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Good Evans - Sep 22, 2005 12:59 pm (#601 of 2980)

Cheddar and Swiss - LOL - seriously?????

I came across a couple of good ones a few years ago, we had the traffic light family, Scarlett, Amber and Jade and a chap who changed his name to Clint Eastwood and his two boys were called John and Wayne. I kid you not, I know they sound like urban legends but I swear they are true. In my job people have to put family details on applications you see, I have seen some very odd spellings too.


Denise P. - Sep 22, 2005 1:15 pm (#602 of 2980)

They really were named Swiss and Cheddar. Swiss was a year ahead of me, Cheddar was 2 behind me. I have the yearbook to prove it too. I know they had a brother, not sure if he was older or younger but since he was not in the school, I have no idea what his name was. Monterey Jack, Colby?


Finn BV - Sep 22, 2005 2:26 pm (#603 of 2980)

Hey guys, quick in and out trip here.

The giant squid- Sep 22, 2005 1:46 am (#586 of 602) . . . . You have no idea, my friend...let's just say I firmly believe it should be illegal to get up before noon.

I rest my case.

Loopy, spoke to the guidance counselor today and I agree now that it's best that I not take the part. As I said, I'm barely managing to get everything done – piano practice, tennis, homework, forum. I'm not going to take it but I will try to be in the spring play…  We'll see.

Kate, cool smilie!

I can't say much because my computer is at school. My laptop has some weird thing goin' on inside of it. It freezes 15 times a day, applications quit all the time, and it seems unusually low on Hard Drive space. And the apple key fell out, but I still have it. The incredible computer department at my school is fixing it as we speak, and to put the key back on "takes about 2 seconds." So that will be fixed when I get back to school tomorrow morning! I'm so excited!!

See y'all later… rushing to do too much stuff!


Catherine - Sep 22, 2005 2:38 pm (#604 of 2980)

I have no idea what his name was. Monterey Jack, Colby? –Denise

SPEW! That was a good one, Denise. I'd vote for one of those versus Feta or Gouda.

I am so jealous of my students! They are putting on a production of School House Rock for the school play, and I want a part, too! :pouts:

School House Rock just makes me nostalgic for the Saturday mornings of watching cartoons in my pajamas. Besides, I want a part doing the grammar songs!

Too bad I can't sing, alas earwax, and am about 20 years to old to participate.


Lina - Sep 22, 2005 3:03 pm (#605 of 2980)

Finn, are you saying that your Mac is acting weirdly??? Well, you can't rely on anything nowdays, can you? My husband had a similar problem with his Win computer (but you would expect it, wouldn't you?) and I found something like 6 GB of strange stuff accumulating. Everything went back to normal when I removed some "bar" that he very consciously installed.

There is a saying in my country "The youth of today!" Now Kate is learning at school that old people from Mesopotamia had the same saying something like 4 or 5 thousands years ago. I have invented the new world order: There should be no more elections. The politicians that want to be presidents or in the parliament or things like that, should go to the chess tournament. And the winners get the job. When some country wants to make war with some other country, the presidents should play chess and the one that looses should accept the terms of the winner. Actually, I am not the chess player at all, but then, politics was never in my career plans.

Kaykay, now I have to say
(wow, I must be in a very good mood after the whole day that I was at the edge of the nervous breakdown)
My name is Paula too. And Lina comes from Paulina, so everybody really calls me Lina. So it was just fun for me to read about your name, especially about how thankful you are that your name is not Pauline. My husband's name is just the mail version of the same name. Speaking about names, I have a friend whose dog's name is Rea and I know a guy whose daughter's name is Rea too. Actually, I know several dogs with the same name.

Well, enough of good mood. Some drying and sunny charms to those on the Rita's path. I can't believe it's happening.

Love and peace to everybody!


kaykay1970 - Sep 22, 2005 5:35 pm (#606 of 2980)

Actually Lina. I like your name Paulina it is vey pretty, but Oleta Paulette I don't believe I could have endured. I have a cousin named Pauliana, also for my grandmother. My oldest sister got spared from a far worse name than me. Dad wanted to name her after his two favorite aunts. Marie I think is lovely but not Flossie Marie. haha Mom named her Pamela Jean for my grandfather Gene.


I Am Used Vlad - Sep 22, 2005 6:46 pm (#607 of 2980)

This is not exactly a weird name story but sort of fits in. I work for the post office, and once saw a letter addressed to a Mrs. James Potter. The funny thing was that it was being returned to the sender due to insufficient address. I assumed it was the Fidelius Charm.


Madam Pince - Sep 22, 2005 7:04 pm (#608 of 2980)

LOL! That's great, Vlad! Good to know those charms are still in place!

I got most of the mums and asters planted today. Actually I think I need to go get some more. I always do this -- when you buy the plants it looks like the car is full and you have so many plants, but then when you get them in the ground they look kind of sparse and you have to go get some more to fill in. I need mulch, too, to hold in what little moisture we have. We haven't had rain in weeks. Earlier this week I had thought it was going to start raining (I think I even posted that it was) but it turned out that I could count the number of drops that actually fell. Soon I can start planting cactus and they'll be thriving, I guess! Mike, what do you guys grow out there in the desert?


Thora - Sep 23, 2005 6:20 am (#609 of 2980)

Well I'm not Mike, but in the desert everyone waters all the time. In fact I knew a lot of people who irrigated their lawns, with canal water from the Colorado. The plants that seemed to be in abundance (besides the varried types of cactus) are citrus trees, evergreen shrubs, palm trees. There is a lovely bushy flowering tree that I don't know the name of and it survived without watering quite well.

I had friends with a date farm, but that was irrigated, sa was the califlower field I rode by each day on my way to school.

Man I miss the desert.



CatherineHermiona - Sep 23, 2005 6:28 am (#610 of 2980)

I finally can say:


Soul Mate for Sirius - Sep 23, 2005 8:27 am (#611 of 2980)

Good morning everyone! I don't have too much time before I have to go to class, but I figured I'd stop in and say hi. I hate having class on Friday! Anyway, things are still really really busy around here. I started classes on Wednesday, and I already have 1500 pages of reading to do by next Tuesday! Talk about being stressed. I have 3 quizes and 2 essays to write on top of that. Plus, OSU's playing Iowa tomorrow, so that's going to take up most of my Saturday. Ah well. I'll just have to spend all of Sunday locked in my room reading.

I must say I got a good laugh reading everyone's comments on weird names. It certainly made catching up on my posts quite enjoyable!

Well anyway, I have to run to my French class, so, au revoir!



Good Evans - Sep 23, 2005 8:36 am (#612 of 2980)

Kate,I couldn't have put it better .... its been a long week!!



Ydnam96 - Sep 23, 2005 9:00 am (#613 of 2980)

Yes Kate, thank goodness it's Friday. All day yesterday felt like it should be Friday...but nope...still one more day to go. It has been a long week.

I caught the end of a Simpson's episode last night and it was a Harry Potter parody. I think it was in a Halloween episode. But it was pretty funny (and I don't like the Simpsons).

Have a good Friday everyone...


azi - Sep 23, 2005 10:08 am (#614 of 2980)

Okies, I just read 190+ posts, so forgive me if I miss someone. Also forgive bad grammar as I'm on a laptop I've never used before...

Congrats, Puck! A lovely name for your daughter!

I can't believe I missed Talk Like A Pirate Day. I hate not having constant internet access.

Good luck to Timrews son and daughter-in-law! I like the idea of the music Tim's band plays as well, seeing as though I used to go to folk dancing class.

Hope everyone gets away from hurricane Rita.

I'm in Liverpool at the moment, it's chucking it down with rain and I'm in a friend’s student accomodation, which isn't exactly nice. However, it's a lot better than what mine is according to the pictures I just found. Bleugh, I appear to be in the noisiest building which apparently boasts the only all day bar on campus. Great - I hate alcohol and drunk people. Excellent place to put me ain't it? Not looking forward to freshers week!

Everyone have a great Friday! I am also glad it's the end of the week, has been very slow.


The giant squid - Sep 23, 2005 12:54 pm (#615 of 2980)

Mike, what do you guys grow out there in the desert?--Madame Pince

Personally, I raise hopes until they're big enough to fend for themselves. Seriously, Thora had it right; lots of palm trees, every variety of cactus you can think of (and a few you hadn't), and--thanks to the ever-growing population of SoCal transplants--the occasional green lawn. Sprinkler companies do quite a bit of business out here. Without a rather aggressive watering schedule the only things that grow well are weeds. Of course, since we're in the middle of a massive drought right now (what? drought? in the desert?? ) the water company places heavy restrictions on watering and even offers rebates on your bill if you use certain low-water plants in your landscape.

Finn--I usually go to bed around 4 AM. I do more thinking after midnight than most people do all day. Carpe noctem!



Good Evans - Sep 23, 2005 2:15 pm (#616 of 2980)

Cheering charms to you Azi, theres always this forum if it gets on top of you


Amilia Smith - Sep 23, 2005 3:09 pm (#617 of 2980)

Without a rather aggressive watering schedule the only things that grow well are weeds.

And rocks. Rocks do real well.



wynnleaf - Sep 23, 2005 3:44 pm (#618 of 2980)

Does Round Pink Spider ever get on here? I wanted to ask her something.


timrew - Sep 23, 2005 4:16 pm (#619 of 2980)

Once again, thanks to all that congratulated me on my son's wedding.

I'm reading about the latest Hurricane to hit New Orleans, and I hear that the levees have been breached again. Is everyone okay?

And how is that log-jam of cars out of Galveston?


boop - Sep 23, 2005 4:56 pm (#620 of 2980)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CAPUT DRACOINS, hope you have had a wonderful day!!!!


Amilia Smith - Sep 23, 2005 5:19 pm (#621 of 2980)

Wynnleaf: RPS does get on here, but I am not sure how often she checks this thread. The last time she posted was Sept 9th. You might have better luck over on the "Long Theory About Harry's Family" thread.



Finn BV - Sep 23, 2005 5:34 pm (#622 of 2980)

Happy Birthday, Caput Draconis, have a great day!

Well, my computer's running on Tiger, the key is back in (***presses Command key bazillion times***), and…… the computer is still freezing. Yes, Lina, I know, you can't trust anything in the world today, even a Mac! Apparently Apple will replace my computer if I replace the LogicBoard 3 times if the state doesn't improve. It's already been replaced once. How I dream of those next two times.

Well, at least it's a lot faster. Sorry, didn't keep up with this thread in my slight absence, so cheering and wellness, etc. charms all around!!


TwinklingBlueEyes - Sep 23, 2005 6:16 pm (#623 of 2980)

Just checking in here from a storm battered south Louisiana. So far so good, winds blowing about 40 mph, gusting to about 70. Lost electric and cable a couple of times, but came back on. Some road closures due to flooding. Daughter just called, they have lost power. Looks like going to be a LONG nite. Will be online as long as possible. Our prayers are with all those in the way of this storm.

...toddles off to the threads...

Edit: ...toddles off to find flashlight, power went off two minutes after first posting this...


Marie E. - Sep 23, 2005 6:31 pm (#624 of 2980)

I know I'm a bit late on this, but here's some names for you all: sisters named Crimson and Burgundy, sisters named Rainne and Brooke, Cannon, Shade, Temple, and Nevaeh (heaven backwards, very popular here last year). I'm always amazed that Shayla is more common than I thought. I have met at least six other Shayla's just here in Colorado Springs. Mary Lou Retton named one of her children Shayla, as did the syndicated radio personality Delilah (massive misspelling, I know!). We have a cousin who named her son Nash, which I had never heard, then I met two more Nash's here. I doubt Cobain will ever experience such popularity.

I can't believe the horrible luck of those poor people in the Gulf, especially those who were evacuated to Houston, just to be evacuated once again. My thoughts are with all those in the storm's path.


Finn BV - Sep 23, 2005 7:05 pm (#625 of 2980)

Just been watching coverage of Hurricane Rita… wow. My thoughts are with you all. The poor Katrina victims that are now evacuating Houston… what a harsh life. Prayers.


Elanor - Sep 23, 2005 10:58 pm (#626 of 2980)

TBE, I'm thinking a lot of you! Take care! ((((((((((hugs))))))))))))
My thoughts and prayers also go to everyone on Rita's path, this is so scary.

Happy belated birthday Caput Draconis! And since it is already the 24th here, happy birthday Timrew!

Hem, hem...

Hail! King of SPEW!
A good pun is your grail,
And you never fail.
Happy birthday Timrew!
To you, all the best
In that never-ending quest.

Ok, ok, I know I shouldn't try to write rhymes in English before 8 am but I do wish you a very, very happy birthday! Thank you for our past, and future, bursts of laughter on the forum you're responsible for.

Detail Seeker, I'm so sorry, in my last post, I forgot to thank you for your kind words! Yes, deciphering old writing in 17th or 18th documents is really fascinating. With a bit of practice, it is not difficult. Very often, only by seeing the writing you can figure out some details about the one who wrote the document, even before reading it: if he/she was used to write, if the spelling is correct or very "personal", if the writing is easy or seems to have been difficult for the writer, etc... It is really great!

Edit: I almost forgot! Welcome on the forum Pixie! It is great to find another French fan here!


azi - Sep 24, 2005 1:46 am (#627 of 2980)

Thanks Good Evans! Cheering charms do the world of good! If they fail, I'm turning to copious amounts of chocolate. And the forum of course! It wasn't actually that bad last night, compared to another friend who has had fire alarms every night for the past week...eek!

Happy birthdays (or belated birthdays) to Caput Draconis and Timrew!

Elanor, I love your avatar!

Welcome to Pixie also! Strasbourg is one of my favourite places - so pretty!


The giant squid - Sep 24, 2005 1:58 am (#628 of 2980)

Happy Birthday, Tim. I'll let Elanor's poem speak for me, because even at 8AM (her time) she writes better than I do at 2AM my time.

Marie, Alexis is a rather popular name, too. Especially here in Vegas--you hear it all the time at, um, certain adult establishments... Or so I've heard...

Best of luck to TBE and everyone else in Rita's path.



Wisey - Sep 24, 2005 2:22 am (#629 of 2980)

Stay safe to those in Rita's path.

My Aussie Rules Footy Team "Swans" just won their final, first time in 72 years - bit of a drought is over finally.

I'm off to browse the threads.


Chemyst - Sep 24, 2005 5:22 am (#630 of 2980)

It a bit past 8 AM here now, and since the first word I thought of that could rhyme with Timrew was “slough,” I'd best avoid attempting poetry as well.

Happy Birthday Timrew. May your day be free from deep muddy holes, swamps, and spiritual low points. I'll wish you a “slew” of laughter instead.


boop - Sep 24, 2005 6:22 am (#631 of 2980)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TIM AND PRONGS!!!!!!Have a wonderful day!!!

Everyone have a nice weekend.

hugs always



Stephanie M. - Sep 24, 2005 7:31 am (#632 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Timrew!!!!! I wish you many, many more wonderful years of laughter!!

I hope everyone stays safe in the path of Rita!!! I was watching coverage of Rita this morning and it's just unbelievable.

Yesterday I was starting to lose my voice in the morning and once I got home I felt like my head was going to explode. So I decided I would go to sleep really early and I fell asleep around 9:30 PM. (I usually go to sleep around 12 AM.) And I woke up at 10:06 AM, so now I'm feeling a lot better but my voice it still going.

Finn I love your avatar. RENT was one of my favorite musicals. I can't wait until it comes out in theaters (with the original cast!).


Ydnam96 - Sep 24, 2005 7:58 am (#633 of 2980)

Good morning, birthday wishes to Tim and Prongs. (Boop, you are amazing!)

I think I might go back to bed. I don't know why I woke up.


Good Evans - Sep 24, 2005 8:42 am (#634 of 2980)

Happy Birthday to Caput draconis for yesterday, Timrew and Prongs for today, I hope you all have lovely days!!!



mike miller - Sep 24, 2005 9:09 am (#635 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Tim, Prongs, Caput and all those who I have missed. Work is entering the crazy time again, so I'll be more intermitent than usual.

I good friend of mine has recently moved from outside Tulsa, OK (Tornado Alley) to outside of Houston, TX. He was joking with me prior to Rita's arrival about his uncanny ability to choose the best places to live. I have not heard but trust to his judgement about evacuating. It sounds like at least some of the anticipated damage did not occur; however, there is still much rain to fall before this is all over and flooding is a real concern.

All in the Gulf area take care and know that you're in our thoughts and prayers.


TwinklingBlueEyes - Sep 24, 2005 9:56 am (#636 of 2980)

I'm backkk... :-)

Happy Birthday Tim,Caput, and Prongs. Best of luck to those who were hit harder by Hurricane Rita than we were. Still have gusty winds and scattered rain here but the electric is back on!

...toddles off to call family and let them know we are ok...


Good Evans - Sep 24, 2005 10:23 am (#637 of 2980)

pleased to hear it is going ok TBE..our thoughts with other southern states forumers who may be in the path!!


CatherineHermiona - Sep 24, 2005 11:40 am (#638 of 2980)

Happy birthday to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just back from the cinema where I was watching Charlie and Chocolate Factory. That was pretty good film.

My thoughts and prays are with everyone on Rita's path. If it is going to act as Rita that we know from HP, I don't want to be in their skin.



Madame Pomfrey - Sep 24, 2005 1:37 pm (#639 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Timrew,Caput and Prongs.Speaking of Rita,Has anyone heard from T.Weldon?I think she lives in the Houston area.I live 2 1/2 hrs from there.Rita missed us but we sure could have used the rain,Its pretty windy though.Glad to see the storm didn't affect you all too much TBE.


Lina - Sep 24, 2005 1:59 pm (#640 of 2980)

Happy birthdays Caput, Tim and Prongs! I hope you had a wonderful day.

prayers for everybody on the Rita's path! I hope this ends soon.


Finn BV - Sep 24, 2005 2:16 pm (#641 of 2980)

LOL, Elanor. I know you're going to make it as a poet some day.

Happy Birthday, King of Spew and Prongs. Have a fantastic day.

Steph, I haven't seen Rent (which doesn't make any sense) but I can play the theme song "Seasons of Love."

Kate, I liked Charlie very much. It was just too wacky. How did the song lyrics translate into Croatian? Did they rhyme?

My computer's back at the Apple Depot. It will be back in a week. This is depressing.


dizzy lizzy - Sep 24, 2005 2:23 pm (#642 of 2980)

Happy birthdays (or belated birthdays) to Caput Draconis and Timrew and Prongs!

Umm...these new hearing aids took a lot of adjusting to...but now I am happy to have them and they certainly passed their test last week with my workload - they made life sooo much easier!

Rita hasn't made much headway in the news over here...a certain Grand Final match yesterday and its results took up half the news bulletin!

Today I'm off to my Dad's for the day! About 5 hours driving time all up for the entire return trip and the bonus is my brother and his new finance will be there as well.

This post is from another Aussie who is delighted her AFL (Australian Football League) Team - The Sydney Swans (A.K.A the Swannies!) won their grand final **dances**



timrew - Sep 24, 2005 3:20 pm (#643 of 2980)

Thank you to all that wished me a Happy Birthday. With special thanks to Elanor for her poem!

And Birthday wishes to Caput Draconis and Prongs!!!

I hope that everyone is safe from Hurricane Rita. To anyone in its path, my thoughts and prayers go out to you all........


VeronikaG - Sep 24, 2005 4:49 pm (#644 of 2980)

Happy birthday Tim! And Caput and Prongs too!

I'm just stopping by to say that I haven't totally forgotten about you guys and everything HP, I have just been totally busy lately. Since I was smart enough to go back to school for an additional year, and even smarter to make that year English Studies, I have been drowned in reading. But I like reading, so I shouldn't complain. When you first have to read a book that is assigned it's much more interesting to read a classic than "TCP/IP version 5.0" (Which my teacher claimed was a classic, the nerd :-D).

I hope everybody who have rough weather in store will be safe, and I'll check the forum tomorrow. I have a nice, crazy theory on the Weasley family I need to be posting. He he.


Ydnam96 - Sep 24, 2005 5:16 pm (#645 of 2980)

So I'm watching Grease. And for the first time I realized that the actors looked pretty old for high schoolers (I guess when you are younger older is older, haha). I looked the movie up on IMDB and the John Travolta was 24, Oliva Newton John was 30! Stocker Channing (sp?) was in her 30's as well!!!!!! I'm in shock. That would be like me trying to impersonate a high schooler!


Marie E. - Sep 24, 2005 6:14 pm (#646 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Tim, Caput Draconis, and Prongs! Many happy returns!

SquidMike: I know how popular the name Alexis is. In her grade at her school there are two Alexis', one Alexi, and one Lexus. And they ALL go by some form of Lexie/Lexi. It just so happens that Lexie was the only name Mr. E and I could agree on. I wanted to name her Rylie.

I heard from a friend who lives in Houston that she went back to her house despite warnings not to. Everything is in working order: internet, electricity, etc. She has a friend who went on a cruise and parked her car in Galveston. Bye, bye car!


I Am Used Vlad - Sep 24, 2005 6:42 pm (#647 of 2980)

Happy birthday to those celebrating. It's not belated yet where I'm at. Well, I guess it is for Caput.


Stephanie M. - Sep 24, 2005 8:09 pm (#648 of 2980)

Steph, I haven't seen Rent (which doesn't make any sense) but I can play the theme song Seasons of Love." "—Finn[

You can play the theme song... on a piano? Cool! You can play it for me one day because I don't have any musical talent so I can't actually play it for myself. The farthest that I have gotten to actually being OK at an instrument was when my dad taught me how to play Mary Had A Little Lamb (which I actually learned incorrectly!) and I was really good at playing the recorder which I can't figure out now...

RENT is probably one of my all time favorite musicals. I saw it with Frenchie Davis. There once was Frenchie Davis, Drew Lachey (from 98º), Melanie C (from the Spice Girls), Taye Diggs (from How Stella Got Her Groove Back and lots of other things) but he was in the Original Cast but sometimes came back to sub for someone. And Jay Rodriguez (from Queer Eye for the Strait Guy). They were all once in RENT at the same time.

I have another story about my musical skills but it will take too long to type and this will be a very long post.

I hope everyone in the path of Rita is staying safe!!! My thoughts and prayers are with you all!


Ydnam96 - Sep 24, 2005 11:02 pm (#649 of 2980)

Wow, we are having a slow night aren't we? I hope it's because everyone is out having fun!! I think I am getting a cold Sad But it's okay cause I can stay in bed all day tomorrow.

I'm praying for all thoe who are feeling the effects (is that the right one? or is it affects? I can never remember which one to use) of the Hurricanes.


The giant squid - Sep 24, 2005 11:20 pm (#650 of 2980)

RENT was one of my favorite musicals. I can't wait until it comes out in theaters (with the original cast!).--Stephanie M.

Well, not quite the original cast...Rosario Dawson wasn't in the stage version. We've had the trailer for the movie running in our lobby for the last three months; I'm quite aware of the number of minutes in a year now...

(For the benefit of those not subjected to the beginning of "Seasons of Love" every 6 minutes, it's 525,600. )

Mandy, it is "effects". "Affect" is a verb, "effect" is a noun. In other words, if something affects you, you feel the effects of it. See Marie? And you thought I didn't pay attention in English class!

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Herm oh ninny - Sep 24, 2005 11:30 pm (#651 of 2980)

Hey guys! Since school started I have had no time to come and check out the forum. I work full time during the day Mon-Friday, go to school full time at night, and work at the theater on the weekends. I'm getting to the point where I don't know which way is up!!

I know that I am late, but : Happy Birthday Timrew, Caput Draconis, and Prongs! Have a few butter beers on me!

Welcome Baby Puck! A future Potty in the making!

And here are a couple of useful smilies for all of you who are having computer trouble! LOL

I was struggling to stay awake in my climatology class the other night (it runs from 7:50 to 10:30 at night)when the girl sitting across from me waved at me to get my attention. She then pointed to my copy of HBP (I am in the middle of my 3rd re-read of it so I take it everywhere with me) and whispered "I read that already. It was soo good! You won't believe all the stuff that happens in it!" I obviously whispered back "I know, this is the third time I'm reading it!" I had to bite back my smile at the look of astonishment on her face. I guess we all can't be obsessed!


kaykay1970 - Sep 25, 2005 6:53 am (#652 of 2980)

I love those smileys Herm Oh Ninny. My internet is lagging so bad this morning.


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Sep 25, 2005 7:07 am (#653 of 2980)

Happy Birthday's to all who are deserving.  Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 Cake_w10

Big news....We got a cat! Well, really more of a kitten. She's 6 months old and she's da bomb! She's a total lap cat and is the most mild-mannered cat I could ever imagine. She's a combination between a Tabby and a Calico, which the folks at the humane society said was a Torbie. Who knew? She came with the name Sally which I think we'll be keeping and she's got a brother named......Harry. While I'm not much for the movie reference I think I can pretend that he's named for our favorite wizard. He has an eye infection at the moment, but as soon as that's cleared up we'll be going back up north to fetch him home.

****waves vigorously to Catherine who I know is desperate for a few nice cats****


Finn BV - Sep 25, 2005 8:03 am (#654 of 2980)

(For the benefit of those not subjected to the beginning of "Seasons of Love" every 6 minutes, it's 525,600.) --Squid Mike

Poor, poor you.

Herm oh ninny, good to see you around! I need those smileys!

Congrats on the new cat, Kim.

I still haven't had the time for Corpse Bride yet. I'm just dying to see the trailer (and the movie) (no pun intended ).


Ydnam96 - Sep 25, 2005 8:13 am (#655 of 2980)

Lupin is Lupin, that is an amazing cake! Do you have a bigger picture? Those coins...what are they made of? I'm guessing the necklaces are candy ones. I'm so impressed. And yay for the kitties. I wish I could get another so Chloe (my cat) would have some company.

Denise, I had a dream last night that I came to your house. I was supposed to mow your lawn I think...it was wierd (in that I've never been to your house and would have no frame of reference).

I went to bed thinking I might have a cold and I woke up this morning knowing I have one...but I don't have any medicine. I only have allergy medicine...bleh. I don't want to go out so I'm just goona be huddled up in my blanket on the couch.


CatherineHermiona - Sep 25, 2005 8:36 am (#656 of 2980)

We just won against Russia in Davis Cup. We are going to the finale. Ljubièiæ saved us, as usual. Be happy for me, please. Let's celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I wanted to put this for a long time:


Catherine - Sep 25, 2005 10:12 am (#657 of 2980)

****waves vigorously to Catherine who I know is desperate for a few nice cats**** --Lupin is Lupin

Oh, I think you confused me with "She-who-must-not-be named" aka "Veronicamort."

Congratulations on your family's new additions. Those kitties sound great.

Now, I need the Forum's help. I am desperately looking for the words to a children's story that I read as a child, called "Dr. Goat." It started off as "Dr. Goat put on his coat..." I remember something about a mustard plaster and that he fixed a fox with measles, but I can't remember the rest, and it's driving me crazy.

I would really love to get the words to that story, if anyone has a copy. I don't need a copy of the book; I'd just love to know what the text was.


Stephanie M. - Sep 25, 2005 11:34 am (#658 of 2980)

Kim congratulations on the new kitty cats! Sally and Harry... hmm maybe Harry has secret twin sister named Sally... I think it's time for book 7. Maybe you can figure out a nick name for Sally so it won't be like the movie.

Herm Oh Ninny, I really like those computer smileys! I'm not having too many computer problems besides the fact that whenever I spell check something in an E-mail (usually REALLY long e-mails) AOL quits. So now I don't spell check my e-mails and then people E-mail me back saying, "What were you trying to tell me? I don't know what *insert mis-spelled word here* means."

Too bad about the freezing Finn! Maybe you'll get your computer replaced really soon. Well, at least it's faster now.

Ydnam96, I'm sorry you're feeling sick! I first got my cold on Thursday morning but then it went away until around 8 PM that night, and then I felt horrible. I was fine most of Friday except that I was losing my voice. But then Friday night I felt absolutely horrible. Then I slept 12 and 1/2 hours and then I felt a lot better. Yesterday I still had a cough and my voice sometimes cracked and I sounded like I had my tonsils removed. But today I sound much more pleasant and I'm coughing a lot less and I CAN BREATHE!!!

So you'll probably feel better tomorrow if you get a lot of sleep.

Okay, I'm off to check the threads and do my homework.


Finn BV - Sep 25, 2005 12:08 pm (#659 of 2980)

Oops, wrote "cat," meant "cats." I'm sure you understood anyway.

Yay Kate! I wish they would televise more Davis Cup over here. I only read about it in my Tennis Magazines. Oh well. Good luck in the finals.


Ydnam96 - Sep 25, 2005 12:30 pm (#660 of 2980)

Stephanie, I did just sleep for a few hours. I don't have plans today other than doing some laundry so I'm gonna try your sleeping advice Smile


Madam Pince - Sep 25, 2005 12:35 pm (#661 of 2980)

Yep, school has started, and so here come the head colds, and viruses, and epizootics, and whatever else....

Happy Birthday to Caput Draconis, Prongs, and timrew! May you enjoy this one and many, many more!


Finn BV - Sep 25, 2005 1:45 pm (#662 of 2980)

Ok, this is a little random, but I was reading my science textbook and there is a sentence that reads this: "Astronomers have proposed building the OWL telescope (overwhelmingly large telescope) with a mirror 100m in diameter…"

And I thought, that's almost as good as Nastily Exhausting Wizarding Tests, and that's one step up from the OWLs! Well, I had to make the connection…

**toddles off and knows how TBE feels**


Stephanie M. - Sep 25, 2005 3:10 pm (#663 of 2980)

I think you are ahead of us in science Finn. I never got to that part. And we also haven't done anything with telescopes.

But I was reading in my history reader (bookish kind of thing) stuff about this God with serpents and I kept thinking about Nagini and Voldemort and how he could control snakes and serpents and in the reader this God was able to control its serpents, but this God created the World and stuff instead of trying to take over it... hmmm. Maybe Voldemort will become a good guy... nah I doubt it.


pottermom34 - Sep 25, 2005 3:14 pm (#664 of 2980)

Happy Birthday to Caput Draconis, Prongs, and timrew! My daughter's birthday was yesturday too. She got a Happy Birthday owl from JKR. I signed her up for it at the bloombury website. She was tickled to get it. And she got a Slytherin robe for her birthday so she can be a Slytherin for Halloween. The funny thing is she said "but mom I'm not a boy, I can't be Draco." I told her there are girl Slytherins too. That made her more excited.

Catherine that book almost sounds like a Dr. Suess book, I don't know if it is, nor do I recognize it but it sounds like the way some of his books start. Good Luck finding it.

Reparo charms to your computer Finn. I hate when mine acts up it's a pain in the arse.
Off to check threads michelle


Denise P. - Sep 25, 2005 4:48 pm (#665 of 2980)

I did a search, Dr. Goat is from the 50's and a lot of people are hunting it. ABE has a copy for $75 and two are currently on eBay.

I like your avatar, pottermom!

The Extreme Makeover Home Edition that was filmed here back in June is airing tonight. The infamous $50,000 fish tank will be seen.


Finn BV - Sep 25, 2005 6:21 pm (#666 of 2980)

No, Steph, we were doing something in the back of the book and I happened to catch a glimpse of that. I don't we do telescopes in 8th grade.

Thanks pottermom. I'm on my dad's computer, which is also running on Tiger, but I don't have any of my stuff. It should be back from Depot in about a week.

Wow, Denise, I actually remember that fish tank story! I think I missed the show, though. (Not that I watch it anyway, but… ) I'd still be interested to know how it went! On a slightly unrelated note, two of my teachers once put their names down to go on Trading Spaces but I don't think they got in… Wow, a random story worthy of Steph's telling.

Good night all.


Stephanie M. - Sep 25, 2005 8:32 pm (#667 of 2980)

Finn, that story you just told did kind of sound like my randomness... Which 2 teachers? Hmm this might get very interesting...

I saw Extreme Makeover Home Edition! I was thinking the entire time, "This must be the fish tank Denise was talking about!!!" And it was on the 2 hour season premiere!

Finn your computer is at Depot... the Home Depot? I love that place!!!

I'm off to do about 10 mins of Spanish Geography review so it can stick better over night. I have already memorized all of the countries and capitals of those countries and what the people from those countries are called (i.e. The people from México are called Mexicano(a)). I just have to memorize where all of these countries are located in comparison to each other.


The giant squid - Sep 26, 2005 12:53 am (#668 of 2980)

Egad, I'm slipping...I've been trying to think of something astronomical that I can abbreviate to NEWT to go with Finn's OWL telescope, and I'm drawing a complete blank. I'm sure it'll come to me about 30 seconds before I fall asleep...



CatherineHermiona - Sep 26, 2005 2:25 am (#669 of 2980)

OK, this is a bit weird, but it fits: New Electronic Wireless Telescope.

Season of tests is about to start and instructions with it. That I am doing instructions where they have to pay I would be rich. But I'm not as cruel as Finn. But I can have instructions with everyone every day and they won't stop asking me questions on tests.

I have an idea for nicknames for our Dream Team in tennis:

Mario Anèiæ: The most handsome

Ivo Karloviè: The tallest

Ivan Ljubièiæ: The best player



Madam Pince - Sep 26, 2005 6:20 am (#670 of 2980)

Oh, fiddlesticks! I didn't check the Forum last night, and so I missed watching "Extreme Makeover:Home" to see the infamous fish tank. Sigh... I really did want to see what a $50,000 fish tank could possibly look like. Probably bad timing for that show to air, huh? $50,000 could repair a lot of homes in hurricane-struck areas. Well, maybe the show will address that issue in upcoming episodes -- I don't see how they could ignore it.

You know that "internet poem" that goes:
"Give me wisdom to understand my husband,
love to forgive his mistakes,
and patience to deal with everything else,
because Lord if you give me strength,
I'll beat him to death."

It came into play this weekend at our house. Last week Mr. Pince put some of my clothes into the dryer that weren't supposed to go in the dryer, so we had a discussion about how this is about the third time for this and he isn't the best at laundry issues, so I asked him to please, please not even use the washer and dryer ever again -- if he needs something washed, please ask me and I'll be glad to do it. So I was feeling pretty safe. I have this blouse, red with some blue trim, that is part of an outfit with the pants and also a skirt, too. It's brand-new, very pretty, destined to be a favorite, only worn once for about two hours, and it needed to be soaked in salt water to "set" the colors so they wouldn't fade upon washing. (I should probably explain here that I am certainly no fashion maven, and so for me to have a new outfit that actually matches across several pieces is a very rare thing. I just don't spend my money that way usually, but this was on sale, so...) Anyway, I also planned to wash it in Woolite to baby it even further. So I put it in the washer and had it soaking in salt water. About an hour later, I went downstairs and opened the washer, to find it .... full of ratty old towels which Mr. Pince had been using to wash the car. Which he had dumped into the washing machine on top of my blouse. With bleach. And washed in hot water.

(insert smilie with head banging against the wall here)

I very rarely explode, but the ensuing scene was not pretty. It wasn't so much the loss of the shirt as it was just that I had been trying to hard to "baby" it -- I was being so careful with it, and we had already discussed him not using the washer, so for an entire set of outfits to be ruined because of some car-wash rags......

I still can't finish thinking about it.


Phoenix song - Sep 26, 2005 7:21 am (#671 of 2980)

Hello everybody! It's been quite a while since I've posted here, but I wanted to thank everybody personally for all of their thoughts and prayers as I'm dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

I won't lie and say that things have been easy, but I feel blessed in many ways. I'm pleased to say that all of my family (pets included) made it safely through the storm. That's more than many families can claim. I'm mindful of that as we face the cleanup and rebuilding process.

We're quite fortunate now that our power, water and internet services have been restored. It's harder to do without these things for extended periods of time than I can explain. My phone is still not expected to be restored until December 15, but with the invention of VoiP there's more than one way to receive phone services now. I'm grateful!

Thanks for all of your best wishes and thoughts. They mean so much to me!



Thora - Sep 26, 2005 7:30 am (#672 of 2980)

WOW. Sorry about the loss, M. Pince. That's got to be frustrating.

I never have to worry about my husband using the clothes washer, umm or the dish washer, or taking out the trash... or picking up his socks... hmmm... I'm seeing a trend here.

Ah well luckily I can't start the lawn mower and almost destroyed the snow blower last winter. Hopefully he learned his lesson about leaving his cell phone in his sweatshirt pocket because it won't survive another washing and lets face it I never check pockets.

I'm starting to think we are all hopeless.


Edit: good to hear from you Barbie!


Ydnam96 - Sep 26, 2005 7:53 am (#673 of 2980)

Barbie, glad to hear from you. Let us know if there is anything we can do. How did your house make it through?

Madame Pince, that's a horrible story. Maybe Mr. Pince should take you shopping?

Well, I'm out sick for the day. I still have the sore throat, ears hurting, headache, slight cough, and extreemly tired (but for some reason did NOT sleep last night much and what sleep I got wasn't very good). Anyway, I'm feeling slightly guilty because I could go to work like this, it wouldn't be fun, but I could. But I really just want the day to sleep...so I emailed in sick. My justification is that if I don't take today I might not kick the cold. So it's a lazy day for me, hopefully sleeping most of the day long.

Lizzy, I'm so glad the hearing aids are helping. I can imagine the transition time was not so fun.

Well, happy Monday everyone.


CatherineHermiona - Sep 26, 2005 9:33 am (#674 of 2980)

Barbie, I'm so glad to hear something from you and glad that you ended out safely from hurricane Katrina. Will you stay on this forum or you just came to say that you are safe. My mum told me that on that other forum they didn't say a word about you during hurricane Katrina and you couldn't find a post here without your and applepie's name in it. I have to say I missed you.



Denise P. - Sep 26, 2005 9:40 am (#675 of 2980)

Barbie, glad to hear that you and your family made it safely through the storm. That is great that so many of your basic services are back up since I am sure that will make things marginally easier to deal with.


kaykay1970 - Sep 26, 2005 9:44 am (#676 of 2980)

So glad you are safe Phoenix Song. I can't imagine what people are going through that lost everything. I can sympatize with the loss of electricity, though.We had a bad ice storm here years ago. We lived on 36 acres so our driveway was more of a long gravel road. It had trees down from each side of the road across it. I had 3 children at the time, the youngest was 3 months old.I could not even get my car out. My Dad came and got us and he had one child and some of our clothes.I carried the baby in his carrier car seat and a case of Enfamil. We had to crawl over one tree then under the next. Between Dad and I we managed to help the oldest child through the mess.It was unbelievable. My husband was at work so he joined us at Dad's. We were without electricity several weeks. We were able to keep our food fresh outside because of the bitter cold. We cooked everything outside on a grill. My sister had a gas water heater so I did get to have a bath.


Phoenix song - Sep 26, 2005 9:59 am (#677 of 2980)

Thanks everybody for your concerns. Mandy, my house suffered from wind damage, so I lost shutters, porches, damage to the shed, and (most importantly) roof damage. I'm sure that if my insurance company could get around to seeing me that I'd be able to fix everything up, though. That's saying a lot with the devastation that I've witnessed!

Katarina, please send my love to your mom and to your family. I think of you all very often! I'm afraid that there was quite a bit of information about Bec (applepie) and me on the Rev, but only members are able to access the "personal" threads. The chat and picture threads are for members only to limit outside access. It's a privacy and security measure. I'm sorry that it kept information from you all, though. I wasn't able to access my e-mail addresses, or to really access the internet at all, or else I'd have given you a personal update.

KayKay, I'm sorry for your ice storm experience. The good thing about living down south (to balance out the 2 hurricanes that we've seen this month!) is that we don't have ice storms and the like. Isn't it amazing how inventive you can be when you're without utilities, though! We were using our ice to first cool our drinks and food, then we'd drain the coolers for sponge baths, and then we'd use the dirty water to flush. When you're without water and power you have to learn to make do in ways that you'd never imagine before.



Good Evans - Sep 26, 2005 10:00 am (#678 of 2980)

Good to hear from you Phoenix song and I love your Avator, more people need the green ribbon!!!!!!


kaykay1970 - Sep 26, 2005 10:06 am (#679 of 2980)

I live in TN. Of course that is too far from the coast to see a hurricane, but many times we do see tornados that stem from them. We hardly ever get any snow here. That was the strange thing about this ice storm it was freaky.


Madam Pince - Sep 26, 2005 11:21 am (#680 of 2980)

Barbie, it's great to hear from you!!! We were all very worried and it's good to know that everyone is safe. Hope the recovery goes swiftly for you! At least wind damage is probably better than flood damage, from what I hear, from an insurance perspective anyway. Best wishes for a quick clean-up!

Oh, and your avatar is hysterical! I want one, I want one!

Mandy, hope your cold gets better soon. That's miserable to be sick all during the weekend! Weekends are supposed to be fun! Well, take it easy and hope you recover soon! Oh, and Mr. P did offer to get me another shirt. Unfortunately it was from a clearance rack which is all gone now. But I'm thinking that the new sterling silver Time-Turner necklace that I saw over on Leaky (or MuggleNet? I forget which) is looking pretty good....

Thanks for the "thoughts" about my shirt story! It's a minor thing, really, especially in comparison with the huge losses people have faced from storms, etc., but I just thought it was kind of humorous. Thora, I know what you mean -- I'm grateful to Mr. Pince for being good about trying to be helpful around the house -- it's just that I'm running out of clothes.... I'm very patient when it happens the first time; still patient when it happens the second time; cordial when it happens the third time; and my "Snapeish-dangerously-calm-voice" comes out when it happens the fourth time...


VeronikaG - Sep 26, 2005 11:31 am (#681 of 2980)

Good to hear you are safe Barbie.


Elanor - Sep 26, 2005 12:38 pm (#682 of 2980)

Barbie, it is so great to hear from you! Round Pink Spider kindly gave us some news after the hurricane but it is wonderful to see you posting again! My best wishes for the clean-up too.

Cheering and healing charms too to everyone needed them! **concetrating hard on the charms**


Loopy Lupin - Sep 26, 2005 1:29 pm (#683 of 2980)

Barbie, I'm glad you and yours (pets included) made it through safely.

Big news....We got a cat! Well, really more of a kitten. She's 6 months old and she's da bomb! –Kim[

Yes, but she's still a cat .


I Am Used Vlad - Sep 26, 2005 1:38 pm (#684 of 2980)

Last week Mr. Pince put some of my clothes into the dryer that weren't supposed to go in the dryer Madam Pince

When I read this, my first thought was "Why, weren't they wet?"


Stephanie M. - Sep 26, 2005 1:43 pm (#685 of 2980)

Barbie, I'm very glad to hear from you! I was wondering how everything was going.

I'm sorry about the shirt Madam Pince! Well, at least he offered to buy you another one. And it's good that he wants to help you with the house work... even if he messes everything up! I also think he should buy you a new time turner necklace.

Off to get a snack and then to the other threads!


Lina - Sep 26, 2005 1:47 pm (#686 of 2980)

Woo hoo Barbie, this one is for you! I'm glad to see you back on line! Thank you for jumping in! Some repairing charms sent! (BTW, great avatar!)

Oh, Madam Pince, that's awful! My condolences. My hubby never approaches the washer, fortunately. Sometimes, I would like to see him trying to be helping as your husband actually did, but seeing the consequences... I guess better not.

Some healing charms for you, Mandy!

Oh, Loopy, your appearing reminded me: there is a place near my town where they have invented the regulation: no more than one pet in a flat and no more than three of them in a house with a yard. I've heard the people there are looking for the lawyer that would show that this regulation is not legal.


Ydnam96 - Sep 26, 2005 1:53 pm (#687 of 2980)

Lina, does that mean if you live in an apartment you can only have one fish???? Or does the regulation only apply to our four legged friends?


Denise P. - Sep 26, 2005 1:56 pm (#688 of 2980)

Madam Pince, I feel for you. I can't tell you the number of skirts that Mr. Denise decided to "help" with and wash for me. Never MIND I told him to leave it alone since it was clearly labeled DRY CLEAN ONLY. ::::sigh::::: I make sure, now, that I don't buy DCO things or if I do, they are kept well out of reach.


Lina - Sep 26, 2005 2:04 pm (#689 of 2980)

Mandy, yes I thought of that, too. I was not listening carefully when they talked about it on TV, people were mostly complaining about the dogs (because you can always pretend that the cat is not living with you, that it is accidentally spending its time in your back yard ) but I'm not sure it applies just to four legged pets. Maybe you are allowed to have at most 4 legs in a flat, so it would mean any number of fish but at most two birds?


Finn BV - Sep 26, 2005 2:20 pm (#690 of 2980)

Maybe Mr. Pince should take you shopping? –Mandy

Ha! We men would never do that.

Madam P, please tell that story to my mom. She is dying for me to help out with the laundry.

It is great to hear from you Barbie! Glad you have made it through so safely.


Catherine - Sep 26, 2005 3:17 pm (#691 of 2980)

LOL, Madame Pince! Mr. Catherine and I have had "laundry issues" in the past. He once WASHED and DRIED a slim wool skirt. When it was done, it wouldn't have fit a house elf. Now, if he does wash something that is "ours" (read, the girls' or mine) he asks, "Can I dry this, or do you hang it up?" I have learned to put dry cleaning far, far away so that he can't touch it, just in case he decides to put things in the wash (which, admittedly, rarely happens).

Barbie, I'm so happy that you and your pets are well. Thank you for checking in and putting our members' minds at ease.

As for me, I am wrapping up things at work, as this is my last week of "flying solo." The "real" teacher will be returning from maternity leave next week, and I must confess, if only to the Forum, that I will miss my students so much. I promised them on Friday that I will bring in food and show them my "Millionaire" tape so that they can get a good laugh at my expense.

I know it sounds corny, but I hope I don't cry when I leave. I think this experience has shown me that I want to return to teaching, and I do think of these kids as "mine" and it will be hard to leave them.


timrew - Sep 26, 2005 3:30 pm (#692 of 2980)

Madam Pince:- Last week Mr. Pince put some of my clothes into the dryer that weren't supposed to go in the dryer.........

What's a dryer........?


kaykay1970 - Sep 26, 2005 3:33 pm (#693 of 2980)

I really love living in the South. My daughter was doing some homework weeks ago. She looked up and asked me how to spell ain't. I said "I S N' T." She said "Oh yeah, I forgot ain't, ain't a word." Tonight she really got me tickled. She asked me how to spell a word. I had no clue what she meant, so I made her put it in a sentence.Obviously she was under the impression that brung is the past tense of bring!


Finn BV - Sep 26, 2005 4:04 pm (#694 of 2980)

I promised them on Friday that I will bring in food and show them my "Millionaire" tape so that they can get a good laugh at my expense. –Catherine

Do I take it that you were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? Or am I completely misinterpreting something?

Tim, I can't tell if you're joking or not (one never can tell), so I might as well explain: a dryer is the opposite… of a washer? As in, one goes to the laundromat to wash clothes, and once they are washed, they must be dried, and thus are put in the dryer.


Madam Pince - Sep 26, 2005 4:50 pm (#695 of 2980)

When I read this, my first thought was "Why, weren't they wet?" --I Am Used Vlad

What's a dryer........? –timrew

Sigh... I rest my case.

No, seriously, I love you guys! If it weren't for the males in the world, who would go forth and slay the extra-large spiders? Not to mention emptying the mouse traps, and grilling the t-bone steaks, and duct-taping electrical things, and ... stuff like that? I can handle laundry if someone else will handle the spiders and dead mice.

Finn, please do feel free to pass my story on to your Mom! But I'll bet she'd be fine with you just doing your own laundry, as long as you leave hers alone! We ladies generally won't protest anyone doing their own.

Catherine, I hope you're not too sad when your "term" ends. At least you've learned an important thing about yourself, and you may end up taking a new direction career-wise! Chin up! (and I didn't know you were on "Millionaire?!" How'd you do?)

kaykay, that story is so cute. It reminds me of when I used to ask my Mom "Where's the juice at?" and she'd say "It's right between the 'A' and the 'T'." She had a thing about ending a sentence with a preposition or something...

Lina, is that you in your avatar, or your daughter? Great picture, either way!


timrew - Sep 26, 2005 4:50 pm (#696 of 2980)

I was joking, Finn. I know that the dryer is that big, white thing in the corner, next to the w-a-sh-er..........


Madam Pince - Sep 26, 2005 4:54 pm (#697 of 2980)

Next Tim will ask "What is duct tape?"


dizzy lizzy - Sep 26, 2005 4:57 pm (#698 of 2980)

What's a dryer........? timrew

Hey I'll second that! Whether or not Tim was joking...

Having said that; ALL my clothes get hung out on the clothes line to dry (I don't own a dryer), and in wet and cold weather, the heater is used and I get dry clothes and a warm room at the same time. Not only that I only own two blazers that are dry clean only...everything gets chucked in the washing machine.

We've had a blast of summer here and it's only the first month of spring here. I had to wake up my airconditioner on the weekend and use it.

It was good to see my Dad and Brother. I haven't had much of a chance to talk to my Brother's new fiancee so it was great to get to know her a bit better. We had a really lovely lunch, went and fed the cattle their supplementary feed, went rabbit shooting, got sunburnt and then played a table tennis tournament before tea. I ended up staying the night and driving back yesterday morning.

I also picked up the puppy dogs from their holiday at the vets, they were very pleased to have a good run around the yard...in the rain!

Have a great week everyone!

Good to see you back Phoenix Song and I am so pleased to hear you are all safe and well.



timrew - Sep 26, 2005 4:58 pm (#699 of 2980)

What is duct tape?


Madam Pince - Sep 26, 2005 5:01 pm (#700 of 2980)

I knew it! :spew:

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Finn BV - Sep 26, 2005 5:14 pm (#701 of 2980)

Oops. See, with Tim, you never can tell. FYI, duct tape is……

I was waiting for the smiley to set off the joke but it just never came. I guess I figured it was some sort of American-ism and the Brits call it something or who else. Y'know???

Lizzy, I envy your season switch! ::frustrated:: Glad you're having a good time with the family.

Edit: Madam P, that is Kate in Lina's avatar – I believe she [Lina] used to have herself but Kate didn't like it so the switch was made…


kaykay1970 - Sep 26, 2005 5:15 pm (#702 of 2980)

I forgot this earlier. Another good thing from the South. I am really looking forward to Thursday. My childrens' high school is sponsoring a donkey basketball game. Yes, it is exactly what it sounds like for those who have never attended one. You play basketball while riding a donkey! It is sooo hilarious! The little boy across the road always competes and I can't wait to watch him again this year. It is sponsered by the Beta Club which means my 16 year old daughter will again be rodeo clown/pooper scooper(I know she is looking forward to that haha). Anyway I'm really excited because they are raising money for St. Jude Childrens Hospital. That really means alot to me because my Dad had lymphoma for 11 years from exposure to agent orange. He ultimately passed away in 2001 from luekemia caused by chemotherapy for lymphoma.Of course he never went to St. Jude being an adult, but I'm sure he benefitted from the research that they do. Either way it is for a great cause and loads of fun!


timrew - Sep 26, 2005 5:27 pm (#703 of 2980)

No, please, I know what duct tape is...................it's tape............for ducts...........


Chemyst - Sep 26, 2005 5:36 pm (#704 of 2980)

All You Never Wanted To Know About Duct Tape:  http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Duct-Tape.html

PS - Great to see you back, Barbie.


I Am Used Vlad - Sep 26, 2005 5:38 pm (#705 of 2980)

At least no one is calling it Duck Tape. That's a fairly common error.


Stephanie M. - Sep 26, 2005 6:00 pm (#706 of 2980)

I just got this weird letter telling me that one of my teachers contacted a program for Student Ambassadors and they want me to go to Australia for 18 days in 2006.

I actually don't think one of my teachers contacted them, I just think they found my name somewhere and sent me stuff so I can pay and insane amount of money to go to a program that is a waste of my time. They also said that I would get credits for any college that I want to go to. Hmm weird. It actually sounds kind of cool though... swimming and snorkeling in the Great Barrier Reef and "getting adopted by a welcoming local family" to see koalas and kangaroos. I think I might try to convince my family that the next vacation we go on should be to Australia.

Duct tape is... very sticky... maybe ducks use it for something.


Finn BV - Sep 26, 2005 6:06 pm (#707 of 2980)

LOL… really, Steph? Bring it in tomorrow… that's really weird.

No, please, I know what duct tape is...................it's tape............for ducts...........

You clearly have to check out Chemyst's link. That is nowhere near close.


Amilia Smith - Sep 26, 2005 6:11 pm (#708 of 2980)

I went snorkeling this weekend. It was really very fun once I got over the Oh My Gosh I Can't Breath panic. And learned how to blow the salt water out instead of breathing it in.

All the talk of Duct Tape makes me miss The Red Green Show, which I used to watch every Saturday night. Don't know if they show it here or not, but as I haven't got a TV . . .



Stephanie M. - Sep 26, 2005 6:42 pm (#709 of 2980)

I went snorkeling in the Bahamas... that was really fun except for all of the fish swimming into you and losing my 6 year old cousin on the beach when my sister and my cousin Matthew were supposed to be watching him. We found him about an hour later... That must have been the freakiest moment that I have ever had.

I'll bring the letter tomorrow Finn. It's really cool. I just realized that it was sent to some people in the New York City area, but I think you still had to be selected because they can't have random people in a different country for 18 days!! I am actually really starting to want to go but I would feel more comfortable if I knew at least one person going with me.


Madam Pince - Sep 26, 2005 7:17 pm (#710 of 2980)

Steph, is the letter you got from the group 'Student Ambassadors' that is affiliated with 'People to People'? If it is, I think you're right -- it's not really an "award," per se, although your name may have been given to them by a teacher. I think it is basically a student travel organization. I used to work for a student travel company (we only did travel within the States, though) and I recall hearing about them -- from what I can recall they are reputable, but I'm sure your parents will want to check them out more thoroughly. I checked out their website very briefly, and it looks like what I remember. Basically, you got it right -- they want you to take a trip and pay a whole lot of money for it. But on the plus side, it does appear to be well-run and if you can get college credits, well that's just icing. If I can give you some recommendations -- check on the following: Be very sure to take out any travel insurance that is offered. All that you can. Also, check out the regular insurance very carefully -- what happens if you get appendicitis while on tour or fall and twist your ankle or something. Also what happens if the company should go bankrupt. (When I was in the biz, there were small start-up companies that did that all the time, and the participants were usually just out of luck.) Lastly, be sure there is a good chaperone-to-student ratio (1:15 or less) and that there will be chaperones and guides with you on your trip at all times. OK, lecture over.......

Mills, your snorkeling trip sounds fantastic! Did you go off a boat or off a beach? What kind of fun fish did you see? Little Pince would be so envious -- to be a "diver man" is his heart's desire, next to being a Space Ranger....


Amilia Smith - Sep 26, 2005 9:21 pm (#711 of 2980)

I went off a beach. It was right next to a power plant, and they pump cold sea water in to cool whatever-it-is-they-need-to-cool-to-make-electricity, and then they pump the now warm sea water back into the ocean. So all the fish like to go by the pipe and the warm water. Unfortunantly, I was panicking so bad to start with that the guys I was with decided not to go all the way out to the pipe where the really cool fish were. Even after I had calmed down and was concentrating hard on Relaxing and Breathing Thru My Mouth. :-( Ah well, next time.

Even so, I did see some interesting fish. Bright florescent colors and black stripes. (So scientific today, aren't I?) I was fascinated by the way the fish would be swept around by the current. I know that shouldn't have surprised me, but somehow I seem to think of tropical fish as they are in tanks: only going where they want, not where the water pushes them.

I am definently going to go again. I heartily approve of Little Pince's ambitions. :-)



Mrs. Sirius - Sep 26, 2005 10:16 pm (#712 of 2980)

Oh Madame Pince, yes the agony of it, and they were just trying to be helpful.

I must thank you though, for telling about the salt soak for color fastness. I have a jump suit, that is purple with bright green trim, (yes it is from 25 years ago, during my punk rock/new wave stage in London) that I just love, (I'll probably never wear it again).

I was about to wash it because it has gotten so dusty sitting in the back of my closet all these years. It is cotton and very color fast, so I soaked it in salt and I think it did help stem the out flow of purple.


Miss Malaprop - Sep 27, 2005 12:11 am (#713 of 2980)

I've finally finished my tax return so I am now allowed to post again (this was self-imposed exile, not some worldcrossing requirement!). I was tempted to go outside and enjoy the warm, springy smells, but my computer won!

Here's a silly question - Tim, is that you or your son in your avatar?

Mrs Sirius - hang on to that jumpsuit; it will probably be back in fashion in ten years time and your daughters will be fighting over it!


The giant squid - Sep 27, 2005 1:43 am (#714 of 2980)

Tim, duct tape (not Duck Tape, which is a brand name) is like the Force...it has a dark side & a light side and it binds the universe together.

[...]duct-taping electrical things[...]--Madame Pince

Yikes!! Remind me to avoid any wiring at your place. Quick tip: duct tape burns...  One should make electrical repairs with, oh I don't know, electrical tape.

While I have repeatedly asserted to my wife that I quite capably kept my clothes clean for years before she even met me, I also understand that her classifications differ from mine (mine: whites, darks, towels, jeans; hers: whites, blacks, blues, greens, light colors, non-dryables, towels...). Since I have to keep asking her "Can I throw this in the dryer? How about this? What about this one?" we've decided it's easier for her to do it. Since this allows me to sit on the couch & watch TV for longer periods of time, I'm all for it!

Welcome back, Barbie! It's hard to feel happy at times like this, but we're all glad you and your family are all right.



Good Evans - Sep 27, 2005 4:46 am (#715 of 2980)

lol - loads of crazy posts last night !!!

madam P - I must take issue, giant spiders in my house, are invited to leave verbally, hubby and teenage boys, the dog and me are all on the sofa with our legs up if one runs across the floor!!!!!!!

Hubby under sufferance will go and get a glass and peice of card, but I have to deal most of the other times - and all flying nasties are left to me........ yuck!!!!!!


mike miller - Sep 27, 2005 9:26 am (#716 of 2980)

Tim - Again we seem to be two peoples seperated by a common language.

Squid Mike - "duct tape (not Duck Tape, which is a brand name) is like the Force...it has a dark side & a light side and it binds the universe together."     LOL, one of the best I've read in some time.

Madame Pince - Sorry about the laundry event. Personally, I'm very comfortable around all laundry related devices, even the electric iron. However, my wife has the nasty habit of cutting out the labels on her garments because they itch. I now place any questionable item on the back of a chair (the clothes drying rack is usually full) and let her sort them out!


Madam Pince - Sep 27, 2005 9:34 am (#717 of 2980)

Good morning, all!

Mills, that sounds so fun! How funny -- I'd never thought about fish getting swept around by a current either! It makes perfect sense, but I'm like you, it never occurred to me before. I've been snorkeling a couple times, but there was never any real current to speak of, and the fish looked like they do in a tank. Breathing while your face is in the water is a weird feeling to get used to, isn't it? It's like some primeval force takes over and is telling you "Are you crazy? Don't take a breath!" I snorkeled once at that very touristy beach in Hawaii -- is it Hanauma Bay? -- and I took some fish food out with me. Talk about panic! As soon as I opened the packet, about a zillion fish swarmed all around me, and that was a real panicky moment, let me tell you! Totally harmless fish, of course, but the sensation was just... weird. And the parrot fish look kind of scary with that beaky mouth -- they won't bite I guess, but they sure look like they would when they're up close! Ha!

Squid Mike, .... ummm..... big "Oops!" with the duct tape / electrical tape! See, I told you that's why we need you guys around! I think you and Mr. Pince are in the same boat -- he says he never had any laundry problems before I came along, either. Very true. All his colored clothes go in wash and dryer, all his whites go in wash (he adds bleach) and dryer, and his suits go to the cleaner. End of story. No "line dry" or "hand wash in Woolite" or any of that stuff. I've decided it might also be part of the "Bill Cosby syndrome," too. Remember that stand-up routine he did years ago? Where he kept asking his wife questions like "Where do we keep the pans? Do we have any pans?" when she asked him to cook breakfast, and she got so fed up she did it herself, which is what he wanted in the first place. He said "Yes, we are dumb... but we are NOT so dumb...."

Mrs. Sirius, glad to help with the soaking thing!

Miss Malaprop, welcome back! We've missed you!

LOL, Good Evans! Now I have this picture of your whole family cringing on the sofa (dog, too!) with a spider waving menacingly...

Edit: (cross-posted with Mike Miller) -- Hi Mike! That's so funny! Mr. Pince does the exact same thing as your wife with the cutting the tags out of the back! It drives me nuts! But then again, as I said, he basically treats all clothes exactly the same, so the tag is sort of superfluous anyway...

Re: putting items on the back of a chair -- I once read an ad in the Classifieds: "Exercise Bike For Sale. Excellent Condition. Doubles as a clothes rack." I thought that was hysterical, and so true!


Lina - Sep 27, 2005 2:03 pm (#718 of 2980)

Catherine, I hope you won't cry on Friday. But if you do, it's still O.K. I can imagine you are going to miss the kids. They know how to be real charming pests, don't they? I'm sure the kids will cry too. And I hope you find the similar job soon!

dizzy lizzy: ALL my clothes get hung out on the clothes line to dry (I don't own a dryer)and in wet and cold weather, the heater is used and I get dry clothes and a warm room at the same time. Not only that I only own two blazers that are dry clean only... everything gets chucked in the washing machine.
I'm with you! Every piece of clothing has to pass the washer test. If it does, that's good. If it doesn't, well, too bad. That's why I never buy something that needs complicated treatment. Thank you very much. There is enough of fabric that looks good and preferably doesn't need ironing.

I hate spiders but I don't remember my husband killing any of them for me. I tried to think of the house work that he does for me, so I had to change my avatar. He is very good in hanging photographs and posters on our walls (preferably made by himself). I feel like I'm living in a gallery because he likes to change them a lot. When I saw the posters that you can see in my avatar, my comment was "Fortunately, it will not last for long." This thing happened 2 weeks ago and it is already looking different.

BTW, Finn guessed quite correctly about my previous avatar. It was a sort of revenge: When I put my image, she said: "You should have put something where you are seen from the back, like with me last time, you would look much better."

Stephanie, if you decide to be Ambassador in Croatia, you can come to our place! We have an extra bed in the all girls' room.

Kaykay, if you want your third grader to have fun while learning multiplication table, there is a nice freeware - here is the description and here is the download. It is 11 MB but you can download it while chatting with my daughter.


Denise P. - Sep 27, 2005 2:13 pm (#719 of 2980)

For those kids who have a harder time mastering the higher multiplication facts (6-9), this program is fantastic!! I post with one of the inventors/owners on another board and got to try it out before they started selling. I was amazed at how quickly kids learned this. Times Tales Most kids can learn it in about an hour and know it. I ahve two that are learning their multiplication right now and I am about to break out Times Tales when we get to 6 (they are on 4's right now)


kaykay1970 - Sep 27, 2005 2:21 pm (#720 of 2980)

Thanks Lina!! Anything to make learning fun is good with an 8 year old. I am dowloading it now. Your daughter is so sweet.I know you are proud of her. She has told me so much about your country. She seems to take such pride in her heritage. She is also so smart. One would never know that English is not her native language.

Edit: Thank you, too Denise. You posted while I was typing my post so I missed you. I will look into that one, too.


Lina - Sep 27, 2005 2:47 pm (#721 of 2980)


timrew - Sep 27, 2005 2:56 pm (#722 of 2980)

Still no-one has explained what duct tape is used for. Is it just for sticking across my mouth so I won't ask any more questions........?


Finn BV - Sep 27, 2005 2:59 pm (#723 of 2980)

**duct tapes Tim's mouth and throws him into the dryer, locks dryer and throws away key**


I Am Used Vlad - Sep 27, 2005 3:08 pm (#724 of 2980)

Now I'm confused. I've never seen a dryer with a keyhole.


Ydnam96 - Sep 27, 2005 3:10 pm (#725 of 2980)

Finn, you have a dryer with a lock? That would solve the problem of the men putting the wrong things in and shrinking them. You should sell those!

But, I think you should let Tim out. You wouldn't want him to suffocate.


Catherine - Sep 27, 2005 3:51 pm (#726 of 2980)

To answer Finn's and Madame Pince's question, yes, I was on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." I filmed it in September 2003, and it aired in November 2003.

I missed the $64,000 question, alas earwax. For those interested, the international bowling hall of fame is in St. Louis, not Milwaukee.

I picked the wrong "beer town." Oh, well....


kaykay1970 - Sep 27, 2005 4:10 pm (#727 of 2980)

Wow, Catherine! It is impressive that you got to the $64,000 question! I would have been a nervous wreck!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Sep 27, 2005 4:21 pm (#728 of 2980)

Hey everyone! I can't believe how busy I am. I had a few free minutes this evening so I figured I'd stop in and say hello to everyone. I also need a bit of help from anyone who can...

My best friend is leaving for Iraq on Saturday. He wants to go sometime this week to get a tattoo before he goes and he wants me to design it. I figured it should be something that means something to the two of us. For the past few months, as his departure date got closer, I've (naturally) been getting more and more worried. Everytime I start to get upset, he always says the same thing to me, "Jenn, nothing's going to happen to me, but if it should, just know not even death could seperate us." I know it sounds really sappy, but it always cheers me up. I was thinking I would design the tattoo to say something like "not even death can separate us" or perhaps even just "not even death" The problem is that I really really want it to be in Latin. I thought about just typing the phrase into an on-line translator, but those things are never very accurate. Here's where the "help comes in". I know there are a fair few of you who know at least a little Latin. Any help I could get in traslating these phrases would be awesome. The exact phrases I want to translate are:

1. Not even death can seperate us 2. Not even death

I am aware that exact translations may not be plausible, but as long as they kept the general meaning, that would be fine. Thanks in andvance for any help anyone can give me!



Marè - Sep 27, 2005 4:53 pm (#729 of 2980)

Hello, I missed a lot, didn't I?

Happy birthdays all around, happy ... congratulations(?) to Tims now extended family. Very glad that Barbie is okay...
Did I miss anything or anyone? Likely. Edit: and congratulations for Lizzy on the hearing device. Great to read that it is going so much better!

Anyway, duck tape (excuse me the spelling, I never got the meaning from either the duct or the duck part so I will keep the one I think most funny) is commonly used to repair leaks in boats after the heavyweights put theirs on the rocks again (braincapacity of a coconut that lot) or to keep together a bike that would otherwise fall apart, or to make nametags what will never ever fall off.
It doesn't work on repairing cracked windows though, which is too bad because otherwise it would be pretty omnipotent. (tip of the day: don't put the barbecue near the window, it cracks the glass.) And it doesn't work to well on ducks either (or so I have been told).

And on the snorkelling part: I'm about to start my second dive course next week. I had a "refresh" moment in the swimmingpool yesterday and next week it will be outdoors again... In october, great idea! :note the sarcasm:
I will be doing some deep diving, wreck diving, night diving and something with a compass. No fish though, because I don't think we will see for more than a few meters. So I guess I will put Hawaii on my list of places to be and see!

So, I'm off to read a bit here and there, have a good night!


boop - Sep 27, 2005 4:59 pm (#730 of 2980)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WISHES FOR SEPT. 28th: Viola Intonada(Michelle). Have a wonderful birthday!!!! BTW I will be out in Ohio in Oct 14th thru the 16th. I will give you a call, maybe we can get together.

Hello Everyone!!!!

hugs always



Finn BV - Sep 27, 2005 5:06 pm (#731 of 2980)

Finn, you have a dryer with a lock? That would solve the problem of the men putting the wrong things in and shrinking them. You should sell those! --Mandy

Alas, you have discovered my secret. Tomorrow Maytag will have them on the market and I will be nothing but a wretch beaten out of a fortune.

1. Not even death can seperate us 2. Not even death –Jenn

Jenn, I will ask my Latin teacher tomorrow if he can translate them as best as possible. I'll let you know! Best wishes to your friend.

Sorry, Tim. **goes out, searches for key, and unlocks no longer secret dryer**

**hears Tim breath heartily**

Edit: Happy Bday Viola Intonada! Best wishes!


kaykay1970 - Sep 27, 2005 5:31 pm (#732 of 2980)

Lina, This program is great! I don't know which language you have downloaded. On the English version the voice that praises the child for correct answers has an English accent. My daughter loved that because she can pretend she is Hermoine while she is playing!


Madam Pince - Sep 27, 2005 5:41 pm (#733 of 2980)

Jenn, I will also e-mail my cousin, who is a Latin teacher. Hope we can find an answer for you.

Happy Birthday, Viola Intonada! Many happy returns of the day! (***and waves at Betty!***)

Catherine, that is so cool that you were on "Millionaire"! Very impressive to have gotten so far! (Milwaukee? Who'd a thunk it?)

Speaking of game shows, tonight is the premiere (in the U.S., anyway) of the latest edition of "Amazing Race." Some of you may recall that Mr. Pince participated in filming one of the episodes earlier this summer -- he's not a contestant, he was one of the background guys in one of the "challenges" (it involved a battle re-enactment from the Civil War.) He may or may not be "on-camera." At any rate, we don't think that his episode is tonight's, because of the number of teams that he recalls having gone through the challenge (he thought there were 6 maybe?) But it might be, because it's a 2-hour episode. Anyway, if you're watching "Amazing Race" and they're doing something Civil-War-ish, look for him! He'll be a Union officer, has a brown mustache and goatee-ish beard, and (according to him) was doing a lot of yelling. He thinks there was at least one very close-up shot of him rounding up the troops, but who knows if it made it in the editing process.

***off to set the VCR!***


Finn BV - Sep 27, 2005 6:10 pm (#734 of 2980)

Oh, completely forgot, Catherine, that is so cool you were on Millionaire! So, you obviously had nothing to lose in the $64,000 question because you had already won $32,000 no matter what… Milwaukee, St. Louis, what's the difference? How many lifelines had you used? And was Regis really cool to meet up in person?


I Am Used Vlad - Sep 27, 2005 7:01 pm (#735 of 2980)

Happy birthday, Viola.

Mare, have fun diving and try to stay warm. I think I mentioned earlier in this thread that I took diving lessons this year. It was fun, but I could never get my ears to stop hurting. Clearing my mask was also an issue. I'll probably never do it again, but I enjoyed the experience.

Madam Pince, I have Amazing Race on. No sign of your husband yet.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Sep 27, 2005 7:18 pm (#736 of 2980)

Good evening everyone. So, my french homework didn't take half as long as I imagined it would, so I now have yet another chance to hop on and say hello.

Finn and Madme Pince, thank you so much for your help. I really appriciate it! Unfortunatly, I have yet another request of everyone. (I know, I'm about to reach my limit of polling this resource ) Can you guys help me think of some symbols for strength and for freedom?

Catherine, that's awesome that you were on Millionaire! How exciting!

Happy birthday to everyone I may have missed recently.

Okay, I'm off to check some threads before bed....



Eponine - Sep 27, 2005 7:40 pm (#737 of 2980)

All this talk about duct/duck tape has made me search out the Duck Tape Prom Dress Contest. One brand of duct tape is actually called Duck Tape, and they make their tape in all sorts of fun colors, not just your garden variety grey. Every year they have a contest for scholarship money. The rules are simple - make your prom dress and/or prom tux out of their product. You can go here to browse the various entries. I'm amazed at these things.

I hope everyone is having a great day!


Denise P. - Sep 27, 2005 8:03 pm (#738 of 2980)

Madam Pince, looks like next week will be Mr. Pince's chance at his 15 minutes of fame. I will have to keep an eye out for him, I was planning to slo mo my Tivo to see if he was in the preview. Of course, it helps that I met Mr. Pince last year and know what he specifically looks like


Ydnam96 - Sep 15, 2005 4:44 pm (#739 of 2980)

Well, I've taken the last two days off from work because I've had some icky cold or something. I absolutely have to go back to work tomorrow so I'm hoping that I'm feeling better. Can you believe I actually got bored with the internet this afternoon? I think it was because I was too tired to actually type things. But I am feeling better right now so I'm praying it stays that way.

Found out some bad news about a friend's baby today; his name is James, he is two and was diagnosed with Leukima. If you all who pray would send up some prayers for him I know his family would appreciate it. But, I am taking Denise's (Thank You!) advice and being positive about it!

Okay, off to watch Gilmore Girls and then the new show about Gina Davis as president.

Hope you all are doing well...make sure to wash your hands a lot, this cold seems to be spreading quickly everywhere! (okay, done being mom-like)


pottermom34 - Sep 27, 2005 8:52 pm (#740 of 2980)

Can you guys help me think of some symbols for strength and for freedom?-- Soul Mate for Sirius
How about an eagle with a U.S. flag.

So Catherine, It's cool you were on Millionaire. Did you do anything exciting and fun with your winnings?

I use duct (or quacker tape as we sometimes call it) for lots of things. It's not just for ducks you know.


Denise P. - Sep 27, 2005 9:34 pm (#741 of 2980)

You can repair just about anything with duct tape and zip ties. hee hee hee


kaykay1970 - Sep 27, 2005 9:36 pm (#742 of 2980)

Ydnam, My family will keep your friend and little James in our prayers. I think I already got your cold. I can't sleep tonight because there is no breathing through my nose. Since you must have passed it to me through the computer it is bound to be a virus. haha


Denise P. - Sep 27, 2005 9:48 pm (#743 of 2980)

Very posiive thoughts and prayers for little James are going out, Mandy. It is tough news for anyone but when it is a child, it makes it that much harder.


Mrs. Sirius - Sep 27, 2005 9:59 pm (#744 of 2980)

Still no-one has explained what duct tape is used for. Is it just for sticking across my mouth so I won't ask any more questions........?

Tim, duck tape is that must have for everyday life, and especially slacker moms everywhere. It is perfect for everything. Sure you can repair your duct pipes with it but you can also repair a babies diaper that is not closing properly, the hem on your shirt is out? duct tape it, that leather chair in the den have a puncture? duct tape to the rescue, outlet was removed from the wall and now you have a gaping hole through which your kids are now throwing your silverware? duct tape it shut. See? the uses are just endless.

Happy birthday and congratulations all around to those deserving.


Elanor - Sep 27, 2005 11:28 pm (#745 of 2980)

Mandy, my thoughts and prayers go to little James too!

Jenn: "Can you guys help me think of some symbols for strength and for freedom?"
Maybe I can help you here! The first strength symbol that comes to my mind is probably one of the oldest ones, it is hair (remember Samson whose strength was supposed to come from his hair?). The lion is also a great strength symbol, so a lion, with a beautiful mane, would be a great strength symbol. Birds, them, can often represent freedom. If we look at the virtues, traditionally "hope" can be represented by an anchor, a dove or a small boat and "courage" by a knight's armour, a lion's skin, a sword and a shield or a flag. That's all that come to my (not so awake) mind for now but I have an "Encyclopaedia of symbolism" and I can search more in it if you want. If you also think of other things that you like but you're not sure what they symbolise, I can check in it too.

Happy birthday Viola!

It was great to see you posting Marè! **waving like mad** Good luck for the dive!

I wish I could have some time to write more but unfortunately I haven't, but I loved your TV, duct tape (never heard of that name before!) and spiders stories! Have a great day/night everybody!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Sep 28, 2005 12:00 am (#746 of 2980)

Elanor, thanks for the suggestions. Any others you (or anyone else for that matter) may think of would be of great help as well. This tattoo is really consuming all my free time, but it needs to be designed by Thursday (at the very latest) so I can take Aaron to get it sometime before he leaves on Saturday. I really appreciate everyone's help. I've been looking for symbols on-line, but I can't find too many helpful sites. Most of the symbols I'm finding are really good ones, but not something I can easily design a tattoo around.

I must say I've been greatly enjoying everyone's duct tape conversation, even if I haven't been joining in. With so much on my plate at the moment, I often find time to come in and read what everyone's got to say, but not enough to reply.



Good Evans - Sep 28, 2005 12:13 am (#747 of 2980)

newsflash for the DIGS theorists....and the Dumbledore is still alive theorists.....   http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/photogalleries/giant_squid/

the first ever pictures of a Giant Squid have been taken by scientists, it was on the news this morning, I nearly crashed thinking how careless Dumbledore has been to let himself be seen, but then again perhaps he arranged with JKR to be seen and tantalise us all some more!!!!!


Troels Forchhammer - Sep 28, 2005 1:11 am (#748 of 2980)

Hi again!

Ah, Good Evans, you beat me at it

I, on the other hand, will then include this

This is the Giant Squid, not Dumbledore

I am very sorry, but I don't really think it carries any significant resemblance with our dear departed Headmaster

On a personal note ... what a month!!!

Do you know the feeling that you wish you could just rip the whole month out of the calendar and it would never have happened? I feel that way. My wife has had two gallstones this month (the first was removed surgically, the second passed [I don't know from where to where nor through where, but as gallstones do, I suppose ] but she got a week on public support in both cases [in Denmark hospitals are public, paid for by taxes], and, the two hospitalisations being a week apart, September was nearly done when she got back, at which point I went down with the 'flu that had threatened ...)

Sorry, I didn't mean to tell my whole tale of woe, but I was so encouraged by the warm support I got when the first one stroke that I couldn't help myself.

Anyway, we are now all well again and trying to catch up with everything. I'm not sure I'll have time to go through all that has happened in the time I've been away (not even in the threads I contribute to), so I'll probably just lurk about for a while (making the occasional comment to show I'm still alive) and get a feeling of which direction the debate is currently taking.


The giant squid - Sep 28, 2005 1:55 am (#749 of 2980)

Good Evans: drat, I've been spotted!

Troels, sounds like you had a busy month indeed. I'm glad you're both doing better now, but gallstones--ugh!

Mike M., I can't take credit for the duct tape/Star Wars thing. I heard it years ago from a no-longer-known source. Tim, duct tape may originally have been developed for sealing ductwork, but nowdays it's pretty much used for Everything. Fixing things, hanging things, connecting things...I've seen it used to "repair" a busted car fender once. As Eponine & Mrs. Sirius showed us, the applications are endless.



dizzy lizzy - Sep 28, 2005 2:54 am (#750 of 2980)

Hmmm I 'm now starting to think duct tape is what I call gaffer tape.

Gaffer tape is a tough, fabric backed adhesive tape that has become legendary for usefulness in the movie and entertainment industry. The tape is often black and so blends with the typically black stage floor of a theater; it is also both strong and strongly adhesive, it is ripped by hand along the horizontal or vertical axis easily rather than cut, and (unlike duct tape) leaves little to no residue when removed. Loose cables on a stage so taped down are usually said to be gaffered. From wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_tape

Even if the above defintion means means duct tape and gaffer tape are pretty similar; I've used it on everything. In actual fact I would not be able to connect onto the net without my telephone extension cord being stuck up out of the way with gaffer tape!!! Best use...keeping motel room curtains closed .

And yes I carry a roll with me in my workload box, you never know when it will come in handy .

Now whether it is an Aussie peculiarity that gaffer tape is better known than duct tape over here, I wouldn't like to guess.

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Denise P. - Sep 28, 2005 5:42 am (#751 of 2980)

Sounds like duct tape and gaffer tape are very similar.

I was serious when I said you can repair anything with duct tape and zip ties. We all become MacGyver...or for the older folks, the Professor from Gilligan's Island.


Madam Pince - Sep 28, 2005 6:29 am (#752 of 2980)

I had an elderly uncle whose wallet had been repaired with duct tape so much that you couldn't see any part of the original leather of the wallet -- it was a completely duct-tape wallet. I wanted to buy him a new wallet for Christmas, but he wouldn't hear of it. He said this one fitted in his hip pocket just perfectly.

I'm sure a lot of people have heard that old joke about how you only need two things to repair everything in the world. If it is supposed to move and doesn't -- use WD-40. If it is not supposed to move and does, use duct tape. (WD-40 is a commercial name here in the States for a lubricant -- I think it's graphite-based, maybe? And as everyone has said, duct tape is usually gray, fabric-based on the back, and extremely sticky on the other side -- is very strong, and can leave a residue on the item if it's left on there too long.)

Eponine, I remember reading a newspaper article about the duct tape prom clothes! Too funny! Kind of puts you in mind of the old colonial practice of "bundling," doesn't it?

Mandy, I'm so sorry to hear about little James. Our thoughts and prayers will go out to him. Also, sorry about your cold still hanging around. Man, that has really kicked your hiney this time, hasn't it? Hope you're feeling better!

Jenn, I vote for the eagle as being a good symbol of strength and freedom, particularly for an American military man. I know it's kind of "standard," but, well, that's just because it's so good! I e-mailed my cousin about the Latin but haven't heard back yet. If he gets the tattoo that says "not even death," are you going to get the rest of the phrase on a tattoo on you? It sounds kind of incomplete on its own, but hey -- it'll be in Latin and who else will know? Except you two, which is what counts anyway, right?

Yep, Denise, it looks like Mr. Pince's episode of "Amazing Race" will be next week. Which is kind of odd, because he really thought there were fewer teams than nine, but oh well. Also, they had been told that the contestants were coming from Dulles Airport, so they thought the contestants had flown in, but as of right now they're in Lancaster, PA, so I don't see why they'd fly to Dulles from that close. But maybe they go to Chicago or something in between -- who knows? It's funny, because the producers and crew had been chatting with Mr. Pince's guys before the contestants arrived, and they divulged a little "insider" info on which contestants were ... um... a royal pain in the arse. After watching last night's episode, I can see what they were talking about! *Think Pink* I was sorry to see last night's team go. It would've been nicer if it had been *the disrespectful Jersey boys!*

LOL, yes Denise it does help that you know what Mr. Pince looks like! I'll try to see if I can't find a picture of him somewhere that I can put on my page or something -- I'm very inept at that sort of thing, but I think there are web pages somewhere with pics of him in uniform. He's on a lot of Maryland state tourism info -- they did an ad campaign to promote tourism to Maryland's battleground sites and he was in that a good deal.

DIGS lives! Whoo-hoo!! Thanks for the info, Good Evans and Troels! I wish there was something in that picture to give us a size perspective -- are they really speculating that it is a huge gigantic squid? How big? (Not that size matters, of course, Squid Mike ) I haven't heard this new squid discovery in our news yet....

