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Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Denise P. Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:39 pm
I am not sure why this is considered a Christmas special since it only mentions Christmas at the very beginning. Probably because it aired around Christmas.
In any event, this is NOT a stand alone episode and advances the plots already introduced in the regular season.
In any event, this is NOT a stand alone episode and advances the plots already introduced in the regular season.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Solitaire Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:42 pm
I guess we will see what happens tonight ... although I am DVR-ing it. I will probably watch tomorrow. I'm not sure I can keep my eyes open all the way tonight. I plan to take a Claritin-D, which should put me to sleep. But I can't wait to see what happens with poor Bates and Anna. They are my favorite couple of the series.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Mrs. Sirius Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:20 pm
Yes this did seem to advance the plot to every storyline. It was very satisfying in that main plot line, without closing of possible developments.
I have missed at least one episode in the first season and pockets of time in the second season, so how closely related are the Crawleys? Matthew calls Violet Crawley, cousin. Is his mother sister in law to Violet? or are they cousins further back?
I missed the first hour of this episode, but in the previews there was a scene of them pulling Christmas crackers at the dinning table. Buy the middle of the episode they were doing the staff ball. In that last scene where Mary is standing out in the snow, it looked very pretty. My husband came in the room and complained of the snow swirling around but not settling down, snow swirls a bit but falls down. In the documentary after they said this episode was shot in July.
I have missed at least one episode in the first season and pockets of time in the second season, so how closely related are the Crawleys? Matthew calls Violet Crawley, cousin. Is his mother sister in law to Violet? or are they cousins further back?
I missed the first hour of this episode, but in the previews there was a scene of them pulling Christmas crackers at the dinning table. Buy the middle of the episode they were doing the staff ball. In that last scene where Mary is standing out in the snow, it looked very pretty. My husband came in the room and complained of the snow swirling around but not settling down, snow swirls a bit but falls down. In the documentary after they said this episode was shot in July.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Marie E. Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:56 pm
I was kind of looking forward to scenes of Mary in America for season three, but I guess that won't happen. I hope someone lets Edith finally date. What do you think they'll do with the Bates storyline? Will they find him innocent at the end of the next season for a dramatic finale?
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Solitaire Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:37 pm
You never know, Marie ...
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- maybe Matthew and Mary will honeymoon in America! Poor Edith! Sadly, she brought a lot of her own misery on herself when she decided to rat out Mary for the "Turk incident." She was not too far-thinking in that situation, was she? I don't think she has realized yet that when it becomes widely known, the disgrace is going to comprehend the entire family, including herself. She herself will suffer by association, unless she meets someone who loves her enough to put it all aside.
I hated what Mary did to Edith at the garden party ... but really, she should have known her sister better than that. I think everything that has touched Mary's life since she played that rotten trick has given her a compassion she did not possess in the beginning. Falling in love with Matthew has transformed her character from a cold, calculating woman to one who is actually willing and able to think of others. I think Edith is better, too, after being noticed and commended for her exertions with the wounded men. (Perhaps she will get a chance with that officer who toasted her that night.) I worry, though, that this guy who claims to be real Crawley heir (the one with the bandaged face) is not really gone ... but just out of the frame for the moment. If that's true, I think it is Edith who will get hurt by him. What I couldn't understand is why wouldn't they have recognized his voice?
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
shepherdess Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:22 am
Yes; both Mary and Edith have grown up a lot. And I agree with the reasons you stated. But I also think eight years of life experiences would contribute to that--especially when those years include such a close proximity to war and all it's influences. One of those influences might have been helping the girls realize the things that are most important in life, like family and life itself.
What I couldn't understand is why wouldn't they have recognized his voice?
I seem to remember when they were walking home from the memorial service for the cousin, and Edith was admonishing Mary for not crying, Mary saying something to the effect that she didn't really know him; just had some childhood memories of playing together when he visited, or something like that. Or I may be confused. lol.
What I couldn't understand is why wouldn't they have recognized his voice?
I seem to remember when they were walking home from the memorial service for the cousin, and Edith was admonishing Mary for not crying, Mary saying something to the effect that she didn't really know him; just had some childhood memories of playing together when he visited, or something like that. Or I may be confused. lol.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Solitaire Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:39 pm
You may be right, Shepherdess. I may have missed part of the first episode ... I seem to remember doing so. I do vaguely remember that Edith seemed more upset by the passing of Mary's fiance than Mary did. I didn't much care for Mary in the first several episodes.
Edit: Anyway, I still think the "pretender" is just that--an opportunist who is making use of information that fell into his possession.
Edit: Anyway, I still think the "pretender" is just that--an opportunist who is making use of information that fell into his possession.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
freshwater Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:49 pm
Mrs. Sirius, tell your husband that I had the same thought about the snow....I finally decided that it had been added digitally, during the editing process, to lend romance.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Solitaire Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:06 pm
Well ... it was Christmas, right? What's Christmas in England without snow? Many of us who spend our Christmases in shorts and flip-flops often think Christmas would be a bit more "Christmassy" if we had snow ... especially if it fell on Christmas Eve. 
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
shepherdess Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:38 pm
The scene was beautiful, in an ethereal kind of way, with snow that sort of 'floated' instead of simply falling to the ground. But what bothered me the most was that Mary was standing out in the snow wearing a sleeveless gown and didn't seem chilled at all. Of course if it was filmed in July, she wouldn't have been cold. But after all, she's an actress, she should at least have acted cold.
And Mary wasn't the only woman who was wearing sleeveless gowns for Christmas. Really? in December, in England, when it's cold enough to snow, in a huge house like that that must be difficult to keep warm? I wonder how realistic that was.
And Mary wasn't the only woman who was wearing sleeveless gowns for Christmas. Really? in December, in England, when it's cold enough to snow, in a huge house like that that must be difficult to keep warm? I wonder how realistic that was.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
freshwater Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:55 pm
I thought it was odd that Mary was standing outside in the snow, in a sleeveless dress, and Matthew didn't offer her his coat.
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
shepherdess Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:58 pm
That too. (Of course he knew she wasn't really freezing. 
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Re: Downton Abbey: Christmas Special
Mrs. Sirius Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:12 am
Chivery wasn't dead yet in 1920ish! However the British Aristocrisy is suppose to be very hary.
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