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John Bumbledore wrote:This topic was opened to archive the above titled thread from the Harry Potter Lexicon Forum (HPLF) as it was created and hosted on World Crossing (WX) until WX ceased operation on 15 April 2011.
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+ JK Rowling Official Site Vol 3 (14 Jul 2005 - 1 Nov 2007)

Kip Carter - Jul 14, 2005 2:02 pm
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Almost fourteen months ago (15 May 2004), Jo Rowling provided enjoyment to those awaiting the release of Book Six, her own web site. Immediately Liz Mann started a thread at 7:39am PST that became one of the most popular threads on the Lexicon Forum with this thread being the third of the series. The original thread JK Rowling Official Site has Permanent status, has been renamed [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and has been moved to our Archived folder. The second thread JK Rowling Official Site has Permanent status, has been renamed [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and eventually will move to our Archived folder. Hopefully much of the data concerning the clues on the site will be preserved when our editors edit the first two threads.

The J.K.Rowling page in the Lexicon Sources area provides excellent insight to what is available on Ms. Rowling's Official web site.

These are all the working links to Jo’s site:

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Ms Amanda - Jul 14, 2005 1:56 pm (#1 of 2974)
Edited by Kip Carter Jul 14, 2005 2:08 pm

I'm awaiting the arrival of Book 6, and I'm wondering, will I have to avoid JKR's site for fear of spoilers?

Did she have a site up for the last book, and were there spoilers on it? I've seen the little Dark Marks were all that really separate old spoilers from greeting me.

Since I don't have much of a will power to avoiding spoilers when they're close, I think I'll just stay away from the JKR site for awhile. That's a pity because this is my favorite thread!

Comments on Ms Amanada's questions:In regards to your first question concerning Ms. Rowling's site, I do not believe she has provided an official position in regards to spoilers yet. However, she may, or may in the near future, and I am sure one of our members will post an answer.

Second question: No! Book Five was released 21 June 2003 and the JK Rowling Official Site began 15 May 2004 (eleven months later).

I hope this helps!

Herm oh ninny - Jul 14, 2005 1:57 pm (#2 of 2974)

I have just checked Jo's site for the 5th time today, praying for something new! But, alas, nothing. Maybey she has already prepared something but it won't be posted until tomorrow. Either way, tomorrow will be a day to remember. It's almost here, heheheheheh..... rubs hands fiendishly!!

So Sirius - Jul 14, 2005 4:10 pm (#3 of 2974)

I also find it a bit odd that the door hasn't opened nor has the poll question been answered, yet. I really thought that poll would be something to answer before the book arrived, perhaps tomorrow.

As for me, I'll have the book in my hands tomorrow night, albeit late, i'll then stay up reading through the night. OOTP took about a day to read, I assume this one should be similar.

HungarianHorntail11 - Jul 14, 2005 5:36 pm (#4 of 2974)

I do wish she'd have thrown us a bone and opened the door with a tickler for us - just to get us through. Oh well, almost there . . .

Aqualu Nifey - Jul 14, 2005 5:47 pm (#5 of 2974)

Get us through the one day, six hours, fourteen minutes, and fifty seconds... forty seven seconds....

Please!!!!!!!! Just give me a little something, maybe, please? The first sentence would be enough. ...The first word would be fine!

Edit: One day, six hours, twelve minutes, and thirty seconds....

Kwikspell - Jul 14, 2005 5:55 pm (#6 of 2974)

I thought for sure she would answer the poll question before the book's release (though I think I may have figured out how the Order communicates on my own). Oh well, there's always tomorrow, I guess.

One more sleep until I have the HBP in my hands! Except, the closer we get to the release, the harder it is for me to sleep.

Aurora Gubbins - Jul 15, 2005 12:20 am (#7 of 2974)

I'm almost in tears with anticipation...I just know I'll find myself sitting on the doorstep in the morning waiting for the owl!

Happy reading everyone!

Aurora xx

Elanor - Jul 15, 2005 1:36 am (#8 of 2974)


There is finally the answer to the poll question and it is, of course, a very interesting one!

How could this day possibly be any brighter? Thank you so much Jo!

Chard11 - Jul 15, 2005 2:14 am (#9 of 2974)


I don't know if my imagination is being a bit limited here but I thought time and distance matttered in magic. How could a Patronus travel from Hogwarts to Grimauld Place for instance?

Also how can a silver, glowing animal form zoom across England without muggles seeing it?

Sorry to put a downer on the answer we've been aiting ages for.

dizzy lizzy - Jul 15, 2005 2:14 am (#10 of 2974)

It is a very interesting answer Elanor...It raises a few questions of its own doesn't it???

Thanks for letting me know the site had been updated. I was just about to go and catch up on some sleep. 14 hours to go!!!!!


Ann - Jul 15, 2005 2:36 am (#11 of 2974)

Ah, I thought that was a patronus. Of course, I've been so wrong about other things--for example, I thought the poll questions were a clue in themselves about what was going to be important in HBP. Oh well, as she says, we'll know all sorts of answers in a few days!

New canon! What can be more exciting? Happy reading, everyone!

Lina - Jul 15, 2005 4:28 am (#12 of 2974)

I totally agree with you Lizzy, that the answer is interesting and that it makes more questions. Does it mean that a Patronus can speak? We have already seen Harry giving orders to the Patronus, so it does seem possible to communicate with him. Oh, and this could mean that we could meet Snape's Patronus in this book. And well, so many other questions are arising, but maybe for other threads.

It is not less then 12 hours for me, though, it is still 4 days before my owl comes...

Good Evans - Jul 15, 2005 5:11 am (#13 of 2974)

I just knew there would be an update - hooray - hoorah woo hoo - now just to calm down until midnight 10 hours and 50 mins.......

Kwikspell - Jul 15, 2005 5:15 am (#14 of 2974)

Well, then, just how does a Patronus communicate with the message recipient? Does this mean Harry's stag (which I've always thought to be another echo of his father) can talk to Harry? Also, does this mean the Order won't accept anyone who can't perform the Patronus spell? Lupin said it was difficult for many qualified wizards to perform.

Isn't it funny that when Jo answers questions, it usually just leads to more questions?

17 hours for me. I'd better get some more sleep. Wasn't too easy to fall off last night...

The giant squid - Jul 15, 2005 5:16 am (#15 of 2974)

Isn't it funny that when Jo answers questions, it usually just leads to more questions?
It's this quality of her writing that keeps us coming back for more.


Good Evans - Jul 15, 2005 5:31 am (#16 of 2974)

You know that was my thought too - just how do the patronus' pass the messages? And Jo saying it was revealed in GOF - well not really it was just a hint. I now want to see this in action. And still I am desperate to know what everyone elses patronus is - Snape - Lupin - Moody!!

Potterhead - Jul 15, 2005 5:39 am (#17 of 2974)

The first thought I had was that this was how Snape communicated with Sirius after Harry gave him the urgent cryptic message in Umbridge's office. Didn't DD say that Order members have a more reliable means of communication than the fire in Dolores Umbridge's office? Well, then I wanted to know what Snape's and Sirius' patronuses are (were, in the case of Sirius). And since we all get the feeling (or maybe it's just me) that Snape's patronus is going to be very revealing and tell us things about him we never really knew, and since Sirius still mistrusted and resented Snape to the very end, even when he had this personal bit of information about Snape's patronus, I especially want to know what Snape's patronus is. It's so true -- my curiosity is piqued rather than appeased.

Also, with regard to time and distance, JK said DD teaches the Order members how to use their patronuses in this particular way, so I think there is a lot more to how it is actually accomplished that would explain the rather extraordinary performance of a "wisp of vapor". Do they speak? Probably not. Perhaps it is more of a signal with some sort of code worked out amongst the members.

skh - Jul 15, 2005 5:44 am (#18 of 2974)

Was kinda hoping we'd get an answer today, but was afraid to say it out loud!

I Like the answer - I love the idea that perhaps a rite of passage to joining the order is being able to produce a patronus? That'd be cool! And love the fact that the DA are even more like a mini-Order, as they've been practising their patronuses! (or should that be patron-i?!)

I think the patronuses are cool as well, as the order will def always know that a phoenix is from Dumbledore for example, as they are both individual and un-fake-able (new word of the day!). Also, an interesting thought is "what if Voldie worked it out and discovered how to replicate / duplicte them"?

Can't wait to find out what everyone elses Patronus is - how about Meer Cat for Moody, peering everywhere all the time?!

EDIT -- Potterhead, I agree with a lot of what you say - the idea that even non-order Patronus producers don't know how to use their patronus in this fancy way... i.e. making it a wisp and letting it some how signal another order member.


charlie simmons - Jul 15, 2005 5:53 am (#19 of 2974)

Hello for the first time.

Has there been any indication that a Patronus can only be performed by a "good" wizard, as it is an anti-dark arts spell?

If so, this would explain why Dumbledore and the other members of the OOTP trust Snape. Although, it doesn't explain why they wouldn't just tell Harry that so that he would trust Snape more.

Good Evans - Jul 15, 2005 5:54 am (#20 of 2974)

Do you think that they used this communication technique in the first war? If so Peter used it too... which means LV knows about it. JK says something about repelling dark magic / dark arts ... how will this work with pettigrew - oh you are so right questions, questions ...

cross posted with charlie - we are thinking along the same lines I think

Mare - Jul 15, 2005 6:00 am (#21 of 2974)

maybe Snape's patronus is a big dog...

Quibbler Editor In Chief - Jul 15, 2005 6:15 am (#22 of 2974)

Just wondering what Hagrid's patronus could be or if he is excused from using one since he isn't supposed to use magic.

I thought this was very interesting and luckily it didn't give away any big parts of the plot for HBP either!

Chard11 - Jul 15, 2005 6:28 am (#23 of 2974)

I would have thought Sirius Patronus would have been a large dog. It appears as though its their inner animal (if that makes any kind of sense). Harry being so like James, James could turn into a stag and Harry's Patronus is a stag. Dumbledore havng a pet phoenix (Fawkes) and his patronus is a phoenix.

Sorry if I'm talking utter rubbish... just a bit excited lol

charlie simmons - Jul 15, 2005 6:37 am (#24 of 2974)

Great minds think alike Good Evans!

I agree the explanation of magic always opens more questions than it answers. Luckily for JKR she can always fall back on "I invented this spell, and that's just how it works!" as long as she's consistent of course.

14 hours and 24 minutes in my time zone!

IR Waiting - Jul 15, 2005 6:38 am (#25 of 2974)

Thank you all for confirming that I am not crazy. As usual JKR does not ever just come out and reveal anything. The only thing that I recall is the arrow like white form that Dumbledore sent to summon Hagrid. Maybe this shows the working of JKR's mind in that she has all of this additional information running around her brain but does not include it in her books. With this line of thought in mind the the Harry Potter universe is truly much bigger than we know.

14 hours 19 minutes....

Grindylow - Jul 15, 2005 6:45 am (#26 of 2974)

Speaking of Patronuses (Patron-i), what would Lily's have been?

LooneyLuna - Jul 15, 2005 7:15 am (#27 of 2974)

I think it's interesting that JKR said that Dumbledore invented this method of communication. Thank you for the update, JKR!!!

Magnadoodle - Jul 15, 2005 7:32 am (#28 of 2974)
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Dont u just HATE it when she says we pick the obvious questions - am hoping that tomorrow she will maybe answer the other 2 questions for us as a treat...........am off to Borders 2nite to collect my book - then the DO NOT DISTURB SIGN is going on my front door until I have read HBP from cover to cover twice. Hope everyone who is going to launch parties tonite have loads a fun - I know I will Smile xx Magna

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Madam Pince - Jul 15, 2005 7:37 am (#29 of 2974)

This seems like a silly question, but it's been so long since I've checked the FAQ poll that I've forgotten what the other questions even were. Does anybody remember?

Edit: I tried to do "Search" but didn't even know what keyword to try.

Magnadoodle - Jul 15, 2005 7:43 am (#30 of 2974)

They are in this thread somewhere I am sure.... will look

Ydnam96 - Jul 15, 2005 7:55 am (#31 of 2974)

You know, I was slightly dissapointed with the answer...I share the same questions as you all do about how these patroni travel such long distances without being noticed and exactly how do they deliever a message? Can they talk?


Good Evans - Jul 15, 2005 8:02 am (#32 of 2974)

If Snapes Patronus isnt a bat I am going to be so hugely disappointed !!! and a bat features on the special deluxe cover of the HBP artwork - and oh I am so excited I just can't articulate....8 hours left!! sorry I seem to be off topic. I dont have a problem with the patronus travelling long distance or just being sent to a person - that is cool, I want to understand how they communicate.

Of course the new ranks of the order - "Dumbledores Army" are practiced in the patronus charm - how handy!!!

dobbyiscool - Jul 15, 2005 8:08 am (#33 of 2974)

I don't think muggles can see a patronous. Dudley just said that he saw Harry point his wand at him. I don't think he could see the stag.

Quibbler Editor In Chief - Jul 15, 2005 8:13 am (#34 of 2974)

Madam Pince I believe the other questions were basically: 1) Is the picture on the cover of HBP the pensieve? 2) Will Harry continue taking occulumency in HBP?....I don't remember the exact wording either, but maybe someone else can help us with that.

Betelgeuse Black - Jul 15, 2005 8:26 am (#35 of 2974)

The one optimistic item I get from the answer to the FAQ question is:

We'll likely get to see what other peoples patronus' (patroni?) take. Snape, Lupin, etc... How interesting to speculate! I'd guess we'll see some of this in HBP. I'll be betting that Dumbledore will teach Harry to do this so he doesn't get left out in the cold like in OotP.


Gina R Snape - Jul 15, 2005 8:33 am (#36 of 2974)

Hey, guys. My computer at work is shot and it doesn't like all the flash stuff on Jo's site. Can someone either post the URL to the text only site or post what was her answer here so I can read it?


Penny Lane. - Jul 15, 2005 8:39 am (#37 of 2974)

It's here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Gina R Snape - Jul 15, 2005 8:53 am (#38 of 2974)

Thanks, Penny.

btw, Penny, my YIM is screwy today. But I've brought up my MSN just for today. (ginarsnape@hotmail.com)

wolfgrl - Jul 15, 2005 9:00 am (#39 of 2974)

Didn't we already know that Dumbledore's Patronus was a phoenix? Or was that just an assumption?

Penny Lane. - Jul 15, 2005 9:02 am (#40 of 2974)

We did. She told us on her website in the book festival chat, here:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Ann - Jul 15, 2005 9:12 am (#41 of 2974)

Perhaps some Order members (for example, Pettigrew) can't use this method of communication, since they can't cast a patronus. (Do you guys really think Snape can cast a patronus? It's hard to imagine him having a happy thought!)

Or perhaps Voldemort doesn't know about the technique because Dumbledore didn't invent it until after the curse that failed. Because if the DEs did know, they'd be able to tell that Snape was an Order member just by keeping an eye on him and noting whether he ever sent off his patronus with a message. (Assuming that's what he used in OotP.) Muggles may not be able to see them, but presumably DEs can. Questions--always more questions!

Paul Potter - Jul 15, 2005 9:17 am (#42 of 2974)

It wouldn't matter If wormtail did know about this way of sending information because everybody has a different patronus and I would think that only the person they are ment for would receive messages

Saralinda Again - Jul 15, 2005 9:18 am (#43 of 2974)

Sheesh. Can you imagine what Snape's patronus might be? A vulture? A hyena? A wolverine? A piranha? A fluffy white kitten?

Oh dear, sorry for the off-topic moment. Wink

Gina R Snape - Jul 15, 2005 9:21 am (#44 of 2974)

Heee. Saralinda, I don't think that was O/T. I'd love it if his patronus was a white kitten. Someone suggested a hippogriff somewhere, which I am quite partial to.

Maybe we'll see these patronuses flying around in book 6 and have to figure out who they belong to!

Elanor - Jul 15, 2005 9:25 am (#45 of 2974)

Yes, I do hope too we'll find out what Snape's patronus is! I put my galleons on a raven or an Augurey. I can't believe we may find out tomorrow!

Nathan Zimmermann - Jul 15, 2005 9:30 am (#46 of 2974)

I would say that there are certain thoughts that bring happiness to Severus for example the thought of getting an Order of Merlin for capturing Sirius in PoA.

Sconie Girl - Jul 15, 2005 9:44 am (#47 of 2974)

Oh my....I all most spit out my pop! I can just see Snape yelling EP at the top of his lungs to fight off some Dementors to have the fluffy white kitty come bounding out.

And happy thoughts for Snape well they don't have to be nice to be happy.

EDIt: WOW. Really bad typing skills today!

LooneyLuna - Jul 15, 2005 10:08 am (#48 of 2974)

Sconie - too true about Snape and happy thoughts. A happy thought for him could be giving Harry a T in potions!

Betelgeuse Black - Jul 15, 2005 10:57 am (#49 of 2974)

I think Snape's patronus will be a large black bat as someone else (forgive me for not looking it up) has suggested. I laughed at the fluffy white kitten being Snape's patronus. That seems more like Lavender's patronus.

Lupin, hmmmm... a wolf is too obvious. The PoA book never said what his patronus was on the train.

Hagrid... Can Hagrid make a patronus? I'd guess a buffalo or something large, tough, with a lot of wild looking hair.

Oh well, we'll find out some of them soon.


Grindylow - Jul 15, 2005 11:01 am (#50 of 2974)

I picture the fluffy white kitten to be DJU's if she can in fact produce one.........

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Potterhead - Jul 15, 2005 11:04 am (#51 of 2974)

I also think it is interesting that she refers to the patronus as a wizard's 'spirit guardian'. What an intriguing phrase which brings up so many more questions in and of itself. For instance, Harry's Stag is, to paraphrase DD, "Prongs riding again". But was James' patronus necessarily a stag? I don't think so. It seems we have two magical manifestations that are based on a wizard's inner personality or make up, as that inner makeup is projected into an anmial; the patronus and the animagus. But there is an important difference between our inner animal being (the animagus) and our outer spirit guardian (the patronus). The guardian patronus is usually an outside force, like a father or other person, whereas the animagus is really our alter ego. So, for instance, with MacGonagall, we know she is a cat when she is in animagus form, but I dare say that would not be her patronus. More likely her patronus would be the animal most closely resembling her mother, say, or her closest mentor?

I had been thinking Snape's patronus is a bat as I am intrigued by the possibility of his relationship to vampires. But now that I think myself into ever tightening circles, I am thinking that would be his animagus form, but not his patronus. Enough thinking; I want to read!

Doris Crockford - Jul 15, 2005 11:28 am (#52 of 2974)

Yay! I was wrong that she wouldn't update before HBP came out! Normally, being wrong isn't something I'd cheer about, but in this case, I'm happy just to have any info. But hopefully, tomorrow we'll get a bit more detail about this method of communication, maybe actually see what happens when someone recieves a message.

Kwikspell - Jul 15, 2005 11:28 am (#53 of 2974)

I wonder if JKR is building on the Native American concept of an animal "spirit guardian." For those who aren't familiar with this culture, when Native American boys were in their mid-teens, they were sent out into the forest on their own to fast and meditate with the Great Spirit. The Great Spirit would then send them a vision of their animal spirit guardian, which was supposed to guide then throughout their lives and was sometimes incorporated into the young man's "grownup" name. (Erm, I should point out that this is the culture of many large midwestern tribes. Not too sure if this same practice was followed in other regions.) JKR could be drawing some parallels with this practice and being able to conjure a patronus.

Gina R Snape - Jul 15, 2005 11:51 am (#54 of 2974)

Potterhead, JKR has confirmed for us that whatever is someone's animagus form is also their patronus.

I guess learning to do Expecto Patronum is an easier way to find what your form is before you bother trying to learn to be an animagus. I mean, I've said before...imagine the disappointment if you went through all of that hard work and found out you were a clam.

Kwikspell, I thought of the native american reference too. So far she hasn't referenced anything from Native American spiritual practises. But it could be a first!

Penny Lane. - Jul 15, 2005 12:03 pm (#55 of 2974)

Gina, I was looking for that quote, where she does in fact confirm that Patronus and Animagi are the same animal, but I couldn't quite find it. Do you knwo where it is? Also, I can't find you on MSN either :pout:

Gina R Snape - Jul 15, 2005 12:10 pm (#56 of 2974)

Penny, what is your MSN messenger account?

I can't recall where I saw that quote about the patronus/animagus thing. But I KNOW it's been confirmed. I've had this conversation variously about a hundred times.

Grindylow - Jul 15, 2005 12:16 pm (#57 of 2974)

LOL @ Gina's "clam" comment!

Penny Lane. - Jul 15, 2005 12:18 pm (#58 of 2974)

Gina, you can get my MSN name from my LJ user info. I don't want to put it here for a few reasons.

I know it has been to, and it's been driving me crazy all day.

Zoe kingson - Jul 15, 2005 1:04 pm (#59 of 2974)

My mother and I have been having a discussion as to weather or not JKR has ever said that Harry survives book 7. I'm pretty convinced that she said somewhere on the website that he will survive, but my mom says she has neither confirmed, nor denied any such thing.

Can anyone set us straight on the matter? Any links to prove it? Thanks. Smile

Less than 12 hours!! Yay!!

centauriffic - Jul 15, 2005 1:04 pm (#60 of 2974)

Interesting that when the Order came to get Harry in OotP, Lupin made him verify his identity by asking what form his patronus takes. Now everyone who was there (Moody, Shacklebolt, Tonks, etc.) know he uses a stag. That knowledge could prove to be important if he attempts to use the patronus communication system in an emergency and one of them recieives it!

Knowing JKR, Lupin's question may have been setting things in place for the future!

Madame Pomfrey - Jul 15, 2005 1:08 pm (#61 of 2974)

Zoe, Jo has not told us if he survives or not,which is a sure way to keep us reading.

Herm oh ninny - Jul 15, 2005 1:43 pm (#62 of 2974)

Zoe, in the article you are thinking about Jo says that Harry will survive to book seven. She doesn't say if he survives book seven or not. If you go to mugglenet and type the words "rowling says Harry will survive" the search will take you to the article. (Sorry, but I don't know how to put links into the posts )

In the answer to the faq poll, Jo says that it was obvious and that it could be found in GOF. What does she mean by that? How is it answered in GOF? I am confused!

Madame Pomfrey - Jul 15, 2005 2:23 pm (#63 of 2974)

I think she means when Dumbledore summons Hagrid by pointing his wand in the air, a silvery bird-like thing comes out of it and goes to Hagrid's hut. Something like that.Sorry I don't have the exact quote.

Madam Pince - Jul 15, 2005 2:28 pm (#64 of 2974)

I agree, Herm oh ninny. I didn't think it was obvious at all. I thought it had something to do with a flaming phoenix feather. I think Madame Pomfrey has it right with the reference, but I still feel that was kind of weak. I mean, it was Dumbledore -- he could send any kind of messenger he chose. If we'd had a second instance of an Order member doing something like that, then I'd call that an obvious clue.

Thanks to Quibbler Editor In Chief for the info on the other FAQ Poll questions. (In retrospect, what lame questions. No wonder I quit checking the poll!)

Denise P. - Jul 15, 2005 2:32 pm (#65 of 2974)

I just looked at QQ and Madam Scoop for when/where JKR said an animage/patronus would be the same and can't find it. I would be very interested in reading what she said, if you can find it Gina

Lina - Jul 15, 2005 2:43 pm (#66 of 2974)

I imagine Hagrid's Patronus as a big three headed dog. We have already seen him using his wand umbrella quite successfully. Either it was not properly broken, either it was properly repaired.

As for Snape, it was speculated a lot, so I just wait for the JKR's answer.

While about the animagus/Patronus form, me not knowing that she confirmed it, does not mean much, but I just don't see the reason for those forms to be the same. And what would it mean, that James and Harry would have the same Patronus? This is something that JKR did say that it is impossible.

Herm oh ninny - Jul 15, 2005 2:47 pm (#67 of 2974)

Ohh, that part. I sooo did not realize that it was a patronus that Dumbledore sent out of his wand. Thanks Madame Pomfrey and Madam Pince.

Lalalalala......6hours and 9 minutes to go...

Paul Potter - Jul 15, 2005 3:11 pm (#68 of 2974)

hi maybe Hagrids Patronus is a dragon

MickeyCee3948 - Jul 15, 2005 3:16 pm (#69 of 2974)

I agree with you Paul Potter, it does seem like that would be it for Hagrid.


Potterhead - Jul 15, 2005 3:17 pm (#70 of 2974)

Oh well, thanks, Gina, but then I wonder if it is hereditary? It does seem odd that two important constructs like the patronus and the animagus would be the same exact thing. Paul, I like your idea about the dragon!! That seems a good fit to me.

Sadie - Jul 15, 2005 4:25 pm (#71 of 2974)

I just got a call telling me the name of Chapter one and the first 4 words.....I was also told "It's so good.."

vanessa cave - Jul 15, 2005 4:34 pm (#72 of 2974)

whoo hoooo i just got in from buying my copy can't tell you how excited i am!!!!!!!

muggle born - Jul 15, 2005 4:34 pm (#73 of 2974)

I just watched JKR on tv reading chapter six It was so good

Amilia Smith - Jul 15, 2005 7:48 pm (#74 of 2974)

The closest quote I could find for an animagus and patronus taking the same form is from the World Book Day Chat.

class 14: If you were a animagus which animal would you be? and why?
JK Rowling replies -> I gave Hermione my idea animagus, because it's my favourite animal. You'll find the answer in the Room of Requirement, Order of the Phoenix!

Which doesn't actually say that animagus and patronus forms are equal, but might imply that they are as she answers a question about an animagus with a reference to a patronus.

Is this the quote you were thinking of, Gina? Or is there something else that I missed?


Aqualu Nifey - Jul 17, 2005 8:51 pm (#75 of 2974)

Ummm... Was JKR going to post the press conference on her website? She IS going to, right?

Herm oh ninny - Jul 18, 2005 7:47 am (#76 of 2974)

I hope she does Aqualu. I would love to be able to see it. In addition, I wouldn't mind seeing the release date for book 7 either....lol! One can dream can't they?

Grindylow - Jul 18, 2005 9:01 am (#77 of 2974)

Herm oh ninny........she said 2 years..........

Herm oh ninny - Jul 18, 2005 11:12 am (#78 of 2974)

2 years?? I don't think I can make it!!

Ida-ho-Potato - Jul 18, 2005 11:24 am (#79 of 2974)

I am currently on JKR fan site. The phone has started ringing and will not stop. I tried to answer it. It is not the phone that you see ringing. Help, is there another phone on her site. I did also check into other portkeys and found nothing. Ida

popkin - Jul 18, 2005 1:03 pm (#80 of 2974)

Actually, what she said was at least two years. So, it could be more than two years.