Troels, sorry to hear about your horrible month! Best wishes go out to you and your wife that things will be much better in October!

Everyone have a nice day!


Thora - Sep 28, 2005 6:43 am (#753 of 2980)

Duct tape and Gaffer tape are two very different tapes. Gaffer or gaffing tape comes primarily in black and white and is absorbant so that one can paint over it. Duct tape has a thread base on the sticky side but the other side is a reflective plastic. I've used both on many occasions, and can tell you that while duct tape is great for holding things together, gaffer tape is the prefered tape of the theatre. One could put together an entire set without nails or screws if one had enough gaffer tape. The costume mistress would much prefer it, acctually as tape won't rip, snag or otherwise deface her creations. I think it has better long lasting stickiness once painted over too, but that's mostly because the paint soaks through and dries to make a bond of it's own. I love gaffer tape.

We keep a few rolls of duct tape handy in case any of the nuclear power plants in the area have the hiccups and we have to seal off all the doors and windows.

I find double sided tape gives a much nicer hem though, don't you?

Oh and the Elizabethan Gown on that duck tape site was so cool, girl after my own heart there.

The thing about duct tape that makes it so popular is it's immence sticking ability. It will stick to plastic, metal, and dust free wood. It sticks very well to itself to which comes in handy too. Like most tapes it loses it's stick and elasticity with extended exposure to heat, cold, and the elements. It doesn't stick well to wet substances, unless applied before the moisture and then it stays bonded pretty well.

As for symbols of strength and freedom, how about the mountains?



Elanor - Sep 28, 2005 7:47 am (#754 of 2980)

Troels!!!!!!! **waving frantically** It is so good to "see" you again here! What a month you had indeed, I'm glad everything is ok for you and your family now.

I have heard about the Giant Squid this morning too, and thought exactly the same as you did then Good Evans! The journalist said it must be something like 25 meters long, quite impressive isn't it?

Jenn, I have searched a bit more and found those symbols too: some trees are symbols of strength, especially the cedar tree and the oak (its Latin name "robur" gave the word "robust" afterwards). The horse is another one. Another symbol can maybe be interesting, and original, it is the salamander. It is supposed to be able to live inside the fire and extinguish it at will. It was used as an emblem sometimes: the king François the First (16th century) for example used it with the motto: "Nutrico et extinguo" (I support/keep alive and I extinguish). I'll tell you if I find more !


Finn BV - Sep 28, 2005 8:04 am (#755 of 2980)

Just checking in… briefly browsed through the posts… best wishes to James, Mandy.

Jenn, I have three translations for you:
1.  The closest translation: ne mors quidem nos separare potest (not even death is able to separate us)
2. The best Latin: nec mors nos separabit (nor will death separate us)
3. The closest actual Latin phrase: nec nos mare separat ingens (nor does the huge sea separate us)

The last one was written by the poet Ovid. Ok, got to run, more later!


Madam Pince - Sep 28, 2005 8:18 am (#756 of 2980)

Oooo, I like the second one! And you could actually combine a lot of the "strength" symbols -- an eagle with mountains and/or an oak tree in the background, carrying a banner in his beak with the Latin phrase within it... Of course, it all depends on your friend's pain threshold!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Sep 28, 2005 10:39 am (#757 of 2980)

Good morning everyone! Finn, Elanor, pottermom and Madam Pince, Thank you all so so much for your help. I have taken your ideas and come up with a few options for him. I designed one for him and one for both of us to get. The one for him is an American Flag with eagle's wings coming up from behind it. "fortes et liber" is written under the flag. If my translation is correct, it should read "strong and free". Pottermom and Madam Pince, I like you ideas of the eagles and flags for a military man. The other one used a few older symbols for strength and freedom,(ensipred by Elanor) wings and an "s" shape. This one is more tribal looking, and will have the phrase Finn gave me (nec mors nos separabit) over the top of it. I really hope he likes them, because we're going to have to go get them either today or tomorrow. When I finally get a scanner I'll have to scan the designs in so you guys can see them. Again, thank you so much for all your help!

I loved the story about the giant squid. It hasn't been on the news around here yet, but I'll keep checking. All you DIGS activists out there must be excited.

Well, time for me to head to class. Thanks again everyone!



Catherine - Sep 28, 2005 11:14 am (#758 of 2980)

And was Regis really cool to meet up in person—Finn

I did the show with Meredith Viera.


kaykay1970 - Sep 28, 2005 1:32 pm (#759 of 2980)

This is kind of unbelieveable. My child brought home literature on why you shouldn't do meth. It says why would you want to put these poisons in your body? Then it goes on to list the ingredients. Ok don't do this but here is the recipe. That is crazy! Anyway, the pamphlet says your average life expectancy if taking meth is like 5 years. Looking at this list one has to wonder how it you can live through the first try.


Chemyst - Sep 28, 2005 1:40 pm (#760 of 2980)

Madame Pince, You'd wanted to know about scale on the photo of the giant squid?

Well, aside from it being fish, not squid that have scales...  Oh, nevermind. I ran across this on yahoo:
The team led by Tsunemi Kubodera, from the National Science Museum in Tokyo, tracked the 26-foot long Architeuthis as it attacked prey nearly 3,000 feet deep off the coast of Japan's Bonin islands.   More


Stephanie M. - Sep 28, 2005 2:10 pm (#761 of 2980)

Hey everyone! I just read 37 posts and I have to make this quick because I have so much homework!

It must have been so cool to have been on Millionaire!!!

The giant squid looks so cool.

Happy Birthday everyone!!!

Ydnam96, I hope you feel better!! And I'm sorry about your friends two year old! I wish James all the best!

I like the dryer with the key idea!

Madam Pince, I'll keep an eye out for Mr. Pince next week!

Um, I think that was all that I wanted to say. If I'm forgetting something, then I'm very sorry!

Adios for now!


Finn BV - Sep 28, 2005 2:56 pm (#762 of 2980)

I did the show with Meredith Viera. –Catherine

Ah, oh, well. That is still very impressive!

Jenn, those sound like great tattoos. The second phrase I gave you, althought it begins with "nor," is just the way Latin quotes that in English translate to "neither" must start off.

DiGS supporters rejoice! I'm sure when I make it down to that thread the post count will be way up…

Off to homework!


dizzy lizzy - Sep 28, 2005 3:50 pm (#763 of 2980)

Well the news that the DIGS theory is alive and well finally arrived at my local paper today! Yay!!!!



timrew - Sep 28, 2005 3:58 pm (#764 of 2980)

Okay, I now know what duct tape is.............

And when is someone going to let me out of this dryer!?


Stephanie M. - Sep 28, 2005 4:03 pm (#765 of 2980)

I think Finn already let you out. Because I remember you taking a breath.

Off to eat dinner and finish my homework that is going a lot more quickly than I thought it would.


Finn BV - Sep 28, 2005 4:06 pm (#766 of 2980)

Tim, see my post Finn BV, "-- Chat and Greeting Thread for Members" #731, 27 Sep 2005 5:06 pm.

I wouldn't be so cruel.


Madam Pince - Sep 28, 2005 4:07 pm (#767 of 2980)

A 26-foot squid! Heavens! I'd not like to meet him while snorkeling!

Jenn, this is a bit late, I suppose, but I heard back from my cousin the Latin teacher. This is her take on it: (odd that it's different from Finn's teacher's; I guess Latin is pretty nebulous in how you can translate it)

Death = mors or letum (both just "death")...also, obitus ("a going away" or "a destruction") and nex ("violent death"). I chose letum because it sounded better...felt we needed more than a single syllable after the 'ne'...so ne quidem = "not even" letum = "death" seiungere potest = "is able to separate" nos = "us"

Therefore, Ne quidem letum seiungere potest nos.

Don't change the word order from the original quote.

So anyway, don't know if that helps, but there you go.


Finn BV - Sep 28, 2005 4:12 pm (#768 of 2980)

Madam Pince, my Latin teacher didn't translate it directly, he did the best to "go with the flow" of how a person speaking Latin would say it.


kaykay1970 - Sep 28, 2005 4:15 pm (#769 of 2980)

My daughter came home today and said I need to buy her a plastic sand shovel for the donkey ball game. I told her there is no way she can clean up after a donkey with a little plastic shovel. I asked her why they are not letting them use the big metal dustpan on a long stick scooper thingy they always use. She says because they don't want to scratch the gym floor with it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 10 donkeys running around are definitely going to scratch the floor! At least this is not as bad as the meth recipe my 8 year old brought home from elementary school. Do you all think this is crazy? Maybe I am exaggerating because I am sick and feverish today.


Madam Pince - Sep 28, 2005 4:19 pm (#770 of 2980)

LOL, kaykay! At the donkey games I've seen, they have the donkeys wear these little "shoe" thingys that supposedly help to protect the floor. I don't know, though -- that was many moons ago!

Why is Tim still going around...and around...and around...???


timrew - Sep 28, 2005 4:40 pm (#771 of 2980)

Okay, Finn. Sorry! Missed that one.........

And sorry, Madam Pince, for going around........and around......


kaykay1970 - Sep 28, 2005 5:05 pm (#772 of 2980)

Ok I figured out a compromise. I let my daughter have my large plastic dustpan if she promises not to bring it back! Anyway I took some Nyquill so I am off to bed. I always have weird dreams when I take that stuff. But I usually feel better in the morning. Strange. Anyway I'm trying to get all thoughts of my beautiful girl dressed in denim overalls and green plaid shirt,pig tails, and painted freckles carrying a little plastic shovel toward a large pile out of my head.


Viola Intonada - Sep 28, 2005 8:30 pm (#773 of 2980)

Betty, we will be home Oct. 14-16. Cleveland Museum of Natural History is having an Archaeology Day on the 15th and the girls have soccer games of the 16th, so please give me a call so we can get together.

Thank you, everyone, for the birthday wishes. I have to say that I think this has been my best birthday yet. (Which reminds me, I will have to update my personal file here) My oldest made me breakfast this morning and dinner this evening, with help from Hubby, of course. The best part of the day is that I am now enjoying visiting the Forum while lying on the couch with my brand new Mac laptop! I'm so excited. Hopefully I will be able to visit more often now. (Previous computer situation: 8 year-old Mac and 5 year-old PC) It is so wonderful not to have to wait what seemed a life time for pages to download, and half the time the pages would error and would have to download them again.

I have missed so many great topics lately!!!

Tomorrow is my daughter's birthday. Yep, we like to keep things simple in this family. Oldest daughter was born the day after my birthday and youngest was born two days before Hubby's. That is why we only have two children, we are out of birthdays! :goofygrin:

Oh, another thing that made today so great is that normally I have to spend my birthday cleaning the house for my daughter's birthday party the next day. This year we are not having it at home. Yeah!!

Ladybug, do you live in NorthEast Ohio? I have come across the twins named Lemonjello and Orangejello many times here, or have they moved out of Ohio?


Ydnam96 - Sep 28, 2005 11:43 pm (#774 of 2980)

Madame Pince, how do the shoes work...I would hope the have pretty good tread on them so the donkeys don't fall...

My real question is why they do this inside?? When I was in HS we had some wierd thing where you could "buy" a square foot of the football field. Then they would feed a poor cow a brightly colored pocker chip and put him/her out on the field. If the cow "deposited" the chip in "your" square then you won half of the money that was raised from selling the plots of field. I never quite understood who made up that game or why they would subject the cow to digesting a piece of plastic or why people would wait around for hours until the cow did it's business...Strange Strange...


The giant squid - Sep 29, 2005 2:09 am (#775 of 2980)

The giant squid looks so cool.--Stephanie M.

Thank you, thank you very much.

KayKay, I love how their drug "prevention" plan works...if only my Sex Ed class had had similar pamphlets.



kaykay1970 - Sep 29, 2005 4:38 am (#776 of 2980)

Ok. Here's my weird Nyquill dream. Something about a guy named Albus something or other constructing a life-size version of a giant squid using nothing but duct tape and zip ties. Sorry, couldn't resist. Actually I slept pretty good last night.


Ticker - Sep 29, 2005 5:19 am (#777 of 2980) Reply
Edited by Sep 29, 2005 5:19 am

Happy Birthday Viola!

It's way too early for me to be up so I'm going to go do something constructive, like polish my DIGS pin. Sigh... they say when you lose someone you love, you start "seeing" them all over the place.


Marie E. - Sep 29, 2005 5:33 am (#778 of 2980)

Awwwww...that's sweet, Ticker. Now I'll start seeing squids everywhere.


kaykay1970 - Sep 29, 2005 5:59 am (#779 of 2980)

I was browsing a Final Fantasy Forum and they had a link to video footage of the giant squid. Some guy over there is speculating that it is Sin from Final Fantasy X. How silly of him!



Madam Pince - Sep 29, 2005 6:18 am (#780 of 2980)

kaykay, thanks for that link! Oh, poor giant squid! It lost a tentacle while trying to get away! Of course, clearly Dumbledore just pulled a "Pettigrew" and apparated away...

Better watch out, Mike, the article said that those scientist guys are actively trying to capture giant squids to raise them in captivity! (By the way, LOL on the sex ed pamphlets!)

Mandy, I don't really know how those donkey shoes work -- I never got close enough to examine them. I agree, though, I'd hope they had really good treads on them! And I don't know why they don't just put little "diaper" thingys on the donkeys -- they can do that for horses, can't they? (Unless, maybe it's part of the "funny" to have the donkeys "go" on the floor...) I was sure I'd seen something similar on show horses. Where is TBE? She'd know...

Tim, so glad you're out of the dryer. Hope you didn't get too dizzy! (A girlfriend of mine was actually put in a dryer by her brother when they were little kids -- she did it voluntarily because they thought it looked like fun. )

Woo-Hoo on the new computer, Viola! That's a great birthday!

I was watching the tape I made of "Amazing Race" the other night, and I realized I got bonus -- a trailer for "GoF"! It has some scenes I haven't seen yet, but I haven't gone back and slow-motioned through them yet. That will be something to look forward to for this evening!

All I can say about last night's "Lost" episode -- WOW! That is really a good show -- excellent cliffhangers. My hand still hurts, though, from where I punched the chair arm and yelled "Nooooooo!" when I heard the end music and the word LOST floated onto the screen.... Arrrggghhhh! What a place to end it! Can't wait til next week!


Madam Pince - Sep 29, 2005 7:45 am (#781 of 2980)

Jenn, ack! I just realized I messed up my cousin's Latin translation by moving a word! (I missed the top line of her post when I cut-n-pasted, and then I put together my own summary which was WRONG! I flip-flopped the "letum" and the "quidem") Oops! Hope you haven't used it in a design! The correct translation that my cousin gave me should've been:

Ne letum quidem nos seiungere potest =not even death can separate us; and..."ne letum quidem" = not even death


***crosses fingers and hopes tattoo hasn't been done yet!!!***


kaykay1970 - Sep 29, 2005 7:56 am (#782 of 2980)

Madame Pince One has to wonder what part of Dumbledore's anatomy will he be missing! How many tentacles does a squid have? Dumbledore only has two legs. Perhaps it will be a toe!

I am going to be missing the ball game tonight. I am still running a slight fever and don't want to expose anyone. I am giving my ticket to my oldest son. He is in high school and can fully appreciate his friend across road being outsmarted by a donkey. Anyway I wished they could all go. I didn't have enough money this week for the tickets. I don't feel as bad about as I did. My daughter corrected me that the St. Jude fundraiser is a separate project for later in the year. Tonight they are raising funds for Beta Convention. If I have to pay extra for her stay in the Opryland Hotel I can live with that.

If my girl is smart she will pass her scooper duties off to her little brother for a more supervisory job. After all, what are little brothers for.


azi - Sep 29, 2005 8:25 am (#783 of 2980)

I loved that squid story! I definitely think that it helps our DIGS theory considerably.

Latin tatoos sound cool. I'd have one if I could think what to write. I'd probably go for a word like 'leprechaun' or something, knowing me. Simple.

Happy birthday Viola! (Or belated birthday, I lose track of days...)

KayKay, that drug prevention plan is stupid! Good thing most students don't bother to read them, at least at my age. Good to put in the recycling bin though...

Today has been boring on my end. Cold, rainy, windy and cloudy weather, lots of paperwork and only a lemon and white chocolate muffin to eat all day...On the plus side, I get my braces off on the 19th December! Then I have a retainer for at least a year.

I did get over-excited and squealed when I saw the last in the Bartimaeus Trilogy in Ottakars plus a new signed book by Marcus Sedgewick. Naturally, I bought them before Ottakars could take the offers off them. There are also three other books I want to buy, but I decided spending so much on books in one day was not a good idea!

Everyone have a brilliant day!


Thora - Sep 29, 2005 8:56 am (#784 of 2980)

One would assume that losing a tentacle while in animagi form would blacken one's wand hand....

But seriously speaking I feel so bad for the poor thing. You'd think they wouldn't have baited an object that could hurt the animal they wanted to photograph. The video said it was caught on the hook for 4 hours!

Sometimes muggle science is so cruel.



CatherineHermiona - Sep 29, 2005 10:04 am (#785 of 2980)

Oh, what a terrible thing happend today. Terrible, terible, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My homeroom teacher is going away. My English teacher is going away. Two teachers I like the most. We are unlucky class: first homeroom teacher we had was with us first two weeks, second one few months, third one half a year, this one a year. Every single one was great theacher. Oh, you can't imagine how sad I was. I cried and cried and cried and cried......................


kaykay1970 - Sep 29, 2005 10:06 am (#786 of 2980)

If I am fever free tommorrow I will be attending our town's Appreciation Days over the weekend. Tommorrow night kicks it off. My daughter's drama club will be providing various skits for the occasion. Among other things she will be portraying Ricky Lake, a contestant on American idol and a zombie in thier own little Michael Jackson Thriller video. Then on Saturday the adults of our town take the stage in their own Hee-Haw show. Sometimes they have a skit where that rounder bellied men of our town participate in. They wear a huge felt cowboy hat that covers their entire head and paint a large face on their chest and belly. While the theme song of the Andy Griffith Show plays they will continually contract their abdominal muscles to make it appear as though their belly buttons are actually doing the whistling. The description does not do this justice. If they do in fact have this skit I will try to make ya'll a link to the video I intend to take. You really need a visual on this one. I hope that Saturday morning the Ft. Cambell paratroopers will be there. This is always a favorite of my 11 year old son. I haven't heard if they will be able to come this year.


Good Evans - Sep 29, 2005 11:48 am (#787 of 2980)

sorry to hear you're news Kate, poor you. never mind maybe the new teachers will be just as nice????

hope you feel better soon KayKAy - that cold/fever has been hanging around a few days now hasn't it!

Azi - WOOHOO the final Bartemaeus trilogy is out - I shall prod hubby adn remind him it is on my xmas list - so he can go and get it early!!!

Julie x


azi - Sep 29, 2005 11:57 am (#788 of 2980)

Julie - I'm reading it now and loving every minute! I was in hysterics on the bus earlier, think I got a few weird looks! For your hubby's instructions - it's a red colour and called Ptolemy's Gate.

Kate, I'm sure if your next teacher follows the pattern you'll get another nice one! Hopefully you will! I had 4 different tutor teachers in high school when I was only supposed to have 1. Two were ok, because they let the class run rampant instead of making us do reading time and 2 were horrible because they wouldn't let us do anything except what the headteacher said, like reading the Daily Bulletin from top to bottom and thinking about the Quote of the Day. Not nice.

Kaykay, the weekend sounds interesting! I guess you have community spirit round where you live?


Good Evans - Sep 29, 2005 12:05 pm (#789 of 2980)

Thanks for that Azi, oh I cant wait - of course it is called "ptolomy's gate", it had to go back to that time didnt it!! - ooh can't wait - how long to Christmas???


Madam Pince - Sep 29, 2005 12:44 pm (#790 of 2980)

Oh, CatherineHermiona, I am so sorry that you are losing two of your favorite teachers! All that turnaround, it's almost as if it were a DADA class, isn't it? Well, as Azi says, if they follow pattern, then your next one should be good too, so hopefully that will console you some. (((hugs)))

I Googled some sites for donkey basketball. In the photos, I saw no pictures of the donkey "boots" like I remembered from years ago, but one site said the donkeys are shod with "non-marking rubber shoes." There were also several sites which said that donkey ball is illegal in many states because of anti-animal-cruelty laws. They said the donkeys are shipped around from school to school, spend most of their lives shut up in horse trailers, and are ridden by inexperienced riders who are often too heavy for the small donkeys and who may "mistreat" the animals without realizing they are doing so - by pulling too hard on the reins or by kicking or whatever. I hadn't thought of that but I suppose it's possible. Let's hope not!


Good Evans - Sep 29, 2005 12:49 pm (#791 of 2980)

the idea of donkey baseketball - sounds hilarious, but I have to say my concern is for the animals, not a natural past time and probably not that much fun... sorry to be a wet blanket - but I kind of like donkeys, no one would normally put them as a particular favourite animal, I think its an eeyore thing......toddles of to pooh corner....


Finn BV - Sep 29, 2005 2:32 pm (#792 of 2980)

Kate, I'm so sorry your favorite teacher is leaving… I'm sure you'll like the next one just as much, even better!

Kaykay, work on that cold! Have a fun time in your town this weekend.

So… our first Cross-Country meet was today… and… I placed first! I really am still in shock. Last year my best finish was 6th, and on average 13. There were 130 boys in the race (girls run separately sometimes). I started off third, then passed the second place person, and when I passed the person in first place and he didn't try to catch me, I knew I had it! I think I won by about 50 yards. My time was 10:42 for a 1.5 mile race with hills. I am really, really, happy! Off to celebrate…… **does dance**

By the way, anybody seen Dame Peverell lately?


haymoni - Sep 29, 2005 3:31 pm (#793 of 2980)

Congrats, Finn! Good for you!

I've been pretty quiet on the threads lately because I have been studying my hindquarters off for a test.

I am trying to earn my CEBS - Certified Employee Benefits Specialist. It is the equivalent to having your Masters in Benefits Administration. There are 10 agonizing tests. Today I passed my 4th one!

Whoo Hoo!

I get to put the initals "GBA" after my name - "Group Benefits Associate" - I still have to take the Retirement Section and the Compensation Sections - 6 more tests, but I'm happy tonight!

No more pencils! No more books! Until I get the books for the next test, that is!

Does "Happy Dance" w/ Finn...


Stephanie M. - Sep 29, 2005 4:29 pm (#794 of 2980)


I really wish I stayed to see that!!! (I went to the meet but had to leave because my bus was leaving a little after 4 and I left the meet at 4:01 and ran up the hill with my backpack to make the bus. And Finn, you were right it does take 3 minutes to get back to school, except it probably took me longer because there was a cross in the road and I wasn't sure if I should go strait or make a right... I went strait and got to school!!)

I'm so happy for you Finn! (My new theory is that people with the most spirit do the best in the event/game they are doing.)

*Starts doing the happy dance with Finn because he probably is still dancing*

And Finn, we are on the same wave length because I was also wondering about Dame Peverell and before you posted your message I searched to see when Dame was last on. I think it was Sept. 19.

I'm off to finish my homework! (I really should have stayed... *hangs head*)


Soul Mate for Sirius - Sep 29, 2005 4:47 pm (#795 of 2980)

Hey everyone! Wow did this week fly by. I can't wait for the weekend.

Finn, congrats on winning your race! That's awesome!

Madame Pince. Thanks for the translation. I saw your correction in time! We're going tomorrow to get them.

Well...I actually have time to go out tonight, so I'm off to get ready.



Ydnam96 - Sep 29, 2005 11:10 pm (#796 of 2980)


All I can say is WOW.


Good Evans - Sep 30, 2005 12:02 am (#797 of 2980)

**Takes Finn by the hand and dances a happy jig*** that is very impresive, I did the race for life this year in 36 minutes which is 5 km. So i am dead impressed with your time, well done you.

haymoni - I am intrigued, which country are you in? I haven't heard of that exam but I work in benefits in the UK and our "equivalent" is the IRRV (Institute of Revenues, Rating and Valuation corporate exams) which includes benefits, but I think your exams are slightly more detailed than ours. Anyhow - best of luck on those exams, I can empathise !!!!!


Essidji - Sep 30, 2005 4:07 am (#798 of 2980)

Hi everyone. It's been such a long time since my last post... My job is killing me (but I love it anyway, so it's fine). But I miss you all, I wish I had more time to sneak in...

Just a few words to say that, this night, "Harry Potter et le prince de Sang-Mêlé" will be released in France. It seems a long time to translate HBP, but I believe it's worth, because the books Mr Ménard translated so far are very well written.

All the medias talk about this today. To summarize, they say the series has given (back) the taste of reading to children, hooking at the same time children, teenagers, and even some adults (hey, that's me!).

And I don't know if it's scheduled on purpose, but Yahoo France has also released a new trailer for GOF.

Edit : well, thinking twice about it, two months and a half between the release of the English version and the French one is a pretty fast job! I apologize Mr Ménard...


azi - Sep 30, 2005 5:51 am (#799 of 2980)

I always wanted to buy the HP books in French. I wouldn't be able to understand them well, but it would be fun. I don't want to buy them over the Internet though because I would prefer to visit France and buy them. Like I have with the German version.

Well done Finn! I don't do exercise and the last time I did cross country it was in a thunderstorm with torrential rain and I came something like 116 out of 119. Mind you, there was humour when the two people in front of me slipped on the mud and fell over each other, leaving me to run straight between them.

Congrats Haymoni! My mum also used to work with benefits and stuff, but she never had to take evil exams to do it! The topics don't sound that interesting either, which makes learning it all so much worse!

I was so busy reading my book (Ptolemy's Gate) that I didn't go to sleep until 5.30am today. Then I was up 2 1/2 hours later. Feel fine now, but think I'll be dead by late afternoon. It was a good book though, well worth the reading!


Mrs. Sirius - Sep 30, 2005 6:27 am (#800 of 2980)

Edit : well, thinking twice about it, two months and a half between the release of the English version and the French one is a pretty fast job! I apologize Mr Ménard...

Essidji, it is never fast enough when you want to get your hands on a copy of a Harry Potter book.

By the way and early happy anniversary to the Lex, to Steve, Kip, Denise et all. I always remember because you share a date with my triplets.
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Loopy Lupin - Sep 30, 2005 7:24 am (#801 of 2980)

Congrats Finn! Well, I hope everyone has a great weekend. The countdown to GoF is clicking down. I'm all a dither!


kaykay1970 - Sep 30, 2005 7:34 am (#802 of 2980)

Congrarulations Finn and Haymoni!!!

azi If you think my town has interesting activities you'll love this. I finally picked up a paper so I could have a schedule of this weekends events. Apparently another town very near here is having their first annual goat beauty contest and antique tractor show! They are giving prizes for most beautiful goat and ugliest goat. Amazing the things we think of to keep ourselves amused.

I am feeling alot better today, no fever anyway. I wonder why we adults feel so bad with a low grade fever and the children run around playing all day with 103 temp.


azi - Sep 30, 2005 7:49 am (#803 of 2980)

A goat beauty contest? Wow, that's weird! I take it the area has a high goat population? The tractor show I can cope with - I've spent half my life being dragged to steam rallies. Where I live there are not many community events as I'm in a small village which comprises of a shop, pub and church. It's not that isolated though, since there are 3 more villages a mile down the road in different directions. No one in the village really mixes so there isn't much community spirit. Ah well...

Nice to know your fever has disappeared!

Everybody have a great day!


Catherine - Sep 30, 2005 8:46 am (#804 of 2980)

Hi, everyone.

I am sneaking on the Forum from school. It's my last day at school being in the classroom with the kids full-time, so I feel a little sad. We had a fun class, though. I showed my goofy Millionaire video, and they really enjoyed it. Can I tell you that the entire 7th grade (33 students) ate 8 dozen doughnuts??? I was amazed at their ability to pack away food.

One of my students in the other class gave me a card and a gift certificate to Barnes and Noble. I almost cried at the end of class.

Loopy Lupin--I'm in a dither about GoF, too! :waves:


kaykay1970 - Sep 30, 2005 9:17 am (#805 of 2980)

I do not know anyone personally who owns a goat. I doubt the popularity of a goat beauty contest myself. We already have a category for goats at the county fair livestock judging competition. I doubt the local farmers will think that a "beauty contest" is a serious competition. But who knows. Maybe I will find out next year if they announce the second annual event.


Elanor - Sep 30, 2005 9:38 am (#806 of 2980)

LOL, whenever you come on this thread there is something funny in the air! **hoping we'll see pictures of the goat beauty contest**

Congratulations Finn! That is great! I love watching sports but always hated doing one so I am always amazed to see the others' results! I remember well sports at school, when I was walking instead of running each time the teacher wasn't looking in my direction and the fact that I was always in the last ones chosen when we were doing teams. Well, I didn't blame them! Since the day I received a ball in the glasses I've been afraid of footballs (for soccer), basket or other handballs and used to step aside instead of fighting for the ball...

I have to do a bit of sport now, for my back, but I still don't like it. So, most of the time, I just do some exercise bike at home, chosing carefully the music I hear while doing it so to cheer me up. From my experience, there is nothing better than a good Star Wars battle theme for pedaling at a good rythm, though some HP Quidditch themes are not bad either. In short, John Williams is my personal coach!

Congratulations too Haymoni!

Essidji! That is so great to "see" you again! Yes, we're going to have a very HP night here today. I was actually pleasantly surprised to hear that more than 100 000 English copies of the HBP have been sold in France since July! I don't read the books in French anymore but I'm really happy for those who will discover it tonight.

Have a great day everybody! **healing charms to those who need them too** Weekend has just started here! Youpi!!!!!


Ydnam96 - Sep 30, 2005 9:57 am (#807 of 2980)

Just popping in to say hello. Finn, great job! I hate exercise...which would be why none of my clothes fit they way they used to Smile

Happy Birthday Lexicon. How many years now?

I'm still sick. This is one nasty cold (if that's what it is). It has settled in my throat and I have a nasty cough and a very sore throat. But, life must continue sick or not. Luckily I only have to be at work for 4 hours today (Unlike yesterday which went from 9:15-4:00 then 6:00-9:00). I'm so glad the weekend is here again, but I'm on call this weekend so hopefully there are no emergencies because I'm the one who has to respond. Haha...that will be interesting.

Goat beauty contests? Is that what Aberforth got in trouble for?? Sounds fishy to me. I wonder if there is a Goat Equality League or something that could come in and protect the poor goats who get chosen as ugliest.

So we haven't heard from Puck lately (that I recall) which is understandable....but after all the work we put in trying to get baby Puck into the world Wink I'm hoping she's doing well.

Okay I neeed to drag myself to the shower and get ready for work. Happy Friday everyone. And...happy Alias/Lost season for those of us in the US. It's gonna be great. (I promise not to spoil for those in other countries who get it a bit later than us).


Esther Rose - Sep 30, 2005 11:08 am (#808 of 2980)

I am still tearing over the loss of Joan of Arcadia. =(


Loopy Lupin - Sep 30, 2005 11:38 am (#809 of 2980)

Hey Catherine! ***waves***

Sheesh today is one boring day at work. Lots of waiting around today. I hate waiting.


Viola Intonada - Sep 30, 2005 12:17 pm (#810 of 2980)

Believe it or not, Loopy, I am kind of envious of you for having a boring day at work. The preschoolers this year are really keeping me on my toes. The best way to describe the class is that we have several very boyish boys. There is never a dull moment.

Happy reading to everyone reading the French version tonight! I bought "Harry Potter a L'ecole des Sorciers" when I was in France a couple of years ago. I never got past translating the first page, my French is way too rusty. Maybe someday...

Have a great weekend, everyone!


Thora - Sep 30, 2005 12:26 pm (#811 of 2980)

And...happy Alias/Lost season for those of us in the US. It's gonna be great.-Ydnam96

If we don't all keel over from the suspense of Lost. The last two episode endings have left me quite agitated.

I wonder if they'd send me this season's scripts if I told them the wait was bad for my nerves?

Well at least JKR doesn't feed it to us chapter by chapter. Though come to think of it, I would happily subsist upon antacids for a year if she did.... sigh.... waiting.



Amilia Smith - Sep 30, 2005 1:38 pm (#812 of 2980)

Well at least JKR doesn't feed it to us chapter by chapter.

Charles Dickens did that. And now you know why Dickens makes such great movies (lots of cliffhangers) but rather dull reading (always having to repeat what happened in last week's issue).

How are you doing, Thora? Have you moved yet?

I got to go stand behind the reference desk this morning and Observe. It was really very interesting. And surprisingly busy for first thing Friday morning.



Finn BV - Sep 30, 2005 2:42 pm (#813 of 2980)

Can I tell you that the entire 7th grade (33 students) ate 8 dozen doughnuts??? –Catherine

Sheesh! And I thought the 4 dozen for 21 students in 5th Grade was a lot (I only ate one doughnut, of course… ).

Congrats, Haymoni, GBA!

Right, isn't tomorrow the Forum's fourth birthday? **checks top right corner of page** Oops, third birthday. Happy BDay! And tomorrow is Julie Andrews' 70th birthday! How cool! (Julie=childhood (and still) idol ::sigh:Smile

Thanks for the congrats, everyone. I found out today that no Middle School boy from our school had ever placed first before, so I was quite elated the whole day.

It's Friday!!


Stephanie M. - Sep 30, 2005 2:53 pm (#814 of 2980)

That's really good Finn!!! Was that your best time you ever had?

Happy Birthday Forum! (Is it today or tomorrow?) Happy early birthday Julie Andrews!

Talking about people eating a lot of food... I feel like I have eaten so much today! I think it's because I have been swimming so much lately and whenever I swim I usually get really hungry.

I think that's all I was going to say. This week wasn't very good. I have has a ton of work to do and things started to get better Thursday around lunch time. AND NOW IT'S FRIDAY!!! But this weekend will be pretty busy because I have 2 tests and a quiz on Monday.


timrew - Sep 30, 2005 4:25 pm (#815 of 2980)

kaykay1970:- I doubt the popularity of a goat beauty contest myself.

I, personally, would look forward to the bikini section, and the interview...............

Yes, I would like to eat grass; and those trainers; and the entire contents of that washing-line.........Oh! And I'm forgetting my struggle for World Peace!


The giant squid - Sep 30, 2005 5:01 pm (#816 of 2980)

I was amazed at their ability to pack away food.—Catherine

NEver underestimate the teenager's ability to consume mass quantities. I used to eat everything in sight, and still maintain a svelte 100 pounds (I've since ballooned up to 110). My sisters hate me...



Catherine - Sep 30, 2005 5:23 pm (#817 of 2980)

I used to eat everything in sight, and still maintain a svelte 100 pounds (I've since ballooned up to 110). My sisters hate me... --Squid Mike

With good reason!

You are lucky I can't pull an Aunt Marge-esque ballooning charm...

We had a good day today. (Finn, I think my 7th graders "beat" your fifth grade class! ) I received a compliment that I did not expect from one of the veteran teachers, who told me she rolled her eyes when she heard I was "subbing" for the teacher on maternity leave, that she expected that I would never contribute to the department and would just "phone things in" because that is how substitutes act, in her opinion. She told that I had been "a real teacher" and that I had done a very good job. Praise from this person is rare indeed, and it came at a moment when I needed it.

I guess that good teachers can do that, and I learned something else today.

::waves back at Loopy Lupin because it is Friday:: Sheesh, isn't it time for GoF yet?


Madam Pince - Sep 30, 2005 6:48 pm (#818 of 2980)

Awwww, Catherine, that's sweet. Congratulations on a job well done -- substituting or not, you did a great job.

Finn, congratulations on your cross-country win! That is so fantastic!! An athlete who can write -- whoo-hoo!

Essidji, welcome back! We've missed you!

Hope all the exams go well, haymoni! Yuck... I hate exams....

Mandy, have you seen a doctor? If you've felt that yucky for a whole week, you should get checked out. Maybe it'll be something that a quick dose of antibiotic will knock out quickly. Usually my doctor hangs back on doing antibiotics too early (which I agree with -- no point in messing up immunities and all that) but he says if you're sick for more than a week, then you just really need to get better. I hope you feel better soon!

Glad you're doing better, kaykay!

Did anybody hear how Gina did on the vote for best impersonation? (on MuggleNet? or TLC?) Last I heard, I thought she was winning...

Happy Harry Potter Weekend to all of France!


Finn BV - Sep 30, 2005 6:54 pm (#819 of 2980)

Madam P – according to TLC, Gina came in second with 476 votes, behind only Karolina from Poland doing Luna.


haymoni - Sep 30, 2005 8:21 pm (#820 of 2980)

Catherine - never a doubt! You obviously connected with the kids and made a mark with the staff.

Of course, you know what this means, don't you??? You will be the most requested sub at that school! Everyone will want to have babies now that they know you are available.


kaykay1970 - Sep 30, 2005 8:41 pm (#821 of 2980)
Edited Sep 30, 2005 9:20 pm

We just got back from the Appreciation thing. Our drama club did a really good job. At the begining of the night my 8 year old did the cake walk thing. She was so upset that she didn't win a cake. At the end of the events however there was an electric scooter give away. I couldn't believe when they called her name. She is on top of the world! She hopped all the way to the car with a pack of fellow 3rd graders following behind.

Edit: Upon scanning the owner's manual for the scooter I discovered that it is not recommended for children under 12. She'll get there in 3 1/2 years!

I can't believe this. I just walked outside and my chow has totally been skunked again. This is like the 4th time in 3 months.
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Chemyst - Oct 1, 2005 5:03 am (#822 of 2980)

WooHoo & Hurray Haymoni !

Kaykay,   dear me... getting skunked seems to be common for members of this forum who live near their habitats. If you see Fred or George, you should ask them if they can't come up with some sort of a fix for that.

We never doubted you were a "real" teacher Catherine. You did one of the tough jobs of getting the routine discipline "launched" at the beginning of the year. Now the "real real" teacher will have a tough act to follow.  ...that was your plan all along, wasn't it? :sinistergrin:

Happy October everyone. Dawn is breaking here and it looks to be a spectacular day.


Thora - Oct 1, 2005 7:03 am (#823 of 2980)

Ameilia- The house hasn't sold yet, so we don't really mind that his boss bumped the departure date for my hubby back to November 1st. So if we sell the house in the next few weeks (not likely) I'll go with him. If not, well we're weighing the unpleasant options. I hate having my life up in the air, but luckily my friends have big hearts and sponge shoulders.

Julie=childhood (and still) idol- Finn   Wow, Speedy Gonzales is also very cool and has his priorities in line. Wicked.

My sisters hate me... - Squid Mike   . . .  and the ranks of your sisters swell. 110, that's so wrong.

Catherine- good for you!

Oh and speaking of skunks I've awoken to that pleasant aroma 3 times this week and was lucky not to be sprayed when I came home last night and startled one in my yard.



Stephanie M. - Oct 1, 2005 7:58 am (#824 of 2980)

You must be a great teacher Catherine! I have had really bad subs in the past. I had a French teacher sub for my math class in 6th grade... let's just say nobody did well on the quiz the day our math teacher came back.


Marie E. - Oct 1, 2005 8:28 am (#825 of 2980)

Yes, we both hate our brother. He was so thin as a teen that he couldn't get into the military. They have a minimum weight. Just so unfair!

Catherine, the validation from the veteran teacher must have felt so good. I get twinges of not being a "real" teacher occasionally since I teach private kindergarten at a daycare setting. It's become quite common here to have kindergarten at daycares. A local daycare, Junior Academy, actually has kindergarten through second grade.

Happy Birthday, Lexicon! I remember that first day there were only about six threads, and one was a Tell About Yourself sort. Is the original Tell About Yourself thread in the archives? I posted on October 2nd, 2002. Just imagine, my girls were three and five back then. Now they're the ripe ol' ages of six and eight. And back then Denise only had seven children!


Madam Pince - Oct 1, 2005 9:02 am (#826 of 2980)

Happy Birthday, Lexicon!

Phooey on Gina not winning. Hmmmph!


Kip Carter - Oct 1, 2005 10:36 am (#827 of 2980)

Marie E., thank you for remembering when the Harry Potter Lexicon Forum first began. I am putting together a new discussion thread to celebrate the start of our fourth year and a review of the last three years.

For everyone's information, Steve actually started this Forum on October 1, 2002; however it was not ready for posts until October 2nd. Even though today is the actual birthday, the celebration will continue for the following week for those who want to enjoy what Lexicon Steve created three years ago.

Please be patient while I put the page together and save your thoughts and ideas for the new thread. I will have it up later today around 6:00 p.m. PDT (Forum time). The thread will be located in this folder. In the meantime, start putting together your thoughts and what you would like to share with everyone.


Ydnam96 - Oct 1, 2005 12:33 pm (#828 of 2980)

So I'm still sick, bleh, but my best friend had her first baby this morning at 4 am Eastern time. Enrique was 4 weeks early and was born with a full head of hair. Mom sounded soo happy when I talked to her. I've got a grin that just won't go away. I'm sad though that I can't be there to share it with her. But still happy Smile

Happy Birthday Lexicon!!

Yay for the weekend Smile


Herm oh ninny - Oct 1, 2005 1:05 pm (#829 of 2980)

Hey Guys! I don't know if I have mentioned this, but my cousin and his wife are expecting their second child, a little boy. I am extra excited about this because they have asked me to be his Godmother!! Well, my aunt just called me and said that Melissa (the mother to be) is having contractions every 8 minutes!!! YAY!!! I am sooo excited I just had to tell someone!! I'm dancing around the house like a crazy person! LOL Well, I'm off to go do my first official Godmother duty! (Shopping for presents to bring to my new little godson at the hospital!)


Elanor - Oct 1, 2005 1:19 pm (#830 of 2980)

What wonderful news Mandy and Herm oh ninny! I'm really happy for you and your friends/cousins.

Happy birthday Lexicon! I can't wait to read the new thread!


Finn BV - Oct 1, 2005 1:34 pm (#831 of 2980)

Great news, Mandy and Herm oh ninny! Congrats and congrats-to-bes to the moms/moms-to-be.

Happy Birthday again, Lexicon. I'm looking forward to everybody's recollections of the first day.


boop - Oct 1, 2005 2:26 pm (#832 of 2980)


Everyone have a great weekend!!!

hugs always



haymoni - Oct 1, 2005 5:25 pm (#833 of 2980)

Who was it that had the friend who was pregnant and going off to be a missionary in South America some place???

Was that you, Mandy? Is this the friend?

Even if it isn't - Congrats!

And congrats to me! Fall baseball is over!!!

Slacker Moms Unite!!!!


Ydnam96 - Oct 1, 2005 5:43 pm (#834 of 2980)

No it wasn't me. I do remember someone talking about it though...

It seems to be baby season!


Amilia Smith - Oct 1, 2005 5:43 pm (#835 of 2980)

Thora, I am sending house selling charms your way. What do you suppose the incantation should be?



dizzy lizzy - Oct 1, 2005 6:04 pm (#836 of 2980)

Amilia: I will be sending you an email sometime today (Oz Time) over your request in the reccomended reading thread. I will send it via my worldcrossing account so you know who it is from .

Happy birthday lexicon - It must be pretty close to my anniversary on the forum too as I remember disscussing "banned books week" on the chat thread this time last year.



Amilia Smith - Oct 1, 2005 7:46 pm (#837 of 2980)

Thank you Lizzy! I might not be able to check my email again before Monday, so I am letting you know now how much I appreciate it. :-)



Eponine - Oct 1, 2005 8:39 pm (#838 of 2980)

I discovered today that I must have a really good 'dirty look.' Mr. Eponine and I went to see Serenity (really really good BTW) and there was this guy next to me who kept laughing at inappropriate moments and talking loudly to himself. It was a key moment in the movie, and I was so close to yelling at him to shut up when he looked at me and laughed as if I should laugh with him. I glared at him with the nastiest look I could manage, and apparently it worked because he was (mostly) quiet after that. I was rather proud of myself.

Happy Birthday, Lexicon Forum!


pottermom34 - Oct 1, 2005 8:46 pm (#839 of 2980)

Good for you Eponine, ther's nothing worse than rude jerks when trying to enjoy a movie.

Happy Birthday Lexicon, I've really enjoyed my few months here.


Finn BV - Oct 1, 2005 9:54 pm (#840 of 2980)

LOL Eponine.

Just got back from a Bar Mitzvah – it's 12:54 AM here. I've posted in the Happy BDay thread. Thanks for the times, HPLF!

Way too tired to say anything now, just good night.


Mrs. Sirius - Oct 1, 2005 11:03 pm (#841 of 2980)

By the way an early happy anniversary to the Lex, to Steve, Kip, Denise et all. I always remember because you share a date with my triplets.

I posted that early because I was away and didn't think I would return in time to post on the day. It's nearly 2:00 am here. The forum has taken me thru so much over these past 3 years. I was so afraid of the vile, nasty, evil, things that I had been warned about on the Internet. Finding the Lex I was wonderful, it was a safe place to discuss something I was passionate about.

Here I have learned about html codes, I've improved my writing and typing skills, I made and met friends and passed so many rough nights. When I first started, I said I would read the Lexicon only, I wouldn't go to the Forum, then I thought I would just read through the posts, but then I couldn't help but to join in some discussions. It took a long time before I worked up the nerve to join and post freely. Thanks guys, you've do good work.

timrew are you talking about whirled peas?


The giant squid - Oct 2, 2005 12:10 am (#842 of 2980)

He was so thin as a teen that he couldn't get into the military. They have a minimum weight.--Marie E.

It's true...I tried to join the Army Reserve between my junior & senior years in high school--for the college money, of course. The minimum weight for someone my height (5'6") was 104 lbs. No problem, right? At the weigh-in for the physical I topped out at 95. Personally, I consider it a sign from above; I'd have hated it in the Army anyway. I'm too independent for the military lifestyle.



Ydnam96 - Oct 2, 2005 1:06 am (#843 of 2980)

Mike, I think my left leg weighs 95 lbs.


Lina - Oct 2, 2005 6:34 am (#844 of 2980)

There have been several birthdays lately, so to all that I've missed and a special (belated as well) one for the Sirius triplets !

There have been several reasons to celebrate, too, so for all of you!

We have some virus problems at home at the moment. We had to go to the hospital two nights ago with the youngest (just on her name day) because of some digesting problems (better not to go into details) and she had to get the infusion. We were quite confused because we couldn't figure out what could she have eat that wouldn't make problems to anybody else. Now Kate is having the same problems, so we know it has nothing to do with food but I'm sure that she could use some of your healing and cheering charms that always work.

Good week to everyone!


  kaykay1970 - Oct 2, 2005 6:47 am (#845 of 2980)

Lina I hope your girls are better soon. And I hope Ydnam is feeling better already.


  Finn BV - Oct 2, 2005 7:45 am (#846 of 2980)

Mike, I think my left leg weighs 95 lbs.

LOL, yes, Mike, I don't consider myself obese at all and I rocketed off 95 lbs. in fourth grade. (Then again, I was overweight then, so I've lost quite a bit of weight since, but… 95 in high school? )

Lina and family, wellness charms to you all.

Yesterday, I came out of the Bar Mitzvah service and I was on Madison and 62nd. I was looking for my mom who was picking me up, and there were big white screens and lots of people huddled around that intersection. So as I was walking and looking for my mom, I heard a woman in charge ask us to keep moving – go across the street or move back down the block. So I opted for across the street and as I was walking I heard her say the names "Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway." I walked past all the director's chairs for the crew, and on the back were the words The Devil Wears Prada, which is apparently now due for a movie.

I found my mom and told her I really wanted to watch them film, so she waited for me and I stood on the corner. Then, when the Madison Ave. light was red, they yelled "Scene #" (couldn't hear the number), "Take 2, Action!" A yellow taxicab (the number of the cab began with 8Z if you ever go see the movie whenever it comes out) drove down 62nd, and Hathaway's stunt double, carrying orange Hermès bags, was "hit" by the cab. Her bags were thrown up in the air and she landed on the hood of the taxi. The driver got out to see if she was okay, and that was that. Cut. It was amazing! If you live in New York, check out to see if you can find the shooting locations, I hear they're all over the place, including Times Square. It was really cool!


Good Evans - Oct 2, 2005 10:38 am (#847 of 2980)

love and charms to kate and her siblings. Hope you are feeling better soon and that mum Lina isnt too worn out looking after and worrying!.

Hubby's birthday today so just a quick pop in. I must say how I laughed at TimRews original user name - Scambledeggs - just so him!!!!

Finn: that sounds so amzing - glad you had a good time


Stephanie M. - Oct 2, 2005 10:47 am (#848 of 2980)

Wow! That's really cool Finn! I should go check it out, even though they are probably not on 62nd and Madison any more. I really like Anne Hathaway... and I went to a swim meet with someone from Meryl Streep's family and Meryl Streep was watching us.

Mike, how tall are you? I weigh less than 95 pounds but I am barely 5 feet tall. My mom who is 5'4' weighed a little more than 85 pounds in college and then she weighed around 100 pounds when she first became pregnant with my sister. Now she is probably at an average weight and she grew and inch since college... hmm maybe I'll grow after college...

Lina I hope all of your children are feeling well!!


Denise P. - Oct 2, 2005 10:55 am (#849 of 2980)

I was 5'6" through high school. Less than 2 years after I graduated from High School, I was (and still am) 5'8". We won't discuss weight changes Razz


CatherineHermiona - Oct 2, 2005 11:16 am (#850 of 2980)

Hi, everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel so bad and I hardly left my bed. I won't go to school tomorrow and that's the only good side of my fever.

Anyway, let's talk about something better. I was in Trieste yesterday and I bought some shoes and CDs. My aunt had to bought her liquid for contact lenses and there can't be a visit to Trieste without new pair of shoes for her and sometimes for us too. She usually buys some Italian CDs and we are going around the shops and sometimes we buy something little. It was great. My aunt told we should be back until 2 p. m. and we came around 4, of course.

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Finn BV - Oct 2, 2005 11:26 am (#851 of 2980)

Kate, I hope you feel better. I'm glad you had a good outing in Trieste.

Happy Birthday Mr. Good Evans!

Edit: Off to see Corpse Bride (which I never did end up seeing two weeks ago)! I'll tell you about the trailer……


Elanor - Oct 2, 2005 11:34 am (#852 of 2980)

I really have trouble with measures and weights which are not in metric system but, thanks to you all, I think I'm making some progress!

In good old metric system, I am 1.65 meters tall, which, if I calculated correctly, must be something like 5'5", am I right? In high school, I was weighing something like 47 kg (103 pounds?) and, till I was 30, about 50 kg (110 pounds?), which I really liked. But then, I had to wear those awful surgical corsets for months, that prevented me from moving as I used to and brought me a few more pounds... **sigh** But I'm working on it! (a bit: I will never give up eating chocolate, it is a matter of principle, honestly! ). Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042

Anyway, to calculate that sort of scared me! It makes me feel much slimer to see my weight in kilos than in pounds.

Healings charms to you and your sister Kate! And to everyone else needing some too.


kaykay1970 - Oct 2, 2005 11:47 am (#853 of 2980)

When I was a junior in high school I weighed about 85 pounds and was about 4'11". Sometime in the summer before I started senior year I gained 10 pounds and grew to 5'4" which is my current height. I never truly put on any weight until I got pregnant with my third child. I am not even going to say how much. I had a hard time losing it and in fact never did until I had a really ugly strain of flu. I am generallly happy with my weight at the moment although losing a few pounds couldn't hurt. I will say that I had alot more health problems when I was underweight as opposed to overweight.


Madam Pince - Oct 2, 2005 12:50 pm (#854 of 2980)

CatherineHermiona, I enjoyed chatting with you in the Chat Room! Hope you are feeling much better soon! And I hope that nobody else in the family comes down with it! *waves to Lina!*

Congratulations to everyone who is celebrating the arrival of new babies! Yay! Herm-oh-ninny, you will be such a great godmother -- I'm sure you'll keep your little godchild well supplied with stuffed Hedwigs and Harry Potter books!

LOL on Eponine's icy glare! Are you sure you aren't related to a certain potions master?

Finn, that is so exciting! Movie filming is really neat to watch, isn't it? It so looks like nothing while they're doing it, and then when you see it on-screen it's amazing!

I'm having a hard time picturing you in military fatigues, Squid Mike, so you're right -- it was probably for the best! When I was young, my aunt and uncle kept nurturing the hope that I would attend the Naval Academy for some reason (silly them!) I dutifully went on all the campus tours that they took me on, but they finally got the clue that there was absolutely no way I would make it there -- zero upper-arm strength for one thing, and an inability to follow orders unquestioningly for another. And I wonder why Little Pince doesn't listen to me....wonder where on earth he gets it?  :goofygrin:

I'll go along with you kaykay on the weight thing -- I'm generally happy I guess, although I really should lose a few. I can tell I need to because I am really stretching it to fit into my Civil War dresses for my once-a-year "living history" foray (which is coming up in two weeks.) I've invested a lot of money into outfits that are made to fit your waist like a second skin to begin with, so there is NO extra room in there. Since Little Pince, I can still get into them (well, all except one) but it is something of a struggle, and not very comfortable. Sigh... I suppose I should go check again to be sure I can still fasten the hooks before the weekend comes... ***is NOT looking forward to this test***

OK, so Tuesday night at 9:00pm Eastern U.S. time is when the episode of "The Amazing Race" airs which may have Mr. Pince in it. I have put a link on my profile page which shows his picture, in case anybody wants to look for him! He will be a Union officer, and was standing very near the Union flagbearer during the filming.


kaykay1970 - Oct 2, 2005 4:02 pm (#855 of 2980)

Madame Pince Your living history foray reminds me of some friends of ours. Actually it is my oldest daughter's best friend's family. The father always does these civil war reinactments. He used to be the tour guide/park ranger at Shiloh National Park. They attend some kind of ball every year where they must dress in civil period costumes.

My daughter has a field trip to Loretta Lynn's Dude Ranch on Friday. They are visiting the museum. I don't know if they are having their civil war reinactment this week-end but that is generally when they try to schedule school trips. Last time I went with my son Loretta Lynn actually came out and visited the children. Of course none of them knew who she was but we parents really enjoyed it.


Denise P. - Oct 2, 2005 4:51 pm (#856 of 2980)

Since this town was occupied by the Yankees for most of the Civil War, we obviously have a lot of Civil War reinactors around. Fort Donelson is right by here and they have a fairly decent sized "battle" each year. We had a group come talk to our Cub Scouts last year, it was very cool. They brought hardtack for us to try and it was very interesting for the parents to talk to the woman who was with them. Down near Nashville, they have even larger battles during the year.

I have friends active in SCA but their time period is Italian Renaissance.


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 2, 2005 6:32 pm (#857 of 2980)

They do a lot of Civil War reinacting in my area, as well, since I'm not that far from Gettysburg. I know a couple who were into it who got married in Civil War regalia. I'm also fairly certain, although I'm no buff, that the Confederate Army marched right by where I live on their way to Gettysburg. They approached from the north, if I remember correctly.


Mrs. Sirius - Oct 2, 2005 9:22 pm (#858 of 2980)

The best way to see your weight is in stones. When I was in London I didn't mind getting on a scale, I weighed about 9 1/2 stones,(that is the heaviest I had ever been). My height is scary, I think I am either 172 or 176 centimeters.

Oh saw the GoF that aired tonight, no spoiler here but it was really cool. It was a bonus because I just happened to walk into the room and the television was on.


The giant squid - Oct 3, 2005 1:02 am (#859 of 2980)

Okay, for the Metric folks: I am about 163 cm tall (5'6") and weighed about 43kg when trying to enter the military and top out around 50kg now. I normally describe myself as "freakishly thin", although I don't look abnormal or anything. Maybe I just have hollow bones like a bird or something... And yes, the reactions you've all had ar the norm. I usually hear "I haven't weighed that since 5th grade!" a lot. How many (weight) pounds to one stone? I can really mess with people then...

Lina/Kate, I hope you & the rest of the family get well soon.

I've never seen an actual Civil War reenactment (not a lot of Civil War activity in North Dakota...and they don't usually reenact Custer's Last Stand for some reason ). I did however see an old Jeff Foxworthy Show episode where they decided to go "off script" and whup the Yankees' asses for once. That sounds like what I'd end up trying to do...if you're going to all the trouble, why not shake things up a little?



Snuffles - Oct 3, 2005 1:29 am (#860 of 2980)

Hey all!!

Haven't been able to get onto the Forum for a week, and 197 posts to read! I have skimmed alot so I apologise if I miss anything. Happy birthday to all celebrating, and cheering charms to anyone who needs them.

I would like to say welcome back Phoenix Song, I am so glad you are ok and I hope you get your home repaired as quickly as possible.

I did read the posts about peoples weight but I have absolutely no comment to make about my own!!!!

Happy Monday everyone.



CatherineHermiona - Oct 3, 2005 2:09 am (#861 of 2980)

Well, looking at your weights/heights makes me feel tall and fat because I'm 175.5 cm tall and my weight is 70 kilos now (AND I DON'T LOOK FAT!).



Marie E. - Oct 3, 2005 5:40 am (#862 of 2980)

Of course you're not fat, Kate. Don't compare yourself to my brother, please. He is "freakishly thin". Sadly, I was also until I hit puberty. I remember wearing girls size 7 pants when I was ten years old. I didn't hit 50 lbs until third grade (about eight and a half years old). My daughter Shayla has the "thin" gene now. She's eight and a half and only 53 lbs at 4ft 2inches. She and my six year old can almost share clothes.

Finn, I got to watch the filming of the 90's movie Now and Then. They filmed in Savannah, GA and in Statesboro, GA. My brother and I were living in Statesboro at the time. I saw part of the sewer drain rescue scene and a scene where they are riding their bikes up to the lbrary steps. I imagine in NYC you see a lot more movies being filmed.


Ydnam96 - Oct 3, 2005 5:44 am (#863 of 2980)

Oh to have been ever "freakishly thin"...

Alas, that is not my burden. My problem is I like food and I hate exercise. It's okay though. I can handle it.

So I'm up sick, again. (I was feeling better yesterday and went to a birthday party and probably overdid it) Bleh. But at least I have the forum to brighten me up while I'm awake!!

Have a great day everyone. I'm gonna try and go back to sleep.


Ladybug220 - Oct 3, 2005 6:30 am (#864 of 2980)

Hi all! I saw Serenity this weekend and it was really good. And this comes from someone that doesn't normally watch sci-fi stuff. Also, they showed the trailer for The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe and it looks like it is going to be great! I had seen the trailer online but it was nice to see it on the big screen. That will be one that I have to see in the theater - along with Harry Potter, of course!

Well, must pretend to work. Have a great day everyone!


kaykay1970 - Oct 3, 2005 6:31 am (#865 of 2980)

Kate You are not fat, you are healthy. Like I said before I had health problems when I was "freakishly thin." I was very anemic growing up which caused me to have alot of problems. I only gained about 18 pounds with my second child. I had to take 5 iron tablets a day which was not fun. Then my boy had to take iron supplements until he was 2. He is still freakishly thin, but he is healthy. He weighs 100 pounds and is 5'6".

I am so upset with my hubby. He is diabetic. He really overdid it with the sweets this weekend at the Appreciation thing. Last night on the way home from the grocery store he was light-headed and had to let me drive home. When he finally checked his sugar it was in the target zone at 118 but it had been hours since he had eaten. Today is his birthday so I need to cook a special meal. I am consulting the diabetic cookbook for ideas.


Snuffles - Oct 3, 2005 7:25 am (#866 of 2980)

Just read that in Hello magazine, Alan Rickman has been voted September's most attractive man.

He won with over 5000 votes, me thinks some forum members *cough* Gina, Choices *cough* must have voted a few times!!!! Hee hee!



Madam Pince - Oct 3, 2005 7:29 am (#867 of 2980)

Mandy, your Legos look so cool!

Ladybug, I am so excited to see The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe! I haven't see a trailer yet -- it never occurred to me to look online (Duh! If it wasn't for the Forum, I'd probably never have see a GoF one yet either! )

Vlad, you are correct -- at the battle of Gettysburg, the Confederate army approached the town from the north, while the Federal army approached from the south. Kind of backwards, but it fits if you follow where their campaigns had been, etc. I used to do about five or six re-enactments a year (I was in a Civil War wedding once as an attendant), but lately I've only been doing the one, although Mr. Pince does more. I love them -- it is so fun to step back in time. Camping out under the stars (well, I do have a tent), cooking over a campfire using only things that were available during our time period, it's all very cool. And wearing a corset really isn't all that bad -- it just reminds you that during your "regular" life, you probably aren't sitting/standing up with your back straight like your Mother taught you to. My back usually aches a little at the end of a long day wearing a corset. Next year we hope to start taking Little Pince. I am toying with the idea of taking him this time, but I'm afraid he still doesn't "Stop!" quickly enough when I need him to, when there are dangerous things like firepits and horses and things around. He looks so cute in his little outfit, though! (***keep repeating to self: "He is not a dress-up doll; he is not a dress-up doll"***)


kaykay1970 - Oct 3, 2005 10:43 am (#868 of 2980)

I shared this story on another web site and thought I would share with you all as well. Bear in mind that this was not funny at the time it happened.I was totally in tears.

My 2 year old son got his head seriously stuck in between the legs of one of my bar stools. This stool has added braces that hook between the legs thus creating an opening that one should think twice about sticking ones head through. Ok. Had he stuck his head into the opening from outside the stool I probably could have pulled him right out. This, however is not his style. He was "inside the stool,"as in in-between the four legs and stuck his head out through the opening. There was absolutely no way to position him to pull him back out. It looked like some kind of bizarre contortionist act gone terribly awry. I lay the bar stool down while my 11 year old held his head in the most comfortable position possible. I grabbed the hack saw which is not ideal for cutting wood but was handy because we had been working on the bathroom plumbing. Besides that it was much safer than the power circular saw that 14 year old son suggested (and people wonder why I don't trust my children to babysit). I started cutting the baby out while 14 year old ran around yelling, "Get the Skill saw, Get the Skill saw." Yeah right, I would like for the baby to come out of this with all his limbs attached, thank you very much! Anyway, once he was free I promptly tossed the bar stools from my home. I kept the little brace piece and put it in his "baby memory box."


Thora - Oct 3, 2005 11:01 am (#869 of 2980)

Oh, man! That must have been awful. I've gotten the kids heads out of tight spots by thinking reverse birth-crown last, but with the kid inside the stool I think i'd have sacrificed the stool too.

My son just broke the lid to the toilet. Looks like it will be cheaper to replace the whole tank than the lid.... and my sister has my car and my husband is out of town.

St. Mungo's here I come...



haymoni - Oct 3, 2005 11:03 am (#870 of 2980)

Kay - that is funny.

My mother-in-law often tells this story of one of my husband's mishaps. She was a teacher and at some point during the day, the principal came on the PA system in her room and told her that she had an emergency at home. (Why they couldn't come and knock on the door and tell her this is beyond me.) The principal said what the emergency was, but it sounded so far-fetched that she didn't believe him and decided to leave rather than clarify with him. (An aide came over until the principal could come down.)

When she got home, she found that my husband, who was about 4 at the time, had gotten his foot stuck inside a bongo drum. The babysitter was an older woman who was just beside herself. Everytime she went to move my husband's foot, he would scream - it was really wedged in there. And she didn't want to break the bongo drum to release the foot in case it was some important family heirloom.

Needless to say, the bongo drum was destroyed. My husband is now 41 and everytime he sees a set of bongo drums, he can hear his mother saying, "Now don't put your foot in it!"


Viola Intonada - Oct 3, 2005 2:06 pm (#871 of 2980) Reply
Edited by Kip Carter Oct 3, 2005 4:15 pm

LOL, I love all of the stories today.

Thora, you are always welcome to join us in St. Mungo's on the Harry Potter Lexicon FanFiction Forum.

Madame Pince, what do you mean by "he's not a dress up doll"? Of course he is. It is one of the fringe benefits of being a parent. At least, that is what I always tell my kids when I dress them up in stuff they don't want to wear. Isn't that one of our main motivations for having children? That and being able to play with all of the toys we didn't have as children (such as Harry Potter Legos).

edit:  Added links to both St. Mungo's and the FanFiction Forum. – Kip


Chemyst - Oct 3, 2005 5:27 pm (#872 of 2980)

Viola, I'm right there with you on the fringe benefits of the dress-up doll stuff – and it includes hairstyles as well as clothes  ... and playing with toys.

We didn't have any civil war battle grounds near us where I grew up in Ohio, but my best friend's house had once been part of the Underground Railroad. (Hm, I never though about it like this before, but it was a little like Harry's cupboard under the stairs.) They had a pantry closet which had a fake back that opened to a little secret room under the stairway. Her mom didn't like us to play there; she was afraid we might get stuck...
(The Underground Railroad, for those of you who may not be up on US history, was not a set of tracks, but a loose network of people who would hide and assist runaway slaves who tried to escape to Canada. A secret room would be a safe place to spend the night.)

Thora, is the broken toilet in the house you are trying to sell? What a bummer. He should have broken it sooner so you could have enjoyed a new throne for awhile.


Stephanie M. - Oct 3, 2005 8:22 pm (#873 of 2980)

Happy Rosh Hashanah everyone who is celebrating the Jewish New Year!

I'm very tired at the moment. This day has been VERY long!

Nighty Night!


The giant squid - Oct 3, 2005 11:22 pm (#874 of 2980)

Kate, definitely do not use me as a guideline...70kg sounds about right for your height. Let me put it this way: my doctor was actually surprised that I wasn't malnourished. I'm getting all my vitamins (without taking supplements), my heart & other organs are healthy and strong, I'm just...skinny. It boggles his mind. Poor doctors, they just aren't happy unless you're sick enough to put his next kid through college. He did say I have high cholesterol, but I think that's just spite.

Thora, it does seem sometimes that it's cheaper to replace the whole thing than just one part, doesn't it? I don't know why, we're saving them the labor cost of assembly... As for toilets, has anyone else notices that the flush assembly only breaks when you really really need to flush something...?



dizzy lizzy - Oct 4, 2005 12:04 am (#875 of 2980)

Hi all! I don't really have much going on. I've been a bit out of sorts lately - hayfever - and it has been quite hot here so early on and I've been a lot more unfortable than normal with the early heat.

I got bored last week and went back to my local library for some books. It looks as though they had been on a spending spree as there were some new books there to read (kids books at that).

Hope everyone is having a lovely day!



haymoni - Oct 4, 2005 5:38 am (#876 of 2980)

Chemyst - where in Ohio??? How cool to have a secret room in your house!

Hope all is well with everyone.

Happy Tuesday!

We government workers have a long weekend coming up, so I have something to look forward to. (Columbus Day - October 10)


Loopy Lupin - Oct 4, 2005 5:43 am (#877 of 2980)

I started cutting the baby out while 14 year old ran around yelling, "Get the Skill saw, Get the Skill saw."-- Kaykay1970

Use the taser! The taser!

Just teasing Kaykay. Look on the bright side, that piece of wood will be worth 100's of stories now.


Marie E. - Oct 4, 2005 5:49 am (#878 of 2980)

Wow, and I thought the story where Lexie stuck Apple Jacks up her nose was a good one.


Denise P. - Oct 4, 2005 6:03 am (#879 of 2980)

I have a good kid story. Years ago, when one of mine (who remain nameless) was about 11 or so, we were on vacation. We were visiting my parents and decided to go to the beach. I told the kids to put on their swimsuits under their clothes before we left the house. We got to the beach and we were wrangling all the cousins from the parking lot to the beach. Now my kids had never been to the ocean before and let me tell you, despite what you see on TV, northern CA water is COLD. The only time it is not is if by some freak chance, there is no cloud cover and the sun is shining...doesn't happen often. I looked out at the child in question, frolicking in the surf, and noticed something odd about her. I asked my mom if she noticed anything odd and we called the child over to us. She came prancing up, wet and with her underwear on top of her swimsuit! She promptly got them off and I asked her what possessed her to wear them over her swim suit. "You told me to put my swimsuit on under my clothes!!" …sigh …  Not the brightest crayon in the box....


kaykay1970 - Oct 4, 2005 8:53 am (#880 of 2980)

That is a great story Denise. I bet you have about a million. Some of my least favorite kid stories include fingerpainting with diaper contents and the dangers of heavy ceramic toilet seats when potty training boys. I do have one other great one though. One of my children discovered that he could now open the bathroom door. He gets in the tub,turns on the hot water which is quickly absorbed into his diaper. By the time my husband grabbed him he was bouncing up and down saying,"Hot boody, hot boody!"


Elanor - Oct 4, 2005 9:22 am (#881 of 2980)

I loved reading your stories everybody! I have one that you may find funny too, though it didn't make my Mom laugh at all when it happened.

When my brother Luc was about 4, he was playing outside with two friends while parents were talking inside the house (there were a lot of people as it was a family reunion). Everyone was thinking that others were actually watching after the kids, who were quietly drawing with marker pens an uncle had lent them to have a bit of peace. But it seems that, after some time, they found that drawing on paper was actually boring and decided to try their skills on a white car's coachwork parked in the yard... When someone finally realised no-one was with them, it was too late: there were little men drawn everywhere on the car amongst suns, trees, etc... They sort of tried to say they didn't do it at first but as they had written their names all around the car too (which was the only thing they knew how to write then)... It took the parents quite a moment before realising the pens were indeed indelebile...

I hope you're having a great day! Here, it is a damp and rather cold one (10°C / 50°F this afternoon), with a chilly mist that would be enough to depress a Dementor! I hope your day is sunnier wherever you are.


PS: I just love reading the posts on the happy birthday Lexicon thread! Each time, it makes me nodding thinking "that's so true", "me too!" or "it's beautiful" and makes me want to hug everybody here. So: ((((((((((hugs)))))))))))


Thora - Oct 4, 2005 9:25 am (#882 of 2980)

Denise, that is too funny. I was about the same age when I had a similar experience. I wrapped up my underwear in my towel so I didn't have to wear my wet swimming suit home. I wrapped it very tight (you know the whole fold in 3rds, roll and tuck the flap thing) but I guess it wasn't tight enough to survive the gleeful "we're going swimming" toss of all the towels in the air. Yup panties 15 feet high for all to see.

Ever notice how redheads blush so powerfully?

Anyhow, it's the tank lid that's broken. I searched and searched for a replacement and the only 3 available in the whole USA are rose, blue, and bone. The original is white..... so I spent the 33 bucks on the bone one.... I mean what was I supposed to do? I just hope it makes it here in one piece or I might just cry.

My son didn't hold the honors of "most aggravating thing done on Oct 3, 2005" for very long. His big sister apparently didn't like him getting all the negative attention, so instead of getting ready for bed she STUCK POPCORN KERNELS IN HER EARS!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. The first two rolled right out. The third took a bit of gravity and earlobe wiggling. The fourth took considerably longer. Thankfully I'm spatially minded and knew we had another popcorn kernel length before her eardrum so we got it out very carefully. But MY LAND!!!

It will be interesting to see if doll house climbing, my toothbrush dunked in the exposed toilet tank, and a cut from the toilet lid are the worst for today... sigh, chuckle. Motherhood.

There is a church about 30 miles from here that was part of the underground railroad. My husband said it had an underground tunnel that spans the last few miles to Lake Erie to catch the boat to Canada.

Oh, and Kip, thanks for your constant vigilance and expert linking.



kaykay1970 - Oct 4, 2005 10:35 am (#883 of 2980)

Ydnam, I have been worrying about little James. Can you give us an update?


Madam Pince - Oct 4, 2005 1:12 pm (#884 of 2980)

Oh, Thora, you've had a yucky time of it! So sorry! But just remember that someday it will seem funny (I hope -- that's what everyone keeps telling me, anyway...)

Elanor, I've heard some pretty bad "kid coloring on inappropriate surface" stories, but I think yours takes the cake. That's an expensive art canvas!

We had a near miss today -- Little Pince decided to get out his paints (which I had thought were safely locked away in the closet) and started painting with bright red. Somehow, the entire paintbrush got covered with paint, along with both hands and a good part of his arm. I discovered it when he had already come through the living room, past the new sofa, down the hallway, and into the bathroom where he announced that he needed to "clean." Clean what? I asked. "Clean me!" So I came running in and found the evidence. But praise be, he had managed to not touch anything on his way to the bathroom, and miraculously nothing had dripped either, although he was absolutely coated. Whew! We were lucky this time....


Viola Intonada - Oct 4, 2005 2:50 pm (#885 of 2980)

This year's preschool class says some of the funniest things. We have started keeping a log of quotes to share with the parents later in the year.

Last week the kids were coloring apples according to our specific directions. Most had finished and gone to the play area, one of the students still working said, "Hello, I need some help here. I'm only 4, not 5." The inflections in this kids voice was just priceless.

This week, one student explained why he was talking when he wasn't supposed to be, "Well, I was talking, because, well because I have to breath." It was taking everything we had not to burst out laughing.


Lina - Oct 4, 2005 3:08 pm (#886 of 2980)

Thank you everybody for your good charms. They worked. Mihaela went to the daycare today and Kate is going to school tomorrow. Hubby is still recovering. Veronika (the "freakishly thin") seemed as if she will be sick too, but she didn't at the end and I don't have the time to be sick anyway.

I must say that some of your kid stories did hurt to read , so I will go back to the weight debate. Lucky you, Madam Pince, you have a good reason to take care of your weight at least once a year. I always delay it and I'm happy if the weight is not going up. Actually, with two kids who don't like to eat, I'm quite happy with Kate. Veronika (11 years, 5'1" - 155 cm, 68 Lbs - 31 kg) is the one who makes the most problems. She has a waist of a 7 year old and legs long as at least a 13 year old. Now be clever and buy her some clothes! It was really cute at the time that everybody was wearing tights and she mostly had the clothes that her sister already used, she tried to persuade me that what I gave her were not the tights. Yeah right! Once she put both legs in one hose and couldn't figure out what is the other hose for?

Yet, I would like to have a white car and wander in the neighborhood of your family reunion, Audry. I've always wanted to have a car painted in flowers. When you get a new car it is a pity to paint it and when the car is old enough, the painting is more expensive than the car is worth. This way I would get it painted for free!

I like your avatar, Mandy!

Happy Rosh Hashanah everyone who is celebrating the Jewish New Year! (even though belated)


Ydnam96 - Oct 4, 2005 3:40 pm (#887 of 2980)

Actually, I was about to do an update on James! I got an email saying he is home, having been through his first batch of chemo and blood transfusion. He is eating tons of food, they think it is a side effect of the Prednisone he is on. He is doing well, but they believe that is because this was the first round. Their spirits are high and they are being very hopeful. He has more appointments this week so I'm sure we'll get another update soon.

Thanks for all the prayers and good thoughts! They are appreciated.

I've been super busy with work lately, so nothing too exciting to post. Although I can say that as a child I stuck a Kix so far up my nose that my parents had to take me to the ER. Haha. Not so funny at the time I guess.

I'm off to take a nap, I have a night full of work ahead and I'm sure tired. Have a great day everyone.

For all those Celebrating Rosh Hashanah enjoy your apples and honey. MMMMMMM


timrew - Oct 4, 2005 3:42 pm (#888 of 2980)

Ydnam......good luck to James..........

And to all our Jewish people on the Forum, Happy New Year!!!!


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 4, 2005 4:22 pm (#889 of 2980)

Madam Pince, I did some research (which is rare, believe me) and discovered that a town in my area actually surrendered to the Confederate army, which, come to think of it, explains the color of the uniforms of the reinactors. All these years I just thought they were dusty from camping out on a softball infield. Perhaps I will become a Civil War buff after Harry Potter ends.

Denise, you have a lot of kids. It goes without saying that some of them will get their intelligence from your husband.

Giant Squid, didn't you, or at least your wife, hang out with the band Poison at some point. The lead singer happens to be from the same town that surrendered.

Edit: That is meant as a compliment to you, Denise, not an insult to your husband.


Denise P. - Oct 4, 2005 5:06 pm (#890 of 2980)

Not to worry Sam, she is not related by blood to either of us Same child, same trip....we were in a hotel and she wanted to bunk on the floor in a sleeping bag. She decided she wanted to put her head under the air conditioning unit in the window, it was low. We suggested a different space since we saw the writing on the wall. Child disagreed and insisted on sleeping there. Okay, you have to learn sometime that parents do occasionally know what they are talking about. In the morning, we got up and woke up sleeping child. "Nameless Child, it is time to get up" It was followed by a loud THUNK as she sat up and banged her head into the bottom of the unit and then a really, low pathetic crying. (She was unhurt, more embarassed than anything) Same child got her arm stuck between a pew and a wall during church services, right at a point when it is really impolite to get up. I can go on, she hates hearing these stories and yet, every silly kid story involves her LOL I can't wait until she gets engaged some day and we can trot all these out!

Mandy, good news on James. Prednisone will make people eat like hogs and it makes them puffy too.


Carolyne Zurack - Oct 4, 2005 5:22 pm (#891 of 2980)

hey finn! i finally got my account working!!! now can you explain how everything else works? lol jk.....


kaykay1970 - Oct 4, 2005 5:25 pm (#892 of 2980)

Thanks for the update on James. Glad to hear he is doing well.


Carolyne Zurack - Oct 4, 2005 5:43 pm (#893 of 2980)

what is a bezoar?


Ydnam96 - Oct 4, 2005 5:45 pm (#894 of 2980)

Well, it is a stone found in the belly of a goat and it is an antidote to most poisons.


T Brightwater - Oct 4, 2005 5:58 pm (#895 of 2980)

Hi all, I'm back! Had a great time out on the West Coast and three good concerts with the quartet; we're all still speaking to each other after over a week together, so that bodes well. Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042 Next year in Milano! (and maybe somewhere in Croatia!)

Happy birthday to all I missed, welcome back to Barbie, best of luck to all affected by hurricanes, and welcome Natalie Grace/Baby Puck and all new members!

I'll reach the 4-dozen mark on Monday. I don't feel that old, but I finally figured out what I should have said to the guy in Trader Joe's who asked me for my driver's license: "Oh, I'm not eligible for the senior discount yet!"

Go White Sox! (I'm officially a Cubs fan but I like the Sox too. Both Soxes, actually, but when a hometown team is in the playoffs all other loyalties are suspended.)


Finn BV - Oct 4, 2005 5:58 pm (#896 of 2980)

Great stories, everybody! And some of them a little weird… LOL.

Hey Carolyne! Everybody, this is another friend from school of Steph and mine… there are actually about two more joining just at the moment! Carolyne, please introduce yourself on the -- Tell About Yourself (new) thread.

I see Mandy has answered your question. To get started around the forum, you might want to clear all the news posts by clicking the Mark as Read button in the teal bar, and then start looking at all the discussions!

Edit: Both Soxes, actually, but when a hometown team is in the playoffs all other loyalties are suspended. --T Brightwater

Aha, both Soxes for me too but when Boston is playing is to them I am partial. ::evilgrin:: And with that…… welcome back T Brightwater!


Viola Intonada - Oct 4, 2005 6:56 pm (#897 of 2980)

If I'm not mistaken, I believe I saw Mr. Pince on TV tonight on "Amazing Race". I have never watched "Amazing Race" before, was flipping through the channels and thought, "Hey I'll watch for a little while" they were navigating around Washington, DC. Before I knew it, they were at a battlefield reenactment of a Civil War Battle. Then the light bulb flashed on and I watched more intently.

Hey, they just showed a close up! Can I have Mr. Pince's autograph?


Denise P. - Oct 4, 2005 7:52 pm (#898 of 2980)

Madam Pince, was that Mr. Pince, right near the end, showed a Union Soldier yelling? It was a shot of just him? Since I only heard Mr. Pince giving me a bad time , not yelling, I can't be sure. I am about to go Tivo slo-mo to take a better look.

And darn I was hoping the second to last team was going to be the ones to be booted.

Okay, I just slo-mo'd it and I would put money on the fact it is Mr. Pince. My Tivo shows it at the 54 minute mark into the show. I put on the CC but it didn't caption what was being yelled... Maybe "Keep it up!!"?

Edit: Since Viola also thinks it was Mr. Pince, I think we are correct!! Way to go Mr. Pince Smile


Finn BV - Oct 4, 2005 8:05 pm (#899 of 2980)

Well I didn't watch it since I don't really watch TV in general, but way to go Mr. Pince!

And do I want to hear the Mr. Pince and Denise story or is that something for another time??


Denise P. - Oct 4, 2005 8:12 pm (#900 of 2980)

No real story At the first PA Gathering, Mr. Pince took in the group and quickly realized that he could hassle me without upsetting me. You have to like that in a person, that they will do that. You know what I mean, good natured harrassment with a lot of humor behind it...Mr. Pince was not being ugly. A lot of spouses at events that are like that feel out of place, Mr. Pince waded right in and had no trouble holding his own. You should ask Madam Pince to tell the story of the pilfered banner....it may still be archived somewhere. Hee hee hee
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Finn BV - Oct 4, 2005 8:35 pm (#901 of 2980)

Oh, dear. "Pilfered banner?" When I am less tired in the morning hopefully I will have forgotten… **secretly goes off to press "search" button**


Madam Pince - Oct 4, 2005 11:15 pm (#902 of 2980) Reply
Edited by Kip Carter Oct 4, 2005 11:57 pm

Ha Denise! Yes, that story is still archived. Finn, if you want to check it out, go to the archived threads, then I think it's called "Pennsylvania Forum Gathering" or something similar. You could start reading the posts from about mid-June on I think (wasn't it June 15th or something that we had the party?) There's pictures on there, too, that Denise posted -- you have to go to the link and it takes you to some photo site. Anyways.... yeah, Mr. Pince is a pretty good sport. And although he wasn't quite as obsessed fascinated by the Potter Universe as most of us there were, he was still pretty interested. And he does love the movies, and pesters me to keep him up to date on the books.

