPO
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Post  journeymom on Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:33 pm

This is unspecific enough, I think I can quote this without the spoiler box,

"When so many juicy or "monumental" scenes ... are omitted due to lack of time, why add stuff that didn't even happen? I'll NEVER understand that kind of thinking, and it really angers me when good scenes are omitted to make room for nonsense that didn't even exist in the books."

Well said, Solitaire, and I agree completely.

Verity, the actor who played Crabbe or Goyle, don't remember which, was arrested for possession of marijuana. So I guess he was expelled from Hogwarts.
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Thom Matheson on Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:08 pm

Verity, I just don't know how to do the spoiler thing. But Soli and you have it about right. McGonnegel had the best line, about want to always try that spell.

I did enjoy the film, don't get me wrong, but when it was broken into two parts to "get it all", well, I wanted it all. After 10 years, I wanted to have a better taste in my mouth, not just an ok taste.
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Post  journeymom on Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:15 pm

Thom, I totally get that.
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Re: Deathy Hallows Part II

Post  Potteraholic on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:35 pm

Had to take a nap this afternoon after getting home and seeing the movie for the 2nd time this morning... a matinee attended by not one, but two large day camp groups of about 100-120 kids all told, amongst whom was one of my former students, a soon-to-be 7th grader. Needless to say, he was shocked to see 4 teachers from his alma mater watching HP7II in the same theater as he was! Thankfully, all the pre-movie acceptable-volume noisy kiddlers heeded the call of all the "SHUSHES" from the adult minority in the audience, and a pleasant movie experience was had by all.

In addition to agreeing with most of what was said already, here are some other thoughts, in no particular order...

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1) In the scene before the battle, with Fred and George, it looks like George is trying to calm Fred down, whose especially nervous, or the more nervous of the two. That didn't feel right to me. Wasn't Fred always portrayed as the more cocky or confident of the two? This line from DH, "... and Fred's eyes stared without seeing, the ghost of his last laugh still etched upon his face" made me think that Fred would have not been as anxious as he was portrayed before the battle again. I think it would have been more poignant, and true to the book, if Fred was shown as the more confident of the two in that scene, but then, shockingly, the one to die.
2) Understood why Kreacher wasn't there — too much back story to explain, not enough time — but I missed his and the other elves' big battle moment.
3) Fenrir over Lavender's body... *** S H U D D E R ***
4) L O V E D Matt Lewis on the bridge trash-talking the Vampires/Snatchers.
5) Helena B-C with Emma's facial expressions and physical gestures... GREAT!
6) Loved Dame Maggie and Julie Walter's big scenes. All the day campers were SHOCKED by Molly's words, gasping/giggling VERY loudly, then cheering!
7) Loved Filch's entrance and him sweeping that pile of rubble over and over... poor guy.
8 ) Thought Epilogue Ginny's hair was a bit dated/frumpy looking. Emma's bun was elegant... poor Bonnie!
9) Poor Charlie, the forgotten Weasley!
10) The hug Voldemort gave Draco... affraid pale
11) Some baddies-approaching-Hogwarts scenes and some of the battle ones, too, reminded me briefly of LOTR, just in sweep/scope. Thankfully, music was very different.
12) The stone knights that McGonagall brought to life... looked AWESOME!
13) Chuckled when Colin Creevey, or whoever he was, who operated the radio, was asked to announce Harry's presence... "Lightning has struck!"
14) Young Lily and Young James, cute kids, but... she had BROWN eyes, not even BLUE like Dan's, and James had no glasses? Come on, people! They couldn't CGI her eyes from brown to blue? (Never mind them being green... hehe) Exactly HOW were Harry's eyes like his mother's? In that they opened and closed? And non-prescription glasses couldn't be made for Young James?

That's all I can remember for now... am sure will have other thoughts later. But I still thought the overall movie was very well-done. Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven

Think my 3rd (and final) viewing will be with 3D, and maybe even IMAX 3D.


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Post  Betelgeuse Black on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:36 pm

Well, I'm back now from seeing the movie in 2D. Good audience except one foolish couple that brought a 2 month old baby. Mrs. Betelgeuse (I'll start calling her Spica) really liked the movie.

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I liked the movie overall. It helped that I didn't read the book just before seeing it. I saw part 1 last weekend so that was fresher in my mind. I didn't like the loss of the Dumbledore back story but I can see where it was necessary to leave it out. Most people would not get it without too much film used in tedious explanations.

The Gringotts stuff with the dragon worked for me. I know they left a lot of detail out but it was still fun. I don't like that Hermione thought to jump on the dragon, not Harry. The movie people keep doing odd things that violate the the tendencies of the characters in the books.

I thought the final battle with Harry and Voldie was a bit weird. I guess they wanted to drag it out and make it more dramatic. They still should have done it in front of both armies. Maybe it's harder to do all the effects with live people in it?

I wished that the reinforcements led by Slughorn and Charlie Weasley were left in. It would have been nice to have the Slytherin redemption that way. I did like Hermione stabbing the cup being put in the movie. I think it worked pretty well with the kiss right afterwards.

I thought Snape's death was creepier with the view from behind the glass. Imagination is worse that being shown it. I really loved Alan Rickman's acting. I knew that he was really good. It seems such a waste to have a great character and actor and not use them. The idea of the memory being in Snape's tears was appropriate, in my humble opinion.

Well, more later I suppose.
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Post  journeymom on Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:20 pm

Potteraholic, I totally noticed your #11 there, too!
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Post  Thom Matheson on Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Potterholic, was #8 meant to mimic Molly?
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Post  D.W. on Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:04 pm

Overall I liked the movie but I do agree with most of the comments too.
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Post  Choices on Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:05 pm

Both my daughters went to see the movie today and both pronounced it.....

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Fantastic!
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Post  Denise P. on Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:28 am

Overall, I liked it. I was glad that:

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we got to see James, Lily, Sirius and Remus at the end. ::::sniffle::::

I was not so glad to see:

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that we never got to see the tribute by the Headmaster portraits. When Harry gets that ovation, I just choke up big time.

I will be seeing it again before the weekend ends and then Mr. Denise and I will meet up with Loopy Lupin on Tuesday to go see it. Mr. Denise and I will also go see it in the IMAX at some point.

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