Aurora Gubbins - Jul 18, 2005 1:40 pm (#81 of 2974)

let's think about that now; If Jo takes 2 years to write the book, let's add a few months for checking, re-checking and double checking, add on 6 months for us Potter-hungry maniacs to frantically debate what will happen and hash over the updates on her site and cope with the rumours and so on while the book is edited and printed - looks like we should be seeing book 7 in about 2008/2009. Can't think of a better 40th birthday present, frankly!

Aurora xx

Kip Carter - Jul 19, 2005 12:53 am (#82 of 2974)

I have temporarily closed down this thread until the Spoiler period is over. You can still post on the new JK Rowling Official Site thread in the Spoiler area. Later I will combine the two threads.

Kip Carter - Aug 1, 2005 10:00 am (#83 of 2974)

-- JK Rowling Official Site

Alex Thorpe - Jul 19, 2005 2:38 am (#84 of 2974)

My work colleagues have called me sad for checking every hour or so to see if JKR had anything to say this week...

Phelim Mcintyre - Jul 19, 2005 4:30 am (#85 of 2974)

Alex - you are not alone.

Snuffles - Jul 19, 2005 4:33 am (#86 of 2974)

Nope, most definately not alone!

Jessalynn Quirky - Jul 19, 2005 4:52 am (#87 of 2974)

Why hasn't she updated yet?! Jo, PLEASE at least say something about HBP before the end of the week!

Phelim Mcintyre - Jul 19, 2005 5:00 am (#88 of 2974)

Yes - confirm that DD is really dead to put an end to the theories Wink

Alex Thorpe - Jul 19, 2005 5:04 am (#89 of 2974)

Or even a new hidden jobby somewhere for us to search for. A scribbled drawing of anything?

KWeldon - Jul 19, 2005 5:34 am (#90 of 2974)

I would think JKR would be thinking to herself, "Don't you people have enough from me at the moment?!"


Alex Thorpe - Jul 19, 2005 5:34 am (#91 of 2974)

No! It's never enough!!! :-p

Snuffles - Jul 19, 2005 7:00 am (#92 of 2974)

I've just gone onto JKR site the .co.uk one and has anyone else noticed that under the flags of which language you want the text in, there is now one that says 'Main Site, accessibility enabled'.If you click on it you get at the top of your screen what sounds are happening. I.e. birds singing, then it changes to car driving past and then door bell.

You can also mute sounds and magnify daily news or pause!

Has this always been there and I have never noticed it?

bugggirl - Jul 19, 2005 7:29 am (#93 of 2974)

Hey everyone, this is my first post, but I've been lurking around for over a year. I just checked the site and yeah you can get in by clicking "Main Site" below the flags. I love how it says "Dog Barking"....."car driving past" at the top! It's like they knew we are so obsessed we wanted to know what the sounds are! Funny!

HP Em - Jul 19, 2005 7:56 am (#94 of 2974)

Greetings, this is my first post. I requested a spot to add this information and I hope that it's still allowed even though it's not from JKR's website. It is from an interview she gave which aired Sunday night in this US on Dateline NBC. I feel that it, in some way, addresses the question of DD and his death. The interview was with Katie Couric and she mentions betting sites which were listing odds on which character was going to die. The following is word for word exactly what the question and response were: JKR: "They think Dumbledore's a goner. Well I will say that I have actually never said that a major character is going to die." Katie Couric: "So it's not true?" JKR: "I never said that."

I know that JKR has a tendancy to dance around answers and such but if she never said a major character was going to die then what words did she use to have fans believing that a major character would be lost? Perhaps this line can be entered into the arguement that DD really is not dead and though her reluctance to answer the last bit is because it's more complicated an answer than a simple "yes" or "no". Again, I hope that I have entered this in the right place, it's only speculation but I didn't want to post JKR's words in the thread already devoted to DD and the question of his death.

angel z - Jul 19, 2005 8:08 am (#95 of 2974)

buggirl have just checked out your pointer to the jkr site. i have never seen this before but after playing around for a bit i think this might be a mistake on lightmakers part. i think this is access to the site normally resticted to those who work on the sit. however i may be wrong as i am no expert angelz

bugggirl - Jul 19, 2005 8:14 am (#96 of 2974)

Oh if it's a mistake that's really funny! I don't know much about computers and even less about web sites so I'm not sure. I mean it didn't make much sense to me about the volume controls...most of the time my volume is down so I can't hear the dog barking. I mean I get enough of that here at my own house!

azi - Jul 19, 2005 8:16 am (#97 of 2974)

Angel z, please try to use proper capitalisation in your posts - it makes them easier to read! Thankyou!

I have also checked that part of the site out and think, looking at the 'help' menu part, that it could be a sort of guide to newbies, about what to do and such. The help area encourages you to look around for things (prizes etc.). Whatever it is, it was fun to play around!

Weeny Owl - Jul 19, 2005 9:35 am (#98 of 2974)

Interesting info from an interview JKR did with Mugglenet and The Leaky Cauldron:

Melissa Anelli, The Leaky Cauldron (MA): How many boxes is it, now, of backstory?

JKR: It really is hard to say because I’m so disorganized, but yeah, there’s boxes. It’s mainly in notebooks because the backstory is so valuable, so I mainly need that in a format I can retrieve, because I lose stuff. So, it’s harder to lose a book than it is a bit of paper.

ES: When book seven is out, will you keep the Web site open to keep answering questions?

JKR: Yeah, I don’t see the Web site closing, like on the stroke of midnight when the seventh book’s finished. No, definitely not. My feeling is, I couldn’t possibly answer all the questions, because the novel is the wrong form in which to, for example, present a catalog of your characters’ favorite colors. But people actually want to know – it’s that kind of detail, isn’t it? So, I’m never going to answer everything that an obsessive fan would want to know in the novels, and the Web site is another way of doing that.

Also I think people will continue to theorize about the characters even at the end of book seven because some people are very interested in certain characters whose past lives are not germane to the plot, they’re not central to the story, so there is big leeway there still for fanfiction, just as there is, I mean – Jane Austen, I'm a huge Jane Austen fan and you wonder about the characters lives at the end of the story. They still exist, they still live, you're bound to wonder, aren't you? But I am as sure as I can be currently that seven will be the final novel, even though I get a lot of really big puppy dog eyes. “Just one more!” Yeah, I think it will be seven.

Doris Crockford - Jul 19, 2005 9:40 am (#99 of 2974)

HP Em, in the FAQ section, someone asked if she was going to kill any more characters (not specifying which book or whether they were major or minor characters), and she replied, "Yes. Sorry." But then a few days later my local newspaper (and several other newspapers/websites) had an article that said that the question asked specifically about HBP and only speculated about major characters. Of course, Jim Dale gave an interview a few weeks ago, and he confirmed that a major character dies in HBP(he, of course, had already read the book to record the audio version), so everyone knew.

And that interview with Katie Couric and JKR was recorded before the release of HBP, so no one knew who was dead yet, plus JKR avoids giving away spoilers for awhile after the release of the book so the readers can read it for themselves. At least that's why I think the answer was worded so oddly.

Ant Hem - Jul 19, 2005 9:43 am (#100 of 2974)

Snuffles, angel z, bugggirl et al,

I think that part of JKR's site has always been there. It is, as the link suggests, for accessibility purposes. The subtitles telling you what the sounds are are probably for the benefit of the hard of hearing and profoundly deaf, in order that they can get a feel for what the site is like for the rest of us. The mute sounds option will be useful for anyone using a screen reader to speak the text on the site, and there is also a magnification option for the Daily News for people with visual impairments, though this doesn't seem to work too well.


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Wendelin the Weird - Jul 19, 2005 12:38 pm (#101 of 2974)

Yeah, as Doris said about the interview with Katie Couric, it was given well before it aired. It had actually been slated to be aired on the Tuesday before the release and I think because of that mention of the character death they had to move it back to Sunday. I suspect a lot of the interviews given right around the release could be somewhat sheltered because Jo didnt want to reveal too much to those who hadnt finished the book.

(A good example is in the CBBC interview moments after the release she cautiously asks how far the readers have gotten before answering, and in the question about How old is Dumbledore she says he IS about 150. I dont take that to mean that he is still alive because she didnt say WAS, but rather since the person asking obviously hadnt read to the end of the book yet.)

I really hope Jo will clear some of our questions up on her site, but I wouldn't count on it. After all, she has said in an interview that she went over and over every aspect of this plotline from every angle.. so I expect she purposely wrote it so that it could be interpreted in many different ways. She also says in the Mugglenet interview that she looks forward to reading all of our theories so I dont expect she will give us too many crucial answers to our plot questions. Drat! She is cruel. ha ha

Bluenote1313 - Jul 19, 2005 2:02 pm (#102 of 2974)

In the past she has answered questions that, I think, are not going to be revealed in the coming books. I know there was one question last year that she said we would have to wait for the next book to find out, but she couldn't answer the Mark Evans questions fast enough to stop the rumor. Depending on the question and if it is still story line relevant, she might or might not answer.

I would think a question like "Is DD really dead?" would get some sort of response and from that you might get more info or more theories.

riotgrrrl - Jul 19, 2005 4:23 pm (#103 of 2974)

The part mentioned is for those hard of seeing and/or hard of hearing. If you scroll through there are short cuts and one of them says "jaws" which is a program that reads the screen to those that are visually impaired.

zelmia - Jul 19, 2005 9:54 pm (#104 of 2974)

Well at least now we know for sure that the little "top" on the Rubbish Bin screen is indeed a Sneakoscope. I don't recall ever getting confirmation on that before.

Dobby4Pres - Jul 20, 2005 11:37 am (#105 of 2974)

My guess is that she will not answer a question sich as is "DD really dead?" because she seems to like watching all the theories surface and likes the fact that she is confusing all of us.

Mugglenet.com and Leaky Caudlron.org's Emerson and Melissa interviewed JKR and the following came from it (I'm sure most of you have read it but I'll put it up for those who have not)

MA: OK, big big big book six question. Is Snape evil?

JKR: [Almost laughing] Well, you've read the book, what do you think?

ES: She's trying to make you say it categorically.

MA: Well, there are conspiracy theorists, and there are people who will claim -

JKR: Cling to some desperate hope [laughter] -

ES: Yes!

MA: Yes!

ES: Like certain shippers we know!

[All laugh]

JKR: Well, okay, I'm obviously – Harry-Snape is now as personal, if not more so, than Harry-Voldemort. I can't answer that question because it's a spoiler, isn't it, whatever I say, and obviously, it has such a huge impact on what will happen when they meet again that I can't. And let's face it, it's going to launch 10,000 theories and I'm going to get a big kick out of reading them so [laughs] I'm evil but I just like the theories, I love the theories.

May Crook - Jul 20, 2005 1:17 pm (#106 of 2974)

Maybe she is waiting to update the site on Harrys Birthday.

Hollywand - Jul 20, 2005 1:43 pm (#107 of 2974)

I imagine it's raining Howlers right now for Jo. ;-)

Wendelin the Weird - Jul 20, 2005 4:17 pm (#108 of 2974)

Ha haa! Yes, she had better keep on the move lest they all explode at once and set her house in flames like Godric's Hollow. AHA! Maybe thats what happened to cause the explosion! Everyone decided at the same time to send Howlers to Voldie! rotfl

Kazius - Jul 21, 2005 2:26 am (#109 of 2974)

Yes, I realize this isn't on her website, but...

Frankly, I find most of JKR's comments in the interview's on Mugglenet or Leaky Cauldron (Whichever you prefer) rather frustrating, since they hint at what we want to know, but she prefers to watch us struggle, I imagine. Especially with probably a two year wait, I guess I'll have to do what I did last timing, totally forget Harry Potter until Book 7, otherwise I'll go crazy trying to figure everything out. The only solid answers I felt like she's given are that there will be Quidditch and no Harry/Hermione, which frankly isn't all that much, because H/H's end was predictable, and Quidditch is a minor subplot, even if it is the high points of several books.

Hopefully, Part III will be more revealing, and even while she's taking time with her Kids (Which I don't blame her for, I would too), she will realize that she has left this far too open. We don't have any firm ground to stand on, these are three incredibly major questions we have no real evidence for, only guesses.

Is Snape Good/evil?

Is Dumbledore really dead? (With the Fire and Suspicions, such as the Phoenix)

Who is R.A.B.?

Those three, on top of all the other questions(Which are too be expected, she can't give everything away) really kinda leave us hanging. She was right, this is more of a Book 7, Part 1 then Book 6, which is why it's even harder for us to wait this time around. Especially with no Dumbledore to act like a security blanket and leaving us unsure of how much Hogwarts there will be in the next Book.

I'd like to get an idea of how much Harry will be at Hogwarts next year, and I'd like to know more about what I'm going to deem the "5th" Horcrux, basically the one that is either a Ravenclaw or Gryffindor object (I believe, Ravenclaw, as I have posted elsewhere)

Those are two questions, I feel she could dwelve into without revealing the plot of her next book.

Oh well, let the speculation and awe continue!

Snuffles - Jul 21, 2005 6:27 am (#110 of 2974)

JKR has updated her 'news' on her website, haven't checked the rest yet, thought I would tell you all

edit: She has updated her rubbish bin too.

Edit 2: And extras, but Alex beat me to that one!

Ida-ho-Potato - Jul 21, 2005 6:41 am (#111 of 2974)

I notice to that if I go in through my favorites it is not updates. If I go in through the main site that says "accessibility enabled" it show will then show the updates.

Did you also notice how the Eraser does not work any more and the book with the question mark will not move now.

Edit - I just tried going in through my favorites again and now it come up with all the updates. Maby I was going in around the first timed before they updated they site and the second I check after reading these posts about goin in through the main site under the flags. All well, don't for sure what happened. Ida

MoonRider - Jul 21, 2005 8:24 am (#112 of 2974)

Hi All!

I justed wanted to let you know that, concerning "accessibility", I found this on The Leaky Cauldron:

JKRowling.com to Feature Accessibility for Disabled and Visually Impaired Users

JKRowling.com became accessible yesterday to disabled, deaf and visually impaired internet users. Lighmaker worked with RNIB and Macromedia to develop the new version.

The site is now navigable by keyboard without a mouse, and contains an accessibility menu, including the ability to enlarge text in certain areas, pause movement, and turn off background sound. A sound glossary has been built in so that users can look-up the meaning of important sound clues on the site and a caption element allows all users to read contextual content of sounds.

JKR said, [the site] allows me the opportunity to be able to communicate directly with as many Harry Potter fans as possible. I am therefore delighted that disabled and visually impaired fans can now be a part of this."

The hidden content on JKR.com will be slightly easier to find for impaired users.

Take care,


Weeny Owl - Jul 21, 2005 3:04 pm (#113 of 2974)

Did you also notice how the Eraser does not work any more and the book with the question mark will not move now.

They both still work for me.

Gina R Snape - Jul 21, 2005 7:15 pm (#114 of 2974)

Works for me too.

Ida-ho-Potato - Jul 22, 2005 4:02 pm (#115 of 2974)

I was moving around in the Accessibility for Disabled and Visually Impaired Users site. The eraser would not work with the mouse. But I could highlight differenty things with the tab button. I just could not figure out how to select some of those things once the yellow square was around it.

Lina - Jul 25, 2005 9:01 am (#116 of 2974)

I made my prediction here, so I think that this is the place where I have to say: How I was wrong about Felix Felicis.

Oh, I was very, very wrong, although it comforts me that it is not a charm either.

Tomoé - Jul 25, 2005 2:36 pm (#117 of 2974)
Edited Jul 25, 2005 3:29 pm
No, the exact woirding should be "Oh, Lina, you were so wrong!"

Sorry, I couldn't help it, there was a note nagging me on my desktop for weeks with your original wording. ^_~

Lina - Jul 25, 2005 3:24 pm (#118 of 2974)

Tomoe, I knew I could count on you! Thank you. so: I was SO wrong.

Chemyst - Jul 26, 2005 9:09 pm (#119 of 2974)

Oh, Lina!

Madame Pomfrey - Jul 29, 2005 6:20 pm (#120 of 2974)

Happy Birthday,Neville!

Herm oh ninny - Jul 30, 2005 2:13 pm (#121 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Neville!! May you receive an entire crate of remembralls!

Springtime - Jul 30, 2005 4:46 pm (#122 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Neville!

Hope we get another update for Harry's Birthday! (maybe another poll question)

riotgrrrl - Jul 30, 2005 5:13 pm (#123 of 2974)

Happy birthday Jo and Harry! Has anyone figured out if we can open the card?

haymoni - Jul 30, 2005 6:24 pm (#124 of 2974)

There is nothing there today.

I missed it!!!

I can see Joanie Cunningham stomping her foot!

Weeny Owl - Jul 30, 2005 8:19 pm (#125 of 2974)

JKR's birthday card is under the Extra Stuff, haymoni, and that has changed from a coffee cup to a champagne glass.

Kwikspell - Jul 30, 2005 8:24 pm (#126 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Harry!

Tried like mad to get the birthday card to open, but no luck.

popkin - Jul 30, 2005 8:50 pm (#127 of 2974)

I couldn't get the birthday card to open either. Mugglenet promised a surprise in the Extra Stuff section. As far as I can see, it is a birthday card that won't open and a glass of champaign that takes you back to the home page.

Ydnam96 - Jul 30, 2005 10:04 pm (#128 of 2974)

I couldn't get it to do anything either...

Snuffles - Jul 31, 2005 1:25 am (#129 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Harry!, Happy 40th Jo! Have a great day!

Springtime - Jul 31, 2005 8:42 am (#130 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Harry!! And Happy Birthday Jo! Has anyone thought to wait and see what happens when peeves arrives? I am waiting now maybe he opens the card? Also there is a new list on the extra board.

Springtime - Jul 31, 2005 8:43 am (#131 of 2974)

Nope nothing when peeves appears the card still will not open.

Madame Pomfrey - Jul 31, 2005 9:16 am (#132 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Jo & Harry!

Her-melanie - Jul 31, 2005 9:43 am (#133 of 2974)

Does anything happen to the cork on the desk when Peeves blows by?

Springtime - Jul 31, 2005 10:53 am (#134 of 2974)

I did not notice anything happening to the cork with peeves blowing by

barbara webb - Jul 31, 2005 11:42 am (#135 of 2974)

Belated Birthday Wishes to Neville! Happy Birthday, Harry!

Lina - Jul 31, 2005 2:45 pm (#136 of 2974)

Harry and Jo!

T Brightwater - Jul 31, 2005 2:46 pm (#137 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Harry and Jo! And many more to come!

frogface - Jul 31, 2005 4:08 pm (#138 of 2974)

New Wizard of the month! Bridget Wenlock 1202 - 1285 "Famous Arithmancer. First to establish the magical properties of the number 7."

Sadie - Jul 31, 2005 5:52 pm (#139 of 2974)

Happy Birthday. Jo and Harry! Thank you for the gifts you have given us!

So Sirius - Jul 31, 2005 6:14 pm (#140 of 2974)

What do you think that means, regarding the #7? Something relating to HBP and the 7 horcruxes?

Here's the definiton, in Arithmancy. 7 Perceptive, understanding, and bright, sevens enjoy hard work and challenges. They are often serious, scholarly, and interested in all things mysterious. Originality and imagination are more important than money and material possessions. Sevens can also be pessimistic, sarcastic, and insecure.

riotgrrrl - Jul 31, 2005 9:16 pm (#141 of 2974)

Does that have anything to do with Severus- seven?

frogface - Aug 1, 2005 4:57 am (#142 of 2974)

Pesimistic, sarcastic and insecure are probably among the words I would use to describe Severus!

Sadie - Aug 1, 2005 7:44 am (#143 of 2974)

Happy belated birthday to Neville, Harry and Jo!!!!

Elanor - Aug 1, 2005 9:59 am (#144 of 2974)

What do you think that means, regarding the #7? Something relating to HBP and the 7 horcruxes?

Wait till Elanor has her own computer and internet back, she will explain it all!


PS Happy belated birthday to Neville, Harry and Jo from both of us.

haymoni - Aug 1, 2005 4:10 pm (#145 of 2974)

OK guys - my coffee cup never turned to a champagne glass and I never got to see the card.

Anyone got it to share???

Sadie - Aug 2, 2005 2:00 pm (#146 of 2974)

my champagne glass is still there. So is the card.

dobbyiscool - Aug 2, 2005 2:05 pm (#147 of 2974)

My card and champagne glass are still there, too.

riotgrrrl - Aug 2, 2005 2:54 pm (#148 of 2974)

Mine as well. Maybe since it's her 40th, she decided to celebrate all week!!! I would.

wombat witch - Aug 3, 2005 3:04 am (#149 of 2974)

Hi Haymouni - I've just checked the site and the champagne glass (still bubbling too... must be magic!!) is there with the un-openable card!!! I think I've been told that if you go in through favourites you sometimes won't get updates on some sites... it seems to be an erratic-computer-thingy to use the technical term.

If you access it through the links at the top of this thread (which is what I did) you should be able to see them!

Hope you do!! Love - WW

josenegro - Aug 8, 2005 3:05 am (#150 of 2974)

I was wondering if anyone knows who wrote the music that's played on the radio of JKR's web site? Was it composed specifically for her or is it from an existing music group or musician? I thought perhaps it might be a clue for us. Either the title of the song or the name of the group....just curious.


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Herm oh ninny - Aug 10, 2005 9:57 pm (#151 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Ginny!!

WOW, 16 years old.....the perfect age to follow a certain boy wizard on his next adventure and help him despite his reluctance!

Phelim Mcintyre - Aug 11, 2005 1:01 am (#152 of 2974)

Yes, Happy Birthday Ginny. And I notice the cup is back.

Herm oh ninny - Aug 11, 2005 6:39 am (#153 of 2974)

Phelim, what cup? I was on vacation durring JO/Harry's birthday so I never got to see it. Where is it?

( <-------Searching Jo's site & feeling stupid because I can't find said cup!)

Snuffles - Aug 11, 2005 6:49 am (#154 of 2974)

Herm oh ninny. When it was Jo's birthday, the cup to the extra's page turned into a champagne glass to celebrate her turning 40! I think it only lasted a few days then returned to the original coffee cup!

Herm oh ninny - Aug 11, 2005 6:51 am (#155 of 2974)

Thanks Snuffles!

Knight - Aug 11, 2005 4:27 pm (#156 of 2974)

On the extra stuff page there is a new card hanging (at least i think it's new)with the date "August 15 Edinburgh International Rock Festival" perhaps she will go there?

Ginerva Potter - Aug 12, 2005 10:34 am (#157 of 2974)

Sorry Knight. It actuallys says August 15 Edinburgh International Book Festival. She was there last year and the transcripts are in the Quick Quotes Quill if you want to read them.


Knight - Aug 12, 2005 4:44 pm (#158 of 2974)

I'm sorry ginny, I viewed the site a couple of hundred times and still I see new (for me new) things.... was probably my own wishful thinking. Other then that I have nothing new I'm afraid....


Ginerva Potter - Aug 12, 2005 5:42 pm (#159 of 2974)

Knight - No need to apologize. I think we all have wishful thinking when it comes to updates. I look at the door all the time to see if it's open.....which it usually isn't. oh well, it's fun to look and hope.


my athena - Aug 20, 2005 7:54 am (#160 of 2974)

Ok this is not a problem in the book but about the book. I purchased the book (HBP) on opening night and read it in a day. i have since reread it and discovered that the book had been bound wrong. the text is upside down and backwards compared to the cover???? anyone else notice this?

Saralinda Again - Aug 20, 2005 8:38 am (#161 of 2974)

Hang on to it, it might be valuable some day!

Lina - Aug 20, 2005 2:34 pm (#162 of 2974)

I have the feeling that we are much less thirsty about the updates lately - have so many other things to discuss. She can get some rest for a while...

Herm oh ninny - Aug 21, 2005 8:32 pm (#163 of 2974)

Well, it's good old Percy's birthday today. If he wasn't such a "Humongous Bighead", I might have wished him a happy birthday. LOL

riotgrrrl - Aug 21, 2005 10:23 pm (#164 of 2974)

Wasn't there a theory about only posting birthdays of those that chose the "good" side in the end? Mmmmm... maybe something new to discuss? Maybe I'm staying up to late on the computer?

Lexicon Steve - Aug 21, 2005 10:32 pm (#165 of 2974)

There's no evidence that Rowling is only mentioning the birthdays of the "good guys." This is actually connected with the theories going around that if someone's birthday appears, they must still be alive after book seven. The fact of the matter is that Harry Potter's world is currently stuck at June, 1997, and won't move ahead in time until the next book comes out.

So no clues there. Anyhow, Percy is a good guy. He's just a bit, uh, deluded at the moment.

Steve The Lexicon

Snuffles - Aug 22, 2005 7:23 am (#166 of 2974)

As the JKR site has been running over a year, and we think she puts up the characters birthdays who are still alive after book 7.

Are there any major characters yet to have a mention?

Could we have a hint as to who won't survive?

wolfgrl - Aug 22, 2005 8:22 am (#167 of 2974)

Well I will go ahead and wish Percy a Happy Birthday.

!!!Happy Birthday!!!

Maybe a little good cheer is what he needs. I personaly don't think any Weasley could go bad, in the Dark Mark sort of way that is. He is just a little missguided by his ambitions.

Hogs Head - Aug 22, 2005 9:05 am (#168 of 2974)

Not particularly my theory, but one mentioned on another thread is that Percy is (as of the time of Books 5 & 6) afflicted with some curse or hex -- maybe from his Humongeous Bighead Headboy Badge which a few have cited as a possible horcrux. I have no opinion on the hex or curse part, but as to the badge having been a horcrux, the inquiry (unanswered) was whether headboys or headgirls of British schools usually got a new badge of their own that they kept or whether they used a traditional, hand-me-down badge used by prior honorees. If the latter, the thought was that the horcrux badge had once been Voldy's. Anyway, Happy Birthday, Bighead.

azi - Aug 22, 2005 9:27 am (#169 of 2974)

We haven't had Tonks' birthday yet. Which worries me. We never had Dumbledore's or Sirius' birthdays, which suggests there could be some truth in the theory that main characters who don't appear are doomed to die.

All the birthdays according to the Lexicon -

Nevile Longbottom

Harry Potter

Ginny Weasley

Percy Weasley

Hermione Granger

Minerva McGonagall

Filius Flitwick

Molly Weasley

Bill Weasley

Rubeus Hagrid

Charlie Weasley

Severus Snape

Arthur Weasley

Ron Weasley

Fred and George Weasley

Pomona Sprout

Draco Malfoy


Can anyone think of main characters that haven't been listed apart from Tonks and Voldemort?