So....yes, Viola and Denise, you have sharp eyes! That was indeed Mr. Pince in tonight's Amazing Race! He was actually yelling "Keep it hot!" (encouraging the guys to pour volleys into the opposing line.) He was in two other quick scenes earlier, too -- the show really did a lot of quick cuts, so it's hard to pick anyone out unless you know what you're looking for (which, of course, you two did!) We were so excited that he got a pretty good close up, and actually got some of his "dialogue" heard on air! We were whooping and high-fiving each other like a couple of idiots. There were a lot of our good friends who got some "face time" too (like the two guys at the mat at the Pit Stop.) It's just so cool to see people you know on TV!! I mean, as long as the show isn't Cops or something.......

Vlad, if you do decide to follow up on your Civil War research, let me know. I'm sure Mr. Pince would have lots of websites to direct you to and suggestions for books. I could, too, but the majority of my research has been directed towards either ladies' clothing and accessories of the mid-1800's, or cooking, or Victorian etiquette, none of which I'd guess is your area of interest.... Living near Gettysburg as you do, you could find lots of neat things to delve into, I bet!

OK, so that was Mr. Pince's 5 seconds of national TV network exposure. As I told Denise earlier, autographed 8 X 10's will be available on a first-come, first-served basis -- they will undoubtedly be quite valuable after next year's Emmys. Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 464751818

Welcome back, T Brightwater! And Mandy, I am so glad to hear James' treatments are going well -- we're still thinking about him and hoping for all good things for him.

 Finn, the story is on the June 6, 2004 post from Madam Pince  and the link for Denise's photos are a few messages later. – Kip


The giant squid - Oct 4, 2005 11:29 pm (#903 of 2980)

Wow, and I thought the story where Lexie stuck Apple Jacks up her nose was a good one.--Marie E.

My favorite "Lexie" story goes like this:

on phone with Marie
MARIE: Lexie, do you want to say hi to Uncle Mike?"
LEXIE: (to me) I swallowed a dime.

She then said she was doing fine, liked school, and handed the phone back to Mommy. Marie & I spent the next 15 minutes laughing at long-distance rates...

Giant Squid, didn't you, or at least your wife, hang out with the band Poison at some point. The lead singer happens to be from the same town that surrendered.--I Am Used Vlad

Yes, the wife used to hang out with SoCal bands around that time. She was more friends with Rikki, though. He was the "normal" one.



Marie E. - Oct 5, 2005 5:49 am (#904 of 2980)

I forgot that Lexie had swallowed a dime. How funny! There was the time she was in the ER for Nursemaid's Elbow (tendon on the elbow that often slips off in children under five) and she kept screaming "Daddy broke my arm!". The summer Shayla was two she had stitches in her head three times. Actually it was stitches twice and staples once. I thought after the third time they would come take her away.

Yesterday it was about 80 here and tonight they are predicting snow. I am so not ready for wintery weather to start. Lexie doesn't even have a new winter coat yet, though it's not because of Slacker Mom issues. She is very picky about what coat she wants. It can't be "puffy". She'd rather go all winter in a thin fleece jacket, but I'm afraid that won't cut it here. We're trying to find a balance between "puffy" and lightweight fleece. She may have to wear last year's coat for today.


kaykay1970 - Oct 5, 2005 6:10 am (#905 of 2980)

Today is my Dad's birthday. He would have been 64 today. I have added my son's 4-H speech that he wrote the year Daddy died to my personal introduction. It is a good tribute to his birthday. I replaced names with a "?" but I think you can get the gist of it. Obviously my son shares his first name with Daddy.

Marie you should definitely keep Shayla away from my son. He has had stitches above his eye 3 times. He broke a pinky at a baseball game and his pointer finger with a basketball! No doubt he would teach your daughter how to skateboard down the slide!


Madam Pince - Oct 5, 2005 6:28 am (#906 of 2980)

kaykay, that tribute to your Dad is absolutely beautiful. And what a great kid your son is to have penned such a wonderful thing! It sounds like he is well-deserving of sharing the name of such a great man. Hope you have a good day today.

Mike and Marie, that is a great story about Lexie and the dime! It's those matter-of-fact statements that are the funniest, aren't they? (Well, I'd love to have seen Marie's face while Lexie was screaming "Daddy broke my arm!" though...)

dizzy lizzy, what breed is your Lucy in your avatar? She looks just like my Annie, who also sleeps in that position a lot too! How cute!

Edit to Finn: I do wear my glasses most of the time nowadays rather than the contacts I had on at the picnic. They look sort of like Tina Fey's on "Saturday Night Live," if that helps...


Finn BV - Oct 5, 2005 6:39 am (#907 of 2980)

I forgot that Lexie had swallowed a dime. –Marie

Excellent. The first step in parenting.

Kip, thanks for the link. My goodness, the images I had of you all before are so different to those of after! I think I'll continue thinking of Madam Pince as glasses and Denise as… all of her children.

Kaykay, have a great day today. We will be thinking of you. Incidentally, do you call your son Skip? I learned last night that kids who are named after their grandfather but do not share their name with their grandfather's child can be called "Skip" (just like somebody who looks just like their dad is called "Chip" because of the expression "chip off the old block"; and somebody who is a "third" of the name (e.g., John Smith, III) is "Tray").

Happy New Year to the Jewish forumers, and thank goodness they go to my school or I wouldn't have today off!


Denise P. - Oct 5, 2005 6:50 am (#908 of 2980)

I can imagine Marie's face as Lexie is yelling her dad broke her arm, horrified stunned disbelief. Now, you can't even joke about stuff like that without it being looked into to be sure that the child is not being abused. After one of my kids fell and bashed a cheek on a stero speaker, my dad encouraged them to tell people that Mr. Denise did it. I gave him a stern talking to about that and said it is not funny and people WILL believe it.

My 8 year old was doing a Black Beauty re-write that she called The Devil Horse. At one point, poor ole DH makes the statement that he thinks his miserable life will end in less than a year. (His mom died earlier, poor Devil Horse). A sub read Kaity's story and the next thing I know is I am getting a call from the school who is concerned about the dark, depressing tone in her story and they wanted to be sure Kaity was not writing metaphorically about herself! She wasn't,  and had no idea why her story caused an uproar. When I explained to her that sometimes people will write a story with characters but they are actually talking about themselves, she looked at me like I suddenly grew an eye in the middle of my forehead. "Mom, if I had a problem, I would tell you or another adult." Ah, so  logical at such a young age but it is good to know she would tell someone.

I do find it ironic that she has easy, free access to read a series of books that are dark and depressing (Series of Unfortunate Events) and it is okay but she writes a story with a single line that is depressing and I get a phone call


Stephanie M. - Oct 5, 2005 7:02 am (#909 of 2980)

Hello everyone! I haven't been on as much in the past 2 days because I have been extremely busy. Monday night I had a Rosh Hashanah sader (I'm half Jewish but I celebrated with my fully Jewish family on my dad's side. I don't have any Jewish family from my mom's side) and that was after school on Monday so I was completely wiped out when I got home. Then yesterday I went to one of my friend's houses and we hung out for most of the day. Then I went home and e-mailed a few people and then went to dinner with my grandparents.

I missed Mr. Pince! I was at dinner and came back pretty late and I forgot to tape it! Well, I'm very glad that he had a close enough shot that you could here what he was saying!!

Kaykay, I hope you have a wonderful day today. What your son wrote was abosultly beautiful!

Mandy, I'm glad James is doing well! I will still be thinking of him and wishing for the best!

Finn, I have only heard of Chip, but I might have heard of Skip too but I know I haven't heard of Tray... weird.

I'm going to have to look at all of those pictures now!

Have a great day everyone!

Edit: Welcome to the Forum Carolyne!!


pottermom34 - Oct 5, 2005 7:24 am (#910 of 2980)

Talk about funny things kids say. Denise P, my 3yr old, just saw your avatar of the baby and said "hey that's me when I was little." Don't know where she got that from.
My kids haven't had any major accidents to give them stitches yet but I think my 3yr old is trying to give me some. She was having a fiut last nght because I wouldn't let her have a snack. It was 11:00 at nite and she didn't need one. Anyway she was screaming and throwing things. I don't mean justtoys either, she was throwing chairs and toys and anything she could get her hands on she even knocked over the tv trays. What can I say she has a temper. I didn't go through terrible twos too badly with my oldest so I'm making up for it with my youngest.

Glad to hear James is ok.

Sorry, I don't watch Amazing Race so I missed Mr. Pince also. But I have friends that used to participate in civil war re-enactments, I don't know if they still do.

Talk about crazy weather it's supposed to get up to 86 here today and tomorrow it's supposed to drop to the 50s. Michigan weather, gotta love it (I guess).

Off to read more threads


kaykay1970 - Oct 5, 2005 9:32 am (#911 of 2980)

Thanks all for your support today. This time of year is always hard. I have been trying to catch upon some of the posts which helps alot. My son goes by his first name. Incidentally,when I told Dad what I planned to name him he told me I must change his middle name to that of my father-in-law. They were friends since childhood. So he is named after both grandfathers. I guess we would have to call him Skip Skip. Speaking of nick-names though.My daughter is a female version of my husband. She is only 5'1". Her "little" brother is 5'6". She had to use a cushion in driver's ed. to see over the steering wheel. My husband often refers to her as Mini-Me.


Stephanie M. - Oct 5, 2005 10:02 am (#912 of 2980)

I find all of these stories about kids very funny! I have never been to a hospital for stitches or broken bones or anything. I was a pretty safe kid. My sister also has never had stitches or broken bones, but she did sprain her ankle when we were in Canada and we were skiing. There was a sign in French (we take Spanish) and it must have said something along the lines of: DON'T GO DOWN THIS MOUNTAIN! THERE IS ICE! So she went down the mountain anyway and wound up spraining her ankle.

Now for me, I have had LOTS of accidental stab wounds. There was one time where I was lying on my parents’ bed and there must have been a pencil in between my legs. So I put my legs together so I could get off of their bed and the pencil went into the side of my knee. You can still see the graphite in my knee...

Then there was another time when I was in forth grade and I was doing my math homework and my sister wanted to check it over. So she comes over to me to check my math and I didn't want her to check it. So once she headed towards where I was sitting (I was cross legged) I untucked my feet so I could run away from her but she came after me and I accidently kicked her while I was getting away from the sofa. So the power of my kick kind of made her fall on me and to break her fall she put her hand with an orange high lighter on the other side of the knee that had the pencil stab wound and stabbed me with the orange high lighter.

I still have the scars for both of these wounds. The high lighter is not that noticeable, but the pencil wound is noticeable.

Since I'm such a nerdy person, and since I have nothing else to do today ... I have decided to read some of my history reader and read Ramayana A Journey for History. I have also decided that I'm going to read and answer all of the assignments I have to do in the month of October for Science. I think I have decided to do this because I have been so busy during school nights that I have to wake up even earlier than I normally do so I can finish my homework. So I'm going to really get ahead today and this weekend. And I'm going to study this weekend for all of the things I have this upcoming week because I'm going to Penn (University of Pennsylvania, not Pennsylvania University. People seem to mess those two up and I can for the life of me figure out why! ) on Monday for my sister's interview. So I feel very busy right now, but it's unstressful business. It's very refreshing after having been very busy during the week!

Okay time to go read some History!!!!


haymoni - Oct 5, 2005 10:11 am (#913 of 2980)

I cheated in a bike race.

There...I said it.

I was about 10 years old and I cut through an alley and wiped out on my bike. I still have bits of gravel in my knee which is badly scarred. Obviously it served me right!

I have deluded myself into thinking that if I confess this terrible crime over and over again the gravel and scars will disappear from my knee and all will be well.

Nothing has happened yet.


CatherineHermiona - Oct 5, 2005 12:33 pm (#914 of 2980)

Oh, this totally freaked me out, haymoni. I have earned a scar that I still have a year after I earned it!!!!!!!!!!! It still doesn't look good. I know I haven't earned it by cheating on the race, but I was trying to do something with a bike something that I knew I can't because I'm not such a good bike rider.

Today rained a lot and I didn't have any umbrella so I get totally wet. Second time in this SCHOOL year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Second time in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It never happend to me before until now. First time in my life was when I was 12 and a half, second time in my life was 12 and a half. But I enjoy it when I get totally wet!!!!!!!!!!!



haymoni - Oct 5, 2005 12:49 pm (#915 of 2980)

Not to depress you or anything, Kate, but my scar is here THIRTY years after I earned it!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 5, 2005 12:59 pm (#916 of 2980)

Hey everyone! I have been way too busy lately, but I finally found some time to hop on and check the threads! Boy do I have a ton of posts to read! (I may have to cheat and hit "mark as read" for some )

Happy Belated Bithday to the Lexicon, and to anyone else I may have missed the past week or so.

I've loved reading everyone's silly kid stories. I have one from when I was a little girl. Now it's one of my mother's favorite stories to tell, but at the time she was livid with me! When I was about 5 years old, my mother and I went shopping at Tower City center in downtown Cleveland. We were in a store and I guess I decided I wanted to play hide and seek. Unfortunatly, I didn't think to tell my mother that we were playing, but just ran and hid from her. She began looking for me all over the store, and meanwhile, I was standing alone outside the store, watching her search for me through the window. When she finally found me, after minutes of frantic searching, I was laughing and told her simply, "Mommy, you're not very good at this game." Boy was I in trouble!!!

I hope everyone who's been sick is feeling better!!

So Aaron left for Iraq Saturday night. We went and got out tattoos on Friday, and I just hope he's able to keep his clean and moisturized while he's in the desert!! Now begins the scary countdown to May, when he's supposedly coming home.

I went home to Cleveland this weekend to see and concert with my friend Rachel. It was the Nintendo Fussion Tour and it was an amazing concert. There were five punk bands playing (I'm a huge fan of punk music). The bands were Panic at the Disco, BoysNightOut, Motion City Soundtrack, The Starting Line, and Fall Out Boy. It was amazing. I'm going out sometime this week to buy all 5 bands' CD's!!

Anyway, I think that's about all there is to tell here, so I'm off to check the threads!!



Lina - Oct 5, 2005 2:20 pm (#917 of 2980)

Kaykay, i would say - what does the name "?" mean to me? Something a mother should really be proud of. I bet you are. A great story!

Denise, I find it very comforting that a school is calling you for a depressing story. It would mean that they actually care about the kid. It is good that they don't have to be concerned, but it is even better that they think that the parent should know everything. (maybe I'm just too obsessed with teachers who don't care) I know a woman who decided to have a second child after her first child's teacher showed her the story he wrote about his mum being so thin and not as beautiful as another teacher who was pregnant.

Happy belated birthday Brightwater! May you have a lot of them more (many returns?) and may I see you almost soon!

Strengthening charms to James!

I had an accident when I was a kid and earned a scar at my chin. Kate had something similar when she was six and had her chin stitched. So, I guess it is hereditary.

Kate, I guess that getting the chicken pox right after the scar is not going to help the scar disappear...

Keeping safe charms for Aaron!


Finn BV - Oct 5, 2005 2:30 pm (#918 of 2980)

Wait, Brightwater, your birthday is approaching, not past, right?   I'll reach the 4-dozen mark on Monday . . .    That would be… the 10th, no? Well happy birthday anyway.

I like how Lina put it so I'll just say the same thing… "keeping safe charms for Aaron."


T Brightwater - Oct 5, 2005 3:00 pm (#919 of 2980)

You're right, Finn, it's this coming Monday. Thanks anyway (you too Lina!)

OK, I'm taking the mask off at last...

Here is my group's website, if anyone's interested. Well, it's not my group as such. "We're an autonomous collective; we haven't got a director!"

Hey, my first link! Woo-hoo!


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 5, 2005 3:38 pm (#920 of 2980)

Madam Pince, I just love 19th century ladies' accessories. Clearly you are misreading me. I like watching the History Channel, but I don't think I have what it takes to become a true buff.

There was a sign in French (we take Spanish) and it must have said something along the lines of: DON'T GO DOWN THIS MOUNTAIN! THERE IS ICE! So she went down the mountain anyway and wound up spraining her ankle. Stephanie

Steph, they should have a sign like that at all ski resorts in the east. I had a similar worry when I was in France. I can't read or speak the language, despite the best efforts of several forum members, and, unlike in our litigation happy society, they're not particularly concerned about your safety on the slopes. I was afraid that I would be unable to read a sign that said something like DANGER: CLIFFS and meet an untimely end. Fortunetly, they had a numerical rating system for avalanche danger.


Julie Aronson - Oct 5, 2005 5:26 pm (#921 of 2980)

Thanks to all for the New Year's wishes!

I won't discuss my own freakish weight issues, but I will say that I'm not unusually thin...

We have a lot of Underground Railroad stops in the Akron-Bath-Richfield area where I live.

I think the oddest thing I stuck up my nose was a peanut.

Congratulations, well-wishes, and hugs to all who need them...now I'm off to outline for Contracts!



The giant squid - Oct 5, 2005 6:11 pm (#922 of 2980)

Marie's daughter Shayla  definitely takes after her uncle... There are places on my skull where the scars have scars! I also still have a nasty think ugly scar on my right knee. I cut it on some glass that was in a dirt pile (I was 13, there was dirt, ergo I played). The cut was probably a good half-inch to an inch deep. The doctor on duty (one of the minuses of going to the military hospital) just put some tape and a band-aid on it & sent me home. Must've been near the end of his shift...



I Am Used Vlad - Oct 5, 2005 6:16 pm (#923 of 2980)

So you've suffered a lot of head injuries, Mike. Why am I not shocked?


dizzy lizzy - Oct 5, 2005 7:10 pm (#924 of 2980)

Madam Pince:

Lucy is apparently a Jack Russell/Maltese cross (but I'm not holding my breath on that) I had been waiting for an hour for that shot. Generally she starts sleeping with her paws away from the garage wall, then rolls onto her back and then "tries" to roll onto her other side and the feet hit the wall and there she stays....

She often does this against my back screen door in Winter (it gets the winter sun), but this is the first time I have been able to catch her at it!

Hope everyone is well



haymoni - Oct 5, 2005 7:48 pm (#925 of 2980)

Hey all!

Just finished watching "The Little Princess" on the Family Channel.

I had forgotten just how rich the colors were. Alfonso did a great job.

We have the Shirley Temple black & white version on DVD.

My 5 year old didn't realize that she was watching the same movie until Sarah called Becky's name. She turned to me and said with that wide-eyed, rapture-filled voice, "This is MY movie!"

I held her and told her that she is my princess.

My eyes kept watering up throughout the whole thing.

Miss Minchin = Petunia I think!!!!


Madam Pince - Oct 5, 2005 8:29 pm (#926 of 2980)

Ha -- "Hello, my name is Haymoni and I cheated in a bike race."

All together now: "Hello, haymoni!"

I had a girlfriend who wrecked her bike on gravel and had gravel bits remaining on the inside of her wrist. It was so gross -- when she would bend her hand backwards, you could see the gravel, and then when her hand was normally positioned, you couldn't see it. Yuck!

lizzy, I guess Lucy isn't the same breed as Annie but from that picture she looks like it! Annie is a yellow lab, and she loves to sleep on her back with her legs all splayed in a very unladylike manner. Ha! Right at his moment however, she is curled very demurely at my feet with her chin resting on her front paws, passing some sort of horrible gas.... I love being a pet owner! They have absolutely no shame!

kaykay, glad your day went well. Little Pince's middle name is named after my father, who passed away in 1988. I wanted it to be his first name, but Mr. Pince (who never knew my Dad, unfortunately) had once known a kid in school by that name, and he couldn't stand the kid, and so he didn't want that for the first name. Personally I thought that was a poor excuse, but I settled for the middle name. If we should ever have a girl, (admittedly unlikely at this point) I get sole control of both names! (Oh, and from another thread -- we should ask the Hosts if "y'all" counts as correct English! It sure does where I come from! A very handy word to express "all of the whole bunch of you who are here.")

I agree with Vlad -- all eastern U.S. ski resorts are pure ice. I don't care if I never go again unless I go to Utah or Colorado or someplace where the powder is lovely and dry...

Jenn, we will be thinking of Aaron and hoping he stays safe. What tattoo did you decide on? Did you get one too? (By the way, LOL on the story of hiding from your Mom!)

Belated Happy Rosh Hashana to everyone!


Ydnam96 - Oct 5, 2005 10:10 pm (#927 of 2980)

Jenn, I would be interested in hearing about your experience if you did get a tatoo...I'm thinking of getting one but I'm a little chicken about the pain...

So I finally went to the doctor today because I'm still sick. I'm now taking some antibiotics so hopefully I'll get better soon. (and I know,I have to finish all of them even if I feel better )

I've been so busy that I haven't even checked the other threads but this one...I'm a forum slacker :hangs head in shame: I'm just to tired at the end of the day.

I'm sad I missed Mr. Pince on the Amazing Race. I was working. That must have been so exciting!


Julie Aronson - Oct 6, 2005 1:09 am (#928 of 2980)


I have a smallish (1") tattoo on my ankle and it didn't hurt much at all. To simulate the sensation, pull a hair out of the lower part of your leg (from your shin or something). That will give you a fairly accurate idea about whether or not you'll be able to handle the pain, such as it is.



Snuffles - Oct 6, 2005 2:40 am (#929 of 2980)


I decided to get a tattoo when I was 18. The pain isn't too bad. The part that did hurt the most was the outline which they do first. The colouring in doesn't hurt at all. As Julie says, try pulling out a hair and that is about on a par. If you can stand leg waxing then you should be ok!!! Thinking about it, leg waxing hurts more!!

Good luck!



haymoni - Oct 6, 2005 5:55 am (#930 of 2980)

I don't want to get a tattoo.

I don't want anything on my body that long!


Eponine - Oct 6, 2005 6:07 am (#931 of 2980)
Edited Oct 6, 2005 6:59 am

Tattoos: It depends on where you get it done. The lower stomach is extremely sensitive, so it hurts a bit more there. When I got mine, it felt like someone was poking me over and over and over with really hot needles. It hurt badly but it was over quickly, and I barely remember the actual pain now. FYI, I was told that the top of your foot is the most painful place to get a tattoo.


Snuffles - Oct 6, 2005 6:32 am (#932 of 2980)

That's true Eponine. Mine is at the top of my leg on the side, so it is just visible if I am wearing a bikini! Lots and lots of flesh so it didn't hurt too much!!

My niece who is 17 keeps saying she wants one, but I keep trying to put her off, how hypocritical am I? !!!



Eponine - Oct 6, 2005 7:04 am (#933 of 2980)

I wanted one since the time I was in junior high. I didn't get mine until I was 22, and by that time I knew that I wasn't going to regret it. I don't think a tattoo is something you should get on a whim. You need to be sure you really really want it.

Yesterday, at the library there was a little boy who had printed out his 'memoirs' (he was 10, what memoirs do they have?) and when I pulled it off the printer I glanced at it. He was talking about going to the beach and how he would just 'lowly gag' all day long. I was tickled by it.


Ydnam96 - Oct 6, 2005 8:23 am (#934 of 2980)

Eponine, that's funny. I would love to "lowly gag" too Smile

I have been thinking of getting a small tattoo for a few years. I had set a date to get one two years ago but I got really sick and couldn't. I was in a different state and now I have to do all the research again (about safe places and such). But I keep getting different stories from people about the pain and that makes me not sure, and I'm thinking until I'm fine with the idea that it might hurt me than some other people I should wait.

Plus, I waver about what I want too Smile

Okay, off to work. Have a good Thursday (is it Thursday already?) everyone.


Elanor - Oct 6, 2005 9:16 am (#935 of 2980)

I never thought of getting a tattoo. Some I've seen are really pretty and look great on their owners but I never felt the need of having one myself. But who knows!

As for scars, I have a nicely shaped one but decency prevents me to tell you where it is, though where it comes from is very simple: when I was about 5, I fell on a beach on sharped pebbles.

Finn, you posted that on the "You know you're a HP fan when..." thread: "what's a name day??

I guess it is a tradition you find only in countries where the catholic church is/was the main one for centuries. If you ever buy a calendar here, you will see that on each day there is the name of a saint put next to the number of the day. For example, today: October 6th, Saint Bruno. More than one saint is often celebrated each day. Most of the time the day is chosen because it was the date of death (or birth) of that saint. For example, St Audrey is celebrated on June 23rd because she (is supposed to) have died on a June 23rd I don't remmeber when in the 7th century.

Those name days, or saint's days, are not any more religious feasts as they were once but each day, when you hear the forecast on TV, the journalist will say something like "and don't forget to celebrate the Brunos tomorrow!". You will find it in every paper too like this: "today 279th day of the year - St Bruno". When it is your name day, when people think of it, they tell you "happy name day" (bonne fête!) and it is sometimes the opportunity to give flowers to your girlfriend or chocolates, etc... In my family, we love name days and always celebrate them: we offer small presents and the one who is "celebrated" has to buy a cake and a bottle to drink with. Lovely tradition I tell you!

Some of those name days are very famous: St Patrick's day in Ireland for example and often, in small villages, the village fete still happens on or near the patron saint's day, and that often goes with all sorts of old traditions, sometimes very cute.

It used to have other uses too. Often, in the past, when people didn't know what name to give to their children, they just named the child after the saint celebrated on his birthday, transforming it so that it became feminine, or masculine if needed. The result was sometimes weird... A poor kid born on November 1rst for example ("All saints day", "Toussaint" in French) would be called Toussaint or Toussaine. Same thing if he/she was born on Christmas, though it is prettier, since he would have been called Noël (Xmas in French), or for a girl: Noëlle, Noëlie, Noëla etc...

Does it answer your question?


CatherineHermiona - Oct 6, 2005 9:30 am (#936 of 2980)

And sometimes some people are having name days few times in a year. Mine are: 25th November (the one I celebrate),...... Well, I can't remember of them now.



T Brightwater - Oct 6, 2005 10:18 am (#937 of 2980)

Catherine of Alexandria, patroness of scholars - how appropriate! (And the spiked wheel on which she was to have been executed, which was destroyed by angels, gives its name to a type of firework, the catherine-wheel. See, there's an HP connection to everything if you look hard enough!)

I don't know if they still do it, but when I lived in London there would be a big choral service for St. Cecilia's day (Nov. 22, patroness of music) and singers from all the professional choirs would be there.

The eastern (Orthodox & Eastern-rite Catholic) calendar has a lot of different saints and dates - for example, today is St. Thomas the Apostle.


Elanor - Oct 6, 2005 11:38 am (#938 of 2980)

T Brightwater, Ste Cécile (St Cecilia) is also the patroness of music here and there are special services in the churches with a lot of music for her saint's day on November 22 too. BTW, it is great to "see" you here again! I'm glad everything went well for you!

Catherine, my calendar says the other St Catherine's day is April 29 (it is St Catherine of Sienne's day) but I think that, here as well, Catherines are more celebrated on November 25.

One thing I forgot to mention about saints' days is that, in old times, they were reference points in the year: you paid your taxes by St Martin's day (November 11), you picked your medicinal plants on St Jean (John)'s day in June, etc... There were (are!) also a lot of farmers' sayings about weather and cultivation bound to saints'days such as, in your honour Catherine:

A la Sainte Catherine,

tout pousse et prend racine.
(On St Catherine's day, everything grows and puts out roots). Meaning that, around St Catherine's day is the best period of the year for planting trees. And funnily enough people nowadays still refer to St Catherine's day when they want to plant trees!


T Brightwater - Oct 6, 2005 1:07 pm (#939 of 2980)

Thanks, Elanor, it's nice to be back!

My choir director told me that in southern Germany, they say "St. Catherine closes the dance hall, and the Three Kings open it again," since hers is the last major saint's day before the beginning of Advent.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 6, 2005 1:23 pm (#940 of 2980)

Hey everyone.

Thanks for everyone for the strengthening charms for Aaron!!

As to the subject of tattoos. I agree that the amount of pain depends greatly on where on your body the tattoo is. I did get one with Aaron last weekend, and it was my second tattoo. My first one was on my hip and to be completely honest, it hurt. A lot. But then again, I'm kind of a baby when it comes to pain. The second one I got last weekend didn't hurt too bad. I got that one on my lower back, off to the side. It didn't hurt as bad. The general rule is that the more fatty or muscular tissue in the area, the less it will hurt...

Speaking of the tattoo I got this past weekend Madam Pince: Aaron and I got the tribal wings I had designed with slightly deifferent sayings on each one. Aaron's says "ne letum quidem now seiungere potest" (the version of my saying you gave me) and mine says "nec mors nos spearabit" (the version of "nor will death separate us" that Finn gave me). Aaron really wanted the longer version, but it was too long for my tattoo because mine is smaller then his.

But anyway, I'm off to (hopefully) check and post on the threads (if I don't run out of time this time!!)



Lina - Oct 6, 2005 1:31 pm (#941 of 2980)

Haymoni, I agree with you, what I don't like about tattoos is that they are too permanent. I like the henna tattoos though. They last for some time and then disappear. Then you can do something different. I don't like to have the same hairstyle for a long time neither. If I had a lot of money I would probably have several wigs and several glasses. I read somewhere that Leos like changes, but they don't make those changes all in the same way. My grandmother liked to move the furniture around the flat all the time. I would come home from school and ask: "Where is my room today?" Well, it used to happen only like 3 times a year.

Audry, on the name day, I would just add that orthodox people celebrate it even more than catholic, at least it is so here in "my" part of the world. Name days are even more important than birthdays.

Of course that you would care about St. Cecilia's day, Brightwater!

We decided to name Kate after a known Croatian Lady: Katarina Zrinska. She was very good and caring for the poor. But then her husband got killed and she became poor and homeless. So the people who she used to help before were helping her and her children later. But she never became saint, so we decided to celebrate Kate's name day in a very classical way. There is a song in Croatian about St. Catherine:
Sveta Kata,
Snijeg na vrata
(On St. Catherine's,
The snow is on your doorstep.)
So I don't believe that the people here choose this day to plant the trees. There are some other sayings, something like the weather of one day shows the weather of another day or some other month, but I don't remember what are those days. My grandmother used to repeat all those sayings but I guess I didn't listen to her too carefully.


haymoni - Oct 6, 2005 1:53 pm (#942 of 2980)

Lina - I am a Leo! Maybe that explains it!


Madam Pince - Oct 6, 2005 1:57 pm (#943 of 2980)

Your tattoos sound great, Jenn! I will tell my cousin and she will be very pleased, I'm sure.

Lina, there was a big story in our news not very long ago about henna tattoos. (Mr. Pince got one a couple years ago at the beach at Ocean City -- it's a popular beach-thing-to-do -- and it was fine; it lasted a couple weeks I think.) But anyway, this news story was about a young girl who got what she thought was a temporary henna tattoo at the beach, but apparently there's two kinds of henna -- brown and black. The brown is harmless, but the black can be toxic (it is also cheap, so that is why the less reputable tattoo artists use it, although it is supposed to be illegal.) So this young girl got some sort of nasty infection from the black henna, and now she has this permanent scar in the shape of the tattoo on her. Fortunately the tattoo was at least an attractive swirly sort of abstract design, and not something like Tweety Bird or the Bratz cartoons or something, because it's there for the rest of her life!

A lady I know decorates her kitchen with a watermelon motif, and she decided to be a little "wild" for her 50th birthday and so she got a tattoo of a watermelon on her ankle. She said it didn't hurt at all. It looks OK, but I've just never felt the desire for one. (Squid Mike, while we were at Ocean City Mr. Pince saw a guy with a Minnesota Vikings tattoo on his arm and he really really really wants to get one. I must admit it was very well done, but I still wouldn't care for it, I don't think.)

Mandy, I meant to ask last night how you were feeling -- glad you've seen a doctor and hopefully now you will be on the road to recovery! I was starting to worry about you!

OK, off to "lowly gag" awhile... Tee-hee!


Finn BV - Oct 6, 2005 4:30 pm (#944 of 2980)

Thank you, Elanor, for your explanation on namedays. I see it has sparked a whole discussion now.

Jenn, again my thoughts are with Aaron and I hope your tattoos prove to be untrue, that you will see him again many more times!

Well, I've got to get packed – my cousin is getting married Saturday and we're leaving way early tomorrow morning. Doubt we'll see each other until late Sunday or so.

Oh, and I'm 2 for 2 in Cross-Country… I got first again today! It was a lot more close this time… but I still did it, so I'm quite happy!

Until later…


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 6, 2005 6:31 pm (#945 of 2980)

Good job, Finn. Congrats to your cousin.

I never really thought about getting a tattoo before reading HBP, but now I kind of like that Hungarian Horntail idea.


Stephanie M. - Oct 6, 2005 7:08 pm (#946 of 2980)

Congratulations Finn!!! I wish I was there to see it. Have fun at the wedding!! Wish them very happy years for me, even though they probably have no idea who I am...

LOL Vlad! If you get a Hungarian Horntail as a tattoo, I would love to see it. Maybe I will convince one of my friends to get one done, but most of my friends are only 13 or they aren't as big Harry Potter fans as we are.

Good night and sleep tight everyone!


The giant squid - Oct 7, 2005 12:00 am (#947 of 2980)

So you've suffered a lot of head injuries, Mike. Why am I not shocked?--I Am Used Vlad

Congrats, Finn! I've always been a little envious of long distance runners. I'm more of a natural sprinter, myself--I run out of energy after a few hundred yards....

As for tattoos...I'll leave that to Marie. Actually, I used to have a roommate that tattooed as a side job (very clean and professional). He told me he'd give me one for free just for the shock value, but I chickened out. Just as well, because I now hate what I had planned.



Lina - Oct 7, 2005 12:15 am (#948 of 2980)

Thank you for your warning, Madam Pince, now I know what to check before the tattooing. (Do I?)

Mike, I guess that a squid would be just appropriate, wouldn't it?


Amilia Smith - Oct 7, 2005 12:35 am (#949 of 2980)

Wallace and Gromit comes out tomorrow. :-)

Sorry, that didn't have anything to do with the current conversation, but I'm excited.



Loopy Lupin - Oct 7, 2005 7:01 am (#950 of 2980)

I'm more of a natural sprinter, myself--I run out of energy after a few hundred yards.... – Mike

Very dangerous over short distances are ye? ****Looks around for Catherine*****
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haymoni - Oct 7, 2005 8:02 am (#951 of 2980)

Bad news today.

Just found out one of our employees lost a son in Iraq.

20 years old.

Don't have any details yet.

Keep praying everyone.


kaykay1970 - Oct 7, 2005 9:07 am (#952 of 2980)

Haymoni I am so sorry. I will be thinking about this young man's family.


Esther Rose - Oct 7, 2005 9:39 am (#953 of 2980)

I hate war. I am sorry about the loss. All soldiers and their families are in my prayers. Peace can't come soon enough.


Ydnam96 - Oct 7, 2005 9:45 am (#954 of 2980)

Haymoni, I too am sorry I will definetly be praying.

Loopy Lupin, I was thinking the exact same thing!
Mike, you don't exactly have the build for a dwarf...although I always supsected that Gimli was stretching the truth a bit when he said that dwarves were natural sprinters I would believe that a tall thin guy would be though Wink

It's Friday. Yay. I asked my boss if I could un-officially take the weekend off. See we are allowed to go out of town for the weekend once or twice a month if we want (since we live at our jobs it's a little hard to take off time if you are still here). I mean, we don't actually have to take vacation days but, well it's complicated, anyway. I have no money to actually go away to anyplace so I asked if it would be okay if I just put a sign on my door saying I was "unavailable" and not answer the door or the phone all weekend and he said that was fine. I'm so excited!! If you've never lived at your job it would be hard to understand, but not having to answer the door is a big deal. Yay.

Edit: I just realized that for all the parents out there you would realize what that is like! It's funny cause I don't have kids but I really do...I have over 300 18-21 year olds. It's exhausting (but good most of the time).


kaykay1970 - Oct 7, 2005 10:55 am (#955 of 2980)

I'm sure my children will be as excited as you are Ydnam that it is Friday. They are out of school all next week for fall break! I'm excited myself because I get to spend more time with them. It is hard to have "quality" time when you have to make sure homework is done.


Denise P. - Oct 7, 2005 11:09 am (#956 of 2980)

My kids don't get a "fall break" but they may as well call it that. They have Monday off for Columbus Day and then Tuesday AND Wednesday as well for teacher inservice.

I got some pictures in email that I found pretty incredible. They are newborn babies made out of marzipan. If there was not a size reference and you didn't know it was marzipan, you would think they were actual babies. I have a link in my profile for those who may be interested.

Sorry to hear about your friends loss, haymoni.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 7, 2005 12:09 pm (#957 of 2980)

Hey Denise

Snopes (the urban legend site) is saying that those babies aren't marzipan but rather just remarkable figurines by the artist Camille Allen who apparently specializes in dolls and baby figurines. I'd post a link, but Snopes isn't always forum friendly. So, everyone will just have to Google it for themselves. (Hint: It'll be in the "What's New" section of the Snopes site.)


Denise P. - Oct 7, 2005 1:48 pm (#958 of 2980)

You know, I blast people who fwd me emails about soft drink factors having people put stuff in the cans, dialing help on the cell phone etc before they check to see if it is true....never thought to check Snopes for those. Sorry everyone!!


kaykay1970 - Oct 7, 2005 2:35 pm (#959 of 2980)

I'm on my way to the hospital as soon as Mom gets ready. The nursing home thinks my Grandmother has passed away. Her heart is beating but they think that is only because of her pace maker. They are sending her for a brain scan to be sure.


haymoni - Oct 7, 2005 3:25 pm (#960 of 2980)

Goodness! Disaster abounds today!

Thinking of you, kay!


Madam Pince - Oct 7, 2005 5:56 pm (#961 of 2980)

Oh, I'm sorry to hear the news from both haymoni and kay -- sending out thoughts and prayers to both of you, and a few Strengthening Charms, too, for good measure. (((hugs)))


T Brightwater - Oct 7, 2005 6:28 pm (#962 of 2980)

kaykay and haymoni, my prayers and sympathy are with you.

My condolences also to the Red Sox fans on the Forum, but GO WHITE SOX!! (Good thing it didn't rain or we'd have had Pink Sox...)


dizzy lizzy - Oct 7, 2005 9:43 pm (#963 of 2980)

It doesn't sound like a good friday at all!!

A ((hug)) to those who need them!



kaykay1970 - Oct 7, 2005 11:09 pm (#964 of 2980)

My Grandmother was barely alive when she got to the hospital. They think she had a stroke. Her blood pressure was 50/40. She passed away at 11:00 p.m.(9:00 forum time.) I was holding her hand when she slipped away. I'm so glad I got to tell her goodbye and I love you. Thanks for your prayers. It's going to be a long weekend.


Snuffles - Oct 8, 2005 12:57 am (#965 of 2980)

Haymoni, I'm sorry to hear of your co-workers loss, 20 years old, it seems so unfair.

kaykay1970, my thoughts are with you, at least you were there and hopefully your Grandmother realised that. It has been 5 years since I lost my Grandmother and I still miss her.

Lets hope everyone has nothing but good news for the rest of the weekend.



The giant squid - Oct 8, 2005 1:42 am (#966 of 2980)

My heartfelt condolences, kaykay. My thoughts go to haymoni's coworker as well.

Loopy & Mandy, I was wondering if anyone would catch the Gimli-esque nature of my post. It wasn't meant that way, but as soon as I posted it I thought, "y'know, that sounds like..."

So I've been having trouble with a java-based program running r e a l l y slowly lately and everyone suggested I add more RAM to my system...so I did. I doubled it today from 384Mb to 768Mb. Naturally, the program that started it all is still acting up, but I'm noticing a lot of other things running a lot quicker (including the Forum)! One of these days I might actually realize the full potential of this high-speed internet thing...



Lina - Oct 8, 2005 4:14 am (#967 of 2980)

Haymoni, ((hugs)) to you and your friend. There are no words that can bring comfort when a person looses a child.

Kaykay, I'm sorry for your loss, but you know that you have done everything to make her last years easier and better. ((Hugs)) to you and your family as well. I'm glad you were able to say good bye.

Loopy Lupin: ****Looks around for Catherine*****
I join the search...

Mike, some really odd amount of RAM...?

We are celebrating The Independence Day here today. Unfortunately, it's Saturday and it's raining. I wish it were Friday or Monday and sunny. We had a lot of changing of the festivity days since the independence occurred, actually, so my husband's suggestion was that they should change them every year in a way that they happen always on Fridays and Mondays.


Elanor - Oct 8, 2005 4:38 am (#968 of 2980)

Haymoni, Kaykay, you're in my thoughts and prayers! (((((((((hugs)))))))))

Grand-parents have such a special place in our lives, haven't they? My grand-mother died 5 years ago and she was the last grand-parent I still had. She would have turned 100 on October 10th. She always loved celebrating her birthday and we always had great family reunions on that occasion, especially when she turned 80 and 90 and we were always teasing her by saying that her 100th birthday celebration would have to be even more memorable. So, my brother thought it would be a good idea to have a family dinner for her 100th birthday anyway, even if she is amongst us anymore, in her honour and in memory of all the great time we had with her. And tomorrow, we're going to have that dinner, which promesies to be a happy moment, before visiting the cemetery and bring some flowers there.

Does it seem a weird idea? After all, the 100th birthday (or 200th, etc...) of famous people is often celebrated, and I think my grand-ma, not famous but who was quite a formidable person, deserves it just the same!

Lina, too bad indeed! I hope you will have a great weekend nevertheless.


Marie E. - Oct 8, 2005 7:06 am (#969 of 2980)

I think sounds like a wonderful idea, Elanor. I asked my grandmother once if she wanted to live to be 100 and she said, "Heavens, no. Who'd want to live that long? I'm tired enough now." She was about 80 when she said that.

The only time I've seen my brother sprint is when my girls are chasing him.

I think Lexie may have croup. She's got the barky, seal-like cough. Problem is, we're supposed to go to the zoo day with the Girl Scouts. I'm not sure if I should take her to the doctor or not. I may call the nurse on call to see what they think.

Marie in Colorado where it hasn't snowed yet...


Lina - Oct 8, 2005 7:13 am (#970 of 2980)

Elanor, I think it is a great idea! After all, the grandparents are always a good reason for the family reunion and I think that the family reunions are a great treasure worth cherishing, so what could be the better combination than organizing a family reunion in honor of the grandparents even though they are not among us any more?

Obviously, thanks to the rainy holiday, I have more time for the Forum.


Madam Pince - Oct 8, 2005 7:19 am (#971 of 2980)

Kay, you have our condolences (((hugs))). I am glad that you were able to be with your Grandma for a while at the last - you will always remember that and be glad for that. Hopefully the happy memories you have of her will give you the strength to get through all you need to in the next few days.

Elanor, I don't think that idea sounds odd at all -- I think it sounds wonderful! In Victorian times here in the U.S. (well, even later, too, I think) it was quite common for families to actually hold their Sunday picnics in the cemeteries -- they were nice, pretty, peaceful, grassy places, and you could sort of "share" the family time with memories of your departed ones. So I think your idea sounds great. We used to have a family reunion / picnic for my grandmother's birthday, too -- she was considerate enough to have been born on July 7th, so it was near our Independence Day celebrations and a lot of people had time off from work for that, so it worked out well for those who had to travel from far away. Grandma lived to be 97, and was a wonderful person.

Well, we're finally having rain here -- yippee! It's been so seriously dry for forever, it seems, and now there's some tropical storm moving over us and it's supposed to rain all weekend. This is great for the earth outside, but it's a teensy bit bittersweet, as we had planned to go to our cabin this weekend and paint the shed and go fishing, neither of which can be done in the rain, so I don't think we're going after all. The one weekend we have a long weekend (because here Monday is Columbus Day and Mr. Pince has the day off) and it rains. But can't complain too much as we sooooo needed the rain.

Congrats to Finn on winning at track again!

Lina, that's a very cheery avatar for a rainy weekend that you and I are having!

Everyone have a great weekend!


CatherineHermiona - Oct 8, 2005 10:21 am (#972 of 2980)

Yesterday was the last day that we had class with our homeroom teacher - English teacher. We bought a big peluche elephant and bouquet with lilies and a greeting card that we all signed on. We had an English exam too and you should see us. We asked one each other answers loud and we asked teacher too and she told us every answer. If there will be Fs.................

My thoughts and prays are with everyone who need some.



Chemyst - Oct 8, 2005 10:43 am (#973 of 2980)

Kate, should I be wishing you Happy Independence Day? Isn't October 8th the official date that Croatia severed ties from Yugoslavia? Do you have any celebrations?

Condolences Kaykay.

T Brightwater, I enjoyed the link to your lute group.


CatherineHermiona - Oct 8, 2005 10:46 am (#974 of 2980)

Yes, my mother wrote that already, Chemyst. Thanks! I just feel so sorry it's on Saturday.

And I'm still on chat.



Herm oh ninny - Oct 8, 2005 2:09 pm (#975 of 2980)

Hello all!

Kaykay, you have my condolences and prayers. And here is a ((hug))

Well, last night, after a week of contractions every 8 minutes (is that normal??), my cousin took his wife to the hospital. At 2:28 am, Perry Michael came into the world!! Weighing in at 6 1/2 pounds, he is simply tiny. And sooo cute!! Ahhh, I'm soo excited! (I wonder if Sirius felt this way LOL) Well, I'm off to the mall to buy a little present for his older (2yr old) sister. I don't want to increase her jealousy by not bringing her something too! She has already told us all that the crib and bassinet are HERS, not her brothers!! LOL


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 8, 2005 5:52 pm (#976 of 2980)

You have my condolences, Kaykay.

Congrats, Herm oh ninny.

Today I finally got my copy of HBP back from one of my nephews, who just read the books for the first time. He told me that he thinks Harry's parents might still be alive since Harry didn't see the thestrals until OotP. While he is way behind the times, I thought that was a pretty astute observation for an eleven-year-old. I never thought of that until I read about it here. Perhaps I should have him join the forum.


Stephanie M. - Oct 8, 2005 10:22 pm (#977 of 2980)

I'm so sorry to kaykay and Haymoni.

I just quickly skimmed through a ton of posts in this thread.

I have been very busy recently. Today I woke up took a shower and then met one of my friends from another school. We were going to see In Her Shoes, but it was sold out so we saw Corpse Bride instead. And I must agree with Finn, the previews before Corpse Bribe were VERY good, except they didn't have Harry. Corpse Bride was better than I expected, but I had pretty low expectations. It was good though. Then I went back to my friends house and then I took a taxi back to my house (It was pouring rain and I got splashed my a car.) So then as soon as I got home my English tutor was waiting for me. Then I had her for an hour and I took another shower and then got ready for a Bar Mitzvah. The Bar Mitzvah was very long and I didn't have a lot of friends there and my feet are about to fall off. So I guess it was and Okay Bar Mitzvah, but I wish I had more friends there. So I just got back (a little after 1 AM.) and I'm not that tired, but I'll probably fall asleep soon.

Tomorrow I'm doing a ton of homework because on Monday I am leaving my house at the latest 6 AM to go to Penn. And I'll probably get home late at night and then have school the next day.

Well, I'm off to bed. Good night everyone! Sleep tight! And I hope that everyone has happy dreams relating to Harry Potter.


 The giant squid - Oct 8, 2005 10:50 pm (#978 of 2980)

Lina, my RAM numbers do look odd, but it all makes sense, honest. I started out with two RAM chips--a 128Mb and a 256Mb (I'm really not sure why). Yesterday I pulled the 128 and added 2 more 256 chips.

When all else fails, divide by 64...all memory chips are multiples of 64.
16*64=1024 (the next step up; 1024Mb=1Gb, not 1000 as one would expect. I can remember this, but have no idea what I had for lunch two days ago )

Marie: I did sprint before you had the girls. I was on the track team in junior high for about 3 weeks, until I fractured my wrist. Never got back into it after that, though.



TwinklingBlueEyes - Oct 9, 2005 12:11 am (#979 of 2980)

Hey all, sorry haven't said much but been extremely busy since both hurricanes. FEMA inspector finally got to me today, (6 weeks later), and declared my home unlivable. No inkling from her what my options are now, all she knew was her job. So, is 2 am, I am going to get in line to see if I can get help or answers from Red Cross that opens at 9am.(As I wait to hear what FEMA thinks I am going to do next). Wish me luck and I'll see you when I can.

...toddles off to join the line to complete idiocy...


CatherineHermiona - Oct 9, 2005 2:51 am (#980 of 2980)

I'm so sorry your home was declared as unlivable, TBE. I hope everything will turn out right at the end.

Three years ago Kids Eurovision started. Our competitor, Dino Jelušic, with his song Ti si moja prva ljubav (You are my one and only) won the whole competition. We were so happy. First year and we won! Second year little 7 years old Nika won our competition and ended up 3rd on Eurovision. This year we are waiting for Eurovision and on our competition Dino's sister won. That family is talented.

I almost forgot to ask: did anyone heard of or read books about Laura Leander, writer Peter Freund?



Ydnam96 - Oct 9, 2005 5:32 am (#981 of 2980)

TBE, so sorry to hear that. I hope that the Red Cross is able to provide you with some answers. Did the FEMA person tell you if you can live in it until they give you options or do you have to move out to a shelter? What about the horses? I don't think that the Red Cross will allow them at a shelter...I hope that you get some answers soon!

Isn't it amazing, the Red Cross that is? This is their biggest deployment ever. In a few months people across America will forget about the needs down South but the Red Cross will still be there. The head of our chapter here in LA said that they will probably be there for at least 6 months if not longer. I am proud to say that several of my resident assistants are going with the Red Cross as volunteers for 9 days each. The university is allowing students, faculty, and staff to go for 9 days to help with the effort. The Red Cross has come to the school, trained thousands of our students and community members, and are set to deploy them all in stages for the next several months. I think it's awesome that the school is allowing the students and the staff to take the time out of their semester and do this...

Anyway...off my soap box. Kate, I have not heard of those books.

Kaykay and Haymoni you both have my sympathies and prayers.

So it's way early on a Sunday morning and I can't sleep...but hopefully I'll play around on the forum a bit and then get some more sleep in. At least I'm feeling better! Got to love those antibiotics


Marie E. - Oct 9, 2005 7:05 am (#982 of 2980)

TBE, I hope things work out for you with your house. Did they say what needed to be done to make it "livable"?

My daughter Lexie is feeling better, but now I'm getting sick. It was just a sinus thing but it has settled in my chest. I'm hoping it's just a sinus infection. I can't go to the doctor tomorrow because we're doing our professional development training. Some of you may remember last February I had to do a training session on our kindergarten curriculum. I thought I'd gotten out of it this time but my assistant director wants me to help her out during her training.

I was supposed to go to a friend's house today to play HP games but they're predicting snow and she lives in the mountains. Now I'm going to a boring potluck lunch with my husband and some people from his second job. They are all crashing boring and hopefully not on this forum.

I don't remember my brother being in track, but I do remember him getting in trouble at school for hitting someone with his casted arm. I was freshman or sophmore in high school then and didn't pay much attention to my little brother unless he was in trouble.


Denise P. - Oct 9, 2005 7:39 am (#983 of 2980)

That stinks TBE, I hope you get some answers that you can actually put into effect.

I finally saw Serenity I really liked it but I am not so happy about a few things and darn it, I missed my theme music!! It neatly wrapped up a few things, left a few things open so there is still room for another movie.


haymoni - Oct 9, 2005 8:48 am (#984 of 2980)

kaykay - Losing a grandmother is very difficult. They are such special people.

Getting ready to watch the Browns and the Bears. I just want the Brownies to win 1 game - please!!!! We really need this!

Things are pretty chilly here - nice fall weather. We may even have a fire in the woodburner today - if all of our wood isn't wet, that is!

Have a great Sunday all!


Elanor - Oct 9, 2005 11:19 am (#985 of 2980)

TBE, I am so sorry! I do hope things will get better for you very soon! (((((((((hugs))))))))))

Thanks for your kind posts about the 100th birthday celebration everyone! We did it today and it was really great: the dinner was very good, the weather perfect and we had a lot of fun together remembering happy moments and sharing that meal. So, it was indeed a good idea!

Yesterday evening, I was watching the TV when something strange happened to me: I suddenly had the feeling I must had somehow used a time-turner without knowing it... Here, on the screen, were the Simple Minds guys, with a brand new album and it was (ok, nearly) sounding like the Simple Minds I was listening to when I was a teenager in the 80s (remember "Don't you" or "Mandela day"?)! I couldn't believe my eyes ears!

It was really good. Any fans of the Scottish band here? They were amongst the bands I was listening to the most then, along with U2 (but they will never get old!), Sting, Depeche Mode, Johnny Clegg or INXS... **remembering fondly when I was writing "Be yourself, no matter what they say" everywhere on my notebooks and had a crush on Bono**

Have a great day everybody!


CatherineHermiona - Oct 9, 2005 11:40 am (#986 of 2980)

I get the call from coacher now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm starting my trainings tomorrow after school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was the reason I was so looking forward to October (that and Croatian translation of HBP). I can't wait to start shooting. I should be promoted and get air rifle with diopter because my results came to 160. I'm so happy!

When we gave our teacher the elephant she told us: "Is it for good luck?". We told: "Yes!" with faces like this:.



Chemyst - Oct 9, 2005 4:36 pm (#987 of 2980)

I can remember this, but have no idea what I had for lunch two days ago. - Giant Squid
Well, unless your wife spent a sizable percentage of her day fixing that lunch, I'd say you have gotten your priorities sorted. This lack of obsession with food goes a long way in explaining the "thin."

TBE- your requested luck charms are on the way. Is "unlivable" better than "condemned" (does it mean it can be fixed)?

Audrey, the 100th birthday celebration sounded lovely. You should make plans for the Eleventy-first one too.

Woo-hoo Kate! Are we going to see you on the Croatian Olympic team someday? Women’s 10m air rifle? ...although I don't think they can use scopes in that event, just regular sights with no lens.
   A 'diopter' measures how powerful a lens is. A 'scope' is a lens (like a small telescope) that is put on a rifle to help you see and "line up" (aim at) the target.


Finn BV - Oct 9, 2005 5:32 pm (#988 of 2980)

Wallace and Gromit comes out tomorrow. :-) –Mills

I have to go see it!! Please tell me how it was…

Haymoni and kaykay, my extreme sympathy with you and the families close to the individuals. (((hugs)))

Thanks for the XC (cross-country) congrats, everyone. We have tomorrow off for Columbus Day, but Tuesday we have yet another meet!

Congrats, Herm oh ninny! Is this the baby you are the godmother of?

Elanor, happy belated 100th birthday to your grandmother. I was listening to Victor Borge the other day who, amid his jokes told a true statement – the other week (this is in the 50s, I guess) he celebrated his uncle's 103rd birthday. No laughs, but good applause. Then he said, "Unfortunately, he wasn't present. How couuld he? He died when he was 27." Anyway, Elanor, congratulations. All people deserve that recognition TBE, great the news on your house is reported to you so soon… Best of luck with finding a new situation.

Kate, great you had a good time with your teacher on her last day. And congrats on your rifle work! Keep telling us how it goes.

Well, I had a great time in Buffalo this weekend. My cousin looked gorgeous, and it was great to see how much her husband loves her. They were off to Aruba at 7:15 this morning! And they partied all night, I don't know how they got up!

Holiday tomorrow but I've got to catch up on the HW I missed.

Edit: **waves to Gabby** Welcome to the Forum Gabby, and all new members! Gabby, I knew it was you from your name even before I read that it was really you!

Edit 2: Happy half-birthday Steph! LOL


Stephanie M. - Oct 9, 2005 5:47 pm (#989 of 2980)

Welcome back Finn. I'm glad you had a good time! My parents went to Aruba for their honeymoon. I have to say that is really weird because my mom is from Buffalo.

Kate, I'm glad you are so happy!!

Well, I'm off to do the rest of my homework before tomorrow.

Edit: I just realized that today is my half birthday. I guess it was a little late to realize because the night it almost over. Oh well.


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 9, 2005 9:40 pm (#990 of 2980)

I saw Wallace and Gromit today. Everyone should go see it. It was great. The cartoon they showed before it, featuring the penguins from Madagascar, was funny, too.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 10, 2005 6:28 am (#991 of 2980)

Congrats to Finn and condolences to Kaykay.

Mmmmm. I wonder if Catherine survived her last day of school on Friday?


Eponine - Oct 10, 2005 7:35 am (#992 of 2980)

Hello, all. It's raining here today, and it makes me want to stay inside wrapped up in a blanket all day long.

I wanted to share a rather humorous link with everyone. It's a video of a dance team. They're all dressed up in Hogwart's robes, and Harry, Ron, Hermione and Malfoy all put in an appearance. Go here to see the video.

I hope everyone is having a great day.


Ydnam96 - Oct 10, 2005 8:31 am (#993 of 2980)

That's a pretty good dance team...to have made all that up themselves. Smile

Ohhhh Monday....


Elanor - Oct 10, 2005 8:44 am (#994 of 2980)

I just pop in to wish the most marvelous birthday to T Brightwater! I hope it full of sun, laughters and love.

Have a great day everybody!


The giant squid - Oct 10, 2005 8:50 am (#995 of 2980)

Good luck on the housing situation, TBE. My wife's family dealt with a similar problem back in '94 with the Northridge earthquake in Southern California. Their house wasn't deemed unlivable, but the "compassionate" response from the adjuster was about the same.

“Your furnace is unusable.”
“Okay, what do we do about it?”
“I don't know, I'm just here to tell you you can't use it.”

I hope your waiting in line at Red Cross was worth it!



Finn BV - Oct 10, 2005 8:50 am (#996 of 2980)

Yes, Happy Bday T Brightwater!

LOL on the link Eponine. They aren't bad for dancers, and from a distance the trio sort of looks like them, as does Malfoy. Although where did they cast Crabbe and Goyle from??

Have a good day everyone. It's a bit overcast here.


azi - Oct 10, 2005 9:02 am (#997 of 2980)

Yay! I got my Internet back about 24 hours after I lost it. That was only after many hours of queueing though. Many many hours. I think I spent most of today queueing and not being sure where to queue next.

My uni room is *huge*. As big as my bedroom at home, and that's the largest room in the house! I found myself some nice geeky guys to hang around with and be unsociable, whilst still being on hello terms with the girls on my floor (who, although nice, are completely different to me on everything).

TBE, I really hope everything turns out ok for you!

Congrats Kate!

Happy birthday T. Brightwater!

Everyone have a sunny day!


Lina - Oct 10, 2005 10:23 am (#998 of 2980)

TBE, it was so good to see you on the Forum but with the bad news unfortunately. I find it difficult to understand that the house was survavable without the evacuation during the hurricane, but it is not livable now. I just hope that the things will get settled and that you will have better news next time.

Mike the squid: When all else fails, divide by 64...all memory chips are multiples of 64.
Says who? I had a computer with 32 Mb of RAM! Then we bought the Harry Potter game and it ran so slow... Then my husband came to the genial idea to put the RAM from the Mac into the PC and then we were proven that every electronic device is working on white smoke. When the white smoke lives the device, it stops working. And that's how we bought a new computer (because of the Harry Potter game). There is a song somewhere on the net about people who went to the Moon with 32 Kb of RAM...

Eponine, the video was great. I didn't even get the conjuring of Patroni, my daughter, who doesn't read the books, caught it! I really love this forum!

Brightwater (again)!

And happy Columbus Day to everyone who celebrate!

Azi, I'm glad that being on the uni won't take you away from us!


 CatherineHermiona - Oct 10, 2005 10:41 am (#999 of 2980)

Happy birthday, T Brightwater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Today I came from school with grades like this: C, A, A, A. Ofcourse my mum will first ask: "What did you get C from?", never, "What did you get an A from?".

Eponine, the video is great!!!!!!!!!!!



Mrs. Sirius - Oct 10, 2005 11:30 am (#1000 of 2980)

TBE, so sorry to hear about your home TBE. Since the Katrina hit I have been taking calls for the Red Cross. I must confess that when it comes to the Red Cross and FEMA, I am very confused and upset. I sit in my warm comfortable and habitable home in New England (we have heavy rains from hurricane Stan (I think).

I take calls from people who are in desperate need of all types of services. The calls I answer are just for people in search of missing loved ones, all we are equipped to do is search from people by last name first name, or to register someone who wants to be contacted. If they need other services we refer back to the local Red Cross. It is so frustrating to not be able to do more. One woman wanted to get an address so that she could register her child in a school, another lost everything and had medical problems. The list goes on.

I hope TBE, that you don't get to much of a run-a-round. I think of you often when I take calls. Seeing you post gives hope that some normalcy is happening.

(((((((Hugs)))))) to TBE and all the other who have recently post in need of one.
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Viola Intonada - Oct 10, 2005 4:13 pm (#1001 of 2980)

TBE, I hope everything goes better for you.

Eopine, I loved the dance video. It was very creative.

Way back in 1981, we got an Atari 400 computer. It had 16K. A couple of years later we upgraded to an Atari 800 which had 64K. We probably paid more money for it that you would for many computers today. It's amazing how technology changes and gets cheaper. (We bought our first VCR at the same time, a Sony Beta machine.)


azi - Oct 10, 2005 4:39 pm (#1002 of 2980)

Wow, those are really good grades Kate! I got a C in one of my exams last year and had a lot of trouble at home. I just ignored it and improved that grade to an A in my next exams!

Old computers...we had an Acorn at home when I was younger, in the days before the local school even had a computer. No idea what its technical stuff were, but I know it cost over £1000 (apparently over US$1700, but don't trust the currency converter). In contrast, my new computer was half of that!

I just got back from a student event thing on campus, going round all the bars. It took 50 minutes to get served because the queues were so long! I also only wanted a coke...


boop - Oct 10, 2005 4:50 pm (#1003 of 2980)

Happy Birthday T Brightwater, have a great day!!!


T Brightwater - Oct 10, 2005 5:10 pm (#1004 of 2980)

Thanks for all the birthday wishes! It's been cold and cloudy here, so I've spent most of the day on the couch with a cat, a cup of tea, and a good book (Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell). Ah, bliss! And thanks, Chemyst, I'm glad you enjoyed the website!

TBE, very sorry to hear about your troubles. Bureaucracy is just what a person needs after two hurricanes, don't you think? :-/ Hope things work out for you soon.

Kate, congratulations!


Catherine - Oct 10, 2005 5:32 pm (#1005 of 2980)

Very dangerous over short distances are ye? ****Looks around for Catherine*****--Loopy Lupin

Halloooo!!! ::waves to Loopy and the Forum from the distance of time spent away...:::

Thanks for asking. I did indeed survive, and I miss those darn bozos (clowns, for non-native English speakers) like crazy. I took my kids on vacation until today at 4 p.m. We visited my mom, did the museums, and had an amazing time.

Part of my guilty thoughts were....I can't wait to have time to chat on the Forum. Other guilty thoughts were....Woo hoo! No adolescents until the end of the week! (I sub for 6th grade on Thursday and Friday, alas earwax. They are not nearly as charming as the class I broke in for the first 6 weeks of school, but there you go. It takes time to get used to me! )

It's been wonderful to get friendly support the last two months as I took on a new teaching project, and I am so happy to know that my friends are here now that it has ended, and I feel sad.


Madam Pince - Oct 10, 2005 6:10 pm (#1006 of 2980)

Happy Birthday, T Brightwater, and many many more!

Kate, I know what you mean about the grades, but maybe your Mom will surprise you. I know I used to get annoyed with my Mom because often after a day of cleaning up my room or doing some other chore, she would just look around and say "You haven't done the dishes," or something. I was always "Hey, what about the dusting I did? And look, my bed is made!" Anyway, the upshot of it all is that I probably praise Little Pince more than I ought to, because I try to notice all the good things he does and comment on them; I remember how it felt the other way around. (Now, that sounds like my Mom was a terrible Mom, which she certainly wasn't, it's just that she had a full-time job and also had to take care of grandparents and she had a lot to distract her -- I'm fortunate in that I can focus more on just my immediate family for the time being.) Anyway, good job Kate on the grades!

TBE, I'm sorry to hear about your house. It must be so frustrating to be practically starting over from scratch. I will be thinking about you and sending out good wishes for a quick fix to all your housing woes. Hope all goes quickly and as well as possible!


Viola Intonada - Oct 10, 2005 7:13 pm (#1007 of 2980)

LOL, Madam Pince, my husband complains that I am the same way with him!!! (That I only notice the things he didn't do, rather than the things that he did do) My theory is that I don't want to praise him on the things he did too much, because then he will think he did everything he needed to do and not do anything more that I thought should have been done. Matter of fact, just today he did the laundry for me (he had today off, I did not). He put all the clothes thru the washer and dryer, but only folded and put away his clothes. There was a huge mound of unfolded clothes on the bed and he couldn't understand why I wasn't pleased. No rest for the weary.....Alas, earwax.


Lina - Oct 10, 2005 10:38 pm (#1008 of 2980)

Oh, Viola, I'm with you. Yesterday I complained about my husband leaving the magazine on the floor and he asked: "What's the problem, I made you a coffee!"


haymoni - Oct 11, 2005 4:06 am (#1009 of 2980)

Being a lazy government worker, I had yesterday off. I sent the kids to school, vacuumed the family room and living room (again!!!) and then started in on my kitchen.

I went to town - I pulled everything off the countertops, the top of the refrigerator - even the stuff on top of the cupboards. I washed everything down - vacuumed about 3 more times - and cleaned off the oven. (No dragon blood was used.)

Hubby came home around noon and we started building a privacy fence on the side of our deck. I came in and put everything away and made dinner. Hubby went back to work and I washed the kitchen floor after everything was put away.

I ache all over! I need to get back to work, so I can get some rest!


Snuffles - Oct 11, 2005 4:27 am (#1010 of 2980)

Well done on the productive day haymoni! It made me tired just reading it! Lol

I often feel like that after the weekend, let me get back to work for a rest and a read of the forum!!!!

Can't really complain about hubby on the clean and tidy front. He does help around the house as long as its only one job at a time!! Give him a job and 1 daughter and it goes pear shape! Bless!!

Have a good day everyone



Chemyst - Oct 11, 2005 5:10 am (#1011 of 2980)

Your're right Madam Pince. It is hard to balance the amount of praise to give a kid, and every kid needs a different amount and the amount varies with the task and natural ability. My mom was always afraid I'd get a big head, so she gave me so little praise I'd often give up when just a simple word would have kept me going. I used to have a poster that said "I can live for two months on a good compliment."

This got only a minor blurb on the US news, but,
 A pre-dawn fire today in southwest England destroyed hundreds of clay model characters, props and sets used in the quintessentially British animated films Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run. Aardman Animations officials said most of the material fronm the recent Curse of the Were-Rabbit were out on display, so not affected. One of the big things that's gone is the pie machine from the Chicken Run movie.

I guess there are a lot greater catasrophes occurring around the world. but it is still sad.


haymoni - Oct 11, 2005 7:24 am (#1012 of 2980)

Chemyst - I caught the tail end of that and, selfish me, all I could think was "Phew! The Harry Potter stuff is safe!"

Selfish, selfish me!


Viola Intonada - Oct 11, 2005 9:22 am (#1013 of 2980)

Haymoni, Are you trying to become Denise? I'm astounded at what you accomplished before lunch. I have a very difficult time getting anything done, other that flipping channels on the TV before noon. I have never been described as a morning person.


haymoni - Oct 11, 2005 9:45 am (#1014 of 2980)

Viola - when I am working, I come home, cook dinner and crash.

I really have to go crazy on the weekend.

Yesterday was unusual because I did the deep, down-n-dirty stuff.

Usually I vacuum and damp mop.

I am a Slacker Mom after all!


The giant squid - Oct 11, 2005 10:19 am (#1015 of 2980)

You know, I knew someone was gonna call me on that "64" thing... Okay, actually, all memory is a multiple of 8, but these days it doesn't go any smaller than 128 anyway so I thought I was clear (you can't buy just 64Mb of RAM anymore).

haymoni, congrats on your productive afternoon. Now I can slack off since you've done my share of work for the day too!



Finn BV - Oct 11, 2005 11:13 am (#1016 of 2980)

Yes, Chemyst, I heard about that fire. Horrible.

LOL, haymoni, please, I can't take that all in at once!!

Cross-Country meet today, everyone… let you know hot it goes…

**rushes off to class**


haymoni - Oct 11, 2005 11:24 am (#1017 of 2980)

Good Luck, Finn!


Stephanie M. - Oct 11, 2005 1:26 pm (#1018 of 2980)

Good luck Finn, even though I just saw you, and you won't get this message until you are back!

Happy belated Birthday to T Brightwater!!! I hope you had a wonderful day and I wish you many more happy and healthy years!!

Wow! Haymoni, that's a ton of work!!

I didn't hear about the fire, so thank you for telling us about it Chemyst. It's horrible!

I don't have any written homework, except that I was supposed to have a science quiz first period today but we saw Born Into Brothels instead of having our first period class. So tomorrow I have a science quiz first period then I have a math test and then I have a Spanish quiz. I have to study for my History test next week and my Science test next week along with my Spanish quiz on Friday and my Spanish quiz on Monday. My math test tomorrow is on everything that we did at the end of last week. So I'm really going to have to remember everything from last week with only having one class since then and we learned all new things today instead of reviewing.

I'm off to the other threads and then I'm off to do my homework.


Ydnam96 - Oct 11, 2005 2:20 pm (#1019 of 2980)

Wow, I'm so glad I'm not in school anymore Smile


haymoni - Oct 11, 2005 5:44 pm (#1020 of 2980)

Born Into Brothels???

What class was that for???


Finn BV - Oct 11, 2005 6:29 pm (#1021 of 2980)

LOL, haymoni! All 8th-12th grade students watched it as an essential part of the curriculum. (?) I dunno, we're learning about India in history, but I think they just did it because it's important to know. Our school is a very prestigious school and believes in exposing children to important things in the world.

Incidentally, it is an excellent movie and anybody who's interested should definitely rent it. It won the Oscar in 2004 for best Feature Documentary. The woman who made it is coming to our school next week and all the photograhs the children in it took are on display in the school's gallery.

I had an interesting day today. Well, I won my cross-country meet again! My shoelace came untied about 1/3 of the way into the race, so I was a lot slower, but I still won, which is great, of course. Almost as soon as I got home I had a piano lesson. As I got into the car Mom tried to start it but it wouldn't go on. This is about quarter of eight. Turns out the battery and the starter are dead, so we had to wait for my dad to drive over, then they had to get all the details, and leave it in the parking lot of the conservatory. I still hadn't started my homework or eaten dinner. At 8:25 I started the HW and at 10 of 9 I ate dinner REALLY fast. I am so tired and I have so much more to do!!

**off to work**


Pigwidgeon - Oct 11, 2005 7:13 pm (#1022 of 2980)

* crawling out from stack of college papers and books* Coming out of lurkdom for a bit to pass this on to those in the Cleveland vicinity:

The Great Lakes Science Center will be airing the POA movie in their OMNIMAX Theater, starting October 22 through November 13 on weekends.

The Science Center will host “A Night on Lake Eerie,” Oct. 22 from 6:00pm to midnight on

Highlights are supposed to include:
~ Dinner in the Great Hall of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
~ A lantern tour and tales of Lake Erie on the Steamship Mather
~ “Quizditch” trivia contest
~ The magic of science and the science of spells, and
~ The movie (of course!)

Tickets for “A Night on Lake Eerie” are $20 for adults, $15 for kids. Reservations are needed.

Thought some of you might be interested. I'm thinking of going, if I'm not too snowed under by classwork.


Stephanie M. - Oct 11, 2005 8:20 pm (#1023 of 2980)

Great Job Finn!! It does sound like you had a weird night! I hope you have enough time to sleep! We do have Thursday off for Yum Kipper so you can sleep then. I hope your mom's car gets fized VERY soon!

(I like the birdie in the picture Finn.)

Born Into Brothels was a very good documentary! I really recommend for you all to see it! It's very powerful and sends a strong message to really help people in horrible situations like the children in Born Into Brothels.


The giant squid - Oct 11, 2005 11:20 pm (#1024 of 2980)

Congrats again, Finn! Although if you keep this up, we may get jaded and stop heaping you with accolades every time you win. Aw, who am I kidding? Of course we will.



Finn BV - Oct 12, 2005 5:19 am (#1025 of 2980)

LOL Mike. I might start losing purposely so you can encourage me even more.


haymoni - Oct 12, 2005 6:10 am (#1026 of 2980)

Pigwidgeon - How exciting!

I wondered when they were going to put that IMAX theater to good use!

Just kidding - they show great films there.

By the way, do you work for the Sun newspapers?


Madam Pince - Oct 12, 2005 6:49 am (#1027 of 2980)

***waves furiously at Pigwidgeon!*** Welcome back! Hope all the schoolwork/paperwork goes well!

Congrats on another track win, Finn -- and with an untied shoelace, no less! Great job!

Haymoni, you deserve an award for that extraordinarily productive day you had! Woo-hoo! Doesn't it make you feel great when you get lots of stuff done? (Not that I would actually know.... it seems my day is mostly taken by picking up clutter and vacuuming up dried Play-Doh bits; the only "damp mop" in my house is after I wash my hair...)

Viola, we are so alike. I'm not a morning person either. I had to laugh at your post, too. Mr. Pince also does the thing about folding and putting away his own laundry, while leaving mine and Little Pince's in a heap on the bed (or completely faded and bleached away... but we're not talking about that anymore... ) I told him once "When I do laundry, I fold and put yours away as well as my own..." and he just looked at me. Sigh... laundry day is not fun at our house.

Geez, reading back over this I sound extremely lazy... hmmmm... Well, I did make a very excellent and rather complicated beef stew with a side of spoon bread this past weekend, does that help? And I had to do some "spot scrubbing" when Little Pince spilled a large glass of Blue Berry Kool-Aid (fortunately the rug was also blue!)

Nah... doesn't help much... still a slacker!


haymoni - Oct 12, 2005 7:08 am (#1028 of 2980)

I may have been productive that day, but I've been awful this morning.

The alarm went off at 6:15 am - Hubby was already gone. I really thought that I had hit the "Snooze" button, but I must have turned it off, because I didn't wake up again until 6:53.

Of course, my son needs to be at the bus stop at 6:50. I rushed around for about 60 seconds until I heard the bus zooming past our house.

We all got dressed, ate a decent breakfast and I drove him to school with my kindergartener in tow. I was still wearing my slippers!

I put her on the bus at 8:00 and went off to work where I am now waiting for some information on a conference call that was supposed to occur at 9:00.

I just checked to make sure I still wasn't wearing my slippers!

Slacker Moms Unite!


kaykay1970 - Oct 12, 2005 7:16 am (#1029 of 2980)

I have not spent much time at home the last few days so my house is in total chaos. I think every dish I own was dirty. At least I have gotten those clean. Now to start catching up on the laundry!


Denise P. - Oct 12, 2005 7:54 am (#1030 of 2980)

I want an easy button for laundry. You know, where others (not me, who are you kidding?) can put their dirty laundry and presto-chango have it come back out perfectly clean and folded. ::::sigh:::::


Loopy Lupin - Oct 12, 2005 8:08 am (#1031 of 2980)

We do have Thursday off for Yum Kipper -- Stephanie M.

Gee, I think kippers are pretty yummy too, but we never got a day off in school for that.

Congrats Finn!

I am currently covered in burns on .03 percent of my body. I was poaching a salmon and when I flipped it, all the butter, etc. that I was poaching the thing in splattered on me. I'm so brilliant that, after cursing the heavens the first time, I went ahead and flipped the fish again and splattered myself again. The fish was good, but I didn't know trying to eat healthy could be so dangerous.


T Brightwater - Oct 12, 2005 8:48 am (#1032 of 2980)

Denise, I sympathize; maybe Jo will give us Andromeda's book of Housekeeping Spells sometime.

Loopy, sounds like you cook the way I do. Fortunately, the aloe plant in my kitchen window thrives on neglect.


Julie Aronson - Oct 12, 2005 9:34 am (#1033 of 2980)

mmmmm...poached salmon


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 12, 2005 10:56 am (#1034 of 2980)

Loopy, while I praise your dietary intent, I don't know how healthy a dead salmon could be. However, I have no doubt eating them will help you develop a more healthful diet.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 12, 2005 11:52 am (#1035 of 2980)
Edited Oct 12, 2005 1:19 pm

Oooh. Someone is being frisky. Or is that "friskful"? Ahem. I'd direct everyone's attention to the following from The American Heritage®️ Book of English Usage. (Copyright ©️ 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.):

Some people like to maintain a distinction between healthy and healthful. Healthy, they say, should be used to mean “possessing good health,” and only healthful should mean “conducive to good health.” People who hold this view are swimming against the tide of history, for healthy has been used to mean “healthful” since the 16th century. You can find the “healthful” use of healthy in the works of many distinguished writers, with this example from John Locke being typical: “Gardening … and working in wood, are fit and healthy recreations for a man of study or business.” Therefore, both healthy and healthful are correct in these contexts: a healthy climate, a healthful climate; a healthful diet, a healthy diet.

So, if I may say so: Nah, nana boo boo!

EDIT: There you go Denise. Heheheehee


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 12, 2005 12:04 pm (#1036 of 2980)

Hey everyone! Wow, has it been a long two weeks. This is the first spare second I've had to get on the Forum at all!! There have been days recently where if felt like if I tried to do anymore then I already was, I wouldn't even have time to breathe!! The rest of month is going to be about the same, so today, since I have some down time, I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for the rest of October!

Anyway, Thanks everyone for the strengthening charms and good thoughts/prayers for Aaron. He was actually able to call me a few days ago, which really made me happy. He says right now he's alright over there, he hasn't gotten to his station yet, he's still in Baghdad, I've actually started counting the days until he comes home already, even though it's 8 months away!!

Speaking of soldiers, I know this is a little late but my thoughts and prayers are with your co-worker haymoni. I can't even imagine what they're going through.

KayKay, I am so sorry to hear about your grandmother. (((hugs)))

TBE, My thoughts and prayers are with you and your housing situation. I hope everything gets worked out!!

Also, Happy birthday to anyone who I may have missed in the last 2 weeks (I admit, I only had time to skim through the posts, as there were so many!!) and Strengthening Charms and ((hugs)) to all who need them!!!

Okay, I'm off to try to catch up on threads...have a great reast of the week everyone!!



The giant squid - Oct 12, 2005 12:33 pm (#1037 of 2980)

So, if I may say so: Nah, nana boo boo!--Loopy Lupin

The product of American law schools, ladies & gentlemen...


Denise P. - Oct 12, 2005 12:53 pm (#1038 of 2980)

It would have carried more oomph if had been at the end of it.


Madam Pince - Oct 12, 2005 12:59 pm (#1039 of 2980)

***is rolling around laughing***


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 12, 2005 1:27 pm (#1040 of 2980)

**joins Madam Pince in rolling on the floor laughing**



Finn BV - Oct 12, 2005 1:41 pm (#1041 of 2980)

**first brushes off the floor because it is dirty and then rolls around too**

Gee, I think kippers are pretty yummy too, but we never got a day off in school for that. –Loopy

Ah yes, that was the subject of me teasing Steph the entire day at school today. I seemed to make a pun along the same lines.

It is raining horribly here. The Cross County Parkway was merged from 3 lanes to 1 and unfortunately I was on it. A school bus had crashed into a jeep. The other lanes (going the opposite direction) were also backed up because the fire trucks had to get through, and they couldn't travel through all the backed up cars. Thankfully, now, I am inside, cozy in a blanket. I am not looking to leave the house again today. ::sighs relief::


Catherine - Oct 12, 2005 2:03 pm (#1042 of 2980)

**joins the members rolling on the floor laughing, albeit gingerly, because my area rugs are in the shop being cleaned today**

You know Loopy, I thought I was a bit pathetic because I was injured by a hot Poptart. But at least I learned from my mistake and didn't repeat the injury. Nanny nanny boo boo! (Waits for someone to comment that my 7th graders have influenced me)

Kim, I love your kitten avatar.

I spent the day catching up on house elf duties that were neglected during my tenure as a 7th grade teacher. I'm almost looking forward to substitute teaching tomorrow, except that I have to teach math. Hopefully, the teacher will have something on the schedule that I will understand.

Hope everyone is well, and it feels so great to be able to post on the Forum.

I have to attend a Humane Society board meeting tonight, and I just found out that we are meeting at a restaturant that had some unsavory incidents during its health inspection last month. I'm in a real manners dilemma. I don't want to eat the food there, but I don't want to make other people feel uncomfortable by not eating the food, nor do I want to tell folks why I don't want to eat the food (the story is both true and too icky to repeat). I'm thinking aobut claiming that I am full, sipping a soda, and trying really hard not to think about it....BLECH.

Have a good evening, everyone!


Stephanie M. - Oct 12, 2005 2:33 pm (#1043 of 2980)
Edited Oct 12, 2005 3:42 pm

***Rolling around laughing on my bed because I got the floor really wet when I came home.***

Gee Finn you've really had a lot of trouble getting home lately!

Finn was also teasing me because I said that I hope his mom's car gets fized soon instead of fixed.

I got home around my normal time, but I was sitting next to this really nice boy on the bus and he was in the same grade as my sister so through the entire bus ride he kept saying that I looked and sounded exactly like her. It was extremely annoying, but I'm used to it and he was very nice about bugging me.

I also have this new bus driver to replace my old one and he wasn't sure where each stop was. (We stop every few blocks on an avenue.) So I had to walk 3 blocks and an avenue to my home.

So here is the story of all the times my hair was wet today:

Well, first I had to wait outside for my bus and my hair got very wet. (The bus was REALLY late too.) And of course my sister took my umbrella out of my bag. So it pretty much dried on the way to school. Then my hair was dry until I had swimming. And my hair was more wet than usual. (I have to wear a swim cap.) And then it was drying but I had to go outside and it was POURING!! And then during last period it was drying again. Then I went to my bus and it was drying on the bus and then I went outside to get home, and my the time I got home my hair was so wet that it looked like I had a mop on my head.

But now I'm in my pajama bottoms and a sweat shirt lying on my bed.

Hmm... I think I want a snack now...

(Sorry about the REALLY long post! I just had to tell the hair story because I kept complaining about it all day. But now it's DRY!!! But I'm going to have to take a shower because I smell like chlorine. Plus I only have 10 posts per day.)


Pigwidgeon - Oct 12, 2005 3:02 pm (#1044 of 2980)

*waves back to Madam Pince*

Haymoni -- no, Record Publishing Co. A little further south than most of the Sun papers.


 Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 12, 2005 3:53 pm (#1045 of 2980)

Loopy, I would remind you that in the 16th century there was no such thing as standardized spelling but we appear to have progressed beyond that. And fer thet i em thankefal.


timrew - Oct 12, 2005 3:55 pm (#1046 of 2980)

Loopy Lupin:- I am currently covered in burns on .03 percent of my body. I was poaching a salmon.......

Hey! In the UK, Wayne, 'poaching a salmon' means you were stealing it out of the river. Though, how you got covered in burns beggars belief! Were you stealing them using napalm, or what?

Pictures Wayne............"God! I love the smell of napalm in the morning!", as he poaches his breakfast...........

Only kidding, old buddy!


Ana Cis - Oct 12, 2005 5:46 pm (#1047 of 2980)

Finn, when you get tired of your picture, let me borrow it for a while; or at least tell me where you got it from. It's a really beautiful picture!



Catherine - Oct 12, 2005 6:49 pm (#1048 of 2980)

Hey! In the UK, Wayne, 'poaching a salmon' means you were stealing it out of the river.—Timrew


So much for burns.....


Finn BV - Oct 12, 2005 7:20 pm (#1049 of 2980)

**spews with everyone else and imagines a lawyer stealing **

Hi Ana! I just noticed your premium membership, congrats! I'm tired of my avatar already ( not really, but I'm happy to give it to you), so all you have to do is Google Image Chickadee and it's the third picture.

New picture time I guess! Me running!


Viola Intonada - Oct 12, 2005 7:36 pm (#1050 of 2980)

* wipes tears from eyes from all of the laughing*

Pigwidgeon, Thanks for the heads up for the Science Center. I'll have to talk Hubby into it. Shouldn't be too difficult to talk my kids into it. My only reservation is that IMAX theaters usually make me motion sick.

Denise, do you have an industrial size washer and dryer? Or multiples, as in your own laundry mat?

I can't really get too mad at Hubby for not folding anyone else's laundry, because I actually hate it when he does. A previous girlfriend (that he had probably only dated for a few months) had taught him how she folded laundry, 16 years later I still haven't been able to undo those habits and get him to fold laundry my way. AARrrrgghhh!
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I Am Used Vlad - Oct 12, 2005 7:46 pm (#1051 of 2980)

**spews with everyone else and imagines a lawyer stealing,  Finn**

Apparently, Finn, you've never received a bill from a lawyer.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 12, 2005 8:22 pm (#1052 of 2980)

Good evening everyone!

I really don't have too much to say, but I was so excited I had yet another chnace to get on the Forum tonight that I had to drop in and say hey!!



Herm oh ninny - Oct 12, 2005 8:53 pm (#1053 of 2980)

**Joined others in rolling on the floor, my chihuahuas came over and stared at me! Then proceeded to get up in a dignified manner, read Tim's post, and SPEW!**

Happy Belated Birthday TBrightwater!

Congrats, Herm oh ninny! Is this the baby you are the godmother of? Finn Yes it is Finn. Technically I won't be his Godmother until March when we have the Christening. Thanks for your help with the pics. It worked!

In school today we gave the kids a weekly reader for a quick social studies lesson. We opened up to the first page and guess what was there.... an article and picture about the Giant Squid! Needless to say, I was very excited about this and got a giant smirk on my face. Ahh, the things that make our day! LOL


The giant squid - Oct 13, 2005 2:42 am (#1054 of 2980)

Hey! In the UK, Wayne, 'poaching a salmon' means you were stealing it out of the river. Though, how you got covered in burns beggars belief! Were you stealing them using napalm, or what?—Timrew

Apparently Tim has never heard of the practice of fishing with dynamite. Light the fuse, drop it it the water, scoop out the now-dead fish. Clearly, Loopy held onto the stick just a bit too long...

On a related note, this is the first time I've seen someone use Loopy's real name in a thread...unless Tim just calls everyone "Wayne" the way Aussies call everyone "mate".



haymoni - Oct 13, 2005 4:33 am (#1055 of 2980)

Pigwidgeon - I am VERY familiar with Record Publishing. I work for the County offices that are located in Ravenna. We are one of the prime sources for your papers!!!

I went to the Science Center's website and they didn't have up there about the HP event, so I sent them an email.

Maybe they are afraid that they will be overwhelmed!!


Pigwidgeon - Oct 13, 2005 5:20 am (#1056 of 2980)

Haymoni - Ah, OK. Depending on how long you've been down there, we may have crossed paths when I went to school the first time around.

I got an e-mail from them at work, so that's how I knew.

If anyone else has trouble, e-mail me: ningerbil@sbcglobal.net, and I'll give you the phone number I was given.


haymoni - Oct 13, 2005 5:35 am (#1057 of 2980)

I figured you had connections!

I'll see if they respond to my email.

Have a good day all!


Marie E. - Oct 13, 2005 5:37 am (#1058 of 2980)

Ah, ya'll are so giddy sometimes! I'm sorry I missed all the floor rolling. I was busy yesterday with doctor appointments and Brownie Scout meetings. My daughter Lexie and I went to the doctor and were diagnosed with croup/allergies and sinus infection, respectively. I didn't think that six year olds still got croup, but my friend tells me that it's going around and even high schoolers have come down with it.

Herm oh ninny, what a sweetie! Congratulations!

I wish our Weekly Reader had interesting articles like that. The kindergarten version has articles like "Only adults use matches" and "Everyone eats breakfast". No squids.

My girls got their school pictures back and Shayla finally has a decent picture. The previous three years of school picture were such a disappointment. I went ahead and had her pictures taken at the mall anticipating horrible school pictures. If I have time tonight I'll scan them. Mr. E and Mrs. Neighbor decided to have a yard sale this weekend and nothing is ready. We're committed to having it since Mr. E put a notice in the paper. See how excited I am about the yard sale!


Loopy Lupin - Oct 13, 2005 6:08 am (#1059 of 2980)

n the UK, Wayne, 'poaching a salmon' means you were stealing it out of the river. –tim

Hmmmmm. Well, if "poaching" means "stealing" that must cause quite a bit of confusion in recipes for Eggs Benedict.-- "Why does this dish call for stolen eggs?"

Finn, as you get older, it won't be hard to imagine lawyers stealing at all. ****waves to Vlad**** Also, the fact that you and I thought of the same pun with which to tease Stephanie demonstrates that you're well on your way to brilliance. Keep up the good work!

n a related note, this is the first time I've seen someone use Loopy's real name in a thread...unless Tim just calls everyone "Wayne" the way Aussies call everyone "mate". – mike

LOL. I think Tim usually does that which is perfectly fine for anyone else to do as well. (That is to say, Tim usually uses my real name which is fine; it would not be fine for everyone to substitute "Wayne" for "mate.") However, it seems that, other than Tim, the people on the Forum who know my real name have still found "Loopy" to be apt.

Loopy, I would remind you that in the 16th century there was no such thing as standardized spelling but we appear to have progressed beyond that.-- Lupin is Lupin

I love a healthy debate now and again.

And, Catherine, I'm not sure if the 7th graders have influenced you or not. But, you did like Kim's kitty avatar. Perchance someone else has influenced you to soften your stance on kitties?


Finn BV - Oct 13, 2005 6:56 am (#1060 of 2980) Reply

Apparently, Finn, you've never received a bill from a lawyer. –Vlad

Yes, yes, pleasure of youth.

What a cute avatar, Herm oh ninny! Glad the sizing thingy works, because here on a Mac I have to resize all my pictures in Word!

Enjoy those Kippers today, everyone!


Stephanie M. - Oct 13, 2005 9:13 am (#1061 of 2980)

Welcome to the Forum Amelia!!!!

Herm oh ninny, what an adorable avatar!!!

I really don't like fish.

Have a great kipper filled day, everyone!!!


Finn BV - Oct 13, 2005 9:15 am (#1062 of 2980)

Oh, welcome to the Forum Amelia!

Those yummy kipper are tasting mighty fine, now. Vlad, we rednecks am enjoyin' them kipper. But if dey were bir's… we'd CDEDBD wings.


Stephanie M. - Oct 13, 2005 9:19 am (#1063 of 2980)

Well, you guys can eat all of the kippers you want, but am fasting and I REALLY dislike fish. Don't get burned trying to cook it!!

When was the picture in your avatar taken? Was it when I went, but left early or was it on Tuesday? I see a school bus on the road... maybe I'm in it.

Edit: I don't think I've ever eaten kippers before...


Finn BV - Oct 13, 2005 10:57 am (#1064 of 2980)

As you should know by now I'm a vegetarian. Obviously I don't eat fish.

The pic was taken Tuesday, around 4PM.


azi - Oct 13, 2005 11:12 am (#1065 of 2980)

Oooo, I'm vegetarian too! Meat and fish = bleugh. Never liked the stuff. Nothing ethical in it, mind, I just hate the taste.

Especially kippers. They smell disgusting.

Uni is boring. I want intellectual stimulation! All I did today was go to Asda to buy food. I saved money and then promptly spent it on a Monty Python DVD. Which would be very well and good, if my student loan had appeared, which it hasn't. I'm going to the Sci-fi and Fantasy Society meeting tonight, but I have a feeling they'll be anti-Harry Potter. If the guy I'm going to it with is anything to go by.

Hope everyone has/has had a much more interesting day than me!


Madam Pince - Oct 13, 2005 12:40 pm (#1066 of 2980)

***Temporary avatar change due to discussion in movie thread. You will soon be returned to your regular avatar programming...***

Apparently, Finn, you've never received a bill from a lawyer. –Vlad

Ooooooh, you beat me to it, Vlad! ***still smarting from unethical lawyer experience of five years ago***

Which, of course, Loopy would never ever do. I mean, how much can a lawyer overcharge if he ends his summations with "Nah-nana-boo-boo"???

OK, OK, I'll stop with the lawyer jokes -- truly just kidding, Loopy!


Ana Cis - Oct 13, 2005 2:12 pm (#1067 of 2980) Reply
Edited by Oct 13, 2005 2:13 pm

Thanks Finn! Are you involved in cross country or track and field competitions for your school or just run for the pleasure of it?


Loopy Lupin - Oct 13, 2005 2:19 pm (#1068 of 2980)

I mean, how much can a lawyer overcharge if he ends his summations with "Nah-nana-boo-boo"??? -- Madam Pince

You'd be surprised. I charge by the "boo boo" and sticking out my tongue is extry.


Lina - Oct 13, 2005 2:33 pm (#1069 of 2980)

Congratulations Finn! It is becoming a habit for you to win! Well done!

Your wet story was really charming, Stephanie.

Herm oh ninny, a gorgeous godson to be! Congratulations! I can imagine your excitement!

Healing charms your way, Marie!

Azi, I hope your Sci-fi and Fantasy Society meeting went much better than you expected!

We plan to go to the mountains to celebrate the Pumpkin day! never been to such a day. I hope to try some pumpkin juice...


Amilia Smith - Oct 13, 2005 3:17 pm (#1070 of 2980)

Wow! Another Amelia! There aren't very many of us. :-) Welcome!



Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 13, 2005 3:25 pm (#1071 of 2980)

Hey everyone! Believe it or not, I actually had a bit of free time today as well. I'm waiting around for Aaron to sign on-line so we can chat for a bit. Anyway, just wanted to drop in and say hi! Hope everyone has a great day!!

Off to check the threads!



I Am Used Vlad - Oct 13, 2005 3:30 pm (#1072 of 2980)

Loopy, I'm glad you took that in good fun. As someone who happily milks as much money as possible out of an organization that, despite having a monopoly, consistently loses money, I don't fault anyone based on how they make a living.

Finn, I think I've figured out why you keep winning. Everyone else in your avatar seems to be running in the wrong direction.

Now, off to the Logic thread to find out what you're talking about.


Finn BV - Oct 13, 2005 6:16 pm (#1073 of 2980)

Ana Cis, as Vlad has said in his roundabout way, yes, I run cross-country for school. That was the third of three meets I have won.

Vlad, you'd be surprised. I have a new picture of me with not as much of a lead.


haymoni - Oct 13, 2005 7:16 pm (#1074 of 2980)

Jenn - hope you had the chance to speak with Aaron. Keep us posted! If you want, we could send him care packages or letters. We know how to talk about things other than Harry Potter. I think.

I'm here at home alone. Hubby has the day off tomorrow - so do the kids - some sort of teacher training day. Anyway, they went to his mom's so he could do some work around her house.

I went grocery shopping and then to Kmart. I bought my daughter one of those Kidz Bop karaoke things they've been showing on TV. She goes crazy everytime she sees that commercial. That and "Floam". I'm not buying that. Now all I have to do is find a good place in the house to stash it until Christmas.

I came home and had a complete unhealthy (unhealthful??) dinner of mini egg rolls and onion rings. I cleaned up a bit and then hopped on the Forum.

Don't get me wrong - I love Hubby and the kids, but it's nice to not be the Mom - even a Slacker One - every once in a while!!!


Madam Pince - Oct 13, 2005 7:58 pm (#1075 of 2980)

Loopy, you slay me! Too funny!

Vlad, you too. I wasn't going to say anything to Finn about everybody else running the other way, but.... Maybe it's like that internet joke where the woman calls her husband on his car phone to tell him to be careful driving home because some dummy is driving the wrong way down the interstate, and he says "It's not just one -- it's hundreds of them!" (Please reverse gender roles in joke as appropriate....)

***Pats Finn on shoulder... "Of course we believe you that you won! Really, we do!"*** Just kidding -- congratulations again, Finn!

Jenn, hope Aaron is doing OK!

Herm-oh-ninny, the baby is just beautiful! What a blessing!

Well, I'll "see" you guys Monday probably -- Mr. Pince and I are going camping 1864-style this weekend, and Little Pince is with the grandparents, so I'm joining haymoni in a "Not-the-Mama" weekend. I probably won't see Mr. Pince much because he'll be off doing military living-history stuff, so I'll be hanging out with my friends and cooking over a campfire and hoping for the rain to hold off and such. Woo-hoo! Lots of fun!

Have a good weekend, everyone!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 13, 2005 11:41 pm (#1076 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

I talked to Aaron today. He's still near Baghdad and doing well. He can't tell me where he's going after Baghdad, but keeps reassuring me that he'll be fine. We don't talk much about what's going on there when we do get to talk. He insists he doesn't want me to worry, and he wants to know how life is back here and how things are going for me. His mother actually called me today as well. That was a nice surprise. She just wanted to check in and see how I was adjusting to Aaron being overseas. It was so sweet of her. In the 5 years Aaron and I have been friends, she's never really been overly friendly with me. I'm so happy she and I are getting along now!

Anyway, thanks to everyone for their concern about Aaron...we're really just getting through this one day at a time. Everyone's support is such a huge help.

Anyway, I hope everyone had/has a great night. I'm off to check the threads!



CatherineHermiona - Oct 14, 2005 2:40 am (#1077 of 2980)

I'm glad everything is going well with Aaron, Soul Mate For Sirius.

Our new homeroom teacher looks like she is fifteen! She looked to me like she is student of 8th grade when I first saw her, especially with that bag on her shoulders. She says she was at the university with our second and third teacher. When we have Hour of class (I don't know how to say it on English) we are always talking about violence between students (we are in some UNICEF program). That's nice subject, but before it started we could at least chat about our problems on that school hour. Now we hardly take 5 minutes of that class just to say who was missing that week.

I almost forgot to ask, Detail Seeker, is 0174 a number in mobile that is same to everyone with that mobile operator or part of the number that is different to everyone? I'm asking that because Melanie is having a mobile number that is German and her number is starting with that numbers. And have you heard of Laura Leander books (I'm asking you because that is German series of books). Thanks!

Congratulations on your victory, Finn!



The giant squid - Oct 14, 2005 4:25 am (#1078 of 2980)

Despite his claims to the contrary, I still think Loopy-Wayne would turn out to be a reputable and fair attorney, and not overcharge his clients. As long as they're HP fans, anyway.

Marie, I hope you & Lexie get better soon. I'm battling a bit of a cold myself--I was sneezy & mucusy earlier in the week, and now I have "isolated soreness" in my throat. It's not sore all over as usual, there's just one particular spot that hurts every time I swallow... I'm sure it'll bloom into a full-on 48-hour flu tomorrow, as I have Friday & Saturday off.



Thora - Oct 14, 2005 8:39 am (#1079 of 2980)

I'm thinking about claiming that I am full, sipping a soda, and trying really hard not to think about it....BLECH. – Catherine

Soda with no ice I hope... my sister worked in food service for so long she never gets ice in her drinks. Personally I really don't want to know the details. Blissfully ignorant, that's me.

Apparently Tim has never heard of the practice of fishing with dynamite. Light the fuse, drop it in the water, scoop out the now-dead fish. Clearly, Loopy held onto the stick just a bit too long...- Squid Mike

Ummm.... there's a way to fish with out dynamite? How to you get them to float to the top with out dynamite?

Haymoni, Pigwidgeon, We really need to have a gathering in Ohio, there seem to be a lot of us. That is if I'm not leaving at the end of the month...

When we have Hour of class (I don't know how to say it on English)- CatherineHermiona

We call them class periods, mostly.

Well it seems the task of finding a low-price home in a safe area of the Charleston SC area is much harder than it was here. We're now looking in the Myrtle Beach/Georgetown area without much more luck. The horrid part is that when we started looking a month ago there were lots of homes but each one we called about sold the next day, mostly to those looking for investment properties. It doesn't help that the Charleston area was recently projected to be one of the next exploding housing markets. So the stress continues. My husband may leave next Friday or the Friday after that, if the current boss doesn't manage to kill or fire him in the next bit. This boss seems to really have it out for us, and it's very upsetting, but what can we do? My resume is brushed off and ready for the minute I have ANYTHING concrete.

The good news is that someone I hardly know was very rude to me and it seems to have been the slap in the face I needed to get out of the depression I had over all this. Blessings in disguise.

Thanks for the laughs and the SPEWs everyone, I really needed them.


(edit)Oh, hey Mike, do movie theaters usually do holiday hires or does patronage not rise much that time of year?


Loopy Lupin - Oct 14, 2005 9:24 am (#1080 of 2980)

Ummm.... there's a way to fish with out dynamite? How to you get them to float to the top with out dynamite?--Thora

Well, it is hard to do that "with out" dynamite. With it, however, the fish killed by the underwater explosion will float to the top of the water as dead fish typically do.


kaykay1970 - Oct 14, 2005 9:41 am (#1081 of 2980)

My Hubby is taking the children fishing this weekend. Boy am I glad you all will not be present with the dynamite! I much prefer our way. A rod and reel is much safer and alot more sportsman like. LOL

Soul Mate I am glad that you get to have some communication with Aaron.

Herm oh ninny, the baby is absolutely gorgeous!

An 8 year old girl is in LeBonheur Hospital after having a series of seizures. The doctors have them under control with medication. They have yet to find a cause though. All of her EKG's and cat scans have come back normal. They are going to try again today for an MRI. She wouldn't hold still for one yesterday.


Julie Aronson - Oct 14, 2005 12:10 pm (#1082 of 2980)

I'm all for a NEOhio gathering--I've tried for one before, though, and got nothing but dead air...



Catherine - Oct 14, 2005 1:19 pm (#1083 of 2980)

You'd be surprised. I charge by the "boo boo" and sticking out my tongue is extry. --Loopy Lupin

Do you also put your thumbs in your ears and waggle your fingers during these episodes? I reckon that ups the money.

As for me being influenced by someone to like cats, let's just say that the crazy cat lady (aka Veronicamort) no longer volunteers at the Humane Society. We do have some good stories about other volunteers lately, though.

Today was Grandparents' Day at the school where I have been subbing, and we had a good time.

I will second Thora's thanks for the laughs, as I really did need them, and I hope that you have good news soon, Thora.

Hope everyone has a good weekend. It finally feels like fall today--chill in the air, smell of fallen leaves, and the ECU marching band practicing. I thought I'd celebrate by whipping up a huge pot of chili tomorrow and letting it simmer through the day.



The giant squid - Oct 14, 2005 3:20 pm (#1084 of 2980)

hey Mike, do movie theaters usually do holiday hires or does patronage not rise much that time of year?—Thora

Actually, patronage rises significantly over the holidays. The two main busy periods for movie theaters are May-July and November-December. It's actually kinda frightening how quickly business drops off after New Years... As for holiday hires, it depends on the theater. I'm sure many of them hire short-termers to cover the extra business. Mine prefers people with more of a long-term employment plan, though; we've had too many kids work for a week then stop showing up right before a busy weekend (opening weekend of Mr. & Mrs. Smith was hellacious).

A rod and reel is much safer and alot more sportsman like.--kaykay1970

To quote a stand-up comedian from a few years back: "Fishing isn't a sport; it's more of a practical joke. 'Get it? A metal hook went through your head! Ha ha! Okay, I'll throw you back, we'll play again...'" Of course, I might be more sympathetic to fishermen if I could eat their catch without getting horribly ill. The only fish product I can eat is tuna salad...



Chemyst - Oct 14, 2005 3:54 pm (#1085 of 2980)

...and sticking out my tongue is extry. – Loopy Lupin
So, irregular 16th century spelling doesn't pay all that well, huh?

The good news is that someone I hardly know was very rude to me... – Thora
So, the bad news is   ...what?

The only fish product I can eat is tuna salad... – Mike
So, I won't have to share my tuna cheese swirls then?

- smell of fallen leaves, and the ECU marching band practicing – Catherine
So, you thought I was on a roll here? Sorry, I won't go for that easy one.


timrew - Oct 14, 2005 4:15 pm (#1086 of 2980)

Loopy:- Hmmmmm. Well, if "poaching" means "stealing" that must cause quite a bit of confusion in recipes for Eggs Benedict

My God, Wayne! Those poor eggs........floating face-up in the river (if you can see an egg's face).

I can see the recipe now........."First, go down to the river and dynamite a few eggs........."


Pigwidgeon - Oct 14, 2005 4:23 pm (#1087 of 2980)

I'm game for a NE Ohio get-together, if I can fit it between work and school ... and I would try


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 14, 2005 4:44 pm (#1088 of 2980)

So, irregular 16th century spelling doesn't pay all that well, huh?---Chemyst

I could kiss you.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 14, 2005 5:36 pm (#1089 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

I'm all for a NE Ohio gathering as well!

Today was such a crazy day. I went shopping with my friend Rachel, and as is my habit when at a mall, I spent WAY too much money on things I don't really need! Now, I'm waiting for my friend Chris to call me back so that I can drive an hour down to Dayton to pick him up and drive an hour back up here to Columbus so we can hang out this weekend. It seems so frivolous to drive that far, but I guess getting to hang out with him will be worth it.

Anyway, I'm off to check the threads really quick before Chris calls!! Have a good night everyone!



Finn BV - Oct 14, 2005 6:31 pm (#1090 of 2980)

It's not just one -- it's hundreds of them! --Madam Pince

LOL. I had actually never heard that joke before.

Not a whole lot of time right now, so I just skimmed thru the posts… cheering and health charms all around…

I saw Wallace and Gromit today and I thought it was hilarious, just wanted to point out in the first 10 seconds of the movie, there's a reference to HP: Gromit graduating from Dogwarts School. Just a little moment… Sleep tight, everyone!


kaykay1970 - Oct 14, 2005 8:23 pm (#1091 of 2980)

My Mom's cousin asked me after my Grandmother's funeral to add my maternal Grandfather's descendants to My Family website.I have been working on this family tree all day. I not only added all his descendants, but also all of Mom's, Dad's and Hubby's ancestor's that I have traced. My back is killing me from sitting at the computer all day! Anyway my daughter says she is glad I did all this work because she has to make a family tree for school. I have some relatives listed all the way to the Revolutionary War, so she should be able to make an impressive chart.

My son's just finished carving our jack-o-lantern. It is a howling wolf,pretty cool.


Elanor - Oct 14, 2005 11:44 pm (#1092 of 2980)

I just pop in to say hello and wish you all a great weekend! It has been a tiring and stressful week here and, though I didn't have the time to really post here, I've always been cheered up by reading your posts these last days! Thanks!

It promises to be a sunny and mild weekend here, just the weather needed for walking in the countryside and admiring the colours fall gave to the trees. It should be great!

I send hugs ans cheering charms all around, with a special thought for TwinklingBlueEyes, I do hope things are ok for her and that she will give us some news soon. ((((((((hugs))))))))


Lina - Oct 15, 2005 1:57 pm (#1093 of 2980)

We missed the pumpkin day today . The youngest turned out ill. We went to the doctor, she got the antibiotic and she is feeling well already, but we didn't feel like going anywhere... It seems it wasn't meant. My husband was there for his job and he told us it was very beautiful, but there was no pumpkin juice and he couldn't get us home any of the food that was offered.

But I discovered that a weekend is a very good time to catch up on the treads...


Finn BV - Oct 15, 2005 2:51 pm (#1094 of 2980)

Strengthening charms to Lina's youngest!!

Kaykay, do you use the software Reunion? It is a family tree-making software – very fun and easy to use.

Steph and I (and Gabby and Amelia and Carolyne) went to a Bat Mitzvah today and we had to take a bus through Times Square, and there was a huge poster of Harry with the words "Difficult times lie ahead, Harry" on it… we wanted to take a picture but we had missed it. It was really cool!

Off to the threads…


haymoni - Oct 15, 2005 5:28 pm (#1095 of 2980)

Today my family began the annual Leaf War.

I don't know what it is, but Hubby cannot stand to see leaves in our yard. I think he lived in a house that had gobs of trees so they were constantly raking. To him, it is a war and today was his first battle. Of course he dragged the rest of us into battle with him.

I prefer to let the darn things sit on the ground and get mulched up when we mow the lawn. If they are still there, so be it! They'll dry up and blow into our neighbor's yard soon enough! And if that doesn't happen, the kids will scrunch them to pieces.

But, no! We had to get his mother's riding mower with the leaf catcher on the back. We were at it from about 10:00 am until 1:00 pm. We only have a half acre lot. I drove his mom's mower and got to empty the bags at least 6 times. He drove our riding mower and did the "less leafy" areas. Then he took the push mower and did around the trees and the into "the ditch" - better him than me - I hate the ditch!

I know that tomorrow they'll all be back again. I say let nature take its course. He insists that if we leave all the leaves on the ground, they will kill our grass. I say, "Even better! Less grass to mow next year!"

Why don't I care about this???


kaykay1970 - Oct 15, 2005 6:45 pm (#1096 of 2980)

No Finn, I don't have any family tree software. I just used the program available on the myfamily.com website. It was pretty easy to use so I was happy with it.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 15, 2005 7:25 pm (#1097 of 2980)

Just thought I'd like to say that UVa is currently beating Florida State 23-10 at the start of the third quarter. Definitely lots of game to go, but gotta be happy with the first half so far. GO HOOS!!

Edit- Make that 26-10....Let's all sing the Good Ol' Song! Yay!


Viola Intonada - Oct 15, 2005 7:28 pm (#1098 of 2980)

Lol, Haymoni, Sounds like the similar battle that occurs in our house. I was raised in the country. We only raked enough leaves to put on the garden. The rest got mowed under.

I'm all for a NE Ohio gathering. I suggest we go see GOF opening day at the Valley View cinemas. We can start a thread to discuss which theater might be more central to everyone. I called yesterday about the "A Night on Lake Eerie". It had sold out the day before.

Right now I bet that Madame Pince is wishing that she had borrowed a tent from Arthur Weasley. hehehe


Stephanie M. - Oct 16, 2005 9:19 am (#1099 of 2980)

If I had a lawn I would probably wait for most of the leaves to fall of the trees around you and then rake them up. It would be a LOT of work, but then you don't have to rake up the leaves everyday.

I'm glad I don't have a lawn. But then when it snows it isn't as fun in NYC except you can go to Central Park but there are so many kids there.

Okay I'm off to the other threads. Have a great day everyone!


Ydnam96 - Oct 16, 2005 2:39 pm (#1100 of 2980)

Hey all...stuff here is busy...but boring. Although it did rain here last night and today which is amazing. Let's hope though that we don't start having mud-slides. Rain is such a mixed blessing in Southern California. We need it badly to stop all the fires and refill our water supply (my town actually uses rain water for our city but I think that's because we are a valley town and we have a dam) but if we get too much at one time we have the horrible mudslides and then the brush grows up a lot and it makes next season's fires worse...

Oh well...for the moment I'm liking the rain

As far as leaves go, I gotta admit that despite the work it takes every week it is so much better than waiting till the end. Mostly because there are so many leaves at the end of the season that it is near to impossible to get them all. They get very heavy because they are more than likely wet (at least in the bottom layers) and there are all sorts of bugs in them. And they start to smell when they are wet. Bleh. I would rather rake up dry leaves once a week for an hour than spend two or three days at the end moving icky wet smelly loads of leaves. I used to live in Virginia where we have lots and lots of leaves and lots of land (even two acres is a lot where leaves are concerned).

My thoughts and prayers are with all those forumers who are in the flooded areas and for all those in the hurricane and earthquake effected areas across the world.

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Marie E. - Oct 16, 2005 2:52 pm (#1101 of 2980)

We had a yard sale this weekend. We did pretty good, bringing in over $200, but now I hate all the stuff that's left over. If I see it again I will burn it. Mr. E is putting windows in for a co-worker and then he's going to run by Goodwill and drop the remainders off. It kills me how cheap some people can be at a yard sale. Yes, it's used stuff, but someone offered us $3 for a leather jacket. Honestly!

Thank you for the healing charms, Lina, I'm feeling much better. I always get sick when the weather starts fluctuating. We had six inches of snow on Monday, today it's 75, and tomorrow they're saying snow again.

Have a great rest of the day!


Denise P. - Oct 16, 2005 3:03 pm (#1102 of 2980)

Marie, if you don't want to haul stuff off, have you tried Freecycle? It is a group that you just give stuff away on. I know that I have gotten rid of a ton of junk sitting around here rather than haul it off or wait for a yard sale. You just post what you have available and people email you. I just email back the first person, give my address and say it will be out on the driveway so they can come get it. If it is still there after X time, I will email the next person. We have given away a treadmill, tons of computer stuff (not all of it working either), french doors when we put in a slider, clothes, vaccuum cleaner and even our nasty ole love bird (who is doing very well in her new home). www.freecycle.org to find a group near you.


Stephanie M. - Oct 16, 2005 7:51 pm (#1103 of 2980)

I was coming back from dinner this past night and I saw a bus that had a preview for GoF on the side. It was just the picture of Harry in the foggy darkness with his wand out. But It was really cool though. Except I didn't see it very well because it was moving one way while I was walking the other way.

I also saw a sign for Rent while I was going home and I got very excited that I saw signs for both movies and now I really can't wait for either of them to come out!

Have a good night everyone!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 16, 2005 10:48 pm (#1104 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

I hope everyone had a great weekend! Mine was pretty good. I talked to Aaron for over an hour today on-line, so that was really really exciting!! He's doing fine. His only complaint was that he's running out of reading material. He's a new HP fan, so he just finished reading the series right before he left for Iraq. I told him to re-read them, because they get better and better with every re-read. He just finished Eragon, said he loved it, and begged me to mail him the second book in the series. I told him I would if he'd mail Eragon home so I could read it!! He gave me some interesting news today as well. I guess he was talking to his mom yesterday as was telling her about how I was planning on coming with her down to North Carolina to meet him when he gets home, and she was surprised. She said that was something a wife or girlfriend would do, but not a friend. I was so offended! Aaron has been my best friend for 6 years and his mom thought it was inappropriate for me to come meet him when he got home!?! Oh well, that's 8 months from now, so hopefully she'll change her mind by then!

As to the leaves, they are the only thing I don't like about fall. I also feel that raking for a bit once a week is a much easier way to deal with the leaves then waiting until the end of the season. Especially in NE Ohio!!

Speaking of NE Ohio, I like the idea of meeting to go see GoF on opening day! Viola Intonada, where exactly is Valley View Cinemas? I think I've heard of it. How many other forum members are in the NE Ohio area?

Anyway, I'm off to check the rest of the threads. Have a good night everyone!



Ydnam96 - Oct 16, 2005 11:10 pm (#1105 of 2980)

Jenn, maybe his mom wants you to be more than just a friend???


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 16, 2005 11:19 pm (#1106 of 2980)

Jenn, maybe his mom wants you to be more than just a friend??? -Ydnam96

Oh!! That would be wonderful if she did!! If she does, then I just need her to convince Aaron of the same!



The giant squid - Oct 17, 2005 1:04 am (#1107 of 2980)

Marie, I feel your pain. My mother-in-law is all about garage sales and I can't believe the nerve some people have in trying to haggle. Sure, if something's marked $1 you see if they'll give it up for .75, but to look at a piece of furniture marked $45 (It cost a couple hundred new & was still in excellent condition) and say, "I'll give you five bucks."?? I mean, c'mon... It's also funny how the stuff everyone was looking for at the last sale just sits at the next one.

Then again, I come from a family that doesn't throw anything away. I have trouble with the mere concept of garage sale-ing: "What do you mean, sell it? I might find a use for that piece of burnt-out wire someday!"



Marie E. - Oct 17, 2005 5:24 am (#1108 of 2980)

Thanks, Denise. I'll see if there's a Freecycle around here. *looks at the six unused computer towers behind her*

Mike is right about coming from a family of pack rats. Sometimes I have to give myself a pep talk before parting with things. Our father collects things and stores them in his garage He also has a storage unit filled to the ceiling. He made my sister sign an agreement not to throw his stuff away when he's gone. I guess that means she is the one who has to go through it, right? Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042


haymoni - Oct 17, 2005 7:10 am (#1109 of 2980)

Jenn - maybe Aaron's mom isn't ready to share him yet. It probably didn't occur to her that there might be somebody else interested in the welfare of her baby boy besides her. Maybe it would be better if a group of friends went down instead of just you. Sounds like Aaron better wake up! You were willing to get tattooed for the guy!

The leaves are back. Sigh.


azi - Oct 17, 2005 8:44 am (#1110 of 2980)

Ahhh, leaves. I just let them lie and look pretty. What's autumn without loads of leaves to run through anyway?

Yard sales aren't really a done thing in the UK as far as I know. I've never been to one anyway. If you don't want something you take it to a car boot or put it in one of the bags various charities send round.

Jenn, I don't see why you shouldn't see Aaron home. Just go anyway!

My brain is officially frazzled. Today I had 4 hours of class (a lot, considering I haven't done anything for 4 months). Two of those hours were Maths, my worst subject. I was fine when we were looking at graphs (exponential, linear etc.) but then the woman mentioned formulas and I got lost. All the letters and numbers make no sense to me and I can't work them out. We were doing functions, but I've no idea what a function is! I already have an assignment to do on them! Thankfully, I'm not the only completely lost person...

On the plus side, we had an Ecology class today and it was so easy I almost fell asleep.

Everyone have a great day!


Julie Aronson - Oct 17, 2005 9:08 am (#1111 of 2980)

Valley View cinemas will be fine with me. I live about 20-25 minutes south on 77 of them. We also have some excellent theaters here in the Fairlawn/Montrose area, but I know I'm being selfish since that's where I live! The only problem I have is my school schedule. My only free hours are Saturday until 5pm. Will that work OK?



kaykay1970 - Oct 17, 2005 9:56 am (#1112 of 2980)

Seems all the news I can bring to the forum is bad news lately. I think I told you about my 9 year old niece that is in the wheelchair when we were looking for a saddle to buy her. Well she was born with several heart deformities. She had her first open-heart surgery when she was 5 days old. Her second one she was 4 years old. After that one she had a 4 strokes to her brain caused from blood clots. This is why she is now in a wheel chair. She had another open heart when she was six. Today she went in for a routine heart catheter to see how things are going. We got bad news. She has two veins in her arm that are enlarged and instead of supplying blood to her lungs they are simply dumping the blood back into the heart. They will have to do surgery and re-route these veins. In addition they think that she has a blood clot in her heart in the location that the other ones had formed which means she may have to have another open heart. They also say that her heart is over worked and are considering the possibility of a pace maker. They are keeping her at Vanderbilt tonight and then tomorrow they are having a surgical team meeting to discuss options. Please pray for her those of you who pray.


Thora - Oct 17, 2005 10:34 am (#1113 of 2980)

Cinemark at Valley View sounds great, if I'm still here. So don't plan around me.



T Brightwater - Oct 17, 2005 12:11 pm (#1114 of 2980)

kaykay, I am sorry to hear about your niece- that's a huge burden for such a young girl and it must be completely awful for her parents. Sending healing & strengthening charms to all of them (and to your youngest, Lina, and to whoever else needs them.)

The White Sox are going to the World Series for the first time since 1959! They haven't won since 1917. (Only one team has been waiting longer - my poor old Cubs, who haven't been to the Series since 1945, and haven't won since 1908.)


kaykay1970 - Oct 17, 2005 12:28 pm (#1115 of 2980)

Thanks T Brightwater. My niece is coming home tomorrow. The surgical team is not meeting until Thursday. Anyway she does have a hard blood clot in her heart. It is inside a valve that does not function properly.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 17, 2005 1:12 pm (#1116 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

KayKay, I'm so sorry to hear about your niece. That has got to be so hard for all of you. Strengthening and Healing Charms your way. I'll keep your niece and your family in my prayers.

Marie & Mike, I know what you guys mean about having a family of packrats. My dad is crazy about keeping everything! When we moved back to NE Ohio from Pennsylvania, our new house didn't have a basement, so we had a lot less storage space. My dad tried to keep everything anyway! It was insane. he had boxes of stuff he didn't need piled up in my parent's bedroom! Needless to say, as soon as he left for a business trip, my mom got rid of most of the junk. He was not happy when he got home!

Valley View Cinemas sounds good to me as well!!

I was thinking more about this whole situation with Aaron's mom and I think you're probably right haymoni. She's probably just having a hard time letting him go. I just hope she can accept how close our friendship is, and understand I'm not really trying to steal her baby from her!!

Anyway, I"m off to check the threads...Have a great day everyone!



Lina - Oct 17, 2005 1:17 pm (#1117 of 2980)

Kaykay, it is difficult to see such a young person having to struggle so much. Strengthening charms and (((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))) to you, your niece and your families!


Stephanie M. - Oct 17, 2005 1:37 pm (#1118 of 2980)

KayKay, strengthening and healing charms to your niece and other family members going through this rough time with her.


Finn BV - Oct 17, 2005 2:22 pm (#1119 of 2980)

Kaykay, my best wishes to your niece. Prayers.


Viola Intonada - Oct 17, 2005 2:29 pm (#1120 of 2980)

KayKay, strengthening and healing charms to your niece and family.

Julie, The Valley View Cinema is near 480 and I-77. (Exit from I-77 to Rockside Rd. East on Rockside, turn North on Canal Road. It is on Canal Road.)

Pack Rats Unite!!!! I come from a long line of pack rats. I hope my parents never plan to move (30 years in one place). Though it never fails, something can sit unused for years, but you'll desperately need it within a week of throwing it away. Alas, earwax....


Amilia Smith - Oct 17, 2005 3:29 pm (#1121 of 2980)

When my folks were first married, my Mom heard a lecture saying that if you haven't used something in over a year, you should throw it out. So she threw out my Dad's crash symbols (he's a drummer). After that fiasco, she has been reluctant to throw anything out, and we have been pack rats ever since.



kaykay1970 - Oct 17, 2005 4:56 pm (#1122 of 2980)

Thanks for the support everyone. I called my sister. After the initial heart catheter the doctors decided to do 2 more, one under each collar bone. She actually has 4 veins that will have to be re-routed. Anyway my niece was happy she got to have a happy meal tonight.


Madam Pince - Oct 17, 2005 5:22 pm (#1123 of 2980)

kaykay, I'm sorry to hear about your niece's health problems. Hope the doctors are able to help her out so that she will be better soon. And yay! A Happy Meal helps almost any situation, doesn't it?

***Puts arm around Loopy's shoulder and sways back and forth singing "That good ol' song of Wahoo-Wah, we'll sing it o'er and o'er, it cheers our hearts and warms our blood to hear them shout and roar! We come from Old Vir-gin-i-a where all is bright and gay, let's all join hands and give a yell for dear old U-V-A! Wah-hoo-wah, Wah-hoo-wah, Uni-V-Vir-gin-i-a! Hoo-rah-ray, Hoo-rah-ray, Hey, Hey, UVA!!!"*****  Man, I can remember the days when beating Florida State would be like beating the 1970's Pittsburgh Steelers or something! Woo-hoo!

Viola, I unite with my fellow Pack-Rats! I'm terrible about it, and come from a long line of pack rats. It drives Mr. Pince nuts. But then again, he's jealous of the fact that I still have most of my toys from when I was little (stored at my Mom's house) and he can only look at his James Bond 007 Spy Kit on e-Bay, listing for around $400.

We had a good camping weekend. It was great weather, we had an excellent campsite down by a little creek and out of the wind, the wood provided was not too terribly wet so the campfire was easy, all in all it was quite fun. We got there a little later than planned on Friday so we didn't cook anything for dinner, but nobody was hungry anyways so we just snacked on cold fried chicken. Then Saturday we made a big breakfast, and then did a beef roast with potatos and carrots and green beans for dinner. One of our fellow campers had made a large jug of Rum Grog which was quite nice. We also baked a peach cobbler type thing over the fire which turned out well. I got to visit a lot of friends that I usually see only once a year. I actually fit into the dresses that I wanted to wear, so that was a pleasant surprise, and the bruising on my ribs from the corset is only minor. We were both pretty tired today -- there were a lot of "snorers" in the camp, plus a dawn battle Sunday morning and some late revelers both Friday and Saturday, so we didn't sleep too well. But all in all, it was great fun! Even without Arthur Weasley's tent!


Amilia Smith - Oct 17, 2005 8:44 pm (#1124 of 2980)

***Oops*** I meant "cymbals," not "symbols." Goes to show you can't rely on spell-check . . .

Glad you had a good weekend, Madam Pince. It sounds like a lot of fun.



The giant squid - Oct 17, 2005 11:45 pm (#1125 of 2980)

We packrats of the world could unite, but there isn't enough space in the room with all our crap. Let me describe my father this way: for the last three years his "friend" Jeannie has bet him $20 he couldn't make enough room in his garage to fit the car inside. Last year he almost won...he could get the car in, but there wasn't enough room to open the door to get out afterward. I think she gave up this year.

Then again, I'm the guy who still has character sheets for RPG characters I haven't played in almost 2 decades. It's genetic, I tell ya.



T Brightwater - Oct 18, 2005 5:51 am (#1126 of 2980)

Count me among the packrats, but there is hope of reform. Last Saturday my husband maneuvered me into cleaning my office by suggesting that I put the books I need on a regular basis within arm's reach, on a small bookcase, instead of piled on a stool. This meant that a few things had to be moved, and then he offered to vacuum...two shopping bags full of office paper for recycling later, and I can actually get to my chair without stepping on something. Some of this carpet hasn't seen the light for at least five years.

My case of essential books is evenly divided between liturgy and HP. :-)


Lina - Oct 18, 2005 6:46 am (#1127 of 2980)

I watched recently an Oprah show about a "compulsive collecting disorder". Well, the result would be a great mess in the home. I used to think that a mess would be a consequence of depression, but it seems that a depression could be a consequence of a mess. Now, since I am mentioning all the time a mess at my home (which I agree that is unavoidable with children...) I came to the conclusion that compulsive collecting is my problem and started to make a selection. All I can say that it is a great and a deliberating feeling to give or throw things away! And then to see parts of the floor... I recommend!


Ydnam96 - Oct 18, 2005 7:38 am (#1128 of 2980)

I used to keep everything. I mean, everything. I would keep movie ticket stubs, clothes that didn't fit or that I never wore, old magazines...you name it I kept it. But recently (due to the fact that I have moved every summer but one since I graduated high school in 1996) I have started getting rid of things. It's quite liberating actually. I've gotten rid of all the books I don't read, all the movies I don't watch, all (well most) of the clothes I don't wear, all kinds of stuff. It's great. When I had cable I loved that show Clean Sweep on TLC. I really really liked that show on BBC America that Clean Sweep was created after, but I can't remember the name. They actually brought a huge trash compactor to the house and made the people throw stuff in it!

Anyway..it's still raining I love it.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 18, 2005 7:40 am (#1129 of 2980)

Then again, I'm the guy who still has character sheets for RPG characters I haven't played in almost 2 decades. It's genetic, I tell ya.—Mike

For those of you who are considerably younger than Mike and myself, let me explain the phrase "character sheets." This actually involved paper (made from trees) and pencil (made from wood and graphite). The sheet were used to keep up with your character's identity (e. g. female half-elf thief), personality (e. g. lawful v. chaotic or good v. evil), and your character's general abilities (e. g. strength, charisma, dexterity, etc.) It was best to use pencil because as your character progressed, you would have to erase (using an eraser) prior entries for new ones. In other words, we used to keep manual records of the info you find nowadays when you click on "character stats."

Sigh.....Not only am I a geek; I'm an old geek.


Denise P. - Oct 18, 2005 8:02 am (#1130 of 2980)

Heh Loopy, I can still remember standing in awestruck wonder outside a Radio Shack at those Tandy computers.

I was so used to doing character sheets (for fiction rather than RPG) in paper and pencil that when we first got a computer, I would still do them in a notebook and then type them in Word to send to my beta readers LOL


Loopy Lupin - Oct 18, 2005 8:41 am (#1131 of 2980)

Hehe. I continue to be awestruck at the concept of a 20-sided die.

As some of you may know or recall, my parents have thoroughly replaced me with 6 (count 'em 6!) dogs. I've been too lazy to put any pictures up, but it turns out that 5 of them are featured on the local vet's website. Here's a link:


From left to right, that is Flash, Cooter, Jesse, Lulu, and Daisy Mae. Roscoe apparently didn't feel like having his picture made that day. The Ford Explorer they are in is known as the "puppymobile." Flash doesn't typically drive, but they all do typically ride with their heads hanging out. Flash, Roscoe, and Lulu are purebreed Bassets. Cooter is supposedly a purebreed Beagle but I have my doubts. Jesse and Daisy are from the same litter and are not "pure" anything, except immensely spoiled.


Snuffles - Oct 18, 2005 8:47 am (#1132 of 2980)

Loopy, they are adorable. The one that is third from the left looks just like my sister in law's dog Molly. She is the sweetest natured dog I have ever met.

If it takes 6 dogs to replace you, you must have been one heck of a child to handle!!!


Madam Pince - Oct 18, 2005 12:04 pm (#1133 of 2980)
Edited Oct 18, 2005 12:38 pm

Loopy, they are adorable! I would take Lulu home in a minute!

TBrightwater, congratulations on your "clean-up" day! How liberating to be able to see the floor! Woo-hoo! Sounds like your hubby had the right idea -- be supportive and make suggestions and be right there with a trash bag, but don't be pushy! Those shows like "Clean Sweep" often turn me off because the guy totally rejects any sentiment at all and just sort of forces the people to throw things out. For example, they often look at books as mere "decorative objects" that are intended to simply dress-up a piece of furniture. Silly people!

Re being an "old geek," last week Mr. Pince and I were reading the news over our coffee and we saw that Nipsey Russell had died. So that started us on a trip down Memory Lane of older comedians and people who used to be on game shows like "The $10,000 Pyramid" and "Truth or Consequences" or "To Tell The Truth" or "What's My Line?" We decided that the cut-off point for determining if you are "old" or not is if you know who Kitty Carlisle is/was. ("Is" - I just looked it up and she's still living!)


haymoni - Oct 18, 2005 12:16 pm (#1134 of 2980)

Yes - kids today think that Donny Osmond was always the host for The Pyramid.

Crazy stuff going on at work today. Sometimes I learn too much about my employees. Enough information! Stop the Insanity!


Finn BV  - Oct 18, 2005 1:40 pm (#1135 of 2980)

Nuh-uh! I watch Pyramid from time to time with Donny and I know it's Dick Clark!! **does dance** But only because they show the old episodes on GSN.

Cute dogs Loopy! I like Cooter myself!

Congrats to your White Sox, TB. Might as well have them win and get it over with… No, seriously, I'll be rooting for them.


T Brightwater - Oct 18, 2005 2:22 pm (#1136 of 2980)

OK, Madame Pince, I officially qualify as "old" by your criterion. :-) The first time I felt old was when I was reminiscing about the '69 Cubs to a co-worker, and he told me he hadn't even been born then.

Don Adams also died recently. He was not only the star of "Get Smart" (surely someone has come up with a real shoe phone by now?) but the voice of Tennessee Tuxedo.


Viola Intonada - Oct 18, 2005 2:51 pm (#1137 of 2980)

Don Adams and Nipsy Russell died?!?!? I missed those bits of news. Yes, I too, fall into the "old" category.

I love the show "Clean Sweep". This summer I "Clean Swept" my living room. I couldn't believe the bags of trash I threw away, and I still didn't have room for everything. I did get rid of the piles of clutter that I had stacked all over the room. It has been difficult to keep them from coming back. Even though I threw a lot of things away, the pack rat in me would not let me get rid of everything that could be thrown away.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 18, 2005 2:59 pm (#1138 of 2980)

Hey everyone.

Loopy, the dogs are so cute!

I really don't have too much else to say today...I'm really busy!!!

Have a great day everyone!!



Lina - Oct 18, 2005 3:04 pm (#1139 of 2980)

Yes, Viola, I know exactly what do you mean. It is the same here. But look it from the other side: if you threw everything on the first cleaning attempt, what would bring you the deliberating feeling next time? That's why I said that I started to make a selection!

Loopy, thanks for sharing your dogs (OK, their picture) with us! They are so cute!


Finn BV - Oct 18, 2005 3:29 pm (#1140 of 2980)

Whoa, wait a second, I just realized… I know who Kitty Carlisle is!! Does that mean I'm old? And the scary thing is… I knew she was still living, without looking anything up.

**backs away, scared at these horrid thoughts**

Well, I know her because she was in a Marx Brothers movie, ages ago. And… there was another reason, too, don't remember now…


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 18, 2005 3:53 pm (#1141 of 2980)

Finn, you know who the Marx Brothers are but didn't know Buster. They, along with almost everyone else, stole many of their funny bits from my avatar. Karl has always been my favorite, by the way.

Loopy, don't feel bad about being replaced by dogs. When I graduated from high school, my parents offered to buy me a one way bus ticket to the destination of my choice, as long as I agreed to stay there.


Madam Pince - Oct 18, 2005 4:31 pm (#1142 of 2980)

Don Adams and Nipsy Russell died?!?!?

Yup. And Bob Denver, too. TVLand is having a rough year.


Finn BV - Oct 18, 2005 6:46 pm (#1143 of 2980)

No, I knew Buster, but he wasn't the first name who sprang to mind, unfortunately. I believe I wrote that around the time of my solo recital and my head wasn't thinking straight. Then again, I could have just made up when I wrote that and I was running off somewhere. But I assure you I do know Buster. I'm sorry it sparked such a discussion. Groucho is unbeatable, sorry:

   "Quote me as saying I was misquoted."

   "Military justice is to justice what military music is to music."

   "Room Service? Send up a larger room."

   Too good.


Julie Aronson - Oct 18, 2005 7:21 pm (#1144 of 2980)

Hey, lighten up on the old geeks--I resemble that remark!

I still have all my old dice and characters in my basement, and recently thought about selling my DMG, Players Handbook, & etc. on E-bay, but I'm not sure I can part with them. Yes, Mike, it's been at least 20 years for me, too...



The giant squid - Oct 19, 2005 12:46 am (#1145 of 2980)

Sigh.....Not only am I a geek; I'm an old geek.--Loopy Lupin

Eh? What's that? Speak up, you whippersnapper!

Julie, don't misunderstand...the character sheets are 20 years old, but my PHB was used last Friday.

Finn, all you've done is provide further proof that you are a 50-year-old man posing as a teenager.

Sam: Karl always was funnier than Zeppo...



azi - Oct 19, 2005 2:18 am (#1146 of 2980)

Woohoo, I've never heard of any of these people so I can't be old!

Nothing wrong with being a geek. Geeks are cool! I only played my first RPG thing on Monday, but it was fun. I killed a person, hacked two computers and infiltrated a gang's HQ successfully. I have been told I will collect many dice and bits of paper, but I haven't got any yet.

Everyone have a groovy day!


Stephanie M. - Oct 19, 2005 3:59 am (#1147 of 2980)

I have heard of a lot of the people too!

How old am I really? I thought I was younger than dirt...

Oh well, I love being an old geek!

Have a great day, everyone!!!


haymoni - Oct 19, 2005 4:43 am (#1148 of 2980)

I will let Hubby know that SOMEONE out there knows that Don Adams was Tennessee Tuxedo.

He claims it wasn't mentioned in any of the reports about Don Adams' death and was actually a bit miffed about it!

None of us like the new James Bond

What's happening to me? Am I becoming one of those old people that doesn't like change???


Madam Pince - Oct 19, 2005 5:44 am (#1149 of 2980)

Oh, I agree about the new James Bond. He ain't no Sean, that's for sure. Nor Pierce either, for that matter.

On a mostly un-related side-note, my Dad's CB "handle" (now there's another icon for older folks) was "007." Which is pretty funny, since my dad the cattle farmer was about as far from James Bond as you could get. But I suppose I must've gotten my vivid imagination from somebody....


Marie E. - Oct 19, 2005 5:49 am (#1150 of 2980)

I saw it mentioned somewhere that Don Adams was Tennessee Tuxedo, haymoni. I remember watching that cartoon after school, along with Deputy Dawg and maybe Mighty Mouse. It's been awhile.

I forced myself to get rid of some books at my yard sale last weekend. It was hard, let me tell you. I weeded through our board games, too. It is liberating. Once a year I go through my clothes and sneak into hubby's closet. I swear I found a shirt last week from 1992 in his closet. He must have been hiding it from me.

Sort of on the same subject of cleaning: We have a stack of books in our office three feet high and six feet long. Mr. E promised to build bookshelves but he said first he'd have to clean out the garage to have room. I gave him until the end of October. At first there was progress in the garage i.e. a path from the back door to the front door. Something happened and now it's all kaput. I'm already eyeing bookshelves at our Oak Express. He thinks I won't do it. Silly boy.
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T Brightwater - Oct 19, 2005 6:18 am (#1151 of 2980)

We started building bookshelves about five years ago. Unfortunately, my husband and I share a habit of starting things and not finishing them.

Lina, minor point of English - to liberate is to set something free (Latin root liber, free); to deliberate is to come to a careful decision by weighing alternatives (Latin root libra, scales).

On the other hand, maybe "deliberating feeling" is what you meant - the satisfaction of coming to a decision that you don't need all that stuff!


haymoni - Oct 19, 2005 7:54 am (#1152 of 2980)

Or "De liberating feeling", like "the liberating feeling".

In any event, we knew what you meant - it feels great to get rid of junk!


Lina - Oct 19, 2005 9:22 am (#1153 of 2980)

Thank you Brightwater and Haymony for correcting and understanding me. Indeed, what I meant was liberating feeling. Sometimes I use words just because I like the way that they sound, but it can end up in a wrong way...

Now, talking about bookshelves: I saw one in a catalogue of one market that was very cheap and told my husband to go and buy it before it gets sold off. He went at 8 in the morning, bought it and brought it home. My sister liked it very much and she run to that market to buy it too. She was very fortunate to find the last remained! I can not describe what revolution did those bookshelves bring in our lives! I just went to see her room today and it is nothing like it used to be. You can walk there, and sit on the armchair! So we are quite in the middle of the process of getting rid of stuff. Unfortunately, she finds many things that she thinks would make my daughters happy... And the only comment of my mum is "It was not me who gave it to them!"


Denise P. - Oct 19, 2005 9:49 am (#1154 of 2980)

Mr. Denise built an entire double garage wall of bookshelves for me. They are double stacked too. Two rows of books on each shelf, one slightly higher so you can see the title and then books laid horizontally on top of them. Even so, I am running out of space and will soon have to go through and purge out books that I am willing to part with. I have close to 100 Star Trek novels, I can probably part with most of them but I have some favorites in there to keep.


MoonRider - Oct 19, 2005 10:39 am (#1155 of 2980)

Hi All!

Do we have a member that's an English Teacher-----or, actually, I know we have a TON of librarians (Happy belated birthday, Steve!).....

Could someone tell me what it's called when you see a movie/read a book/whatever and end-up feeling sorry for "the bad guy"??? I'm just curious. I remember that one of my High School teachers taught us about "this", and used "Bonnie and Clyde" (movie) as the example.

I just "found" Dean R. Koontz!!! OMG!!!!

.....got any of THOSE books you'd like to get rid of, Denise?

Thanks, ahead of time!



Puck - Oct 19, 2005 10:40 am (#1156 of 2980)

Hello! Just a quick check in before getting back to the house work, or perhaps having a nap.

Denise, no idea how you do it! I'm exhausted! By the time I do a feeding and get Natalie back to sleep during the wee hours, it's time to get Parker up and ready for school. Thus, the day often starts at about 4am.

Marie, I finally got the hutch my hubby promised about 2 or 3 years after the project started, and only because I told him if I didn't see it by a certain date I was going out and buying one. I have a friend who's about to potty train a child who's dad still hasn't finished building the changing table!

My son's school does a books by the pound thing. You donate books and get a slip saying how many pound you turned in, then on the swap night you go and can get that many pounds of books. You can pay for extra pounds, and it's a few dollars to get into the swap. They use it as a fund raiser.

Well, lots to get done. Just wanted to pop in and say hello!



Denise P. - Oct 19, 2005 10:53 am (#1157 of 2980)

Kathy, it helps that I have a generally easy going baby. He is not high demand so I can put him on a play mat, in a bouncy seat or a swing for a bit to do other things. If all else fails, he goes into a kangaroo pouch and I just continue on with him watching from his pouch. He also goes to sleep about 10 pm and sleeps until about 5-6 am. **:knock on wood**:


Finn BV - Oct 19, 2005 1:23 pm (#1158 of 2980)

Finn, all you've done is provide further proof that you are a 50-year-old man posing as a teenager. –Mike

Back in my day, we would have said… oh, wait, no, I didn't say that. Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042

Good to see you around, Kathy! Hope Natalie's doing well.

Love the new pic, Denise!


Catherine - Oct 19, 2005 1:57 pm (#1159 of 2980)

Could someone tell me what it's called when you see a movie/read a book/whatever and end-up feeling sorry for "the bad guy"??? I'm just curious. I remember that one of my High School teachers taught us about "this", and used "Bonnie and Clyde" (movie) as the example. –Moonrider

Are you referring to an anti-hero? Someone who has the qualities of a villain, but may also have enough heroic qualities that he/she is nonetheless sympathetic?

Loopy Lupin, all I can say is finally! I got to see the Dukes of Hazard namesake pups at last. I can see why your parents have no time for anything but the dogs--there are six of them! Yikes!

I had to substitute for math again. Eeeek! They kept asking me awkward questions about negative exponents. I told them, "Look, I know what the answer is, but I cannot explain WHY. You are asking someone who actually cheered aloud when I realized that I didn't have to take calculus my senior year of high school and did an actual dance in my guidance counselor's office."

I'm off tomorrow. Poor Daisy (my younger shih-tzu, to those who don't know) has to have ear surgery tomorrow, so I had an "excuse" to say no to work tomorrow.


Viola Intonada - Oct 19, 2005 2:41 pm (#1160 of 2980)

Bob Denver died?!?!? When did he die? I've been paying less attention to the outside world than I realized. I can't wait until soccer season is over. (Only one more week, yeah!)

I have to say that books are one of the hardest things for me to get rid of. I love to go through and reread them when I can't find anything new that sounds appealing to me. There are some books that I know I will never reread (such as the Piers Anthony Zanth series) but I don't want to get rid of them incase my children (when they are much older) are interested in reading them. I don't like getting books from the library because then I don't feel that I can enjoy the book at my own pace, plus I'm always worried that something will happen to it and then I'll get over due notices and death threats from the librarians..... (shivers at the thought)

Hubby and I put together a wall full of floor to ceiling bookcases. It is far more full than we ever anticipated it being. We can't fit half the things we had hoped to, such as trophies, movies, CDs and such. I did manage to fit quite an assortment of Harry Potter legos on the shelves though.


timrew - Oct 19, 2005 3:12 pm (#1161 of 2980)

Loopy Lupin:- This actually involved paper (made from trees) and pencil (made from wood and graphite).

Wayne, you're young enough to remember paper and pencils? When I was at school, it was a slate, that we scratched on with a stylus!


Catherine - Oct 19, 2005 3:33 pm (#1162 of 2980)

Wayne, you're young enough to remember paper and pencils? When I was at school, it was a slate, that we scratched on with a stylus! Timrew

At least we aren't mentioning papyrus rolls or scratching cuneiform on a clay tablet....


timrew - Oct 19, 2005 3:39 pm (#1163 of 2980)

Catherine, it could have been cuneiform on a clay tablet..........when you get to my age, the memory starts to fog.............


Chemyst - Oct 19, 2005 5:06 pm (#1164 of 2980)

I was going to say that I was too much of a cheap-skate to have character sheets, so I settled for just the pillow slip.   .... but I worried that the character was low in dexterity and couldn't quite get the tongue into the cheek.

Thank you all for sharing your bookshelf stories. I feel a lot more grateful now.
I've noticed that there are two kinds of reactions among people who visit our home for the first time. One kind is astonishment at how many bookshelves we have; and then there are the others who think this is quite normal. You forum folk definitely fall into the quite normal zone!

Puck, the story about your friend with the unfinished changing table made me smile. Ours got done only because I was the one who built it – all by myself. My romantic myth of a young couple sharing a project to prepare for the first baby sort of got blown to smithereens. That was many years ago. Today it is in the sun porch and we call it a 'dog loft' because our beagle likes the height. She'll sit on it to watch the squirrels and bunnies that scamper across the back yard.


dizzy lizzy - Oct 19, 2005 7:22 pm (#1165 of 2980)

I remember a saying that says something along the lines of the best kind of interior decorating is building bookshelves. I have the largest collection of books within my family and even then I think some of you guys would have more than me.

For me, and for quite a few of you no doubt, my lounge-room and study are arranged around bookcases. I go into raptures over the thought of having to buy a new bookcase and spend days rearranging my house to accommodate said books and their shelving; and completely forget I would be better of getting the electrician to come to my house and fix my stove.



Viola Intonada - Oct 19, 2005 7:44 pm (#1166 of 2980)

Dizzy, Why would you want some one to fix your stove? Then you would have to use it! :goofygrin:

The week that my stove was broke was one of my happiest weeks in my house. I didn't have to cook or clean the kitchen the whole week. What wonderful bliss. Then my husband had to prove that he was handy around the house, he ordered the part, installed it and ever after the stove worked perfectly. I'll have to do a better job of breaking it next time.....


The giant squid - Oct 20, 2005 3:51 am (#1167 of 2980)

He thinks I won't do it. Silly boy.--Marie E.

You would think that after all these years he'd have learned to tell when you're serious. It doesn't happen often, but there's a certain look you get in your eye...

I just have a minor bookshelf gripe. Either no one makes paperback-sized bookshelves, or no one around me sells them. It irritates me to have so much wasted space on these 10" deep shelves with my 5" books. The closest thing I've seen are "media shelves", designed to fit DVDs/VHS/etc. They're shallow enough to soothe that twitch, but they just aren't tall or wide enough. And, of course, I don't have the patience to build my own...

Then again, as a guy I have perfected the use of the floor as a low, unlimited-width shelf.



T Brightwater - Oct 12, 2005 7:54 am (#1168 of 2980)

If you were in the Chicago area, Mike, I'd direct you to 57th St. Bookcases. My advice is to go to the nearest used book dealer or independent bookstore - people who frequent those places usually have lots of books, and you're likely to find flyers for small companies that will make bookshelves in any size you want. The store owner may also have some recommendations.


Denise P. - Oct 20, 2005 7:03 am (#1169 of 2980)

It irritates me to have so much wasted space on these 10" deep shelves with my 5" books.

Mr. Denise took pieces of 2x4's and put them on the shelf to raise books placed on it. Then we put another row of books in front, covering the 2x4's. You get twice the books on the shelf and you can still easily see the titles of both rows. Of course, then we also put books horizontally on top of the back (elevated) row of books.


Kowalla - Oct 20, 2005 11:01 am (#1170 of 2980)

Hi. I know this is totally off-subject, and it may also be old news, but I saw something today that I HAD to mention. Has anyone seen a copy of Teen Vogue? I saw one and I couldn't help but notice that Emma Watson is on the front cover of the magazine! Naturally, my first thought was "OOH! I MUST post that on the forum!" Anyway, on the subject of bookshelves, my husband was nice enough to make me my own set of shelves for our bedroom for Christmas one year. That was so sweet of him. Good luck to all who are searching for the perfect bookshelves


Madam Pince - Oct 20, 2005 11:42 am (#1171 of 2980)

Poor Viola -- I'm sorry to be the bearer of such bad news. Yes, Gilligan passed away on Sept. 2nd. Very sad.

Wow, Rhys sleeps 7-8 hours at night??!!!?? How fantastic is that! Congratulations, Denise!!!!

Dizzy Lizzy, I just discovered the neatest thing while I was reading posts. If you put your cursor over your avatar of your dog, and then the cursor turns into that "hand" thingy with the finger outstretched, then you can give your dog a scratch on the tummy! Which, of course, I did.


Catherine - Oct 20, 2005 1:08 pm (#1172 of 2980)

What a day. I was off from work, and I think I am more tired from "working" at home today than I have been the past few months.

My rugs are still not back from the rug cleaners. They were supposed to deliver them yesterday, then today, and now tomorrow. Grrr. I'm tired of living on a rug pad--its surface grips dog hair and dirt and dust and looks disgusting unless one vacuums it every five mintues, which of course I am not about to do.

Daisy has recovered well from her surgery, and it looks like her eardrum is intact, which is great news. To make cleaning the wounds easier, the vet cut all of the fur off of her ear, which made her lopsided and even sillier-looking. At my request, the other ear was barbered as well. Now her face is very round and funny.

Waits for Kim to chime in that shih-tzus look funny all of the time...


The giant squid - Oct 20, 2005 1:41 pm (#1173 of 2980)

But Denise...what you're suggesting would actually require effort on my part, and that's just not done. Actually, I've done a similar thing with the bookcase we're storing our VHS tapes on, as I have 2 cases with three shelves each and I needed 8 shelves worth of space. The bottom row is doubled up using old tapes we never watch as the "lifts".

Hmm...using the Mr. P. method I might actually be able to get all of my Heinlein books on one shelf. That's almost enough incentive to overcome my general lethargy and procrastinatory impulse. Almost.

Catherine, Daisy may look silly, but I'm sure she looks better with both ears lopped than just one. If anyone asks, just tell 'em it's her Hallowe'en costume.



Puck - Oct 20, 2005 2:10 pm (#1174 of 2980)

Or, you could get her an actual costume to cover up those ears! I saw doggy darth Vader costumes during a hunt for one for my son.

Okay, I know it was likely a fluke, but Natalie slept from 9pm-5am last night! Then, went back down after a feeding until I got her up at 8:30 so I could take Maya to school. I, of course, was awake every hour checking to be sure she was still breathing!

Got to go get the bread from the machine. I love appliances that make it seem like I put true effort into a dinner, when really I spoent less than 10 minutes. Now, if only I could find one to take the dishes from the sink and move them into the dish washer...



Lina - Oct 20, 2005 2:17 pm (#1175 of 2980)

Kathy, it's so nice to see you around! I'm glad that Natalie is starting to give you more time for us!


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 20, 2005 3:09 pm (#1176 of 2980)

Waits for Kim to chime in that shih-tzus look funny all of the time...---Catherine

Well, they do.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 20, 2005 3:38 pm (#1177 of 2980)

Waits for Kim to chime in that shih-tzus look funny all of the time..-Catherine

As much as I love dogs...I have to agree that shih-tzus do look funny. Sorry Catherine



Julie Aronson - Oct 20, 2005 5:13 pm (#1178 of 2980)

If I could guarantee the amount of time I'd spend at home, I'd have a shih-tzu. A friend has some and they are the sweetest, most adorable dogs I've ever encountered. Admittedly, I don't spend much time around dogs, but still!



Viola Intonada - Oct 20, 2005 6:47 pm (#1179 of 2980)

Thanks for the info Madame Pince. I guess that tiny ship is now surely lost, since it has lost the courage of its fearless crew, sigh....


CatherineHermiona - Oct 20, 2005 9:40 pm (#1180 of 2980)

Kathy, I'm glad to see you around! I know that you must be very busy (it would be strange that you aren't).

That must be horrible running around every so often for a heart surgery. But as long as it helps...........

My detention is over. I can be on the forum again (Mum told me that I can't go to forum until Friday. What a cruel detention! And only because I helped other people in their reports.). In the meantime lots of things happened. I was shooting a serie on Tuesday and my shooting was terrible. Only 138 (I was shooting that bad at the end of my 5th grade). Well, I hope today things will be better. A report for Croatian teacher was very well. It was about history of the movie and it's developing. Me and all people I helped to get an A. Today we are getting results from Physics. I hope it will go well too. Well, that's all I can remember of now.

Good night/morning everyone! Kate


Ydnam96 - Oct 20, 2005 10:20 pm (#1181 of 2980)

Unfortunately I have been having some money issues for the last year or so. Because of that I have sold every book and movie that I don't HAVE to keep. I managed to whittle down my collection of books to about 1/3 or 1/4 of what I previously had and cut my movies by over half. Yay for Half.com.

Now my book cases actually look clean instead of having books piled everywhere Smile I actually got rid of the college metal crate shelve I used to have them all on. It was liberating. Now I just borrow books either from friends or the library.

Kate: your mom must be pretty nice. My mom would have grounded me (detention I guess) for a lot longer In fact, I was grounded for an entire semester my Junior year of high school because I got a D in Algebra II (and really in most places it would have been a C, it was a 76 out of 100, but our school had a strange grading scale).

Catherine, how sad for your doggy to have it's ear hair all shaved off. We had to shave our dog and she always looked silly (she was a very long haired Tibetan Spaniel and in the summer if we didn't shave her she would overheat.) but she looked like a rat when you took all the hair off. A loveable adorable rat. But a rat none-the-less.

So, my grandparents are right in the path of Wilma. They are going to go stay in a hotel that is a hurricane-"proof" because they live in a mobile home. My other grandpa is in the hospital- so he is pretty safe I think. Plus, he is further up the coast of Florida so I don't think they are in much danger. Man, there have been a lot of storms this year!

Well, I'm off to bed. I'm heading to downtown LA tomorrow with a friend, neither of us have been...I'm sure it will be an adventure. Happy Friday all!!


Lina - Oct 21, 2005 5:35 am (#1182 of 2980)

Ydnam96: Kate: your mom must be pretty nice.
You just say that because you know I will read! Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 464751818


T Brightwater - Oct 21, 2005 5:58 am (#1183 of 2980)

Ydnam96 - Los Angeles has a downtown??? Where?  Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 2775603007  

Hope your grandparents are ok.

Kate, good to see you again! I guess "But Hermione does it!" wouldn't work as an excuse...


Finn BV - Oct 21, 2005 6:32 am (#1184 of 2980)

LOL, Brightwater!

Mandy, best wishes to your grandparents! We don't need another hurricane disaster.

I have to rush off to class, but check TLC for my name in the Extra! thing… I sent some news in!



Eponine - Oct 21, 2005 7:11 am (#1185 of 2980)

Finn, I was wondering if that was you.

My sister and her kids have been visiting me for the week. They left this morning, and while I'm glad to have my house back, I miss them like crazy when they leave. We had a good time while they were here.

I hope everyone is having a great day!


Puck - Oct 21, 2005 8:17 am (#1186 of 2980)

Mandy, best to your Grandparents.

Does anyone watch Amazing Race? They were in New Orleans in this week’s episode (obviously taped over the summer.) It was so sad to see the city as it was. There was a family from there participating as well, and their home was lost.

Trying to type left handed with a cat on my lap while feeding the baby is not easy. Think I'll try reading the threads instead.



Ydnam96 - Oct 21, 2005 8:47 am (#1187 of 2980)

Lina: well I knew you were reading it but I meant it as well! Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 2752390508

T Brightwater: I've been told it does, I'll find out today. Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042

Thanks for the good thoughts and wishes for my grandparents. They've been through many years of hurricanes so I don't think they are scared and they are doing what they should (which is getting out of the unsafe building). So I'm hoping for the best!

Eponine: LOVE the avatar


kaykay1970 - Oct 21, 2005 8:55 am (#1188 of 2980)

Puck sounds like you are pretty good at multi-tasking. That seems to come with motherhood. I always kept a knit hat on one of my babies when we went to my other childrens' baseball games (his hair was thin and I didn't want his head to burn). I was feeding him a bottle and two people had already tried to put his little cap back on when I reached over with one hand had placed it on in an instant. They were like "How did you do that!"

My niece's doctors called my sister yesterday. They are doing all her repairs with one surgery. They are going to stich open the faulty valves in her heart so that they won't throw clots, remove the clot already present, re-route those veins and put in the pacemaker. It will require open-heart with a heart-lung bypass for the entire surgery. There is a great danger in the use of the heart-lung bypass because of her strokes. They have not scheduled the surgery yet so I will keep you posted. She may have to take her back to Nashville today because the site on her thigh that they put the initial heart cath into looks infected.


Stephanie M. - Oct 21, 2005 9:36 am (#1189 of 2980)

Puck, you really can multi-task!

I love having my room really clean and my bookshelves in order... Except my room looks like a tornado was having a party in it.

Mandy, I hope your grandparents are staying safe!!

Kaykay, I wish your niece all the best! It sounds like the doctors, who will be operating on her, really know what they are doing! It's good that it will all be in one surgery.

Okay, I I'm off to my next class and I will be back once I get home.... unless I decide to take a nap...

Have a good day everyone!!!


Madam Pince - Oct 21, 2005 10:15 am (#1190 of 2980)

Mandy, hope your family members all weather the storm OK, and all other Florida folks too.

Puck, it's so good to see you on the threads again! I'll bet baby Natalie is just such a sweetheart! Sounds like you are doing fantastic -- yay!

I did see The Amazing Race when they were in New Orleans and I thought about the hurricane devastation, too. I wondered about that Louisiana family that lost during that episode and whether or not their house made it through the storm -- so it didn't? I hadn't heard that -- what a shame! I wasn't exactly "pulling" for them to do well in the show because they seemed a little obnoxious to me, but it's a real bummer that they lost in their own home state and then to be followed up by the storm disaster - I feel sorry for them.

Hope everybody has fun weekend plans! I think rain is going to keep us indoors most of the time, although we may try a zoo or aquarium adventure on Sunday maybe. I'm almost inspired to try building a bookcase and re-arranging my books! Ahhhhh.... no, not really. I have plenty of bookcases - I need to go move one from my aunt's house over here to my house soon though, and then I can move all the books that I still have left at my Mom's here close to me again. I went through my bookcases last year and got rid of a couple boxes of books that I collected from years of being in a book club back when I was working -- books that were "ok" but not keepers -- mostly ones that I ended up getting because I forgot to send in that little card that says "no don't send me this month's selection."


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 21, 2005 11:59 am (#1191 of 2980)

Mandy, my grandmother lives in Naples, and not only did she leave the area, but her car broke down in bumper to bumper traffic. She is not particularly mobile, either. The last thing we need right now is another bad storm.


The giant squid - Oct 21, 2005 3:56 pm (#1192 of 2980)

Mandy/T Brightwater--Los Angeles does have a downtown. The hard part, though, is figuring out if you're even in LA at all! Seriously, you can drive 5 blocks and pass through three "towns" out there.


kaykay1970 - Oct 21, 2005 7:21 pm (#1193 of 2980)

My daughter went on a hayride with the church tonight. They just passed my house on their way back to the church. They were singing one of our school cheers to the top of their lungs. It would be so sad for the lot of them to get arrested for disturbing the peace on a church activity!!


Ydnam96 - Oct 21, 2005 8:46 pm (#1194 of 2980)

So I went to downtown LA, well as far as Olavera street which is a really cute area kinda like a Little Mexico. Then I went to Chinatown, we did not like that...it wasn't really all that great. But then took the metrorail to Pasadena, and I kid you not, just outside of Chinatown there is a field of corn. REALLY. I'm serious. In the middle of LA. A cornfield. It was so strange.


Amilia Smith - Oct 21, 2005 8:58 pm (#1195 of 2980)

Long week. You remember that storytelling class I'm taking? Well, our big final project is to stand up in front of the class and tell a prepared story. **harder than it sounds** My turn was yesterday. So I've been in a panic this last week, reading and rereading my story over and over again. The rule was, if you picked a folktale, that has been passed down orally for generations, you can tell it in your own words. But if you pick a literary tale, which was actually written by someone, you have to memorize it and use the author's words. Guess which one I picked. If only I hadn't fallen in love with Eleanor Farjeon . . . and then chosen such a long story . . . I told Farjeon's "Westwoods," with a running time, after being cut, of about a half-hour. Amazingly, it went off very well! My classmates and professor were very complimentary. And now that that is over I can eat again . . . and sleep again . . . and post on the forum again . . . :-)



Elanor - Oct 22, 2005 12:12 am (#1196 of 2980)

I'm so happy for you Mills, that's wonderful! I know that feeling well: the pressure when preparing your speech, the moment when you start to act as Ron before a Quidditch match... How many times I asked myself: "Nobody forced me to be here! I must be mental. OK, this time is the last one". But the relief after it is done, especially if all went well, is wonderful; it always make me feel as if I was floating ten centimeters above the ground. I'm sure your weekend is going to be great!

It has been a very stressful and tiring week here and I am so glad it is over, the more because holidays start here today, yeah!!!!!!!! Here, we call them "All Saints Day holidays" but I believe some of you call them "Fall break", am I right? It should be great, especially if the lovely weather we have for weeks now (mild and sunny) continues: the trees are beautiful and I am planning to do nice walks in the countryside, go the cinema (starting with Polanski's "Oliver Twist" tomorrow), meet some old friends, read some good books and post on the forum, sounds nice, doesn't it? OK, there is also a lot of housework that waits for me since it's been a few weeks now that I started to say "ok, this you'll tidy up during the holidays" but, I don't know why, I'm less tempted by this now...

I wish you a wonderful weekend! Hugs and cheering charms all around for those who need them!



Choices - Oct 22, 2005 10:11 am (#1197 of 2980)

I have to brag about my new (and first) grandson. Born last night - October 21 at 8:20 PM - weighs 8 pounds and 7 ounces. What can I say - he is adorable. :-)


Finn BV - Oct 22, 2005 10:42 am (#1198 of 2980)

Glad the stress is off, Mills.

Congratulations Choices!! That is wonderful! Might we be seeing a picture of him anytime soon or is the "Completely obsessed with Harry Potter" not leaving…?


CatherineHermiona - Oct 22, 2005 10:44 am (#1199 of 2980)

Congratulations, Choices!!!!!!!!!!!! I too hope we will see his picture anytime soon.

Anyway, I finished re-reading second Laura book and I realized how much I forgot. It is really fascinating. I could say I found another similarity between Laura and HP books. Huge similarity. You know that LV hates love and he has never experienced it. Same goes to Duke Borbon on Black Duke. If he has to talk about love he uses word Signet of Seven Moons. The legend about it is really fascinating. Maybe LV too has some other word for love and he had allready mention that few times without we realized. And that Elyson! I could almost feel Dumbledore in him! Fascinating book and you should all read it! Sorry if I picked wrong thread but other way I would have to make 2 or more messages instead of one and I'm not premium member. And this way more people will read it. Thanks on understanding me!

I like History this year. It's full of revolutions and I love them the most. Especially France revolution and I would like to find about it more so if anyone knows some book I would be very greatful to him/her.



Kerstin - Oct 22, 2005 10:53 am (#1200 of 2980)

Congratulations to Choices and the parents. Of course he is adorable!!!! He is a new born baby, so he must be!
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kaykay1970 - Oct 22, 2005 10:58 am (#1201 of 2980)

Great news Choices! Congratulations to you and the parents!


Ydnam96 - Oct 22, 2005 11:17 am (#1202 of 2980)

Congratulations Choices! How wonderful!


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 22, 2005 11:44 am (#1203 of 2980)

Congratulations Choices.

Mills, I've always hated speaking in front of a group of people. Good job.


Stephanie M. - Oct 22, 2005 11:55 am (#1204 of 2980)

Congratulations Choices!!! Your first grandson! That's so exciting!

Yesterday, I passed by a HUGE Harry Potter billboard. I'll try to take a picture of it when I'm coming home from school. Then after I saw the billboard I saw 3 buses with the poster on it. I saw a paper poster on a construction area along with a Rent poster and a Wallace and Grommet poster. After that I was going to dinner and I saw another Harry Potter sign on a new phone booth.

Yesterday was just a strange day. It felt I like I was dreaming all day because I was so tired and weird things kept happening.

Have a good day everyone! Keep warm and dry! (It's very cold, windy, and rainy here.)


Ydnam96 - Oct 22, 2005 3:13 pm (#1205 of 2980)

I'm going tomorrow to get a tattoo!!! EEEEEEEEEE! I'm excited and scared all at once.

Stephanie, yesterday was a strange day!

So my grandfather who is in the hospital is having surgery today to remove the fluid around his heart. Hopefully it goes well. Thanks for all your thoughts! They are appreciated.


kaykay1970 - Oct 22, 2005 3:32 pm (#1206 of 2980)

Hope everything goes well for your Grandfather Ydnam. I will keep him in my thoughts.


Madam Pince - Oct 22, 2005 4:36 pm (#1207 of 2980)

Congratulations, Choices! How wonderful to welcome your new grand-baby into the world!