Madam Pince - Aug 22, 2005 9:33 am (#170 of 2974)

Hmph. I say Percy gets a pile of mashed parsnips instead of a birthday cake, with the kind of candles that you can't blow out.

Neville Longbottom - Aug 22, 2005 10:10 am (#171 of 2974)

Can anyone think of main characters that haven't been listed apart from Tonks and Voldemort?
The most major character left who is still alive is Luna. Then there's Trelawney, who might not be the nicest character, but she isn't worse than Snape or Malfoy and she's more major than Flitwick or Sprout. Then there's Fleur, but she only really moved up in the major character list after HBP.

Herm oh ninny - Aug 22, 2005 10:59 am (#172 of 2974)

Well, we still have like, 2 years or so for their birthdays to be posted! lol

Ann - Aug 22, 2005 11:49 am (#173 of 2974)

We've also got Remus Lupin's birthday from her website, I think. It's March 10th, anyway.

azi - Aug 22, 2005 11:56 am (#174 of 2974)

Did I miss Remus off? Oops, I did write it down in my notes. Sorry!

Well, there *are* two more years or so, Herm oh ninny, but I'm still worried! We've already had Harry, Ginny and Percy's birthdays so it seems like the cycle is starting again, even though the website has only been up a year and a half (ish, give or take a few months ) I think. Does that make any sense? I expect not. It seems like there will be no more new birthdays in a way because we're starting to repeat some like Ginny's. I can't see why we'd have that though.

I wonder if Slughorn's birthday will appear? We've had all the heads of house (including Snape) accounted for, plus Hagrid.

Edited for clarity.

Madame Pomfrey - Aug 22, 2005 12:12 pm (#175 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Bigheaded Boy! I like Madame Pince's idea.Parsnips from me also.

RoseMorninStar - Aug 22, 2005 9:26 pm (#176 of 2974)

Well, I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but (and I cannot remember if I read it on Jo's website or in the recent interview with Melissa & Emerson) but that Percy is NOT under any kind of curse or hex and he is acting of his own accord (unfortunately). Percy's ambition almost makes me think he would have done well in Slytherin.

Czarina II - Aug 29, 2005 5:27 pm (#177 of 2974)
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I think the birthdays are just to placate us fans until the next book. They are probably locked into a cycle on the website once JKR adds them, so the cycle of birthdays will continue indefinitely, repeating Harry's birthday so long as the website is up, and JKR will add other birthdays as she thinks of them and they come up in the year.

Thora - Aug 30, 2005 9:33 am (#178 of 2974)

For those who missed the cup change I have temporarily changed my advatar to show the screen shot I took of it.


haymoni - Aug 30, 2005 9:45 am (#179 of 2974)

Thora - that was the champagne glass for the birthdays or something else?

riotgrrrl - Aug 30, 2005 10:08 am (#180 of 2974)

I think that was something else. When did that change happen?

Phelim Mcintyre - Aug 30, 2005 11:44 am (#181 of 2974)

The glass appeared on Harry's (and Jo's) birthday.

Madam Pince - Aug 30, 2005 1:16 pm (#182 of 2974)

Hmmmm... nothing on Jo's site about the rumor on the Lexicon (and TLC, and Mugglenet) that a "well-placed source" has revealed that R.A.B. is Regulus Arcturus Black. Something like that would surely have been released on her site first, right?

Snuffles - Aug 30, 2005 1:21 pm (#183 of 2974)

If nothing appears in a couple of weeks Madam Pince, then I think we can take it as correct. I'm pretty certain Jo will respond to this if it isn't true, and post it on her site under the rubbish bin section.

Ann - Aug 30, 2005 1:25 pm (#184 of 2974)

Or she won't--why should she tell us, just because someone started a rumor? Although it's not like it isn't pretty obvious anyway. It's rather like the Aberforth-barkeep thing.

Snuffles - Aug 30, 2005 1:31 pm (#185 of 2974)

Surely she wouldn't be that cruel! that would be almost as mean as say.....not opening the door on her website for at least 8 months!!!

Hey wait, she hasn't!!

I guess anything is possible.

At least it gives us something else to ponder on!

Herm oh ninny - Aug 30, 2005 9:47 pm (#186 of 2974)

Jo has said that she likes reading all of our rumors and theories and that she won't put an end to them unless they are pointless or harmful. Otherwise, she loves to watch us scratching at our heads!

The giant squid - Aug 31, 2005 3:21 am (#187 of 2974)

I would like to see her acknowledge it, though, make it an "official" unanswered rumor. Just something along the lines of "Rumor: R.A.B. is Regulus Arcturus Black." response: "Hmm, interesting guess... [evil laughter]"


Madam Pince - Aug 31, 2005 5:41 am (#188 of 2974)

I agree, Mike. The way it's presented on the Lexicon, it's not even a guess -- it's fact. So I really want to hear from Jo on the subject. Of course, I guess she's not responsible for what websites put up about her stuff, but one of her award-winning sites that she herself has raved about, I'd think she could acknowledge it.

skh - Aug 31, 2005 9:19 am (#189 of 2974)

I reckon this is the kind of thing she would definitely denounce if it wasn't true. I would take silence on this matter as tacit confirmation... I would think if it's not true, it would be the kind of thing she'd deem pointless / harmless.

Would LOVE to know the source though!!


T Brightwater - Aug 31, 2005 1:43 pm (#190 of 2974)

Is that a meerkat in your avatar, skh?

Nathan Zimmermann - Aug 31, 2005 6:59 pm (#191 of 2974)

J.K. Rowling's website has been updated with new wizard of the month. The new wizard Gaspard Shingleton, the inventor of the self-stirring cauldron.

septentrion - Aug 31, 2005 11:27 pm (#192 of 2974)

Self-stirring cauldron : something related to potions. Me think we have heard of potions a lot lately.

skh - Sep 1, 2005 2:35 am (#193 of 2974)

AGH - read it as "Shacklebolt" first -- silly me!!

Yes, T Brightwater, it is a Meerkat - re-reading Moody and his "constant vigilance" just made me think of them , peering around the place all the time!

I do wish there'd be an update -- even something to replace the "publication weekend" notice... (I know, we're never happy, are we?)

Bocefus - Sep 1, 2005 9:50 pm (#194 of 2974)

Some clues for 7. The locket in HBP was an obvious dud, but what about the heaving locket at #12 Grimwald place that couldn't be opened? Perhaps a little bit of parcelmouth would revel something? And I throw this out and I apologize for any mispellings, could Harry possibly use the Mirror of Eserid to find/obtain certain horcruxes? Lastly, couldn't we expect a little intervention from Dumbledore's potrait? It wouldn't be fair if his likeness were to the only one unable to move around at will. But to where is a mystery...maybe there's a frame at James & Lilly's old house?

Hogs Head - Sep 2, 2005 4:12 am (#195 of 2974)

Bocefus, good ideas, but you may be on the wrong thread -- much of what you are interested in is actively discussed on the "Horcruxes" thread.

Elanor - Sep 7, 2005 12:56 pm (#196 of 2974)
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There is an update! yeah!!! "HP goes digital" is now on the news section, about HP files now available on i-pods. There is also a warning about e-bay's false HP merchandise.

It seems to be all but I have noticed that (for me) some pages are very long to load, maybe that means that other updates are coming!

Winky Woo - Sep 7, 2005 2:14 pm (#197 of 2974)

Thats all I could see too Elanor! It's not usually slow at all for me, but tonight I thought I'd gone back to dial-up internet! I'm not greedy but more updates pretty pleeeease????????

muggle born - Sep 7, 2005 3:53 pm (#198 of 2974)

There are also a couple of bits of info on rubbish bin

Hollywand - Sep 7, 2005 5:20 pm (#199 of 2974)

Elanor, hop over to the Apple website, and you will see the ipod for Hogwarts. It has the crest engraved on it, and "Draco dormiens non titillandus". What a hilarious idea. Just in time for the train ride on the Hogwarts Express, no doubt.

Mediwitch - Sep 7, 2005 6:43 pm (#200 of 2974)

Oh NOOOOOOO - I just got an iPod for my birthday less than a month ago!!!! Why didn't they come out with this one sooner?????

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The giant squid - Sep 7, 2005 11:18 pm (#201 of 2974)

Oh, the conflict! My refusal to buy into the iPod craze versus my desire for all things Hogwarts...

skh - Sep 8, 2005 1:36 am (#202 of 2974)

MuggleBorn - didn't see anything new on the Rubbish Bin page?

jose043 - Sep 8, 2005 5:57 am (#203 of 2974)

Hi All & good evening/morning,

In Our local paper called the West Australian their was a picture of JK Rowling & a portrait of her self sitting on a chair with no shoes on note paper & some food in the London Portrait Gallery

Josephine bye all

riotgrrrl - Sep 8, 2005 7:42 am (#204 of 2974)

I didn't find anything new on the rubbish page either, skh. Glad for some type of update though. She DIDNT update (on the rubbish page) about the RAB theory though so.....

Marie E. - Sep 8, 2005 8:14 pm (#205 of 2974)

I had to go find all the extra goodies again since I'm on a new computer. I'm proud to say I remembered all of them except dialing Peeves on the telephone.

skh - Sep 9, 2005 2:19 am (#206 of 2974)

Jose - I think that's a new portrait to be hung in the National Portrait Gallery in London.

muggle born - Sep 11, 2005 1:29 am (#207 of 2974)

Skh, I saw the following JK Rowling veto-ed Steven Spielberg as director for the first Harry Potter film. Rowling had Prince Charles and Duchess of Cornwall to dinner at her house. Rowling hates Harry Potter. Rowling is riled by being seen as a childrens writer. I must admit I don't normally read the rubbish bin page so it seems from your reply that it has been their for a while, Sorry I thought I'd seen something new.

Phelim Mcintyre - Sep 11, 2005 6:26 am (#208 of 2974)

I think the Steven Spielberg bit was new, but I'm not sure.

Ydnam96 - Sep 11, 2005 10:44 am (#209 of 2974)

No, it's been there for a while...

Netherlandic - Sep 11, 2005 1:48 pm (#210 of 2974)

Hope some new information (besides the digital thing) will appear soon. After the release of HBP it seems to me that the big posting is over for a while. That, or everybody is still reading...

Kerstin - Sep 13, 2005 3:46 am (#211 of 2974)

There'a an update in the news section regarding ebay.

Netherlandic - Sep 13, 2005 12:06 pm (#212 of 2974)

Ah, yes, so there is.

riotgrrrl - Sep 13, 2005 9:54 pm (#213 of 2974)

Wow, I didn't think we'd get an update this soon after the release of HBP. ebay must've really ticked her off.

Kerrie-Louise - Sep 16, 2005 12:37 am (#214 of 2974)

Can't blame her for being annoyed. I had a look at ebay after reading the report and there's loads of stuff on there. "Officially signed" HBP "first addition books from he Edinburgh festival etc... complete with "Certificate of authenticity!" If you compare the signatures most of them don't even look the same. And why are these people selling them anyway? if it was my copy no one would even be allowed to touch it!

It's Tonks - Sep 18, 2005 9:21 pm (#215 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Hermione!!

(Well, it's still the 18th here but it's already her birthday in the UK.)

Elanor - Sep 18, 2005 10:00 pm (#216 of 2974)

It is definitely the morning of the 19th on this side of the Atlantic, so happy birthday Hermione!

Neville Longbottom - Sep 19, 2005 3:12 am (#217 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Hermione.

Kerrie-Louise - Sep 19, 2005 3:29 am (#218 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Hermione!

Abracapocus - Sep 19, 2005 4:39 am (#219 of 2974)

Aye, 'appy Birthday, 'ermione!

Mrs. D. - Sep 20, 2005 2:58 pm (#220 of 2974)

My daughter shares Hermione's birthday, but I missed the website yesterday. Did it mention her birthday again?

Neville Longbottom - Sep 20, 2005 4:22 pm (#221 of 2974)

Yes, it did.

Madame Pomfrey - Sep 20, 2005 8:08 pm (#222 of 2974)

To the most clever witch of her time.Happy Belated Birthday, Hermione!

Valfunde - Sep 22, 2005 2:06 pm (#223 of 2974)

Hermione Rocks! You go girl! Happy Belated Birthday to you.

dizzy lizzy - Sep 30, 2005 6:39 pm (#224 of 2974)

The new wizard of the month is....

Fifi Lafolle (1888 – 1971)Author of the 'Enchanted Encounters' series.

I've never heard of her or heard of her series either!

Finn BV - Sep 30, 2005 6:51 pm (#225 of 2974)

Ooh… just dying to read it!

haymoni - Sep 30, 2005 8:33 pm (#226 of 2974)

"Fifi Lafolle"

She sounds like she had LOTS of "Enchanted Encounters".

Elanor - Oct 1, 2005 7:04 am (#227 of 2974)

Fifi LaFolle, a very French name! La Folle means "the lunatic" in French, hmm... A remote relative of Luna maybe?

As for "Fifi", I believe it is the diminutive of "Josephine" and it evokes me dancers of the Moulin-Rouge before 1900, the ones that could have been painted by Toulouse-Lautrec. There is also Maupassant's "Mademoiselle Fifi" novel but it is very unlikely that there is a link (Melle Fifi being the nickname of a man in the novel!). But "Fifi LaFolle", that could have been the title of a Toulouse-Lautrec's painting without a doubt!

Thora - Oct 1, 2005 11:35 am (#228 of 2974)

I really don't recall the series being mentioned in the books, but I guess I would need to go through all the book store scenes to be sure.

Anyone remember them being mentioned? Is this a clue for the next book? I would seriously doubt it, but you never know.


Finn BV - Oct 1, 2005 12:25 pm (#229 of 2974)

Nah, I think the Wizards of the Month very rarely are people mentioned in the books; they're just more stuff for the Lexicon to put in its people pages.

Of course, there are probably exceptions (as always).

It's Tonks - Oct 1, 2005 2:12 pm (#230 of 2974)

I'm sure this has been asked and answered before, but I can't remember. When was the last poll posted on JKR's website and how long was it between the last poll and the one before it? I know she's enjoying her well deserved time off, but it would be soooo nice if she could post just 3 teeny little questions Smile

haymoni - Oct 1, 2005 5:45 pm (#231 of 2974)

It's been too long - that's how long.

She's got to have a stash of questions just sitting there.

How hard could it be to yank 3 out????

Ana Cis - Oct 1, 2005 6:28 pm (#232 of 2974)

We probably won't get to see anything until Halloween.

Ydnam96 - Oct 1, 2005 6:30 pm (#233 of 2974)

Oh, let's be nice. She is a new mom and really we should remember how lucky we are to have an author who interacts so much with her audience. I too am eagerly awaiting a new poll question but...I keep reminding myself that she has a life outside of Harry Potter and that I should respect that.

I don't want to sound condescending...but we should remember how really lucky we are.

Ana Cis - Oct 1, 2005 7:17 pm (#234 of 2974)
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Ydnam, of course you're correct, but the child in me still wants her way.

I really do wish her to enjoy her well deserved time with her family. I appreciate her the more because she hasn't let success affect her priorities when it comes to her family.

pottermom34 - Oct 1, 2005 8:15 pm (#235 of 2974)

Not to mention it may be hard to hurry and get it done (or even started for that matter) being it is her last book of the series. I'm sure it'll be emotional for her. She'll want to savor the writing of it.

The giant squid - Oct 2, 2005 12:31 am (#236 of 2974)

Elanor, here in the states (at least where I'm from), the name Fifi brings to mind a French Poodle or similarly prissy dog. Add that to LaFolle (literally "the fool"?), and I'm thinking we have a female version of Lockhart.


Elanor - Oct 2, 2005 1:35 am (#237 of 2974)

LOL Mike! Now I have in mind a pink poodle dancing the French cancan!

Yes, "folle" (feminine of "fou") means sometimes "fool" (especially if there is "vieux/vieille" meaning old before it, "vieux fou" would be "silly old fool" in English) but more often crazy, insane, lunatic, etc...

Thora - Oct 2, 2005 7:46 pm (#238 of 2974)

Hmmm, I kind of get the impression that there is at least tinsy hints in the monthly choice.

For example things I linked in retrospect to HBP: May 04/05 Felix Summerby, inventor of cheering charms, and then a potion that gives you a perfectly cheerful day.

June 04 Gwenog Jones, quidditch player in the slug club.

Oct 04 Glenda Chittock, isn't she a favorite of Molly's for holiday singing?

July 05 Chauncey Oldridge, victim of dragon pox, which claimed someone's grandfather (total brain lapse here was it Draco's?)

So this on is after the US/UK release: Aug 05 Bridget Wenlock, Established the importance of the number seven

Maybe I'm obsessed, but I firmly believe that she has a wicked grin when doing things on her site and we should at least pay attention to the gifts she gives us.


Weeny Owl - Oct 3, 2005 1:23 am (#239 of 2974)

The Felix Felicis potion didn't give you a perfectly cheerful day... it gave you a lucky day.

It was Celestina Warbeck who was Molly's favorite for singing.

Thora - Oct 3, 2005 11:06 am (#240 of 2974)

Well you got me on the famous singing witch count, but I maintain that a very lucky day would be perfectly cheerful.

Valfunde - Oct 3, 2005 12:31 pm (#241 of 2974)
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Hey, Thora! I'm with you on this. I think she might be telling us something with an "evil" grin. Well, if we can view Fifi, a writer, as a clue from JKR, Fifi has a SERIES of books - called "Enchanted Encounters." With that kind of title and her excessive pinkness and make-up we can determine that Fifi writes the wizarding world's equivalent of our romance novels, like what we call in the US - "bodice-rippers" with a Fabio-like man shirtless holding a heaving buxom woman on the cover.

These books are not high art or considered literature, but since I worked in a bookstore for 5 years, I experienced first hand that fans of a series of romance novels or a particular author are CRAZY about them - (clearing throat) like us Harry Potter fans are about our reading obsession...

Now what I find the most interesting about Fifi writing romance novels for the WW, is that this again brings up another connection to LOVE and a form of it. We know that LOVE will be so very important to Harry and how he is different from Voldy. Obsessive love was mentioned by Slughorn in HBP and this could be a clue to what link there could be between teenage Severus and Lily (for those who think that there might be a Severus crush/love for Lily).

The "enchanted encounters" in romance novels can get pretty graphic and steamy, though! Maybe it can be seen as reference to the growing love and hormones of Harry & Ginny and Ron & Hermione?!

It's Tonks - Oct 3, 2005 9:15 pm (#242 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Professor McGonagall!

Troels Forchhammer - Oct 4, 2005 12:27 am (#243 of 2974)

A very Happy Birthday, indeed, Professor!

I wouldn't presume to offer sherry, but I'm sure a shot of Firewhisky will go down just fine

To Minerva!


Madame Pomfrey - Oct 4, 2005 5:41 am (#244 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Professor McGonnagal! A new Tartan robe and matching slippers to you.

azi - Oct 4, 2005 6:37 am (#245 of 2974)

Happy birthday to Prof. M. McGonagall, my favourite Hogwarts professor!

Elanor - Oct 4, 2005 8:42 am (#246 of 2974)

To Minerva!

**raising my glass to her**

Finn BV - Oct 4, 2005 9:27 am (#247 of 2974)

May you have many more, Minnie.

Good Evans - Oct 4, 2005 10:57 am (#248 of 2974)

Minnie?? Finn I beleive you are being somewhat familiar!!!

Many happy returns Minerva, may all your transfigurations be "seemless".

Finn BV - Oct 4, 2005 11:55 am (#249 of 2974)

Erm… uh… what was that Good Evans?

Happiest of Birthdays to Professor McGonagall, better?

Gina R Snape - Oct 4, 2005 3:04 pm (#250 of 2974)

Happy birthday, Minerva!

Yes, she does seem like a Libra. Very fair lady...

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dizzy lizzy - Oct 4, 2005 3:32 pm (#251 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Minerva!!

May you have many more!

T Brightwater - Oct 4, 2005 5:09 pm (#252 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Minerva, and many happy years!

Mrs. D. - Oct 7, 2005 7:47 am (#253 of 2974)

Has the balled up piece of white paper always been on the bottom right near the picture? I have my screen on high contrast for a game and it has never caught my eye like that before. It doesn't seem to do anything, but I was hoping perhaps Peeves would come by after a time and throw it around or something.

Thora - Oct 12, 2005 10:43 am (#254 of 2974)

I see nothing new... sorry.


Lina - Oct 12, 2005 1:42 pm (#255 of 2974)

Well, she could at least remove the dark mark from the spoilers for the OotP...

Finn BV - Oct 12, 2005 2:49 pm (#256 of 2974)

LOL, Lina. Give people a chance to read the book! That was nearly 2 and a half years ago that book came out! Sheesh, not everybody reads as fast as you do.

Herm oh ninny - Oct 12, 2005 9:36 pm (#257 of 2974)

Finn, how right you are. My friend has has GOF for a year and a half. She is on chapter 15!!! I told her that she can't come with the rest of us to see the movie if she doesn't finish it. I'm mean like that! LOL

Troels Forchhammer - Oct 13, 2005 12:01 am (#258 of 2974)

Oh, well ... I'm currently struggling to finish reading OotP to my kids (in Danish) before the HBP is out in Danish (I won't make it — they're doing a midnight-release this Saturday, and we've only just reached ‘the Door!’ (to the Department of Mysteries, that is).

What we, and probably Jo with the rest of us, tend to forget is that new readers discover these books every day (oh, to be able to read them afresh again ... ), and some of these might wish, even only after reading perhaps CoS, to visit the homepage of the author who has provided them with so much pure joy. But shame on them! They cannot be allowed because old die-hard fans find spoiler warnings a nuisance ... ?

I'm sorry, but it's an old argument on-line, and my personal take is that it is more important not to spoil the enjoyment for the newcomers than having to suffer a bit of extra bother (even if I often find it hard to remember myself, and though I am the kind of person who reads the last pages first — I read The Lightning-struck Tower before I turned the book over and started on The Other Minister )


The giant squid - Oct 13, 2005 2:46 am (#259 of 2974)

I'm with Troels on this one--it's always someone's first time. A better thing might be to attach a "cookie" to the spoilers so that once you've read them the Dark Mark goes away. It's not like Lightmaker has much else to do lately...


Lina - Oct 13, 2005 5:14 am (#260 of 2974)

As you said, Troels, someone might start researching after the CoS, so practically all the questions should be marked with the dark mark? (do you know how many books are there after the CoS ?!?!?! ) I guess that as soon as she answers some questions regarding HBP, she will move the dark mark to those questions. She might even make a new poll that is not related to the HBP before she does that. That would be so much alike her.

BTW, my younger daughter said that she would like to read the Forum but she doesn't understand English good enough. Kate told her that that would spoil the reading of the books for her (she hasn't read the PoA yet but she saw the film), and she replied that this is the point - she wants to know what is happening without reading the books!

Hogs Head - Oct 13, 2005 5:55 am (#261 of 2974)

Troels, promise your Kinder those great Danish polsers when you finish the book -- that will incentivize them to finish the book quickly. If you want to get rich, you should open some of those stands in the U.S. Our hotdogs are great, but not at all the same as the polser. (Although our standard fare "regular mustard" and "spicy mustard" are both perhaps a little better than the yellow stuff they dispense in the polser stands in Copenhagen.) I suppose the Kinder are too young to promise them a Carl's Special? Can't really get that here either, except sometimes in a specialty shop.

Finn BV - Oct 16, 2005 5:28 pm (#262 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Professor Flitwick! (All right, first to post on his bday! )

Stephanie M. - Oct 16, 2005 7:55 pm (#263 of 2974)

Happy birthday Professor Flitwick!! (Or as I would like to call him, Wicky.)

skh - Oct 17, 2005 5:58 am (#264 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Wicky! (I like that, Stephanie!)

Does anyone know if there is a particular day of the week that changes often happen on, or is it more random than that? I always think when checking the official site on Mondays "oh, there won't be an update today anyhow, it's not Tues." - is that just an irrational thing that's lodged itself wierdly in my brain?


wolfgrl - Oct 17, 2005 9:12 am (#265 of 2974)

I doubt it means anything, but the official website is loading very very slowly for me and I have a T1 connection so it is usually pretty fast. I hope they are updating.

Aurora Gubbins - Oct 17, 2005 10:36 am (#266 of 2974)

Nothing happening for me - same speedy reactions. Hope we get something soon but I'm not holding my breath! I don't really expect anything until Christmas, but what a wonderful present that will be!

Aurora xx

Madame Pomfrey - Oct 22, 2005 6:17 am (#267 of 2974)

9 more days til Halloween. I'm sure we will see something new.We always have on this magical day.

riotgrrrl - Oct 22, 2005 9:45 pm (#268 of 2974)

Yes, maybe. Can you remember the updates from the past couple of years? (Sorry, I haven't kept a record.)I'm so excited about the movie- do you think the update may have to do with GoF? Mmmmm......

Gina R Snape - Oct 23, 2005 7:32 am (#269 of 2974)

riotgrrrl, we have no guarantee there will be an update on Halloween, though we are all sitting her hoping!

I can't recall a time when JKR used her website for the purpose of a film, except maybe to say she went to a premiere or something.

I'd rather get some little trivia and maybe a little game in the locked room that tells us something or teases us about our questions and gives us something else to ponder over.

I can't help but wonder if we'll get a new poll at some point.

Madame Pomfrey - Oct 23, 2005 7:47 am (#270 of 2974)

Gina is right.There are no guarantees that there will be an update.I just can't recall a Halloween that we didn't have one.As for records,I think Tomoe keeps such records but,I'm not certain.

Ydnam96 - Oct 23, 2005 9:12 am (#271 of 2974)

I think the Lexicon now has a page that has all of the previous updates and all the info on it.

Neville Longbottom - Oct 24, 2005 10:08 am (#272 of 2974)

There are no guarantees that there will be an update.I just can't recall a Halloween that we didn't have one.

I might be mistaken, but isn't the website only around (at least in it's current form) since May 2004. That means there was one Halloween between then and now. I don't think it's wnough to see a pattern. ;-) But I definitely hope you are right.

Ann - Oct 25, 2005 4:39 pm (#273 of 2974)

Weird bit: I just checked the web site (compulsive and a glutton for punishment as I am), and instead of the poll results and a notation that there'll be new questions coming soon, the left hand side of the page says merely "54%" Nothing else. The answer to the patronus question is still on the right. A glitch or (hope never dies) an indication that an update is in progress?

Okay, I just closed the site and then went back and it was all normal. 54% was the winning percentage--presumably what they plugged into their form letter this time. So it was probably a glitch...