Mills, it sounds like you did a great job! You memorized something that takes half an hour to recite??!!?? Wow!!! Fantastic!

Good health wishes to all who need them!

What a blah dreary cold rainy day it was here today.

***Is regretting singing "The Good Old Song" with Loopy last week. ***   Sure, we win against undefeated Florida State, and then this week we can't even manage more than 5 points (!!!) against North Carolina! Bleah... It's depressing, I tell you.

I hate baby blue.


Viola Intonada - Oct 22, 2005 5:42 pm (#1208 of 2980)

Madame Pince, you should try being a Purdue fan.

Congratulations, Choices!

Last night my oldest daughter had a costume party at school. She waffled between dressing in the 50's style or in her Hermione costume. She finally decided to be Hermione, but complained that her white shirt was too small and that the sweater was too itchy. I had just re-sewn the clasp on her cloak and Hubby was trying to print a new Gryffindor crest because her old one "disappeared". Fifteen minutes before we were supposed to leave, she decides she wants to wear the 50's costume. (Hermione was last year's costume and the Girl Scouts had a Sock Hop in the Spring) She ended up winning "Best Costume for a girl" in her grade level. I was shocked (and so was she). I was disappointed that she didn't wear the Hermione costume, but you have to let your children have their own way sometime, right?


timrew - Oct 22, 2005 6:02 pm (#1209 of 2980)

Choices, congratulations on the birth of your grandson! My own son got married about three weeks ago, so I guess that the birth of my first grandchild is the next thing I can look forward to!


kaykay1970 - Oct 22, 2005 6:46 pm (#1210 of 2980)

My eldest daughter had great fun last year with her brother's old Harry Potter Halloween costume. The high school kicked off the DEAR (drop everything and read) Program. As a class officer she got to participate. The children picked a favorite book character that they imitated while a narrator introduced them. She used her brother's school robe and dressed as Hermoine. She used a pretty convincing English accent in her presentation to great applause by her classmates. She uses this same English accent after every new HP book or movie release for months until it drives me mad. This is actually my fault as I started it. When I read allowed to my younger ones I always enjoy providing different voices for characters.


shepherdess - Oct 22, 2005 10:22 pm (#1211 of 2980)

Congratulations, Choices! I'm soon to be experiencing the same thing-my first grandchild is due November 1st (don't know if it's going to be a boy or girl).

Now it seems I have something of a dilemma. My daughter wants to know what I want the grandchild to call me, and I haven't a clue. Now, personally, I have no objection to being called "grandma", but this child will have four grandmothers-at least one of which will go by that name.

So for the sake of distinguishing me from all the other grandmothers, I'm trying to come up with a title that's somewhat different, without being too bazaar. I can't do "granny"-that hurts too much. I don't care for things like "memaw" or "nanna". The only thing I can come up with is "grandmom".

Anyway, I was wondering if any forum members have ideas of good names for grandmothers.


kaykay1970 - Oct 22, 2005 10:50 pm (#1212 of 2980)
Edited Oct 22, 2005 11:24 pm

If you want to feel really old go for Mammy! HAHA No offence to grandmothers called Mammy.This makes me think old because my great grandmother lived to be 102. She was my Mammy White. Actually I think Nanny is cute but it is awfully similar to the Nanna you said you don't like.I googled grandmother names and found Nan, Gram, Gran, Gramma, Grammie, Maw Maw, Mi Mi and Mum.

I can't believe I just spell checked that!


TwinklingBlueEyes - Oct 23, 2005 12:21 am (#1213 of 2980)

Congratulations Choices! Grands are much more fun than the kids were! Trust me... ;-)


Elanor - Oct 23, 2005 12:36 am (#1214 of 2980)

TBE!!!!! I'm so happy to "see" you here again! How are you? And what about your house? **waving like mad**

Congratulations Choices, what wonderful news! Has this lovely baby a name yet?

Kate, I know several good books about the French Revolution (I had a course about it for one whole semester when I was at the university) but I'm afraid they're all in French. I'll try and search to see if some of them were translated in English, ok? **singing: "Ah, ça ira, ça ira, ça ira..." (traditional song of that time )**

Edit: Kate, I've found one: "The French Revolution: 1770-1814 (History of France S.)" , by Francois Furet, Antonia Nevill (Translator). It is in paperback edition on Amazon.uk. François Furet is one of the best authors who wrote about the Revolution. Hope it helps!


dizzy lizzy - Oct 23, 2005 1:40 am (#1215 of 2980)

My Step-sisters and brother call their maternal Grandmother - GM! It is pronounced Gee-em and the "g" sound is the long "g" that you find when saying Jeans, Jail, Jenny etc - and having said that I find my self a little dizzy for the journey into the intracies of English pronunciation!

Story goes is that she didn't feel like a Grandmother so refused to be called by any of those sorts of names. I have met her a few times and I can vouch for her strong personality resulting in the very diplomatic name.



CatherineHermiona - Oct 23, 2005 3:16 am (#1216 of 2980)

Thank you a lot, Elanor! I thought that you will find some. After all, you are French. I'll try to convince my mum to buy me one.

Good for you, Mandy! What is the tattoo going to be?



MoonRider - Oct 23, 2005 6:02 am (#1217 of 2980)

Catherine: "Moonrider

Are you referring to an anti-hero? Someone who has the qualities of a villain, but may also have enough heroic qualities that he/she is nonetheless sympathetic?"

That might be it!! For some crazy reason, I was thinking I would be able to recognize the term-----no matter that it's been almost 30 years (LOL), silly me-----and that sort of rings a bell!

Thanks, so much! I can always count on you-----and I really appreciate it!!

Congratulations, Choices, on the birth of your grandson!!

Y'all take care!!



kaykay1970 - Oct 23, 2005 7:48 am (#1218 of 2980)

My Grandmother's house is in disrepair because she has not lived there for about 11 years. The foundation is in bad shape. We thought it would have to be torn down. My sister's brother-in-law works in construction and has taken a look at it. He says it can be repaired but it will be costly. My sister is going to buy it and he will help them fix the foundation. The entire basement will have to be gutted and they will have to start from scratch there.I can't wait to help them with they get to the reconstruction part.I am so glad someone in the family will have it. I was so dreading watching it being torn down. I have many fond childhood memories there. Her house is right next to Mom's and my sister owns the land behind it. She has not been able to do anything with her own land because she does not have road frontage. So she is the perfect person to buy it.


Catherine - Oct 23, 2005 9:02 am (#1219 of 2980)

Anyway, I was wondering if any forum members have ideas of good names for grandmothers.

Well, our family has had some straightforward names, and some "creative" names. My daughters call their paternal grandmother "Nana" and my mother is called by the name that my daughter bestowed on her when she first learned to talk. My mom's name is Ann, and my daughter just started calling her the syllables "Ann-nay." So now my mom is "Annae" and she vastly perfers this to "Grandma," "Grandmother" or, worst of all in her opinion, "Granny."

I think mom got off easy, though, because my cousin, who was nine months older than I am, called our grandmother "Moo Moo" when he learned to talk, and as my mom and I lived with my grandparents the first year of my life (my Dad was in Vietnam), I picked up on this name, also. Only, I shortened it to Moo, and, unfortunately for my poor grandmother, that became the name we all called her. You can imagine what a good sport, and good soul she was to allow her grandchildren to call he such a name.

I've been most unproductive this weekend. I managed to catch a horrid cold and my ears are completely stuffed up; everyone is fed up with me telling them to stop mumbling and speak up properly.


Ydnam96 - Oct 23, 2005 9:11 am (#1220 of 2980)

The tattoo is going to be of a celtic cross. I'll post pictures in my profile (well a link to one) when I've gotten. I'm nervous, but excited.

KayKay, that awesome. It will definetly be fun to re-do the house. Congrats on that!

As far as grandparents. I've only ever called my grandparents gramma and grampa.


kaykay1970 - Oct 23, 2005 9:36 am (#1221 of 2980)

I am so mad at myself. I have been going through genealogy research I have collected. I was looking for interesting things for my daughter to use in her family tree project. I have misplaced some very old photos. One I know that is missing is of my great-great grandfather Hark Clenney with all 12 of his sons, each sporting a huge handle bar mustache. I love this photo even though they are all showing off live opossums (I don't get it either). But the missing picture that really has me upset was taken of my grandmother in 1917. She was two and dragging her teddy bear behind her. Way cute!

My daughter is reciting The Highwayman poem by Alfred Noyes as her drama class presentation tomorrow. I am so glad because I have been patiently listening over and over while she practiced. I am so glad that today is the last day that the highwayman will be riding, riding through my house.


Pigwidgeon - Oct 23, 2005 10:06 am (#1222 of 2980)

When I was growing up, I was very lucky to not only have both sets of grandparents alive, I have a step-grandmother, three great-grandparents on one side and another great grandparent on the other side. When I was very little, this is how I distinguished them: my "grandma and grandpa with the candy" were my maternal great-grandparents (they always had gumdrops and Alpine mints!), my "grandma and grandpa with Fannie (their dog)" were my paternal grandparents, I always called my grandfather and stepgrandmother "Grandpa and Pat," and so on.

Kaykay -- interesting you mention that poem. One of my favorite singers, Loreena McKennit set it to music!


Puck - Oct 23, 2005 11:12 am (#1223 of 2980)

Congrats to Choices! You said 1st grandson, so do you have granddaughters?

Well, when Parker was a toddler he refused to say grandma, just to tease her because he knew she wanted him to. I suggested she refer to herself as "Cookie", because he really liked that word. I also once saw a sitcom where the woman felt too young to be called "grandma" and decided the kids should refer to her as "Goddess."

To go through life being referred to as "Moo" you'd have to be a VERY good sport.

Kaykay, how old is your niece? Thoughts are with her (and Mandy's grandparents.)

Natalie was fussy and wouldn't nap yesterday, so I took her for a ride. Went to the store and bought some pants to fit my post-baby waistline, so now I can dress in something other than yoga pants.

For any interested, the next episode of "New Yankee Workshop" is showing how to build a library system of shelves that you can custom fit to you room.

Oh, and Toys-r-Us is sending home fliers of HP merchandise, including chess sets, wands, and time turners. One can home with my boy's halloween costume.



Chemyst - Oct 23, 2005 11:14 am (#1224 of 2980)

Congratulations, Choices!

We always called our Grandmothers "Grandma __(insert last name here)___"

MoonRider, I didn't answer earlier because I didn't think this would be the term you were looking for, but if antihero isn't clicking for you, how about sympathetic antagonist? It is a bad guy you hate, laugh at, and feel sorry for all at the same time, sort of like the Grinch, who stole Christmas. The term 'sympathetic antagonist' is also used in pharmacology where it has a totally different meaning.

I think this evening will be a pot-of-chili night. There is a definite nip in the air today -
 ...and the back story is that a few days ago I read Catherine's post about making chili right before I made a grocery store trip; it sounded so good then that I bought all the ingredients that day.


kaykay1970 - Oct 23, 2005 11:37 am (#1225 of 2980)
Edited Oct 23, 2005 12:14 pm

Puck my niece is nine. They still have not scheduled her surgery. It usually takes a while for them to decide with her on exact procedures because they want to discuss all the possible effects of everything they do. She is a very special case. She can't have a heart transplant because she has transposition of the greater arteries which basically means that her unique circulatory system will not connect to a healthy heart. So far the only effects of their new findings has been an arithmia (they don't think that the clot will move)so maybe they can schedule the surgery during summer vacation, I hope. It is better for her to have her surgeries then because the way her blood mixes she has lowered immunities. They always try if they can to do things out of cold and flu season.


The giant squid - Oct 23, 2005 1:27 pm (#1226 of 2980)

For any interested, the next episode of "New Yankee Workshop" is showing how to build a library system of shelves that you can custom fit to you room.—Puck

The problem there is the word "build". As chairman of Procrastinators Anonymous it's highly unlikely that I'll ever get around to building anything useful or important, unless the wife threatens to withhold dinner or something...

Choices, I wish I could offer a suggestion, but growing up I just had Grandma Walsh and Grandma Wengel. We weren't terribly creative in that area... Marie's girls have moved up from last names to first names, giving us Grandma Hazel and Grandma Cindy. "Grandma Choices" just doesn't flow right, though.



Loopy Lupin - Oct 23, 2005 1:38 pm (#1227 of 2980)

So now my mom is "Annae" and she vastly perfers this to "Grandma," "Grandmother" or, worst of all in her opinion, "Granny."—Catherine[

Ahem! What's wrong with a good old "Granny"? My Granny is still going strong at 80 thank you very much.


Catherine - Oct 23, 2005 1:53 pm (#1228 of 2980)

Loopy, I dunno what was wrong with "Granny," but I think she believed it would make her seem too "old."

My mother is, ahem, quite "high maintenance." To give an example, the night before her spinal surgery, she had her nails and hair color done.

The first thing she asked for when I showed up to take care of her after her surgery was for me to brush her hair correctly and to apply her skin creams (notice the plural here; it's not an accident). I remember putting on her compression hosiery after the surgery and complementing the new color of her toenails.

We won't even go into Mum's "neat-freak" aspects. Suffice it to say that even when she first came home from the hospital, the first thing she noticed in her bedroom was that the cleaning lady had dusted a picture and left it hanging at a slight angle.

I love her, but she's just not a "Granny" kind of girl!


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 23, 2005 1:53 pm (#1229 of 2980)

My only remaining grandparent goes by Mum Mum. I think her oldest grandchild started calling her that when he learned to talk.

Mike, I just noticed your email address. You, my friend, were a Goonie. I'm envious.


Lina - Oct 23, 2005 2:29 pm (#1230 of 2980)

Some protecting charms and shields as well as the healing charms to Mandy's grandparents!

Congratulations to Choices!

Talking about grandmothers, I had three of them and I called them all by the same grandma version, just followed with the first name.

((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) to all who need them!


Finn BV - Oct 23, 2005 3:19 pm (#1231 of 2980)

Rushing through the posts… I just finished the Ramayana this afternoon and read for 4 and a half hours straight (almost – stopping to guess Hangman along the way). I had to take notes too. I started a little past halfway through the book, and I am DONE! FINALLY!

Not much to say, just had to get that out of the way. Now I can come back and post again.

I call my grandmothers Nana and Gaga, although most of my friends use Grandma, Granny, or Gran. Follow Neville with that last one.


timrew - Oct 23, 2005 4:02 pm (#1232 of 2980)

My son refers to his Grandmother as Grandma, his grandfather as Grandad; but together they're known as 'The GPs'


Marè - Oct 23, 2005 4:24 pm (#1233 of 2980)

Hopping in for a moment (waves)...
naming your grandparents, interesting subject.
We just called our grandma and grandpa just that, only translated of course (= Oma and Opa) allthough I sometimes call my grandma "omie".
My other grandfather was called "Opa van Nero" or in transexplanation "Grandfather from the dog called Nero". My nieces and nephews called him grandfather from the pigeons (he had lots of pigeons too.) Notice the fact that apparently in both versions he belonged to the animals instead of the other way around.

PS Did any-one say goonie? Man, that movie gave me a fear for blenders!


Stephanie M. - Oct 23, 2005 5:28 pm (#1234 of 2980)

Well, one of my grandmothers completely refused to have any name like grandma, so we call her Arleney. Her real name is Arlene. LOL. We called my other grandmother simply, grandma.

My little cousin who turned 7 yesterday, calls his grandmother Gaga. My housekeeper has her grandchildren and great grandchildren call her Yaya because she is Greek and German.

I have been extremely busy this weekend. I read the rest of Ramayana and all of my other work. But Now I am still working on my science lab. So far it's five typed pages and I haven't answered most of the questions yet!

So I am off to finish my lab. I just needed a break so I decided to go to the Forum.

Edit: Yaya is pronounced as Ya-Ya not yeah-ya. LOL


Viola Intonada - Oct 23, 2005 5:37 pm (#1235 of 2980)

Shepherdess, Hubby's mom wanted our children to call her Grandmama. Unfortunately, children will call them whatever they choose. (I had a very hard time consistently calling her Grandmama) I only had one set of grandparents growing up. My mom's dad died when she was 14 and her mom died when she was 30, so I never knew them. I have always been partial to foreign languages as a way to distinguish between grandparents.

Tonight was definitely a perfect night for a pot of chili. I watched 3 soccer games, 2 of which were outside at least it wasn't raining, but it was chilly.


Mrs. Sirius - Oct 23, 2005 8:45 pm (#1236 of 2980)

Hi everybody, haven't chatted in long time but I wanted to drop my two knuts on the grandparents name.

We had planned on having out children calling my mother "abuela", Spanish for grandmother, and my mother-in-law was going to be GramAn (her name is An). My mother died too soon for it to have been an issue. Because I spoke Spanish exclusively with the children I always referred to their only remaining grandmother as abuela, so they call her that. But they called they grandfather Grand Daddy, and never noticed that his was in English.

Funny enough when my husband and I married, my mother-in-law suggested I call them MIL and FIL, short for mother-in-law and father-in-law.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 23, 2005 9:17 pm (#1237 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

Boy, you guys were chatty this weekend! I was out of town this weekend, I come home, and I have like a million posts to catch up on!!

First off, CONGRATS CHOICES!!!!!!!! I too hope we will be seeing pictures soon!

Ydnam, good luck with the tattoo! It shouldn't hurt too much! Let us know how it works out! (if you've gotten it already, I hope all went well!!)

I don't really have much to add to the "grandparent naming" discussion, as I've always called both my grandmothers "Grandmom". Although, when I was little, we used to call my mom's mom "MomMom" and she really liked that.

I got to talk to Aaron this weekend on the phone! I was so excited when he called that I almost started crying. I told him in my last letter that I had been telling everyone on the Forum about him, and that you all had sent your thoughts/prayers/charms. He told me to tell everyone that it means a lot to him and thanks! We actually got to talk for almost an hour, which was amazing and unexpected, but it made my whole weekend. He's doing well. In fact, I think he's handling being over there better than I am, which is sad on my part and good for him! He did annoy me a little bit though!! He told me at the end of our conversation that he has a surprise for me when he gets home but won't give me even the smallest hint as to what it is!!! I can't believe he expects me to wait 8 months to find out what it is!! I am the most impatient person alive! I could have killed him!!

Besides talking to Aaron, I spent my weekend down at Fort Knox visiting my friend Joe. He's a 2nd Lt. in the Army and is probably going to be deployed to Iraq in February. I haven't seen him in almost a year, so it was really nice to get to spend the weekend hanging out with him and all his Army buddies. Although, I must say, driving 4 hours to Louisville and 4 hours back in the rain was not fun at all!! But, I suppose it was worth it!!

Anyway, that's all from me for now. I'm exhausted from my drive back home tonight so I'm off to check the threads really really quick and then it's bed time for me! Hope everyone had a great weekend and that everyone has a great week this week!!



Marie E. - Oct 23, 2005 9:27 pm (#1238 of 2980)

Vlad, good catch on the Goonies. It's our only claim to fame. I always figured they cut out the backstory where Mikey Walsh had an older sister.


Ydnam96 - Oct 23, 2005 9:31 pm (#1239 of 2980)

Jenn, I 'm so glad you got to talk to Aaron! That's amazing.

Thanks for the well wishes on my tattoo...it's a funny story (and mods, if this is any way too religious please feel free to edit I don't want to offend anyone). I was feeling slightly “eh” about getting it. I really wanted it but had this seed of doubt. So I prayed about it and made a deal with God. If this was something that I would regret or would in any way be a bad experience now or in the future they He would have the guy I had the appt. with not be there for some reason. Otherwise, I was set to get it. My friend and I got to the store and haha, the artist had called in sick. We both just laughed and ended up going out to lunch. I'm not upset. I feel like if this is the way it should be then okay. Smile

So my leg is tattoo-free Smile

Thanks for the thoughts and prayers about my Grandparents. My one grandfather went through surgery okay and I believe is doing okay. My other grandparents ended up leaving Naples all together and are staying with a friend just south of Orlando. I guess they didn't want to take any chances. I don't blame them.

Mrs. Sirius MIL and FIL is pretty funny Smile

I do like the Oma and Opa, what language/culture is that from?


shepherdess - Oct 23, 2005 10:26 pm (#1240 of 2980)

Thanks folks; I knew I could count on forum members to give me lots of ideas to think about! That's why I asked the question here.

(Incidentally, I have nothing against "granny". But my mother's mother was the original "granny" in my life, and when my siblings started having kids, my mother became "granny". To me, THEY were "granny"; it just doesn't seem right for that to be my name. They are both dead. That word reminds of them; and I miss them both terribly. I just can't bring myself to use it. It's just too painful.)

Thanks again for the suggestions, everyone.

Oh, yeah, I didn't tell you-it's my Halloween baby who's baby is due the day after her birthday. But if she's anything like me, it'll end up being much later. lol


Elanor - Oct 24, 2005 12:25 am (#1241 of 2980)

I only knew 2 of my grand-parents: we called my grand-mother "Mémée" and my grand-father "Pépé" and we called my great-grand-mother "la vieille Mémée" (the old grandma). She wasn't offended at all to be called "the old grandma", she really found that cute. Actually, she was 90 when I was born, so no wonder I found her old when I was 4 or 5!

A lot of grand-parents nowadays don't want to be called "Mémée" or "Pépé" because they find it makes them feel too old and they prefer "Papy" and "Mamie" or other more personal names.

Jenn, I'm really happy for you!

Mandy, I'm happy everything went well for your grand-father too.

My thoughts and prayers to everyone on Wilma's path.


Snuffles - Oct 24, 2005 12:59 am (#1242 of 2980)

Choices- congratulations on your Grandson, hope we see a picture soon.

Jenn, glad you were able to speak to Aaron this weekend. Tell him you will send him extra books to read if he gives you a hint as to what the surprise is!

Ydam96 - you will have to put a link to the tattoo you nearly got!!!

Hope everyone in Wilma's path stays safe.

Happy Monday everyone



Kerstin - Oct 24, 2005 2:44 am (#1243 of 2980)

Mandy, Oma and Opa is German. Children in Germany often say Oma and Opa with her/his first name added.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 24, 2005 6:07 am (#1244 of 2980)

............compression hosiery......... – Catherine

Is that the politically correct term for "girdle"?

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who loved "Goonies."

Rabies! rabies!-- Martha Plimpton


Denise P. - Oct 24, 2005 6:12 am (#1245 of 2980)

I always said Grandma and Grandpa [insert last name of choice] and now, I refer to my grandmother as Gram but still call her Grandma. My own kids say Grandma and Papa. My dad's wife said they could call her Grammy, same as her other grandkids. MeMaw is a popular option in the South, which I really dislike. You could always do what the grandmother in Tears of Endearment did and have the grandchildren call you Mrs  [insert last name of choice here]

Yesterday, I recorded a marathon of the show Prison Break on F/X since I had heard it was good but I didn't start watching it when it first aired. I made the mistake of watching the first ep and ended up watching all seven episodes. It would end and I would tell myself I would just watch a few minutes. Thank goodness for Tivo so I could fast forward through commercials!! Even so, I finally went to bed well after 3 am. At least this way, I am caught up when the new episode airs tonight!


Loopy Lupin - Oct 24, 2005 7:55 am (#1246 of 2980)

Yesterday, I recorded a marathon of the show Prison Break on F/X since I had heard it was good but I didn't start watching it when it first aired—Denise[

I don't want to jinx anything, but I am noticing a trend lately. Unless I'm mistaken, there are more and more shows on television lately which have actual scripts and which feature actual actors. I'm also noticing that quite of few of the unique shows are actually pretty good.


Ydnam96 - Oct 24, 2005 8:44 am (#1247 of 2980)

Julie, there isn't an actual picture to show you online because I had the artist actually draw one up from a few crosses I liked so that it would be original. But he wasn’t' there so I don't know exactly what it would have looked like before I went in and we messed with it. I'll try and find (again) the cross I liked the most and I'll put a link in for that.

I've heard Prison Break is good as well, but I'm already watching too many shows I can't get addicted to any more (Alias, Lost, Gilmore Girls, Extreeme Makeover Home Edition, 7th Heaven, and sadly One Tree Hill).


haymoni - Oct 24, 2005 10:04 am (#1248 of 2980)

We used Grandma & Grandpa for my mom's parents and Nana & Baba (NahNah & BahBah) for my dad's parents.

My kids use Grandpa & Jane for my side and Grammy for my husband's side, which is what he used for his grandparents.

Jenn - not to quote "Grease" or anything, but you're becoming a one-woman USO!!!

Goonies was a great movie! I still watch it whenever it comes on.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 24, 2005 11:19 am (#1249 of 2980)

Hey everyone!!

Jenn - not to quote "Grease" or anything, but you're becoming a one-woman USO!!! –haymoni

You don't know the half of it Haymoni! I have so many friends in the military it's not even funny. I find myself hopping from base to base visiting people all the time. It's crazy.

Ydnam, I'm glad everything's going alright with your grandparents. Too bad about the tattoo though!!

Snuffles, I would take your advice about trying to bribe Aaron into giving me a hint about the surprise, but unfortunetly, I've already sent him Eldest and he knows it, so I've lost all means to bargin!! Oh well, I guess I could try it once he's read that and wants a new book!

Well, I'm off to check the threads! Cheering/Strengthening Charms to everyone who is in need of them!



The giant squid - Oct 24, 2005 12:16 pm (#1250 of 2980)

Mike, I just noticed your email address. You, my friend, were a Goonie. I'm envious.--I Am Used Vlad

Egad, I've been caught! Marie's always been better at the Truffle Shuffle, though... It was a fun day at the movie theater when someone caught the connection--for weeks every time i walked by one of the other managers he'd yell "Goonies!" It got old... Still, it's better than all the 90210 references in the 90s...

Mandy, while I have nothing against tattoos, I'm glad you didn't force yourself to go through with getting one if you weren't sure about it. If you've got even the slightest hesitation now, a few months/years/whatever down the road you'll find yourself staring in the mirror saying "What was I thinking?!"

Jenn, it's good to hear Aaron's doing okay over there. Keep sending him our well wishes. No matter what anyone's opinion of the war is, we all want our boys to come home safe. As for the surprise, you could always counter-surprise... "Well, I got you something, too, but if you're gonna make me wait 8 months for mine maybe I won't give it to you after all!" And then you've got 8 months to come up with something if he calls your bluff.

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Loopy Lupin - Oct 24, 2005 12:18 pm (#1251 of 2980)

Egad, I've been caught! Marie's always been better at the Truffle Shuffle, though..--- Mike

LOL. It is the 20th anniversary of that movie this year!


haymoni - Oct 24, 2005 12:34 pm (#1252 of 2980)

Have any of those kids gone on to lead normal lives???

Just read the interview over at Mugglenet - Rupert Grint likes listening to AC/DC.

I knew I liked that kid!


Loopy Lupin - Oct 24, 2005 12:49 pm (#1253 of 2980)

Have any of those kids gone on to lead normal lives???-- haymoni

Well, Sean Astin grew up to become a hobbit. Corey Feldman grew up to become a "former child star." Martha Plimpton continues to be George Plimpton's niece. Not sure about the others.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 24, 2005 1:04 pm (#1254 of 2980)

Have any of those kids gone on to lead normal lives???-- haymoni

Well, Sean Astin grew up to become a hobbit. Corey Feldman grew up to become a "former child star." Martha Plimpton continues to be George Plimpton's niece. Not sure about the others. -Loopy Lupin

So what you're saying Loopy is...no?



Finn BV - Oct 24, 2005 1:22 pm (#1255 of 2980)

Vlad, good catch on the Goonies. It's our only claim to fame. I always figured they cut out the backstory where Mikey Walsh had an older sister. –Marie

I obviously was born too late. What am I missing?

Mandy, funny story about your tattoo! That's a good one. Especially after reading the Ramayana which is completely full of sacrifices and omens and prayers and "deals" with the Gods.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 24, 2005 1:53 pm (#1256 of 2980)

I obviously was born too late. What am I missing? - Finn

Nothing super crucial. Just a movie called "Goonies." It predates you by about 7 years or so.



Snuffles - Oct 24, 2005 2:12 pm (#1257 of 2980)

***Sigh*** The Goonies, they don't make 'em like that anymore! Not sure if that's a good thing or not I always picture old Dolores Umbridge a bit like the Mama in that film!! Don't know about anyone else but 'Chunk' always made me feel slightly sick, especially the way he ate the icecream with the dead body! Bleeuughh!!



Madam Pince - Oct 24, 2005 2:25 pm (#1258 of 2980)

Mr. Pince absolutely loves "The Goonies" but I have to say I never really saw the attraction. I think part of it is probably that I haven't ever watched it all the way through at one sitting. I guess I should give that a try. But you know how it is with some movies -- you keep giving them "another chance" over and over and all you end up doing is taking lots of naps during them? I've never gotten all the way through "Eyes Wide Shut" after probably a gazillion tries. And I slept through "Hannah And Her Sisters" while on a date.

Loopy, I'm not sure if you're being facetious or if you really don't know, but anyway.... "compression hose" are those extremely tight stockings that doctors make you wear after you've had certain types of surgery -- it's supposed to prevent you from forming blood clots in your legs which I guess is a common post-surgical thing. Anyone who's ever helped out someone wearing them will tell you that they are a huge pain in the tuckus. My Mom had to wear them for what seemed like a very long time after having hip replacement surgery, and it was a huge job to get them on and off. She was on a schedule something like "two hours on, two hours off" or something (my brain has mercifully blocked out the exact details), and it was such a long struggle to get them on, and then it seemed like you just had to turn around the next minute and take them off again -- day and night. It was awful. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. But, they do their job apparently, so I guess they're a necessary evil.


Catherine - Oct 24, 2005 3:22 pm (#1259 of 2980)

Anyone who's ever helped out someone wearing them will tell you that they are a huge pain in the tuckus. --Madame Pince

Indeed, Madame Pince, indeed!

Wrestling those stockings onto someone who cannot move their legs properly is an aerobic activity, I assure all of you.

Not to mention, a huge pain in the arms, shoulders, and tuckus.

Fortunately, Mum has resumed her Queen Bee, High Maintenance status and vigorously enforces her presence among us all.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 24, 2005 4:03 pm (#1260 of 2980)

Oh the Goonies!! I know I'm slightly young for that movie (it came out the year I was born!) but I love it anyway! I haven't seen it in ages though. Although, with all this talk about it, I think I'll have to rent it this weekend and watch it again!



I Am Used Vlad - Oct 24, 2005 4:59 pm (#1261 of 2980)

Well, contrary to what I hinted at on an earlier chat thread, in the 80's I was not walking around with my mullet hanging over my red zipper jacket. In fact, I had short hair and wore a Levi's jacket. I was quite regularly told that I looked  like Sean Astin's character from The Goonies. That's part of the reason why I remember the name. Being a total geek does not hurt, either.

And Mike, I feel your pain. Although he is now best known as a fat hobbit, I ended up looking like Scooby Doo's best friend. When that movie came out, I endured no end of grief.


Finn BV - Oct 24, 2005 5:03 pm (#1262 of 2980)

Sean Astin .... Mikey Walsh --IMDb

I get it now!! Thanks, Loopy!

I ended up looking like Scooby Doo's best friend. –Vlad

What does Shaggy have to do with anything??

**is so lost**


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 24, 2005 5:35 pm (#1263 of 2980)

Finn, Shaggy has nothing to do with The Goonies, but I supposedly look like him. When the Scooby Doo movie came out, people made me wear a green T-shirt and go watch the film with them. I was just saying that I understand how he felt when his friends noticed that he was in some way connected to a movie.


Amilia Smith - Oct 24, 2005 5:55 pm (#1264 of 2980)

Thanks for all the well wishes. I have had a lovely weekend without that story hanging over my head any more. Pouring rain, so I spent as much time as possible hiding out in my room reading non-school related books. :-)

Congratulations, Choices!

But you know how it is with some movies -- you keep giving them "another chance" over and over and all you end up doing is taking lots of naps during them?

I have movies like that. Everyone else absolutely loves them, but . . . Titanic was OK, one time around. Haven't been able to make it through since. Never did care for Sleepless in Seatle, and after several attempts I decided it wasn't just because the first time I saw it was the second half of a drive-in double feature. And why-oh-why is Citizen Kane the Greatest Movie of All Time??? On the other hand, there are movies that I absolutely loved, and everyone else I knew thought were incredibly boring. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow comes to mind.

You know something? It is alot easier to type after I cut my fingernails short.



Madam Pince - Oct 24, 2005 7:05 pm (#1265 of 2980)

Ha! I know what you mean, Mills. When my nails were super-long, all my sentences used to end like thisl. I have since learned to really lift my right ring finger when typing the "." instead of dragging it over the "l" and mis-typing. Of course, the nails are shorter now so that helps too!

I'm not that fond of Sleepless In Seattle either! I liked Titanic not for the story, but I just thought the re-creation of the ship itself was incredibly cool-looking, and they did a decent job depicting the sinking, I thought. I'm a history fanatic, so anything like a shipwreck or Mt. Vesuvius or anything that "freezes" a moment in time is fascinating to me. Of course, it was one of the first big-screen appearances for Ioan Gruffudd, too, which makes me like it for that reason alone.

Never seen Citizen Kane or Sky Captain.

So two things on my "To Do" list include visiting Pompeii and seeing Citizen Kane.

Now I'm all confused. I had pictured Squid Mike as looking like Shaggy (except with a long ponytail) and I pictured Used Vlad as looking like... his avatar. Now I don't know what to do! ***spins around waving arms helplessly in air like the robot from Lost In Space***


Finn BV - Oct 24, 2005 7:16 pm (#1266 of 2980)

**joins Madam Pince flailing arms mindlessly**

**is too tired anyway but feels like joining in**

**goes to bed still waving arms**

Good night, everyone.


The giant squid - Oct 24, 2005 11:43 pm (#1267 of 2980)

Anyone who's ever helped out someone wearing [compression hose] will tell you that they are a huge pain in the tuckus.--Madame Pince

Then you're wearing them wrong. Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042

Finn, the main character in Goonies was named Mikey Walsh...one reason why I don't let people call me "Mikey" (the other is those Life Cereal commercials...).

Madame P, You weren't entirely wrong imagining me like Shaggy, though I'm shorter. Although I have never worn (nor will I) orange bellbottoms with a green t-shirt. I have been heard uttering a frightened "Zoinks!" on occasion, though.

(There are entirely too many "though"s in that last paragraph. My apologies to all the English teachers. )

Sam, you'll just have to come to Marie's Colorado Gathering next year so we can compare Shaggy-ness.



kaykay1970 - Oct 25, 2005 4:49 am (#1268 of 2980)

This is not fair! I have no celebrity look-alike. So for now I'll let ya'll think I look like Shania Twain. Ha I wish!

Well, my ex-brother-in-law does look like Billy Ray Cirrus. Too bad he is a major jerk!


Finn BV - Oct 25, 2005 5:05 am (#1269 of 2980)

Finn, the main character in Goonies was named Mikey Walsh...one reason why I don't let people call me "Mikey." –Mikey



azi - Oct 25, 2005 5:51 am (#1270 of 2980)

Goonies, never heard of them. I did spend many an hour watching the Scooby Doo cartoons though. Never liked Scrappy Doo...

I don't have a celebrity look alike either.

Was just popping in to say 'hi' to everyone! I really have to go research my report on soils in the library. Hopefully there won't be sounds of demolition distracting me in the horrible unnatural quietness of the place.

Everyone have a groovy day!


Loopy Lupin - Oct 25, 2005 6:01 am (#1271 of 2980)

Loopy, I'm not sure if you're being facetious or if you really don't know, but anyway.... "compression hose" are those extremely tight stockings that doctors make you wear after you've had certain types of surgery -- Madam Pince

Whoops! I really didn't know, a fact which has never stopped me from being facetious. Curious, I googled the term way too late to kippendo my own post. Sorry to all who've had to endure those post- surgery knee socks in the past, although I do think Mike has a good point about wearing them properly.


Elanor - Oct 25, 2005 6:24 am (#1272 of 2980)

Goonies, that ring a bell indeed, though I don't think I saw it in theatre at that time. The movie that marked me most when I was a kid (the Star Wars trilogy is in a class of its own ) is certainly E.T.. I was 10 when I saw it at the cinema and I remember well that I couldn't stop crying when E.T. was ill. That was great!

I have no celebrity look-alike either, not that I am aware of anyway. As long as no-one tells me I look like E.T... If I had to choose, I would say that I wouldn't mind looking like a famous Audrey: Audrey Hepburn or Audrey Tautou (too bad I don't!).

Have a great day everybody!



kaykay1970 - Oct 25, 2005 6:41 am (#1273 of 2980)

I loved E.T. My brother-in-law (not the above mentioned one) worked in the theater. He brought us 5 times to see E.T. and we had balcony seats! It was way cool! Oh, BTW, that brother-in-law looked like Johnny Depp (the actual actor Johnny Depp, not to be confused with the Edward Scissorhands version of Johnny Depp.)


haymoni - Oct 25, 2005 10:00 am (#1274 of 2980)

Well, the dementors here at work have blocked everything once again.

For some reason, I can get onto World Crossing, but I can't in through the Lexicon. I also can't access anything on TLC or Mugglenet. I think The Quidditch Pitch is still open to me.

If there is anything really juicy out there, let me know!


shepherdess - Oct 25, 2005 10:13 am (#1275 of 2980)

Madam Pince: "..they did a decent job depicting the sinking, I thought."

Except that before the Titanic sank, it broke in two, and each section up-ended and sank separately-the smaller one first, then the larger.


haymoni - Oct 25, 2005 10:17 am (#1276 of 2980)

I just can't watch "Titanic" again because I can't stand to see that mother put her kids back to bed. It's just too much for me!


Esther Rose - Oct 25, 2005 10:20 am (#1277 of 2980)

I can't watch Titanic period. I waited a long time. Very long time to watch it the first time.


Denise P. - Oct 25, 2005 10:25 am (#1278 of 2980)

I think I was the only person on Earth in 1982-1983 who thought ET was a stupid movie. When that special edition came out a few years ago..guess what? I still thought it was a stupid movie. Titanic was okay once but entirely too long. It was not helped by the fact that I am not really a Leonardo fan either.

The weather had turned darn cold here, after lovely 80's last week. We have a nasty chilly wind on top of it. I had been able to take Rhys and Kierynn out for walks but that wind is just too much. It whips up right under the blankets I put on them.

This week is the annual pumpkin carving task. I have 6 that I have to gut, mark and then carve out for kids. Well, maybe only 4. The 12 and 11 year old can help out and maybe carve their own this year.


Puck - Oct 25, 2005 10:28 am (#1279 of 2980)

I loved the Goonies! First movie that made me cry was "Benji". (even at 6, I was a sap.) The movie I heard was great that I can't get through is "Highlander". Currenlty watching "Piglet's Big Movie" for at least the 97th time.

Mandy, glad things worked out, just be careful making deals with a higher power. I made such a deal that if I could just get to see Maya off for her first day of school I'd be willingly to go through labor without pain meds; Natalie came quickly, and I was held to that.

Oh, and a note to all, if you don't have carbon monoxide detector, get one. Mr. Puck never repaired ours when it broke, he never found it necessary, had only gotten it in the first place because I bugged him. Then, last night he went down to the basement and noticed a door on the furnace open, letting the bad air into the house instead of up the chimney. Basement was filling with the deadly gas, which would have moved through the house if he hadn't caught the problem. We open windows despite the cold to air the place out, and now my husband agrees with me that having a working detector is a good idea after all.

Kaykay, such a young girl to go through so much. Cheers to her and your family.

Happy day! Kathy


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 25, 2005 11:01 am (#1280 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

Kathy-Thank God your husband caught the problem before the gas spread to the rest of the house!! How scary! I'm so happy everyone was alright!

As to the discussion of celebrity look-alikes, I personally don't think I have one, but apparently people think I look like Julia Stiles. I don't see it, but oh well.

Anyway, time to run off the check the threads really quick before I have to go to class. Have a great day everyone!



haymoni - Oct 25, 2005 11:12 am (#1281 of 2980)

I watched "Barbie as The Princess & the Pauper" for the zillionth time last night. My only salvation was that my daughter requested COS afterwards. We have to start it after the spiders though.


CatherineHermiona - Oct 25, 2005 11:25 am (#1282 of 2980)

Well, I suppose I don't look like Catherine Zeta-Jones.............. (I don't even know how she looks)

Kaykay, I'm so sorry because of what happened on Sunday. My aunt had a birthday party with her job friends and only few people appeared. I went at her place to help her to eat the food that left. When I came back I saw you came and left twice. I'm so sorry!

Today I had what I call "Tuesday fever". It's called like that because I have it always on Tuesdays. Not because of the subjects, not at all. Just I feel dizzy and I don't want to do anything. I almost fell asleep on Physics. And it's not a boring subject. Luckily we haven't learn nothing new from Chemistry. Today wasn't my day. But you always make my day better.



Madam Pince - Oct 25, 2005 12:46 pm (#1283 of 2980)

I thought Titanic did show the ship breaking in two and sinking in two separate halves? It's been a long time since I've seen it though, so I don't remember all the details. I just thought it was good how they portrayed all the "little things" that you wouldn't necessarily think of, like the people clinging and trying to hold on while the deck tilted and slid them downwards, or the water rushing down the hallways and the lights going out, or the big tall thingys falling over on top of people who were already in the water, and all that. ("Thingys".... I am not an engineer, am I???) I agree with Haymoni, though, about the scene with the mom putting the kids to sleep in the bed -- that tore me up. And the very final scene where all the dead people were welcoming "young-again" Rose back onto the ship was kind of a sniffler, too. (***psssst, Denise, I'm not a Leo fan, either!***looks around furtively***)

Love that word.... furtively, furtively, furtively....

Mr. Pince said Titanic was the saddest movie he ever saw -- he said he wanted to cry when that goofy old woman threw that billion-dollar necklace over the side of the boat!

I'm a sap at movies -- I hardly ever cry in "real life" but just show me Old Yeller or the scene in Saving Private Ryan where the old man says "Tell me I've lived a good life and been a good man," and I'm just a mess.


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 25, 2005 1:11 pm (#1284 of 2980)

Mike, if I do make the CO Gathering, I'll make sure I don't get a haircut or shave before coming. And I also try to only say "Zoinks" when it is absolutely necessary. Of course, I could always just post a picture of myself here, but for one thing I don't know how to, and also, the mere mention of my appearance seems to have caused Madam Pince and Finn to go into hysterics.


Finn BV - Oct 25, 2005 2:28 pm (#1285 of 2980)

**is done being in hysterics**

Hiya, Vlad!

I almost fell asleep on Physics. And it's not a boring subject. –Kate

I agree with all of those statements. But nonetheless I wish I could fall asleep in Physics (aka Science). My teacher who shall remain nameless is well beyond his years… he is the human version of Professor Binns, I'm not joking…

As I recall, Titanic does not depict the ship breaking in two, it has it slowly go down, with the people holding onto the rails around the side, because the boat's nearly at a 90° angle with the water, and then it is slowly mulched up, like a thread not having been written on in 30 days, by the water. Although I suppose I could be wrong and the boat breaks in two just as it looks like all hope is lost… I forget.


Ladybug220 - Oct 25, 2005 2:38 pm (#1286 of 2980)

Hi everyone! I have been lurking again. I hope all is going well and if not, cheering and healing charms out to those who need them.

Time to get back to work...

PS. Actually the movie Titanic does depict the ship breaking into 2 pieces.


The giant squid - Oct 25, 2005 2:38 pm (#1287 of 2980)

Hmmm...I have never watched Titanic, no do I plan to. I know how it ends, so the only reason would be for the added-in love story, which I have no interest in.

Wanna know how much of a geek I am? The first movie I cried at was Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan when Spock died. Hey, I was 10... As for E.T., I liked it, but I don't think it's the Milestone of American Cinema everyone makes it out to be. And what's with the walkie-talkies? Yeesh...

Finn, while I'm shocked that you would want to fall asleep in science class, my condolences for having to deal with "Binns". I had a Physics instructor in college who would come in, write all the notes on the board and then sit down at his desk and start reading--I think he might have said two words the whole semester. His tests were 4 questions, 25 points each; get one part wrong, the whole thing's wrong. Let's just say it's a sad commentary on his teaching when the Physics major flunks Physics...



timrew - Oct 25, 2005 3:43 pm (#1288 of 2980)

Denise P:- I think I was the only person on Earth in 1982-1983 who thought ET was a stupid movie.

No, me too, Denise. I usually love science fiction movies, Close Encounters, Star Wars (well, the first three, anyway); but ET left me stone cold. I've watched it once, and that was enough.


Catherine - Oct 25, 2005 3:51 pm (#1289 of 2980)

Let's just say it's a sad commentary on his teaching when the Physics major flunks Physics... --Squid Mike (who isn't Mikey)

I agree, although at my college the M.O. was to give all the prospective majors a huge kick in the rear end in every class they take from day one until spring term sophomore year. It was like the sun finally comes out and shines upon you, and then you realize that you are not a complete idiot after all, just a partial idiot.

Mr. Catherine, who has enjoyed a nice career as an Organic chemist, once fancied majoring in English at our mutual college. He says, without irony now, "I finally picked something easier, like chemistry." It seems that several semesters of "C's" made allowed the inner scientist to bloom unfettered.

Meanwhile, I had science teachers at the college saying, "Please promise us that you will NEVER major in our subject...."


Denise P. - Oct 25, 2005 4:05 pm (#1290 of 2980)

What?? Spock DIED?!

Heh, Mike, don't feel badly. I still choke up over that scene. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." "Or the one." And I was a mite older than 12 at the time.


Stephanie M. - Oct 25, 2005 4:29 pm (#1291 of 2980)

LOL, Finn!

I had "the teacher who shall remain nameless" in 6th grade for science. He really does drone on... and on... and on... I really didn't like having him as a teacher, when I had him, but now I love him. He is one of those people who make up jokes that are really not funny and they don't make sense. Now, some of my friends and I who had him keep telling each other those pointless, unfunny jokes and they actually are funny because we remember them, and how unfunny they were. If that makes any sense whatsoever. It's kind of hard to explain...

He gave us 3 huge questions for the tests. They were 33 points each and 1 point for your name. And if you didn't write your name you would get a zero. When he would give our tests back he always said things like this: " (Person's name), you didn't do very well on this test. You better try harder next time." (And he only said that if that person failed) He also said, "(Person's Name), go tell your mom to take you to Ben & Jerry's tonight [for an ice cream]." And that person would have gotten a 100%.

I really liked Titanic . I thought it was a really good movie, but I tend to like movies like that. Plus, I have always been a Leonardo DiCaprio fan.

Well, I'm off to have dinner.


Amilia Smith - Oct 25, 2005 6:27 pm (#1292 of 2980)

Kate, a while back you asked about books on the French Revolution. I don't know if you were looking for more History Books or novels, but if you want novels, a couple of my favorites are The Scarlet Pimpernel and A Tale of Two Cities. Just remember that they are novels, and take liberties with history . . . especially Baroness Orczy in Pimpernel. And be warned that A Tale of Two Cities is very much Dickens . . . very wordy. I don't know if either of these has been translated into Croatian (I would be surprised if Dickens hasn't been), but they are available on-line from Project Gutenberg in English.



I Am Used Vlad - Oct 25, 2005 6:53 pm (#1293 of 2980)

Finn, sorry to hear about the boring teacher.

When I had Physics in high school, one of my friends and I spent most of the time making up funny problems in which, say, a man would roller skate off a cliff and land on a trampoline, only to be launched over snake pits, cacti, lava and other things one wouldn't want to land on. Sometimes, our teacher would solve the problems on the board. If only we had applied ourselves.

I have never been a big fan of E.T., Titanic or Citizen Kane


Viola Intonada - Oct 25, 2005 6:58 pm (#1294 of 2980)

I'm such a sap when it comes to movies. I watched "Old Yeller" as a child, I couldn't even look at the book title in the library. I haven't seen the movie since, and never plan to.

The movie I can't seem to stay awake no matter how hard I try is "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy." I've tried to watch it 5 times and haven't seen it straight through yet. (It's one of my favorite books)

We are getting closer to the release of GoF. If you are in the Cleveland area, please email me so that we can start making plans. I've noticed several movie theaters are already having advanced ticket sales. (My email address is in my profile)


Finn BV - Oct 25, 2005 7:01 pm (#1295 of 2980)

Finn, while I'm shocked that you would want to fall asleep in science class, my condolences for having to deal with "Binns". –Mike

He alone is just one of the things I have to put up with.

He is one of those people who make up jokes that are really not funny and they don't make sense. –Steph

This deserves its own category. There are way too many. Tell me if any of you get it. It might be a little weird doing it on paper, because the joke is meant to be said. I'm sure the Physics major (whether he flunked or not) will get it:
College kids are choosing their courses. The instructor says, "Will all students taking Physics please take your papers and follow me."

Surprisingly, that is the end of the joke. (I'm laughing right now thinking about how stupid it is! ) The key to the answer is that "fizzics," pronounced like "physics," is an old fashioned term either for a bowel movement, or some medicine to produce bowel movements. The joke is that he leads them to the bathroom. In the words of Mr. Wood (whoops, I said it), "Cool, huh?" or "Weird, huh?" or "Can you dig that?" (I hate it when people who would never normally say these things, do! It really bugs me!)

Thanks, Ladybug. I guess I'll have to go watch it.

I liked E.T., but not when it came out. Then again, I didn't like anything in the 80s. Then again, I wasn't around in the 80s, so who am I to speak?

Edit: (I had to use that highlighting thingy!) One of my friends and I spent most of the time making up funny problems in which, say, a man would roller skate off a cliff and land on a trampoline, only to be launched over snake pits, cacti, lava and other things one wouldn't want to land on. Sometimes, our teacher would solve the problems on the board. If only we had applied ourselves. –Vlad

Ah, the price we have to pay.


Madam Pince - Oct 25, 2005 7:13 pm (#1296 of 2980)

OK, I have a rant about The Amazing Race episode which just ended -- probably only Denise will appreciate it, but anyway... I'm whiting it out: I can't believe she actually said "We all have charm, wit, and beauty" !!!!! What a shame she forgot HUMILITY!!!! Ack! And to think it was a non-elimination leg! It is to weep. OK, /rant.

Another random observation -- why is it that when the weather is lovely, the dog only has to go outside maybe twice all day; but when it is rainy and yucky and muddy, then the dog demands to go out what seems to be at least every half hour??? Aargh... I'm running out of towels....


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 25, 2005 7:26 pm (#1297 of 2980)

I actually like that joke. Perhaps I should say that I dig it.

Also, in defense of my friend, he is now a computer engineer, so he did manage to apply himself at some point.


kaykay1970 - Oct 25, 2005 7:45 pm (#1298 of 2980)

My kids get home from school today. Child #1 says "Can I use the internet, I have a report due on Friday?" I say "Of course child #1." Child #2 says "I need the internet worse, I have a 3 page research paper due tomorrow." I ask Child 2 how much of this paper he has finished. He says I he hasn't started it yet. I ask him if they gave him only 1 day to do a 3 page paper. He has had 2 weeks. So I ask him how he expects to do this thing in one day. Child #2 then tells me that it is easier for HIS generation to do a 3 page report than it was for MY generation. He says all he has to do is cut and paste from the internet. I tell him I may be old but even I know what plagiarism means. Anyway, now he does not comprehend why I made him do his entire report handwritten the way MY generation did. He is also grounded for 2 weeks, exactly how long he had to do the paper.

Since I got that out of the way now I will brag on my eldest. She started memorizing her poem on Thursday. She recited it perfectly today (they didn't have time yesterday.) Anyway, her teacher who never gives a grade higher than a 99, (she says in drama there is always room for improvement)gave my daughter a 105. Then she asked her to come back 6th period to recite for that class.


Madam Pince - Oct 25, 2005 8:35 pm (#1299 of 2980)

***Applauds kaykay for her parenting skills***

Whoo-hoo to kaykay's daughter!

***Feels very sorry for Finn and Stephanie for having to endure that teacher***


Stephanie M. - Oct 25, 2005 8:57 pm (#1300 of 2980)

See Finn, I told you it wasn't that bad having him! You start to laugh about it afterwards! LOL.

I hated E.T. when I first saw it. I was terrified of the movie! I thought E.T. was a real alien! I haven't seen it a a few years because I refused to see it again... I think I'll go rent it one weekend when I have some extra time to spare.

Good job Kaykay! On all of your parenting skills. That's great about your daughter! Good work.
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Lina - Oct 25, 2005 11:09 pm (#1301 of 2980)

Oh, Kaykay, thank you! That's exactly the reason why Kate was grounded, although I find it funny to use this word since she was allowed to go to the fresh air, just not to the Internet. They had one week to do the assignment, and she decided to do it the last day, but not just her assignment, it was her assignment plus several assignments of her friends!!! And it happened two days in a row - two reports for two different subjects and each for several friends - different titles! Actually, the only report that she did completely the copy from the Internet/paste thing, was commended from the teacher as the most ORIGINAL report! That teacher seems not to have an Internet connection at home.


Marè - Oct 26, 2005 12:16 am (#1302 of 2980)

Wow, I knew the universities had problems with scientific papers being copied from all over the internet, but schoolkids too? tsssk.
The good thing is, they seem to be developing some new(er) software to deal with these kind of things...

Kaykay please tell child #2 from me that the more you get used to doing things at the last minute, the stressier it gets because as you get older you get more things that can't be finished in a minute.
I should know, I'm always past my deadlines... :sigh & rolleyes-at-myself:


Lina - Oct 26, 2005 1:15 am (#1303 of 2980)

There was a student at our faculty that copied something from the Internet for the paper she had to do for some exam. And then the "Word" gave her the "Illegal operation!" message and closed down. Her comment was: "Wow, the computer knows that what I'm doing is illegal!"


CatherineHermiona - Oct 26, 2005 1:43 am (#1304 of 2980)

Mum, at all, that's Law College computer!

Amilia, A Tale of Two Cities is exactly the main thing that made me interested to French Revolution. My mother went to the library and borrowed that book for me without me knowing it (well, I told her to borrow something for me). I bet it is one of the shortest Charles Dickens book (hem..... Oliver Twist ........ hem). It was really interesting.

Finn, I totally understand you. I have very similar teacher from Geography and History. Well, I won't lie, her stories are sometimes interesting. I listened to her when she was talking about French revolution. She said a lot of interesting things that don't write in book. I guess that can't happened to you, science is not a subject in which someone can tell interesting stories.



The giant squid - Oct 26, 2005 2:20 am (#1305 of 2980)

Catherine: Well, I guess I should have toughed it out, then. I dropped out of college halfway through my sophomore year. I felt it was more important to be able to earn money...I've grown very fond of this "eating" thing and found it hard to give up.

Kaykay, I commend you on trying to teach your children how to so things for themselves. I like to say, "you have to know the rules before you can break the rules." A corollary of this would be that they have to prove they can write their own paper before they can take shortcuts. It's all gone downhill since they allowed calculators in math class...

Yes, I’ve gotten to the "when I was your age" stage of my life. I really hope my peers weren't as stupid at 16 as the kids I see at the theater everyday.



Good Evans - Oct 26, 2005 5:47 am (#1306 of 2980)

I hope you enjoy reading up on the French Revolution kate, it is one of my favourite bits of History (Napoleanic era being my absolute favourite part, just afterwards). I studied both for A level History and loved it.

As for weird teachers - yep I've had a few - the weirdest was a sociology teacher who used to tell us bad jokes at the end of the period. I recall several were plays on words - "pardon me boy, is that the cat who chewed your new shoes" (chatanooga choo choo), hans that do dishes ... something about a mild green hairy lip squid (mild green fairy liquid) and something about POI, but he was bizarre. Still teaching I hear .

Kaykay and Lina - well done you - our eldest has just finished a period of being grounded - not for copying and pasting on Internet- as we stopped that happening before it started, but getting somewhat the better or the worse for the Alcohol at a party a few weeks ago - absolutely bombed at 1.00 in the morning I didn't need phone calls from his friend to advise us of the situation (he wasn't staying with us that night, he was sleeping at his Mum's) thankfully he came to no harm - just very sick !!! He is 16 and has been reminded this is not the legal age (it's 18 here). He hasnt touched a drop since (we allow a beer or glass of wine on the weekend at home in the hope it would give him some respect for Alcohol - oh well that failed - back to parenting class!! - kaykay - I'm on my way round!)


Marie E. - Oct 26, 2005 5:53 am (#1307 of 2980)

Psst...the giant squid cried during ET too. I remember this because I got in trouble for laughing at him. It came out in 82, right? So he was only ten. I don't remember crying much at movies back then, but I bawl like a baby now. I barely made it through Emma Thompson's Wit.

I had a Spanish teacher my junior year who went insane. Good times. He let us watch Spanish soap operas and would often forget which part of the textbook we were in. Once a week he would shut off the lights and play relaxation tapes with subliminal messages about Spanish. This time of day was known to me fondly as "naptime".


Puck - Oct 26, 2005 6:15 am (#1308 of 2980)

My high school physics teacher was an ecology major and clueless about physics. I made it to the chapter on vectors around the holidays, after that I was hopelessly lost, and he unable to explain it to me. Strange, because I still averaged an "A" for the year. We did have cool projects, like mail a potato chip (aka crisp) to yourself, or build a car from a mouse trap, using the spring for power. Once we convince him to let us drop a super ball out the 3rd floor window to see how it bounced half as high each time.

Chemyst, I found it frightening that the other family was seriously going to let that little girl bungy jump!

Kaykay, I find it amusing that your child actually TOLD you about plans to copy and paste.

Kids coming home drunk? Guess I should start lectures about alcohol. My 5 year old already knows that if you smoke you get sick and die, and if Mom catches you (which she will) the penalty is even worse.

Oops, I need to go get ready. I have post baby check-up today. Been 6 weeks already! Running a bit late, as I woke up about 20 minutes before school bus was due to arrive. I got him out with time to spare!



kaykay1970 - Oct 26, 2005 7:23 am (#1309 of 2980)

Puck Mr. Cut-N-Paste did that mouse-trap car project for Innovations and Inventions class. Next term they are making a catapult that should to have enough power to send an egg over a 3" high wall.

I still don't understand why this child put off his report until the last minute. He was out of school for fall break an entire week.

I had the most boring teacher when I was in school. He had a very deep monotone voice. He always wrote notes on the blackboard (remember those pre-dry erase marker days) for the entire period. If we were lucky his lesson would remind him of some story from his past and we could put down our pencils the rest of the hour.


azi - Oct 26, 2005 10:11 am (#1310 of 2980)

Ah, but doing work in good time seems such a waste of time. You always have the day before...yes, I have bad habits. I didn't start my soil report yesterday and it's due in on Friday, with 2 full days of lectures coming up. It was set last Friday. I am absolutely scared of accidently plagiarizing something without realising. That puts me off writing the report. I'm not sure what to put in it, so I put it off. Excuses, excuses...

Alcohol at 16...the worst I ever experienced with drunken teenagers was a girl, who, when I arrived at the party at 7pm, was falling in and out of conciousness and being sick. The drunken idiots who claimed to be her friends had laid her out on her back. Needless to say, I and a friend yelled them, made sure she was laid properly and got out of there as soon as we could. I was not impressed with the behaviour of those people (hence why I've cut contact with most of them...). Drinking at 16 seems pefectly normal, really. Didn't a report say the average kid in the UK starts drinking at 13? Maybe it was 14.

Science teachers vary from being brilliant jelly-baby exploders to boring out-of-touch people in my experience. Same with most subjects.


Elanor - Oct 26, 2005 10:17 am (#1311 of 2980)

LOL Marie! I knew I couldn't have been the only one to cry while seeing E.T.! And, yes it was in 1982 indeed. When I saw it again, years later, I found it nice and moving, maybe because I was remembering how I sobbed my heart out for it when I was 10. It is not my favourite Spielberg film at all but I still have a fondness for it.

I found Titanic far too long when I saw it: some things are good in it but, IMO, the love story is unconvincing and it takes ages before that boat starts to sink!

Kate, if you like French history and novels, you should try reading "The three Musketeers", by Alexandre Dumas, that takes place in the 17th century (Dumas plays a lot with the real history but he knows how to re-create the atmosphere of a period).

Weird teachers... I had some too but professional solidarity prevents me to tell more...

Have a great day everybody!


Loopy Lupin - Oct 26, 2005 10:52 am (#1312 of 2980)

I have never been a big fan of E.T., Titanic or Citizen Kane – Vlad

I can't say that I really am either. E.T. is really one of those movies that "you had to be there." What I mean is that at the time, it was quite touching, moving even. It even had a little "geek chic" thrown in as the kids were playing Dungeons and Dragons in that early kitchen scene. I remember people who were adamant that you just had to see it. The tv show Taxi even had a gag on that phenomenon with the Jim Ignotowski character recruiting people to go see the movie. Now, it seems kind of sappy and quite dated. I went to see Titantic to learn what all the fuss was about. I saw it once and that was enough. Citizen Kane was fun to discuss in film class, but somehow I never remember to rent it. A lot of "classic" or "important" films are like that for me: boring.


CatherineHermiona - Oct 26, 2005 10:53 am (#1313 of 2980)

I don't see what's so wrong about "Copy-Paste" thing. You copy, you paste, you enlarge letters, put some pictures, give your expression, of course, and you read it and learn it. And here you go, you have 10 pages report.

Elanor, I heard about three Musketeers. Not about book, about expression. I'll look for it.

Wait, I cried on E.T. too. Only movie I ever cried on. Every time, on and on. We watched it in school once and I tried not to cry, with hardly any success.

It's all gone down when they allowed calculators on maths. - Mike

Wait, they allowed calculators on maths!? When, when?! We are allowed to take calculators only to Physics! I have to show this to my maths professor. About my maths professor, he always makes jokes with us, real jokes. And he says we are his best class and he always gives us less homework. But he said he has to start practicing on being stricter.

I'm in the chat room. Kate


Loopy Lupin - Oct 26, 2005 12:57 pm (#1314 of 2980)

I don't see what's so wrong about "Copy-Paste" thing. You copy, you paste, you enlarge letters, put some pictures, give your expression, of course, and you read it and learn it. And here you go, you have 10 pages report.—CatherineHermiona

Well, if you give credit to the source that you are "pasting" from, there is nothing wrong with it. If you are giving the impression that the words you've pasted are your own, you've committed plagiarisim. To wit:


n 1: a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work 2: the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own [syn: plagiarization, plagiarisation, piracy]

from Dictionary.com


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 26, 2005 1:15 pm (#1315 of 2980)

Marie, one of the kids in my neighborhood cried at E.T. and he never lived it down. If he is now in therapy or has a substance abuse problem, it could probably be traced back to that incident.

Loopy, I can't say that I didn't like E.T. This is probably a bad time to bring this up, but I do like the part where E.T. and Eliot get drunk. Overall, I just don't think it was one of Spielberg's better movies. It is, however, better than Hook.

Titanic I just never got. It bothers me to live in a world where that is the highest grossing movie of all time, and when The Phantom Menace came out, I did my best to help it reach the top spot. My efforts, obviously, failed. I blame Jake Lloyd.

I agree with you about Citizen Kane. I don't care about camera angles. I just want to be entertained.


haymoni - Oct 26, 2005 1:41 pm (#1316 of 2980)

Loopy - I suddenly saw Les Nessman from "WKRP" swimming before my eyes.


T Brightwater - Oct 26, 2005 1:57 pm (#1317 of 2980)

kaykay, if it weren't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done...at least not around here! :-)


Loopy Lupin - Oct 26, 2005 2:03 pm (#1318 of 2980)

I agree with you about Citizen Kane. I don't care about camera angles. I just want to be entertained. – Vlad

Oooh, and the deep focus. Don't forget the deep focus!


Catherine - Oct 26, 2005 2:41 pm (#1319 of 2980)

Catherine: Well, I guess I should have toughed it out, then. I dropped out of college halfway through my sophomore year. I felt it was more important to be able to earn money...I've grown very fond of this "eating" thing and found it hard to give up. –Mike

Oh, dear. I certainly did not mean to imply that you couldn't tough it out. I simply meant that some professors like to cut people down at the knees as a regular activity. I had some such teachers (cough* Economics *cough and *cough* Biology Laboratory *cough) where you could hear the whistle of the machete right as you walked through the door. I made the joke about certain English profs that you should just bring a tourniquet to class if you were picking up paper, in order to stop the torrential "bleeding" of red ink.

On the topic of cutting, (and pasting), I gave "my" 7th graders a huge lecture on academic honesty and the differences between quoting, summarizing, and giving credit for ideas not your own, even if the words are your own. Many of them seemed confused that one cannot just read a report verbatim from the internet and call that "research."

(Oh, and Mike, you might like to know that I had to sub for the Physics teacher today. EEK! The students were explaining friction and Newtonian theories and I was just nodding my head and saying, "So, you guys are good to go on this experiment, right? I'll just watch in awe.")


Ladybug220 - Oct 26, 2005 2:55 pm (#1320 of 2980) Reply
Edited by Oct 26, 2005 3:13 pm

Kate, sorry to harp on this subject after several good response but it is very important not to plagiarize. When I was in graduate school, we got several lectures from very angry professors about plagiarism. At that level, people should know better, but some were stupid enough to try it anyway and were expelled from the school. Many schools have honor codes and require students to sign an agreement to hold themselves and others to that honor code.

As for the ET discussion, I got nightmares from it. I was fine while watching the movie but later on, it just wasn't good. I have not seen it since then and I have no desire to at all.


Chemyst - Oct 26, 2005 4:08 pm (#1321 of 2980)

At the risk of sounding like an ethics cop, I am going to make this simple enough for a three-year-old to understand: Stealing is wrong. Lying is wrong. Plagiarism is wrong because it is a combination of stealing and lying. A plagiarist steals someone else's work and falsely presents it as his/her own.


Madam Pince - Oct 26, 2005 4:49 pm (#1322 of 2980)

I can definitely empathize with the "last minute" crowd. I was lucky enough to be a fairly good writer when I was in school, and usually when I wrote something, I wrote it once and that was it. I didn't comprehend the whole "second draft" and "third draft" thing. I thought if you got it right the first time, then what's the point in re-doing it? I had one class where the professor required us to turn in two "pre-" drafts, and I really had trouble with that. I actually wrote the paper, then went back and "messed it up" to make the two "pre-" drafts to hand in. What a total waste of time (and paper.)

It carried over into my work career, too. When I had to do year-end evaluations of my team, my supervisor wanted me to start working on them in October. I would just look at him and go "Ummmm...OK." Then he asked at the beginning of November if I had them done yet, and he blew a gasket when I confessed that I hadn't actually started yet. I was all "So what's the problem?" and I did all my evaluations in something like two days, and handed them in to him to review. It was funny because he was frustrated that they didn't need revisions - I just asked him innocently if he had anything he wanted to add or change, and he said "No.... and by the way, how do you DO that?" So, it's kind of fun, but in general I guess it's not a good idea, because it doesn't allow for emergencies that may come up and mess up your plans or whatever....

haymoni, thanks for the mental image of Les Nessman! He was the best! ***giggles***


Julie Aronson - Oct 26, 2005 5:02 pm (#1323 of 2980)


Wit always gets me, too. I can't help sobbing like a fool.

The first movie that made me cry was "Snoopy, Come Home." I think I was 5 or 6, and I went with my mom, my aunt and my cousin. I still think it's a pretty good movie, all things considered.



I Am Used Vlad - Oct 26, 2005 5:41 pm (#1324 of 2980)

Oooh, and the deep focus. Don't forget the deep focus! Loopy

We shouldn't forget the fragmented, non-linear narration, either.

I was glancing at the paper today at lunch and saw a list of the top 25 movies of all time according to some group of British "experts." They had Goodfellas as number one. I mainly scanned the list to see if any movie involved in our feud made the cut. Sunset Boulevard came in at 25, but I don't count that as a "real" Keaton film. Playing a has-been actor who spends his time playing Bridge wasn't exactly a stretch. It goes to show you what the experts know.


kaykay1970 - Oct 26, 2005 6:32 pm (#1325 of 2980)

Ok. Quick question. My kids school is having drug free awareness week. They dress up each day. Put a cap on drug day they wore caps. Tomorrow is sock it to drugs day. They are supposed to wear silly socks. Ok I have a pair of solid red baseball socks and a pair of green(if I can find them.) I can mix-match the socks. I have Harry Potter stickers. I need to know because I don't have my book. Which color sock do the golden snitches go on?


Finn BV - Oct 26, 2005 6:37 pm (#1326 of 2980)

I actually like that joke. Perhaps I should say that I dig it. –Vlad

Cool, huh? That's funky.

Kaykay, if you ever have another child, please come up with an interesting name. "Child #1" is exceptionally boring, whether you like it or not. Good job, though, I like that story even more from a kid's perspective! Congrats to your daughter, too.

science is not a subject in which someone can tell interesting stories –Kate

Unless, they are completely unrelated to the topic, which is exactly what most of his stories are.

Julie (good evans), hope your son's feeling better, despite the cause! I'm waiting till my 21st birthday, naturally… No, I'm not joking, unless I happen to be in Canada or the UK or something, where it is 18, but I'm not one to go underage drinking. Those Life Skills classes actually say something to me.

Once a week he would shut off the lights and play relaxation tapes with subliminal messages about Spanish. –Marie

**makes mental note to casually mention this to any boring teacher**

like mail a potato chip (aka crisp) to yourself –Kathy

What does that have to do with anything? This relates to Physics? I wish Mr. Wood would (haha!) assign homework like that!

By the way, I don't mean to imply I've never had good science teachers… in fact, I have loved all of my Middle School science teachers up to now, and I still like Mr. Wood, he's just really boring (he sure beats a mean teacher!). And I liked two of my three Lower School science teachers. Ironically, the one I didn't like that much (he was okay, he just gave me my first A– on a report card. Yes, I know, story for another time. He called me a smart alec.), was named Mr. Gross. Kaykay, I have no idea about the socks. Sorry!


Marie E. - Oct 26, 2005 6:43 pm (#1327 of 2980)

Julie, it was a quite a while after seeing Wit that I could read Runaway Bunny to my kids again.

I hope my brother's not mad that I "outed" him on the crying. If it makes him feel better I cry at ET now, too.

I'm getting a little worried about my little girl Lexie. We had her at the doctor's office two weeks ago for croup. The cough came back after her prescription of steroids ran out so I took her back last Friday. They said that the croup was just taking a while to go away and I should see a gradual decrease in her coughing. Well, I've seen a gradual increase in her coughing. It woke her up last night. A friend who works in the medical field listened to her with a stethoscope and said her lungs are clear but the croup is still there. She gave Lexie a nebulizer treatment. Here's my question: Should I take her back to the doctor, or am I just being a paranoid mommy? My girls have had croup before and it's never taken this long to recover, though the doctor said it can happen.

If you read all that, thank you.


Eponine - Oct 26, 2005 6:49 pm (#1328 of 2980)

Madame Pince, that's basically how I wrote all of my papers in school.

When I was student teaching, I had several students plagiarize a paper. I had three students turn in the exact same paper, one had a line in his paper that said "(see published history)" when there was definitely NOT a section in his paper called 'published history.' There were a couple other obvious plagiarism giveaways. All of those students got their papers back with the internet printout stapled to the back with a big, fat zero on the front. They got the oppotunity to make it up, but only because the teacher insisted.

I was lucky enough to have some very good teachers in high school, but I did have a couple that I didn't enjoy. One of my history teachers was also the basketball coach, and he didn't really like cheerleaders that much. He would treat us horribly while letting his basketball players get away with anything. He's the only teacher I was ever rude to.

Today, I was filling in at the circulation desk for an hour and this little boy came up and asked if we had a copy of HBP in the building. I found him one and asked if he'd read it yet. He said that he was getting the book for CHRISTMAS so he hadn't read it, but he wanted to read a couple of chapters. I had to bite my tongue.

I hope everyone is having a great day!


kaykay1970 - Oct 26, 2005 7:04 pm (#1329 of 2980)

Ok Finn from now on when Child #2 does something frustrating I shall refer to him as He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

Marie I would probably take her back if she doesn't improve. I hope she feels better soon!


Madam Pince - Oct 26, 2005 7:17 pm (#1330 of 2980)

I don't know about the socks, either, kay. Sorry!

Marie, I think I would take her back to the doctor, but then again I am a definite paranoid mommy since I only have the one kid.

On the plagiarism -- I think this was in second grade so we called it "copying" rather than by the proper name, but anyways.... one girl in my class copied the paper of the girl sitting next to her. The dead giveaway was that she also put the other girl's name at the top of the paper. Not the brightest crayon in the box.


Finn BV - Oct 26, 2005 7:25 pm (#1331 of 2980)

The dead giveaway was that she also put the other girl's name at the top of the paper.

Oh, dear. Hope she didn't repeat the course. (**thinks of Burris Ewell and To Kill a Mockingbird which we are reading in school **)

Marie, I have no medical knowledge whatsoever (not even on coughing), so I'll trust the other members to help you out.


Amilia Smith - Oct 26, 2005 7:26 pm (#1332 of 2980)

The only thing I can remember about seeing ET for the first time was that I had gotten a shot that day.

I could never understand the point of rough drafts either. Or outlines. I will now occasionally do a rough outline, listing points I want to make to make sure I don't forget them, but nothing like the formal outlines they made us learn to do.

Azi, I wouldn't worry too much about accidentally plagerizing. Just use LOTS of footnotes. Even when you are not quoting exactly. Besides keeping you honest, footnotes look impressive. :-)

I've always lucked out with really good teachers. But here's a story for you. One of my little brother's Junior High science teachers told the class that the windmills in the Netherlands blow the water off the land and back into the ocean. No kidding. My brother thought it was a joke and started laughing. The teacher was very defensive, and insisted that, no, it was true, she had seen a special about it on TV. And now my baby sister has inherited this particular teacher. . . .



Stephanie M. - Oct 26, 2005 7:56 pm (#1333 of 2980)

Ironically, the one I didn't like that much (he was okay, he just gave me my first A– on a report card. Yes, I know, story for another time. He called me a smart alec.), was named Mr. Gross.—Finn

I loved Mr. Gross! He was my homeroom teacher. He always called me Alex (my sister's name) though. We helped him come up with names for his baby. She was named Samantha Lily Gross. Great middle name if you ask me. (Sorry, I really wanted to tie that to universe of Harry Potter.)

Well, I'm off to go to sleep. Have a good night everyone!


T Brightwater - Oct 26, 2005 8:12 pm (#1334 of 2980)

kaykay, the left sock was red with broomsticks; the right sock was green with Snitches. (don't ask me how one distinguishes between left and right socks, unless they were toe socks.)

Madame Pince, regrading your abilities to produced finished writing in very little time, your boss is merely jealous. What equally irks and awes my fellow ensemble members is that I can talk to an audience for any required length of time in a concert without notes and without losing my concentration for playing. One of them won't open his mouth on stage without having every word written down, even if it's only a couple of sentences.


Ydnam96 - Oct 26, 2005 10:59 pm (#1335 of 2980)

Hey all....

Just popping in to say hi. I'm afraid I have moved to lurker status for a while...I actually have guilt for not actually reading other threads and responding/being a part of the conversations...but I just don't seem to have the energy right now...I've really only been reading this thread. Life has been so exhausting lately!! Guess that happens as you grow up huh?

So, just sayin hi.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 26, 2005 11:23 pm (#1336 of 2980)

**thinks of Burris Ewell and To Kill a Mockingbird which we are reading in school **-Finn

Oh Finn!!! I loved that book! We read it my freshman year of high school, and to this day it remains one of my favorites!! You'll have to let me know what you think of it! (And Stephanie too if you're reading it as well!!)

I have a confession to make everyone: I have never seen E.T. in it's entirety! **runs and hides**

Mills, I too, could never understand the point of outlines or rough drafts! While I understand why KayKay and Lina grounded their kids for waiting until the last minute, I must admit, I do it quite regularly now! I admit, it's caused some problems for me in the past, but I still do it.

Viola, I sent you an e-mail about going to see GoF in Cleveland. I think that would be fun!

I love reading everyone's stories about their teachers! I, thank God, was blessed with awesome teachers throughout high school. In fact, my only complaint is about my history teacher from my sophomore year. He wasn't even a boring teacher, just a bad one. He was the assistant football coach and knew very little about history. My other history teachers were amazing though. In fact, they are the reason(s) I want to be a high school history teacher!

So I have a small Aaron update. I finally got up the nerve to tell him how I feel about him, and it turns out that he feels the same way. So I'm really excited about that and just had to let everyone know!!!

Anyway, I hope everyone had a great day. It's almost 2:30 am here, but I'll be in the chat room for a bit longer probably. I'm quite the insomniac these days! But for now I'm headed to the threads!



Julie Aronson - Oct 27, 2005 12:04 am (#1337 of 2980)

Marie, I'm no expert on kids (I have none) but I'd definitely take her back to the doctor.

Jenn, congrats on Aaron!!! It's really exciting when you put yourself out there like that and have it returned! Also, I hope to go to the Neohio GoF viewing, so I look forward to meeting you!

Oy, so many exclmation points!!!



The giant squid - Oct 27, 2005 12:14 am (#1338 of 2980)

Well, I was gonna "out" Marie on crying during E.T., too, but she did it herself. So I'll just say

The worst thing about my college Physics professor is that my high school Physics teacher was actually really good. He was the kind of guy who loved (loves, actually, he's still teaching--they won't let him retire ) teaching, allowing young minds to soak up information. After that, anyone would be a letdown.

Catherine, you didn't imply anything. I really couldn't tough it out; at one point I actually asked myself, "What does a physicist do?" and didn't have an answer. All I could do was picture myself wearing a whilte lab coat and doing...something? That made it easier to drop out when the financial thing reared it's ugly head. I still get a twinge every once and a while--when you mentioned friction & Newtonian physics I nodded knowingly...

Marie, take her back to the doctor and keep doing it until she gets well. We expect 100% satisfaction from the cashier at McDonald's, why shouldn't we get the same from the doctor who, let's face it, charges a lot more for his services?

no longer cries during E.T. but still gets misty at the end of Dead Poet's Society.


Elanor - Oct 27, 2005 1:06 am (#1339 of 2980)

Mike: "no longer cries during E.T. but still gets misty at the end of Dead Poet's Society."

That was a moving one indeed! I loved it so much then. It was in 1989, wasn't it? Sometimes, I feel I was very lucky: I was 10 when E.T. came out, 17 for Dead Poets Society, it was the perfect moment for seeing them! **thinking I am even more lucky never to have really grown up from that time **

Which reminds me a good story about cheating:   My brother hated school and it was a nightmare to make him do his homework. He had then found out the best way of doing it without working: he was badgering me till I agreed to help him, that is to say to do it for him... He had gone to see "Dead Poets Society" with school, had to write an essay about it and I ended up writing it which, for once, I loved doing because I had a lot to say about that movie and no teacher had had the idea to ask us to do that! Some days later, the teacher gave him his essay back with that written on it: "Excellent. But it would have been even better if you had written it yourself". So, he had to re-write it himself and the teacher made sure he would write the next ones too...

Anyway, as a teacher, I keep telling the kids that cheating doesn't pay, nor does giving the right answers to a friend, that I prefer to see wrong answers which will show me they didn't understand instead of marking the same answers twice... But it is not easy, even if the kids are 6 or 7! I asked one of them some days ago why it wasn't a good idea to copy from his neighbour and all that he answered me was: "because I'm not sure he has the right answers!"
And they don't use the internet already...

Jenn, I'm really happy for you!

Edit: happy birthday Troels!!!!


Troels Forchhammer - Oct 27, 2005 1:14 am (#1340 of 2980)

Wonderful story, Elanor

I remember when I was on my first job as a substitute teacher, I was correcting some exercises, and it turned out that this guy had been a bit sloppy with his figures, so that his figure ‘6’ looked very much like a ‘0’ in the last bit of math, but since it was the result of something like 2.62 - 1.00 = 1.62 where only the last ‘6’ was sloppy, I didn't take him down for it.

But the other seven guys who had copied his work without noticing that they were faithfully written ‘2.62 - 1.00 = 1.62’ — well, they didn't get very good marks that day (but the rest of the class laughed like mad when I went through the exercise, commenting extensively all the way )


P.S. As of today I am 30 — in tridecimal notation, that is ...


CatherineHermiona - Oct 27, 2005 1:50 am (#1341 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finn, you were called Smart Alec? We are having the same character in my English book, Project 3. ***sitting in front of computer laughing: "Pametnjakoviæ, pametnjakoviæ.........."*** Are you really that way?

And what if you are taking material for your report from some pages made for that? Like wikipedia or so? You move to complicated expressions and give some of your words. If you are making mere facts that how to make them your words. That are mere facts and there is only one way to tell it. At the end, of course, I always give my expression.



Stephanie M. - Oct 27, 2005 4:20 am (#1342 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels!!! I hope you have a great 30th birthday! I wish you many, many more!


kaykay1970 - Oct 27, 2005 5:06 am (#1343 of 2980)

Thanks T Brightwater, I could not find the solid green pair of ball socks. I had white with a green stripe. They took my idea though and went nuts with it. Their socks are completely covered in various stickers; monkeys, cats, lions whatever would fit. It is very difficult now to tell WHAT color their socks are. Oh well, they were supposed to be silly.

Happy Birthday, Troels!!!!


Good Evans - Oct 27, 2005 5:31 am (#1344 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels, (hem hem on the age!),

Kaykay, I would definintely take your little one back to the Doctor if there is no improvement and actually a deterioration, but I would probably give it a few days to be sure. I know you can feel a bit daft at the Doctor if he thinks you are just being over cautious. But its no fun for your little one - nor you!!!

Finn - thanks for the wishes, he is fine now, just a bit sheepish - and so he should be!!

have a nice thursday, I'll be back on line later this evening


Loopy Lupin - Oct 27, 2005 5:53 am (#1345 of 2980)

We shouldn't forget the fragmented, non-linear narration, either. – Vlad

Oh, and the whole bit where the sounds from the next scene begin during the prior scene!!! Orson started that!

Sunset Boulevard came in at 25, but I don't count that as a "real" Keaton film. Playing a has-been actor who spends his time playing Bridge wasn't exactly a stretch. – Vlad

Your words, not mine.

And what if you are taking material for your report from some pages made for that? Like wikipedia or so? – CatherineHermiona

Then you cite to Wikipedia or the encyclopedia (those are books) where you got the "facts." This can be done by footnote, endnote or more generally in your bibliography. In legal writing, you cite to your source right there within the text. Simply because something is a fact or is presented as a fact does not mean that the source from which you got the fact need not get credit. The best rule is, when in doubt, cite. For example, "the United States has coastline on the Atlantic and Pacific oceans." This is a simple fact that can be observed by anyone and you need not cite to any atlas, globe or map. However, this statement: "The United States' population in 2000 was over 270 million" is a factual statement. But, since the U.S. Census Bureau saved you the trouble of counting everyone, the least you could do is cite to the 2000 U.S. Census Report.

Hope that helps.


Denise P. - Oct 27, 2005 5:54 am (#1346 of 2980)

Dead Poet's Society Blech! Another movie that got rave reviews that I thought was about as interesting as watching corn grow. Of couse, I also was required to go see it for a college class...can't even remember which one though. Being required to see it probably clouded my judgement of it but I remember both Mr. Denise and I being very relieved when the lights finally came back on. Chariots of Fire was another snoozer.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 27, 2005 6:01 am (#1347 of 2980)

Good morning everyone!


I don't really have too much to say right now. I've been up all night and now I'm exhausted!! I'm going to run and check the threads really quick and then take a nap! I'll be back later tonight! Have a great day everyone!!



Steve Newton - Oct 27, 2005 6:04 am (#1348 of 2980)

Hey, don't bad mouth Dead Poets Society. It was filmed in Delaware. It was a tad pretentious, though.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 27, 2005 6:06 am (#1349 of 2980)

It was filmed in Delaware. It was a tad pretentious, though. -- Steve Newton

Gee, that seems like a rather unprovoked attack on the great State of Delaware.


Troels Forchhammer - Oct 27, 2005 6:27 am (#1350 of 2980)

Thank you, everybody, for your kind wishes

Regarding my age, Good Evans, I did say that it was 30 in tridecimal notation (base 13 instead of base 10)

On the other hand, I really like to use hexadecimal (base 16) notation, where I am only 27, but octal (base Cool isn't as good, as I am only one year from being 50 in octal

Should there be a few readers, whom I have not yet succeeded in confusing thoroughly , I would like to apologise

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Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 27, 2005 6:34 am (#1351 of 2980)

Well Troels, you succeeded in confusing me thoroughly, that's for sure!



Steve Newton - Oct 27, 2005 6:37 am (#1352 of 2980)

OK Loopy, the movie, not Delaware, was a tad pretentious.


Ydnam96 - Oct 27, 2005 6:44 am (#1353 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels! However old you are

Jenn, I'm happy for you! See, now his mom can't complain that you want to come pick him up!Wink


Troels Forchhammer - Oct 27, 2005 7:22 am (#1354 of 2980)


That was very kind of you, Jenn

Ydnam, I don't think ‘his’ mom is going to care much either way, but his wife might ...

I won't spoil the pleasure for someone else to calculate my correct age ...



Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 27, 2005 7:29 am (#1355 of 2980)

Umm...Troels, I think you misunderstood Ydnam. Hehe. The "his" she was talking about is my best friend, Aaron, who is currently in Iraq and whose mother doesn't like the idea of me coming with her to meet him when he gets home, and I can assure you, he most certainly does not have a wife!



Catherine - Oct 27, 2005 7:34 am (#1356 of 2980)

Here's my question: Should I take her back to the doctor, or am I just being a paranoid mommy? My girls have had croup before and it's never taken this long to recover, though the doctor said it can happen. --Marie E

I have learned, the hard way, to listen to your mommy instincts! The times I have experienced regret in my parenting has been when I did not listen to my "gut feeling" about my child.

For example, Hayley experienced bouts of wheezing that were first diagnosed (over the phone) as croup and then, in an office visit later that day, as a side effect of reflux (this was not with her regular pediatrician). The doctor would not even consider that she had asthma, even though we have a family history of severe allergies and I experience virally-induced asthma. Nothing like a trip to the emergency room (later that day) with a child who cannot breathe and is panicking to make you wish you had an inhaler. I could have done without that experience, not to mention that Hayley didn't enjoy it either!

So I guess I'm saying that I've had situations where I let someone "convince" me that I was being "fretful mom" when really, my impulses to pursue the issue were correct.


kaykay1970 - Oct 27, 2005 7:37 am (#1357 of 2980)

Troels-I won't spoil the pleasure for someone else to calculate my correct age ...

I'm gonna tell! I'm gonna tell!

Good Evans, it is Marie's girl that is sick. Hopefully she is better today.


T Brightwater - Oct 27, 2005 8:02 am (#1358 of 2980)

Happy Birthday, Troels! I just had my "30th" (in hexadecimal) a few weeks ago. :-)


Kip Carter - Oct 27, 2005 8:30 am (#1359 of 2980)

Troels, Being that you have obtained Jack Benny's annual age, is converting it to something other than decimal a way of convincing yourself that you are really young and definitely not old?

If I use hexidecimal, I would still be two years older than your age in decimal. I like that!


Snuffles - Oct 27, 2005 8:31 am (#1360 of 2980)

Help! Now I'm totally confused, enlighten me somebody pleeeaaasee!!


kaykay1970 - Oct 27, 2005 8:54 am (#1361 of 2980)

In honor of Troels you can figure his age in my riddle:

If one should wish to calculate my age, look at my user i.d.

Adding 4 years to that shall determine the age of he.......


Lina - Oct 27, 2005 9:10 am (#1362 of 2980)

Spending more time in the chat room than on the Forum has its prize... Now I have so many things to comment...

But first: Troels!

science is not a subject in which someone can tell interesting stories --Kate
Unless, they are completely unrelated to the topic, which is exactly what most of his stories are. –Fynn

I must say that I remember many interesting stories concerning science (or mathematics) from my school days, like the apple that fell on Newton's head. You kids should be looking for new teachers if you think that there are no fun stories related to science...

While on the copying thing, I agree with everyone of you that say that's not OK, either being a plagiarism or just having someone else doing the job for you. I must say that I was surprised that the kids didn't have to mention the sources which they used to make their report. But then, I don't remember that it was required when I was in the middle school either. They had to make the table of contents. So, I just guess that they are learning what the paper should have one thing at the time. I don't think that they were expected to do it all by themselves without using the sources. Yet, I hope that all your comments will help her learn the lesson she didn't get at school. What made me loose my mind, was that she actually did several reports and that those kids thought it was normal that someone else does their job. I used to help my friends at school, but it never included doing their jobs for them. On the other side, I meet many people at my work that think it is OK if someone else does something that they were supposed to do, so I hope that she will learn how to deal with that kind much earlier than her mother.

Another story on the copying front: when I went to school, we were supposed to describe our mothers and one girl copied the description from the girl who was sitting with her. The only problem was that the two mothers were not at all alike.

Soul Mate for Sirius, great news! I'm glad that you got up the nerve to say what was on your heart. Separation can do miracles!

Marie, I would take the kid to the doctor again!

Kaykay, that is a very cute riddle! Is it becoming a fashion?

Well, maybe I wanted to add something else, but I think this is quite enough.


Kip Carter - Oct 27, 2005 9:17 am (#1363 of 2980)
Edited Oct 27, 2005 10:10 am

Snuffles, I will try to explain it. Check out this link.

I hope this table explains it to your satisfaction.

I updated the link to include octal and binary.


azi - Oct 27, 2005 9:44 am (#1364 of 2980)

Happy birthday Troels! However, I've had enough of maths today without trying to work out your age.

Great news Jenn!

I'd go back to the doctor Maire, it's better to be safe than sorry!

I can't write first drafts. It's the final thing or nothing. Finished my soil report today, now I've just got to proofread! I would write footnotes, I just haven't been taught how.

It was the most gorgeous weather today! Clear blues skies and nice warm sun. You wouldn't think it was the end of October...


Esther Rose - Oct 27, 2005 9:47 am (#1365 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels! Just remember your still a child at heart in Dumbledore's Eyes.


T Brightwater - Oct 27, 2005 10:15 am (#1366 of 2980)

How about those White Sox?!!!! Only had to wait 88 years for it...of course, my team has been waiting even longer. :-(

(For non US members, one of the two Chicago baseball teams won the World Series [actually the US + Canada championship] last night. And there was much rejoicing.)


Steve Newton - Oct 27, 2005 11:25 am (#1367 of 2980)

Go Sox! The spirit of Minnie Minoso lives on!

Only 3 and a half months until spring training.


Good Evans - Oct 27, 2005 11:33 am (#1368 of 2980)

I'm sorry Kaykay - I guess I read the posts in a rush - I certainly do not wish your daughter the croup!!!!

Marie E - my previous comments would therefore be for you!!

Troels, I hadn't missed the "tricen... thing" - but your attempt to baffle and confuse your way out of admitting your age hadn’t missed me either I knew what you were up to!!! Seriously have a great day - and what are you doing on here - why are you not celebrating with your wife and family?? Afterall 21 comes but once in your lifetime does it not!

have a great day everyone!!


Madam Pince - Oct 27, 2005 12:09 pm (#1369 of 2980)
Edited Oct 27, 2005 12:44 pm

Happy Birthday, Troels! (However old you are.....)

Jenn, that is great news about Aaron! What is it they say... "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." Well, maybe not actually growing fonder, but realizing how fond one actually is to begin with! Is that his picture in your avatar? We are still wishing him well!

Denise, I second the "Ugh!" on Chariots of Fire. On my class senior trip, our teachers thought it would be a fun night to force take us to see that movie one evening. I think the entire class ended up sitting on the floor of the theatre lobby playing cards for the duration. It was a booorrrrring movie. As for Dead Poet's Society, I've only seen it once and have forgotten the details, but I just remember being very mad that the kids betrayed their teacher by not telling the truth about - something? - I can't recall what. I was fussing about it to a co-worker and saying "Why didn't they just tell the truth? It was so unfair!" and she was telling me "Oh you don't understand what it was like back then -- there was so much pressure to conform." Darn tootin' I don't know! I just know I thought there was no excuse for it. I should probably watch that movie again so I know what I'm talking about....

Great story about the "copying," Elanor!

***Waves to "lurker Mandy"***

Very good point about McDonald's and doctors, Squid Mike!

And excellent example on citing references, Loopy! That law-school eddycayshun really does pay off! You have a knack for clarity!

Congratulations to all White Sox fans!

Edit: Somebody asked earlier about the "Free Gasoline for Life" prize that was won on The Amazing Race. This week's "TV Guide" says that the prize was actually a gas card with $1200 per year on it, for each of the four family members, for 50 years. That's still pretty darned impressive -- it adds up to a $240,000 prize.


The giant squid - Oct 27, 2005 1:33 pm (#1370 of 2980)

Should there be a few readers, whom I have not yet succeeded in confusing thoroughly , I would like to apologise –Troels

Actually I was following along rather well (along with being a physics geek I'm also a bit of a math geek). Kip, your chart was great and should help the non-geeks follow along better. Hey, in hexadecimal I'm 21! Party!!

Denise, I wasn't that fond of DPS overall either, but the scene at the end still gets to me. I never saw Chariots of Fire--a movie about a guy running didn't appeal much to me for some reason. You couldn't escape that theme, though...it was everywhere that year.

As for the subject of copying...I'll say one last thing, then we can let Kate rest. While it may seem like you're helping your friends, all you do by writing their papers for them is keep them from actually learning the subject, as well as learning how to write the report itself. Eventually there will come a time where they'll need to turn in a report (for school or work) and you won't be there to write it for them. What'll they do then? As far as copy-and-paste off the net, do as Loopy said: credit where credit is due. If you didn't actually write a certain line or paragraph, acknowledge the person who did. I know in college a lot of times you're allowed to have only a certain number of cited passages and the rest must b in your own words. That way the teacher can tell you actually understand what you're writing about, rather than just regurgitating what someone else said on the subject.

Wow...that was more than I thought I had to say on the subject. Sorry about that!



Lina - Oct 27, 2005 1:36 pm (#1371 of 2980)

Actually, your resume, was quite clear and great! Thank you, Mike!


Kip Carter - Oct 27, 2005 2:01 pm (#1372 of 2980)

The giant squid, Thanks for the compliment on my chart. I hope that it helps some who are visual learners to understand better.

So that everyone knows, there was no plagiarism involved on producing this chart. Each keystroke for both the HTML tags and the data were done by my fingers alone. I almost placed a few errors just in case someone ever copied it to make them think twice about copying in the future, but I did not! Then again, I may have!


Troels Forchhammer - Oct 27, 2005 2:55 pm (#1373 of 2980)

(Thanks to Finn for pointing out that this post had originally ended up in the wrong thread. It is now deleted from there — I hope ...)

Hi Kip,

I've been consistently refusing to think all day, so don't get me started now ... (brilliant table there)

It actually started five years ago when I turned 34. I noted that this was 22 in hex, which was a third of my birth year (sort of), which is '66 (if we forget the centuries). Don't ask me why I noticed that, but I did (people have occasionally accused me of being a nerd — I have no idea why Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1003735042 ). Just for fun I turned that into a system of equations for my colleagues to solve (they were nerds, too, so it was OK ). After that it's become kind of a running joke for me — one that works only once a year — not to give my age in normal notation. I am, however, perfectly happy to say that I am 47 in octal

An Jenn: terribly sorry about the mistake (though I hope it made for a good laugh) — I pray that I can be forgiven for being terribly self-centered just today :ingratiating smile: (too bad that that doesn't make a proper smiley, right)

Have a great day!
(who thinks he's allowed to be silly on his birthday)


Detail Seeker - Oct 27, 2005 3:34 pm (#1374 of 2980)

Troels, congratulations to your 100111 birthday and all the best for your coming 101000. year! I hope, you had a great celebration.


Chemyst - Oct 27, 2005 3:38 pm (#1375 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels. I changed my second line of information in your honor.


boop - Oct 27, 2005 4:14 pm (#1376 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Troels!!!!

Birthday Wishes for Oct.28th: HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEVIKA!!! Have a wonderful day!!!


Madam Pince - Oct 27, 2005 4:20 pm (#1377 of 2980)

Just an FYI.... tonight's episode of E.R. (on American TV) is a repeat of an outstanding one from last year. That used to be one of my very favorite shows, and I still watch it although the quality is deteriorating somewhat, in my opinion. However, this particular episode (with Ray Liotta) takes you back to the good ol' days when every week was riveting and filled with outstanding performances. Ray Liotta is just superb in this one, in my opinion. So, if you're not doing anything exciting, it's worth a watch.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 27, 2005 4:23 pm (#1378 of 2980)

Troels, no worries. You are most certainly forgiven, and you're right, it was a good laugh! Everyone's entitled to some silliness on their birthday!

Yes, Madame Pince, that is the infamous Aaron in my avatar! I don't have any decent pictures of myself on my Mac, so I figured, why not put Aaron up there? I haven't heard from him for two days now, so any little reminder helps. Thanks to everyone yet again for your thoughts/prayers.

I've never seen Chariots of Fire or Dead Poets Society so I'm afraid I don’t have anything useful to add to that topic of conversation. Oh well, I'm sure you all will get along just fine without my input on the subject.

Anyway, I'm off to check the threads and perhaps hang out in the chat room for awhile! Have a great night everyone!



Marè - Oct 27, 2005 4:24 pm (#1379 of 2980)

I have a complaint: There are too many numbers in this thread!
I have enough statistics to deal with as it is. (Ask Gina, she seems to like it..)

Anyway: Happy birthday Troels!

And on the copying note, I too did homework for my brother once. I completely made two drawings for him. Unfortunately, I did it too well and it was kind of obvious that he didn't make them. He only got a 6 (out of 10) the teacher said he would have given me a 9...
That's nice, but doesn't help my brother (but at least he passed).

Also: Congrats Jenn on the happy news, and how brave of you to say a thing like that. Is that Aaron in your picture?
Edit: Aah it is, very pin-uppy picture.


timrew - Oct 27, 2005 4:27 pm (#1380 of 2980)

Last word on copying someone's work. If you steal from one person, then that's plagiarism. If you steal from 20, that's research!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 27, 2005 4:54 pm (#1381 of 2980)

Yeah Mare, it's Aaron in the picture, and you're right, it is a very "pin-uppy" picture. I guess he just can't help being corny when he's getting his picture taken, because out of all the pictures I have of him, that's the least "pin-uppy". What can I say? He's just a ham in front of the camera.

Last word on copying someone's work. If you steal from one person, then that's plagiarism. If you steal from 20, that's research! –Tim

Thanks for that clarification Tim!!!



Finn BV - Oct 27, 2005 5:44 pm (#1382 of 2980)

Wow! You guys are a chatty bunch! I just read through 50+ posts!

Jenn, I've read TKaM before, but I love it. It's great. On my top ten (counting Harry as one, of course, a section of its own ). And you got an avatar… is that Aaron? (Edit: I see it is now. As I say, you guys were a chatty crowd tonight!) Congrats about telling him!

LOL, Elanor, bad girl!

Happy Birthday Troels, again, from Potty HQ… Thankfully in Math Honors last year we learned bases. And I read Kip's chart somewhere around here. (Edit: Now I see there's a link to it… I found the hard way.) It's easy for me, since we're in base 13, I'm 10! Anybody here have a letter in their age?

Finn, you were called Smart Alec? –Kate

I was, but in general, I'm not. In a unit about observations, and taking stuff for granted or not, I was called a Smart Alec by Mr. Gross for saying that all of the questions were observations, because they all referred to a drawing as "In the aquarium…" when we weren't sure if it was an aquarium or not (you were apparently supposed to take that for granted, but that was the whole point of the exercise, so I still think I'm right Stubborn me.).

Marie, healing charms to the little one!

I can assure you, he most certainly does not have a wife! –Jenn

That's what you think! Just kidding.

You kids should be looking for new teachers if you think that there are no fun stories related to science –Lina

Oh, there are, just more of them are not science-related.

Yes, congrats to your boys, Brightwater.

It actually started five years ago when I turned 34. –Troels

For those who are still confused, a simple subtraction does it now!!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't. --Chemyst's second line

LOL! ROTFL! That is hilarious! I am going to treasure that line forever – it is immortal now! **bows down to Chemyst**

Finally, the GOF soundtrack is up for Mac!! Woohoo! Oh, we have an XC (Cross-Country) meet tomorrow, it's the second most important one besides the championship. Going for five and oh!

Good night everyone!


Marè - Oct 27, 2005 5:55 pm (#1383 of 2980)

Anybody here have a letter in their age?

So if I got this right, I'm the same age as the name of the corridor I live in... (1C). Charming.


Marie E. - Oct 27, 2005 6:10 pm (#1384 of 2980)

Lexie has a doctor appointment tomorrow morning. I spoke to the nurse who visits our center once a month and asked her advice. She said that she probably needs another prescription of oral steroid to help open up her airways. The first prescription she got was only for three days. The nurse said they can do a five to six day one with few side effects.

I went to Lexie's parent-teacher conference. I can't stand the first report card of the year because at the girls' school they always mark low then raise the grades as the year goes on. It makes me panic to see all the PP's (partially proficient) on her report. I'm going to pop in and see her physical education teacher tomorrow because on her report he gave her a 2 in health promoting fitness (2 is marginal proficiency). She has a 4 in participation (4 is proficient) so I know she's participating in class. If she got a 2 because she's not very athletic, I'll be a bit upset. Poor thing, she can't walk down our hallway without hurting herself. Very clumsy. Her music teacher added this comment: "off-task behavior interferes with learning". This is teacher-talk for "goofs off and disrupts my class". Her classroom teacher said that the excessive talking to neighbors from last month has been replaced by "zoning out" and not hearing instructions. It's shaping up to be an interesting year!

Happy Birthday Troels!

I heard on the news that for the first time in four years it's not supposed to rain, sleet, or snow on Halloween. I'm so relieved that I won't have to add snow boots to Lexie's butterfly costume.


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 27, 2005 7:07 pm (#1385 of 2980)

Happy Birthday, Troels.

Loopy, we should write a book about movies. And for the record, when Buster comes up, I always say he is the funniest silent era actor. I never bring Jimmy Durante or Beach Blanket Bingo into the debate. Which of the 10 had the better career in talkies goes without saying.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 27, 2005 7:37 pm (#1386 of 2980)

Wow Finn, you're right, we have been a chatty bunch recently! I'd have to say that TKaMB is in my top 10 as well (again, like you, counting Harry as 1!!) But, I must admit, that even to this day, I cry every time I read it! I'm such a sap! And yes, I finally got an avatar, and, go figure, it's Aaron! Thanks everyone for the congrats! I'm just so happy I finally got it over with and told him!!

Oh! And Finn...do you know something I don't?!? (That's what you think! Just kidding. )

Marie, I hope Lexie feels better soon! Healing charms her way!

Anyway, I'm headed out with my friends for the night, but I wanted to pop in and see how everyone was one last time! Have a great night everyone!!



Amilia Smith - Oct 27, 2005 8:01 pm (#1387 of 2980)

I had a little spare time this afternoon as one of my profs is out of town. So I went to the library and watched The Day the Universe Changed, "Infinitely Reasonable" by James Burke. The Day the Universe Changed is an excellent old BBC documentary series about the history of science, and how it affects the way we think, live and act today. So I was thinking of you all. Interesting Science Stories. Newtonian Physics. Complicated Math. The was even a mention of Keaton, Vlad. Benjamin Dunlap was interviewing Burke after the program, and he said, "You seem to take a very Buster Keaton-like approach to history."

So, you see, everything relates to the forum.

Oh, and a quick note on Wikipedia and plagerism. This is my profs main complaint about Wikipedia. Everybody just copies and pastes from other websites into the Wikipedia articles with out citing their sources. So the articles aren't original, and you don't know where they came from. Which is not to say they are not accurate, just that they don't give credit where it is due.



Lina - Oct 27, 2005 10:56 pm (#1388 of 2980)

Happy birthday Devika!

Tim, as accurate as always!


CatherineHermiona - Oct 28, 2005 2:48 am (#1389 of 2980)

OK, I'm going to have final word here (if you allow). So, plagerism is bad, we all agree at that point. But, I totally agree with Timrew, even if he was joking, I'm serious. Because if you take different clues from different pages, you've created an unique work. Also, I agree with you, Mills. I was working a report for Croatian, about films. I went to Wikipedia and found a good MATERIAL for my report. But I saw immediately from which page that was taken. From pages that I took material for Martina's work! Same grammatical mistakes, first thing I saw on both works. But that writes nowhere, exactly as you said. On the end:

Plagerism is bad. If you have to take mere facts, give credit. If no, change at least a little bit.

Although, if you are taking from different page, that's unique work. But it's not wrong to give a credits.

ALWAYS, but always, say where you found material for the articles on Wikipedia. Or your private pages. And always, translate it to Croatian (so I don't have to ). Last report I had to translate total work on Croatian (about sundials). So it ended with my words at all.

That should be all. And Happy Birthday Devika!!!!!!

Off to go to school. Kate


Troels Forchhammer - Oct 28, 2005 4:43 am (#1390 of 2980)

Have a happy birthday, Devika!

In one of my text books at university, the writer had included a quotation (the original was in German, but I'll try my hand at translating):

To copy out one learned book is a plagiarism.
To copy out two learned books is an essay.
To copy out three learned books is a fourth learned book.

In general: give credit where credit is due, and make sure that there's something to your own credit That's another (albeit ex-) teacher speaking there



The giant squid - Oct 28, 2005 6:02 am (#1391 of 2980)

off-task behavior interferes with learning. This is teacher-talk for "goofs off and disrupts my class".--Marie E.

Sounds like someone else we know, doesn't it? Actually, I think that would describe about 99% of our family at one point or another. They're just jealous because we're better than them.

I would like to take this time to give a Public Service announcement: Do not--I repeat--do not go see The Weather Man starring Nicolas Cage. It is by far the most depressing movie I've ever been forced to sit through. I got paid to screen it and I still want my money back. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't need a movie where the moral is "Life sucks and then you accept it." Ugh.

Then again, that may have had to do with watching it at 3 AM after having worked 9 hours already...I can't be sure.



Loopy Lupin - Oct 28, 2005 8:09 am (#1392 of 2980)

Loopy, we should write a book about movies.—Vlad

Cool! All we need to do now is get a publishing house and we'll be good. Or, heck, I'd be satisfied if we just got a publishing room.

Not to deny anyone the last word in the plagiarism commentary, but I can add another old adage to Tim's and Troels' (Happy Birthday by the way): In the realm of fiction, it is often said that good writers borrow, but great writers steal. Knowing this is why I am never bothered by anyone's accusation that JKR stole this or that idea.


Thora - Oct 28, 2005 8:42 am (#1393 of 2980)

Just an FYI, for those following the Thora Saga.

We went down to Myrtle Beach over the weekend, I got back in the wee-hours this morning. Looks like I'm moving down on Wednesday with the bare essentials, and getting a job to help finance all of this.

So I probably won't be reading this thread, sigh, robbed of my life I tell ya, robbed.

If anyone feels the need to brighten the day of an Aqua-phobic living on the ocean, just zip me an email.

Best wishes and Happy Harry Potter Day, umm I mean...Halloween to all.



Good Evans - Oct 28, 2005 10:50 am (#1394 of 2980)

I cant believe no one has posted this yet, on the news today in UK is that the blue Ford Anglia used in COS movie has been stolen!

They are assuming that a "Harry Potter Freak" (charming!) has pinched it. I didn’t quite catch where it had been stolen from other than it was visible from the road so anyone could have been responsible, also it doesn't "go" so it wasn't driven away. WEll of course it doesnt "go" it is totally wild and normally resides in the forbidden forrest, it has clearly gone on a road trip


Catherine - Oct 28, 2005 1:33 pm (#1395 of 2980)

I got paid to screen it and I still want my money back. --Squid Mike

LOL! Did I mention that I finally watched The Village the other night? I laughed the whole way through the movie, imagining Loopy Lupin's response to what I was seeing. Kim, I have to agree with Loopy about this movie....

Mike, I will take your advice--life is too short, and babysitters too pricey, to watch bad movies.

I'm off to help out with "Fall Festival" at the school where I have been substitute teaching. I was assigned "the coin toss." I asked the person in charge if these means that students will be throwing money at me, and if I get to keep what they throw. She didn't think this was funny, alas earwax.

It's also Homecoming Weekend for ECU this weekend, so things should be fairly hectic around town.

Hope everyone enjoys a pleasant Friday evening.


haymoni - Oct 28, 2005 1:44 pm (#1396 of 2980)

Good Evans - I posted it on the COS movie thread - no comments!


kaykay1970 - Oct 28, 2005 3:59 pm (#1397 of 2980)

My eldest two children have a costume party tonight. One is going as a geisha and the other a chancellor. They are so cute! Tomorrow my baby is going on her first date!! They are going to the matinee. I don't know why this is making me nervous. She has been out with this boy many, many times when they had only a "friends" status.


Dr Filibuster - Oct 28, 2005 4:11 pm (#1398 of 2980)

A chancellor???? Which one? Gordon Brown, Chancellor of the Exchequer?


haymoni - Oct 28, 2005 4:11 pm (#1399 of 2980)

kaykay, you'll be okaykay.  :goofygrin:

Note: My children are only 12 & 5 so I haven't had this experience yet, but I think you'll be fine!


kaykay1970 - Oct 28, 2005 4:30 pm (#1400 of 2980)

The chancellor costume looks more like an advisor to an English nobleman type thing.

Oh,I forgot. When I was shopping for costumes I found Harry Potter quidditch robes. Did my children want to wear them? No! Did I buy them? You bet!!
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Dr Filibuster - Oct 28, 2005 4:41 pm (#1401 of 2980)

Lol! Are you going to make your kids wear the robes? Even the kids in the movies don't seem to bother these days.

Still can't picture a Chancellor outfit. Now I'm thinking of Prince Charles' aides; they just wear boring suits don't they?

I wonder if there are any (insert US equivalent of Gordon Brown) costumes out there?


timrew - Oct 28, 2005 4:45 pm (#1402 of 2980)

Latest report on the stolen 'Harry Potter' Ford Anglia - it was last seen, by several muggles, flying over Bristol. Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 2752390508

Edit:- Oh, and Happy Birthday, Troels!


kaykay1970 - Oct 28, 2005 4:55 pm (#1403 of 2980)
Edited Oct 28, 2005 5:52 pm

No I won't make them were the robe. I was thinking ahead. I seem to recall the last book release party. All the children WANTED to dress in robes that night. Maybe on the chancellor thing I should have said Old-English. I've seen something like it in movies. I don't know but it looks cool and even better it was on sale!!


I Am Used Vlad - Oct 28, 2005 4:56 pm (#1404 of 2980)

Good work, Tim. This may be a clue pointing us towards the actual location of Godric's Hollow.


Madam Pince - Oct 28, 2005 5:25 pm (#1405 of 2980)

I think you're right, Vlad. Obviously, Harry has started his Book 7 quest already -- he's using the Anglia to go to Godric's Hollow, then he'll slip by his parents' graves, then off on the Great Horcrux Hunt.

Or else somebody thinks they can get by with selling it on eBay without any officials noticing....


Chemyst - Oct 28, 2005 6:55 pm (#1406 of 2980)

Or else somebody thinks they can get by with selling it on eBay without any officials noticing....[

Very cute, Madam P.


Finn BV - Oct 28, 2005 8:23 pm (#1407 of 2980)

on the news today in UK is that the blue Ford Anglia used in COS movie has been stolen! --Good Evans

Alas, I have been discovered. **hides in shame**

Er, um, yes, I won again at XC. They were finally giving out medals this time so I got the gold! We had good support… **waves to Steph and Amelia, if she's around**

Good night, all!


kaykay1970 - Oct 28, 2005 8:28 pm (#1408 of 2980)

Way to go, Finn!

There was a costume contest at the kids' party. My little geisha did pretty good but eventually lost to a fairy and a guy that looked half frozen to death. The chancellor whatever thingy did not do quite as well. He should have taken my advice and worn the quidditch robes. Ah well...


Madam Pince - Oct 28, 2005 9:37 pm (#1409 of 2980)

kaykay, we had a costume party at Little Pince's preschool today, too. Not a contest, but they had a little parade and party -- it was very cute. He was Buzz Lightyear, his favorite character. There was another little boy in his class who is only a week apart from him in age, and they play together a lot because they have similar temperaments, and he had the exact same Buzz costume! To the tiniest detail -- they looked like twins. It was pretty cute. But I wished Little Pince had elected to wear his Evil Emperor Zurg costume -- it would've made a nice foil to the other Buzz. Oh well.

We're watching a tape of "Sorceror's Stone" again tonight, and yet again I wish mightily for Minerva's green velvet robes -- they are so cool looking. I even have a brooch that could sort of pass for hers -- mine only has one garnet, but it's similar in shape, etc. The hat would be easy.... now I've just got to find green velvet robes...

Isn't it funny how Halloween brings out the costume designer in all of us? In years past, I've been a geisha girl; Hans (of Hans & Franz); Glinda the Good Witch (with my friends as all the other Oz characters); a ummm... hmmmm... can't say that one here; the Immunity Idol from Survivor; and one of my company's major business competitors with a bullet wound to the head. That last one almost earned me a couple of "mental health" vacation days -- I think a few people were seriously concerned about my stress level.


kaykay1970 - Oct 29, 2005 5:50 am (#1410 of 2980)
Edited Oct 29, 2005 6:38 am

Wow, Madame Pince. That last one concerns me a little ,too. I'm making a mental note to always stay on your "good" side. HeeHee I know what you mean about having fun with Halloween. I would wear these quidditch robes if they had Bell printed on them instead of Potter.


Snuffles - Oct 29, 2005 6:55 am (#1411 of 2980)

Thanks for that Kip! I prefer my age in Tridecimal, I'm only 24!!!



Marie E. - Oct 29, 2005 7:21 am (#1412 of 2980)

Last night was our Fall Festival at work. I was in charge of the Haunted House. We spent about three hours lining the room with black sheeting and using the sheeting to divide the room into four rooms. The schoolagers had spent two weeks elaborately planning what they would do in the four rooms. There was to be a graveyard room, a witches room, an alien abduction room, and a dead biker/zombie room. It ended up being "four dark rooms where kids chase each other and scream". It was all good until my Lexie ran into boy and they both came out crying. I was a bit diappointed in him as he's a third grader. Lexie was a Monarch butterfly, Shayla was a Zombie Prom Date, and I was a witch. As I climbed into our Tahoe leaving for the Fall Festival, Mr. E asked why don't I just fly over to the school. I replied, "We're not supposed to let the Muggles see us, silly."


Stephanie M. - Oct 29, 2005 8:24 am (#1413 of 2980)

**waves back at Finn**

I haven't decided what I'm going to do for Halloween yet. I have a Spanish test the next day, so I'll have to study. But I really want to do something with some of my friends, even if they haven't planned anything yet. I also don't have a costume yet so I'll need to get something at the last minute.


Ydnam96 - Oct 29, 2005 8:59 am (#1414 of 2980)

Well today is homecoming here...which means I'm busy all day long. Oooooof. Blowing up ballons, hanging streamers, making sure the kiddies (and by that I mean college kids) don't cause too much trouble.

It doesn't help that it's also Halloween this weekend too. The residents are getting so rowdy. We have an event on Monday night, it's costume, so I'm dressing up in my outfit from when I worked at the Renissance Faire. I wish I had the green velvet robes and hat to be Minerva. I love that outfit. But I have no money and no sewing machine. The outfit is just a plain sort of barmaid outfit but it's free and I've got it.

Anyway. All the kiddies outfits sound great. Smile Have a wonderful weekend.


kaykay1970 - Oct 29, 2005 10:56 am (#1415 of 2980)

My Hubby says he'll wear my quidditch robes, only if I drive to Books-A-Million for the matching goggles! A bald Harry Potter with a full beard is more than I can handle!! Ha Ha

My daughter's first date should be a memorable one. I am considering dressing as a queen for Halloween. I had been trying to figure out how to fix my hair wearing a crown. I ran to answer a knock at the door. It is my daughter's date and all he can say is "Hey, nice tiara!!" It was not until then that I realized I was still wearing it.


boop - Oct 29, 2005 12:26 pm (#1416 of 2980)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HEM HEM(Jackie). Have a great day!!!


Choices - Oct 29, 2005 1:08 pm (#1417 of 2980)

Wow, I can't believe how quickly this thread grows. LOL My daughter and grandson are doing well. His name is Gabriel Benjamin Blaylock and he is a doll. I do have a granddaughter - Tara, and she recently got her Hogwart's letter. She is 11 and her birthday is the same day Harry had to go to his hearing at the MOM - Aug. 12th. Thank you all for your good wishes on the birth of my grandson - I am thrilled to be the "Nana" of two now. :-) I also have to brag on my new puppy - a little Cairn Terrier named Hermione who is three months old.


Lina - Oct 29, 2005 2:17 pm (#1418 of 2980)

Happy birthday Hem Hem!

We do not have a tradition of Halloween here, but we have a tradition of visiting the cemeteries on the first of November, so we went to the cemetery today to clean and prepare it to be beautiful for the first of November. It is a nice custom. Actually, we get to meet many people only on that day, while walking on the cemetery, and it helps if it is a nice day as it was today. My husband was even wearing a T-shirt!

Finn, congratulations on your newest victory!

Choices, I like your grandson's name. If I had two sons, the second one would be Gabriel. But well, I have no sons at all. And congratulations about your puppy!


Finn BV - Oct 29, 2005 2:26 pm (#1419 of 2980)

Choices – Hermione? What kind of a name is that?   Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 464751818  Congrats again.

Thanks, Lina.

I'm not doing Halloween this year, but I haven't for since fifth grade (three years ago). I enjoy handing out candy and commenting on little kids' costumes.


Stephanie M. - Oct 29, 2005 2:54 pm (#1420 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Hem Hem!

Congratulations on the dog Choices! I love the name!

I haven't done Halloween in a very long time either. I don't go trick or treating any more, I usually hang out with my family of friends (in costumes for the fun of it). I have worn the same costume for 4 years so I really wanted a different one. But I always do last minute Halloween planning so I have been stuck with the same thing.

Oh well, I guess I'll be stuck with being a hippie with my "Lucius Malfoy" hair. (That's what I call the wig. My dad wore it one year and a kid said that he looked like Lucius Malfoy. Hehe)

Note to Finn: Your second line of information was totally inspired by MY second line of information! I'm going to make mine better now, because mine only says, "Boo!" But your's says, "BOO!". Which in a way fits into older conversation about Plagiarism! But you didn't copy me, you put what I said into your own words. This is all assuming you saw my second line of information before you changed your avatar and sentence to go along with it.


Madam Pince - Oct 29, 2005 2:55 pm (#1421 of 2980)

We're not supposed to let the Muggles see us, silly. Good answer, Marie!

Choices, welcome to Baby Gabriel and Puppy Hermione! Both sound adorable. I love the name Gabriel, too. We considered it for Little Pince but it almost/kinda/sorta rhymes with our last name, so unfortunately it would've sounded kind of silly. Sigh.... We got attached to the name after watching the Mel Gibson / Heath Ledger movie "The Patriot" where the son was named Gabriel. (Great movie, by the way. If you think Jason Isaacs was evil as Lucius, just wait 'til you see him in that one!)

Happy Birthday to Jackie! (and I think I missed Devika a few days ago, too...) ***waves to Boop***

Stephanie, sometimes the best inspiration comes with the last-minute costume scramble (oops, there I go procrastinating again. ) I'm sure you'll come up with something great!

Finn, why don't you dress like a 50-year-old professor? That's what we all thought you were, anyway.... You'd really scare all the kiddies if you answer the door like that...


Stephanie M. - Oct 29, 2005 3:05 pm (#1422 of 2980)

I think I might have missed Devika's birthday too! (I'm not sure though I can barely remember what I did this morning! Boy am I getting old! )

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY Devika!! I hope you have many more happy and healthy years ahead of you!

Well, I don't plan on doing anything with my family or friends so I might just get a costume that I have here and answer the door for all of the little (and big) kiddies that come by.

I like the idea of Finn as a 50-year-old professor! He does have his white side burns and pictures of his grandchildren... He could go out and he wouldn't be carded!


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 29, 2005 4:37 pm (#1423 of 2980)

Dude! It snowed!

Catherine, obviously you failed to suspend your belief in reality long enough to enjoy The Village. It is possible, you know. And I've got the straitjacket to prove it. The least you could have done was focus on the cuteness that is Joaquin Phoenix.


Eponine - Oct 29, 2005 4:53 pm (#1424 of 2980)

Going way, way back to our discussion about duct tape. Here's an interesting story about a duct tape Halloween costume.

The least you could have done was focus on the cuteness that is Joaquin Phoenix.

And isn't Adrien Brody in it too? I haven't seen it, but I believe I could focus on the cuteness for a few hours.


Viola Intonada - Oct 29, 2005 6:16 pm (#1425 of 2980)

Happy Birthday Jackie! *waves to Boop*

Stores just don't accommodate procrastinators anymore. Most of the Halloween displays have been replaced with Christmas ones. Their stock of Halloween stuff is getting very limited. I couldn't even find Halloween sprinkles for the cookies I'm going to make tomorrow.

Sometimes I dress-up for Halloween. I have a Minnie Mouse costume and a French immigrant from the 1700's costume. I think my family would say that I don't have to dress-up to be a witch. (my children have been fighting with each other incessantly the past few days, it has totally ruined my mood) Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1242194059

We went shopping at "Build-A-Bear Workshop" today. They now have a teddy bear costume that is a black robe with a "Wizard Academy" patch on it. I had to get the costume and the bear today. (We were there because my youngest was really, really, really wanting a Pink Flamingo that is being discontinued) I named my bear "Beary Potter".

Btw, how do we address ourselves. Are we Lexiconers, Lexiconians, Lex people, Lex Folks, St. Mungo's inmates????

Anyway, any fellow Lexiconians (or whatever we should call ourselves) that are interested in seeing GoF in Cleveland on November 19, please email me soon. I would like to purchase advanced tickets.


The giant squid - Oct 29, 2005 7:23 pm (#1426 of 2980)

The schoolagers [...]--Marie E.[

For some reason, everytime I see this word I hear it rhyming with "dowager" (emphasis on the first & last syllables).

I wasn't originally planning on working this Halloween, and thus wasn't planning on wearing a costume, but a last minute adjustment has me closing the theater Monday night. As such I'm forced to dig out last year's costume (Jedi robes, natch).

Viola, I'm jealous that you were able to find the "Wizard Academy" robes at BABW. We were told that they were no longer available. Two of the three stuffed family members have robes, but we need a third to complete the set.


joins the group waving at Betty while congratulating Jackie


azi - Oct 30, 2005 6:45 am (#1427 of 2980)

I'm not really into Halloween purely because my mother doesn't believe it should be celebrated. She's against the whole idea that you go and threaten people to give you sweets or they'll get eggs thrown at their house (I've no idea if this is what happens in the USA, but I know it happens in the UK). Therefore I've never been to a Halloween party or anything. Shame really, it sounds really fun to dress up!

I would refer to us as 'Lexiconers' or merely 'forumers'.

I had a fun weekend. A friend came over to stay so we decided to be tourists for the day and walk around the whole city wall (that which remains anyway!). I got slightly over excited when we saw the Minster lit up with brilliant changing rainbow colours after dark - it was beautiful! It's one of those moments you need a camera for but, alas earwax, I didn't have one. Now I have laundry and maths homework to do - not so fun. But at least I have food after shopping this morning!

Happy (belated, methinks) birthday to Hem Hem!

I didn't get caught out by the end of British Summer Time! That was lucky, I didn't know it was changing until yesterday!


Marie E. - Oct 30, 2005 6:46 am (#1428 of 2980)

We invited two families we are friends with over last night for pumpkin carving but somehow Mr. E turned it into an actual party. I'm not anti-social or anything, but I wasn't planning on having people over until midnight. I don't even know if I'm going to attempt to wake up my kids for Sunday School. Shayla especially is not a morning person and needs about ten hours of sleep. I tried hinting to Mr. E at about 10:30 that it was getting late but he either ignored it or didn't get it. Maybe the extra hour of sleep will help them.

We're invited to a Halloween party at Mr. E's boss' house. It seems like Halloween has as many parties and get-togethers as Christmas!


Finn BV - Oct 30, 2005 7:20 am (#1429 of 2980)

Your second line of information was totally inspired by MY second line of information! –Steph

No, duh, my second line of information has one exclamation point and yours has two! How obvious is the difference??

Madam P, I was actually thinking of a getting a costume and dressing up as a 13-year-old kid who goes to a school and is a runner and a tennis player and a piano player, but I thought that the store wouldn't have that, so I just decided to go as myself… Actually, I love handing out candy and saying what a nice costume.

Happy Birthday, Jackie!


Elanor - Oct 30, 2005 8:34 am (#1430 of 2980)

Happy birthday Jackie!

Here it is! We have put our clocks back to "Winter time" which was great because the night was an hour longer but is a bit weird now because it is 5.30 pm and night is falling. As usual, it will take me a few days before being used to it.

As for Lina, All Saints' Day is the real celebrated day here, day on which people visit cemetaries to lay chrysanthemums on the graves of their relatives. I love those flowers! Some days ago, my Mum and I went to choose ours in big greenhouses full of them and it was really beautiful. On All Saints' Day, cimeteries look like big gardens full of flowers, this is very pretty. For now, we're very lucky because the weather is much milder and sunnier than it usually is at this time of the year, I hope it will last a few more days!

Halloween is sometimes celebrated by kids but it is pretty rare and, most of the time, they just put some costumes on and have a party with some friends and don't ask for sweets.

For my part, halloween first means "possible update on JKR's site" so I guess I'm going to spend the day checking for such an update... Maybe if I put my Beauxbatons cloak on that will help after all...

Have a great Sunday everybody!


Detail Seeker - Oct 30, 2005 10:56 am (#1431 of 2980)

Forumers ? Lexiconists ? Lexiconians ? Lexies ?

If we ask the "Guardian" we will have call ourselves "Steve’s dazed acolytes", in short SDAs.


CatherineHermiona - Oct 30, 2005 11:01 am (#1432 of 2980)
Edited Oct 30, 2005 11:41 am

Elanor, I also like chrysanthemums and it's a pity we can't give them to alive people. As a flower is guilty because it grows at this time of year! I especially like those round big ones. My favorite flowers.

We (me and my sister) went to the cinema with Amy to watch Wallace and Gromit. Good movie. When movie ended both me and Amy found out 20 kunas are missing to each of us. Even more strange, two boys seemed like they are following us. We went to McDonald's and still thought two boys stole the money. And then we went home. In the bus I just yelled: "We didn't count popcorn and drink!!!". Amy realized she done the same. And we were so worried!!!!!!

Mandy, thanks for correction! I found that strange, that steeled, but that's what I found most similar at Check Spelling. I firstly wrote stealed. Thanks![

I'm in the chat room. Kate


Ydnam96 - Oct 30, 2005 11:17 am (#1433 of 2980)

Kate, I'm glad to hear your money was not stolen. Steal is an irregular verbs so the past tense is actually stole. Just so you know Smile


Chemyst - Oct 30, 2005 1:01 pm (#1434 of 2980)

“Steve's dazed acolytes”   Still a bit ticked I see. Well then, it looks like the Guardian has solved all our costuming problems since they find us scary just as we are.

The newspaper here has printed an article that will affect your waistline more than your blood pressure. It has a recipe for finger cookies, which uses a basic sugar cookie or butter cookie dough, but the way they did it up for Halloween is a bit unique. The dough is rolled into the shape of a human finger, and then they take the back of a knife to put the little wrinkles in at the knuckles and to flatten an area for the nail. After baking, they took slivered almonds and used them like fake nails "gluing" them on with a bit of icing. For the photo which accompanies the article, they placed the cookies on a musical keyboard. It is very well done and just plain creepy – you can easily imagine organ or harpsichord music emanating from some ethereal sphere.


timrew - Oct 30, 2005 2:48 pm (#1435 of 2980)

Detail Seeker:- If we ask the "Guardian" we will have call ourselves "Steve’s dazed acolytes", in short SDAs

Or, Steve's acolytes, dazed, DS, which would make us 'SADs'......


boop - Oct 30, 2005 4:36 pm (#1436 of 2980)

***Waves back to Michelle, Mike and Madam Pince******


Finn BV - Oct 30, 2005 5:48 pm (#1437 of 2980)

Oh, I'm so glad everything turned out okay, Kate.

I went to a concert of Peter Cincotti's today. He is a 23-year-old child prodigy pianist and singer who also graduated from our high school. He was playing/singing at SUNY Purchase (university) and I had the wonderful opportunity to listen to him, and then go backstage and meet him! He's a nice guy, he shook my hand, I told him I was an eighth grader at Horace Mann (our school) and he was very impressed. It was fun!!

Good night everyone. Have a good Halloween tomorrow!

Edit: Anybody seen anything of fleur-de-lys lately? Her last post: fleur-de-lys, "Chat and Greeting Thread (6 Jun 05 to 31 Aug 05)" #1427, 9 Jul 2005 9:59 am


Loopy Lupin - Oct 30, 2005 7:36 pm (#1438 of 2980)

Catherine, obviously you failed to suspend your belief in reality long enough to enjoy The Village. It is possible, you know. And I've got the straitjacket to prove it. The least you could have done was focus on the cuteness that is Joaquin Phoenix.—Kim

Not even a straightjacket, straightpants, straightshirt, together with any other manner of straight accessories () would be sufficient to allow anyone to enjoy The Village. I really don't think a failure to suspend belief was the problem for me or Catherine. Catherine is, after all, a host on a website dedicated to a boy wizard. I had trouble suspending my disbelief. That is to say, I sat in utter disbelief at the end of that movie, certain that I would not ever see my $8.50 again. There's a reason why after an opening weekend of about $50 million, The Village raked in a whopping $16 million the following weekend. It's called "word-of-mouth." I can only hope I contributed to the 68% dropoff in box office receipts. I shall not rest until M. Night SHyAMalan is directing breakfast cereal commercials.

Congrats Finn. I never had that much luck meeting the people I admired when I was your age.

Happy Hallows Eve everyone!


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 30, 2005 8:08 pm (#1439 of 2980)

Well, I refuse to be cowed. I stand by my statement--especially the Joaquin Phoenix part. As for directing cereal commercials, what about The Sixth Sense? And Signs? And if you say one thing about how transparent they were I would argue that the strength of both of those movies was the depiction of warm and loving human relationships.

EDIT: As for Catherine, here's a woman who would bring two! count 'em, two! Tom Cruise movies to a desert island. Catherine, "Chat and Greeting Thread (2 Sep 04 to 30 Nov 04)" #2040, 27 Oct 2004 3:32 pm I rest my case. Talk about suspending belief in reality!


Viola Intonada - Oct 30, 2005 8:14 pm (#1440 of 2980)

Lol, so many choices to choose from concerning how to address ourselves.

I thought of the forum today, "The Goonies" aired on ABC Family today. So of course, I had to watch it. Thus leaving poor hubby to rake leaves by himself for a while. (I did eventually go outside to help him)

One thing I love about this chat thread is how much I learn about other countries. I didn't realize how differently Halloween is celebrated around the world.


Soul Mate for Sirius - Oct 30, 2005 8:47 pm (#1441 of 2980)

Geez you guys were chatty this weekend!!

One thing I love about this chat thread is how much I learn about other countries. I didn't realize how differently Halloween is celebrated around the world. –Viola

I totally agree Viola. As a newer member to the forum, I must say that a large part of what drew me in originally was that the members are from such different backgrounds and from so many different places. I think it's wonderful!!

I feel like Halloween has already come and gone! Such is life on a college campus I guess. Everyone here celebrated this past weekend by going to parties and the like, and, since there are no little kids to trick-or-treat on the campus, there's not much happening here tomorrow! I'm kind of bummed about it, but the celebrations this weekend were a lot of fun!!

Oh!! Aaron just signed on-line, so this is all from me for now!! I've got to go!! Have a great night everyone!!



Denise P. - Oct 30, 2005 9:02 pm (#1442 of 2980)

There's a reason why after an opening weekend of about $50 million, The Village raked in a whopping $16 million the following weekend. It's called "word-of-mouth."

Well, that word never reached me! No one would tell me what stunk so badly about The Village so I ended up renting it. Pu-lease was my reaction at the big reveal. I like M. Night but what was he thinking with this one??

We have a stomach bug working its way through the house...always fun. I just hope that everyone feels better tomorrow or there will be some sniffling and tears when it comes time to head out candy gathering. Yes, I am a mean mom...if they are sick, they are not going out no matter how well they feel right then and there.


The giant squid - Oct 30, 2005 11:29 pm (#1443 of 2980)

A couple of quick retorts:

I tried hinting to Mr. E at about 10:30 that it was getting late but he either ignored it or didn't get it.--Marie E.

I'm betting on "didn't get it". He's a smart guy, but also a little thick sometimes.

I shall not rest until M. Night SHyAMalan is directing breakfast cereal commercials.--Loopy Lupin

The only good thing I can say about the man is that he opposes the "no release window" initiative (i.e. releasing movies into the theaters and on DVD at that same time). Other than that he's an over-hyped once-lucky hack. Sixth Sense--good. Unbreakable--okay (and that's coming from a comic book geek! [yes, I have many geek hats...sometimes I look like Dobby after cleaning the Gryffindor common room]). Signs and The Village--plot holes big enough to drive a fleet of semis through.

Anybody seen anything of fleur-de-lys lately?--Finn BV

From what I know, Fleur-de-Lys has moved on to other pastures (he said diplomatically). I doubt she'll be back for the GoF movie release (she didn't come back for HBP after all) but I hold out hope she'll stop by when book 7 comes out...


EDIT: To all of those who remember my ordeal in getting a hold of a Darth Tater way back when...he now has a cohort of two Spud Troopers flanking him atop my computer desk. So far I've only found them available through Starwarsshop.com (and thus paid about twice as much as normal), but some one with more patience than myself may be able to get them through Amazon eventually.


dizzy lizzy - Oct 31, 2005 1:40 am (#1444 of 2980)

Hi all!!!

I've been quite busy over the past week or so with work. The weather is really starting to warm up and we have had two thunderstorms in a row this week. Poor Macca has spent most of the storms shivering and generally acting like the terrified dog he is.

I'm still trying to adjust to the "leap forward" in us changing to Daylight Saving (Not all States in Australia observe Daylight Saving so confusion reigns for a while now) yesterday.

Halloween means absolutely nothing to me. It is not generally celebrated over here as it has very little relevance to us.

We do however celebrate the running of the Melbourne Cup (horsies) at approx 3.25pm on Tuesday 1st November! Many racecourse such as ours will hold a short Melbourne Cup raceday meeting and screen the big race as well.

I've made sure I haven't any work booked at that time, I do so want to watch the one and only race I watch each year!

Enjoy Halloween!!



kaykay1970 - Oct 31, 2005 6:35 am (#1445 of 2980)

We rented movies last night for myself and three eldest children to get into the Halloween spirit. We watched White Noise and The Boogeyman. Today we are watching The Ring 2 if we have time before trick or treating.

I think it was azi describing Halloween in England. We do have isolated instances of children soaping windows and rolling yards here, as well. We have to be careful not to get our car "egged" when we are out trick or treating. We generally know which areas to avoid and try to get an early start.

My husband's cousin went to watch a Tennesseee Vols football game. Her 10 year old son was so excited. He got to shake hands with Peyton Manning after they had a ceremony to retire his jersey. His Mom was not nearly as thrilled because she says she almost froze to death at the game.


Catherine - Oct 31, 2005 7:10 am (#1446 of 2980)

It was worth renting The Village (and kissing my $3.50 goodbye) just to see Loopy Lupin and Lupin is Lupin argue over this film again. It's also amusing to see my ability to suspend my "disbelief" (good one, Loopy) debated.

As for the desert island movie picks, I still really like the movie Jerry Maguire. One can find a quote to cover nearly any situation from that movie. Our personal favorites are "The human head weighs eight pounds;" "I'm cloaked in failure;" "Mistake--meant something else;" "The things we think but do not say;" and "These fish have manners."

Mr. Catherine is on my bad list. The girls and I slept in this morning, as today is a teacher workday. While we were sleeping, Mr. Catherine took all of the Halloween candy I bought for trick-or-treating tonight! He took every bag of candy into work for his college students. It was rather bizarre to wake up and see that six bags of candy had seemingly disappeared overnight.

I was planning to sample a few of those candy bars today just to make sure that they were fit to give out. How disappointing...


DJ Evans - Oct 31, 2005 9:59 am (#1447 of 2980)


Hello everyone... Yikes believe it or not, it's me for those who remember me -- I know it's been like 13 (hee hee good number for today, right?) lifetimes since I last posted but I just couldn't let my favorite holiday slip by without wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. I have been keeping up with everyone though (lurking in the background ) -- I know I should post. Sorry ***wanders off with head hanging down***

Later, Deb


Ydnam96 - Oct 31, 2005 10:06 am (#1448 of 2980)

Catherine. I'd say that you should make Mr. Catherine go after work and stand in the crazy lines and fight with people over the last bags of candy to replace those that you have already purchased Wink

As far as desert island movies. How could anyone NOT take Lord of the Rings? Extended edition of course. I mean, that's like 30 hours of watching pleasure right there (including all the extra stuff on the other disks). And Pirates. That one is a must. Smile My favorite line "But why's the rum gone?". haha I guess it's only funny because of the way he said it.

But I do think the best line in a movie ever is from Fools Rush In: "You are everything I never knew I always wanted". Amazing, guys, this is a great line (as long as you mean it).

As far as Halloween. We didn't celebrate much as kids. We were allowed to dress up in only "nice" things. Some years we just went to church events, other years we were allowed to trick or treat (depended on where we lived that year; some places were not safe to trick or treat- mostly we were allowed when we lived on Base and not out in civilian areas).

Tonight here in the living area I am in charge of at the college we are having a big carnival called Hollah-Ween. It should be fun. All the typical little kids games, but for college kids. Throwing darts at balloons, pie throwing, the one where you toss the "fishing line" over the sheet and someone attaches small candies to your line, bobbing for apples, bake sale, costume contest. All the fun stuff. I'm actually kinda excited.

Anybody see if there was an update on JK's site?


septentrion - Oct 31, 2005 10:22 am (#1449 of 2980)

Hi all ! Like DJ Evans, it's been ages since I posted on this thread. I hope all those who celebrate Halloween have a great time. It's not a big deal here although I've spotted bunches of kids tricking and treating when I left work and surely some will ring on my door before long.


Puck - Oct 31, 2005 10:44 am (#1450 of 2980)

Happy Halloween! Darth Vader and my Tiger Princess (I said it was too cold for princess dress, so we compromised that she can wear it over the Tiger costume) are quite excited. The pumpkin is cute, but has no clue what's going on, and is happy so long as I keep her fed!

To show my sappy side, I'd have "An Affair to Remember" on my dessert island. Most romantic movie ever!

And, as turned on the TV yesterday to see the last 2 minutes of the Goonies, and thought of you.

Question for Mike; how long is GoF likely to be in theaters? My in-laws were supposed to be out beginning of December, have have postponed until the first week of January. Think I can wait to take advantage of the babysitting?

Trick-or-treat, and watch out for Trolls!

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Denise P. - Oct 31, 2005 10:59 am (#1451 of 2980)

According to IMDB, GoF has a running time of 157 minutes.


Gina R Snape - Oct 31, 2005 11:27 am (#1452 of 2980)

Hey, everyone.

And here's a little pumpkin carving site for you... http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/pumpkin_sim.html


Loopy Lupin - Oct 31, 2005 11:38 am (#1453 of 2980)

It was worth renting The Village (and kissing my $3.50 goodbye) just to see Loopy Lupin and Lupin is Lupin argue over this film again. It's also amusing to see my ability to suspend my "disbelief" (good one, Loopy) debated. – Catherine

I knew there had to be some sort of ulterior motive because I can't imagine you would have rented it for viewing pleasure.

Denise-- What do you mean that "word" never reached you about The Village . I've been railing about this movie for over a year! ***dawns on Loopy that perhaps Denise "skims" his post****

Kim-- I'll give you Signs . I did figure that movie out early on, but it wasn't M. Night's fault. By the time I saw it, I had heard so much about the "amazing ending" that I just couldn't help it. Still, it was good. Signs I even liked too, but Squidmike is 100% correct that the plot holes were huge enough to drive a space ship through. Well, that is unless you are an alien race who've mastered intergalactic travel, but for some reason still need cornfields to guide you in for a landing. But, the holes in that movie didn't bother me until afterward. I'll tolerate plot holes as long as they don't bother me during the movie. The Village , however, is just plain awful and I want my money back.

And, so what if Catherine wants a Tom Cruise movie or two on a desert island? With Mr. Cruise it's easy to suspend disbelief depending on what you are trying to avoid believing. I like War of the Worlds because I could suspend my belief that Mr. Cruise is crazy.


Catherine - Oct 31, 2005 11:52 am (#1454 of 2980)

I knew there had to be some sort of ulterior motive because I can't imagine you would have rented it for viewing pleasure. --Loopy Lupin

Knowing as I do how much you hated that movie made me giggle while I watched it. Truly, I do not regret my $3.50; it was worth it to finally feel like I could "take sides" about The Village. In its own way, it proved to be real entertainment. In addition, I gambled that you may have been too harsh in your evaluation of this film.

You win some, you lose some.

EDIT: I like War of the Worlds because I could suspend my belief that Mr. Cruise is crazy. --Loopy Lupin

Oh, does that mean that aliens aren't real?


Denise P. - Oct 31, 2005 11:54 am (#1455 of 2980)

Denise-- What do you mean that "word" never reached you about The Village . I've been railing about this movie for over a year! ***dawns on Loopy that perhaps Denise "skims" his post****

I don't skim your posts I certainly knew everyone said it was a big ole stinker of a movie but no one ever told me why it stunk so badly. Yes, I knew the ending was bad but not the specifics of what made it so bad. But all was not lost... Since I knew it was a crummy movie from the getgo, I put it on subtitles and fast forwarded through the entire thing. You get to see everything, read what is being said but you gain time that you would have otherwise wasted.


Loopy Lupin - Oct 31, 2005 1:18 pm (#1456 of 2980)

I certainly knew everyone said it was a big ole stinker of a movie but no one ever told me why it stunk so badly.—Denise

That is always the dilemma when you have a clunker. Manners still dictate that you not give away the ending or too much of the plot, no matter how inane or stroke-inducingly bad either may be.


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Oct 31, 2005 1:41 pm (#1457 of 2980)

As far as desert island movies. How could anyone NOT take Lord of the Rings? Extended edition of course.---Ydnam96

*****raises hands, waves them vigorously***** The next time I watch that trilogy I'll know I'm in Purgatory.


Marie E. - Oct 31, 2005 1:46 pm (#1458 of 2980)

I laughed at the idea of calling ourselves "Lexies". It was a long standing joke in the chatroom that I had named my youngest after the Lexicon. Never mind that she was born in 1999.

Speaking of Miss Lexie...for the second school day in a row she waved goodbye and left me with no tears and arm-grabbing. So, Lexie's adjustment to Mommy walking her to school=11 weeks of school.

Since I mentioned Lexie's teacher conference I'll put in a small mention about Shayla's. It was probably the best conference for her since kindergarten. She got mostly B's (thank goodness 3rd through 5th have "normal grades"), one C+ for not turning in all her work, and two A's. Huge relief compared to last year.

**crossing fingers for no snow tonight**


CatherineHermiona - Oct 31, 2005 1:55 pm (#1459 of 2980)

I was at one site that is especially for selectors and polls. I went to Harry Potter selectors and I found ten on theme Which HP character are you? and, of course, I made all ten and took average. I took top five from all ten and I made top ten selection of all ten thread. Scoring was: 1st place-10 points, 2nd place-8 points, 3rd place-6 points, 4th place-4 points, 5th place-2 points.

And results are:
1. Albus Dumbledore with 38 points, twice 1st on top five list, 5 of 10 times he was on list
2. Hermione Granger with 36 points, twice 1st on top five list, 6 of 10 times she was on list
3. Harry Potter with 36 points, twice 1st on top five list, 5 of 10 times on list
4. Remus J. Lupin with 22 points, twice 1st on top five list, 3 of 10 times on list
5. Fred and George Weasley, I'm really happy about this one, as I really want to be as them, 18 points, never first, 6 of 10 times on list
6. Rubeus Hagrid, 18 points, never first, 3 of 10 times on list
7. Ginny Weasley, 16 points, never first, 3 of 10 times on list
8. Sirius Black, 16 points, never first, 2 of 10 times on list
9. Ron Weasley, 14 points, never first, 2 of 10 times on list
10. Arthur Weasley, 14 points, never first, 2 0f 10 times on list

Then goes Luna, Cho, Dudley (yes, him), Percy (he too), Cederic, ... Voldemort and Snape were always last two, but once Snape was 6th and Voldemort 13th, on same list Hermione was 14th.



The giant squid - Oct 31, 2005 2:09 pm (#1460 of 2980)

Question for Mike; how long is GoF likely to be in theaters? My in-laws were supposed to be out beginning of December, have have postponed until the first week of January. Think I can wait to take advantage of the babysitting?—Puck

It's really hard to guess, honestly. It depends on your region, how busy your theater usually is with this type of movie, whether the theater gets everything that comes out or splits with another theater, etc. With King Kong coming out on the 16th and Chronicles of Narnia on the 25th, GoF will most likely be down to one screen by the end of December in most theaters. How long it hangs on after that depends on how good it is--i.e. how many repeat viewers it gets.

Booking movies is like predicting the weather--so many variables...

Manners still dictate that you not give away the ending or too much of the plot, no matter how inane or stroke-inducingly bad either may be.--Loopy Lupin

This is true, and is the cause of some consternation on my part whenever anyone asks me how Weather Man or Stay were. Stay wasn't bad, really, there's just a huge plot twist that's hard not to mention when describing the movie. My synopsis always ends up being, "Ewan McGregor plays a psychiatrist who takes over the case of a very troubled young man." That describes maybe the first five minutes, but after that things start to get weird...

Marie: good to hear the girls are doing well in school (or at least with school). Shayla losing points for not turning in her work? Let me guess: her excuse was, "I didn't do it 'cause I already know that stuff."


Happy Hallowe'en to those who care, and to those that don't--Happy Monday!


Loopy Lupin - Oct 31, 2005 2:11 pm (#1461 of 2980)

The next time I watch that trilogy I'll know I'm in Purgatory.--Lupin is Lupin

Sheesh! Someone is a tough cookie!


Viola Intonada - Oct 31, 2005 2:21 pm (#1462 of 2980)

It's great to hear from DJ Evans, Septentrion and Gina. I guess more than just ghosties and goblins come out of the woodwork on Halloween.

I was amazed at the number of Harry Potter related costumes there were at school today. I think there were more than last year. A new book this summer and a movie due out soon must have kept it fresh enough in kids memories this year. Or their parents made them a costume for the book release and said they had to wear it for Halloween or else, as was the case for my child.


Gina R Snape - Oct 31, 2005 2:26 pm (#1463 of 2980)

Thanks, Viola.

I wore my slytherin outfit to work today and my boss remarked how much use I get out of it!


Catherine - Oct 31, 2005 3:32 pm (#1464 of 2980)

Sheesh! Someone is a tough cookie! --Loopy Lupin

Are we commenting on Lupin is Lupin's interest in cooking?

** looks innocent **

Happy Halloween to all. We just finished getting the house ready, and expect some visitors soon. Mr. Catherine will be setting out the dry ice in our "cauldron" soon, so our neighbors will know that we are open for business.

What is very amusing is that we used fake spiderwebs on our columns out front, and Daisy, our younger shih-tzu, has been barking at the door non-stop since we applied them.

I guess she doesn't like spiders.

Have a safe and fun evening, everyone!


Denise P. - Oct 31, 2005 3:34 pm (#1465 of 2980)

Mean mom alert!! One of my kids got the ultimate kid punishment today, second only to no presents at Christmas. He is banned from going out this evening and he will not be sharing in the bounty. Why? The little fiend threw away his retainer. Okay, it is not really a retainer, it is a crossbite/palate expander mouth appliance but it still is called a retainer since it is easier. He has had it for less than a month, we have hammered it into his head to NEVER put it on the lunch table, to put it in the box and into his lunch box. If he forgets his case, put it in a napkin and then into his lunch box. ****:sigh**** He put it in a napkin and left it on the table, where it was promptly thrown away. No one bothered to call to tell me this WHEN IT HAPPENED so that I could go up there and have the pleasant task of digging through the trash. I would have done it because these little pieces of molded plastic and wire are certainly not cheap. Instead, I found out when he burst into tears as soon as he walked in the door.....4 hours after trash had been hauled away from school for the day. I am so not a happy camper right now.


Julie Aronson - Oct 31, 2005 4:33 pm (#1466 of 2980)


What do you say about "Prime?" It seems like a really stupid title, but is the movie OK?


Do you think the little fiend was going for the sympathy vote by bursting into tears?



dizzy lizzy - Oct 31, 2005 4:42 pm (#1467 of 2980)

Denise; Your tale of the "little fiend" and his retainer reminded me of the day I jumped into the local public swimming pool with one Hearing Aid in.

Back in those days I needed to use special tape to keep the actual aid itself behind the ear. On that day I had not taped the aid to my ear and it fell out and sank. I got out of the water and started crying and wailing straight away and boy was my Mum mad!!!!! I can still remember her yelling at me, needless to say she had to yell, I had no hearing aid to hear .

Unfortunately, the pool was one of those old mucky ones and it was impossible to see the aid on the bottom. It took all of (me, 2 sibs, Mum and two cousins) us nearly two hours to find it. We took the aid home and stuck it in a slow oven (with the door open) overnight and it was right as rain.

Hope everyone has a wonderful day today.



I Am Used Vlad - Oct 31, 2005 5:25 pm (#1468 of 2980)

I don't think I posted much about The Village when it came out. My big problem with the movie was that M. Night likes to pretend he is Alfred Hitchcock and appear in his films. To me, that made the big, surprise, stupid ending pretty easy to figure out early on. Also, when the most suspenseful scene in a movie involves someone trying to steal medicine out of a cabinet, or whatever was going on at the end, it's probably just not that good.


Denise P. - Oct 31, 2005 6:34 pm (#1469 of 2980)

I think the little fiend burst into tears because he knew that I was going to blow a gasket as soon as I heard. He had been threatened with death about leaving it on the lunch table so he knew that I would not be pleased. His teacher was more concerned about Devin. "He was really upset" Well, yeah, you think? Of course he was upset, he realized that he was in deep, deep trouble. Little fiend did go out but to add injury to insult, all candy collected goes to the older brother who stayed home to pass candy out. Little Fiend did the work but doesn't reap the rewards. (Yes, he will end up with some but not for days)


Finn BV - Oct 31, 2005 6:43 pm (#1470 of 2980)

What a sad story Denise! We've got plenty of candy left over here – I think we had in total 25 kids, but only in about 6 groups! We have about 150 packs of candy – what a bad turnout! If the Little Fiend can hitch his way up to New York, we'd certainly let him in for the night… I might just have to go trick-or-treating at my house later tonight. As I said, I finished Halloween costuming three years ago. Now I go as a candy-giver. I know, I know. Can you spell L-A-M-E?

Kate, you should post your results on the Which HP character thread are you? too. Near the bottom of the main forum page.


Ydnam96 - Oct 31, 2005 10:51 pm (#1471 of 2980)

All I have to say is: too much candy...
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Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 1, 2005 12:11 am (#1472 of 2980)


So, I had a small stroke of genius today, and just had to share it with everyone!! Recently, Aaron's been kinda down because he's going to miss the opening of GoF, and he didn't have enough room to pack all this HP books, so he feels cut off from HP completely. So today I was at the store and I thought to myself, "I promised to send Aaron cookies sometime, so I should probably do that now!" So, I walked to the dairy section to get that pre-made dough (I know it's cheating, but I am a broke college student who can't afford to buy all the ingredients and make the cookies from scratch!!) When I got there, I saw these pre-made, pre-cut sugar cookies in Halloween shapes. I picked them up and was about to get them when I realized, that (duh!) Halloween was TODAY, and by the time these got to Aaron, it would be close to the middle of November. Then it hit me! I'll buy the Halloween cookies, and make them into HP cookies! The cookies are shaped like witch's hats, ghosts, pumpkins, and bats. So, I bought them and black, and white frosting. I made the cookies and just got done "HP-izing" them. There were four hats, so I frosted each one black and then used white to put "H", "R", "S", and "G" on them for each house. Then I frosted all the ghosts white and put the initials to all the ghosts on them. There's the Bloody Baron, the Fat Friar, Moaning Myrtle, Peeves (I know he's not a ghost, but it was the best I could do), the Gray Lady, and, best of all...one of the ghost cookies' head broke off when I was taking it off the baking sheet, so (of course) I frosted it back on and made that one Nearly-Headless Nick! How perfect is that?!!? then I frosted the bats and pumpkins and wrote him a note explaining all the initials and that the pumpkins were straight from Hagrid's pumpkin patch and the bats were from the Forbidden Forest! I think that should help him get over his HP withdrawal just a bit!

I know that was long-winded, but I was just so excited about my HP cookies, and I figured, who better to tell the story to then you guys, right?!? Anyway, I'm off to check the threads and then it's time for bed for me!! (It's after 2 a.m. here already!!) I hope everyone had a great Halloween! (and a great Monday for those of you who don't celebrate Halloween!!)



The giant squid - Nov 1, 2005 3:20 am (#1473 of 2980)

Mike, What do you say about "Prime?" It seems like a really stupid title, but is the movie OK?--Julie Aronson

I didn't screen it myself, but the guys who did have very little good to say about it. Weird subplots that take over the film, slow moving and, well, Meryl Streep, all add up to a thumbs down from the crew (or it would, if that weren't a trademarked phrase). Luckily for all involved, this marked the end of the "fall season" where the studios put out all the stuff they know wouldn't make money over the summer.

Jenn, that was a cool idea with the cookies. And Denise, no matter how much Little Fiend whines, I think his punishment fits the crime (although having to wear a spacer is almost punishment enough itself).



Catherine - Nov 1, 2005 6:05 am (#1474 of 2980)

Denise, I agree with you that Devin or his teacher should have 'fessed up to the retainer-tossing right away. In "my" classroom, we had a phone right there. I certainly would have allowed a child to call his parent in that instance. In fact, my daughters' elementary school has a phone extension in the cafeteria.

While no one enjoys dumpster diving, I know from my own elementary and middle school days that the appliance could have been found if they'd just looked when it happened. I remember more than one child desperately rooting through the trash trying to find his retainer.

Poor little fiends...


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Nov 1, 2005 6:40 am (#1475 of 2980)

Devin 'oops' the retainer, Denise cancels Halloween, and I'm the tough cookie?

I stand by what I said regarding The Lord of the Rings trilogy. They'll never stand the test of time. But unfortunately, they'll be preserved on DVD forever.


Chemyst - Nov 1, 2005 7:01 am (#1476 of 2980)

I still wear a retainer roughly every other night. (I'm getting old enough now and my teeth are so straight that I've had folks exclaim, "You've got your real teeth!" They thought I'd had dentures made that looked so natural. ) Anyway, the orthodontist where I had this retainer made has printed instructions that tell his mostly teen clients to never wrap their retainer in a napkin, but always use the case. Napkin-wrapping is the most common reason he makes replacements.
 ... ah, the things you can learn here. Anyway Denise, your kid isn't the first and he won't be the last. And I agree with Mike, the forking over a major percentage of candy and waiting a day to collect on what remains seems like it is an appropriate "payment" to improve his fessing up at once. Learning to "come clean" and admit it as soon as you know is the most important lesson here.

Jenn, I'm wondering now, does Aaron like HP for HP's sake, or more because you make it so fun for him?


haymoni - Nov 1, 2005 7:24 am (#1477 of 2980)

I had visions of "Parenthood" where Steve Martin and Mary Steen-whatever are digging through the trash when their son throws out his retainer at the restaurant.

Poor kid! Imagine having to sit through the rest of the day at school knowing that your mom was going to kill you when you got home! I wonder if that teacher knew how much those things cost?

All these great clips - the dementors here at work have everything blocked. I can't get to anything that links to Mugglenet or Veritaserum. When I get home, I have to fight 2 kids for the computer so my viewing time is very limited.

Hope you all have a great November 1.


kaykay1970 - Nov 1, 2005 9:40 am (#1478 of 2980)

I just talked to my sister. Her daughter's heart surgery has been scheduled for November 29. I should have known it was just wishful thinking that it could wait awhile.


Puck - Nov 1, 2005 10:46 am (#1479 of 2980)

Catherine, my neighbor has a Jack Russel that barks at our scarecrow. Nice to know there is a guard dog nearby!

My kids went out with Dad and were allowed 3 treats upon arriving home. Parker was thrilled to answer the door. Still have a bowl left. S'mores bars are yummy!

My boy fell and slammed his head on the way into lunch yesterday, and spent lunch in the nurse's office. He's 5, and I got neither a call nor a note. I know only because I asked about how he managed to eat all his lunch for once (he ate during rest time, so he ate instead of chatting with friends like he does in the cafeteria.) So, yes Denise, I agree that their needs to be better communication.

Kaykay, will keep your niece in mind!

Thanks, Mike. Perhaps I should just get a sitter, if I find one willing to take on 3 kids.



Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 1, 2005 1:34 pm (#1480 of 2980)

Hey everyone!

Kathy, that's terrible that no one called you about your son. I remember when I was in elementary school, I fell down the stairs and twisted my ankle and the nurse called my mom at work to tell her! And I was 10! I can't believe they wouldn't call mom for a 5 year-old hitting their head!

Jenn, I'm wondering now, does Aaron like HP for HP's sake, or more because you make it so fun for him? –Chemyst

Well Chemyst, most of the time I think he's an HP fan for HP's sake, but sometimes I wonder. I was the one who got him started on the books. He used to call me when he was stationed in Cuba, and I'd make him listen to me read PS/SS over the phone to him. After the first few chapters he was hooked, so I sent him copies of PS/SS and CoS. He's been hooked ever since. But, every now and then I wonder if part of the reason he likes them so much is because I get so excited about them. Who knows.

Well, I'm off to check the threads. Have a great day everyone!



Loopy Lupin - Nov 1, 2005 1:56 pm (#1481 of 2980)

Let's all send some Cheering Charms to poor Mr. Devin; no trick or treating is quite the punishment. Denise's story reminds me of the Little House on the Prairie episode where some kid got nothing for Christmas for spilling the beans about Santa Claus.


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Nov 1, 2005 2:24 pm (#1482 of 2980)

Loopy watched Little House on the Prairie? I'm.....stunned.


Denise P. - Nov 1, 2005 2:42 pm (#1483 of 2980)

Mr. Devin has a past history of missing Halloween. This is the third year he has missed. One year, he and Ryan decided to flush something to see if it would work. I think he was 6. It got stuck. No amount of work with the plumbing snake would dislodge it. We called a plumber, who could not dislodge it so we had to go buy a new toilet. It happened the night before Halloween so Mr. Denise declared the two involved banned from going out. We had two sad little faces the next night but never had things flushed again. And for those curious, it was a Tarzan action figure from a happy meal. Mr. Denise took a hammer to the bend in the toilet after it was removed to see what caused the problem. The second year he missed was when he was 7. He was actually in the hospital so I carried around his bucket with the other kids. I am sure some adults were thinking "Yeah, sure" when I would hold it up and explain it was for my son in the hospital but it really was.

I called the school today and asked if my emergency numbers were wrong since I never got a call or message yesterday and no one called my other number. The person was quite horrified that no one contacted me immediately when it was missing and said a note would be put on his card to always try the cell number. She has a child with a retainer, who had tossed it as well, so she was almost in sympathy tears.

You know, I laughed at Mary S. and Steve Martin in Parenthood digging through the trash but now I sure understand that motivation.


Catherine - Nov 1, 2005 3:47 pm (#1484 of 2980)

Denise, Devin just seems to have a curse on Halloween just like Harry Potter.

Forgive me for laughing at the Tarzan toilet-replacement story.

Let me register my astonishment that Loopy Lupin watched Little House on the Prairie.


Ydnam96 - Nov 1, 2005 6:18 pm (#1485 of 2980)

Catherine. Love the new avatar Smile Haha


Julie Aronson - Nov 1, 2005 7:34 pm (#1486 of 2980)


Thanks for the warning about "Prime." I won't waste my few valuable movie-watching hours on it, but instead I'll save up for a "GOF"-fest.


I'm sure your daughter is much better now, but our local paper had an article about warm inside temperatures making breathing problems worse. It specifically mentioned asthma, allergies, and croup. The pediatricians interviewed recommended an indoor temperature at 65-70 deg F. An added bonus is reduced heating bills, of course!

Upon further reflection, I think they might be right, because since the heat switched on (I'm keeping it at 65 this year for economic reasons) I haven't had my traditional dry skin, cough, and sore throat yet.




The giant squid - Nov 2, 2005 2:31 am (#1487 of 2980)

Yeah, they always say to keep the thermostat around 68F (20C)...but when you've acclimated to 115F in the summer, 68 feels like I might as well sit in the freezer. Mind you, this is from the guy who used to do the nightly meat counts at the restaurant I worked at in Georgia without a coat "because there's no wind". The desert has sapped my cold tolerance!



haymoni - Nov 2, 2005 7:08 am (#1488 of 2980)

Hmm... toilet flushing...

Ungrateful Son (yes, he has once again earned the title! He's 12 - enough said!) once blamed the Red Power Ranger for flushing half a banana with the peel still on down our ONLY toilet. We tried to snake it, but it didn't work. We had to take the thing apart.

That's when we found that the Red Power Ranger also liked to flush "C" batteries - four of them!!!


Madam Pince - Nov 2, 2005 7:22 am (#1489 of 2980)

Yeah, because a banana should've....

Well, never mind........


kaykay1970 - Nov 2, 2005 11:32 am (#1490 of 2980)

This was posted on another forum. I thought I should share it with all of you. For those of you that live in the U.S., anybody can get your driver license info on-line. I went and had mine removed to protect my privacy. Here is the link if you wish to do the same- http://www.license.shorturl.com/


Puck - Nov 2, 2005 12:03 pm (#1491 of 2980)

Jenn has me thinking, does anyone know where I can buy HP cookie cutters?

Devin should learn to keep out of trouble until November 1!

I was a "Little House" junky, and I don't remember that episode. Sure it wasn't the Waltons?

As a New England girl I'm always surprised that anyone sets their thermostat above 68. Hubby's midwest relatives turn up the heat instead of putting on a sweater in the house, and I can't quite figure that out. We're down to 67 during day, and 61 at night.

Cheers! Kathy


Loopy Lupin - Nov 2, 2005 12:03 pm (#1492 of 2980)

LOL Kaykay

I was a "Little House" junky, and I don't remember that episode. Sure it wasn't the Waltons? – Puck

Not 100% sure except that I was assuredly not a Waltons junkie. I believe it was the Christmas show in the later years of the series where they are all snowed in and telling stories of Christmas past.


kaykay1970 - Nov 2, 2005 12:23 pm (#1493 of 2980)

Sorry Loopy, couldn't resist. Yes, it was Little House. Almonso(sp.) Wilder told a story about taking his younger brother to the barn and showing him all the presents. I was a Little House junkie as well.


haymoni - Nov 2, 2005 1:02 pm (#1494 of 2980)

Our thermostat is at 60 degrees. We can heat our house with our wood burner. Haven't had to do it yet - we've got lots of sweaters.

I worked with a woman who told me that in college if she and her roommates skipped church, they would atone for their sin by watching an episode of "The Waltons". They rationalized that each episode of "The Waltons" told a moral story and it was just as good as going to church.