Madame Pomfrey - Oct 30, 2005 9:04 am (#274 of 2974)

Happy Birtday,Molly! Hope you hear plenty of Celestina Barbeck songs on your day.

Now playing..A cauldron full of hot strong love.*

Finn BV - Oct 30, 2005 9:09 am (#275 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Mollywobbles!

Stephanie M. - Oct 30, 2005 1:38 pm (#276 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Molly!

Gina R Snape - Oct 30, 2005 4:07 pm (#277 of 2974)

Well, it's after midnight GMT time. No changes on JKR's site except for the wizard of the month going back to Fifi.

Ponine - Oct 30, 2005 5:51 pm (#278 of 2974)

Are the sounds different?? They seem so loud and ominous this evening...

Happy Halloween to everyone, by the way, I miss you all!!

Finn BV - Oct 30, 2005 5:55 pm (#279 of 2974)

Ponine! How ya been!

Ponine - Oct 30, 2005 5:58 pm (#280 of 2974)

Hey Finn!! Grad school is kicking my butt still, and I have had pneumonia, which didn't help matters, but I am getting better now... I find myself looking forward to Christmas, and being able to catch up on all my threads... how are everyone here? And oh, by the way - they did change the sound effects, right? I am listening to it now, and it pretty cool, altough I can't understand why the birds are chirping this time a night... hmmm

Finn BV - Oct 30, 2005 6:15 pm (#281 of 2974)

Oh, feel better, hope to see you more often soon!

I do believe they changed the sound effects.

Kerrie-Louise - Oct 31, 2005 1:44 am (#282 of 2974)

Happy Samhain all, It's 8.43am here in the UK and whilst it was very slow loading I have seen nothing new on the site. Sorry!

Sticky Glue - Oct 31, 2005 12:42 pm (#283 of 2974)

If we don't get anything for the 31st Oct, maybe we will get something on the 5th of Nov instead for GUY FAWKES NIGHT.

Sticky Glue - Oct 31, 2005 5:55 pm (#284 of 2974)

There is a new witch of the month "Cavlotta Pinkstone"

Finn BV - Oct 31, 2005 6:33 pm (#285 of 2974)

Carlotta… silly girl. Trying to convince them Muggles.

Troels Forchhammer - Nov 1, 2005 1:26 am (#286 of 2974)

I like Carlotta! (one of the better Wizards of the Month, IMO)

I know that inside Potterverse Rowling has stated that there will be no reconcilliation between Muggles and Wizards; they will forever remain in their separate existences, the wizard society an unknown parasite on the Muggle society, but it might be interesting to play with the thought of the wizards going out of their secrecy ...


Gina R Snape - Nov 1, 2005 8:14 am (#287 of 2974)

Indeed, Carlotta could be seen as someone committing multiple acts of civil disobedience. It would be interesting to know why she wants to remove the secrecy, and what side she's on (if any) in regards to the pureblood/mixed blood/muggle debate.

Aurora Gubbins - Nov 2, 2005 4:18 pm (#288 of 2974)

Ok, so who thinks that all the horcruxes are shown on the website then?

Aurora xx

Herm oh ninny - Nov 2, 2005 4:52 pm (#289 of 2974)

Oooooh! That would very sneaky!

Troels Forchhammer - Nov 3, 2005 1:39 am (#290 of 2974)

Admittedly I didn't look very closely, but I haven't found anything to match any of the known Horcruxes ...

Too bad, really, 'cause it was a brilliant idea


skh - Nov 3, 2005 3:57 am (#291 of 2974)

Wow - what a cool thought! I guess if they are there, they are in "hidden" format....

Let's start with the known Horcruxes. How about this:

1. Hufflepuff cup - okay, I always thought of the cup as a chalice type thing, but there is certainly a coffee mug on the desk. More interestingly, the Trophy Room is FULL of cups of the more chalice variety!

2. Diary - well, there is definitely a diary on the desk

3. The Ring - this is hard! Well, the phone keeps ringing? Or the hair bobbin is ring shaped?

4. The Locket - hmm... finding this one nearly impossible, even with HUGE leaps of imaagination. How about the fact that Jo seems to have something round her enck in the photo in the cube on the desktop? (Although quite likely just the collar of her jumper!). There is a key on the desktop (lock it?!! poor!) and a mini-chest on the Links page. Also, the doodle of Nearly Headless Nick in the scrapbook... he seems to have some sort of brooch on - could it be a locket?

Now, potential ones, harder, as of course we don't know if the item is a Horcrux or not...:

1. Nagini / basilisk - the Dark Mark?

2. Wormtail's Hand - there are pointing hands in the adverts in the Rumours section? And at the top of the page in this section you can also see pointing fingers.

I like the theory, but am struggling to identify possible mateches for the known Horcruxes, can anyone shed light? I am hampered by poor imagination!

Also, in regard to the unknown horcruxes - the toy bus on the rubbish page = the Kinght Bus? What's the picture of the dog in relation to? How about all those crescent moon shapes again? The toy train - hmm, hardly the Hogwarts Express!

Please rip apart the above - even I can see the holes!


Madame Pomfrey - Nov 3, 2005 6:16 am (#292 of 2974)

Fifi Lafolle had a necklace but it looked more like the cursed necklace Draco sent Dumbledore.What about Dumbledores watch? Surely Tom Riddle didn't make a horcrux out of it?

I think Jo gives us clues through the wizards of the month also.This month the most noticable thing is the sparkling green eyes(Lily?)

skh - Nov 3, 2005 7:03 am (#293 of 2974)

Mme Pomfrey, was thinking about those too, but couldn't see anything in this month's one. God point.

frogface - Nov 3, 2005 10:37 am (#294 of 2974)

It could be significant that this witch is still alive. She also wants muggles to know about magic, so that might indicate she isn't predujice. Her age also stuck out too me, it appears shes quite old. Having said all that, I'm not sure there are clues in the wizards of the month. I only say this because I can't remember any of the ones that appeared before HBP came out that seem to be clues for what could have happened in book six.

azi - Nov 3, 2005 10:53 am (#295 of 2974)

I thought her age linked quite nicely with McGonagall. McGonagall is down as being born around 1925 in the Lexicon, while Carlotta is born around 1920 (if I remember correctly). Assuming they both attended Hogwarts, they may have had contact with each other. If what Frogface suggested is correct, maybe Harry could hear of her through McGonagall.

Obviously, I'm just making ideas. There is also a massive chance they dont know each other. I think McGonagall may disapprove of such blatant law-breaking as well. Especially when it comes to performing magic in front of muggles.

I think I may have just shot down my own theory.

lkb - Nov 3, 2005 12:58 pm (#296 of 2974)

The ring is on the door page, it is the port key. Can an object be more than one thing magically?

Emily - Nov 3, 2005 2:46 pm (#297 of 2974)

Tecnically, ikb, Jo told us that is a hair tie. I personally always thought it resembled a napkin ring...

I really like this theory about the horcruxes.

Mme Pomfrey, what type of clues? Do you think Harry should, for example, try to contact the current one?

Madame Pomfrey - Nov 3, 2005 4:48 pm (#298 of 2974)

I can't recall all the wizard's of the month.But, maybe if we had them in front of us we could come up with something.I can't help but think that there is purpose in everything Jo does.

Finn BV - Nov 3, 2005 6:08 pm (#299 of 2974)

Madame Pomfrey, the wizards of the month are at the calendar at the bottom of this Lexicon page.

DJ Evans - Nov 3, 2005 6:09 pm (#300 of 2974)

Not to get completely off the current subject here, but in talking about the Wizard's of the Month I was wondering if anyone "did" have a list of them, do they by chance also have their birth year/deaths too? Reason why, I was just curious -- I noticed in the last 3 or 4 months none of them appeared to be all that old. Yet in the WW we are told by Jo that wizards tend to live a bit longer than Muggles do. We've got DD over 150 & then there is that one wizard at the O.W.L.S. that helped in the testing that if I remember right, he was quite old. But other than that, who have we've seen let's say over 75/80 years of age? I'm not counting Nicolas Flamel, as he took an elixer made from the Sorcerer Stone. But it just seemed sort of wierd that there aren't any wizard of a great age besides DD. Unless I am going totally blank & have forgotten someone(s)?

What? Did LV & his troop of DE's get rid of everyone over the age of 50 back then?

As I said it's no big deal -- I just got curious about it the other day & figured if someone did have a listing of them if they could check to see what their ages were. Aprreciate...

Later, Deb

Edit: Just saw your post Finn (you posted as I was writing ) thanks for the link -- I couldn't find it earlier. I thought it might by some chance have the info I was interested in but sad to say it only listed their names. So I'm still curious if anyone does have their ages.

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Finn BV - Nov 3, 2005 6:46 pm (#301 of 2974)

Deb, there is also a timeline, that has links to each of the WotMs. Some of the more recent ones already have their dates put in. If you really wanted to research, the Lexicon does have all the people in their people guides.

DJ Evans - Nov 3, 2005 8:31 pm (#302 of 2974)

Thanks Finn! ***wanders off shaking head in shame that I didn't think about looking on the time line list DUH*** Smile

Madame Pomfrey, I went ahead & did the research to answer my own question & I thought since I had looked it all up, that I would post the Wizard of the Month below for you & the others:

May '04 Felix Summberbee 1447-1508 (61)
Jun '04 Gwenog Jones 1968-present (29)
Jul '04 Donaghan Tremlett 1972-present (25)
Aug '04 Honoria Nutcombe 1665-1743 (78)
Sept '04 Uric the Oddball "Medieval/no dates" you've just got to love that name
Oct '04 Glenda Chittock 1964-present (33)
Nov '04 Devlin Whiteborn 1945-present (52)
Dec '04 Ignatia Wildsmith 1227-1320 (93)
Jan '05 Derwent Shimpling 1912-present (85)
Feb '05 Artemisia Lufkin 1754-1825 (71)
Mar '05 Mungo Bonham 1560-1659 (99)
Apr '05 Gondoline Oliphant 1720-1799 (79)
May '05 Felix Summerbee "again" (see May '04)
Jun '05 Elfrida Clagg 1612-1687 (75)
Jul '05 Chauncey Oldridge 1342-1379 (37)
Aug '05 Bridget Wenlock 1202-1285 (83)
Sept '05 Gaspard Shingleton 1959-present (38)
Oct '05 Fifi LaFolle 1888-1971 (83)
Nov '05 Carlotta Pinkstone 1922-present (75)

I hope that helps you & the others Poppy!

NOTE: I put their ages in ( ) for those who might have been curious as I was. I used the year 1997 for the "present" year as that is where HbP ends. And since I was on the Wizard pages I scanned the rest of the wizards & found just 6 that were a 100 or more in age.

Musidona Barkwith 1520-1666 (146)
Griselda Marchbanks 1830-present (167)
Newton "Newt" Artemis Fido Scamander 1897-present (100)
Grogan Stump 1770-1884 (114)
Cassandra Vablatsky 1894-1997 (103)
Lord Stoddard Withers 1642-1769 (127)

Hmmmm? I have no idea what that says, but I would have thought we would have heard/read about more of them in the HP books than what we have. Oh well.....

Later, Deb

Madame Pomfrey - Nov 4, 2005 6:51 am (#303 of 2974)

Thanks Finn and D.J.

Let the research begin!

wolfgrl - Nov 4, 2005 6:57 am (#304 of 2974)

I just looked at the Lexicon calander of updates mentioned above and saw that Draco Malfoy's B-Day is June 5th. How do we know that? I don't remember it being on the official site. Is it in the books?

Madame Pomfrey - Nov 4, 2005 7:05 am (#305 of 2974)

The message "Happy Birthday,Draco" was mentioned on the calendar on Jo's site.Incidently,Draco and Snape are the only two DE she has wished Happy Bithday.Does this mean that they are truly good?

skh - Nov 4, 2005 9:20 am (#306 of 2974)

Mme Pomfrey - not sure about good, but I have to say I do suspect they will be redeemed / redeem themselves somehow. It's too obvious that they're "bad" isn't it? Maybe Jo wants to show us as well that black and white rarely exists, there are lots of shades of grey? I'm sure there's a thread discussing this indepth, but to be honest, I don't really want to get in the why's and wherefore's - I'm just suspicious of our author, that's all!


Sticky Glue - Nov 5, 2005 5:11 am (#307 of 2974)

I'm probably a little off topic here, but I realy thought we would get an update on her site for Guy Fawkes night - but it is now 1am in the morning of the 6th Nov here in New Zealand, and no updates!

Madame Pomfrey - Nov 5, 2005 10:09 am (#308 of 2974)

Oops, I was jumping the gun a bit,Sarah Possible redemption is a much better description than "good."

Seven - Nov 6, 2005 9:00 pm (#309 of 2974)

Hey Sticky Glue...

I have a feeling that Jo isn't going to be updating the site any time soon...

...she has a minimum of 1 1/2 years to keep us entertained before book seven is out, so she has to ration any information she's willing to give out over that time. It makes sense that she's taking advantage of the GoF movie stuff keeping us preoccupied while she takes a break.

Something at christmas would be cool though Smile

Do you know when GoF opens in New Zealand? I'm going spare!

Cheers, Seven.

Sticky Glue - Nov 7, 2005 5:00 am (#310 of 2974)

Hi Seven,

November 24th I think, so we still have a couple of weeks to wait!

Just as well there wasn't an update on guy fawkes night, I wouldn't have had time to make the most of it any way. I was too busy on call outs with the fire brigade putting out fires. Guy Fawkes on a Saturday night combined with dry vegitation and a fine night made things a bit hectic. I had just come home from several call outs when I posted that last message and just after posting it, got another call out, at least we got home in time to watch the Rugby All Blacks v's Wales.

azi - Nov 7, 2005 7:49 am (#311 of 2974)

You celebrate bonfire night in New Zealand? Cool, I thought it was only an England/UK thing.

Shame the website wasn't updated. JKR could have told us if there was any significance in there being a Rookwood involved in the Gunpowder Plot. Apparently he rode a single horse 30 miles in two hours (I think that would usually be a day's ride on one horse) to warn fellow conspirators that the plot had been foiled.

riotgrrrl - Nov 7, 2005 8:36 am (#312 of 2974)

I was quite surprised that there wasn't an update on Halloween since it's always an eventful holiday in the books. Seven is correct in thinking that the release of the GoF movie will at least keep ME occupied for a while. It opens here at midnight in the 17th.

Gina R Snape - Nov 7, 2005 9:42 am (#313 of 2974)

I was surprised she did not go to the GoF premiere in London. Perhaps she is withdrawing from all things HP, including her site, for the near future.

azi - Nov 7, 2005 10:21 am (#314 of 2974)

I wouldn't blame JKR if she was! She deserves a rest, and spending more time with family etc.

I thought she was on the list to go to the premiere. I only skimmed through it mind, so maybe I imagined that.

KTO - Nov 7, 2005 10:56 am (#315 of 2974)

HPANA stated Jo did not attend due to a family illness, my prayers to her and her family. KT

Finn BV - Nov 7, 2005 11:10 am (#316 of 2974)

Yes, I heard that she was with her husband, who is sick.

Lina - Nov 7, 2005 2:09 pm (#317 of 2974)

Ooooooooh, healing charms to her family!

Sticky Glue - Nov 8, 2005 1:37 am (#318 of 2974)

Hi Azi,

Yes, being a Common Wealth Country we carry on several traditions that originate in the mother land. But Nov 5th here is in summer and can be very dry - alot of people want to ban fire works - I think it would be a shame.

I'm still disapointed that we didn't get an update - but I hope Neil and the rest of Jo's family get better and are in good health soon.

azi - Nov 8, 2005 8:25 am (#319 of 2974)

It would be a shame to ban the fireworks, but I suppose if you were to get massive fires as a result of them it would be safer to do so. Nov. 5th here tends to include rain, so we're generally ok!

I also send healing charms to JKR and her family.

skh - Nov 25, 2005 3:51 am (#320 of 2974)

There was some discussion a while ago about items on the JKR website that could be Horcruxes... there are a lot of books in the Library / links page... Now, of course a book (of sorts) was already used, the Riddle diary, but could there be another book? If so, what would it be?

Just a thought - trying to stir up some conversation for a dull Friday!


Madame Pomfrey - Nov 25, 2005 7:44 am (#321 of 2974)

skh,I don't know about another book but I have wondered about the trophy with Tom Riddle on it{award for special services to the school.)

Gina R Snape - Nov 25, 2005 7:46 am (#322 of 2974)

Oh drat. And there I thought there was something new on the website!

skh - Nov 25, 2005 9:01 am (#323 of 2974)

Sorry Gina!

That's true, Mme. Pomfrey, am thinking it's too much of a coincidence to see Tom and Bella there...

On another note - saw the movie last night, was well pleased! Haven't necessarily been the biggest fan of the HP movie in the past, but that was good - and (although it hurts to say!) the changing round of the script and bits that had to be cut to accommodate a movie were well done, resulting in an excellent viewing performance!

Gina R Snape - Nov 25, 2005 12:06 pm (#324 of 2974)

skh, have you visited the GoF movie thread? A number of us have chimed in with thoughts on the film.

Elanor - Nov 25, 2005 12:59 pm (#325 of 2974)

LOL Gina, that was the first thing I thought as well! As December approaches, I was hoping that, maybe, the Advent calendar was back on the site. I know she doesn't have the same kind of gift to give us than last year but I loved that calendar and I am still hoping she may have a little Christmas surprise for us this year too!

Gina R Snape - Nov 25, 2005 6:59 pm (#326 of 2974)

:waves at Elanor:

Well I think it's still too early yet for an Advent calendar. But let's keep our fingers crossed!

Amilia Smith - Nov 26, 2005 1:20 pm (#327 of 2974)

When did the Christmas decorations come up last year?


Good Evans - Nov 26, 2005 3:26 pm (#328 of 2974)

I would have thought 1st December Mills - and that would tie in with an advent calendar if she will be so kind - please Jo - just give us something - even if it is a new FAQ poll!!!

Chemyst - Nov 26, 2005 5:06 pm (#329 of 2974)

On the liturgical calendar, Advent starts November 27, so in some parts of the world it has begun. But a lot of reusable advent calendars that are sold now just count down 25 days beginning December 1.

I think JKR's site last year had 25 days... 'Remember the oversized candy some people could see?

Gina R Snape - Nov 26, 2005 6:50 pm (#330 of 2974)

Ha! Oh yeah, I remember that candy. Wasn't it confirmed that a hacker got in?

Snuffles - Nov 27, 2005 7:46 am (#331 of 2974)

Oh bother! I saw 11 new posts and thought there was an update. Oh well maybe soon!.

I think it was confirmed that it was a hacker Gina, a very good one if you ask me! It had us all wondering!

LooneyLuna - Nov 28, 2005 5:39 pm (#332 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Bill Weasley!

Springtime - Nov 28, 2005 6:57 pm (#333 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Bill Very Happy

Stephanie M. - Nov 28, 2005 8:57 pm (#334 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Bill!!

skh - Nov 29, 2005 3:11 am (#335 of 2974)

Have a good one Bill, my fellow-Sagitarian!

lkb - Nov 29, 2005 6:02 am (#336 of 2974)

Happy B-day Bill. Have we seen his name before?

jose043 - Nov 29, 2005 6:03 am (#337 of 2974)

Happy birthday Bill Weasley from another Sagitarian

skh - Nov 29, 2005 8:08 am (#338 of 2974)

Do you think any / much thought is put into the birthdays, in terms of star signs? I suppose thought has gone into the kids birthdays, to ensure that they are within the correct school year and so on, but in terms of the adults and the birthdays on the website, is there any significance? (e.g. the twins on April Fool's Day and so on...)


Or have we discussed all this before?!

Madame Pomfrey - Nov 29, 2005 8:52 am (#339 of 2974)

Happy B-Day, Bill! "the COOL one."

Gina R Snape - Nov 29, 2005 10:25 am (#340 of 2974)

I definitely think JKR has thought out the astrological signs (well, sun signs) of some of the major characters. Snape, Mrs. Weasley, and Hermione come to mind is well fitting their signs.

Finn BV - Nov 29, 2005 10:47 am (#341 of 2974)

Another big one, Bill. Good job. Hope you've recovered a bit from your incident in HBP.

Finn BV - Nov 30, 2005 6:28 pm (#342 of 2974)

Disappointing new WotM – we already knew about him!

Good Evans - Dec 1, 2005 4:36 am (#343 of 2974)

as Finn says - a new WOTM but no other updates - no tinsel no bow on the desktop and no holly by the room of requirement - so maybe something will come on a bit later in the month, but I had hoped today being the 1st would have at least had a new FAQ!!!! boo!

Thora - Dec 1, 2005 2:38 pm (#344 of 2974)

Perhaps she felt the advent calendar didn't go so well last year? Well I guess we'll know if she's truly sick of us if the year on the Diary doesn't change to 2006.

Personally I wouldn't mind a nice rendition of "God rest ye merry hippogriffs".


Amilia Smith - Dec 2, 2005 12:24 am (#345 of 2974)

Good to see you, Thora!

I was expecting decorations too. I figured that if her husband is too ill for her to be able to attend the GoF premier, she probably doesn't have time to do much on the website either. But she wouldn't have to do the decorations, would she? Wouldn't Lightmaker (that is who designed her website, right?) be in charge of that sort of thing?


Grindylow - Dec 2, 2005 11:15 am (#346 of 2974)

Hi All...first post in a very long time. I have been checking her site periodically to see if there was anything new and have not seen ANYTHING. I really hope for ANYTHING soon....

Tomoé - Dec 2, 2005 4:00 pm (#347 of 2974)

Yeah, I have been away of Harry Potter's stuff for four months and I didn't miss anything, that's quite disturbing. o.O

Ann - Dec 3, 2005 12:05 am (#348 of 2974)

Someone suggested, a few posts back, that Lightmaker might put up the Christmas decorations, implying that it wouldn't actually require JKR to do much work to update her website. But I don't think that's the case. They do the graphics and the routine updates, both under her direction, but I think all the content is hers--and she updates that herself.

It would be nice to get an update, but after writing HBP, which seems to have been a fairly intense process (particularly since she was pregnant through most of it), and then having a baby, she deserves to take some time off and enjoy her family. (I hope her husband being sick was just a ruse to get out of yet another public appearance). Given how happy she has made us and our families, surely we can find it in our hearts to cut the lady a little slack.

She said in one of the post-HBP interviews that she wouldn't be seriously starting in on Book Seven until sometime in 2006. I think she probably will be taking a complete vacation from Harry Potter until then. But when she starts writing again, and is fully engaged in her characters, her plot, and the world she's created, she'll be back teasing us with hints and puzzles, and commenting on the discussion sites. I look forward to it--but, in the meantime, it's nice for us to be able to take things a bit more slowly as well. After all, when Book Seven finally comes out, it will all be over--except of course for the re-reads!

Amilia Smith - Dec 3, 2005 12:12 am (#349 of 2974)

Sorry, Ann. I didn't mean to imply that I thought the content didn't come from Jo herself. I just meant that since the Christmas decorations are just graphics, Lightmaker could put them up without having to bother her. Which was why I was expecting decorations rather than a real update.


bella - Dec 3, 2005 12:40 am (#350 of 2974)

JKR deserves a good long break after pounding out HBP. I don't at all blame her for not wanting to look at anything to do with HP for a while. However, with that said, some new decorations would be nice. Smile

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Phelim Mcintyre - Dec 3, 2005 2:38 am (#351 of 2974)

But nothing about the new movie, let alone hints about the next book. No new fan site award winner for months. Is it Jo who is taking a break or has the depth of the Harry Potter web world suddenly dreid up?

bella - Dec 3, 2005 9:29 am (#352 of 2974)

Or, maybe (hopefully) she is too busy writing. : )

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 3, 2005 3:48 pm (#353 of 2974)

I think the Web site is still quite active.It takes a while to download sometimes which is telling me alot of other people are trying to get on as well(may or may not be the case.) Anyway,I like Bella's idea of her being busy writing.Didn't the lights go up around Dec.5 last year?Or was that when I finally got a chance to check it out?

skh - Dec 5, 2005 8:32 am (#354 of 2974)

Hey Ann - I guess it's not that we begrudge Jo time off with her new baby / family / even just time off after writing us a huge new install in HPB in any way at all, just that we want this site to update... in some sort of abstract way that divorces JKR the author from Jo, the mother!

Although the point that she seems to be taking time off from all HP related activity at the moment seems to be correct, doesn't it?

Ah well, hopefully there'll be lots of lovely new content in the New Year.


Ann - Dec 5, 2005 7:40 pm (#355 of 2974)

I wasn't very clear, Sarah--my point was, she'd probably have to give it some attention to update it. If we just got the Christmas decorations from last year without any other changes, it would be even more frustrating than nothing. The problem is, we want her; and she's given us a lot of that at this point. She's a bit obsessive about Potter & Company, too, I suspect, and the long silence may be something she's doing intentionally, so she's not tempted.

Elanor - Dec 5, 2005 11:17 pm (#356 of 2974)

Happy birthday Hagrid!

I miss the Christmas decorations and the Advent calendar too. We've been so spoilt last year and till the HBP release that it has become natural for us to wait for updates and some will come, that's certain! We just have to wait, thanking her for all that she already gave us... Having said that, a "happy Christmas" message from her only would make us happy, wouldn't it?

Kerrie-Louise - Dec 6, 2005 1:20 am (#357 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Hagrid!

Snuffles - Dec 6, 2005 1:40 am (#358 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Hagrid! Have a Stoat sandwich and a tankard of mead on me!!

skh - Dec 6, 2005 5:36 am (#359 of 2974)

Ann - fair point, well made!

Hagrid, have a good one mate (will certainly raise a glass in your honour on Thurs., when celebrating my own!)

jose043 - Dec 6, 2005 6:02 am (#360 of 2974)

Happy birthday Hagrid & many more.

Finn BV - Dec 6, 2005 11:43 am (#361 of 2974)

Happy BDay Hagrid!

Star Crossed - Dec 6, 2005 2:29 pm (#362 of 2974)

I know JKR deserves her break, but I haven't been here since before Hermione's birthday. I think she could just post a little 'hello' or something. Sad

Stephanie M. - Dec 6, 2005 2:59 pm (#363 of 2974)

Happy Birthday day Hagger!

T Brightwater - Dec 6, 2005 4:00 pm (#364 of 2974)

A Giant-sized Happy Birthday to Hagrid, and many more!

(also happy name-day to Nearly Headless Nick!)

KTO - Dec 7, 2005 1:16 pm (#365 of 2974)

While not directly related to Jo's website she is/has been interviewed and it will be broadcast on Saturday, does anyone know the date the interview was conducted? I am hoping she gives us some idea of when book seven might be completed, the brief release states that for the first time she is aware that she is finishing the series and also that if she writes again she will do it under an assumed name as she does not want the pressure and publicity that would ensue.

Happy Holidays to all, KT

jose043 - Dec 9, 2005 9:33 pm (#366 of 2974)

Hi all BBC Radio4, this Saturday 10th at 9:00am English time, for the interview with Stephen Fry & J K Rowling.

Josephine & Anne

Phelim Mcintyre - Dec 10, 2005 5:44 am (#367 of 2974)

does this mean an update may be on its way related to the interview?

Aurora Gubbins - Dec 10, 2005 4:18 pm (#368 of 2974)

Go to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and click on 'Choice of the Day Saturday; Living with Harry Potter,' a recording of a conversation between Stephen Fry and Jo Rowling. Fantastic!!!

Dr Filibuster - Dec 10, 2005 4:46 pm (#369 of 2974)


I've been eagerly awaiting this interview.

I did morning chores checking the clock, then I got my radio tuned in at 10am and listened to the news, then 20 minutes of a programme called "Excess baggage" about travellers' tales wondering how on earth JKR would fit in.

THEN I discovered it was on at 9 O'Clock. Why oh why was I convinced it was at 10? Must be because it's the 10th

Ah well, I'll have to make do with the partial transcript. :sulk:

PS: I always imagine Stephen Fry saying Dumbledore's lines when I read the books.

It's Tonks - Dec 10, 2005 7:17 pm (#370 of 2974)

Aurora Gubbins -- thanks for posting the link. I would never have heard it if the link wasn't posted. I never seem to be able to find these wonderful websites by myself. I enjoyed listening to it.

jose043 - Dec 11, 2005 3:53 am (#371 of 2974)
Edited by Kip Carter Dec 11, 2005 4:14 am

Hi All

If you missed the interview with JK Rowling and Stephen Fry BBC Radio4 are going to be replaying the interview.

In a rare recorded conversation, J K Rowling and Stephen Fry, the voice of the books on audio, discuss the process of bringing their creations to life on and off the page. [Rptd Sat 24th Dec 5.00pm]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

For any of you that can listen online, enjoy the interview.

Josephine and Anne

The next program will be aired Saturday 24 December 2005 17:00 GMT or 9:00 AM PST Forum time. Check this London time page to compute when you should tune in.

I trust the BBC link for content. - Kip

It's Tonks - Dec 11, 2005 8:29 pm (#372 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Charlie!

Hogs Head - Dec 12, 2005 5:54 am (#373 of 2974)

While I enjoyed the interview, I didn't think she said much that had import either on unwraveling the mysteries of Book 6 or in terms of hints for Book 7. Did anyone else have a different impression? (Now I missed the last 5 minutes, so there might have been a great ephiphany then.)

Gina R Snape - Dec 12, 2005 6:09 am (#374 of 2974)

I felt the same way. The entire interview felt like a JKR/Frye mutual admiration society meeting. Not that I don't admire them both, but, I was hoping for at least a vague hint of something in there.

Springtime - Dec 12, 2005 6:21 am (#375 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Charlie Weasley Very Happy

jose043 - Dec 12, 2005 6:24 am (#376 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Charlie Weasley

Phelim Mcintyre - Dec 12, 2005 7:00 am (#377 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Charlie. I thought you were in the year below me in school. But I can let you know he wasn't bullied. Look at his big brother and his mother. Would you pick on someone when there is the threat of Molly raging at you.

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 12, 2005 8:12 am (#378 of 2974)

Happy Birthday,Charlie.A new pair of dragon hide gloves to you!

skh - Dec 12, 2005 10:49 am (#379 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Charlie - hopefully some one sent you a bottle of fire whiskey (you strike me as a bit of wild boy!)

Finn BV - Dec 12, 2005 8:49 pm (#380 of 2974)

Happy Belated Birthday Charlie! Keep up the good work with those dragons!!

Kerrie-Louise - Dec 13, 2005 1:23 am (#381 of 2974)

Shucks! I saw all of those posts and felt sure there had been some news on the website. Oh well!

Stringer - Dec 13, 2005 2:10 pm (#382 of 2974)

I would just like to say I miss hearing from JK. The radio interview was nice to listen to, but I wish we would see some sign of her on the website. And if not, I'd at least like to wish her and everyone else a Happy Holiday Season!

Lina - Dec 13, 2005 2:55 pm (#383 of 2974)

I've been following this thread for a long time, but I can't remember if this subject has been brought up:

Before HBP came out, the site has been up for more than a year. Meaning, all the important birthdays had the opportunity to be published. It sounds quite logical that we saw no "Happy birthday Sirius Black" because we already knew that he was dead. But, having quite a short memory, I had to check with the Lexicon first, and it appears that there was no "Happy birthday Albus Dumbledore" either.

Does it just mean that all the characters that were congratulated for their birthdays are about to survive the series? The more I think about it, the more I come to that conclusion. I'd like to hear your opinions (while we wait for any update).

Diagon Nilly - Dec 13, 2005 2:57 pm (#384 of 2974)

Does anyone know what other characters didn't get a mention?

Stephanie M. - Dec 13, 2005 3:27 pm (#385 of 2974)

Happy really belated Birthday Charlie!!!

(Charlie is one of my favorite characters.)

Finn BV - Dec 13, 2005 3:43 pm (#386 of 2974)

Lina, I believe (not to discredit you or anything) that I have heard that around somewhere… Aha! Here it is! Just back in August: Hogs Head, "# JK Rowling Official Site" #168, 22 Aug 2005 8:05 am.

Snuffles - Dec 13, 2005 3:54 pm (#387 of 2974)

Hmmm, I know she isn't a main character as such but I noticed Luna hasn't had a birthday!

azi - Dec 13, 2005 4:07 pm (#388 of 2974)

Neither has Tonks.

Chemyst - Dec 13, 2005 5:05 pm (#389 of 2974)

Uh-oh. I can't find a birthday listing for Trelawny. And she wasn't mentioned at DD's funeral either...

Lina - Dec 14, 2005 12:57 am (#390 of 2974)

Thank you, Finn. It was not exactly Hogs Head, but more like Azi who came with the theory. As I said, I was not entirely sure that it was mine theory. It is very probable that that idea needed some time to grow up in my head.

Besides already mentioned characters, I can think about Mundungus Fletcher and Horace Slughorn at the first thought. It doesn't have to mean anything, but I would find missing Luna and Trelawney quite alarming.

Amilia Smith - Dec 14, 2005 1:26 am (#391 of 2974)

I wouldn't worry too much about Slughorn yet. We didn't know him before July, so she could hardly have wished him a Happy Birthday before that. So he's still got a few months until the entire year has cycled around.

But now I am rather worried for Luna and Tonks.


skh - Dec 14, 2005 3:23 am (#392 of 2974)

Yes - I'd say things look bad for Luna and Tonks! I suppose she has to kill off more "major" characters, and a good way of doing it is killing the "second string" majors, for want of a better term (sorry to Tonks and Luna fans - I like them too! But it is a fair description, they are more B or even C string really!) The big "major" is gone in HBP, so I guess Luna and Tonks are up for it...

On the other hand, taking this theory literally, does the implied surrival of Draco and Severus point to their redemption in any way?


Madame Pomfrey - Dec 14, 2005 5:24 am (#393 of 2974)

Where on the Lexicon can I find the Birhday list?

Phelim Mcintyre - Dec 14, 2005 5:35 am (#394 of 2974)

Very disappointed. There is a new entry page to JK Rowling's official site but no update on the site. AHHHHH!

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 14, 2005 5:38 am (#395 of 2974)

What entry page?

jose043 - Dec 14, 2005 5:40 am (#396 of 2974)

Their is a new page for getting on to her we site & it is a lot quicker than the old one.

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 14, 2005 6:00 am (#397 of 2974)

Thanks, Jose.

haymoni - Dec 14, 2005 6:28 am (#398 of 2974)

Did we have a birthdate for Sirius? or Dumbledore?

(I'm at work and while I can access World Crossing, the dementors have The Lexicon and just about every other HP site blocked!)

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 14, 2005 7:34 am (#399 of 2974)

Darned ole Dementors! I think someone earlier mentioned that there was no bithday for Sirius or Dumbledore.I can't find the place on this forum to find that info and verify it though.

bella - Dec 14, 2005 2:59 pm (#400 of 2974)

Well, there has finally been an update! Unfortunately it isn't anything fun. Language additions to the text only portions.

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Lina - Dec 14, 2005 4:20 pm (#401 of 2974)

Here's the link to the Lexicon's guide to the J. K. Rowling's Official site. You have to "filter" the birthdays manually among other information. I just like the idea of Snape surviving.

I think there is no Peter Pettigrew either... Just trying to think about more of them. There is no Lochart, but maybe she really didn't find him worth of a Happy birthday...

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 15, 2005 5:06 am (#402 of 2974)

Thanks,Lina.I was hoping someone would provide a link.

Finn BV - Dec 15, 2005 6:05 am (#403 of 2974)

Sorry Lina, sometimes the linking shows up weird in WX. I thought I was linking to azi's post but it ended up one or two before it. Oh, well, you get the idea.

Springtime - Dec 15, 2005 8:55 am (#404 of 2974)

You know I am really disappointed you would think we would get something even a card with happy holidays or best wishes for the new year. Sad something, anything would be nice than nothing at all. Sad

MickeyCee3948 - Dec 15, 2005 10:53 am (#405 of 2974)

I would like to think that she is spending her time starting on the final book rather that seeing an update right now. I can wait for updates, guess patience comes with old age. MickeyCee

haymoni - Dec 15, 2005 11:33 am (#406 of 2974)

Is her husband OK?

MickeyCee3948 - Dec 15, 2005 6:12 pm (#407 of 2974)

Sorry if I'm dregging up old news but hadn't heard anything happen to her husband. Been away for alittle while.


Chemyst - Dec 15, 2005 6:25 pm (#408 of 2974)

Mickey, the Manchester Evening News, October 26, 2005 reported...

J.K. Rowling missed the first private screening of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire to take care of her sick husband. Dr. Neil Murray, who married J.K. in 2001, was taken ill last week and is recovering at the couple's Edinburgh home after an operation for appendicitis.

It did not sound like it would have long-term complications that would unduly affect updating the site.

Grindylow - Dec 16, 2005 12:26 pm (#409 of 2974)

I am looking for Steven Fry's version of the HP books here in the states. If anyone can help, please email me @ [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. To the mods...I am sorry if this is not where this belongs! I wasn't sure where to put it!!! Smile

Amilia Smith - Dec 16, 2005 12:48 pm (#410 of 2974)

Grindylow, I ordered them from amazon.uk.co. They ship to the states.


Grindylow - Dec 16, 2005 1:07 pm (#411 of 2974)

Thanks Amilia....can you tell me how much shipping cost?

Amilia Smith - Dec 16, 2005 1:39 pm (#412 of 2974)

6.98 GBP. Aren't you glad I saved that confirmation email from Nov 2004? :-) I don't remember how that translates into USD, though . . .


Edit: Oh, yes, and this was for the yellow tin that has all 5 of the first books on CD. I didn't order them all seperately.

Grindylow - Dec 16, 2005 1:59 pm (#413 of 2974)

Great! Thanks!

haymoni - Dec 16, 2005 8:34 pm (#414 of 2974)

I tried to give her an excuse!!!

bella - Dec 19, 2005 11:37 am (#415 of 2974)

Woah, I gotta say that was weird. I was on JK's site just sort of looking around and the Christmas music started playing on the radio. I went back to the main page and the decorations are up! I haven't found anything else but hopefully something interesting will be added.

Emily - Dec 19, 2005 12:01 pm (#416 of 2974)

Yay, decorations! There's not much, but it's better than nothing. The 'Do not Disturb' door is still closed, but the hall is pretty cool. Oh! The music is 'God Rest Ye Merry Hippogriffs'!

Elanor - Dec 19, 2005 12:29 pm (#417 of 2974)

It is great indeed!

Maybe the door will open eventually for the Winter Solstice tomorrow night?

Snuffles - Dec 19, 2005 2:21 pm (#418 of 2974)

Hooray for the decorations!!

I checked about 3pm UK time and nothing!

I hope you're right Elanor. I think we had something on Winter Solstice last year

Springtime - Dec 19, 2005 6:19 pm (#419 of 2974)

I am so happy to see the decorations go up. Thank you JO. Maybe we will get a new poll question Very Happy

Finn BV - Dec 19, 2005 6:57 pm (#420 of 2974)

Yay decorations! Although I don't see the toad choir from POA film… Whoa, winter tomorrow? Thanks, Audrey, forgot!

riotgrrrl - Dec 19, 2005 8:47 pm (#421 of 2974)

Does anyone know if they are the same decorations from last year? Some look familiar and some look new, although my memory isn't quite what it used to be and maybe I just want there to be new ones. On another note, it's difficult to tell it's winter around here as on Christmas Eve and day it will be in the 60's. Might as well move to Australia and enjoy the weather!

skh - Dec 20, 2005 2:54 am (#422 of 2974)

The decorations do appear to be the same, but I couldn't swear 100%...

PS - is the solstice not the 21st?

lkb - Dec 20, 2005 6:55 am (#423 of 2974)

qquestion...when did we get the rubish bin? Was it after christmas last year? I do not remember seeing that page with the holiday presents tags and all...am I just grasping at wands here?


Springtime - Dec 20, 2005 7:35 am (#424 of 2974)

I think they are the same except the advent calendar is missing Very Happy and there seems to be more cards on the extra page.

Elanor - Dec 20, 2005 8:26 am (#425 of 2974)

skh: "is the solstice not the 21st?"

It is! I have even heard on the news that it will happen at 5 pm on the 21th here (in France) but I think that last year, when the door opened, it was on the night before the Solstice day. But I can be wrong!

Troels Forchhammer - Dec 20, 2005 9:05 am (#426 of 2974)

Solstice this year will be on 21 December at 18:35 UTC . . .

The same day, the Moon will be the furthest from the Earth in its orbit (it'll be a little before third quarter, so it'll be a bit more than half full).

Trust the physicist to have an almanac with astronomical data


Madame Pomfrey - Dec 20, 2005 9:36 am (#427 of 2974)

Well..I have tried {different} sites and am unable to see any of the Xmas decor. Maybe I'll be successful this evening.I had the same problem last year only I was able to get it through the U.K. site.Hopefully, I'll see the changes soon.

Troels Forchhammer - Dec 20, 2005 1:54 pm (#428 of 2974)

Madame Pomfrey,

I have heard of others having the same problem, and in at least some cases, the cause was the browser cache. You may have heard all this before, in which case you should just ignore everything

Your browser may be saving a copy of the page on your harddisk, and be reading that copy rather than download it again (some browsers do check the file date, but not all). If this is the case for you, it may sufficient to order the browser to reload the page (Ctrl-R in MS Internet Explorer), or, in extreme cases, deleting the cache (the temporary Internet files) (In MS IE that is ‘Tools’?‘Internet Options’?‘Delete Files’ — unfortunately I don't recall what it is in other browsers).

Hopefully this may be helpful to somebody


Madame Pomfrey - Dec 20, 2005 3:18 pm (#429 of 2974)

Thanks, Troels. I've tried that and I just get to hunt all the easter eggs again.Maybe something will come up later.It is only 4pm here in Texas.Perhaps at midnight.

Prancing Pony - Dec 20, 2005 6:58 pm (#430 of 2974)

I have been comparing last years decorations to this years. They are almost the same, but:

- Last year, it was snowing outside the window by the Room of Requirements. This year, it's not snowing, there's just snow on the ground.
- The vase of holly is the same, but it's placed a little closer to the hair tie this time.
- This year, nothing happens when you click on the Christmas tree in the mirror.
- The extra stuff bulletin board is the same except 2 new Christmas cards have replaced the Advent calendar that was up last year.
- the rubbish bin page and the others look the same.
- There wasn't any Christmas music on the radio last year.

That's all I can find. Oh, and by the way, last year the door opened on Dec. 20 (one year ago today).

Happy Holidays, to Jo and everyone!

riotgrrrl - Dec 20, 2005 9:21 pm (#431 of 2974)

Madame Pomfrey- I'm in Texas too and I've been able to see the decorations for a few days. Perhaps the cache clearing will do the trick!

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 20, 2005 10:33 pm (#432 of 2974)

Thanks Riot.I am now getting all decor except main page and Extras also no christmas music.

lkb - Dec 21, 2005 6:31 am (#433 of 2974)

I think that not haveing an advent cal. is actually a good thing! It would have been easy just to put up all of the same decorations as last year. Since they are a bit different it means that there was some thought put into the changes. And doesnt JKR approve all changes? Yea!

Also I do not expect the door to open before christmas this year if at all...there is nothing really coming out that we are looking for in the very near future. No suspence for something coming out. If it does open I expect that it will be something like drawings from previous books that she has done, or something like that. Book 7 is too important to be giving away hints! (although I would still like them he he he...)


riotgrrrl - Dec 21, 2005 7:38 am (#434 of 2974)

I agree lkb. I don't think she's had time to work enough on book 7 to give us a hint from it. I'm thankful for all of the new things we've had in the HP world in the past 6 months and I'm not betting on anything new soon (although the holiday decorations were nice).

Betelgeuse Black - Dec 21, 2005 5:26 pm (#435 of 2974)

I for one don't expect too much from JKR right now. I think she is very serious in her desire to spend a lot of time with her new child. As much as I'd love to see updates, etc... I just don't expect it.

The decorations are nice and it's very nice to see something new.


Esther Rose - Dec 22, 2005 9:39 am (#436 of 2974)

Eh! The kid is almost a year old. Bring on the up dates!

(just kidding) =)

Weeny Owl - Dec 23, 2005 10:22 am (#437 of 2974)

When she does update, I would like to see some questions answered that have nothing to do with the plot such as in CoS... at the end of the year Dumbledore canceled exams, which I'm sure please Colin Creevey and maybe Justin Finch-Fletchley even if Hermione wasn't pleased, but what did the fifth-year and seventh-year students do about O.W.L.s and N.E.W.Ts? Did Dumbledore's cancellation affect only students not taking those exams? Did they take them during the summer?

There are quite a few questions she could answer that wouldn't give away anything going on in the last book. Of course she doesn't have to answer them, and she certainly doesn't have to update her site. Her even having one is very gracious, so I'm not complaining about no updates, really. Just thinking of things I'd like to ask her that she could actually answer.

Gina R Snape - Dec 24, 2005 5:17 pm (#438 of 2974)

Hey, everyone. There is a little wrapped Christmas present on the front page of the website! Go and open it.

Amilia Smith - Dec 24, 2005 6:42 pm (#439 of 2974)

Oh, wow. That is a great present! Does this mean we get (mostly) daily updates from now on????


Eponine - Dec 24, 2005 7:13 pm (#440 of 2974)

More updates! Rumors and the rubbish bin and a new poll!!

Finn BV - Dec 24, 2005 7:19 pm (#441 of 2974)

YAY!!!!! Thanks, Jo!

I voted for the first question (about the Secret-Keeper), which is just slightly in the lead over the second. The third question is a distant third (45, 42, 13% in that order).

Madame Pomfrey - Dec 24, 2005 11:54 pm (#442 of 2974)

Wonderful Christmas present,Jo! Merry Christmas to you and your's and also to my fellow readers!

Sticky Glue - Dec 25, 2005 3:22 am (#443 of 2974)

Merry xmas everyone,

just went onto JKR's site before I came in here. Great xmas present and I found it a realy hard choice between the 1st and 2nd poll questions.

Medulla - Dec 25, 2005 3:26 am (#444 of 2974)

Merry Christmas to each of you! I love the idea of Jo putting her thoughts in a diary for all of us to read- what a wonderful concept! yay for us! I voted for the 1st question because it is a question so simple that I hadn't even thought to ask it. I cant wait to see what surprizes Jo has in store for next year.

Troels Forchhammer - Dec 25, 2005 4:44 am (#445 of 2974)

I'm a bit surprised at the update in the Rubbish Bin — I mean, the whole idea was so ‘out there’ that nobody took it seriously. I don't think it ever hit the news other than in Norway (where it didn't get all that much attention anyway) and among Rowling fan . . .

Then there are also the fans who insist that HBP is written by one or more ghostwriters based on a plot-line sketch by Jo Rowling

Of course it is no use to address this on her web-site — it is not going to convince those who have seen the light of darkness anyway

I was thrilled about the new debunkings in the rumours section, though. Not that there were any surprises, but it's nice to get it from the horse's own mouth

And a happy Yule-time to everybody, including, of course, Jo Rowling!


Gina R Snape - Dec 25, 2005 8:40 am (#446 of 2974)

I voted for the first choice, but it was close with the second one. I really hope the third question doesn't win.

Springtime - Dec 25, 2005 9:40 am (#447 of 2974)

Thank you so much JO. Hope you have a great Holiday Season Very Happy

septentrion - Dec 25, 2005 11:27 am (#448 of 2974)

Oh I'm swooning ! An update ! Thank you Jo ! I voted for the 1st question too (about the secret-keeper). Happy Christmas to you all !

Phelim Mcintyre - Dec 25, 2005 12:25 pm (#449 of 2974)

Sorry to buck the trend guys, but I voted for question 2. But whatevere answer we get will be important as all the questions are covered by the dark mark.

Lina - Dec 25, 2005 2:19 pm (#450 of 2974)

It was really a wonderful Christmas present! I was thinking that it would be time for the opening text to change.

While about the questions, I would really like to see the answers to the both first questions...

Peace on Earth and joy to Jo and her family!

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Little Ginny - Dec 25, 2005 3:18 pm (#451 of 2974)

Merry Christmas to you all!

Did you see that in the FAQ section she answered a question about the school song, saying that if we see Dumbledore conducting the choir again (paraphrasing), we'll know that he's in a happy mood? So, does that mean he'll be back, or am I just hoping desperately?

Anyway, thanks for the updates, Jo!

(Incidentally, I voted for the second question.)

Gina R Snape - Dec 25, 2005 3:20 pm (#452 of 2974)

Awww, Little Ginny. I wouldn't count on that. She posted that answer awhile ago, before we know of Dumbledore's little visit to the tower.

Catherine - Dec 25, 2005 4:24 pm (#453 of 2974)

Yay! I love updates! Many thanks to you, Jo! Happy Christmas to you and your family.

I voted for the first question; it seemed like the answer might yield more interesting results than the other two.

Not to be an insufferable know-it-all, but I said all along that Petunia had no magical ability, and was thoroughly Muggle. I was very pleased to see her confirm that my interpretation was correct.

Hopefully we'll have another update before too long...(hint, hint).....

TwinklingBlueEyes - Dec 25, 2005 7:10 pm (#454 of 2974)

"Not to be an insufferable know-it-all, but..." Is this a new club? Where do we join?

Actually JKR answered, kinda like Dumbledore, yes and no... a little, yet a lot...

...toddles off loving updates...

If there is such a thing as Peace on Earth I wish the best of it to my forum family.

Elanor - Dec 26, 2005 12:38 am (#455 of 2974)

Thank you so much Jo!

On Christmas morning, I couldn't help but check Jo's site and the forum (just after decorating the Yule Logs and before finishing to prepare the turkey's filling ) and to see that present on her desk really made me think as if Father Christmas had come again. What a wonderful surprised gift he had for us again this year! The "quintessential" present for a HP fan, isn't it? (loved that word!)

Merry Christmas to all again!


PS: I voted for question 2.

septentrion - Dec 26, 2005 4:00 am (#456 of 2974)

LOL I noticed the word "quintessential" too.

Phelim Mcintyre - Dec 26, 2005 5:13 am (#457 of 2974)

I wonder what would happen if two questions had an equal percentage of votes, if there was a draw in the frequently asked questions pole? Would we get two answers?

Thora - Dec 26, 2005 7:39 am (#458 of 2974)

Thank you so much Jo! It's more than we could have hoped for.

Thora (also intensely curious about horcruxes)

Troels Forchhammer - Dec 26, 2005 8:09 am (#459 of 2974)

Phelim, first of all Ithink it is extremely unlikely that there will ever be exactly the same amount of votes for two question, even if they should amount to the same rounded percentage, the number of voting fans is simply too large for that to be likely.

But there is, of course, a non-zero probability for it, and if it should happen JKR would probably make a choice depending on the exact circumstances. Note that since she is under no obligation to stop the poll at any given time, she could also simply elect to let it run a little longer until there is an actual winner


Gina R Snape - Dec 26, 2005 8:50 am (#460 of 2974)

It's almost a shame we don't see the absolute number of votes. I would find it interesting to know roughly how many people have voted via all the sites around the world (I say roughly because we know some people will go to multiple computers to vote again).

My hunch is she will wait until the voting has levelled off, or until she feels like answering it. I have a feeling it will be a close call between questions one and two.

Mrs Brisbee - Dec 26, 2005 9:11 am (#461 of 2974)

I voted for question one simply because it might not be covered in any detail in book 7. I figured we'll see enough Horcrux destruction by the end that we'll have a good idea how it works without Rowling having to cover it on her website.

azi - Dec 26, 2005 10:33 am (#462 of 2974)

I voted for the first question, purely because I'm not that interested in Horcruxes for some reason.

Am very happy with update!

Hope JKR had a great Christmas too!

Ydnam96 - Dec 26, 2005 10:50 am (#463 of 2974)

You know, this is sad but I'm not sure which one I voted for. I went back and forth between 1 and 2. I must have been very tired at the time. I will be happy with either answer though. I have a feeling that both will be answered in book seven though. DD was secret keeper for #12 so I think we'll see what happens with that. And we'll have to figure out the horcrux thing since that is what Harry will be doing...

Yay for updates

Catherine - Dec 26, 2005 1:55 pm (#464 of 2974)

"Not to be an insufferable know-it-all, but..." Is this a new club? Where do we join? --TBE

Oh, anyone on the Forum has a ready-made membership should they wish to have one.

I'm hopeful that we will have more "frequent" FAQ updates in the coming year, as JKR begins writing #7 in earnest. Not that I'm complaining, mind.

Gina R Snape - Dec 26, 2005 2:03 pm (#465 of 2974)

I think most of us would qualify as insufferable know-it-alls around here!

And I agree, when JKR returns to the wizarding world in earnest, we can likely expect more activity on the website.

azi - Dec 26, 2005 4:20 pm (#466 of 2974)

It's seems like JKR is returning to the wizarding world in earnest as well! I thought the updates were very lively, or maybe we haven't heard anything for so long her new writing is like a breath of fresh air compared to the old stuff we've read so many times? Always good, anyway!

It was nice to have some theories debunked. There are so many out there that dropping a couple will make no difference to our chatter about them. Plus, as book 7 comes closer, we'll probably have more clues and so there will be even more theories out there! We need to get rid of some!