Of course this never worked when they were home on break...


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Nov 2, 2005 1:50 pm (#1495 of 2980)

As a New England girl I'm always surprised that anyone sets their thermostat above 68.---Puck

As a New England girl myself, I'm always surprised when people turn on their heat before November 1st. Wimps!


Catherine - Nov 2, 2005 2:42 pm (#1496 of 2980)

As a New England girl myself, I'm always surprised when people turn on their heat before November 1st. Wimps! --Lupin is Lupin

** guilty expression **

Erm, some of us down South have thin blood? ** confesses that I turned the heat on when the forecast said it would be 38 degrees a few nights ago **

Even when I didn't turn the heat on, it was so cold in our house the other morning after nighttime lows of 42 that I turned the gas fireplace on for a bit so that I could thaw out. I confess to feeling cold when the thermostat reads below 66 degrees Fahrenheit. I wore my coat indoors all weekend, much to my husband's amusement (he's from Delaware, and thinks that I am a wimp about cold weather).


Loopy Lupin - Nov 2, 2005 2:52 pm (#1497 of 2980)

Well, at least in this part of Virginia, heat is required to be on in apartment buildings as of October 1.


Viola Intonada - Nov 2, 2005 3:09 pm (#1498 of 2980)

We have had our heat on for a couple of weeks now. (Ever since the temp. dropped to 45 at night) Hubby was born on the coldest day in February in North Dakota, poor guy hasn't warmed up since. I'm always teasing him about what a cold wimp he is. This year I don't seem to be taking the cold to well myself, but I'm not admitting that to hubby!

We have lowered our thermostat to 66, we used to keep it at 68.


Herm oh ninny - Nov 2, 2005 4:48 pm (#1499 of 2980)

Hey guys! Wow, it feels like forever since I was last here! School is really killing me! If only I hadn't thrown out my Hogwarts letter....

Well, I just read the 205 posts on this thread (wow are we a chatty bunch!) and I don't know where to begin!

Happy belated birthdays to all that I have missed. Also Happy belated Halloween!

I saw Prime on Friday, it was horrible! Please save your money!!

Jen- that was a great idea with the cookies.

Finn- congrats on your 1st track metal!

Oooooh, I know there was more I wanted to comment on but, 200 posts are too many to remember!

This Saturday is both of my sisters' birthdays. We are going to a fondue restaurant called The Melting Pot. I am excited because we have never had fondue before. Afterwards we are going to go to Caroline's comedy club in Manhattan. I can't wait for the weekend! We also ordered a cake from Coldstone Creamery.....I'm drooling just thinking about it!

Well, I have to go to class now I hope I can get back here soon!


Stephanie M. - Nov 2, 2005 5:29 pm (#1500 of 2980)

Good to see you Herm oh ninny!

Mmmm Coldstone! Very yummy ice cream.

I haven't posted in a while.

Not too much has been happening besides being very busy. The end of the first trimester is near, which means only four things... TESTS, QUIZZES, PROJECTS, AND ESSAYS!

I think we had a total of 10 trick or treaters, which was a horrible turn out because we usually get non stop knocking at the door!

So that's about it. I've been reading along though... Just not enough time to really post.
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Finn BV - Nov 2, 2005 5:51 pm (#1501 of 2980)

LOL kaykay.

I won our sixth and final meet of the year today. And they handed out medals too. I'm quite elated because the pressure is off now! Although I have to go into Freshman XC next year with quite the burden on my shoulders…

I saw the trailer to Prime but it looked really weird. Meryl and Uma are certainly attractions, but I can't say the storyline looked anything interesting.

Adios everyone!


Madam Pince - Nov 2, 2005 7:06 pm (#1502 of 2980)

68 degrees, Viola!!! Lawsy me -- I'd freeze to death! If I had my say, it would be set at 75 year-round. I freely admit to having very thin blood -- a sweater just doesn't do it for me, and I refuse to go around inside my own house looking like the little kid from A Christmas Story in his Michelin-Man suit. This is, of course, a constant source of battle between Mr. Pince and I and is probably the one reason we might get a divorce someday. As soon as he leaves in the morning, I turn the thermostat up (usually to 72, but maybe 74 if I'm feeling rebellious), and as soon as he gets home, he turns it down. I also find that when I'm tired, I feel the cold more, too. I suspect that my thyroid is wonky -- it did weird things when Little Pince was born and that probably contributes, but the Dr. says no worries. He doesn't see me wearing sweats and sweatshirts during the summer when Mr. P has the A/C cranked up, though. I can honestly say that I don't ever remember a time in my life when I have ever been too hot, but plenty of times when I've been cold. I once told an employer who made fun of me for wanting a spaceheater in my office that I didn't care what else I had to do without, I would pay my electric bill so that I could turn the heat up in my house as high as I pleased. He thought I was nuts.

I am a devoted fan of The Waltons and am buying the DVDs as they come out. I figure when Little Pince is old enough to watch "real TV" rather than cartoons, rather than having him watch the stuff that's on now that's not very well-suited for kids, we can always watch re-runs of the Walton clan. One reason I like it so much is that I always felt like I was watching my Mom's family when she was growing up -- there were seven kids, they lived in the mountains of Virginia and grew up during the Depression, and the family ran a sawmill / lumber business. Pretty darn similar!

I liked Little House at the time, but after reading the books, the TV series paled in comparison (although Nellie Olsen still remains as one of the greatest TV villains ever, in my opinion.) I still re-read anything by Laura Ingalls Wilder to this day (she wrote a lot aside from the "Little House" books.) She lived through an extraordinary period of American history and did such a great job of recording it through her observant writing. You'd be surprised how often her tidbits of "prairie wisdom" I end up using in my everyday life even today!

Congrats on the track and field medals, Finn! Woo-hoo!

Good idea on the cookies, Jenn! Aaron will be very pleased, I'm sure!

Way to go, Shayla and Lexie, for doing so great in school! You must be doing something right, Marie!

Denise, great parenting job on the Halloween thing! Mean Moms Unite! LOL. Actually I haven't had to be too mean lately; Little Pince has been well aware of Halloween. But I'm convinced he is in training to be a lawyer -- I told him not to touch the candy until after dinner, and then he went all "wide-eyed" on me when I caught him holding a Milky Way bar. He said quite earnestly "I didn't touch the candy, Mom, I was only just touching the paper."


Viola Intonada - Nov 2, 2005 7:36 pm (#1503 of 2980)

Hubby keeps a space heater at his desk at work. He also keeps a jacket at his desk year round (so he can wear it in the summer when they over-aircondition the office)

Tonight at dinner, we were both shivering. We may pay the extra money to turn it up a couple of degrees. Meanwhile our children are sitting there in short sleeves looking at us like we are nuts for being cold. Alas, to be a kid again and not be bothered by being cold.

Way to stick to your guns, Denise. My kids have been fighting a lot lately. I told them if they fight any this week, half of their candy is mine. I'll keep taking half of what they have left every time they fight. They have been behaving much better since Halloween. (Dash it all, the one time I was looking forward to carrying out my threat! )


kaykay1970 - Nov 2, 2005 8:53 pm (#1504 of 2980)

I was only touching the paper. That is so cute!!


Amilia Smith - Nov 2, 2005 9:22 pm (#1505 of 2980)

Welcome, Tazzygirl. Woo-hoo!!! I have another forumer near me now!

They keep the air-conditioning on way too much in Hamilton Library, where I work. The thermometer says it is only down to 65, but we don't believe it. You should see us. We all bring jackets and hoodies in to work. One of my co-workers insists on sitting near the wall so that she can plug her heating pad in. And our noses still turn bright red and start dripping. I tell you, it doesn't take long for your blood to thin.



Tazzygirl - Nov 2, 2005 11:14 pm (#1506 of 2980)

Wow Amilia! I thought I was the only one here in Hawaii. How many other people are here in Hawaii? How much longer are you at UH? I was born in Utah, but I only lived there until I was 6. How long have you been out here? Hamilton Library is really cold- wait, so are the classrooms now that I think about it. There is a classroom up in George Hall that seems to be in the negatives. You think they would set the thermostat to a more comfortable temperature. At least Hamilton has an excuse- keep it cold so the books don't get all mildewy! Smile


The giant squid - Nov 3, 2005 12:36 am (#1507 of 2980)

Puck, like I said, when the average temps over the last few months have been in the 90s, 68 is just too cold. When I was growing up in North Dakota, I'd be running around in a t-shirt at that point; now they only come out to be worn under my work shirts...

Madame Pince, it's a known fact that the two things married couples argue about most are money & the thermostat. I keep seeing these ads for a dating service that boasts "29 degrees of compatibility"; I wonder if one of those is "temperature comfort zone"?



Catherine - Nov 3, 2005 5:50 am (#1508 of 2980)

He said quite earnestly "I didn't touch the candy, Mom, I was only just touching the paper." --Madame Pince

I think Baby Pince and Hayley will have to set up a law practice together. If confronted about misbehavior, Hayley will ask, "Did you SEE me do it?" Next thing you know, she will call in an expert witness.

Hayley says quite amusing things all the time. Yesterday after school, she launched into the stories about who got in trouble that day in Kindergarten (this is a favorite topic for Hayley). She said, "Those boys need to be focused on their learning" (this was a common phrase from her Montessori preschool). Yesterday, Hayley said, "They are not focused on their learning; they are focused on being 'astracted' (distracted)."

Poor Hayley was offended when I laughed at her paradoxical statement. But I knew exactly how those boys were acting if they were "focused on distraction." Unfortunately, sometimes I feel like I am focused upon distraction....


Lina - Nov 3, 2005 7:05 am (#1509 of 2980)

Yesterday I caught my 6 year old in a lie. I really can't stand lying or a feeling that I couldn't believe my kid, and I'm not used to her lying, so we had a little talk. I asked her: "How about telling me the truth?" She said: "I don't understand it. Could you explain me what does the truth mean?"


Loopy Lupin - Nov 3, 2005 7:15 am (#1510 of 2980)

I don't understand it. Could you explain me what does the truth mean? –Lina

I think I spent three semesters of graduate school trying to answer that question.


Madam Pince - Nov 3, 2005 7:25 am (#1511 of 2980)

Lina, that's so funny! I've been trying to explain that same abstract concept to Little Pince, too! It's one of the things about parenting that you don't really think about until your kid really sincerely asks you something that they don't understand. It would never occur to me to have to explain to someone what "truth" is, until I realized that of course a 3-year-old wouldn't know. So I tried saying, "Well, it's when you aren't telling a fib, then you're telling the truth." Naturally, next came "What's a fib?" OK, start over. "Truth is when you say something that is correct." Blank look. "Or when you say something that is right." Then I got "Right like my shoe?" (We're working on left vs. right.) Ummmmmm.... no not quite. It's like playing that board game "Taboo" where you try to give clues to a word without using the words that are most closely associated with that word. Arrrrghhh.... This parenting thing is over my head sometimes....

Catherine, Hayley sounds so adorable! Has she seen The Incredibles by any chance? When that kid was confronted about something he did at school, the Mom said "You SAW him do this?" and he ended up getting out of it. Maybe Hayley thinks if it worked for Dash, it might work for her! And the "'astracted" is too cute! It's so funny when they get the words almost right! I try to look at it as a mind exercise for me to keep me from getting Alzheimer's as I try to figure out what word he's trying to say -- they are pretty funny sometimes!

Edit: I think I spent three semesters of graduate school trying to answer that question.

LOL, Loopy! And I love your avatar -- go Seabiscuit! Another weepy movie for me... at the end I thought the former jockey was just holding back so Seabiscuit could beat at least one horse and would feel good about himself, and that started the flood.

Edit again: I'm so glad Tazzy and Mills found each other! I soooo wanted to post in the "Introduce" thread and tell Tazzy "Ooh, Oooh, you have to meet Mills!"


Ydnam96 - Nov 3, 2005 9:48 am (#1512 of 2980)

I have nothing relevant to say, I don't have children and well my cat hasn't learned to lie just yet Wink I think he's still a little young for that. He's only 3. Although he does give me that "you can't prove it was me" look sometimes.

Speaking of kitty. He's been throwing up again. I know it's nothing serious, he just has a sensitive tummy. But my whole apartment is carpet and it's hard to clean up. You know, I thought a cat would be easier than a kid...

Well...I should get ready for work. Have a great Thursday.


T Brightwater - Nov 3, 2005 10:06 am (#1513 of 2980)

Mandy, I feel your pain; I have two 18-year-old Siamese and they get hairballs no matter how often we brush them. Also, they seem to prefer upchucking on carpet or upholstery instead of linoleum. :-(

Lina and Madame Pince, when you figure out how to explain truth to your kids, would you mind taking a little trip to Washington DC and explaining it to a few more people?

Madame Pince, what part of VA? My (adoptive) father's family was from around Bassett and he grew up around the same time.


Catherine - Nov 3, 2005 10:10 am (#1514 of 2980)

Although he does give me that "you can't prove it was me" look sometimes. –Ydnam

My Daisy tried that last week. I got home from work and there was an unholy mess in the bathroom. Someone had shredded the tissues from the trash can into teensy confetti bits. What was amusing is that both dogs were in their dogbed, and sleeping in the same position they had assumed before I left for work.

Daisy raised her head to greet me, and there was a piece of tissue stuck to her face. She acted so innocent, but the evidence suggested otherwise.

Of course, Phoebe may have plotted to frame Daisy for this crime.


azi - Nov 3, 2005 10:17 am (#1515 of 2980)

Woohoo, I have premium membership-ness! Discovered a friend had paypal...couldn't resisit...

Hope your cat gets better soon, Ydnam! I can't think of anything to suggest other than covering the whole of the carpet with some wipable plastic or something, and that's a silly idea really!

Kids say the funniest things. I don't have any examples, except my little cousin's reaction to discovering the concept of cremation at a funeral - 'You can't bake her, she'll burn!' (she was told that the person would be baked in a big oven). Morbid, but I couldn't help laughing to myself.

Congrats Finn! I'm sure you'll live up to your reputation next year!

Horrible weather today, and a bad day also. I was forced to go up to the blackboard in maths to write the answer to an equation, even though I told the teacher I didn't know the answer or how to work it out. I was in tears by the end of the lesson.

Hopefully everyone will have a much better day than that!


Lina - Nov 3, 2005 10:21 am (#1516 of 2980)

Loopy Lupin: I think I spent three semesters of graduate school trying to answer that question.

Lol, Loopy. Somehow, I didn't feel like I had the time to wait for her to go to the graduate school and then spend three semesters looking for the answer, so I had to do something immediately... I asked her, should I go to the teacher to ask what happened? She said: "No." So I asked her to tell me what would the teacher tell me if I asked her. Well, I explained, this is the truth. It was cute, actually, because she didn't try to lie when she was supposed to tell the teachers version, maybe because she knew that I could ask her. Madam Pince, my husband told me that he read somewhere that the kids up to the age of 5, actually never lie. I don't know if that is the truth or if he interpreted it correctly, but something like they don't see the purpose of lie, if they don't say the truth, that's just because of the imagination, not because they want to gain something by telling the lie. As a matter of fact, that is the age that I had to deal with the subject with each of my girls. I usually tell them: "I'm used to believe you when you tell me something, I would like it to remain this way." Then I spend some time in checking everything they tell me and it usually helps. Except with one kid that liked to go back to lying from time to time, not that I see the reason for that. I had to make a really big threat to make it stop. I just hope it worked. So, if little Pince doesn't understand the concept of truth, it seems normal for his age.

Ooooh, I really didn't plan to make such a long post when I started! Sorry! I just got carried away...

Edit: Woohoo, congratulations, Azi! And healing charms to your kitty, Mandy!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 3, 2005 11:21 am (#1517 of 2980)

I don't have much to say on the children telling lies subject, as I don't have kids, but good luck to all of you trying to explain it to them!!

Finn, congrats on yet another CX win! That's awesome! and don't worry, I'm sure you'll have no problem living up to your reputation next year!

Mandy, I hope your cat starts feeling better. But I know how hard it is to clean up the carpet after a sick cat. I have two cats (at home at my parent's house) and they get sick a LOT!

So I got some awesome news this afternoon. The Channel 3 news up in Cleveland (ABC's local branch there I believe) is doing this thing called Salute to Service for Christmas. Family and friends of service men & women over in Iraq can tape Christmas greetings for them and Channel 3 will send the tapes over to them. Anyway, there was a very limited number of taping slots and I got a call this afternoon that I got one! The man who called said that I could bring anyone I wanted to with me, such as Aaron's family or some of his other friends. I was thinking maybe I'd try to get on his mother's good side, by inviting her and his sisters to come with me. I know it would mean a lot to him if they came with me. Now the hard part is just getting up the nerve to call and ask her!!

Not really too much else to say. Have a good day everyone!!



Puck - Nov 3, 2005 11:58 am (#1518 of 2980)

I admit, though usually we try to wait until November, we did turn the heat on a couple of weeks back. We would have suffered through, but the house was down to 55 degrees, which seemed too cold for a newborn. I had her in onsie, with a sleeper over that, and leggings and a fleece sweater covering the lot.

My son told his first lie around age five. Told me he had eaten all his fruit, and was ready for dessert. He seemed to have eaten quickly, so I asked if I should look in the trash can and got "NO! DON'T!" I let him know it's wrong to lie, and Mommy will always catch him. He's been truthful since.

I get to go out to dinner with friends tonight, so excited. Natalie is coming too, so they can meet her. (One is driving up from New Jersey.) Daddy is just not ready for 3 kids on his own at bedtime.

Well, I hear a basket of laundry calling me- it's been waiting a couple of days to be folded.

Oh, and just to be a total geek, Almanzo was the youngest of the Wilder Brothers. It must have been Royal who lost the presents.



Madam Pince - Nov 3, 2005 12:13 pm (#1519 of 2980)

Jenn, that's great! What a wonderful holiday gift to send to Aaron! Great opportunity to score major points with "Mom" too, no less.

Azi, congrats on the star! And the great avatar! Is that you?

Puck, have fun with your dinner tonight!

Little Pince has already done that bit with me -- I ask him something like "Did you finish your snack?" And he says "Yes" and then when I say "Great! Let me just go and see your nice clean plate!" and he runs in front of me going "No, no no!!!" Soooooo.... Lina, unfortunately I think he already knows when he's fibbing, he just wasn't exactly sure what it was called! Actually, that was a good learning opportunity -- I turned it into "Now, see, when you told me that, that was a fib, and that was wrong. It's very bad and makes Mommy and Daddy very sad. Don't ever do it again." Sigh.... it's neverending I guess.

Just like hairballs -- also never-ending..... I miss my kitty-cat so much (he died right before Little Pince was born) but the one thing I don't miss is stepping in the hairballs in the dark...

LOL about poor Daisy with the tell-tale tissue stuck to her face! A dog just can't get away with anything these days!

I don't remember the Royal / Almanzo Christmas story -- Farmer Boy was my least favorite of the series and so I re-read it less often. It sounds about like them, though.


Julie Aronson - Nov 3, 2005 1:33 pm (#1520 of 2980)


FYI, Channel 3 is the local NBC affiliate.



Tazzygirl - Nov 3, 2005 1:48 pm (#1521 of 2980)

The series of Little House on the Prairie is waaaaaay different than the books- I am also a die hard fan. Smile The brother that Almanzo showed the christmas presents to was not Royal- it was another brother according to the show. Farmer boy was also my least favorite. Don't have cats or kids- but I am a nanny to a two year old girl and a six month old boy. Neither one has the telling a lie down yet! One can only hope... Smile


haymoni - Nov 3, 2005 1:50 pm (#1522 of 2980)

Jenn - you might want to call his mom and let her think that you did this for HER.

A news station will send a tape to Aaron of his family and friends. I thought of you and thought you might like to do it and YOU WON!!!

The only problem is that she could take the opportunity and not include you, but you could let Aaron know later that it was all your doing!


Denise P. - Nov 3, 2005 2:45 pm (#1523 of 2980)

Madam Pince, that Christmas story was never recounted in either the Little House series of books or in any of the several biographies I have read of Laura Ingalls Wilder. Probably like a good portion of the tv series, it was pure TV. (Mary...married...with a baby??!!! Don't get me started on Albert. And Almanzo called her Bess or Bessie, not Beth...)

I actually liked Farmer Boy and I even have a Little House Cookbook. You know ginger water, that Laura raves about being such a wonderful treat? Blech!!! I have made the snow candy too. Blech!! Part of it is that today, our tastebuds are so used to a load of refined sugar that the coarse sugars used back then don't taste as sweet to us.


Finn BV - Nov 3, 2005 2:50 pm (#1524 of 2980)

Jenn, that's great! What a great present for Aaron!

Azi, congrats on the pretty little star next to your name!

Tazzygirl, I do believe Mills also grew up in Utah unless I'm much mistaken…

Not much to say here, have a good evening, all!


Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 3, 2005 3:25 pm (#1525 of 2980)

Thanks Julie! I couldn't remember which it was and all the channels are different down here in Columbus!

Haymoni, you're probably right about letting Aaron's mom think this is for her. But I'd hate to think she'd take all the credit. But, I wouldn't put it past her! I think I may just have to suck it up and take my chances though! I'd really like to get on her good side!

Well, I'm busy chatting it up in the Chat room, so this is all for now!



The giant squid - Nov 3, 2005 3:29 pm (#1526 of 2980)

azi, congrats on your membership, and condolences on your awful day. Why do some teachers insist on publicly embarrassing their students? If, as you said, you clearly had no idea what the answer was and how to get it, what point is there to have you stand in front of the class other than humiliation? Let someone else who does know do it so you can see how it's done. It's the old "honey vs. vinegar" thing.

Jenn, that's great news, and I think haymoni's on the right track to getting Mom in on it. If she does squeeze you out, though, make sure you smile and be polite, and when you tell Aaron keep it nonchalant and all "it's a good thing". The last thing you want to do is bad mouth his mother to him (even if he does it himself). Guys are touchy about that sort of thing.

As for the lying thing... I swear I never fibbed to my parents. But then, I could be lying now...you never know.



Amilia Smith - Nov 3, 2005 3:53 pm (#1527 of 2980)

Hey, Tazzy! As far as I know, we are the only ones out here. And I've only been here since May. I was so excited to see that there was another forumer in Hawaii!

Congrats on your gold star, Azi.

Great Christmas present, Jenn.

And I have class in 7 minutes, so I will see you all later. :-)



Tazzygirl - Nov 3, 2005 4:03 pm (#1528 of 2980)

Mills- Are you going to the midnight showing of GoF?

Denise P.- I had the same reaction to Mary being married and with a baby as you did. (shaking head). And the way Laura and Almanzo met and got married- talk about way off the books!


Stephanie M. - Nov 3, 2005 4:12 pm (#1529 of 2980)

Wow, we have been very chatty today!

First off, Congrats on the pretty little gold star next to your name Azi! And too bad about your math experience.

Today I spent 2 hours and 20 mins doing math IN SCHOOL! Since I decided to meet with my teacher for extra review, she gave me 2 extra math packets that is due tomorrow for only me!

Jenn, the present for Aaron sounds great!

Sorry about everyone's cats that are/were sick! I don't have a cat or a dog because my dad is allergic, but I would find it a pain to clean up after it! I really want an animal though... I used to have a fish name Henry, and that was the most I could handle. Hey, it was hard cleaning his 12 inch bowl!


Madam Pince - Nov 3, 2005 4:22 pm (#1530 of 2980)

And Almanzo called her Bess or Bessie, not Beth...)

Ooooo! I know! That little error always aggravated me to no end! I mean, what's the difference -- why not do it right? It's like putting Hermione in a pink Yule Ball dress instead of a blue one... grrrrrr...

And the "Mary married with a baby" bit was very far off from reality, but I must say that the episode where the Blind School had the fire made me a soppy mess for days... and I didn't like Albert either, but that fire episode was so heart-wrenching.

OK, so I'm a total sap...


Finn BV - Nov 3, 2005 4:40 pm (#1531 of 2980)

And I've only been here since May. –Mills

Whoa, really? I thought you had been here way before I got here, which was in April! The things you never knew…

Since I decided to meet with my teacher for extra review –Steph

That is, since your math teacher memorized your schedule and tracks you down during every free, you had an extra review session.


Chemyst - Nov 3, 2005 4:53 pm (#1532 of 2980)

focused on distraction – Haley[
Catherine, you need to give that kid an extra hug tonight. She earned it by brightening our day.

If it is not too late to get in on the temperature discussion, I achieved a first-ever victory this past summer. I got to control the air conditioning at 78° and finally had a comfortable summer.

kids up to the age of 5, actually never lie. - hearsay contributed via Lina's husband
I'm betting that was originally said by a four-year-old.

Jenn - you might want to call his mom and let her think that you did this for HER. [...] I thought of you ... and YOU WON!!!" – Haymoni[
Is it safe to assume Haymoni is older than 5? ...or just a bit Slytherin?

Jenn, for my two knuts, you'd be better off telling the truth and telling his mom that you want to share this with her. If this 'ship does turn into a marriage and she ends up as your mother-in-law, and then around some big family dinner some one lets it slip that you had tried to manipulate a situation to alter her feelings about you... well, it could backfire.


I Am Used Vlad - Nov 3, 2005 5:06 pm (#1533 of 2980)

azi, congrats on your membership. It's nice having unlimited posting privileges. I don't post that much, and joined mainly so I could have an avatar, but that is another story.

I used to watch Little House, but can't specifically recall anything that happened on the show.

Finn, I thought you were a vegetarian. That turkey should be safe.

Edit: I agree with Chemyst. Honesty is usually the best policy. There are a few exceptions that are commonly known as politeness.


Julie Aronson - Nov 3, 2005 5:19 pm (#1534 of 2980)


I keep my AC at 78F in the summer, too. I like it there! Also, I agree with your advice to Jenn. Honesty is best, but there's nothing wrong with an advantageous presentation...



Finn BV - Nov 3, 2005 6:03 pm (#1535 of 2980)

LOL, Vlad, I am a vegetarian, 10 long years running, so I have changed my second line of info.


Amilia Smith - Nov 3, 2005 7:00 pm (#1536 of 2980)

Mills- Are you going to the midnight showing of GoF? –Tazzy

Well . . . and I know I may have to give up my membership for saying this out loud . . . but right now I am kind of leaning more towards a Friday matinee. Cheaper and I will actually be coherent. However, if I had someone to go with . . . (How's that for shameless hinting? I just hate going to movies on my own. There doesn't seem to be anything more pathetic.)

Whoa, really? I thought you had been here way before I got here, which was in April! –Finn

Sorry for the confusion. I have been here in Hawaii since May, but here on the forum since July last year. I got into the internet fandom thing during the build up to POAm.

I don't post that much, and joined mainly so I could have an avatar . . . –Vlad

Same here.



Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 3, 2005 7:58 pm (#1537 of 2980)

Chemyst, Vlad, and Julie, thanks for the advice. I wasn't really thinking I'd let her take the credit or even think this was all about her, but just that I would invite her and his sisters to join me in wishing him Happy Holidays for the sole reason that it would mean the world to him! (I would die if she knew I also wanted her to like me more, but I am being truthful if I tell her it's for Aaron. As it is!!)

Azi, congrats on your star! Isn't it great to post as much as you want every day without a limit?

So, I was really excited today, because I was watching TV and I saw 3 commercials for GoF! I was so happy!!

I just got back from giving blood and I'm still feeling a little weak. I have given blood five or six times before this and never had any problems, but today I passed out right after I finished giving. It was kind of scary! I feel better now that I've had something to eat and laid down for a bit though!

I hope everyone has a great night!



Marie E. - Nov 3, 2005 8:01 pm (#1538 of 2980)

I had a massive panic moment today. A friend at work told me that some of the opening night shows of Goblet of Fire were already sold out. I raced into the office after work and conferred with my fellow HP-obessive friend Nikki. She talked me into going to the midnight showing and then booking IMAX tickets for Sunday the 20th. Mr. E will watch Lexie. She still can't make it through Babe without bawling. I don't think she can see Cedric die.

My cat Samantha always threw up on the carpet. She would actually walk herself from the kitchen linoleum to the carpet.

I think I have kids in my class who are "focused on distraction". At least one for sure.


Finn BV - Nov 3, 2005 8:21 pm (#1539 of 2980)

Ah ha! Sorry, Mills. I was going to say…

Nighty night everyone! I'm going to a local high school production of Noises Off tomorrow; I'm interested to see how teenagers will pull it off. For those of you who haven't seen it, it is a play othat is centered upon timing. It should be pretty cool.


Marie E. - Nov 3, 2005 8:23 pm (#1540 of 2980)

I saw the movie version of Noises Off. I would love to see the theater version sometime. It was hilarious.


Elanor - Nov 3, 2005 10:34 pm (#1541 of 2980)

It is 6.30 am here and I pop in to say hello before I go! It is going to be a very looooooooonnnnnnngggggg day since I have to be at school at 7.30, work till 4.30 pm, grade exercices and notebooks afterwards and then attend the school council at 6 pm, which means that (with luck) I should be back home by 8.30... So I really needed my "dose" of forum before going this morning!

Kids lie? Really? Nah... I've experienced a lot of strategies with them and finally found out that the "a la McGonagall" glance added to a "I know this is a lie, don't make things worse for yourself" usually works till they're 7 or 8. But don't worry, if one of them is ever found on the school roof, I'll know it was emotional magic... (Funny no kid ever thought of saying that till now BTW, you know "I don't know what happened, it must have been emotional magic").

I loved watching "Little house" when I was a kid! I cried, and cried and cried the day Mary became blind. It was great!

Congratulations Azi and Jenn!

Have a great night/day everyone!


Tazzygirl - Nov 3, 2005 11:54 pm (#1542 of 2980)

Mills wrote- "However, if I had someone to go with . . . (How's that for shameless hinting? I just hate going to movies on my own. There doesn't seem to be anything more pathetic.)"

If I am interpreting this correctly- Mills- would you like to go to the opening? I have one friend that is already going with me- all the other fanatics are out of town... You are more than welcome to come!!! The more the merrier!!! I know the feeling about going to movies by yourself- I never go unless someone is with me! I have class that night until 7, and as soon as the class ends I am going straight to the theater to get tickets (pathetic, I know! I just really want to go to the first showing!)


CatherineHermiona - Nov 4, 2005 6:17 am (#1543 of 2980) Reply
Edited by Marie E. Nov 4, 2005 5:19 am

There are three girls in my class: Aleksandra (Alexssandra), Nikolina and Matea. That are three "popular" girls in my class. They always stick together. They aren't really so bad in private life, and only two of them talk big, and only in school. One of them really acts "popular", second one sometimes just goes on nervous, but the third one seems like she doesn't belong there. She is kind, she cares about others. She is the only person I can never reject to help on exams. Because, as my (let me count) fifth homeroom teacher says: "You can get anything if you know how to ask." She knows how to ask and she always says: "Don't you dare to say me the answer before you wrote yours." So sweet of her. There is only one more person who can do the same to me.

Congrats Azi! I would like to have premium membership. I ran out of posts twice and I would like to have an avatar. My mum has hers because someone paid hers.

As you see, I changed my color. Kate

Edit: I just changed a little spelling error, Kate. Marie E.


kaykay1970 - Nov 4, 2005 6:35 am (#1544 of 2980)

I am so mad. Some people can be so stupid. Someone had the nerve to ask my sister if she really planned to put her daughter through another heart surgery. What does she think the alternative is anyway? Let her veins continue to dump blue blood into her heart until it completely over works itself? She thought that because my niece "feels ok" that the surgery is unnecessary. She acted as though my sister is actually being cruel to her child.


The giant squid - Nov 4, 2005 7:00 am (#1545 of 2980)

kaykay, I've found that the best way to deal with that sort of person is to smile sweetly and walk away. They've already decided what is "right" and no amount of evidence to the contrary will convince them otherwise.

Frankly, I think that anyone who makes a habit out of sharing their opinions on things when they don't have all the relevant facts should be slapped. Hard. With a brick.

But that's just me...Miss Manners would likely disagree.



Denise P. - Nov 4, 2005 7:26 am (#1546 of 2980)

kaykay, people just don't think. When Devin was going through his transplant, Ryan was actually happy to donate bone marrow (and two others cried when they didn't match and could not do it...weirdos). I had someone ask me what I would have done if Ryan had not been willing to do it on his own. I am sure I looked at them like they were not using their brain. "He had no choice, we would have forced him." Hmmm, let's think. Let a 7 year old decide to not have surgery so he can exercise his free will but gee, sorry, the 5 year old has to die now. Some "options" really are not options and you do what you have to do.

Today is showing me why I prefer to not go walking with others. Last night, a friend said she would like to come along when I go out for my morning walk today. I said sure and suggested 9. She said she would like to go earlier, I said anytime after 8 is good. She said she would call me after the bus left. It is now 8:30, I have been ready for 30 minutes and no call yet. **:sigh****


Finn BV - Nov 4, 2005 7:38 am (#1547 of 2980)

Yes, Marie, I saw the movie version too. I'm looking forward to it.

kaykay, there are some people who just are inconsiderate, but others who don't realize the negative meaning of what they're saying. It's too bad that this person doesn't understand the impact of what they're saying, as I understood it. I'd let it be and have them think it off themselves.


Puck - Nov 4, 2005 8:04 am (#1548 of 2980)

Kaykay, I understand. I worked with a woman who thought that just about any health problem could be solved naturally without medical intervention. She commented that she didn't know what she would have done in my situation, as if it was wrong to get a pacemaker. I simply told her "You accept medical intervention, or you die. That simple." Another time she balked at my saying I was ready for a second child. She thought it was horrible that I would take the chance, after Parker getting the heart condition. (He's not limited in any way, simply takes a pill.) Of course, I had to take her with a grain of salt, as this was the same woman who said the reason she spent her money so unwisely was because the toilet was in the money corner of her house, causing her to "flush" it away.

Ask the vet about milk of magnesia or Pepto for the cat. A friend was told to do this for her cat and it put an end to years of excessive vomiting.

Never thought of going to see GoF by myself. I just may have to do that and let Daddy try juggling 3 kids for an afternoon! (When you're Mom, going anywhere alone is wonderful, even the movies!)



haymoni - Nov 4, 2005 8:39 am (#1549 of 2980)

kaykay, I'm sure that woman is just concerned that your daughter has had to go through so much at such a young age. It isn't right, it isn't fair and it sucks that she needs to have another surgery - does she really need it???? The woman was probably hopeful that it really wasn't that necessary or that it was something that could be put off until she was older.

But even the most well-intentioned folks can be bone-heads!

I agree with Mike, smile sweetly and hit 'em with a brick!


Chemyst - Nov 4, 2005 12:25 pm (#1550 of 2980)

I had to take her with a grain of salt, as this was the same woman who said the reason she spent her money so unwisely was because the toilet was in the money corner of her house, causing her to "flush" it away. – Puck

Isn't she just a little Human Dynamo of Geopathic Stress! ...but she may have a point about the "flushing." For a philosophy/lifestyle that claims to be as simple and down-to-earth as feng shui does, they have a lot of expensive high-tech ways to take one's money.
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Good Evans - Nov 4, 2005 12:56 pm (#1551 of 2980)

Kaykay, definitley feeling for you and your sister. Some people have no idea when to keep their opinions to themselves!!!

Ok - I have changed my Avatar - and yes I know it’s a bit early - but so what!!! I can start getting excited about christmas can't I?

I have finished writing the christmas quiz for work this week. its 100 type of "7wotw = 7 wonders of the world" type quiz, so if anyone wants a copy let me know! But you have to promise not to sell it to anyone who works for me - or I'll have an expensive time with the prizes!!!

We had our Halloween party on monday night - and for those that asked I will post here the picture of me in my witches outfit (normal dress - yes thanks I know) once I work out how to do it!! And as I have said in the chatroom, it was the lady that told me that I made a very good witch that I havent been able to forget - just what did she mean!!!!!

anyhow - take care, belated happy halloween and all saints day and any birthdays I may have missed. Oh well done Finn on the Xcountry medals - yay you!!!

Julie X


Loopy Lupin - Nov 4, 2005 1:39 pm (#1552 of 2980)

LOL, Vlad, I am a vegetarian, 10 long years running, so I have changed my second line of info.—Finn

Does this mean you decided to be a vegetarian at age 3? Or are your parents vegetarians and you sort of had no choice?


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Nov 4, 2005 3:39 pm (#1553 of 2980)

If it is not too late to get in on the temperature discussion, I achieved a first-ever victory this past summer. I got to control the air conditioning at 78° and finally had a comfortable summer.---Chemyst

When our AC was installed, the man said not to set it below 70 degrees (I totally spaced the whole degree thingy discussion--forgive me) or it could freeze the pipes. It never saw above 68 the entire summer and the pipes survived. Silly man.

As for the vegetarian discussion, I'll quote my friend (who very well may have been quoting someone else), "If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why did he make animals out of meat?"


The giant squid - Nov 4, 2005 3:57 pm (#1554 of 2980)

Lupin is Lupin, your AC guy was full of...hooey (edited for content). Unless you live above the Arctic Circle 68 deg will not freeze your pipes... You'd have to be running it at 40 deg in 100+ deg weather for that kind of thing to happen, unless he used really shoddy equipment.

Now, if you keep it between 70 deg and 78 deg you'll save a lot more money over the summer but that's a whole other thing.

edited because I apparently don't remember how to do the degree thing either


Catherine - Nov 4, 2005 5:52 pm (#1555 of 2980)

I actually liked Farmer Boy and I even have a Little House Cookbook. --Denise P.

I liked that book as well. I remember pitying Almanzo that he had Eliza Jane as a sister, but I also remember how she covered up the "black mark on the wallpaper incident." Perhaps she was not so awful after all.

I've reread that series as an adult, and part of me just wants to advise Pa to find a job that doesn't require moving all over the country every few minutes. Guess I would have made a bad pioneer.

I also disliked that Laura and Almanzo did not have a festive wedding just because of Eliza Jane and his mother's sensibilities, and I still dislike reading that part of Our Happy Golden Years.

I did enjoy the "over the top" villainess that was Nellie Olsen in the TV series, though.


Tazzygirl - Nov 4, 2005 6:44 pm (#1556 of 2980)

I did enjoy the "over the top" villainess that was Nellie Olsen in the TV series, though- Catherine

I have to say I didn't really like Alison Angrahm (sp?) as Nellie in the series. She was a bit annoying... but then again, I didn't like the Nellie in the books either...

I've reread that series as an adult, and part of me just wants to advise Pa to find a job that doesn't require moving all over the country every few minutes. Guess I would have made a bad pioneer. –Catherine

I thought Pa moved the family around a lot (in the books) because he didn't like living in populated areas- that was the reason they moved from the 'Big Woods'. Michael Landon (I think) turned Pa into a person that liked living in towns and being around many different people. I could be wrong though.


Finn BV - Nov 4, 2005 8:04 pm (#1557 of 2980)

Does this mean you decided to be a vegetarian at age 3? Or are your parents vegetarians and you sort of had no choice? –Loopy

Well, yes and no. I was still 2 (summer I was turning 3). I decided I didn't like the taste anymore of meat, so I quit. It was later that I changed my reasons from taste to moral. My parents are not vegetarians.

Noises Off was pretty good tonight, done by an amateur crowd. It was really long though, about 2 and a half hours! The set changes took forever, as those who have seen it know, the second act requires the set to be completely flipped, and the third needs it to be reversed back to the original state! The kids were great; they really got into their roles. If you haven't seen it, you will laugh your head off. I saw it once when I was 5 or 6, and I'm still laughing. It is truly great.

Good night, everyone!


TwinklingBlueEyes - Nov 5, 2005 3:34 am (#1558 of 2980)

Hi all! Sorry I haven't been on this planet for a good long time now but my unlivable house and order to vacate within 60 days, promised trailer from FEMA still a pipe dream... yeah, I been AWOL.

But, I talked to landlord of 15 years today and I DON'T have to VACATE! I think I dropped 50 years off my life with that news!

Kate? "She is the only person I can never reject to help on exams."

I know this is going to sound crass, insensitive, rude, etc before I ever say it, but I have to ask a smart young lady such as you are...

What part of “helping anyone, for whatever reason on exams is still cheating" do you not understand? That you are doing that person a disservice by giving them the easy way out instead of helping them to study and learn for themselves?

Sorry Kip and hosts, ban me if necessary, but I could not in good conscience let a statement such as Kate's slide. This forum is family, and I'd ask my daughters the same question.

...toddles off somewhere, somehow...


Lina - Nov 5, 2005 5:01 am (#1559 of 2980)

TBE, it's so great to see you again! And with so wonderful news that you don't have to leave your house! It calls for a celebration!

I can't imagine that the hosts would ban you for the advice given to Kate. It just happens that she seems to like to turn on this kind of discussions on this thread, she has even done worse... Now, the fact is that I used to be in a similar situations when I was at school and I can say that it is really hard, when you are asked to give the right answer, to say no. The teachers keep telling us (parents) that it is not their job to raise our kids and that only parents can teach the kids what is right and what is wrong. Now, I happen to disagree with that opinion, but if it is not teachers' job to teach right from wrong, it is even less a teenage friend's job to do that. Then, I have met some teachers who think that no cheating can help a kid who has no clue on the subject and that this kind of "helping" makes no difference. Although, an interesting story comes to my mind... My aunt came one day to school without he Latin homework and copied it from her friend. The teacher saw her copying and called both of them to show their homeworks. It turned out that my aunt's homework didn't have any of mistakes that her friend's homework had, and a teacher had a big problem...


CatherineHermiona - Nov 5, 2005 6:16 am (#1560 of 2980)

TBE, I do help them. And when they come to me, I see how much they know. And then I ask: "Wouldn't it be much easier to pay attention on class then coming all the way over here (I live pretty away from others)!?". But it doesn't help. And I can't be the right person to tell them that, I'm the same way. And sometimes when they come, we study, and study, and study, but it doesn't help. Then becomes too late and they have to go home. So it can't be either mine or their fault. BTW, glad you managed to keep the house and great to 'see' you around again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Catherine - Nov 5, 2005 6:17 am (#1561 of 2980)

I thought Pa moved the family around a lot (in the books) because he didn't like living in populated areas- that was the reason they moved from the 'Big Woods'. –Tazzygirl

I know. I was making a funny and it looks like my little joke went awry. Sorry for any confusion.

Lina, I can see how frustrating it is when parents and teachers don't agree on their responsibilities. I remember teaching high school years ago, and I called a parent about the rude language and disrepectful, disruptive behavior her son exhibited. She said, "It's not my job to teach him manners; that's your job. Besides, I work, and I don't have time." EEK!

I think it is definitely the teacher's job to enforce academic honesty in her class. I believe that students won't engage in dishonest acts if they believe that the teacher takes such behavior seriously, and is vigilant, and will enforce consequences.

Mr. Catherine has a brilliant system for deterring cheating in his college class. He gives out two copies of the exam. It is very amusing to grade these exams and see the answer copied verbatim from a question three on the first test which has NOTHING to do with question three on the other test. It's self-punishing behavior, and it penalizes those who sneak peeks onto someone else's test. It also gives Mr. Catherine the evidence he needs to prove that someone did cheat, especially if the "other" answers are on multiple questions.

Off to work "Black Dog Day" for the Humane Society. Wish us luck in our fundraiser/adoption event.


TwinklingBlueEyes - Nov 5, 2005 6:19 am (#1562 of 2980)

Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking

Choices...doing what's right, or what's easy?



Puck - Nov 5, 2005 7:56 am (#1563 of 2980)

Not much to say. beautiful day here, so will toss the kids out soon. They've been watching Saturday cartoon's and eating Halloween candy this morning. Baby falling asleep laying on my lap. She was pretty restless last night. Not crying, just not sleeping very peacefully. Likely needs a bit more rest, sweet little thing.



TwinklingBlueEyes - Nov 5, 2005 9:08 am (#1564 of 2980)

Kate - "Then becomes too late and they have to go home. So it can't be either mine or their fault."

...Pam puts on her half moon glasses and in her Dumbledorish way says...

Yes, and no. Yes things happen that you and your friends can not control. But there are also things you can control.

Please don't get me wrong and I am not trying to pick on you, just trying to show you another way of seeing things.

Who is responsible for what you do, think, feel, or learn? And who is responsible for what your friend thinks, feels, or learns?

Trying to come up with example... ok, you and your best friend both took say, a first aid class. Friend passed exams because of your help, just for the grade, but friend never really learned and retained the material. Say you and your friend were hiking, you get hurt, can't talk, maybe knocked out, but you were in danger of bleeding to death. When the REAL test comes up, do you think your friend will be able to help you?

At some time you will not always be able to help your friend, at some point they will have to learn to stand on their own, like a momma bird pushing baby out of nest to learn to fly.

Do you understand what I am trying to say? If I didn't care I wouldn't have to do all this typing :-)


CatherineHermiona - Nov 5, 2005 12:00 pm (#1565 of 2980)

Listen, TBE, I understand, I do. It's only that I............... Well, I do really help them. I teach them. It's only I sometimes lose patience. And I just say: "As they are going to need when Karlo III. was born or whatever." I mean, they certainly don't want to be teachers. But what you are talking about, I would teach them main things, that they really need in life.

I'm now in the chat room. Kate


Tazzygirl - Nov 5, 2005 12:28 pm (#1566 of 2980)

Catherine- Sorry I misunderstood your funny thing about Pa! It's hard on here to distinguish the funny from the serious on here sometimes! (I'll get better, I promise!) :bashful:


Elanor - Nov 5, 2005 12:39 pm (#1567 of 2980)

I just pop in to say how happy I am to 'see' you again here TBE and to hear about your house!

Catherine, I love your husband's method for "enforcing academic honesty in his class". As a teacher, I'm doing the "don't give the answers to your friend because it won't help him in the end" speech at least twice a week (with variants from time to time as "and don't threaten your neighbour so that he gives you the answers" or "next time, be kind enough to put your two names on both papers so that I won't waste my time marking the same thing twice", etc, etc...). I hope that, if I start when they're 6 or 7, it will pay off eventually!

Have a great day/night everybody!


Good Evans - Nov 5, 2005 12:48 pm (#1568 of 2980)

TBE - great to see you back - pleased that the house situation is settling down, hopefully we will see more of you again on the lex!

having diffciulty with the witch picture - a bit of a techno pygmy, if I sort it out I will post it !

happy Guy Fawkes night everyone in UK - stay safe!!

Julie X


Tazzygirl - Nov 5, 2005 12:49 pm (#1569 of 2980)

I 'helped' a friend once on an exam- it was just one question, and at the time I thought it was harmless (what was I thinking???) and my teacher instantly swooped down and we both had our tests taken away. That was the last time I ever did that! (I think I was in grade school). When we were just working on homework and stuff I helped my friends and they helped me though...


Lina - Nov 5, 2005 1:34 pm (#1570 of 2980)

Catherine, I can see your frustration as a teacher as well. There are some parents that, well, all I can do is shudder thinking of them. (*shudders again*) Actually, I don't expect anybody to raise my children for me, it is just that I know that not all parents care about how their kids behave and there I expect the school to protect my children. I could talk mountains about this subject, but this is probably not he right place.

TBE, I appreciate very much your concern and must say that I agree with you. All I can add to the discussion is that I would never go hiking with "friends" who never do the effort to learn their own knowledge.

Elanor: "don't give the answers to your friend because it won't help him in the end"
Does it rhyme in the French too?

Well, yes, "helping" in the exams, could not really be called help, although a little hint could sometimes help the person to remember what they actually know. Helping with homework is help, but doing the homework for someone else, that is not help at all. Yet, it is a person who asks that should feel it wrong.


I Am Used Vlad - Nov 5, 2005 2:24 pm (#1571 of 2980)

Welcome back, TBE. I hope things work out so you have a lot more time to spend on the forum soon.


azi - Nov 5, 2005 2:32 pm (#1572 of 2980)

Welcome back TBE!!! I hope everything is turning out ok now.

I would never help a person on an exam. If they haven't bothered to learn it, it's their fault. However, if someone was struggling to understand something (such as me with maths) then I would certainly try to explain it to them (such as my friends with Maths A-level who I am extremely grateful for).

Thanks for the congrats. everyone. I don't usually post much, but now I'm less careful about counting. I also missed having an avatar.

Happy Bonfire Night! I've been into York and seen the Minster lit up again, stood on the riverside to see some wonderful fireworks and then watched a nice bonfire burn down for a while! A lovely day!


Finn BV - Nov 5, 2005 3:34 pm (#1573 of 2980)

Welcome back TBE! Hope all new developments about your house are good.


Ydnam96 - Nov 5, 2005 3:56 pm (#1574 of 2980)

Good to hear from you TBE. Glad to hear you don't have to move out. That would just add insult to injury!

Off to walk to the store. I gotta burn some calories.


Marie E. - Nov 5, 2005 7:15 pm (#1575 of 2980)

Sort of on topic, there was a new report tonight about internet sites that sell essays and reports. I had to chuckle a little.

Well, we're sick again at the E. house. We're thinking about just moving Lexie and I into a giant plastic bubble. It started Thursday night when Shayla put herself to bed at 6:30, which scared me. She said she had a headache so I gave her some Tylenol and water in case she was dehydrated (happens a lot here). She woke up 8:30, ate dinner, and was fine the next day. I woke up Friday with a horrible stomach ache and spent the whole day feeling like I'd be sick. I wanted to call in sick to work but I already knew we were short two staff. I have this silly commitment to work thing. By 3:00 I was practically asleep and then Lexie saved the day by throwing up. I'm really sorry she got sick too, but we both got to go home. Poor baby was sick a few more times at home and I went to bed and slept from 6pm to 6am. I'm better today but she's barely eaten and has been sleeping for the past five hours. I've checked on her a few times to make sure she's not feverish or dead.

Now that the new movie is coming soon all the older kids at the daycare are pumping me for plot info. Most of them haven't read the books. I'm not letting anything out. For some reason a lot of them think Hermione dies, which I don't understand. I ordered a GoF poster book from a Scholastic book order and had to wrestle it away from the kids.

We had a freak snowstorm this morning which almost ruined the Veteran's Day parade. The clouds broke right before the parade started. It's supposed to be in the 60's for the next four or five days, very warm for this time of year. I'll take it!


Chemyst - Nov 5, 2005 7:42 pm (#1576 of 2980)

The story of Mr. Catherine ( and why does that sound OK but Professor Catherine sounds wrong? ) reminded me of an earth science professor I had (and for whom I am just now making this connection, but he did look a lot like Alan Rickman +25 lbs.). Anyway, one of the fraternities had purloined a copy of the mid-term. Ah, but the professor was no procrastinator and had already begun grading the first class's tests before the second class was scheduled to take the test that afternoon, and so, discovered what had happened. So the professor had made a new test over lunch but kept the form similar. Apparently some of the frat guys in the second class still answered the questions for the first one. How dumb is that?

We had gorgeous weather today and I spent a good four hours out in it working on a retaining wall along the creek bank. We had so much rain the first part of the summer that erosion had been especially bad this year. We can't, and wouldn't want to, wall in the entire creek, but there are a couple of trees whose roots were being undercut that are worth trying to save. With all the leaves turning golden now, it wasn't hard to imagine our stream as a tributary to the Silverlode in Lothlorien. If the weather continues this spectacular tomorrow, I will have to lie in the hammock and review GF as prep for the movie release.

there was a new report tonight about internet sites that sell essays and reports. I had to chuckle a little. –Marie
You know, I always thought it might be fun to supplement the income by writing essays and then letting others fret about the grade I mean, you'd get paid for doing the fun research & writing part and let your client take the fall if it didn't work, but, that wouldn't be right...


Tazzygirl - Nov 5, 2005 8:16 pm (#1577 of 2980)

I mean, you'd get paid for doing the fun research and writing part and let your client take the fall if it didn't work, but, that wouldn't be right...- Chemyst

Think of all those poor little students who worked hours to find the perfect ready- made essay, and just when they are so proud of their 'work', the teacher hands it back with a big red 'D' (or lower!). I can just see their faces now, upset because they just knew they would get an 'A'. heeheehee ... do you think there are people out there who actually do that? I would have to say I would not feel the slightest bit sorry for the student!!


Eponine - Nov 5, 2005 9:31 pm (#1578 of 2980)

I discovered tonight that you can buy Shakespeare papers on eBay. Does that go against their policies?

I mean, you'd get paid for doing the fun research & writing part and let your client take the fall if it didn't work, but, that wouldn't be right...

That would be fun. Especially since they probably wouldn't read it you could make all sorts of outlandish claims like Shakespeare wrote about cyborgs and Jane Austen wrote westerns.

Today at work, I was helping someone with the microfilm reader (first time for me) and somehow ended up with half the roll of microfilm in a large pile on the floor. I couldn't get the machine to stop spinning the microfilm off the roll so I had to yank it off as it was spinning. It was quite amusing. Thankfully, I didn't ruin it.

I hope everyone is having a great day.


Amilia Smith - Nov 5, 2005 11:24 pm (#1579 of 2980)

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! I have internet! Did you hear that? I am writing to you from my very own room. No more sneaking minutes here and there on the library computers! I can come on in the middle of the night; on weekends; in my pajamas! I can go in the chat room! Use Messenger! Yes, yes, I know . . . I've been here for almost 6 months, and am just now getting internet. "Hi, my name is Mills, and I am a procrastinator." But at least I have it now.

Very glad to hear you don't have to move after all, TBE. How horrendous are the repairs going to be?

I'm a little confused, Kate. Are you just helping your friends with their homework, or are you feeding them answers on tests? I don't see anything wrong with helping them study before hand. But once the test has been handed out, I agree with everyone else. You have to practice tough love and let you friends take what they can get on their own. I feel your pain though, as I am also "a girl who can't say no." And your mother's right. It is not fair that you should feel guilty for helping them instead of them feeling guilty for asking. However, since you are the only one you can control . . .

Tazzy, are you sure you wouldn't mind if I horned in on your group for GoF? I feel really tacky inviting myself like this. But I really hate going to movies alone. Especially this one, where I have built myself up to much.

Speaking of movies, some of you may or may not remember my story about the local film crew coming to my Deli. Well, I thought the film was only going to be released in Utah, but guess what? It opened this weekend in Pearl City! So I may get to go see my Deli before Christmas after all. :-)

Happy Bonfire Night!



dizzy lizzy - Nov 5, 2005 11:39 pm (#1580 of 2980)

Hey Amilia that's great news on the internet connection. I have to admit it is good to be able to use the net whenever you feel like it.

I went thru a rough patch in October (kinda like - Huh? where did October go???) and I couldn't sleep very well. I normally sleep 8-9 hours a night but for most of October it was 3-4 hours per night - pure torture .

Believe me it was great to be able to catch up all the changes to the lexicon and I cleaned out two fan-fiction sites of all their completed works that I was interested in reading (not including the HPL Fan-fiction forum which I completely forgot about in terms of reading fan-fic! ). All while I was in my Jammies. I do not want to see my internet usage stats for October .

Now that I am over my rough patch, I am finally catching on other things like email and posting in forums . Next week is another busy week for me and then I will have the rest of November off. This is not good money wise, but after October, I think I could use some more downtime.

Have a great weekend everyone!



Tazzygirl - Nov 6, 2005 1:00 am (#1581 of 2980)

Tazzy, are you sure you wouldn't mind in I horned in on your group for GoF? I feel really tacky inviting myself like this. But I really hate going to movies alone. Especially this one, where I have built myself up to much.—Mills

I really don't mind if you come! In fact, I insist that you come! I wanted to ask you before, but as I was new I didn't know if you would want to or not. It is not a big group going- it is just me and my friend, Scott. You can't possibly go to the premiere of GoF by yourself!!! (it's just not done... ) and it will be great to have another big fan of HP (Scott doesn't get as excited as I do about such things ) What most likely is going to happen is we will meet at Ward at around 7:30 pm (my class gets out at 7), and then kill the four hours waiting at Buca de Beppo's, getting something to eat. I just checked online, and I am going to go ahead and get three tickets (just so then we are guaranteed a spot in the theater!) So you have to come, no matter what! Let me know if that works for you. Feel free to email me, or I could stop by Hamilton Library (I am on campus Wednesdays and Thursdays).


Lina - Nov 6, 2005 2:00 am (#1582 of 2980)

Tazzygirl: Think of all those poor little students who worked hours to find the perfect ready- made essay, ...
LOL, indeed, that's a very hard work and many hours that could have been spent other ways...

Marie, I hope you and your girls will be feeling well soon.

Lizzy, I'm glad you will finally get some rest.


The giant squid - Nov 6, 2005 3:44 am (#1583 of 2980)

I'm a little confused, Kate. Are you just helping your friends with their homework, or are you feeding them answers on tests?—Mills

After Kate's last post, I was wondering the same thing. if we're just talking about homework, then I think the group's been a little harsh on the poor girl. Her friends still should be learning the stuff themselves instead of letting Kate do the thinking for them, but tutoring is perfectly acceptable. Here in the states (and, I think, in the UK as well) "exam" refers to the actual tests. You know, "Put your books away and pick up your #2 pencil. You have 1 hour to complete this..."

Marie, is it "sick" time already? Have you had your annual bout of bronchitis yet? I'm a little under the weather myself, having come down with a severe case of ennui It's not that I don't want to go to work, I just don't want to go anywhere. My ultimate goal in life is to do absolutely nothing and get paid obscenely well to do it!



Amilia Smith - Nov 6, 2005 3:50 am (#1584 of 2980)

That sounds wonderful, Tazzy! I have class till 7 on Thursdays too, so that would work perfectly. I'm looking forward to meeting you in person! :-)



Chemyst - Nov 6, 2005 5:50 am (#1585 of 2980)

I'm a little confused, Kate. Are you just helping your friends with their homework, or are you feeding them answers on tests?--Mills [...
...] After Kate's last post, I was wondering the same thing... Mike

I think Kate meant both. Her English is very clear. She starts out helping her friends study (which is good) but then as they run short on time, they ask her to finish their homework for them, (probably appealing to her pride in being a good student,) and she often gives in and does it. (A truly good friend would not abuse the friendship by getting the other person to do their work for them.) Sometimes her friends get grades on homework she has done or had partially done for them; so when they get grades for her work, that is also cheating, even if it is not a test or exam. She has also given them test answers sometimes, (which is definitely cheating.) So she needs to either learn how to say 'no' to her friends' requests to do their homework for them, or find some better friends that don't ask her to cheat.

Have I got that right, Kate?
And then there had been a separate but related question about plagiarism; I think if you translate someone else's work, you should still put in a footnote that you used their idea, but then add "Translated by Kate" in the footnote so you get full credit for that.


CatherineHermiona - Nov 6, 2005 7:10 am (#1586 of 2980)

You got that right, Chemyst. And I really should start to practice word 'no', you are right. But, as Amilia, I sometimes 'can't say no'. And if that doesn't work, new friends. But there are pupils I wouldn't help on exam even if my life depends on it. There is pupil in my class that just comes and tells me: "Give me the answer!" or "Give me your homework!". Then I can without thinking say: "In your dreams!". But when they say magic word 'please'........

And on plagiarism thing, when I translate it, it's pretty much my work.

I'm in the chat room now. Kate
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,................


Catherine - Nov 6, 2005 7:38 am (#1587 of 2980)

LOL about "Professor Catherine," Chemyst, and about the frat guys who were so clueless that they wrote the answers from the wrong test.

Mr. Catherine is always amazed when someone does this. He gets an almost fiendish enjoyment when he passes back the first test and says, "We'll go over version A of the test first." What's great is that even if the alleged copying was only on a few questions, (and harder to prove) they lose points anyway. Mr. Catherine also appreciates that the students cannot try to weasel partial credit (which he gives on longer problems) without drawing attention to the fact that their answer is from the other version of the test and has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand.

** sends bubble-head charms to the Marie E. family to stop the spread of germs ** Stay well!


Solitaire - Nov 6, 2005 9:09 am (#1588 of 2980)

I just wanted to post and tell those of you who know him that I've been in touch with MickeyCee. His name came up in a search I did for something last week, at which point I realized I had not seen him around for a while. A further search showed me he had not posted since before HBP. I remembered that he lived in Louisiana, so I crossed my fingers and emailed him.

I have since heard from him a couple of times. The condensed version of things: Although Katrina missed their home, a tornado that spawned inside Rita completely wiped out their neighborhood and destroyed their home. The only things they were able to save were his computer and a dining room set. He told me that he and his wife have relocated to Houston and are seeking new jobs and looking for a new home.

Mickey said he is not up to posting just yet, but he is trying to keep up with the forum. I am sure he probably checks this thread, and I thought there might be some others who want to post greetings.

Hang in there, Mickey! We're pulling for you, TBE, and all of the other "Forum-ers" who've been hit. You're in our prayers!



Madam Pince - Nov 6, 2005 9:25 am (#1589 of 2980)

Welcome back, TBE! So glad to hear the good news about your house, and I hope that you can soon get things more settled! It's so awful to contemplate -- a storm can only take hours to ruin people's lives, and it can take months and months or even longer to fix... arrrrgh. Anyway, sending out good thoughts your way!

And the same good thoughts go out to Mickey Cee! Thanks for that research, Solitaire!

Marie, sorry to hear about the "sickies" already! Ugh, what a yucky way to spend a weekend. Hope everyone's well soon!

She said, "It's not my job to teach him manners; that's your job. Besides, I work, and I don't have time." --parent in Catherine's class.

That just totally floors me! I cannot imagine what I would say to a parent who said that to me, but I'm sure it probably would have ended up in my being fired. What in the world did you do? I mean, someone chooses to be a parent but then "doesn't have time" to teach them manners???? Wonder where the kid learned his rude behavior? Oh that's right -- that didn't take any extra time to teach, did it?

My ultimate goal in life is to do absolutely nothing and get paid obscenely well to do it! --Squid Mike.....  

Mike, I am laughing so hard! I was once on a panel of people interviewing someone for a job, and that's actually what he told us when we asked him what he could see himself doing in the position five years from now if we hired him! And he was dead serious -- he wasn't even trying to just lighten the mood of the interview or something! We all just sat there and looked at him -- none of us knew what to say! After we politely told him "not to call us, we'd call him," I wanted so badly to run after him, grab him in the hall, shake him, and tell him to wake up and learn some interview skills! He was probably one of the fraternity boys who copied on his exams!

I'm not going to step in on the "helping / cheating" debate too much here -- I agree with what seems to be the general consensus: helping or tutoring shows great friendship and support and is to be encouraged; doing work for someone or giving answers during a test is absolutely not cool. Another similar real-life example is one that is going on in our community now -- the local fire departments are being pressured to "lower" the physical requirements for being a firefighter so that less-physically-strong applicants can be given jobs. For example, if "normally" the firefighter must be able to lift and carry 125 pounds, there are people who think that's just "too much" and it's "not fair" to those who aren't able to carry that. All I can say is, if I'm unconscious in a burning house and the firefighter who comes in to save me is unable to lift me, then I'm going to be pretty bummed out! Now if that fire dept. employee is being interviewed to be a dispatcher or whatever -- fine. But the powers-that-be are seriously considering reducing the physical requirements for the firefighter jobs that actually require physical ability. Arrrrrgh.... don't get me started. I'm all for equality -- just be sure that you can actually DO the job! Every job has different requirements -- find one that fits your abilities rather than adjusting the job requirements to fit your ability, particularly if it's a "life or death" kind of job! It's not a discrimination thing, it's a practical thing! OK, /rant.

***Is happy that Lizzy and Mills are having things go right for them and are happy, too!***

Lina, I love your avatar! Mihaela looks like she's apparating through a bunch of balloons!

Everyone have a good "remainder-of-weekend!"


azi - Nov 6, 2005 9:27 am (#1590 of 2980)

Good luck Micky! Sounds like a terrible time you've been through! I can't comprehend what it's like, but hopefully you'll get a job soon!

Marie, hope you and your kids get better soon! It seems like you have a lot of illness at the moment. Good health charms all round!

I just this moment got a text from a friend boasting that he's at the HP film world premiere. I admit I'm not jealous - it's cold and I don't like the films. I told him to have fun.

Edit - I forgot about writing more about the cheating/lowering standards stuff! I can't think of anything more to add to be honest.

Everyone have a great day/evening!


Solitaire - Nov 6, 2005 10:00 am (#1591 of 2980)

Please tell Mr. Catherine I like his style! I teach junior high and am currently seeing more cheating and copying than ever before. Last week we were listening to the CD of The Highwayman in my language arts classes. The kids had an in-class assignment to do immediately following it, so they were supposed to be reading and doing my work.

As I trolled through the room, I noticed one of my best students working away on her social studies assignment. I quietly picked up that book and put it under her desk, opened her language arts book to the appropriate page, and then took the papers she'd been working on back to my desk. After class, I noticed that she had another top student's homework and was copying it. She was irritated when I would not give back the work; I told her I'd give it directly to the social studies teacher myself (I did) with an explanation of how I came to have it. We all have consistent policies on such things, so I knew how she would react.

The student was upset the next day and said it was my fault she got a zero on the assignment, because I would not let her leave the room and get her own book so she could do the work herself! She couldn't seem to own the fact that she should not have been doing other work in my class when she had LA work to do. (I do let kids work on other things when they satisfy me that they have finished what I've given them and are caught up on all other things we are doing ... but this was not such a case.)

The next day, in another class, I saw that one student had put his quiz paper face up on the corner of his desk, and the student sitting in the next row was blatantly leaning over and copying his answers! The copier was extremely indignant when I took both papers and told the kids they had a grade of zero. He informed me that he hadn't copied all of the answers ... only about half of them. So he should get half credit! I just looked at him and tried hard not to say what I was really thinking. Two weeks before, I'd caught a student red-handed with a cheat-sheet under her test paper. I guess the time has come for me to do the Version A, Version B thing, too.

When I am looking at homework and see word-for-word answers from several students, I call the culprits back to my work area for a chat. I tell them that one person has obviously done the work, so there will be one set of points assigned to the whole group. I then open my gradebook, get out my pen, and ask how they would like the points divided. At this point, the one who has actually done the work usually rats out the others. It's kind of a cheap trick, but it often gets results.

I am greatly bothered by what I perceive as a complete lack of ethics among kids. What is worse, I teach in a rural school that has high parent involvement (almost like a private school), no gangs, and generally good kids. If it is like that here, what must it be like in other schools?



Madam Pince - Nov 6, 2005 10:03 am (#1592 of 2980)

I tried to edit but it won't let me for some reason....

I just had one other thought, Kate. Back in my day (egads that makes me sound old!), we used to go up to the teacher's desk and beg her for "hints" during tests, but we didn't ask each other for hints! Could you suggest this to your friends? Let the teacher make the decision as to what "hints" would be acceptable or not. Lina is right that the people who "ask" should certainly be feeling guilty, too. Also, perhaps the teacher could be made aware of the situation so that he/she could exercise some influence? That might take some of the pressure off you to say "no." You wouldn't have to name names necessarily.

Solitaire, I share your concern. It is really troubling -- more so not even that it's happening period, but that they don't even see why it is a problem. Lack of ethics really carries through into all areas of life, and it is very worrisome to me.

Maybe it's sappy, but perhaps the "Little House" books should be required reading in all schools. They didn't seem to have the same ethics dilemmas back then!


Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Nov 6, 2005 11:17 am (#1593 of 2980)

They didn't seem to have the same ethics dilemmas back then!---Madam Pince

LOL Yeah, well, that's just because she left them out! As long as there's been temptation, there's been cheating. Unfortunately, there seems to be a dearth of role models in today's society. Then again, there is Paris Hilton.


Elanor - Nov 6, 2005 12:18 pm (#1594 of 2980)

Mickey, I was so sorry to hear what happened to you, you're in my thoughts and prayers too!

I love your method Solitaire!

Marie, I hope you and your daughters will feel better soon! Since yesterday, I've got a nasty cold that makes me feel really "under the weather" or, as we say here, "not in my plate" (**waving to Kaykay, did you know this one? **)

I wish you all a great Sunday!


Finn BV - Nov 6, 2005 1:13 pm (#1595 of 2980)

Solitaire, you've got some naughty students in your class!

Best to Mickey – how awful!

Mills, what a cool story! Do you know what movie, or is it something minor?

As I was reading back to your linked post, I must chime in I also love the movie Clue. …so she ran down the hall and stabbed the cook! … Husbands should be like Kleenex: soft, strong, and disposable. … Well, I had to stop her from screaming! … Mrs. Peacock was a man?


Tazzygirl - Nov 6, 2005 1:21 pm (#1596 of 2980)

Mills- Yeay! I can't wait to meet you too. When it gets closer to the premiere we'll hammer out the details...


Solitaire - Nov 6, 2005 3:27 pm (#1597 of 2980)

Finn, you can't even begin to imagine! However, I also have some wonderful and very charming kids, too. In fact, the majority of my students are good; it's just that a small minority can make teaching a big headache some days.

I am more fortunate than many of my friends who teach. For one thing, we have a wonderful principal who has tremendous respect for our teachers. He likes our input, and he usually heeds what we say. I also like our location (except for the heat in summer). I teach in a relatively small rural school in central California. We are surrounded on all sides by almond and pistachio orchards, cotton fields, and alfalfa fields.

Although some of our rooms are in dire need of refurbishing, our outdoor campus is beautiful, if somewhat older. We have lots of basketball courts, a football and a soccer field, a regulation track, a swimming pool, baseball diamonds, tetherball courts, swings, monkey bars, and lots of grassy areas and trees. We have a wonderful after-school sports program with talented and generous coaches and lots of parent volunteers. Friends of mine who teach in urban areas of Los Angeles and Orange County are envious.

The ethics issues among our kids, however, are troubling. But it is so difficult to address anything like values in schools these days, given new laws and restrictions.



Lina - Nov 6, 2005 3:27 pm (#1598 of 2980)

Mickey Cee, some settling charms sent your way! And repairing charms to all who need it!

I could agree that the ethics is becoming weaker day by day, although I thought it was happening only here, because of the war and some other circumstances. It is just that I don't remember anybody in my class expecting me to do their work for them (helping, a lot, but doing something for them???) and now I do meet a lot of people at my work who do expect other people to do their jobs. When you know that the boss is well aware of the fact and doesn't seem to care, and you know that you will feel the consequences if the job isn't done, you don't feel as you can do much to change it... You can just hope for a wiser boss. You can change a job, of course, but then you have to weight the pros and contras.

When it comes to cheating, I do blame it on the teachers. They have the power to stop it or to encourage it. There will always be the kids who will think than they can outsmart the teachers. As with puppies, you have to show them that they can't do it right from the beginning. We have had the A and B (sometimes even C and D) groups of tests since forever. Kids know that they can copy just from the kids who sit in front or behind them and not from the kids who sit at the same desk, but still, there are kids who do both the tests and pass the answers to the others. There must be something wrong with that kind of tests. Some kids just do get a poor education at home and teachers can do wonders with them. The parents should be included, if possible. Some time ago, in my town, one father came to the school and broke the nose to the teacher who expected his daughter to learn his subject well enough to get the passing grade. So, all you teachers without such experience should consider yourselves lucky!

A great new week to everybody!

Edit: Solitaire: The ethics issues among our kids, however, are troubling. But it is so difficult to address anything like values in schools these days, given new laws and restrictions.[
I have to agree, indeed.


Catherine - Nov 6, 2005 4:07 pm (#1599 of 2980)
Edited Nov 6, 2005 5:41 pm

The ethics issues among our kids, however, are troubling. But it is so difficult to address anything like values in schools these days, given new laws and restrictions. –Solitaire

I agree that it can be very difficult.

Mr. Catherine has relatively few cheating issues, thanks to his own vigilance and his communication to the students that "If I see you cheating, I will burn out your retinas with my laser pointer." But some of the professors have rampant cheating because they don't proctor their tests, or "look the other way." This makes him, and many students, positively furious.

Mr. Catherine has actually gotten praise from his students that he "encourages" honesty and "discourages" cheating. Thank goodness some students realize the value of integrity.

He is lucky to be in a situation where he can set the rules and the standards.


TwinklingBlueEyes - Nov 6, 2005 6:39 pm (#1600 of 2980)

Thanks for all the warm welcome back and prayers guys! It means a lot to me.

Your right Soli, the lack of ethics, sense of responsibility, and values lacking in such a large percentage of youth is scary. And it has been coming for 30+ years. Like Lina pointed out, is common in the work force now too. Liberal laws that have taken all control from parents and teachers began the slide down a very slippery slope. Can't offend or hurt the little darlings feelings dontcha know? ;-)
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Madam Pince - Nov 6, 2005 7:11 pm (#1601 of 2980)

Yes, it is certainly not a new thing. And Kate, please don't feel like anybody's "singling you out" or anything, because you're certainly not alone -- it's just that you're here within earshot. You are just a good soul who wants to be kind and helpful.

Another way to look at it that might help you a bit is to think that these people are really taking advantage of you. They know you are kind and helpful, and they are pressing that to their full advantage. Besides the fact that it's basically wrong, there's really nothing in it for you, either. (How's that for being Slytherin? ) Things like this have been happening for years. When I worked outside my home, probably in the mid-1990's, we had an onslaught of young newly-hired employees who thought they were "entitled" to the same salary as the people who were department heads, even though they were working at an office assistant position. They felt that they were just as "smart" and just as "educated" so they should make the same salary. It would have been laughable if it hadn't been so pitiful. They just didn't get it that you need to DO THE WORK to earn the pay. These friends of yours, Kate, will need to learn the same lesson.

Although, maybe not. As Lina noted, sometimes bosses don't really care if some employees slack off, as long as another employee is conscientious (dumb?) enough to take up the slack -- the work is getting done, so why does the boss care exactly who does the lion's share? I know -- I've been in the "dumb" category before. I worked with a lady whose job was ordering the product needed in our department, and my job was paying the bills after the fact. Her job absolutely had to be done, or else our dept. would grind to a halt. My job was not as crucial time-wise (to us, anyway.) So whenever she would go on vacation, I was forced to do her job, as well as mine, and she would come back from vacation all refreshed and with a clean desk. Whenever I would go on vacation, she would not pay one single bill, and then I would return to a desk piled high with unpaid bills that needed to go out ASAP. It was so totally unfair, but because I was young and meek and inexperienced and felt the responsibility, I ended up getting dumped on. So this is just the voice of experience, Kate!

***Suddenly feels very very very old....*** ((((Gives Kate big hugs))))


Loopy Lupin - Nov 6, 2005 8:36 pm (#1602 of 2980)

Mr. Catherine has actually gotten praise from his students that he "encourages" honesty and "discourages" cheating. Thank goodness some students realize the value of integrity.- Catherine

My question is what is the penalty for getting caught in Mr. Catherine's class? I mean other than the blinding by laser point. It is here that I think the Honor Code at me alma mater, UVa, deserves some praise. Expulsion is the penalty and the only penalty. This certainly doesn't mean that cheating does not occur at UVa or any other school with a single penalty system. It doesn't even mean that cheating occurs, necessarily, with less frequency. But, it did and, I'm sure, still does make one think twice about it.

I'm also confused by what laws and restrictions are in place that hamper one from teaching "values" or "ethics" in school today. I'm not a teacher, so I'm honestly more curious about those statements than I am trying to start an argument. (I would never do that of course ) Certainly, there are laws and restrictions that would prevent one from placing "values" into a particular religious context. All things considered, that is as it should be. But, what prevents today's teachers from explaining that lying, cheating and stealing are wrong?


I Am Used Vlad - Nov 6, 2005 9:11 pm (#1603 of 2980)

I would never do that of course

No comment.

I think the current topic could easily erupt into a political debate. We all probably think that "values" and "ethics" are important, but discussing how they should be instilled into children, or laws that prevent us from doing so, could easily get out of hand. This is, of course, just my opinion, which I am well aware holds no sway here.


Pigwidgeon - Nov 6, 2005 9:14 pm (#1604 of 2980)

Allow me to chime in on this from another angle.

I do not for a moment condone cheating or slacking off at a job. But consider our society now. 30 years ago, most of your population worked at one place and stayed there, retiring after their allotted years. Nowadays, that is nearly impossible. You have children growing up with fathers who have been laid off, grandparents losing their pensions, aunts and uncles seeing their jobs outsourced and older siblings or cousins having a hard time finding anything beyond low-wage service sector jobs. Why should the younger generations care about doing a good job? With a few exceptions, company loyalty doesn't mean anything anymore, so why should their employees feel obligated to go above and beyond the minimum? It certainly isn't rewarded.

Today, children are taught to proficiency tests and other standardized exams. If they pass, all is well. If a school system does poorly, it is penalized and never mind the possible reasons for the poor performance. There is little time to teach students to become lifelong learners, only the cookie-cutter curriculum is doled out. Education, for even the honest young people, is a means to an end. This is not the fault of the teachers, but of the nincompoops at the state and federal level who fancy themselves education experts without ever setting foot into a classroom.

The problems with ethics go beyond the classroom and even the home. Those are only two small pieces of the puzzle. If corporate America gripes about the younger generations not being up to snuff, the leaders need to take a long hard look in the mirror and acknowledge that they are a big part of the problem. If cheating has become more prevalent and even accepted, we need to look at the underlying reasons why. Are students encouraged to learn on their own, in the way they learn best? Or are they force-fed a state/federally mandated curriculum emphasizing high-stakes test scores over real learning?

And what are the younger generations learning from the so-called leaders of society? The executives who let companies go belly-up while collecting million dollar bonuses? Sports stars and celebrities who get a slap on the wrist from the law because they can afford the best lawyers?

Let's face it, the society has become dog-eat-dog, where the ends justify the means. And we are all the poorer because of it.


Ydnam96 - Nov 6, 2005 11:38 pm (#1605 of 2980)

So to change the topic rather abruptly...

I had a rather productive weekend. I cleaned my entire apartment, did some shopping for birthdays coming up and some much needed clothes. I also did some work for work. I'm pleased with myself Smile

The weather has been strange here in Southern California. It's been in the 70's during the day but super hazy/smokey/foggy-like. But it's great at night. It's getting chilly enough to wear long sleeves and cuddle up in a blanket. I love it.

Did anyone see tonight's Extreeme Makeover Home Edition? I thought it was a good one. They donated all the good stuff from the house to Habitat, which I think is great.

Okay, it's pretty close to bedtime. Have a great week all!


Amilia Smith - Nov 7, 2005 12:25 am (#1606 of 2980)

Glad you had a good weekend, Mandy.

Finn, the movie is called Mobsters and Mormons, so yeah, it is pretty much a niche movie, which is why I was so surprised to see it released outside of Utah. The basic premise is that a New York mafia type turns state evidence, gets put in the witness protection program, and moved to Utah. Culture shock ensues. The reviews I've read say it is predictable, but still funny.



The giant squid - Nov 7, 2005 2:39 am (#1607 of 2980)

Madame Pince, if it helps any I'm right behind you on the job restriction thing. There's a reason firefighters are required to lift that much, as you pointed out. It kinda goes with the ethics discussion--rather than find a job they can fit (or work to make themselves meet the requirements) people are demanding that standards be lowered to fit them.

Bread & circuses...it's all downhill from here.

I'll leave the classroom ethics discussion alone, except to say that I wish I'd had Mr. Catherine for a teacher when I was in school, and that most kids these days need to be spanked.



Lina - Nov 7, 2005 3:13 am (#1608 of 2980)

Loopy Lupin: I'm also confused by what laws and restrictions are in place that hamper one from teaching "values" or "ethics" in school today.

Forgive me if I think that I can answer the question without starting a political debate. The aim of the "laws and restrictions" that are discussed, is to prevent teachers like Umbridge to do as they wish. I can really talk about Croatia, but as I see some comments of the teachers here, it seems that it is similar all around the World.

“Expulsion is the penalty and the only penalty.” For one thing, this is not possible here until the kid is 16. Next, it is not allowed to punish the kid for a misbehavior with a bad mark. It is not allowed to raise your voice or give a kid detention like staying in the corner for 5 minutes (which is quite helpful with younger kids). There are just so many things that are not allowed that the teachers rightfully wonder what they may do? It is not impossible to enforce the "values" or "ethics", it just requires much more energy and, well, not all the teachers have that energy, so some just give up, say what they have to say about their subject and don't try to influence kids on the values that actually exist regardless of the religion or anything else.

It is so nice to have a school, like Solitaire, where the principal cares about the children's welfare and supports the teachers in their efforts to help this kids become respectful people. It is not the case with all the schools. My experience, having two children in two different schools, shows that it is possible that two schools, only few hundreds of meters far from each other, can be diametrically different and all I can do at the moment is cry that I ever set my foot in the first one. That's why I feel so much like discussing it, because it is bothering me very much at the moment. And I wish I could do something to change the situation and I feel so helpless. So forgive me again.

The fact that TBE made her remark on Kate's post, shows that she cares and that she believes that the things can be changed and that's what brings some optimism in life.

Pigwidgeon, I must say that I agree with most of your post except for localizing it only to America. I used to blame communism for that. So, if it is any comfort to you, these things don't happen only in America. My humble opinion is that we still can change it just by caring about our neighbors for the beginning and doing things like They donated all the good stuff from the house to Habitat, which I think is great. (Mandy)

Glad about your weekend, Mandy. My wasn't bad, but not as productive as yours...


Chemyst - Nov 7, 2005 5:16 am (#1609 of 2980)

I'm also confused by what laws and restrictions are in place that hamper one from teaching "values" or "ethics" in school today. [...] what prevents today's teachers from explaining that lying, cheating and stealing are wrong? – Loopy

Loopy, if we had a gagging smilie, I'd use it on you now. That inquiry was phrased in vintage lawyer-speak. You need a good swat on the behind, except I'm not allowed to do that. Well then, drop and give me twenty push-ups, except I'm not allowed to make you do that. I suppose I could give you detention, but I've got a million things to do and really don't want to stick around and watch a smarty-pants* like you.

*Denotes family-friendly version.

(Yeah, the lawyer is confused, riiiight.)    'Not buying it for a minute, Loopy!


Good Evans - Nov 7, 2005 5:54 am (#1610 of 2980)

Ethics: The trouble is that everyone is looking for what they can get away with - the dodge or the quick win, unfortunately ethics come from inside and if you honestly think you can get by on someone else’s work some folk will. Its funny we had a long discussion about plagiarism and now about helping with tests and giving answers / homework for others rather than them doing it themselves. Isnt it all the same thing!

Clue: isnt that the movie with Alec Guinness as Bensonmum .. mum ? love that movie - the blind butler and the mute cook trying to have a conversation - great fun! (or is that not PC these days ??!!!)

Mandy and Finn and Marie E - love your avatars!!!

Mills - welcome to the sunday morning, posters in jammies club!!

have a nice monday everyone

Julie x


Catherine - Nov 7, 2005 5:59 am (#1611 of 2980)

My question is what is the penalty for getting caught in Mr. Catherine's class? --Loopy Lupin (still standing in the corner with his nose pressed to the blackboard)

Well, his university doesn't have the lovely single-sanction consequence for cheating as did your alma mater and also mine (we had a trial by peer; if guilty, you were expelled. Period.) so it is a time-consuming morass of rules and regulations. Almost lawyer-like in their complexity and language.

Mr. Catherine bypasses all of these little problems by confronting the student with the evidence and requesting an immediate and permanent drop from his class. It has worked beautifully. They all have admitted to being "busted" and they are thrilled to drop the class and not have formal issues brought against them. This is not a perfect solution, but it is more severe (getting an F and having to repeat the class and delay completion of school) than what would probably happen on the formal disciplinary level through official channels, assuming a consequences was even imposed. It also helps that Mr. Catherine's Organic Chemistry class is a requirement and pre-requisite for many majors, so the loss of that credit hurts. In addition, I always imagine the students having to explain to their parents (assuming that they are paying for the education) why they dropped such an important class.


Ydnam96 - Nov 7, 2005 6:13 am (#1612 of 2980)

Mr. Catherine sounds like a very smart man, both practically speaking and well in the literal sense. Organic Chemistry? Wow. I never got past Human Bio. That was hard. Wait, that's not true. I did take Biology of Psychology which was harder, but more specialized in an area of my interest, but still. Organic Chem...to be able to teach that. (I'm not a science person and well, I am impressed by those who are).

As you can probably see...I am up in the middle of the night/morning. Can't sleep and it's not fun. Oh well...


kaykay1970 - Nov 7, 2005 6:31 am (#1613 of 2980)

My son broke his glasses on Friday. This is a child that cannot go without his "eyes" for very long. He is very near-sighted. I called the optometrist office on Saturday and they were closed. Where is Hermoine when you need her? I have no idea what this child's prescription is. My husband carried my son to Super Wal-Mart Vision Center with his old glasses. He walked around trying out frames until he found one that my son's old lenses fit into. So he bought a new pair of frames and put the old lenses in. This is a first. I have put new lenses into old frames many times, but never the other way around!


Marie E. - Nov 7, 2005 6:40 am (#1614 of 2980)

Thanks for all the healing charms. They seem to have worked. I was my normal self again yesterday and Lexie was nearly there. I made her stay home from Sunday School and a baby shower. She was upset that I was gone so long (about five hours) but no way was I going to put her in the proximity of an expectant mother.

When I was a kid I lived in fear of breaking my glasses. I remember sitting on them once and bending them, but I never actually broke them. I'm waiting for one of my girls to need glasses. If it's Lexie, I'll need to learn that Reparo spell. She's a bit on the klutzy side.

Good luck, MickeyCee, and our thoughts are with you and your family.


Loopy Lupin - Nov 7, 2005 6:58 am (#1615 of 2980)

Loopy Lupin (still standing in the corner with his nose pressed to the blackboard)—Catherine

Hey! What did I do?


Denise P. - Nov 7, 2005 7:01 am (#1616 of 2980)

The bigger question, Loopy, is did Catherine draw you a circle for that nose or did she put a piece of paper between your nose and the chalkboard?


azi - Nov 7, 2005 7:44 am (#1617 of 2980)

Wow, did the chat thread get into complex discussion overnight! I don't really have much to add, except to perhaps agree with Pigwidgeon that schools have to get students passing their exams so they teach only what’s going to be on them.

Nice to know you're getting better Marie!

Breaking glasses is never nice. Especially when you're on your own in a busy shop, unable to see much and scrabbling on the floor for the lens that just fell out.

Ack, I got a maths lecture in half an hour. I dread these more and more every week.


Catherine - Nov 7, 2005 7:56 am (#1618 of 2980)

The bigger question, Loopy, is did Catherine draw you a circle for that nose or did she put a piece of paper between your nose and the chalkboard? –Denise

Rats! I never heard the one about putting the paper between the nose and chalkboard. I just drew the circle.

My daughter's kindergarten teacher makes the kids "walk the line" for fifteen minutes during recess if they use up two chances. Hayley is horrified by this punishment, and believes it to be extremely harsh. I always thought making kids do lines was the worst.

When I got caught lying to my mother once in second grade, she made me write 200 times, "Lying is wrong and I will never lie to my mother or my father or to anyone else ever again." To compound this misery, I was denied a friend's birthday party, TV, dessert, outdoor play, or my books until I was finished writing.

Perhaps that's why I identify with the "doing lines" in the HP series.


Solitaire - Nov 7, 2005 8:11 am (#1619 of 2980)

Today, children are taught to proficiency tests and other standardized exams. If they pass, all is well. If a school system does poorly, it is penalized and never mind the possible reasons for the poor performance. There is little time to teach students to become lifelong learners

I don't remember who said it now, but the poster is correct. So many kids are interested only in the grade and not what is behind the grade (knowledge). Lina, I believe, laid the blame on the teachers. I think some of the fault does lie with teachers who do not emphasize honesty and responsibility and look the other way on ethics issues. A lot also lies with schools AND PARENTS who emphasize grades over learning.

I am forever having parents ask me for extra credit to bring up their children's grades. The parents who ask me what they can do at home to reinforce their children's mastery of the material in areas where they are struggling are few and far between. They usually tend to be the parents of kids who already excel in all but one small area (spelling, grammar, vocabulary).

Alas, sometimes parental help is not all that helpful. I have resorted to having all essays written in class, in order to bypass the problem of parents, friends, and older siblings doing the writing for the poor writers. How can I address the problems kids are having with their writing if the only papers I receive have already been "sanitized" by Grandma, Mom, or Brilliant Older Sis? I allow rewrites--with me, during recess, study hall or a tutorial--so that students can learn to recognize their problem areas and correct them on their own. Most kids take advantage of this.

Well, on that note, I must go to school. Have a nice day, everyone!


PS I hate when teachers make kids do lines, Catherine. It teaches them to hate writing. VERY foolish punishment, if you ask me.


Catherine - Nov 7, 2005 8:55 am (#1620 of 2980)

PS I hate when teachers make kids do lines, Catherine. It teaches them to hate writing. VERY foolish punishment, if you ask me. --Solitaire.

I absolutely agree.

And on the subject of teaching peeves, how annoying is it when parents come at the end of the semester wanting a teacher to drop a missed homework assignment? I followed the homework policy to the letter; called parents or mentioned the missed assignment at carpool; still, there were parents who tried to demand that the zeroes be dropped six weeks later! Never mind that the school where I taught earlier this fall has an electronic gradebook in which parents can see their child's average at any time.

Many parents protect their children too well from the consequences of their behavior. In my opinion, it is better for a child to learn how to fail a quiz and learn from their mistakes than it is for the child to have a parent demand that the bad quiz grade go away. It is much better for a child to realize that not turning in homework results in zeroes in sixth grade than the allow that child to enter high school without the necessary preparation.

Oops...rant finished.


Solitaire - Nov 7, 2005 9:17 am (#1621 of 2980)

LOL Catherine! You have absolutely nailed the entire thing! In addition to grades online, I also post a weekly syllabus on my class webpage. It is exactly what my students get each Monday. This way, parents can see what is going on for class work, quizzes, and homework all week ... and plan ahead if it is going to be a busy after-school week for the family.

My favorite thing is when a student arrives in class on the due date of a MAJOR PROJECT (science fair or history day, for example)--which was assigned anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months before--with a parent note saying they were away last night, so the project will be turned in the next day. Don't you just want to flatten someone?



Ydnam96 - Nov 7, 2005 9:41 am (#1622 of 2980)

Haha, Solitaire, I totally agree! I work with college students and it amazes me the things they will ask their professors. One of my staff members had an assignment for about a month and a half. Two days before it was due she was going to do it (it involved travelling to a museum) but she got really sick. The professor gave her an extension. Maybe I'm mean, but if I were the professor I would have reminded the student that she had a month or so previous to the day she got sick to work on the project and that if she turned it in late she would recieve one letter grade down from what she earned on the project itself (it's better than a zero).

As for glasses. I have found I'm pretty hard on my glasses so now I only buy the ones with the flex hinges. I've seen glasses that are completely flexible so that they won't break. Well, the frames won't break which is way better than glasses a few years ago!


azi - Nov 7, 2005 10:16 am (#1623 of 2980)

I have a friend who had those flexible non-break glasses. She did a demonstration and broke them. I laughed.

The rules are very clear on handing in work at uni. 5% of the mark you get are lost every day it is late by, including weekends. You can get an extension but only under very special circumstances.

I survived Maths. Then again I had the nice teacher today.


Solitaire - Nov 7, 2005 10:43 am (#1624 of 2980)

Flexible glasses sound wonderful to me! At night--and sometimes when I am sick--I love to lie in bed and watch TV. Alas, my glasses sometimes manage to find their way off my face and get bent when I roll over onto them. After doing this a few times, I now wear only an old raggedy pair (3 pairs ago) for watching TV in bed!

I've often thought they sounded like a good idea for kids, though ... their glasses tend to take a beating.



Loopy Lupin - Nov 7, 2005 10:45 am (#1625 of 2980)

I used to have a teacher who gave 2 zeros for missed assignments. She was otherwise a kindly older lady, but her catchphrase was "I'm so sorry. Two zeros."


T Brightwater - Nov 7, 2005 11:28 am (#1626 of 2980)

Pigwidgeon, I agree with you totally. So many parents seem to be more worried about their kids "fitting in" (i.e. being just like everybody else) than about developing strong moral standards or critical thinking, much less their individual talents - and then they wonder why their kids are vulnerable to peer pressure over things like drugs and alcohol.

The most interesting and intelligent people I know were all misfits in high school to one degree or another, and those who have gotten over feeling sorry for themselves about it and focus on what they love doing are the most joyful people I know.

It was a very nice surprise to see the most recent issue of Smithsonian magazine, which features 35 people who "made a difference". All of them are driven by love for their work and a strong desire to keep learning, two things which seem to be considered "uncool" nowadays.


Denise P. - Nov 7, 2005 11:55 am (#1627 of 2980)

I agree with the difference that is placed on grades and learning. I have a son who has learning difficulties. We know he has them, he has been tested, we can see it in his daily work. His current teacher thinks he is working at grade level. I had to be pushy to get a meeting with her to discuss how best to help him. Her suggestions were to have him not read out loud as much (because he struggles with it) and rather than require him to learn 15 spelling words, he can only learn 5. Uhm, how does this help him? I declined both offers and we are currently reading The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe out loud. To me, the modifications suggested only gives him an easy out to be mediocre, it doesn't help him learn. Ugh, don't get me started! Here is a sample, spelling and spacing his, of his writing: I Was hard. I hade to have medise. And tare was not a lot of tv canols. In a year I Got owt (It was hard. I had to have medicine and there was not a lot of TV channels. In a year, I got out.) Now, how any teacher feels that is on grade level in third grade is beyond me. I shudder to think where he would be if I were not pushing to get him help, helping at home, doing extra stuff etc.

Catherine, the purpose of the paper between nose and board is so that in the event the unruly child moves, there is a flurry of movement to catch the paper...BUSTED!


Lina - Nov 7, 2005 2:05 pm (#1628 of 2980)

Kaykay, it's actually great that your son broke just the frames and not the lenses and that your husband could find the frames that fit! Cheers for you!

Marie, glad to read that you and the girls are feeling better!

Solitaire, I should cite the whole your post #1619 because I agree with it 100%. It is just that, when I am asked to do something that is against my ethical principles, I just refuse to do it. That would be the point. My friend got fired when he didn't want to give the passing grade to a student at the request of his boss. Eventually, that boss lost his job and my friend got his one back. There is no excuse for the teachers giving good grades for bad knowledge.

My children's home owners know that the first information I need when I come to see them is if there are any missed homeworks. Each missed homework = 1 cm of the hair off. I had big problems with Kate until I introduced this punishment, because it didn't really affect her knowledge and the teachers kept praising her. She never missed any homework ever since. While Veronika's hair started to grow only after she changed the school...

I never expect Veronika to have excellent grades, I just want her to get the knowledge that she can use in her life and to be able to choose the profession that would make her happy. I know that she is not able to show all that she knows and I expect the teachers to notice her achievements and not to belittle her for the things that she is not able to do.


Solitaire - Nov 7, 2005 2:54 pm (#1629 of 2980)

Lina, at my first teaching job--in a Catholic high school where I expected higher standards and stronger ethics--I was asked to give a failing senior a passing grade, so that he could get a full-ride scholarship (he was a star quarterback). I refused. I did give some conditions under which I would be willing to award a grade of C, if the student complied. He agreed but soon petered out.

When I found that the principal had changed the grade I gave the student to an A, I quit. I heard from a friend that the student had flunked out within 4 quarters. I've never been sorry I didn't go along with the request, but it did cost me.



Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 7, 2005 3:23 pm (#1630 of 2980)

Wow, you guys were really really chatty this weekend weren't you?

Okay, here's a college student's take on the whole cheathing/ethics dicussion: As I went through high school, I never once felt like I was being taught "for the tests" or anything like that. Nor did I feel like grades were more important than learning. My high school was very competitive. I graduated with honors and a 3.5 grade point average (on a 4.0 scale) I also graduated 60th out of 177! The top 25 people in my graduating class had grade point averages of 4.0 or higher! (Advanced placement classes were weighted more than regular classes so it was possible to have a grade point average higher than a 4.0!!) Anyway, all of these students who had these grades (obviously) took advanced placement courses, as did I. While they were overly concerned with grades and got A's in these classes, I was more relaxed and more concerned with enjoying the material of the classes while still getting decent grades (mostly B's, and some A's)

(For those of you who don't know about the AP system, they are classes and then standardized tests for specific subject that high school students take and, depending on their test scores, can earn college credits for the classes. They are generally considered to be classes taught at a collegiate level and are, in most cases, much harder classes then even honors classes in high school!)

When it came time to take the advanced placement tests  most of the students who had focused simply on grades and then prepared for the tests by studying for a score and not to know the material found they scored about average on the tests. These tests take about 3-4 hours each, and if you don't really know the material, you easily become fatigued and can't focus well enough to do well on the test. Not to sound full of myself or anything, but I scored well above average on the test I took. The point of all this is, those students who were solely focused on grades and test scores were not rewarded for it, while those who cared more about learning the material were. My teachers had warned us about this. They spent most of the school year warning us that taking these classes just for the weighted grade would not help us in the end. They never taught us for tests or grades. They taught us for the knowledge.

I'm not saying it's the same everywhere, just letting everyone in on my take on the matter.

Anyway, that's all I really have to say on the subject. Have a great day everyone!!



I Am Used Vlad - Nov 7, 2005 5:41 pm (#1631 of 2980)

Good Evans, Alec Guinness played Bensonmum in Murder by Death, a movie quite similar to Clue. Both were funny.

Chemyst, no offense, but I took Loopy's question about values and ethics seriously. I spent the better part of my childhood being brutalized on a daily basis, and think that any morals that I have came about in spite of that treatment. As I said last night, I don't think discussing the problem of Liberal laws should be done on this forum.


Viola Intonada - Nov 7, 2005 6:25 pm (#1632 of 2980)

To those of you in the Cleveland area and would like to get together to go see "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire", please email me soon. I plan to buy tickets in the next couple of days for "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" for the Saturday, November 19 at 11:50am at the Regal Montrose 12, 4020 Medina Road, Montrose, OH (Route 18, btw, there are two theaters on Route 18, this one should be the one closest to I-77)

We plan to go out for a late lunch afterward to chat.


The giant squid - Nov 8, 2005 12:43 am (#1633 of 2980)

I know the secret reason Marie is feeling better--she somehow sent her sickness to me! I've had a scratchy throat all day, I could barely eat any dinner (which for someone who already weighs less than your average housecat can be traumatic), and I feel so tired & achy I might actually go to bed before 3AM!

I retract my earlier statement...the problem is that most parents need to be spanked! Demanding that their child's failing grade be "removed"... I have a mantra at work (that no one listens to, of course): "Pay Attention". If people would do this 90% of their problems would go away. Kids try to get away with things because they aren't paying attention to the consequences of their actions. Parents are oblivious because they aren't paying attention to their kids.

I'd say more, but y'all probably aren't paying attention to me anyway.



Julie Aronson - Nov 8, 2005 3:32 am (#1634 of 2980)

As an FYI for the Cleveland area GOF get-together, some good landmarks for that theater are Dick's Sporting Goods, Staples, and World Market.

I can't wait!!!



What was that, Mike? --I was distracted...


CatherineHermiona - Nov 8, 2005 3:44 am (#1635 of 2980)

Oh, those boys! They act like morons! (Not you Finn, boys in my class!) They just think it's funny to make fun with those stuff like dating. Today they asked me the same. They said like: "....... asked me to ask you if you would like to date with him." Luckily they don't know they asked about right person.( to someone) But from the very first moment I knew they are kidding. We (girls) are used to that already. Just repeat: "Ignore him, ignore him, ignore him......" Such (sorry on expression) morons!

Oh, mum, can I go to Matea tomorrow morning? She asked me for instructions in maths..............



Catherine - Nov 8, 2005 5:47 am (#1636 of 2980)

'd say more, but y'all probably aren't paying attention to me anyway.  

Hmmm..who said that? I hope you are feeling better, even if you do weigh less than the average housecat.

Off to write Squid Mike's mantra..."Pay attention. Pay attention. Pay attention...." At least it's short.

And it's better than standing at the blackboard holding paper up by my nose. **waves to Loopy Lupin**

Have a great day, everyone. I'm going to get dirty in the yard today--I have tulip bulbs and and 2 flats of pansies to plant. Yesterday I repotted my ferns so that I can bring them inside. I'm not sure they will like being houseplants, but they grew so well over the summer that I thought I could salvage them. I'm also going to divide my daylilies, and move them. They are beautiful, but they were mislabeled at the nursery, and were rather a surprisingly shocking shade of red and chartreuse when they bloomed. They looked a bit garish next to my pink roses, so they need to find a another location.

Off to get busy...


Marie E. - Nov 8, 2005 6:36 am (#1637 of 2980)

I got to spend last night doing a mad dash to the bank to deposit my Girl Scout nut and candy money. Of course it was my co-leader who was late turning in her money. The bank closes at 7pm and I made it there by 6:35pm. Whew!

My sister, She-Who-Does-Not-Read-The-Books, had her ultrasound yesterday. I wasn't going to say anything, but she says she left a message with Squidboy. They got some very good pictures and she is definitely having a boy. I know this is easy to say after the fact, but I knew it was boy. I just can't picture my sister with a little girl. And yes, she's still going to name him Cobain. **sigh**


Good Evans - Nov 8, 2005 6:48 am (#1638 of 2980)

oh whoops - I remember now - thanks Vlad!!!! I can't quite place Clue though - was Tim Curry in it? and Eileen Brennan "all pale and tragic" - I think that might have been it !!!

RE GOF movie - boo hiss I can't go til Sunday the 20th - but I will catch up on the opinions and chat just as soon as I can. If anyone is in the Crawley area and wants to see it that Sunday - let me know - we can all sit together!!!


Loopy Lupin - Nov 8, 2005 6:57 am (#1639 of 2980)

Yes, Tim Curry was in Clue and Eileen Brennan.



Julie Aronson - Nov 8, 2005 7:46 am (#1640 of 2980)

Tim Curry will always be Frank N. Furter to me.



azi - Nov 8, 2005 8:19 am (#1641 of 2980)

Ahhh, today is a lazy day! I don't have any lessons until 4.15pm, but I've been into town and spent slightly more money than I probably should have. I also bought 800 grams of Cadbury's chocolate. That'll keep me going for a couple of days...

I have a friend who claims to absolutely hate everything Harry Potter (some people may have seen my annoyance on the 'You know you're a HP fan when...' thread with this particular person trying to throw my books out the window). Anyway, last night he asked me if I'm going to see the film and said he was. I was like, 'Wait a moment, you hate the Harry Potter yet you're still seeing the film?' Methinks he's contradictory.

Hope you get better Mike!

I have no idea who Tim Curry is.

Have a brilliant day everyone!


T Brightwater - Nov 8, 2005 9:00 am (#1642 of 2980)

Solitaire, good for you! And Soul Search, thanks for reminding us that it isn't all doom-and-gloom on the education front. Fortunately, there are still dedicated, responsible, excellent teachers out there (and some of them are in here!)

I hear you, Vlad; finding a balance between abusive discipline and none at all shouldn't be that hard, but many people seem to find it so. I also don't think moral standards are the exclusive property of any political party or religious group.

Kate, you are being very mature about discussing all this! And it sounds like boys haven't changed a lot since I was in junior high, unfortunately. (Present company excepted, of course.)

TBE, great news about your house, and good to see you back!

In the eastern calendar, today is the feast of the Archangel Michael and all angels (Sept. 29 in the west) so happy name-day, Squid Mike! Hope you're feeling better.


Puck - Nov 8, 2005 11:28 am (#1643 of 2980)

You know, that parent thing extends beyond school. I had a child in my ballet class who was disturbing the other kids, running around, poking them, etc... After several reminders, I asked her to go and sit on the mats, as she had another child almost in tears. The girl’s mother storms in the room and starts yelling at me in front of my students, that her daughter is not there to be placed in time out, and she's only 2 after all. (Not supposed to take the class unless they are at least 3.) Started in on how smart and friendly her ill-behaved child was. I realized why the child was disruptive, as mother had no problem with interrupting the class.

I am glad to see the teachers who do their best to limit cheating. I had a professor in college who assigned a project on the first day of term, due at the end of semester. Everyday she started class asking if we were making progress, and if anyone needed any help. No one ever did. After exams I went to pick up my graded paper. She told me I had received an "A", but didn't have my paper because she had lent it as an example to another student who came to her on the day it was due claiming it was done because he was confused over the assignment. I was floored. I'm sure a copy is still floating around to this day. (And I'm one who never let anyone copy, because I figured if I had to do the work, so did they.)

My boy was into Harry Potter this weekend, requesting to watch SS, and play his Lego HP computer game. Mr. Puck and I had a quiet anniversary, as it is difficult to have a candlelight dinner with a newbrn in tow. Been married 7 years now. Wow, it's going fast!

Jealous of all you in Britian who get to Gof already! (Even Madonna was there!)

Feel better Mike!


Loopy Lupin - Nov 8, 2005 11:28 am (#1644 of 2980)

I have no idea who Tim Curry is.—azi

Ah, youth. You have undoubtedly seen him in a number of films even if you've never seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show. He's probably more famous for that than anything else he's done.



Denise P. - Nov 8, 2005 11:43 am (#1645 of 2980)

He does the voice of Nigel on The Wild Thornberrys.

I see Wadsworth when I hear Tim Curry. "I buttle, Sir"


Solitaire - Nov 8, 2005 12:18 pm (#1646 of 2980)

Puck, you are correct. Friends of mine who coach club sports, cheerleading, dance, etc., have exactly the same kinds of problems as classroom teachers. Alas, they must deal with the same parental problems, too. Your friend is correct ... the acorn doesn't fall too far from the tree. This is one reason meeting parents can be so enlightening.



kaykay1970 - Nov 8, 2005 2:11 pm (#1647 of 2980)

My husband was a little league coach. One year we had a very troubling parent on our team. His son had to sit on the bench so he threatened my husband with bodily harm. This is the nice version as I cannot tell you what he said in front of all those children. The umpire and sheriff actually had to escort this guy from the park.  Anyway when there are 14 children on a team and only 9 on the field somebody is going to sit on the bench. It isn't like mine never sat there themselves. The bad thing about this is my husband was always the fair coach and made sure all the kids got playing time. I would hate to think what this guy would have thought of some of the other coaches in the league.


Tazzygirl - Nov 8, 2005 2:25 pm (#1648 of 2980)

Tim Curry also played the bad Cardinal Richelieu in Three Musketeers along with Kiefer Sutherland, and Chris O'Donnell. This movie came out in the early 90's... Tim Curry always reminded me of my friend's dad...


The giant squid - Nov 8, 2005 2:55 pm (#1649 of 2980)

Thanks for the well wishes, folks. it was nothing 10 hours of sleep couldn't fix.

Yes, I talked to our sister as well. I spent a good 20 minutes trying to explain why Cobain is not a good choice for a child's name, to no avail. So I settled for mockery--I told her I'd call the kid "Coby". Repeatedly. "Coby Coby Coby Coby Coby..." Either that or "Bain" (which she says she'd prefer over Coby). I also noted that if you take off the first and last letters the name rhymes with "obey" but I think she was getting annoyed at that point.

Like Loopy said, Tim Curry has been in a lot of stuff you've probably seen. Rocky Horror is probably the most famous, along with Three Musketeers, Clue, Legend, Stephen King's "It", Congo, Muppet Treasure Island, McHale's Navy and Scary Movie 2. I'm willing to bet everyone here has seen at least one of these... Like Denise, though, I liked his Wadsworth the butler the best. It's the heavy sarcasm ,I think.



Catherine - Nov 8, 2005 3:51 pm (#1650 of 2980)

I spent a good 20 minutes trying to explain why Cobain is not a good choice for a child's name, to no avail. --Squid Mike

At least you tried.

I am so tired tonight. I planted, dug, divided, and replanted nearly the entire day. I decided after I lifted my daylilies to relocate them elsewhere. But, that meant that I "needed" to get something else to fill that spot. Oh, darn. I had to go to the nursery.

The nursery owner is starting to rub her hands together in delight when she sees me coming. That's how you know you've spent too much time and money there.

Off to eat dinner and go to bed.
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Detail Seeker - Nov 8, 2005 4:05 pm (#1651 of 2980)

Tim Curry: Hah, at last one actor, I can relate to - as the singer of "I do the Rock". I think, I have that single record somewhere deeply buried, still.... But having seen none of the films, I have no idea about his acting.


Lina - Nov 8, 2005 4:27 pm (#1652 of 2980)

Actually, it shouldn't be a parents vs. teachers argument. It is more good parents and good teachers vs. bad parents and bad teachers argument, because I think that bad parents are quite satisfied with bad teachers. Since there are none of the latter here, there is nothing to argue about. I just think that putting no limits to the children's behaviour is as abusive as that Umbridge's quill.

Julie, **hem hem**, did you by chance get any mail? Because, you know, **hem hem** I have certain expectations... I know Halloween is over, but you could give some honor to the movie that is in the UK theaters already... Speaking of which, it is not coming here until December the first...

I'm glad that all the Marie - Squid family is feeling better.

Denise, Rhys is really growing fast! That's great! A gorgeous little boy.

Catherine, that sounds like a wonderful day!


Eponine - Nov 8, 2005 5:04 pm (#1653 of 2980)

Tim Curry in Clue is one of the best things ever. I love that movie. I can quote it all day long. If you haven't seen it, you should definitely watch it.

At work today, I was checking in magazines, and there was an article in Time about ambition. It profiled a lot of different successful celebrities and gave a few examples of their ambition early in life. It mentioned Sean Combs (aka P. Diddy) and one of their examples was that when he was in college he sold term papers. It floored me to think that they were giving an example of why he's so successful today as facilitating cheating in school and profiting from it.

Well, I hope everyone here is having a good day.


azi - Nov 8, 2005 5:05 pm (#1654 of 2980)

I have seen Rocky Horror! It's the only film out of all the ones Squid Mike mentioned that I've seen, but seen it I have.

I feel ill. I went out with some friends and ate the biggest treacle sponge I've ever seen. So big I had to give half to a friend (who had eaten a massive steak meal and also proceeded to eat a large portion of chocolate fudge cake after he ate the rest of my sponge). Think I'll sleep it off in the good old student way.


Finn BV - Nov 8, 2005 5:33 pm (#1655 of 2980)

My, we were a chatty bunch these past two days. I was out at a concert all last night, so I had no chance to catch up here!

Clue: isnt that the movie with Alec Guinness as Bensonmum --Julie (Good Evans)

Oh, no, that's Murder by Death (love the title alone! ), still good, but Clue is with Tim Curry and Madeline Kahn, Eileen Brennan, and Christopher Lloyd. Whoops, I see that Vlad answered you already. This is Clue. Whoops again, I see Loopy has addressed the problem.

Glad the Marie household is feeling better.

When I found that the principal had changed the grade I gave the student to an A, I quit. I heard from a friend that the student had flunked out within 4 quarters. –Soli

Serves him right! I hate stories like those (that is, I like the stories but despise the people who change the grade – horrible administrators ).

Feel better, Mike! And you are better! Wouldn't you know!

He does the voice of Nigel on The Wild Thornberrys. –Denise

I love the nasal accent! Not that I watch TV anymore, but in days of old when I did… ah!

I see Wadsworth when I hear Tim Curry. "I buttle, Sir" –Denise

Yes again! The Colonel Mustard say: "Which means… what?" LOL!

It mentioned Sean Combs (aka P. Diddy) and one of their examples was that when he was in college he sold term papers. –Eponine

That's pretty funny considering that his son is in 6th grade at our school. Incidentally, it is just "Diddy." Really, Eponine.

Feel better, azi!

I am really excited because……… I am going to see GOF on the 14th!! How cool is that! One of my friends was going to an advance screening and he invited me. I promise I won't spoil it…… Can't wait! Less than a week!


Eponine - Nov 8, 2005 5:55 pm (#1656 of 2980)

Yes again! The Colonel Mustard say: "Which means… what?" LOL!

'I keep the kitchen and dining room tidy.'

Incidentally, it is just "Diddy." Really, Eponine.

Thanks. He's changed his name too many times for me to keep track.

Finn, I'm jealous of you now. I wasn't all that excited about the movie, but I just watched the HBO First Look posted over at HPANA, and I am once again consumed with anticipation for this film. I still won't get to see it until the 19th, though because I'll be waiting for Mr. Eponine to get back from out of town.

Edit: And Murder By Death is a funny movie as well, but I don't think it's quite as funny as Clue. Maggie Smith (McGonagal) is in it, and she has (IMO) the funniest line in the whole movie.


Madam Pince - Nov 8, 2005 5:56 pm (#1657 of 2980)

Catherine, good luck with all your planting. I planted two flats of pansies and a whole bunch of mums a few weeks ago, and the squirrels have dug up about a third of them so far. I am beginning to get hungry for that gravy we were talking about awhile ago....

Mike and Marie, congrats on your pending "uncle/aunt" status! Keep it up with the "Cobain" jokes -- she's bound to see the light eventually, don't you think? It's probably just hormones....

Denise, is that a Sirius-jailbird-suit that little Rhys is wearing?

Eponine, that story about Sean Combs is pretty nauseating. What a great example that magazine is setting if it lauds someone for cheating and calling it "ambition." Hmph. Oh, and by the way, I meant to mention before but forgot it -- I would've paid an admission to see you struggling with the microfilm the other day! Tee-hee! Where is the "Funniest Home Video" crew when you need them?

I think I am off to bed early tonight, too. I did the bi-annual (semi-annual? I always mix them up -- whatever, twice a year) "Cleaning of the Silk Houseplants" today. Ugh, ugh, ugh. I am too stingy to throw them away because they were very expensive and they look great once you clean them, but they are such a pain to clean. Plus today the squirter on the cleaner spray can didn't work right so I had to pump it, and the job took probably twice as long as it should have, so I was squatting / bending down for hours. I do not believe the human body was intended for such.

Edit: I loved both Clue and Murder by Death, and I think Tim Curry is a comedic gem! "I buttle, Sir." ***snort!***


Finn BV - Nov 8, 2005 6:25 pm (#1658 of 2980)

Eponine, which line of Maggie Smith's are you thinking of? I just remembered:

MRS. WHITE: He was deranged … lunatic. He didn't actually seem to like me very much; he threatened to kill me in public.
MISS SCARLET: Why would he want to kill you in public?
WADSWORTH: I think she meant he threatened, in public, to kill her.



Eponine - Nov 8, 2005 6:32 pm (#1659 of 2980)

The line in Murder By Death where she wonders about people stealing naked, dead bodies and her husband whispers something in her ear and she looks appalled and says, 'Oh that's tacky, that's really tacky.'

Mrs. Peacock: Everything all right?
Colonel Mustard: Yup, two corpses, everything's fine!

--loves that movie so much--


Ydnam96 - Nov 8, 2005 6:40 pm (#1660 of 2980)

Wasn't he also in one of the Home Alone Movies? I think number two when the kid is stuck in New York? I think Tim Curry would have been a WONDERFUL choice for playing the Grinch in The Grinch Who Stole Christmas. He has that big evil smile. I think my favorite Tim Curry movie is Three Musketters.

I'm so tired. I'm running on less sleep over the last two days than I normally get in one day.


DJ Evans - Nov 8, 2005 6:55 pm (#1661 of 2980)

Oooo, I love both Clue and Murder by Death. Both have me giggling throughout them, with Clue out in the lead by a margin. It was funny but while I was reading those who had quoted a line or two from them, I was saying them in the characters voices -- "that's" how many times I've seen them.

I kept hoping that Tim would land a part in one of the HP movies. I thought he might would have been good as Peeves if they should have put Peeves in the movies. Oh well...... I do hope though that they never try to do a remake of Clue cause IMO I seriously doubt if they could ever do it justice.

Later, Deb


T Brightwater - Nov 8, 2005 6:57 pm (#1662 of 2980)

Mandy, what are you doing here if you're that short of sleep???? Seriously, we love your company but go take a nap, girl! :-)


Madam Pince - Nov 8, 2005 8:35 pm (#1663 of 2980)

I agree, Mandy, Tim Curry would've been a wonderful Grinch! And Peeves, too, for that matter.


Stephanie M. - Nov 8, 2005 9:38 pm (#1664 of 2980)

WOW!! You guys have been extremely chatty!

Well, I gotta run so this will be extremely short.

I love the movie Clue ... and the game too! It's fun to play in scary rooms when there are thunder storms. I once played in my cousin's old country house when they were in the process of moving, so there wasn't a lot left in the house and I was really little and I remember playing clue in the basement and there were thunder storms. It was around 7 years ago so I was 6 years old. And that's all I really remember. But the movie was GREAT! I haven't seen it in 2 years, I think. I must rent it...

Well, that was longer than I expected.

Nighty Night, everyone! Have pleasant Harry Potter related dreams!


Ydnam96 - Nov 8, 2005 11:09 pm (#1665 of 2980)

I was trying to stay awake because I had a staff meeting to go to and once I fall asleep it is soooo hard to wake up and go do more work. But I was so tired that right after I posted I did go take about an hour nap.

We just got done with our staff meeting and I was just checking my email and then I'm gonna go to bed- but it's such a habit every time I get online I have to check the forum. It's a part of my routine. I go on autopilot Smile

But you are right, it is now time to go to bed.

Night all!


The giant squid - Nov 9, 2005 3:31 am (#1666 of 2980)

Finn, you disappoint me...not one comment about me going to bed at 3AM? You're slipping, old man.

I'll keep giving my sister crud about the name, but I think it's a lost cause--she can be very stubborn when she wants to, and this time she has her husband's backing (something in the water, maybe). I figure karma will get them when he comes to them at age 14 and says, "I want to change my name. Cobain is stupid."

You know, if they'd just gone with "Kurt", I'd've rolled my eyes and gone along with it...but "Cobain"? Why??



Chemyst - Nov 9, 2005 6:26 am (#1667 of 2980)

So, her husband is in on it?  Does that make it a co-bane?

Bane - something that causes misery; something that causes ruin


Good Evans - Nov 9, 2005 6:46 am (#1668 of 2980)

Oh Lina - I havent been on my home email for a couple of days - I will go there tonight - promise!!!! and an advance thank you so much! I will post asap...

Azi - now you see, there are few of us here that can relate to how wonderful (and very naughty) 800 grams of Cadbury Chocolate is - but I am there with you, I hope it is Dairy Milk - the best!!!

as for Tim Curry - love him to death - whether he is Frank N furter or pennywise the clown in IT, a very under rated actor. I

bought the 3 musketeers simply because he was in it!!

as for Cobain - I am sorry to say that I think it sounds awful - why doesnt she call him (if indeed it is a him) Curt instead? not my favourite name but definitely better than Cobain!


Lina - Nov 9, 2005 7:35 am (#1669 of 2980)

It seems to me that you guys will have to accept the Cobain name. It doesn't sound strange to me at all. Not any stranger than many other names on the Forum. I have cousins with names Erik and Edgar. I don't know how strange those names might sound to you, but believe me, they are not common here at all. But they are two of the first things that I learned in my life and they have always sounded normal to me. I had to grow up quite a bit until I discovered that my cousins have strange names. Once that you meet this little charming guy, you will start to love his name as well.

When I saw the dragon on the GoF premiere in London, I just thought how they had to notify the Muggle Prime Minister that they are importing the dragon for the purposes of the premiere.


azi - Nov 9, 2005 7:58 am (#1670 of 2980)

Thanks Finn, I'm already better!

Julie - Of course it's Dairy Milk! It is the nicest Cadbury's chocolate, I agree.

Methinks I'm going to have to see this 'Clue' film. It sounds funny.

I don't like Cobain either, or Kurt for that matter. Maybe you should think of a good name and insist on calling the child that? (it's what my great-grandfather did; my grandad was born while he was at war and called Harold, but G-grandfather did not like that and forever called him James...)

Have a groovy day everybody!


Mrs. Sirius - Nov 9, 2005 8:09 am (#1671 of 2980)

Lina that is so funny. Eric and Edgar are not odd names here at all. although, Edgar is not as common. But that all depends on your perspective. My mother seemed never to get peoples names. She found names to be so strange and hard to pronounce. Names such as "Bob" and "Bill" or "Tom" or "Elizabeth". In the USA those have been traditionally some of the most common names. Names like "Eduvirgen" or "Mariaestella" "Marisol" are perfectly normal for my mother.

I found this particularly funny recently when in the course of work, I have to take names on the phone, and names such as "Cordova" or "Cabral" or "Balaguer" pronounced with an accent I can spell without asking. These names are not the common names in the USA.

Squid, when my girls were born, we had a tough time finding names for all those kids, so we played it safe and named 2 of the girls after their grandmothers, one of whom is named "Anastasia". We thought we had done a pretty decent job of it, but my sister called to say that was not a good name because kids would tease her and call her "anesthesia". We went ahead and called her that anyway. We've had no problems so far.

A comment on the way back post from Denise about losing valuables, I recently lost my keys to the van. I called the car company to get a new key, which they told us we would have to do when we bought it, they said no problem it's just --$35-- for a new key and ****$85*** to program the security code!!  Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 793915934

Although I had done a thorough search for the keys before, after hearing that price I searched everything again and eventually found the key in the garbage where I had thrown them in a fury after cleaning out all the junk kids had left behind in the van. I was going to show them I meant business about leaving garbage the van!!


Elanor - Nov 9, 2005 8:26 am (#1672 of 2980)

Hello everybody! I've been reading this thread those last days and I loved your posts but I was too tired for posting myself because of that nasty cold. I'm just starting to feel better and reading your last posts just made me think that eating some chocolate could well help a bit too!

I don't like Cobain very much either, so Marie, Mike, we're with you!

Tim Curry... I loved the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" but I had no idea he once played Richelieu too. **trying hard not to think of Tim Curry playing Richelieu in the ROPS's costumes **

Have a great day!

Audrey **sending healing and cheering charms all around**


Choices - Nov 9, 2005 9:57 am (#1673 of 2980)

Daniel Radcliff will be on The Regis and Kelly Show tomorrow (Thursday) in the USA - 10 o'clock Central time.


Finn BV - Nov 9, 2005 10:42 am (#1674 of 2980)

Mike, please see Finn BV, "Harry Potter" #2529, 6 Nov 2005 8:56 am. You obviously are slacking, ye olde squid.

Lina, Erik and Edgar are not exceptionally uncommon here (as uncommon as Finn ) but certainly not the most frequent names here.


Denise P. - Nov 9, 2005 11:11 am (#1675 of 2980)

Cobain, by itself, is not that far out there as a name. It is the association with the name that brings up a negative reaction. Kurt would have been a better choice if one was bent on naming a child for that specific individual. But I also have to admit that I am not fond of Kurt as a name either. Who I am to talk though? I have an Iain, Kierynn and Rhys! I found another mom who has an Aidan Rhys too..how weird is that? Have never found another Kierynn, girl, spelled that way. Sigrid named her son Cieran though. Same name, just different gender and spelling (hers is correct, it is a boy name)


Puck - Nov 9, 2005 11:26 am (#1676 of 2980)

Okay, so who was saying kids under the age of 5 don't lie? My 3 year old came downstairs yesterday with pink all around her mouth. I asked if she had been playing with my lipstick she said "No." I asked why her mouth was pink and she covered it with her hand and continued to deny what she had done. I finally got her to fess up, and then explained about lies and truth. (I neglected to mention that if you are going to lie, it's best not to have the evidence on your face!)

Glad all are on the mend. Perhaps thoughts of that name were making you ill? Unfortunately, if the parents are in agreement, you will have to live with it.

Will have to watch "Clue" at some point, as it seems I am one of the few who hasn't. Went to see "Rocky Horror" many times during college, though, and "Muppet Treasure Island" is in our DVD collection. (Funny, I was confused at the started of the discussion, as I kept thing of Tim Conway.)

Finn, have fun at the early screening! I still haven't worked out when I'm going to see it, but I'm thinking of running out one afternoon and giving Mr. Puck the chance to juggle 3 kids for a few hours.

Off to grab lunch now that my girls have both eaten! Wish I had some Cadbury in the house! (Caramello my favorite.)



Good Evans - Nov 9, 2005 11:47 am (#1677 of 2980)

well I have managed to post the picture - although it is a bit small! - my grateful thanks to Lina - and I will kep trying to get it to a size that is a bit clearer!! At least you all get the idea anyway. I wish I wasn't such a technopygmy!!!

have a lovely night everyone - I have ballroom class tonight so I have to go and get my dance shoes out - altogether - one two three ....


Tazzygirl - Nov 9, 2005 12:56 pm (#1678 of 2980)

I haven't seen 'Clue' either... Guess I should go and rent it!

Baby names- I have a few that still make me wonder what the parents were thinking. I lived in Mississippi for several years- and I went to school with two kids (brother and sister) whose names were 'Orangejello' and 'Lemonjello'. You pronounce them along the lines of Michelangelo... Yeah... I think that tops the weird baby name list...


Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 9, 2005 1:24 pm (#1679 of 2980)

My we're chatty recently! I think it's been two days since my last post and I had about 30 posts to read through!

Finn- Have a great time at the advanced screening. That's so awesome! I'm so jealous! Just don't spoil it for the rest of us who aren't so lucky.

Mike & Marie-I'm with you two. Cobain just isn't the greatest name in to world. Kurt would have been a better choice!

I think I'm going to have to join those of you who need to watch Clue! I have also never seen it, although I've heard from many people (on and off the forum) that it is extremely funny! I loved Tim Cury in rocky Horror Picture Show and Three Musketeers!

Things here are getting kind of hectic around here as the Fall Quarter at school comes to as end. I haven't had nearly enough time to hang out on the forum as I'd like. Although I have been spending more and more time in the chat room recently.

I talked to Aaron yesterday, and he again sends his thanks for all the thoughts and prayers from everyone!!



Finn BV - Nov 9, 2005 1:58 pm (#1680 of 2980)

Oh, wow, Tazzy, those poor kids!

Julie, your pic is a little small – I can only make out you wearing a witch's hat… try taking the pic to Microsoft Word, right-clicking/control-clicking, and choosing "Save As Picture". Then a save window will appear. Find the picture in wherever you saved it, and find the size of it (Get Info, or whatever they call it on a PC). You can adjust the size in Word.

Glad you have heard from Aaron, Jenn. It's great he can stay in touch.


haymoni - Nov 9, 2005 2:20 pm (#1681 of 2980)

Hey all!

It's Open Enrollment time, so I am hard at work collecting forms and explaining about deductibles and co-pays and all that fun stuff.

It's the most wonderful time of the year!

I might get talk to you all again in December.


Lina - Nov 9, 2005 2:28 pm (#1682 of 2980)

Mrs. Sirius, that was most certainly a tough job, inventing three names at once. And congratulations on finding a key!

Elanor, belated healing charms your way! Here, have some tea with cookies,

Denise P. : I found another mom who has an Aidan Rhys too..how weird is that?
LOL, Denise, this sounds at least interesting! We chose a name Veronika because we thought that this is an example of a rare name that is not odd, at least here. Then we lived in a building where there were two more Veronikas! One of them is in the same day-care group with my youngest daughter.
Cobain, by itself, is not that far out there as a name. It is the association with the name that brings up a negative reaction.
That's exactly what I was trying to say. Although I have no idea about the source of the negative association, I just guess that the little boy will start to be a source of the positive associations, since the parents seem to be quite stubborn...

Haymony, an anti-Dementor shield for you!

Julie, I think we will have to have another chat...


Tazzygirl - Nov 9, 2005 2:51 pm (#1683 of 2980)


Just to let you know there are two more people joining us HP night- they work with Scott. If you know anyone who would like to go, let me know and I'll see if I can get more tickets... just one more week!!!!!! Yeay!!



Puck - Nov 9, 2005 3:20 pm (#1684 of 2980)

Escaping for a few minutes. My kids are in crabby moods this afternoon. I still haven't managed to do the dishes, and it's almost dinner! (I started a stew this morning, so at least that's done.)

And I come here to find people doing yard work and cleaning plants! Making us lazy types look bad! *grin*

Bay's done eating, going to try to get some smiles!



Herm oh ninny - Nov 9, 2005 4:41 pm (#1685 of 2980)

Hey guys! Well, as I posted in the “you know you’re a HP fan when . . .”  thread, I bought 4 tickets for GOF in Imax in NYC and also tickets for the midnight show on Thursday night!! I can barely contain my excitement!! I printed out my Imax tickets from Fandango and I was showing them to everyone at work today! LOL Two of my non HP fan co-workers/friends called me a loser! Whatever

I LOVE CLUE!!! I watch my Clue DVD at least once a week! I love Murder by Death too.

Well, off to class


timrew - Nov 9, 2005 5:37 pm (#1686 of 2980)

D J Evans:- I kept hoping that Tim would land a part in one of the HP movies. I thought he might would have been good as Peeves.....

For a moment I thought you meant me, and not Tim Curry.

Although a fat Peeves with a beard would have been an interesting concept..........


Viola Intonada - Nov 9, 2005 8:11 pm (#1687 of 2980)

*Pictures Tim in "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"*

Tazzygirl, were the Lemonjello and Orangejello twins by any chance from Ohio. I know several people who have come across them. One of my friend's husband had them in class, junior high I believe, about ten years ago or so. Several people I worked with in a medical lab had come across them from time to time, too.

I worked in a medical lab for several years. I wish now that I had kept a log of all of the unusual names that we had come across. In several cases, I felt that the parents should have been made to wait 24 hours to name their child (to decrease the risks of naming a child while under the influence of drugs or the pain of the event) and receive some counseling on the life the child will bear with this name. They should also be required to spell check the name first, too. :goofygrin: (This is, of course, all tongue-in-check. What seems horrible to some, is quite beautiful to others. We are all entitled to our own opinion, as long as we don't force it down other’s throats. )


Denise P. - Nov 9, 2005 8:43 pm (#1688 of 2980)

Who remembers the episode on ER a few seasons back? A mom wanted to name her new daughter "Cher" but wanted a unique spelling so she chose C-h-a-i-r

Oh, Madam Pince....this is a different "Sirius" outfit. Iain got this as a gift in July 2001. Keep an eye on your snail mailbox! I have no doubt young Mr. P will look equally dashing with more bold Sirius stripes


Tazzygirl - Nov 9, 2005 11:02 pm (#1689 of 2980)

Viola Intonada wrote- "Tazzygirl, were the Lemonjello and Orangejello twins by any chance from Ohio. I know several people who have come across them. One of my friend's husband had them in class, junior high I believe, about ten years ago or so. Several people I worked with in a medical lab had come across them from time to time, too.'

No- they were born and raised 'Mississipians'!

My mom had tried to keep a log of the unusual names (she was a substitute teacher), but it didn't really work, she lost track!


Marie E. - Nov 10, 2005 12:03 am (#1690 of 2980)

I had always heard the story of Orangejello and Lemonjello was an urban myth. You mean it's true? Those poor people.

I'm glad Mike mentioned the nickname Coby to our sister because I was too chicken to do it. I've resigned myself to the name. It could be worse. I'll focus on the joy of the occasion: I get to buy teeny baby clothes! And those eeny weeny shoes!


The giant squid - Nov 10, 2005 12:22 am (#1691 of 2980)

So, her husband is in on it? Does that make it a co-bane?—Chemyst

Absolutely. Like Marie said, I've resigned myself to it. I'll let our mom do the guilt thing, she's so much better at it.

Maybe you should think of a good name and insist on calling the child that?—azi

I like it! "Hey, Brendan, come here." "His name is Cobain!" That's what I said, Brendan..." I'd be lucky to escape with my life.

azi, Tazzygirl, etc. you absolutely must rent Clue: The Movie. It's just that funny.



Amilia Smith - Nov 10, 2005 1:06 am (#1692 of 2980)

Sounds wonderful Tazzy! The more the merrier. I can't tell you how excited I am to have a group to go to the movie with. I am in the process of converting my coworkers to Pottiness: we have been listening to my CDs, and I've been giving out the addresses to the best websites. But the two who are most excited about GoF don't live in town . . .

They should also be required to spell check the name first, too.

That's how I ended up with Amilia. Really. My mom thought that was how you spelled Amelia. It used to bug me to no end when I was little, having to correct my kindergarten teacher on how to spell my name. Not only is it an unusual name to begin with (although there are more cropping up all the time :-)), but I had to spell it weird too. I've grown to like it though. Amilia is just so much more symetrical than Amelia. And I quit caring how my name was spelt. I will now answer to Amelia, Emilia, Amilya, or any other variation you can come up with, no questions asked.

Although I have no idea about the source of the negative association, . . .

Lina, Kurt Cobain was the lead singer of a very popular rock band who committed suicide in 1994.

Congrats on the early movie tickets, Finn! And what do you mean you won't give out spoilers? What kind of a friend are you anyway? :-) Also, are we to understand from your second line of information that you are marching in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, or does the "I" refer to the turkey?

I have somehow lost my fork. Just so you know, it you boil them long enough, it is possible to mash potatos with a spoon.



Lina - Nov 10, 2005 5:18 am (#1693 of 2980)

Kurt Cobain was the lead singer of a very popular rock band who committed suicide in 1994.

Ouch! I see now. It is almost like naming the kid Voldemort. There must be something you can still do, Marie and Mike... I'm sending you some persuading charms!


Chemyst - Nov 10, 2005 5:30 am (#1694 of 2980)

Seeing as how us procrastinators like to binge on low-priority activities, (to keep us from our real work,) I googled Lemonjello and Orangejello. While there are many blogs and articles that claim these guys as real, I think they would have shown up on Oprah by now if they were. The various stories put them in over half a dozen different states, sometimes employed as deputies and other times as football running backs. There are even different pronunciations: Leh-MON-jeh-low or Lem-awn-ja-LO


Puck - Nov 10, 2005 6:40 am (#1695 of 2980)

Mills, even if you use the typical spelling, people nowadays still need help. I've seen many variations of Maya, and people have been asking how we're spelling Natalie. It is the trend here to make the spelling as unique (aka complicated) as possible.

I had ordered "Disney Adventures" magazine for my son, and quickly grabbed the first couple that arrived, as they had interviews with GoF cast. There was even a part about who would win a battle between Voldy and Darth Vader! (Voldy wins, of course. He'd just AK Darth and the Storm Troopers.)

Off to read the "how to" thread to figure out how to do that smily face thing!



Lupin is Lupin. Natch. - Nov 10, 2005 8:19 am (#1696 of 2980)

Martha's got Daniel Radcliffe. I wonder if he'll make Hagrid's teacakes.


Puck - Nov 10, 2005 8:41 am (#1697 of 2980)

Saw Dan Radcliffe on Regis this morning. Thanks to whoever gave the heads up! Emma Watson will be on Tuesday's show. From the scene they showed, the movie has taken a few liberties compared to the book, changing bits and pieces, not just leaving parts out.



Gina R Snape - Nov 10, 2005 8:52 am (#1698 of 2980)

I saw Martha advertising for the show at 11. It was very odd, to say the least, to see her waving a wand and saying Wingardium Leviosa. You think she's a witch or a muggle?


Ydnam96 - Nov 10, 2005 9:10 am (#1699 of 2980)

Oh, a muggle alll the way. Well, she could be a squib. (sorry Martha is not my favorite person). Love the avatar Gina. And nice to see you around Smile

So as far as weird names, well not so much weird as wrong: in my high school we had twin (girls) named Billy Jo and Bobby Jo. We also had twins named John and Jonathan. I kid you not. Their father's name was John and grandfather as well. They were identical. It was weird.

It's raining here, which is great

Happy Thursday.


Loopy Lupin - Nov 10, 2005 9:36 am (#1700 of 2980)

Seeing as how us procrastinators like to binge on low-priority activities, (to keep us from our real work,) I googled Lemonjello and Orangejello.—Chemyst

I don't think these guys are real. Snopes.com has a page on these and other names. You'll have to figure out how to find it yourselves because it's not forum friendly.
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Viola Intonada - Nov 10, 2005 9:51 am (#1701 of 2980)

Amilia, I have to say I never gave the spelling of your name a second thought. It is still recognizable as Amelia. Names have so many different spellings now a days.

My mom wanted my oldest sister's middle name to be "Anne". The nurse told her it wasn't spelled that way and so spelled it "Ann" on the birth certificate. To this day my sister's middle name is without the "e". (The church we attended in the same town as the hospital was St. Anne's Church, obviously the nurse was not a member. )

Mike and Marie, did you suggest Denephew as an alternative? :goofygrin:

My grandmother's name was Cleo June. She hated the name Cleo and so was always called June. I like the name, but, out of respect for my grandmother, I never used it for my children.


Elanor - Nov 10, 2005 10:12 am (#1702 of 2980)

Ladies and gentlemen, the weekend has started here! Yeah!!!!!!!!! November 11th is always a day off here (we commemorate the end of World War 1).

I thought of you all in class this morning. I was giving a test to my students and I asked them, once again, why it was a bad idea to try to copy the answers from their neighbours. The general answer was "his answers can be wrong!". Arrrghhhh! I sighed, took a deep breath and said "ok, we try again" before explaining again that tests were made to help them because they'll tell me what they did not understand and not to judge them. But I guess I'll have to say it again soon!

Marie, Mike, good idea to think your Mom will be able to make her feel guilty about the name, mothers are usually really experts on the subject.

Have you see the videos from the French premiere of GoF on Tuesday? The link was on Mugglenet and TLC. Dan even spoke French for his fans, that was very cute! And Clémence is definitely more Fleur-ish when she speaks French too. Too bad we have to wait till November 30 for seeing the movie here.

Have a great day everybody!


Good Evans - Nov 10, 2005 10:40 am (#1703 of 2980)

I'm on a long weekend too Elanor - on leave tomorrow and flexi day on monday - hoping to get some christmas shopping done too - I hate shopping in December!!

Thanks Lina - the picture is a better size and you can see most of the dress with the long sleeves and my wand!!! I'll leave it up til the end of the month and then it really will be christmas trees - or maybe it will be a pyramid as I'll be getting excited for my holiday!!

We had a management training day today - did you know that the type of shape that you most identify with tells you about your character? squares like regimented and conformity, squiggles are free spirits!!! I chose the triange which means I like clear lines of responibility and hierarchies (apparently) and my second choice was the sqiggle - so I like structure but am also a free spirit!!! hmmmnnnn I'll have to give this some thought!

Happy thursday everyone and I'll be in the chat room in a while


Choices - Nov 10, 2005 11:24 am (#1704 of 2980)

This was a Harry Potter morning. Daniel was on the Today Show, then Regis and Kelly and then Martha Stewart. :-) Emma Watson will be on Regis and Kelly next Tuesday (15th) but I will be watching all three shows to see if she does like Daniel and appears on them all. BTW, Daniel said he is 16 and I say he is so cute and seems like a very nice young man!!


Madam Pince - Nov 10, 2005 11:32 am (#1705 of 2980)

And those eeny weeny shoes! –Marie

Oh, I know! I am such a sucker for little teeny baby shoes and socks! I got so many for Little Pince and he hardly wore any of them, but they are sooooo adorable!

Didn't Tazzy say she actually knew the "Jello" twins? It couldn't be an urban legend if she did.... Or maybe I misunderstood...???


DJ Evans - Nov 10, 2005 12:37 pm (#1706 of 2980)

Question -- do we know if "Cobain" will have a middle name? Maybe, as Viola Intonada was talking about, you could use either his middle name or at least his initials? Marie E & Mike, remember you will be this child's aunt/uncle -- it's in the bylaws, somewhere I'm sure, that you've got the right to nickname him. Smile hee hee

Tim: "For a moment I thought you meant me, and not Tim Curry."

Hmm, our very own Tim as Peeves? Yep, now that you mentioned it, I could see that -- I mean you have been titled with "King of Spew.

Oooo put me with the group who goes all soft & mushy on the baby shoes & socks too. And the pants (jeans especially) for the little ones? How adorable are those?

Finn -- you mean you aren't going to share "any" inside info with us when you get to see GoF early? That's not right, shame on you.....brhahahahaha Nope, you must give us something in the GoF movie thread. Please....pretty please?

Later, Deb


Kerfuffle - Nov 10, 2005 1:02 pm (#1707 of 2980)

Long time lurker, infrequent poster. I just have to put in my 2 knuts about Cobain. I like SquidMike's nickname of Coby. Tell your sister you will only call your nephew Coby Teeth (variation of Toby Keith -country singer) and invent a whole persona for little Coby. Maybe he could be a hillbilly singer with bad teeth and want to play the banjo when he grows up.

Naming a child after one of your interests means that child will be asked for the rest of his/her life *did your parents like...*


Finn BV - Nov 10, 2005 1:31 pm (#1708 of 2980)

Mills – I'll be happy to say anything if you'd like, all I've been getting from my friends is to say absolutely nothing! Haha – no, the turkey is talking in my second line of info. I will be in Maine for Thanksgiving like always.

Leh-MON-jeh-low –Chemyst

Though I considered LEH-mon-jell-oh, Tazzy said it sounds like "Michaelangelo," so I went with that.

Better pic, Julie! Thanks!

Deb, ok, ok, I will see what the policy is regarding spoiler and stuff from the movie… maybe I'll give you guys one juicy tidbit. Hey, from the YKYAHPLFW thread… How do you keep a Gryffindor in suspense?


Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 10, 2005 2:06 pm (#1709 of 2980)

How do you keep a Gryffindor in suspense? –Finn

Finn, you can't just walk away without telling us the answer!! The suspense is too much! Actually, I tried that on Aaron yesterday and he just laughed at me and said "Nice try, I'm in Hufflepuff...duh!" I think he's lying! Surely anyone in the military would be in Gryffindor IMHO!

Orangejello and Lemonjello? This topic sounds familiar. Didn't we talk about these twins a few months ago as well? Over the summer perhaps? I'm not complaining, I just want to make sure I'm not going insane!

Viloa-I sent you another e-mail about GoF in Cleveland! I don't really want to get into it here, but let me know when you get it! Sorry for the late notice!

I hope everyone is feeling better! Healing charms to anyone who isn't!!

Well, I'll be in the chat room for a bit longer if anyone else wants to join us!!



Tazzygirl - Nov 10, 2005 2:13 pm (#1710 of 2980)

Yes, I knew two kids named Lemonjello and Orangejello- they are real. And Chemyst is right with the pronounciation- I am horrible at pronouncing names correctly and writing them out- I thought I would put Michelangelo so you all could somehow get the idea of it. (I might have been a little off! But the last part is true- 'angelo')Now I need to go Google them to see what comes pops up! I just did a search on this thread to see if there was a another discussion on Lemonjello and Orangejello, and one person (Ladybug220)did bring it up back in September.

As for other twin names- My name is Kristina and my twin brother's name is Christopher- needless to say people keep calling us Kris and Chris- which I can't stand. I don't know how many times I have corrected these people! (Oh, and when we were born, my parents had agreed on naming me Kristina, while Chris was supposed to be something else. Taking advantage of my mom being kind of out of it from the drugs, Dad wrote Christopher on the birth certificate!)


azi - Nov 10, 2005 2:36 pm (#1711 of 2980)

Elanor, I wish it was the weekend for me!

I just finished writing my latest report (only 1400 words though) and have 2 practical sessions tomorrow, which inevitably lead to 2 more report write-ups. Saying that, I could've done the report a week ago, I just didn't bother (last minute thing again...).

I love your witches constume Julie! Are you going on holiday to Egypt? If so, I am envious!

I think Lemmonjello etc. are actually worse names than Cobain.

I'm sure I missed someone out here, apologies if so!

Have a brilliant day everybody!


T Brightwater - Nov 10, 2005 2:38 pm (#1712 of 2980)

My father once tried to tell my mother he wasn't married to her, since the name on their marriage certificate wasn't the same as the one on his birth certificate (Alonzo Buford instead of Buford Lonza, respectively), and she pointed out that neither was hers! (Hazel Inez instead of just Inez.) And, besides being adopted, I don't use my given first name and didn't change my last name when I got married...anyone trying to figure out what my "true name" is for magical purposes would have a hard time!


Denise P. - Nov 10, 2005 3:25 pm (#1713 of 2980)

Mr. Denise has his birth certificate wrong. Someone wrote his father's name as Robert Nellos instead of Robert Nicholas When we discovered this, it was not worth the $60 to change it but someday we may. His grandmother's birth certificate is wrong too. It lists her as being born in 1896 but she was born in December 1895. I am sure the doctor just didn't record it until 1896 and didn't think much about making sure the year was correct. She died in 2001 and always insisted that she had been born in 1895, family Bible supported it.


Honour - Nov 10, 2005 3:43 pm (#1714 of 2980)

Talking about names ... my husband told me a story about how his uncle got his er quite unusual name, for a New Zealander that is ...

Seems my father inlaw (when he was a child of 9) accompanied his dad to the registrar office to register the birth details of his brand new baby brother, as so often happens, while adults are busy filling in forms, children take the opportunity to ask questions, so whilst new Dad was filling in the appropriate form, 9 year old proeeded to ask, Dad, "why is the sky blue? how do planes stay up? dad,whats the name of that statue of the lady in America? you know the lady with the torch, Dad replies, "Liberty, the Statue of Liberty son". You guessed it! My husbands' uncle's name is Liberty Charles Smile


The giant squid - Nov 10, 2005 4:48 pm (#1715 of 2980)

Question -- do we know if "Cobain" will have a middle name?--DJ Evans

Apparently he will be saddled with the name Cobain Dean Brower. I suppse I could just call him Dean for the rest of his life...



DJ Evans - Nov 10, 2005 6:28 pm (#1716 of 2980)

hmmm? Well I think I would go with the Coby, IMO it's the best out of the suggestions so far. (like I really have a say in this hee hee) One good thing, I would think, at least she isn't naming him Kurt Cobain Brower.

About the strangest name I have from a person that I actually knew & that was one of my old bosses named her daughter "January". And you might wonder but no she was born in that month, I think she was born in November? But anyhoo strangely enough, after a bit it didn't seem all that strange of a name to me.

Then there is my grandmother -- Quinnie Zula Johnson. Quinnie Zula? ouch Sorry but it doesn't do a thing for me. Of course, that's not nearly as bad as an aunt somewhere in the family tree that was named "Icie". Maybe it was a cold & icy day when she was born? Smile

All right Finn, I was hoping you would share a bit of GoF with us ahead of time. Thanks!

Later, Deb


Soul Mate for Sirius - Nov 10, 2005 7:16 pm (#1717 of 2980)

one of my old bosses named her daughter January" "-Deb

Deb, I used to work with a girl named January. That's too funny. I too thought it was a weird name when I first met her, but now I find it normal. In fact, I think it's kind of pretty.

Anyway, right now I'm nice and relaxed. For the first time since I've joined the forum, I'm completely caught up on all my threads! So, I'm enjoying the about 30 seconds that's going to last!

Have a great night everyone!!



timrew - Nov 10, 2005 7:22 pm (#1718 of 2980)

Mike, aka Giant Squid:- Apparently he will be saddled with the name Cobain Dean Brower.

Commiserations, Mike. But look on the bright side........he could have been called Dweezle!..........or Rower Mower Brower.

My first name is Michael, but I've been called Tim all my life - so why they called me Mike in the first place calls up a whole raft of questions.............


Denise P. - Nov 10, 2005 8:38 pm (#1719 of 2980)

Tim, have you ever asked? :0 We have a reason why we call Rhys by his middle name rather than his first name but then it opens up why didn't we just make it his first name? LOL My dad has always been called by his middle name and we actually call my brother by his middle name now too (among family) so Rhys could be considered a third generation middle namer. Before caller ID, we could always tell it was a telemarketer when they would ask to speak to Chuck or Charles (his first name). He has always been Larry (except to his mom, she always called him Lawrence)


Viola Intonada - Nov 10, 2005 8:44 pm (#1720 of 2980)

Mike- Does your sister and her husband have an obsession with famous people who met with an early death? (i.e. Kurt Cobain, James Dean) I would really watch this child in his teen age years for signs of suicidal tendencies.

I know many people who go by their middle names, by the choice of the parents. My mom and her brother both go by their middle names.

My grandmother loved the name Timothy, but my grandfather didn't. So they named the third son Thomas, but my grandmother always called him Tim. Well, by the fifth son (seventh child) my grandfather finally relented and named him Timothy. So we had Big Tim and Little Tim in the same family. Mike is also a very common name in my family. I was not allowed to marry a Mike or a Tim, because one of my sisters married a Tim and the other a Mike.


Amilia Smith - Nov 10, 2005 10:41 pm (#1721 of 2980)

My little sister goes by her middle name. Before she was born, my folks considered several different names, including Wendy, for my mother's best friend in high school. By the time she was born, however, they had settled on Colette. At which point I, the two-year-old big sister, threw a fit, having had my heart set on Wendy. So they tacked on Wendy to please me. But as Wendy Colette just flows so much nicer than Colette Wendy . . . It has actually turned out to be rather handy. She always knows if a telemarketer is calling because they ask for Wendy. And she can honestly say, "No one here goes by that name."



Mrs. Sirius - Nov 10, 2005 11:12 pm (#1722 of 2980)

My first name is "Santa", so, no, I never use it, never permit anyone to call me that. And I get a little sensitive during certain times of the year. However it has come in handy with my kids, I have always been able to tell them truthfully, "Santa brought your Christmas gifts". My family has always called me Maritza. Which is not my legal name at all. Funny names do run in my family, my cousin was born Clara Iluminada Luna, my mother's middle name was Maria, her father was Jose and she had a brother Jesus (pronounced he-sues).

Keeping my house clean has been a challenge to say the least. So I finally acknowledged reality and got someone to help me. When we told the kids we were getting someone to clean, my youngest asked "is she our house elf?". We carefully explained that these people were simply coming to helping us to keep the house clean.

Has anyone heard about a move to eliminate the "leap second" from our time keeping method? It's a proposal that would effectively make Greenwich mean time as worthless. It seems so outrages that can't help but think I am being bamboozled.


Tazzygirl - Nov 10, 2005 11:54 pm (#1723 of 2980)

I have a couple friends who are named Winter and April (which is kind of common). I used to work with a girl named Tuesday.

And on younger sibling names- when my sister was born my brother and I weren't quite two, my brother was going through a phase where everyone was a deedle-dee or doodle-doo or something along those lines. Well, when my sister was born, my parents named her KellyAnne, but for some reason the nickname my brother gave her stuck, and it is now on her birth certificate. Her name is KellyAnne Deedlebop. When she graduated high school my parents wanted to take Deedlebop out and move Anne as the middle name, but she refused. She loves it. And our neighbor back in Utah is forever known as Doodle-doo (but her real name is Ruth). Talk about influence!


The giant squid - Nov 11, 2005 5:35 am (#1724 of 2980)

Viola, I hadn't really caught the James Dean connection--too caught up in the other name, I guess. I'll definitely keep an eye on him as he grows up...could be a bad omen.

Tim, Mrs. Sirius, I have a somewhat similar thing with my name--I'm named Michael, after my grandfather, Edward. Yup, that's right. Apparently when he was born he had bright red hair & an uncle or somebody said, "Now there's a good Irish Mick!" He was known as Mickey from then on.

An unconfirmed tale in our family is that at my grandparents' wedding the priest said, "Do you, Edward, take this woman...?" and my grandma interrupted with, "Your name is Edward?" Amid the laughter the priest asked if he should continue, or if they needed to talk first.

strangely enough, after all that I've never been called Mickey. It just doesn't fit, I guess.



Marie E. - Nov 11, 2005 7:27 am (#1725 of 2980)

Mike, I thought the "your name is Edward?" thing happened when they went to the courthouse for their marriage license. Either way, it really happened. Poor Grandma!

I just found out that Mr. E completely forgot about asking for the 25th and 26th of December off (he works Sundays). I asked for my days off as soon as my sister and I talked about doing Christmas together. I'm going to ask him every day now as he leaves for work. Oh, and there's finally an opening in the day shift so he'll be off nights in about a month. He's been working nights for almost two years now. The only down side is that Shayla has been walking home from school and now when she gets there the house will be empty. Before he was asleep, but at least he was home. Still, I'm glad he's going back to days.

one more week until GoF


Gina R Snape - Nov 11, 2005 9:18 am (#1726 of 2980)

I knew a girl named Tuesday when I was a kid. My brother Ricky has NO middle name, and people have argued with him that his first name 'can't' be Ricky. They get insistent that it must be short for Richard! And both my father and my eldest brother are called by their middle names.

Severus does not take kindly to nicknames. I've never been called anything besides Gina. No nicknames ever seem to stick to me.


Ida-ho-Potato - Nov 11, 2005 9:30 am (#1727 of 2980)

Well my first name is Ida. I have went around with the nicknames of "Idaho, Ida-ho-potato, and spud". Every now then people will call me Ida May, but that is wrong because I am Ida Rose, not May.

Most of my brothers and sister received unusual names. (i am the youngest of six) We were all named after relatives.

William (Billy) Clinton - after dad.

Bridget Adelle, First after mom, middle after Great Aunt who was a Nun.

Belinda Rose (Died at birth)- After Aunt.

Arthur Gerome - after Grandpa "Buster Arthur".

Louvena Sue - after Grandma.

Kevin Lee - After uncle who died at sea in the Navy.

Ida Rose - first name after Great Aunt Sister Adelle.(was born Ida and changed to Adelle when she became a Nun. Middle name is after Deceased sister.

I almost received a Nephew named Rock. My brother-in-law was determined that if he had a boy is name was going to be Rock. My sister saying "no-way".


Ydnam96 - Nov 11, 2005 9:44 am (#1728 of 2980)

I can understand about the "your name must me..." My mom named me Mandy, not Amanda, but people insist that must be my name.

I've often gotten teased about my last name. People are so original..”.I'm gonna Huff and puff and blow your house down.”  Like they were the first to think of that.

I have a friend whose name is Kathleen with no middle name. People think it's weird. She likes it.

I have a Great Aunty Nun. I didn't know her "real" name for 27 years! Evidently it's Sister Rose Edwards (I'm not sure where the Edwards came from...it's not a family name). Anyway. She's just Great Aunty Nun. What more do you need?


Good Evans - Nov 11, 2005 10:58 am (#1729 of 2980)

I was very nearly a "Gertrude" after my Dad’s favourite aunt, but luckily I got the middle name of Wendy from my aunt instead!!! phew!

My younger brother is Jeffery - which means it is almost never spelled (or pronounced- he is not jeff rey) correctly by others and he is also saddled with Barrington (family name) - having said that though - at least it isnt Cobain!!!


Denise P. - Nov 11, 2005 11:09 am (#1730 of 2980)

Way back, a few generations, I had a great-great-great-great grandfather (I think I went back far enough, my grandmother's great-great grandfather) who decided his girls didn't need a middle name since they could just use their maiden name once they were married. Since that time, none of the girls in my maternal family have a middle name. I don't and my girls don't either.


Ida-ho-Potato - Nov 11, 2005 11:21 am (#1731 of 2980)

My husband's Grandma Dalta and all her brothers and sisters were similar. The difference was that every one, boy or girl had the same middle name, which was their mother’s maiden name. The maiden name was Masten.

Dalta Masten Hodson

Hollis Masten Hodson

Dalta (Grandmother-in-law) once told me she dropped the Masten when she went to college. She did not want announced at graduation time "Dalta Masten Hodson". She said it sounded Masculine and did not want to be referred to in that way.

Oh get this, When she got married her last name did not change. She married another Hodson "Worth Hodson". They were distant cousins, removed 5 or 6 times. When I learned this I was going through the genealogy to see if that was what was wrong with my father-in-law. haha.


Elanor - Nov 11, 2005 12:01 pm (#1732 of 2980)

The family tradition, in my mother's family, is that everyone has the name of Marie either as a second name (for girls) or as a third name (for boys), the girls' third name and the boys' second name being the kid's godmother or godfather's name. Er... I'm afraid it doesn't seem very clear explained like that! Examples should be better:

My name is Audrey Marie Claire (Marie-Claire is my godmother)

My brother is named Luc Dominique Marie (Dominique being his godfather)

My mother is named Simone Marie Justine (her godmother was named Justine), one of her brothers is André Pierre Marie, etc...


Lina - Nov 11, 2005 12:22 pm (#1733 of 2980)

Mike: Apparently he will be saddled with the name Cobain Dean Brower.

This reminded me of the name I heard about recently. The kid was named Jamesdin (pronounced like ya-mess-din with the accent on the e). Since there live many Muslims here, people tended to assume that it was a Muslim name until they found out that he was actually named after James Dean, except his parents didn't know how to spell it or even that it is not just one name.

My great great grandfather wanted his son to be Grga (Gregor) and the first two sons who got this name died when they were still babies. So my great great grandmother became superstitious about that name and decided to name next son Blaz (Blase, Biaggio or even Blaise), but the father insisted on Grga. So he was the only one who called him Grga and everybody else called him Blaz.

Hello Ida, welcome to the Forum!

We planned to go to the puppet theatre today, but instead we went to the doctor. Fortunately Mihaela had high temperature and she looked really sick, so I took Veronika along. She complained only about headaches and I could never be sure if it is just her attempt not to go to school. It turned out that Veronika has a scarlet fever. Now she has the whole week off from school and seems to be happy to be sick. Fortunately, we didn't decide to take her to the Theatre while taking Mihaela to the doctor.


Tazzygirl - Nov 11, 2005 12:37 pm (#1734 of 2980)

Very interesting name stories! I was named after an aunt- Kristine Rae, but my parents didn't really like the sound of it so put an 'a' instead of an 'e'.

Welcome Ida!!


Eponine - Nov 11, 2005 1:13 pm (#1735 of 2980)

My niece Ruby is named after her great-grandmother, and before she was born I was not that keen on the name. Now of course, no other name would do for her.

I'm extremely glad I wasn't named after either of my grandmothers. One's name is Ahava (I don't know her middle name) and the other's name was Elsie Melvina Thelma Lou. Mr. Eponine's middle name is Malone, as is his dad's and his grandfather's and his great-grandfather's. It's a family tradition (obviously), so if we ever have a son, I've been informed that his middle name must be Malone.


Honour - Nov 11, 2005 1:26 pm (#1736 of 2980)

My paternal grandmother's name is Honoria, she was called Nora, my daughter became her name sake with a slight up-dating as well as being named after my dad's oldest sister and my mums oldest sister, hence "Honour Isabella Rose", my sons are named after their grandpa's, Rankin MacQuarrie,& Crighton Isaiah, my sisters have lovely names too, Yushane Corrina and Natalie Sophia...


Ida-ho-Potato - Nov 11, 2005 1:30 pm (#1737 of 2980)

Well it is a good thing that my husband Grandma did not pass on the tradition of making your maiden name your child's middle name. she had one son and could have been Donald Hodson Hodson or Eugene Hodson Hodson. He received the name Donald Eugene Hodson, and goes by Eugene. I have never heard be called Donald, not even by his mother.

Why would you name someone one thing and then only use there middle name. Why not make the middle first and the first middle, confusing eh.



Stephanie M. - Nov 11, 2005 3:06 pm (#1738 of 2980)

Hey everyone!! I haven't posted here in a little while!

Well, I don't have anything to say about middle names, really. My middle name is Amanda, but no one calls me that. But I hate how it starts with the letter A because my initials spell SAM. My parents thought that if I didn't like being called Stephanie of Steph, then people could call me Sam, and I thought that was a little too masculine for me, even though I like the name Sam.

This has been the last week of the trimester here, so I have had tests and projects all week. But it's over now!!!

I'm very happy that I don't have a lot to do at the moment, but I'm also very tired. But I just got upset again because I was toasting cinnamon bread (without raisins, I don't like raisins) and it was heated on a higher setting in the toaster oven, so now my toast is burnt. And I don't remember where I left my swimming bag at school. There isn't anything very valuable in there except my wet swim suit and my 2 pairs of goggles. I left it in one of four places, so I'm not happy. But it will be okay. LOL that was very random!

Finn, I'm so jealous that you are going to see GoF on Monday!!! PLEASE don't tell me anything!! I'll stay away from the GoF Movie thread for a while.

Have a good rest of the day/night everyone!!


The giant squid - Nov 11, 2005 4:51 pm (#1739 of 2980)

She's just Great Aunty Nun. What more do you need?--Ydnam96

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Marie, I had never heard the story from Grandma herself, and the way tales change in the telling...

Lina: It's amazing how that happens sometimes, you take one kid in to the doctor to find out it's the other one that's sick! Clearly it was your "mother's intuition" that prompted you to take Veronika along, right?

Stephanie, I feel your pain. My initials are MEW. Could be worse, though--my cousin's are PEW.



T Brightwater - Nov 11, 2005 5:13 pm (#1740 of 2980)

I was called by my first name or a nickname through junior high, but when I got to high school, I decided I liked my middle name better, especially since it doesn't appear in any Christmas carols.


timrew - Nov 11, 2005 5:30 pm (#1741 of 2980)

Okay, Denise, I'll ask - never thought of doing it before!

Will report back............


Finn BV - Nov 11, 2005 6:15 pm (#1742 of 2980)

Ah, yes, everyone comes up to me and says, "So Finn is short for Finnigan, right? Or Phineas?" I need a sign posted to my forehead that says "IT'S JUST FINN!"

Welcome to the forum, Ida.

Gee, Audrey, your parents sure liked the name Marie, huh?

Lina, "cheering" charms () to Veronika. Whole week off from school, that's just devastating… Hope she gets better! How horrible!

Your toast is burnt, Steph? What a tragedy! Yes, the trimester is finally over! I've been so exhausted!

It's about 8:15pm here and I've been exhausted since 8:15am. The entire day has just been moving along so slowly! I nearly feel asleep in History, which is basically impossible because I love my teacher and she is by far the most energetic person you have ever met – even she was tired! I think I'm going to go to bed now… it took me about ten minutes to write this post… *yawn* Good night, all!


Chemyst - Nov 11, 2005 7:58 pm (#1743 of 2980)

T Brightwater, Don't you know someone named Moreorangejello?  (Morrongiello)


DJ Evans - Nov 11, 2005 8:39 pm (#1744 of 2980)

Jenn, seriously you knew a January too? You're right that is too funny. I thought it was such a unique name but maybe not. Well, not unless it happens to be the same girl? hmmmm, wonder? And though I liked it on her, I still have a hard time in thinking that it would fit on anyone else.

Anyhoo, I was reading the obituaries this morning (I know sad but you never know who you might know in there) and there was a young woman listed and her first name was "Sunday". Now two things popped in my head -- 1) Sunday for a name? (weird) & 2) Must tell the gang.

Lina -- Hope the girls get to feeling better soon. Healing charms sent your way.

Later, Deb


Stephanie M. - Nov 11, 2005 8:44 pm (#1745 of 2980)

Your toast is burnt, Steph? What a tragedy! –Finn

LOL I was so tired when I wrote that my toast was burnt! I went out to dinner and came back around 8:20pm and I was reading some of I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings for English and I fell asleep for about 40 mins and now I'm awake, but pretty tired. I'm going to go to bed soon.

Tomorrow, I'm going to the Live PotterCast/MuggleCast with my sister. I plan to take a ton of pictures, if I can get a good spot. We are leaving out house around 4pm and we should leave Barnes & Noble around 10pm, I think.

**Time to sleep**

Good night everyone!!


dizzy lizzy - Nov 11, 2005 9:00 pm (#1746 of 2980)

The story goes in my family that when my sister and I were born, our mother was "so exhausted" she couldn't think of any middle names...

Mind you when the brother was born, guess who got a middle name then .  Chat & Greetings 2005 - Page 8 1242194059

I've always been known as Liz or Lizzy. Very few people call me Elizabeth (generally my Mum, and businesses etc) and only my orthopeadic surgeon calls me Eliza.

However when I am talking to strangers or people I don't know (either in a personal or work related capacity), I use my full name and don't allow it to be shortened until I've sussed the person out. To this day I still have people I know who still call me Elizabeth.

I went out to my remote area workload last week. Along the way, there and back, I saw 5 pelicans, dozens and dozens of Galahs and parrots,