Viola Intonada - Dec 26, 2005 7:22 pm (#467 of 2974)

I enjoyed the updates as well. I loved the questions she answered!

I have to say I voted for number 2. It intrigues me even more that she chose that as one of her questions. Makes me wonder if one of my theories is correct?!?!?!

I hope everyone, especially JKR, had a wonderful Christmas!

Ponine - Dec 26, 2005 9:32 pm (#468 of 2974)

On behalf of my country and country(wo)men, I apologize for the proposterous suggestion that Jo isn't real. Trust me, we are all quite embarrassed about that one, and I would much prefer to claim Norbert than this, this -- Skeeterish woman who shamelessly used Jo's fame to create some drama and attention for herself.... God Jul og Godt Nyttår to each and every one of you!! And thank you for the update, Jo! I voted for number one, but was torn between one and two as well. I am not sure why, but I have a nagging feeling that the first one is important to what we know somehow... :pondering:

bella - Dec 27, 2005 12:42 am (#469 of 2974)

Happy Holidays Everyone! Lovely to see the updates. At first I couldn't decide which faq to choose, but settled on the first one. However, I'm pretty sure it's going to be answers leading to more questions regardless of what gets the most votes (always fun). I also loved the rumour squashing.

LooneyLuna - Dec 27, 2005 7:48 am (#470 of 2974)

Happy Holidays! Thank you, Jo. Loved the updates and so glad to hear you'll be writing again in January. Yippeeee!

I voted for #2. I'm curious about the secret keeper thing, but I'm more curious about the horcrux thing.

Lina - Dec 27, 2005 8:55 am (#471 of 2974)

Oh, yes, Bella, I think you are quite right! Can't wait for the questions that will arise from the answers!

Madam Pince - Dec 27, 2005 9:15 am (#472 of 2974)

How fun to have updates! Wow, she really smashed a lot of theories, didn't she? Those were good to know.

I voted for the FAQ question about secret-keepers. I'm like azi, for some reason Horcruxes just don't grab me.

haymoni - Dec 27, 2005 9:24 am (#473 of 2974)

I noticed that she did nothing to debunk the "Irma Pince - I'm a Prince" theory!


Gina R Snape - Dec 27, 2005 9:36 am (#474 of 2974)

Maybe she doesn't know about that theory!

Hogs Head - Dec 27, 2005 9:36 am (#475 of 2974)

I voted for number one, too, because knowing the secret keeper answer now might help with retrospective interpretation of Books 1 through 6. I agree with the prior post that horcrux destruction issues will by necessity be more fully covered in Book 7.

No one needs to apologize for a whole country about a silly rumor, even one that has J. K. Rowling as a think-tank composite. People start rumors, not countries.

After all, I think it was a graduate student proposing a whacky (but interesting) thesis to the effect that Paul McCartney was dead and that Beatle lyricks, album covers, etc. were littered with secret clues? Hope I'm not the only one old enough to remember that! If I'm not totally daffy, the graduate student who came up with this was in the U.S., but I never felt the need to apologize for the Paul is Dead craze -- I just enjoyed it and played my records (remember what those were?) backwards like everyone else.

KTO - Dec 27, 2005 11:25 am (#476 of 2974)

Jo has an amazing generosity of spirit

Sadie - Dec 27, 2005 1:03 pm (#477 of 2974)

Oh Hogs Head! It's nice to know I'm not the only oldie here. I so remember Paul being dead, although I was not in college yet!

I voted for question 2 but it was a tough choice between that and #1. I am just so pleased to have an update that anything makes me happy.

Thanks Jo, and I thought HBP was so amazing, so moving, so strong, that I haven't been able to read it a second time yet! Which is very untypical of me. Thanks for the Christmas present.

timrew - Dec 27, 2005 3:54 pm (#478 of 2974)

I remember the 'Paul Is Dead' theories, Hogs Head. I also wrote an essay on how Paul had been dying since The Beatles Hamburg days, because he liked it! It was a spoof, btw.

Aurora Gubbins - Dec 28, 2005 5:26 am (#479 of 2974)

As the questions are all hidden by the Dark Mark, are we allowed to discuss the content at length here?

Hope everyone had a happy time this Christmas - I got a Lumos booklight so I can read late into the night without keeping the Husband awake!


Gina R Snape - Dec 28, 2005 8:12 am (#480 of 2974)

Aurora, I don't believe there should be a problem discussing that here. Kip lifted the ban on spoilers quite a few months ago.

Grindylow - Dec 28, 2005 1:30 pm (#481 of 2974)

I voted for question #2. I think either answer will be a good one and I agree that it will lead to more questions! Thanks so much, Jo, for the updates! That was a WONDERFUL Christmas present!!!!

Soul Search - Dec 29, 2005 2:02 pm (#482 of 2974)

So, what are these questions? I haven't been able to get past the first page of JKR's site for a while.

Lina - Dec 29, 2005 2:34 pm (#483 of 2974)

Soul Search, you can find all the info on updates here. It's the link that Lexicon provides too.

Soul Search - Dec 30, 2005 4:58 pm (#484 of 2974)

Thanks Lina. I would like to learn more about horcruxes. Please vote for that one.

I don't think a secret keeper dying can have a serious role in book seven.

Isn't #3 already answered in canon? Didn't Dumbledore, in HBP, explain to Harry why Voldemort wanted the stone? Maybe there is more to it, which could be interesting.

Hollywand - Dec 30, 2005 6:37 pm (#485 of 2974)

Turning the Philosopher's Stone into a horcrux, now there's something to ponder.....

haymoni - Dec 30, 2005 6:51 pm (#486 of 2974)

We've touched on that subject when talking about a Horcrux being hidden at Hogwarts. If there was a Horcrux at Hogwarts, why did Voldy waste time with the Stone?

I think her answer would have to be what we have already considered - Voldy needed a body - he needed the Elixir of Life to be strong enough to get a body.

Aqualu Nifey - Dec 31, 2005 3:01 pm (#487 of 2974)

I voted on the second one, too, though I'm sure we're going to find out the answer very early on in VII, if Harry's found out by then, of course. I don't think she's going to tell us anything that she hasn't even told Harry, yet.

Sadie - Dec 31, 2005 3:17 pm (#488 of 2974)

Today is the Dark Lord's birhday I believe

Troels Forchhammer - Dec 31, 2005 5:36 pm (#489 of 2974)

You're right, Sadie, but we don't want to wish him a happy one, do we

Fortunately that is already over in Europe

have a magical new year!


Tazzygirl - Dec 31, 2005 11:30 pm (#490 of 2974)


What is this voting thing? Is it on the Leaky main page, or on JKR's site? I would like to give my input (I think I might be late now, who knows...)

Happy New Year! ~Kristina

Stephanie M. - Dec 31, 2005 11:48 pm (#491 of 2974)

It's on JKR's site, Tazzy. It's under the F.A.Q.s. Then click under F.A.Q. Polls

Madame Pomfrey - Jan 1, 2006 7:46 am (#492 of 2974)

Hey,new wizard of the month looks a bit like Jo.Her name is even Jocunda.

Maud Merryweather - Jan 1, 2006 1:50 pm (#493 of 2974)

I have a question: can a Horcrux give one a body as well ?

From what Dumbledore says in HBP the Philosopher’s Stone obviously can provide one with both immortality if drunk regularly and with a body, while a Horcrux simply stores a fragment of soul. When the curse rebounded and Voldemort was mere vapour, or however he says it, he still had a soul left in him, didn’t he ? What he needed was a body, so he possessed Quirrel until he could get his hands on the Stone. How would one of his Horcruxes have helped ?

What do you think ?

Hogs Head - Jan 1, 2006 4:58 pm (#494 of 2974)

Maud, you should probably go to the Horcrux thread, where this has been discussed in great detail from many diverse points of view. However, I think the issues you are touching on is why many are favoring FAQ question no. 1 over nos. 2 and 3.

Tazzygirl - Jan 1, 2006 8:37 pm (#495 of 2974)

Thanks Stephanie!

Well then, I voted for the first question!

Maud Merryweather - Jan 2, 2006 9:50 am (#496 of 2974)

Thanks for the advice, Hogs Head. I'll try my luck on the Horcrux thread.

I'm guessing you voted for the first question ? I went for the last one and I get the feeling I made I mistake and waisted a vote. Oh, well, that's that... :-)

Snuffles - Jan 5, 2006 8:17 am (#497 of 2974)

Just to say Jo has updated her diary on her website again!

Gina R Snape - Jan 5, 2006 8:39 am (#498 of 2974)


:runs to website:

Springtime - Jan 5, 2006 8:39 am (#499 of 2974)

Thanks Snuffles (heads over to jk site)

Esther Rose - Jan 5, 2006 11:35 am (#500 of 2974)

I voted for question #1 because I want to know if #12 Grimmauld Place is still safe for Harry to go to incase he needs to retrieve a certain locket or if he needs to send Kretcher to get it for him. Knowing how to destroy a Horcrux is interesting too though.

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Hogs Head - Jan 5, 2006 6:21 pm (#501 of 2974)

Maud -- it isn't like I haven't wasted a vote or two along the way, myself. I suppose my first real vote ever -- for Richard Milhous Nixon -- was wasted in many senses, but somehow I still can't see voting for his opponent, George McGovern. Hard to find anyone now who will admit to having voted for Nixon, despite his landslide.

I suspect question no. 1 will win, but I admit question no. 3 also has my interest. I just think we'll learn all about destroying horcruxes in Book 7, and that DD has perhaps left behind some helpful information on How To . . . that we'll get to see or hear at some point.

The giant squid - Jan 6, 2006 5:32 am (#502 of 2974)

A very nice diary entry...I can definitely relate to #2.

As to the poll, I voted for #1. Like many of you I feel that we'll learn all we need to know about horcruxes & their destruction in book 7. The secret keeper thing may or may not come up, and may or may not be answered, so I'd like to give her the chance to explain it somewhere.


Hogs Head - Jan 6, 2006 7:05 pm (#503 of 2974)

but I admit question no. 3 also has my interest

Mistype. I meant "question no. 2 also has my interest." Apologies to question no. 3 for getting its hopes up. Sorry.

Ann - Jan 6, 2006 8:17 pm (#504 of 2974)

I loved the diary entries too, especially since it sounds like she's going to be seriously writing now. (And wouldn't you like a glimpse of that notebook?)

I checked to see if there was anything else new, and buried amongst the "About me" questions in the FAQ I noticed a question I hadn't seen before about how she keeps track of things from book to book (answer: she doesn't always). There were also a few others, widely spaced, that seemed unfamiliar. I might easily be wrong about all of them, but does anyone agree?

Aurora Gubbins - Jan 7, 2006 4:30 pm (#505 of 2974)

Jo: If you're looking in - I'll gladly come over and, erm, tidy up for you...

ginnyrules - Jan 8, 2006 5:11 pm (#506 of 2974)

I also voted for RMN - and therefore didn't waste my vote here! I really liked her diary entry - my study also needs "mucking out" haha. Wonder how she and I will fare on that this year? Ginnyrules!

Diagon Nilly - Jan 8, 2006 5:21 pm (#507 of 2974)
Edited by Jan 8, 2006 4:22 pm

Happy Birthday Professor Emeritus Severus Snape!

In honor of you:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

"For he's a jolly good fellow. For he's a jolly good fellow. For he's a jolly good feeeelloooooooow. Which nobody can deny (except maybe Dumbledoooooooore)"

Gina R Snape - Jan 8, 2006 6:02 pm (#508 of 2974)

Professor Emeritus. LOLOL

Happy birthday, my beloved Severus Snape!

Diagon Nilly, can I snag that lovely shot with the birthday cake for my livejournal?

TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 8, 2006 6:26 pm (#509 of 2974)

OMG!, I read last few posts and had to check date! Happy Birthday Severus and Buddy! Severus is how old? Buddy's 54.

...toddles off scrambling for birthday plans...

Diagon Nilly - Jan 8, 2006 6:41 pm (#510 of 2974)

Severus is 46... in 2006 that is.

Gina, please I'd be honored!

TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 8, 2006 7:12 pm (#511 of 2974)

Last reality check I did, this is 2006. Thank you for confirming.

Diagon Nilly - Jan 8, 2006 7:27 pm (#512 of 2974)
Edited by Jan 8, 2006 6:29 pm

Heheh, I meant vs. the year the last book was set in... what was it...'96? '97? Severus was around 37 during HBP. That's what I meant. It's that weird time warp thingie. Smile

wynnleaf - Jan 8, 2006 7:54 pm (#513 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Severus! Hope your birthday on JKR's site is a bit of evidence that you survive Book 7, since most people seem to think you're Dooomed.

TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 8, 2006 8:00 pm (#514 of 2974)

"that weird time warp thingie." No problem, I'm beginning to like the time-warped thingy...

JKR uses all the tools at her disposal, I await her next move...

Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 9, 2006 2:15 am (#515 of 2974)

"It's just a jump to the left.... and then a step to the right"

Sorry, couldn't resist. Professor Emeritus? Hmmmm! Emeritus - "honourably discharged from service; retired and holding honorary title". Was Professor Emeritus acutally on JKR's webpage? If so this will add a lot of fuel to the pro-Snape lobby's fire.

Oh yes the definition of Emeritus is from the oncise Oxford Dictionary.

septentrion - Jan 9, 2006 2:17 am (#516 of 2974)

Happy birthday Severus ! That's a very good omen to see his birthday on Jo's website. She never celebrates the bad guys' birthdays (never a "happy birthday bellatrix") or the dead people's birthday (never a "happy birthday DD"). I'm relieved !

Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 9, 2006 2:21 am (#517 of 2974)

Ah Emeritus is only what those poor misguided pro-Snape people have added. So no hint there. Good. Bt as to Snape having his birthday posted, didn't Draco. So again no clues given.

Midori - Jan 9, 2006 2:53 am (#518 of 2974)

Happy B'Day, professor, sir! Now I truly believe that "mum" JKR doesnt have cruel intentions to kill you and you will be alive at the end of 7)) Phelim Mcintyre, Rowling did congratulate Draco, on 5 th of june.

Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 9, 2006 6:03 am (#519 of 2974)

Sorry, there should have been a question mark after Draco (so it should have read "But as to Snape having his birthday posted, didn't Draco?". In other words as Draco had his birthday announced like Snape has we can infer whether Snape will still be alive or turn out to be a good guy.

Lina - Jan 9, 2006 6:13 am (#520 of 2974)

Well, I really think that the birthdays on the site show who is about to survive. But it doesn't really mean that those are only the good guys. I would really like Snape to end on the right side, I would like to see Draco ending the same way, but I think that we can only assume that they are going to survive. Sorry. For all those good characters who didn't get the "Happy birthday" card, we can still hope that they are not so important, so they would survive but without a card...

Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 9, 2006 6:23 am (#521 of 2974)

Did Snape's birthday appear last year? If so to stop showing a Birthday card would be a big clue. We don't know if Harry will survive but to stop showing his birthday card would give us the idea that he doesn't. Because of this I don't believe that Birthday cards are a reliable clue as to who survives.

Question - when did Dumbledore's last appear? If it has appeared since HbP or appears in the future this will prove my point. If not then I will dig out the crow pie recepie.

Lina - Jan 9, 2006 6:57 am (#522 of 2974)

Phelim, the problem is that DD's card never appeared. That is the reason why I, and some other members, came to the conclusion that she decided from the very beginning of her site that she will show only those birthdays of people who are about to survive the end of the series.

Springtime - Jan 9, 2006 8:06 am (#523 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Snape

azi - Jan 9, 2006 8:25 am (#524 of 2974)

Sirius never appeared either. Tonks has yet to appear - which doesn't bode well in my eyes.

I would wish Snape happy birthday but I'm finding it difficult. Very difficult.

Esther Rose - Jan 9, 2006 8:26 am (#525 of 2974)

I don't know after turning 150 years old would you remember your own birthday. Would you remember to tell anyone it's your birthday. Would anyone know when it is your birthday.

Kind of off topic but intriguing question. If you were a phoenix animagus and could resurrect yourself as a phoenix, how many birthdays would you have? Perhaps this could be answered under the Animagus posts.

Valfunde - Jan 9, 2006 11:04 am (#526 of 2974)

Happy Birthday to you, Professor Snape, Sir. I want to give you the respect you desire, but am finding it difficult since it looks like you killed our beloved DD! I hold out hope that there are circumstances and plot turns that we will find out in Book 7 that will clear your name and show you to be on the "right" side. If JKR can wish you a happy birthday, then so can I.

Diagon Nilly - Jan 9, 2006 11:33 am (#527 of 2974)
Edited by Jan 9, 2006 10:33 am

Ah, "Professor Emeritus" is my own addition - sorry for the confusion. I liked the flow of it better than "Ex-Professor". Teehee. Besides, Snape is so full of self-appreciation, I can see someone like him bestowing himself that title.

Gina, I also have a good one of Snape in bed with the flu (Which I made while I was stuck home with the flu, appropriately). It's yours if you want it - it's very silly.

Madam Pince - Jan 9, 2006 12:09 pm (#528 of 2974)

Oooo, I have such a good comment about that last line of Diagon Nilly's and Gina, but I'll leave it alone....

I think it's a very scary thought that JKR could potentially lose one of her notebooks, and that even she herself is afraid that she might forget some important point about the last book if that should happen! Thank goodness she found it! But I echo the sentiment that I'd be glad to help her straighten up -- tee-hee!

Happy Birthday, Severus! (For the record, I think the birthday wishes show people who are going to both survive, and will end up on the "good" side, but that's just me...)

haymoni - Jan 9, 2006 12:12 pm (#529 of 2974)

I don't know how the woman does it. She should go work as a spy after all this is done. She hasn't cracked one time in all the years that she has been writing these books. Amazing!

zelmia - Jan 9, 2006 12:25 pm (#530 of 2974)

Well, as a supporter of the "birthdays show who'll survive" theory, I'm just happy that it appears that all of the Weasleys will be alright. We didn't have Dumbledore or Sirius and we know what happened to them.
We also don't appear to have been given the birthdays of any of the supporting characters like Tonks, Luna, Dean Thomas, Seamus Finnegan, the Patil Twins, Madames Hooch or Pompfrey, etc. Why not? She's given us Sprout and Flitwick, and both of them barely appear throughout the entire saga. One would think that Harry's friends and dorm mates Dean and Seamus might get a birthday mention. Ah well...

Gina R Snape - Jan 9, 2006 3:04 pm (#531 of 2974)

I'm definitely hopeful of Snape's survival with his birthday card appearing two years in a row. I know quite a few people in the fandom who are celebrating Snape's birthday in their own ways. My friend Ajna and I plan to blow out a candle on a cupcake in his honour later tonight!

Diagon Nilly, I'd love to see that picture of Snape in bed, with the flu. I wonder if he keeps Pepper Up potion handy, or if you cannot brew it when you are ill.

Diagon Nilly - Jan 9, 2006 4:14 pm (#532 of 2974)
Edited by Jan 9, 2006 3:16 pm

No one should look this P.O.d on their birthday.

:::blows noisemaker:::

Madam Pince - Jan 9, 2006 4:16 pm (#533 of 2974)

***Is rolling around laughing at Diagon Nilly's picture***

zelmia - Jan 9, 2006 7:59 pm (#534 of 2974)

Nice one!

TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 9, 2006 10:26 pm (#535 of 2974)

New JKR interview

The giant squid - Jan 10, 2006 1:11 am (#536 of 2974)

Interesting...I hope that's just a snippet and someone will post the whole thing soon. Otherwise it was a waste of time even printing it. I'm sure it would be a major fight to get any kind of interview these days, so to only get two quick responses would be kinda sad.

Also, I have to admit to a bit of confusion before I remembered the way the rest of the world writes dates...I was trying to figure out how they had an interview from October 1 2006 (10/01/06). Silly American...


Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 10, 2006 5:13 am (#537 of 2974)

Zelmia - thanks for showing the minor characters who's birthdays appear. It helps my arguement that birthdays on J K Rowlings website don't mean much even though Dumbledore never appeared.

Even if the birthday card shows that Snape survies it doesn't show that he's a good guy. But as to whether Snape survives (or Harry and anyone else who's birthdays have been shown) we'll have to wait for the next book.

Madame Pomfrey - Jan 10, 2006 5:59 am (#538 of 2974)

Well,since I'm in the Dumbledore is not dead camp I think maybe he might be a leap year baby.The last leap year was feb 29,04 which was before Jo introduced her site the next will be in 2008.Also,I don't see repeating Birthday's as a sign that particular character will live especially when all of them have survived HBP.Removing a surviving character now would be a "dead" give away on who won't survive book 7.

skh - Jan 10, 2006 6:34 am (#539 of 2974)

I suppose the point is that if Jo already knew the plot outline from the beginning, then she (more or less) knew who'd survive so when she started the site she gave a list of names of people who could have birthdays and suplied the dates, but didn't give a list of non-survivors.

I'm in both camps on this one, really - I think there's a danger of reading too much into things and that's maybe what we are at with the birthdays but on the other hand, we know that Jo is a sneaky swine and this is just the kind of clue she would cook up!

I was more of a non-believer on this one before HBP actually, as I didn't see how all the Weasleys could survive. After the events of the last book and what happened to poor Bill, I think we can safely say that the Weasley family have NOT come out of this unscathed, but that they could all survive... Makes me believe more in the Birthday thing.

In regard to the individuals though - I'd have thought we should've seen birthdays for Luna and Tonks, as they seem more important than Seamus or Dean - but why have we seen birthdays for some of the profs and not all?

Am going around in a circle now...

Netherlandic - Jan 10, 2006 2:20 pm (#540 of 2974)

I am a little late but: happy birthday Severus. May you soon be done with the nasty job of having to help Harry (or the dark lord).

Thanks for the picture. I really loved it. Snape looking grim over his birthday candles.

bella - Jan 10, 2006 5:14 pm (#541 of 2974)

The interview from which the quotes posted above were taken is up on mugglenet. I don't know how to post a link, so hopefully you can all find your way over there.

Diagon Nilly - Jan 10, 2006 5:19 pm (#542 of 2974)

Hey bella, I posted it on the "Who Will Die in Book 6/7" thread, along with a question pertaining to the one juicy bit of Harry Potter info in the article.

Amilia Smith - Jan 10, 2006 11:03 pm (#543 of 2974)

She says in the interview (which, btw, is on scans 3,5, and 7 . . . the rest is just pictures) that she once caused Bloomsbury's stock to fall by changing a word on her website. What word do you think that was?


Ann - Jan 10, 2006 11:55 pm (#544 of 2974)

Thanks for the numbers Amilia, it made it much quicker to read.

As for all the discussion of the omission of Dumbledore's birthday on the site, well, it's March 1st--because Dumbledore was Ron. If she'd put Dumbledore's birthday up and it was the same as Ron's, we (by which I mean we inveterate Dumbledore is Ron theorists) would all know we were right. (Hmmm. Off to check books to see if there is any evidence for birthday-like activity of Dumbledore on March 1st.)

skh - Jan 11, 2006 3:35 am (#545 of 2974)

Amilia - thanks, that helped!

Also, in regard to the word on her website, how about the answer to a rumour this time last year (18th Feb 2004) when she said there'd be no prequels? That sounds like the kind of thing to alarm share holders maybe?

(hehe - just had a very funny image of some banking analyst type, sitting at his desk on Wall Street or the City, monitoring the JKR website for changes in case it affects the Bloomsbury share price, hehe!)

skh - Jan 11, 2006 4:12 am (#546 of 2974)

Oops - too late for an edit, but yes, I do realise that 2004 was slightly longer ago than "this time last year"... obviously I'm not at all used to it being 2006 yet! Denial, perhaps?!


zelmia - Jan 11, 2006 1:20 pm (#547 of 2974)

Ann, I'm pretty sure she quashed that DD=Ron rumour personally on her web site. But then I don't have total recall so...

Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 12, 2006 2:07 am (#548 of 2974)

Zelima - I think you are right. But that umbledore is not either Ron or Harry from the future. This of course does not rule out a young Dumbledore coming into the future and being Ron does it?

Edit - this information is on the latest rumours page, just click on the Daily Prophet (or is it Quibler) on the left.

Madame Pomfrey - Jan 12, 2006 3:08 pm (#549 of 2974)

Well,I'm here to wish Snape a belated Birthday.Maybe now I'll quit dreaming about him. *YUCK*

Ann - Jan 12, 2006 4:32 pm (#550 of 2974)

Zelmia and Phelim, she very carefully said "from the future" several times in that rebuttal. But the 'Dumbledore is Ron' theory is that Ron will very soon be thrown back 150 years into the past and then become Dumbledore. (We already knew from OotP that Madam Marchbanks supervised his N.E.W.T.s and from PS/SS that he defeated Grindlewald, so he clearly has a past and can't have just been someone popping back from the future anyway.) And there's the wristwatch Ron gets for his birthday in HBP... I wouldn't put it past JKR to use her website to derail theories that she doesn't want floating about.

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Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 13, 2006 2:22 am (#551 of 2974)

Ann - thanks, worded myself badly. I meant to say that there was nothing to stop Ron being a young Dumbledore from the past coming into what would have been for him the future. This would sort of tie in with the DD is Ron theory.

I have a friend who is a doctor of philosophy - quite literally she took he doctorate in the philosophy of time travel. She is also a Harry Potter fan, an author of babylon 5 fan fiction and had a minor role in advising on B5 scripts that involved time travel. Should I run this theory past her or not?

haymoni - Jan 13, 2006 6:31 am (#552 of 2974)

Phelim - there was a thread on Time Travel. You might want to go through it and pull out the main topics for her to review.

Good Evans - Jan 14, 2006 7:23 am (#553 of 2974)

can I just ask - have we ever had happy birthday Fred and George? or Ginny for that?????

Chemyst - Jan 14, 2006 8:58 am (#554 of 2974)

From the Lexicon's guide to the JKRowling site, on the calendar of updates, there is:

Ginny – listed August 11 in 2004 and 2005.
Fred and George – listed April 1 of 2005.

Good Evans - Jan 14, 2006 9:01 am (#555 of 2974)

Thanks Chemyst, I couldnt remember but now you say 1st April, that brings back the memory

haymoni - Jan 14, 2006 7:53 pm (#556 of 2974)

I remembered Ginny being a Leo, but I did forget that Fred & George were born on April Fool's Day - priceless!!!

Melly - Jan 15, 2006 9:13 pm (#557 of 2974)

Does anyone know how long JKR usually takes to answer the FAQ? I'm checking every day and I can't wait!

Amilia Smith - Jan 15, 2006 11:37 pm (#558 of 2974)

I know what you mean, Melly, but don't hold your breath. According to the Lex . . .

The first poll opened 15 May 2004 and was answered 5 July 2004. [~1.5 months]

Second poll opened 19 July 2004; answered 4 October 2004. [~2.5 months]

Third poll opened 10 December 2004; answered 16 May 2005. [~5 months]

Fourth poll opened 31 May 2005; answered 15 July 2005. [~1.5 months]

Fifth poll opened 25 December 2005.

So . . . there doesn't seem to be any sort of pattern to it, but I would be surprised if we got an answer to the Poll Question before mid-February. This does not mean that it is a bad thing to keep checking. You can be the first one to post here and let the rest of us know about any and all updates. ;-)


Melly - Jan 16, 2006 2:17 am (#559 of 2974)

Hey thanks Amelia. Lets hope its not 5 months this time!

Delightful Task! - Jan 16, 2006 6:29 am (#560 of 2974)

I was hoping that we could have an update once a month... (because of the diary!) But I always try to remember that if I want to read book seven before 2016, I have to let JKR work a bit!

lkb - Jan 16, 2006 7:26 am (#561 of 2974)

Alright lets see if I am the only one that is seeing this...on the Eatra's page the eraser does not move anymore. Also when you go to that page you hear a ding sound. It is wierd. I tried it again by going to the main page and going back...still the ding...

Anyone else getting this? Okay...previous objects are not moving...even in the trophy room, and there is that ding again!

What is going on?


Snuffles - Jan 16, 2006 7:41 am (#562 of 2974)

Sorry Lkb, everything seem to be working on my screen. I hear the usual noises when I click on the extras page and the eraser still moves. Everything seems fine.

skh - Jan 16, 2006 9:58 am (#563 of 2974)

Sorry Lkb, I have to confirm Snuffles, all fine on my screen.

TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 16, 2006 10:55 am (#564 of 2974)

LKB, it was doing that with me when I'd hit the Enter Accessibility enabled version (center button). Since I have started clicking on the flag at along the bottom, all is back to normal

Netherlandic - Jan 16, 2006 12:17 pm (#565 of 2974)

Everything working fine for me...

Snuffles - Jan 23, 2006 8:18 am (#566 of 2974)

Just wanted to say Happy Birthday, to JKR's baby Mackenzie, one year old today!.

Have a great day.

Madam Pince - Jan 23, 2006 8:41 am (#567 of 2974)

Awwwwww! Happy Birthday, Mackenzie! Enjoy digging around in your cake!

Finn BV - Jan 23, 2006 4:21 pm (#568 of 2974)

Yay Mackenzie! One is a very special number.

Tazzygirl - Jan 23, 2006 7:32 pm (#569 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Mackenzie!

amy clay - Jan 24, 2006 7:11 am (#570 of 2974)

I thought one was the lonliest number? Just kidding! =)

Gina R Snape - Jan 24, 2006 8:23 am (#571 of 2974)

Heh, heh. You know, I've had "Three is a magic number" singing in my head since that post!

Choices - Jan 24, 2006 12:08 pm (#572 of 2974)

Pssst!! Mackinzie - Happy Belated Birthday!! Now go take a nap so your Mama can write. :-)

Catherine - Jan 24, 2006 1:15 pm (#573 of 2974)

You know, I've had "Three is a magic number" singing in my head since that post! --Gina R Snape

Gina, I nearly fell off my chair. The school where I taught this past fall did "School House Rock" as their musical. Their singing brought back memories of Saturday morning cartoons.

On an HP related topic, there was an article about HBP in our lifestyle section of the newspaper. I noticed that the author appeared to misuse JKR's interview quotes and actually misquoted the book at one point. EEI!

When my husband suggested that perhaps I was being too picky and that most of the newspaper's readership wouldn't catch the inaccuracies, I thought, "The folks on the Lex would notice. And care."

Gina R Snape - Jan 24, 2006 2:12 pm (#574 of 2974)

Heh, heh. Darn right we'd care! And if the quotes were egregious enough, you can be sure JKR would care.

I love School House Rock.

haymoni - Jan 24, 2006 10:20 pm (#575 of 2974)

"Conjunction Junction..."

Mrs. Sirius - Jan 24, 2006 10:47 pm (#576 of 2974)

..tell me what's your function.

skh - Jan 25, 2006 3:16 am (#577 of 2974)

There's a new News story on the webpage, about Jo's trip to Bucharest.

Chemyst - Jan 25, 2006 5:11 am (#578 of 2974)

Thanks skh,
Long may she float on the flood.(But that refers to the diary entry; which is also new.)

jose043 - Jan 25, 2006 6:05 am (#579 of 2974)

Hi all

Just to say saw that JKR has up dated her Diary, saying that she is enjoying writing the 7th book. She said that it is flowing at the moment

frogface - Jan 25, 2006 6:18 am (#580 of 2974)

She's also got some more news in her newspaper section. Hooray I was hoping for an update, I logged on, and there it was! Love you Jo!

Lina - Jan 25, 2006 6:53 am (#581 of 2974)

She is so cute! She sounds as if she were a part of this very group. And it is a real pleasure to read her diary. Thank you, Jo!

KTO - Jan 25, 2006 8:52 am (#582 of 2974)

I love the fact that Jo uses her powers for good!

frogface - Jan 25, 2006 5:24 pm (#583 of 2974)

Lol like a superhero.

Finn BV - Jan 25, 2006 8:37 pm (#584 of 2974)

Thanks Jo! But give us some FAQ answers soon! And let the door open! And continue writing!

Shamrock - Jan 26, 2006 3:32 am (#585 of 2974)

Jo is such an amazing, inspiring woman. If only more of the "rich and famous" were like her and helped make the world a better place

Snuffles - Jan 26, 2006 3:41 am (#586 of 2974)

Well said Shamrock. **Claps**

Netherlandic - Jan 26, 2006 1:54 pm (#587 of 2974)


haymoni - Jan 26, 2006 2:17 pm (#588 of 2974)

"Here, here!"

Accio Sirius - Jan 30, 2006 8:12 am (#589 of 2974)

Did you all see from the Leaky Cauldron that Jo offered up more bits from the Black Family Tree? I'm a little confused, because it looks like Sirius is distantly related to James--although I believe he did say there were so few pure bloods that they were all related. Anybody else see this?

Finn BV - Jan 30, 2006 10:33 am (#590 of 2974)

Accio, check out the thread The Black Family Tree and Tapestry.

Lizard - Jan 31, 2006 9:48 pm (#591 of 2974)

We have a new wizard of the month. Creepy....

Mrs. Sirius - Jan 31, 2006 10:34 pm (#592 of 2974)

Sometimes, the wizarding world get just a little too close the true unpleasantness' in life.

The giant squid - Feb 1, 2006 12:22 am (#593 of 2974)

I still find it amusing that the wizard changes at midnight of the 1st in the UK, but the calendar still says 31/01/06 on my computer.

I think the creepiness comes from the animation on the hands...you can almost hear the "bwah-ha-ha!" laughter echoing in the background...


Aurora Gubbins - Feb 1, 2006 6:17 am (#594 of 2974)

Is this the first wizard who hasn't done something to be celebrated?

Finn BV - Feb 1, 2006 10:38 am (#595 of 2974)

Yay Jo! Now go answer the FAQ question…

Netherlandic - Feb 1, 2006 10:50 am (#596 of 2974)

LOL, Finn.

Grindylow - Feb 1, 2006 12:57 pm (#597 of 2974)

This WOM looks creepy too because he seems to have "goblin blood" on his robes! YIKES!

azi - Feb 1, 2006 2:12 pm (#598 of 2974)

But, Finn, if JKR updates the FAQ now, then you will probably be away and so won't see it for a while!

Then again, I also wouldn't mind it answering.

Lina - Feb 1, 2006 3:31 pm (#599 of 2974)

Well, I guess that this wizard was quite useful during the goblin wars or riots...

Mrs Brisbee - Feb 1, 2006 3:42 pm (#600 of 2974)

Or the cause of goblin wars and riots...

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Nolifeonvenus - Feb 5, 2006 11:15 pm (#601 of 2974)

Happy birthday Arthur!

Snuffles - Feb 6, 2006 1:44 am (#602 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Arthur!

**Hands over a plug for a pressie**

Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 6, 2006 4:03 am (#603 of 2974)

And a book on escalators, aeroplanes and other muggle devices. Oh yes and a big cake with the words on it "Happy Birthday Arthur".

jose043 - Feb 6, 2006 7:34 am (#604 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Arthur & many more to come.

Josephine & Anne

Netherlandic - Feb 6, 2006 9:36 pm (#605 of 2974)

Phelim, what about a book on traffic lights for Arthur?

Aurora Gubbins - Feb 8, 2006 3:55 am (#606 of 2974)

I just had a sudden thought - what if the door opens on, or just after the day of the Book Aid auction to show us the Black family tree? It would make sense as any successful bidder could well sell copies of the information to the press. I don't think she'd like someone to profit from her charitable side.

skh - Feb 8, 2006 4:01 am (#607 of 2974)

Good thought Aurora - on every level... I really hope that door opens to reveal the full tapestry - SOON!

Chemyst - Feb 8, 2006 4:38 pm (#608 of 2974)

Aurora, you're a Slytherin, aren't you?

Ann - Feb 8, 2006 9:24 pm (#609 of 2974)

So, does anyone know what day the Book Aid Auction is? So we can check her site about a million times an hour?

Ginerva Potter - Feb 8, 2006 10:14 pm (#610 of 2974)

I believe on The Leaky Cauldron they reported the viewing for the auction is Feb. 20th and the auction is the 21st. The 20th is a Monday, I think I'll start checking her site that day!


Aurora Gubbins - Feb 9, 2006 5:17 am (#611 of 2974)

Chemyst - what makes you think I'm a Slytherin?

Chemyst - Feb 9, 2006 5:33 am (#612 of 2974)

... what makes you think I'm a Slytherin?

This part: "any successful bidder could well sell copies of the information to the press."
(The thought came acoss as looking out more for one's own profit than as a delight in discovery of new knowledge or as appreciation of art.)

Aurora Gubbins - Feb 9, 2006 5:42 am (#613 of 2974)

Well, Chemyst, I never said I would sell copies - I would probably be worse and let you all know I had it and spent a lot of time sniggering at theories and questions. A bit Like Jo. Probably.

Chemyst - Feb 9, 2006 5:49 am (#614 of 2974)

Aurora! –I just saw your post about the auction on the Tapestry thread; and you seem to have given this a lot of thought!

haymoni - Feb 9, 2006 6:40 am (#615 of 2974)

I'm wonder how much that piece of paper will go for.

I really hope it isn't an anonymous bidder.

Actually, I'd love it if Stephen King bought it.

Aurora Gubbins - Feb 9, 2006 11:20 am (#616 of 2974)

Reckon if I can sell the house and buy a very small caravan, I might afford to buy this gem! Failing that, I'd settle for a photocopy...

Oh, please Jo, let us have a look????? *walks past the door* "I need a copy of the Black Family Tree...I need a copy of the Black Family Tree..."

Die Zimtzicke - Feb 14, 2006 9:47 am (#617 of 2974)

I am so frustrated we haven't had a birthday for Luna Lovegood. I love Luna and I really had her pegged as an Aquarian. She just seems like an Aquarian to me.

Of course, with the way Jo has everyone in the books thinking poorly about astrology, maybe it doesn't matter. Did we ever determine if Jo took astrology seriously or not?

zelmia - Feb 14, 2006 6:06 pm (#618 of 2974)

Doesn't look like Luna will survive the series then, then does it?

Finn BV - Feb 14, 2006 7:25 pm (#619 of 2974)

Shhh, zelmia, don't let Jo hear you!

Madam Pince - Feb 15, 2006 7:40 am (#620 of 2974)

I've been worried about Luna for some time. Both she and Neville are likeable, "somewhat-major-but-really-minor" characters which makes them prime targets. The way Luna reacted to hearing the whispers on the other side of the veil makes me almost sure she'll be going to meet her Mum soon, and will be setting a good example for us readers because she won't be afraid - she'll look at it as an adventure. The fact that JKR has never listed a birthday for her on the website doesn't definitely mean anything, I suppose, but I'm afraid it may be a strong indicator...

Esther Rose - Feb 15, 2006 7:59 am (#621 of 2974)

Okay well, if I thought about it for a really long time I could see how Luna might not survive. She seems like one of those kinds of characters that are simply too good for the wizarding world as it is.

She had no real significant reason to fight in MoM, but she does it anyways, without questions. She even insists on it. She was the one that was able to reach out to Harry after Sirius passed through the veil in a way that no one else could. She is the comic relief in the literary sense and still in a strange way she eases the burden of Harry's mission without taking it from him. She has almost been set up to not survive the series. =(

Ann - Feb 15, 2006 8:24 am (#622 of 2974)

I'm not altogether sure that the birthdays (or lack of them) mean anything. After all, we've had Snape's, and, despite all the fan fiction to the contrary, I find it very unlikely that he will survive the end of Voldemort. I agree that Luna would be a reasonable character for her to have die, but I don't think the lack of a birthday proves it.

zelmia - Feb 15, 2006 10:14 am (#623 of 2974)

Well, I for one do adhere to the Hypothesis of the Birthdays. Dumbledore: no birthday, phoenix song.
Sirius: no birthday, through the Veil.
I fully recognise that two is hardly a relevant sampling that could support (or refute) a hypothesis. But it'll be proved either way eventually so, I'm not too bothered.

me and my shadow 813 - Feb 17, 2006 6:52 pm (#624 of 2974)

Nothing happens when I try to "enter" the phone on JKR's desk. Has anyone entered the phone? Also, has anyone gotten past Peeves in the "do not disturb" door? I'm new to this thread so forgive me if this has been rehashed many times over...

Chemyst - Feb 17, 2006 7:10 pm (#625 of 2974)

Shadow, go here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

It is a link to the JK Rowling Official Site (9 Nov 2004 - 14 Jul 2005) thread. The first couple posts by Marè will have a ton of "catch up" information.

To see some of the things there, you will have to highlight the print because the information was so new at that time that she did not want to spoil it for folks who were still trying to figure it out on their own. (I sometimes highlight what she writes anyway because I find the light blue she uses hard to read.)

Marè gives at least one of the known working phone numbers there — I did not spend a lot of time looking. Another phone number is numerical equivalent (on a standard keypad) of the name of the Hogwart's poltergeist. (I can't make this too easy for you. )

The door opens very rarely, and for only a few days at a time, but you can find links to what it looked like when it did open both there and by looking around [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Chemyst - Feb 17, 2006 7:57 pm (#626 of 2974)

Oops, I ran out of time before I found the other link I wanted. This one, about the secret door, is from The HPLexicon.
And this page explains the desktop, gives a time line, and has other links.

Ann - Feb 18, 2006 7:47 am (#627 of 2974)

Chemyst, many thanks for the link to the Potterskeys site. The replay option is wonderful--you actually get to experience all those door openings again. It makes me wonder, though, when we are going to get the title for HP7. Late spring? Summer? (I know it hasn't been consistent, and it's sometimes changed--does anyone else remember when HP4 was called Harry Potter and the Triwizard Tournament? That must have come from her.) Anyway, it was great going through all the replays and remembering how clever all the riddles were. Hope we get another to add to the list soon!

me and my shadow 813 - Feb 18, 2006 4:58 pm (#628 of 2974)

Chemyst, thanks very much. Off I go...

Ann - Feb 18, 2006 9:16 pm (#629 of 2974)

Playing around on the Potterskeys website (with the contents of Jo's website all laid out before me), it's really striking that the door hasn't opened since December 2004! Surely we're due for something soon? Like the rest of the Black Family tree?

riotgrrrl - Feb 20, 2006 10:05 am (#630 of 2974)

Wow, I didn't realize it had been so long. I guess she figured that we had a movie and a new book to keep us occupied (and they surely kept my attention) and that we had enough new items to be getting along with.

skh - Feb 21, 2006 4:16 am (#631 of 2974)

I hope so Ann, am bored checking that page and seeing nothing, boo! Although new book was fab etc., still want more as am v greedy!

Springtime - Feb 21, 2006 10:47 am (#632 of 2974)

Jk has answered poll question

Mrs. Sirius - Feb 21, 2006 10:51 am (#633 of 2974)

Yikes! I can't find the poll on the site, where is it? hiding face in ....>embarrasement

azi - Feb 21, 2006 10:55 am (#634 of 2974)

It's in the FAQ section.

Lina - Feb 21, 2006 10:56 am (#635 of 2974)

This confuses me. How could anybody find Harry who hasn't spoken to Wormtail? If DD or Hagrid talked to Wormtail, how could they think that Sirius was the secret keeper? If Wormtail's secret applies only to Godric's Hollow, is Harry going to be able to find it?

Steve Newton - Feb 21, 2006 11:01 am (#636 of 2974)

Well, we don't know who, other than Voldemort, Peter told. And, perhaps, Peter will tell Harry. He does owe him.

Finn BV - Feb 21, 2006 11:12 am (#637 of 2974)

Maybe since Wormtail told the secret it is now no longer secret to anybody.

I find it interesting that if you really wanted a secret kept, you could make your secret-keeper a dying person and then kill them. (Or a live person, and kill them, either will do fine. )

Die Zimtzicke - Feb 21, 2006 11:23 am (#638 of 2974)

I think if a secret keeper dies, the spell is broken. Maybe I'm the only one.

azi - Feb 21, 2006 11:30 am (#639 of 2974)

JKR says the secret dies with the Secret Keeper. Surely this means that no one but members of the Order of the Phoenix actually know where Grimmauld Place is now?

haymoni - Feb 21, 2006 11:34 am (#640 of 2974)

I think other people know where #12 is - they just don't know that it is the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix.

I put this someplace else, but I thought there was a quote from the books that said someone could go to Godric's Hollow & put their face against the glass, but they wouldn't see the Potters inside.

I'm guessing Bella or Narcissa or anybody could go to #12. They just wouldn't find anybody there.

But I can't read JKR's quote because I'm blocked, so maybe I'm horribly, terribly mistaken.

Wouldn't be the first time.

Kerstin - Feb 21, 2006 12:10 pm (#641 of 2974)

I think this makes the whole secret keeper thing very dangerous:

if you have something to hide and you choose someone for secret keeper and this one dies your secret will be hidden forever. That can be ok, but what if you want someone to know? You can't even tell the secret yourself, and you can't choose a new secret keeper, because you can't tell him/her the secret which is to hide, neither can anybody else who probably knows about it.

In case of the Headquarter this means that they cannot use GP12 any longer because noone would be able to tell a new Order member where the HQ is.

I'm not sure, if I would make someone secret keeper about anything important...

Finn BV - Feb 21, 2006 12:20 pm (#642 of 2974)

Actually, haymoni, I remember that quote too.

Kerstin, I think you're right too – but I do hope the OotP won't be disbanded from not knowing where their HQ is!

Nathan Zimmermann - Feb 21, 2006 12:29 pm (#643 of 2974)

Perhaps, Dumbledore's portrait or the Pensieve possesses that information I doubt Sirius and Dumbledore would have left the Order without a way to access 12 GP.

bella - Feb 21, 2006 12:33 pm (#644 of 2974)

I was actually thinking that it may have been more along the lines of the note that DD gave Harry. Perhaps there are a few around hidden somewhere just in case.

Caius Iulius - Feb 21, 2006 12:43 pm (#645 of 2974)

As I understand it, after the secret keeper dies, the status quo does not change. In this case that would mean that those who have already been told of the head quarter whereabouts (members of the order, our trio and the other Weasleys) will continue to know. It is only new order members that can't be told/ let in to the secret.

Mrs Brisbee - Feb 21, 2006 1:00 pm (#646 of 2974)

Wow, I found Rowling's answer to be very strange.

Does this mean that there are places all over Britain that can never be found ever again by anyone because their secret keepers have died? Once all of the members of the Order are dead and gone, no one will ever get into no.12 Grimmauld place again?

I feel very unenlightened by her answer.

Esther Rose - Feb 21, 2006 1:43 pm (#647 of 2974)

My question now is "Why did JKR use Pettigrew as an example and not Dumbledore?"

Does this mean that GH cannot be seen by Ron or Hermione because they were not let in on the secret location. Can Harry see GH or is it like the thestrals and Harry still has to be told where GH is by Pettigrew?

Unlike you all I don't think that the GH secret was lifted when James and Lily were killed. Mainly because Harry was still alive and still remained at GH until Hagrid picked him up. I am thinking that Pettigrew could have very well told Hagrid and Sirius where the Potters were staying. All it would take is a letter sent to the recipient right? Can a letter be forged in the WW? Can Pettigrew send Hagrid a letter on the wherebouts of the Potters and forge it in Sirius' name or have Sirius sign it? Maybe that is too complicated.

At this point, it looks like Pettigrew is the golden snitch.

haymoni - Feb 21, 2006 1:48 pm (#648 of 2974)

Help me out here.

Somebody cut & paste her answer.

I can't wait 2 hours before I get home!

Nathan Zimmermann - Feb 21, 2006 2:27 pm (#649 of 2974)

Haymoni, here is her answer.

Result of F.A.Q. Poll (SPOILER WARNING)

What happens to a secret when the Secret-Keeper dies?

I was surprised that this question won, because it is not the one that I'd have voted for… but hey, if this is what you want to know, this is what you want to know!

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else.

Just in case you have forgotten exactly how the Fidelius Charm works, it is

"an immensely complex spell involving the magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul. The information is hidden inside the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper, and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the Secret-Keeper chooses to divulge it" (Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban)

In other words, a secret (eg, the location of a family in hiding, like the Potters) is enchanted so that it is protected by a single Keeper (in our example, Peter Pettigrew, a.k.a. Wormtail). Thenceforth nobody else – not even the subjects of the secret themselves – can divulge the secret. Even if one of the Potters had been captured, force fed Veritaserum or placed under the Imperius Curse, they would not have been able to give away the whereabouts of the other two. The only people who ever knew their precise location were those whom Wormtail had told directly, but none of them would have been able to pass on the information.

haymoni - Feb 21, 2006 2:34 pm (#650 of 2974)

Thanks, Nathan.

I am fine with this.

In both instances, the location of Godric's Hollow or the location of #12 Grimmauld Place was NOT the secret that was being kept.

The secrets were the location of the Potters and the location of the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix.

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Lina - Feb 21, 2006 3:12 pm (#651 of 2974)

Yes, but if the secret is the location of the Potters, how did Hagrid find him?

Finn BV - Feb 21, 2006 3:23 pm (#652 of 2974)

Lina, I think that if anybody is told the secret, then the whole Charm is broken and things are back to normal. But if nobody is told, and nobody is ever told, then nobody will ever find out. Does that make sense?

Nathan Zimmermann - Feb 21, 2006 3:30 pm (#653 of 2974)

IF Dumbledore was aware of James and Lily's plan to use Sirius as the Secret Keeper, then perhaps, Dumbledore was also aware of the location. The only thing he may not have known about the switch.

Gina R Snape - Feb 21, 2006 3:34 pm (#654 of 2974)

I think the situation with the Potters makes me wonder if that is why Harry has never been taken to their graves. Perhaps they cannot be seen as they are still "in" the house. Harry, having lived, left the house by moving (even slightly) after the house was destroyed. But since Lily and James were destroyed with the house, they are technically still "in" it.

The real question then is, who did Pettigrew tell besides the Dark Lord? I am suspecting he told Snape, as a DE, who then was able to assist with the rescue of Harry. I also suspect he will be instrumental in helping Harry find his parents' remains.

Lina - Feb 21, 2006 3:35 pm (#655 of 2974)

Actually, Finn, it doesn't, at least not to me. Because DD told the secret to all the OotP members, and the Charm was not broken that way...

Mattew Bates - Feb 21, 2006 3:36 pm (#656 of 2974)

I'm going to split hairs a bit with your post (650), haymoni. It's hitting on a topic that I commented upon a few months ago in the Godric's Hollow thread.

Something about the location of 12 Grimmauld Place was tied to the Fidelus Charm placed upon it, because it only became visible to Harry after he read the note from Dumbledore. That may or may not have been a direct result of the Fidelus Charm - it may simply be that an unplottable location only becomes visible to you once you know about it - but that is pure speculation. Either way, Dumbledore's secret was hiding the whole of 12GP from view.

While we can be certain of the Secret Dumbledore was keeping by how it was revealed, the exact secret of Godric's Hollow and the Potter's Hiding Place™ is still uncertain. The way I see this, it all depends on how the secret was phrased. If the secret was focused on the Potters, then it would have been exactly how the PoA ch. 10 describes it - you could be peering through the window of their hiding place and not being able to see them through it. If the secret focused on the location they were hiding in, then you would not even be able to see the window, like 12 GP. If the secret were phrased carefully enough, it might simply hide them while they were inside the house in Godric's Hollow, allowing them the possibility of a normal life after they come out of hiding.

Either way, Lina, Hagrid was either in the know (if so, via a note that he didn't know was from Peter), or he was able to find Harry through some loophole in the charm - for example, the charm may have been negated when the house was no longer a house, but in ruins.

Lina - Feb 21, 2006 3:42 pm (#657 of 2974)

You make sense, Mattew. I just like to make questions... It is that she spoiled us so much...

Esther Rose - Feb 21, 2006 3:44 pm (#658 of 2974)

Exactly, Lina.

It's like saying you hid a key somewhere in London. Only I would guess the house in GH was larger than a key and GH is smaller than London. But the concept is the same. The location was not specific enough for anyone to be able to find them physically. I think Harry would need Pettigrew to find GH or at least to help Ron and Hermione find GH. Or perhaps this is something Harry needs to do with Hagrid and Hagrid alone. (No Ron and no Hermione) Which would depend on whether Harry is allowed to know the secret since he was a part of it even though he was not aware of the secret when it was made. (He was just a baby.) Would this be fitting in a rubedo process?

Lina - Feb 21, 2006 3:46 pm (#659 of 2974)

Lol, Esther Rose, I wouldn't know about the rubedo process, but I like the idea of Harry needing Hagrid to go to GH...

Mattew Bates - Feb 21, 2006 3:49 pm (#660 of 2974)

Esther Rose, I've thought for quite some time that Harry was told the secret hiding place - he was expected to grow up there, after all. Nobody was expecting Voldey to be defeated, especially so quickly. It's a problem of remembering a memory from infancy - a job for a Pensieve if ever there was one. edit: Are Hagrid, Pettigrew, and Voldey the only ones left alive that we know were in on the GH secret?

Esther Rose - Feb 21, 2006 3:52 pm (#661 of 2974)

I am beginning to believe that the final scene in Book 7 will not be at Hogwarts at all. (Though I still think Harry will finish school) I am thinking it will be at GH and we probably will not be able to visit GH or know exactly what Lily did to save Harry and Vaporize Voldy until then or just before then. It's almost the only way the story will end where it began and follow the mirroring of the books so far.

Ann - Feb 21, 2006 4:37 pm (#662 of 2974)

I wonder. I think Lina's point is a really good one--there's no way Hagrid could have found Harry unless Wormtail told him where the Potter's were, and if he did, he would have known Sirius wasn't the Secret Keeper. But in fact at the scene at the Three Broomsticks in PoA, Hagrid doesn't even seem to know that there was a Secret Keeper. Surely Hagrid would know how the house was protected if someone had shown him a piece of paper--he's an Order member; he would have recognized a Fidelius charm. Yet he met Sirius there. I agree that Snape must have been there (how else would Dumbledore have known to send Hagrid) but he couldn't have told Hagrid or taken him there, because you have to have heard it from the Secret Keeper directly, not via a third party. (Also, I'm convinced that Snape had no idea that Sirius wasn't the criminal everyone thought he was in PoA; Wormtail must have told Voldemort in writing.)

As for Grimmauld Place, I don't think there's a problem. After all, Dumbledore says himself early in HBP that if she was the true owner, she could probably just have walked up to the front door. I assume however, that she wouldn't have known that it was Headquarters--she'd have simply thrown all the extraneous people who were staying there out. The Order can tell new Order members that they're holding a meeting at the house; they simply can't tell them that it's Order Headquarters.

Hmmmmm. Maybe the change in ownership of Godric's Hollow is why Hagrid was able to find it?

Mattew Bates - Feb 21, 2006 5:40 pm (#663 of 2974)

Ann, you have some interesting points. Hagrid should have recognized a "Fidelis note." I still don't see the need for Snape to be there, however - the Potters (Lily more than James) may have had time to send a Patronus message to Dumbledore informing him of their peril.

Mare - Feb 21, 2006 7:22 pm (#664 of 2974)

I think we are forgetting something when we are comparing Godrics Hollow (GH) with 12 Grimmauld Place (GP), Peter never died, so this question does not answer anything we want to know about the night Harry's parents died.

We have seen two cases of the fidelius charm so far. So in the first situation we have the secret of the Potters hiding place. Godrics Hollow can still be found and accessed, the Potters house can be found and (I assume) entered, but the Potters themselves can't be found inside their house.
Yet Hagrid managed to extract Harry from that place after the whole disaster...

The second case is that of 12 GP, the same goes here, the house itself can still be found if you know where to look. (It is unplottable, not because of the fidelius Charm, but because of the extra security measurements that DD and the late Mr. Black put on it). The fidelius charm itself only protects the secret that 12 GP is the headquarters of the Order. How this will work out in the future with new order members, I don't know. Reading Jo's answer, it might cause some problems since DD is dead, but then again, the fact that he died didn't suddenly make that information accessible to the DE's which is a good thing as well. (Would have hate to see Kreacher cause any more harm than he allready did)

The main problem we are still having with the Fidelius Charm is Hagrids retrieval of Harry. One solution is that Peter told Hagrid, so he was in on the secret. But I find it very unlikely that Peter told him, or sent him a note without DD adding one and one together and figuring out that Sirius was not the bad guy after all.
Another option is a loophole in the fidelius charm, it is a very complex charm after all.
The main difference between the two cases is that no matter how many order members DD told the secret of 12 GP about, the secret was still intact. In this case the goal of the secret was to keep the headquarters hidden from the DE's and Voldemort. And that secret was always kept safe, DD never told the secret to a DE or Voldemort. (Leaving the Snape discussion out of it for now.)
Now in GH's case, the goal of the secret was to keep the Potters safe from the DE's and Voldemort. The moment Peter told Voldemort the secret, the secret was no longer kept. The Potters were no longer safe.
Betrayal is the only difference between the two situations, and the only loophole that I can think of why the fidelius charm was lifted from GH and that allowed Hagrid to go and find Harry. After all when Sirius couldn't find Peter and went to the Potters house to check that night, he says he saw their bodies, which means he could find them, which means the charm was lifted.
It also means that the Potters are most likely not in the house anymore, but properly burried somewhere.

Now for us to discuss is what happens with the Order of the Phoenix and their headquarters next. To let new order members in, do they need new headquarters, because the old one can't be used anymore?
And... which question did Jo think, would have given us a more juicier answer?

septentrion - Feb 22, 2006 1:55 am (#665 of 2974)

Just my two knuts : 12GP isn't hidden. When DD revealed Sirius'will, he checked to make sure Harry was the proper heir and had the house empty in case Bellatrix would already be at the doorstep. What cannot be revealed is the place is the Order's headquarters, or that the Order's headquarters are at 12GP. Snape told he "cannot speak the name of the place". So the place can be found but not spoken of.

About Hagrid founding the Potters, I guess some people in the Order knew their secret, probably by means of a written note. If Pettigrew had himself told it, Sirius would never had been imprisoned. DD, Hagrid and some others were probably in the know, but not necessary Snape.

Hi Marè, it's nice to see you here ***waves madly***

Ann - Feb 22, 2006 7:23 am (#666 of 2974)

septentrion, the reason Snape "cannot speak the name of the place" is because he would be answering the question "Where is the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix?" Presumably, if he was asked "what was your old Housemate Regulus Black's home address?", he *would* be able to speak the name--but it wouldn't tell people anything.

With the Potters, what was being kept safe was their location. Even after James' and Lily's death, Harry was still a Potter, and his location should have been kept secret to everyone who hadn't heard it directly from Pettigrew. As far as we know, that was only Sirius, Voldemort, and perhaps Snape. Anyone else Pettigrew told would know he was the Secret Keeper and that Sirius was innocent. Pettigrew would, I'd think, be very careful not to tell anyone for that reason. (I've always wondered how Dumbledore could perform the spell without knowing who the Secret Keeper was and what the secret was, but that is apparently the case.) Even if Hagrid followed Sirius (and remember, even Sirius didn't know anything was wrong until he got there), he couldn't "find" them. I certainly don't think that the Secret Keeper spell could be "broken" because Pettigrew told the worst possible person. It doesn't seem to work like that.

That's why I think Snape must have been there--how else would Dumbledore even have known to send Hagrid?

Lina - Feb 22, 2006 7:24 am (#667 of 2974)

I think you have the point Septentrion, it is possible that it was an agreement with Wormtail to send the notes to some people to let them know where the Potters are, and he should have kept his identity hidden so that nobody would know where to look for a secret. This makes sense to me. Thanks.

Mare - Feb 22, 2006 7:45 am (#668 of 2974)

I still don't believe in the note theory. Strange notes come floating in revealing the secret of the Potters hide away and everybody just assumes they are from Sirius? If you can retrieve spells from wands, surely there must be a way to tell who wrote a note?

I certainly don't think that the Secret Keeper spell could be "broken" because Pettigrew told the worst possible person
No I think the spell wasn't broken because it was told to an evil person, the spell was broken because the secret was no longer a secret.
The safety of the Potters was the reason for the fidelius charm, so when the potters were no longer safe, I think the spell got lifted. Simply because at that point it had allready failed.

::Waves madly or madly waves back to Septentrion::

skh - Feb 22, 2006 8:37 am (#669 of 2974)

I agree with Mare, that if the secret was no longer a secret, then this is what mankes the Fidelius Charm is invalid.

Also, Peter would've had to tell people the secret, such as DD and so on, it would've been odd if he didn't and belied his "double agent" snake-in-the-grass identity, so why wouldn't he have told Sirius, Dumbledore and perhaps Hagrid, if there was a valid reason.

Other thoughts - some one mentioned above, it also struck me immediately, why did Jo use the Godric's Hollow example and not the Grimmauld Place one? The latter is the one more in our minds, as has been a frequent thing in the last two books... sort of "the more obvious example" as it were - is this because she wanted to lead us away from it, or wanted us to be suspicious as a red herring?!

Lastly, Mare also mentioned - I wonder what poll question was more interesting?!!!

Gina R Snape - Feb 22, 2006 8:49 am (#670 of 2974)

skh, I have been thinking the same thing...are we being lead or diverted?

As for Snape, it makes 100% sense to me that he could have been told the secret and been party to events at Godric's Hollow in one way or another. I fail to see how telling the secret to Voldemort breaks the secret altogether. ONE person has been told. Unfortunately, the *wrong* one, as he is who they were seeking to hide from. But the rest of the world would still be kept in the dark. Therefore it is still a secret to them. It's just...who cares about anyone else. Does that make sense?

And I like this idea about passing the secret via a note. I see no reason why Pettigrew couldn't disguise his handwriting to look like Sirius' and let DD et al. know the secret, so as to keep the Dark Lord's attack a surprise. What Pettigrew wasn't counting on was Snape being a double agent. I'm sure Snape is the reason DD knew of the attack plans, he really is in the very center of everything whether people like it or not.

riotgrrrl - Feb 22, 2006 9:20 am (#671 of 2974)

Could Snape have pulled Harry from the wreckage of the house and given him to Hagrid? It would have made sense that Wormtail told Snape and maybe if Snape DID pull Harry out, Dumbledore knew he could trust him. But from what everyone is saying, I may be forgetting something about Hagrid that night because it seems that everyone seems to think that Hagrid pulled Harry out. Sorry if I missed something.

frogface - Feb 22, 2006 9:24 am (#672 of 2974)

Hagrid never mentions meeting Snape in PS/SS "house was almost destroyed but i got him out all right before the Muggles started swarmin' around".

I suppose its possible that Snape was hidden and watching though.

skh - Feb 22, 2006 9:48 am (#673 of 2974)

However, why would Peter tell Snape, as that would expose Peter as a double agent? And why would Snape be at Godric's Hollow, as that would expose the fact that HE was a double (or triple, or whatever!) agent?

ALthough I SUPPOSE Snape could've been told by Peter on Voldie's orers, as a DE and on DD's instruction, as an Order Member... confusing myself here!

But yes Gina, I agree - love him or hate him, old Snape-arella is completely central to this and indeed everything.

Mare - Feb 22, 2006 9:48 am (#674 of 2974)

I fail to see how telling the secret to Voldemort breaks the secret altogether
I don't think it was the telling of the secret, but more the actions that were the result of it that broke the charm.

The charm was cast to keep the Potters hidden and safe. However the Potters ended up found and dead (minus one, Harry, but he was found too). I think that is the moment that the Fidelius Charm ended, it had failed at that point anyway.

I see no reason why Pettigrew couldn't disguise his handwriting to look like Sirius' and let DD et al. know the secret, so as to keep the Dark Lord's attack a surprise.
Help, and please explain further, what do you mean by Pettigrew spreading notes to keep the attack a surprise? Wouldn't the attack be more a surprise without notice beforehand? Also, to the "noteteam" would the notes be sent before the attack, with the risk of DD finding out, interfering and ruining the Dark lords plan, or after the attack when Pettigrew was busy trying to detraumatize from Voldemorts dissapearing and busy running away and blowing up a street full of muggles?

And yes I definately believe Jo choose GH as an example for a reason, she knew we wanted to know about 12 GP!!

Edit: ALthough I SUPPOSE Snape could've been told by Peter on Voldie's orders
Except Snape too, didn't knew in PoA that Peter and not Sirius was the spy. I don't think Peter and snape ever met as DE's before the attack. If they did... than Snape should have known that Sirius was innocent in PoA, yet he still wanted to have him fed to the dementors... making him EBIL!

(How is it that every time Gina shows up, we end up discussing Snape? )

Die Zimtzicke - Feb 22, 2006 10:01 am (#675 of 2974)

The Potters remains can't still be in the Godrics Hollow house. Hagrid said he saw bodies and there were muggles starting to swarm all over. They have to have graves in my opinion and I'll bet Harry can find them.

As for Grimmauld Place, if Harry OWNS it he can certainly find it or tell people where it is, also my opinion. Whether or not anyone can tell anyone else it is/was headquarters for the Order is another point.

I hate the Fidelius charm. It's like time turners. It causes more questions than it answers.

haymoni - Feb 22, 2006 10:20 am (#676 of 2974)

Sorry, but if people knew that the Potters were at Godric's Hollow BEFORE Peter was made Secret Keeper, then they would STILL know that the Potters were at Godric's Hollow.

They just couldn't tell Voldy or anyone else.

Perhaps Sirius, Dumbledore, Hagrid, Lupin and others all knew where the Potters would be, but because they were not the Secret Keeper, they were safe - they could not reveal it.

That way, Hagrid could go and collect Harry without any problems.

As to #12, I don't have my book with me, but the note said something like, "The location of the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix is at #12 Grimmauld Place." It didn't say, "If you look over here, you will be able to see #12..."

Harry was told the location of the Order and now he could see it. I'm guessing between the Fidelius Charm and the Black Family protections, this may not have been the usual set up.

John Bumbledore - Feb 22, 2006 10:28 am (#677 of 2974)

First, The difference is whether the secret keeper confided in or divulged to someone. The first keeps a secret as it brings another party into the confidence. The second reveals the secret, not just to the person told directly but also dispelling the charm.

Second, Dumbledore, Hagrid, and Sirius may have known where the Potters were hiding but could neither confide in nor divulge the secret to anyone else.

Third and final point, I think where Jo may have erred is in stating that "The only people who ever knew their precise location were those whom Wormtail had told directly." Dumbledore didn't tell Narcissa or Bleatrix, but as Blacks they previously knew the location of 12 GP. If I remember correctly, Albus tells Harry that with Sirius's death, they may be able to claim 12GP and walk right in. (I don't have the book handy to check my memory.)

Review here answer to the FAQ poll on her text only site: (Spoiler Warning)

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P.S. Cross posted with haymoni with whom I agree; and I hope that is the point I am making with my number 3. Although, Jo says even if one knew before the charm was set, they could not know until after told directly by wormtail. (paraphrased). Doesn't that contradict with what was told to Harry by DD and with Sirius arriving at GH and finding the bodies of the Potters and how Hagrid collected Harry?

P.P.S. Ah, perhaps just this kind of analysis is what has been deterring Jo from making more frequent updates to her site? Gee, we are an obsessive bunch, are we not?

septentrion - Feb 22, 2006 11:15 am (#678 of 2974)

But the secret keeper can use notes to reveal the secret he holds, like DD did with Harry in OotP. And the note was burnt directly after he has read it. So if DD could do it, why Pettigrew couldn't do it before ? Or perhaps Pettigrew could have used polyjuice, making himself looking like Sirius while he was revealing the secret to some people. I can't honestly imagine DD not being in the confidence, and perhaps Hagrid whom DD trusted with his life.

haymoni - Feb 22, 2006 1:40 pm (#679 of 2974)

I think Dumbledore did know where the Potters were. He just wasn't made the Secret Keeper LATER.

Ann - Feb 22, 2006 2:47 pm (#680 of 2974)

As I understand it, the location of the Potter family was the secret "confided in a single soul" that is, Wormtail. Until he told other people, no one knew it but him--including people who'd known it before. And telling the wrong person doesn't invalidate the secret; it makes no difference what the purpose of the keeping the secret secret is--it's the wizard that has a purpose, not the spell. The spell just does what it does. And if the Keeper violates the trust of the person being protected, the spell continues to work as it's supposed to.

So Pettigrew knew where they were. He must have told Sirius right away, then he told Voldemort. When Sirius gets to the house, he finds Hagrid already there, with instructions from Dumbledore to take Harry to Privet Drive. This was, as has often been pointed out, almost 24 hours after the Potters were killed, since it's only after a day of celebrations that Harry shows up on Privet Drive. So who told Dumbledore what happened? Not Voldemort (he's vapor) and Peter would have no incentive to tell Dumbledore. After all if he doesn't, they'll never be found (except by Sirius, who everyone will blame).

The only reason others would know is (1) Pettigrew, by arrangement and probably in writing, told Hagrid and Dumbledore. After all, Sirius wanted to seem to be the Secret Keeper--his double bluff plot. He might even have given Pettigrew hair for a Polyjuice potion. Or (2) Voldemort had Pettigrew tell Snape, perhaps also in writing or using Polyjuice, because I think they wanted to blame Sirius, too. Oddly, Sirius tells Pettigrew in the Shrieking Shack that the DE prisoners in Azkaban would be looking for him, since they knew he was responsible for Voldemort's downfall. So some of them clearly knew Pettigrew was the traitor, although I don't think Snape did. (His attitude in the Shack is that of a man revelling in the fact that his enemy is evil enough to deserve punishment, not that he's been cleverly trapped by circumstances.)

And Dumbledore knows far too many details (who died and how and in what order) not to have had an eyewitness account, presumably Snape's. And I suspect several other DEs were let in on the secret as well. It's interesting that Dumbledore sent Hagrid. He wouldn't have sent Sirius (who seemed to be the traitor at that point) but one wonders why he didn't send Snape, since he already knew the location. And Hagrid couldn't have defended himself if there were Death Eaters watching the area. I think that he did probably send Snape as well as Hagrid. Unless Hagrid got the location from Peter before the murders, this must have been rather tricky. Maybe Shape had to go around to his DE colleagues to find who had the note from the Secret Keeper disclosing the location. It would have been tricky, and could well explain the long delay.

This is all very puzzling. Sorry to go on at such length, but it just doesn't make sense.

haymoni - Feb 22, 2006 2:58 pm (#681 of 2974)

I am choosing to disagree, Ann.

I think if you already know something, the Fidelius Charm can't take that knowledge away from you.

It just prevents you from passing the knowledge on to someone else.

Dumbledore knew where the Potters were. He wanted to be their Secret Keeper, but they wanted Sirius who then talked them into picking Peter.

There is still debate over whether Sirius actually was the Secret Keeper FIRST and then had them change it to Peter or if Sirius convinced James to use Peter right away instead of him.

Michael Franz - Feb 22, 2006 5:19 pm (#682 of 2974)

After reading J.K.'s answer on the Fidelius Charm, I figure Voldemort could have an ironclad security system. Anything he really wants to keep secret could be protected with an expendable minion as Secret-Keeper... whom he would promptly kill, thus preventing the secret from ever being revealed.

"Ah, Lucius... I have a very important mission for you."

Gina R Snape - Feb 22, 2006 7:37 pm (#683 of 2974)

Ann, I completely agree with you about DD knowing far too much information not to have an eyewitness (presumably in Snape).

Mare, my comment about telling people the secret and not thwarting the Dark Lord's plans was not well explained. Sorry. It was originally (as far as we know) DD's idea to hide the Potters at Godric's Hollow with the fidelius charm. DD offered to be the secret keeper, but James said no. But they wanted DD in on the plan. So, my guess is there was as part of the plan, to tell certain few people the secret so they could protect the Potters in other ways and also (and possibly most importantly) have contact with the Potters at Godric's Hollow. So it would be necessary to tell those people the secret so as not to raise suspicion or alarm. I am guessing those people would be the Sirius Black, Albus Dumbledore and quite possibly Hagrid. (I am for the moment assuming there is no way James Potter or Sirius Black would consent to Snape being informed, even though a part of me suspects it was Snape's idea to do the fidelius charm in the first place and he was furious to find out Sirius gave the job to Pettigrew. But I digress...).

Now, I bet Snape was told by Pettigrew like everyone else was, in writing. And I bet he was told on Voldemort's orders. And I bet DD was all too happy to find out Snape knew. In fact, I bet Snape managed a way to make it his business to be there that night, at Godric's Hollow.

Michael, I am beginning to wonder if DD didn't plan to take a secret to his grave shortly before his death.

Sticky Glue - Feb 23, 2006 2:26 am (#684 of 2974)

My view is that Sirius was there when wormtail was made secret keeper (because james had wanted to make Sirius secret keeper and Sirius talked him into making wormtail secret keeper instead).

Sirius had made arangements to check on Wormtail at certain times and I beleive would have made arrangments to check on the Potters as a backup. I think Wormtail would have told Sirus where the Potters were straight away, as it was probably part of the arrangments of the swap.

That means that Sirius could have got Harry out of the house and given him to Hagrid.

Sirius may have also sent a patronus to Dumbledore with a message when things weren't right at Wormtails, before he got to the Potters.

Catherine - Feb 23, 2006 10:56 am (#685 of 2974)

Michael, I am beginning to wonder if DD didn't plan to take a secret to his grave shortly before his death. --Gina R Snape

I agree with this. I've always wondered what Dobby meant in GoF when he said that he likes Dumbledore, and keeps his secrets.

Ooh, what secrets? I can't help wondering.

Mediwitch - Feb 23, 2006 4:12 pm (#686 of 2974)

You know, Sticky Glue, I have had similar thoughts, only not so well thought out!

wolfgrl - Feb 25, 2006 7:44 am (#687 of 2974)

I am certain that Sirius knew, because I think he was there when the spell was done and it was a last minute change. He would have been told straight away. Hagrid may have known the location of GH from preivous visits, (or maybe the dark mark was over the house making it easy to find) and Sirius handed him Harry when he told him to use the bike.

As to GP, If it is true that you could walk up and place your face on the glass you just wouldn't see the order which seems to be true, as there was concern that Belitrix might have been able to reclaim the house, it is not the building but the "contents" that the secret hides, so couldn't a new secret be made? Such as "The Command center for the OP is at #12 Grimwald Place" Just change it a little and use a new secret keeper then tell the order. Just a thought.

Esther Rose - Feb 27, 2006 9:03 am (#688 of 2974)

Hey all,

I just thought of something. Dumbledore said the Order was no longer using #12 Grimmauld as a headquarters. We no longer know the new location of the Order Headquarters. Maybe this go around Dumbledore was smart enough not to be the secret keeper of the new headquarters.

(go with me here.) This may mean that Snape was/is the secret keeper to the New Order Headquarters. My head is trying to connect the Spider riddle in GOF to Snape. The Sphinx said to "think of someone who tells naught but lies." Which leads me to think that possibly Snape lied to Bellatrix and Narcissa the entire time they were with him in Spinner's End. Meaning, that when Snape says that he can't tell Belltrix where the Order Headquarters was because he was not the secret keeper, he actually could tell Bellatrix where the Order was because he was the secret keeper of the New Order Headquarters but chose not to. ...Uh, you don't have to be sold on it. I am just speculating. =)

frogface - Feb 27, 2006 9:06 am (#689 of 2974)

To my knowledge the Order is still using Grimmauld Place. They simply vaccated it temporarily before they could be sure who the owner was now that Sirius was dead. That turned out to be Harry, so they could start using Grimmauld Place again.

Esther Rose - Feb 27, 2006 10:00 am (#690 of 2974)

frogface, I thought Dumbledore thanked Harry for allowing the Order to use #12 Grimmauld Place but they had found another location for the Headquarters.

Where did it say that the Headquarters returned to #12 Grimmauld? (Just asking because I could have very well missed it.)

Steve Newton - Feb 27, 2006 10:11 am (#691 of 2974)

There has been no mention that the headquarters has moved.

Ann - Feb 27, 2006 6:55 pm (#692 of 2974)

Basically, they might have moved back into 12 GP (and the fact that Dumbledore was anxious to determine whether Harry was the owner would suggest that they wanted to), but there's been no mention of it. Just as there was no indication that they'd moved into it until Harry got there at the end of the summer before his 5th year. So I think it could go either way, but it's more probable that they did move back in. I agree with those who say that it's suspicious that Rowling used Wormtail as an example of a Secret Keeper, and not Dumbledore, though.

By the way I checked the site again, and, on the question whether people who already knew the secret would continue to know it, it's a bit deceptive. She quotes PoA, "the secret is hidden inside the chosen person,... and henceforth impossible to find" (my italics here and in following two quotes). And in her rephrasing, she says "Thenceforth... nobody else can divulge the secret." Both henceforth and thenceforth do not rule out the possibility that people who knew the secret before still know it, and on that basis, I can see why people might think it would work that way. But it doesn't necessarily work that way--it's just not specified.

And then she goes on to say (about the Potters) "The only people who ever knew their precise location were those whom Wormtail had told directly...." To me, this says pretty clearly that no one who knew their location before would know it after the secret had been hidden in the Secret Keeper.

skh - Feb 28, 2006 6:38 am (#693 of 2974)

You know, the question beig "what happens to the secret once the secret keeper is dead" very much obviously points to Dumbledore, as the example of a dead secret keeper. However, the example used of a secret keeper is Peter... what is about Dumbledore and the secret that Jo was afraid to give away? I'm not with the "Dumbledore is really alive" theory, I think dead is dead. Also, what about his portrait, can that tell the secret?

Esther Rose - Feb 28, 2006 8:37 am (#694 of 2974)

I reread. You are correct. Dumbledore said that the Headquarters Vacated the location Temporarily which means they may have intended to use it if Harry was in fact the heir of #12 Grimmauld. There is no mention of them moving back in though. They may have done that already.

However, I interepreted it to mean that there was a back up Headquarters somewhere. I would hope that Dumbledore was wise enough to not be the Secret Keeper of both #12 Grimmauld Place and the back up HQ. The Order's mission in book 5 was to protect the Prophecy. I would not be surprized if the Order's mission was to protect something else, be it people, a place, or things other than just Hogwarts and it's students.

John Bumbledore - Feb 28, 2006 8:40 am (#695 of 2974)

"What is [there] about Dumbledore and the secret that Jo was afraid to give away?" by skh

Sarah, that is a good point. What didn't Jo want to give away by using the late Albus Dumbledore as the secret keeper of the headquarters of the Order?

In OoP, Moody hands a note to Harry. Dumbledore had written the secret on the note for Harry to read, but it was delivered by Alistor Moody. Is it possible or likely that Dumbledore has written other such notes for other wizards or witches that have not yet been delivered? It is very Dumbledore like to make pre-arrangements for possible complications.

"What about [Dumbledore's] portrait, can it tell the secret?" by skh

Oh, now that brings up a different but related question that I want Jo to answered on her website; "How are the portraits of the previous head masters made? or By whom or what magic are they made and placed in the head masters office?"

<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

der 905 - Feb 28, 2006 11:30 am (#696 of 2974)

Hey, She updated her diary and squashed a rummor in the rubbish bin. I for one think the last book is going to be very long, or she's going to have to leave a lot of unanswered questions. I guess she could always answer them in her website.

Esther Rose - Feb 28, 2006 11:35 am (#697 of 2974)

Well, after reading her recent entry in her diary. We should have at least an extra 100 pages. =)

azi - Feb 28, 2006 11:35 am (#698 of 2974)

So at least four chapters are written and Harry is actually doing something in them. I personally think that's good news!

Liz Mann - Feb 28, 2006 12:10 pm (#699 of 2974)

I am very excited after reading that diary entry. Please let seven be as long as Phoenix! Or longer! Surely she wouldn't tease us like that if she didn't think there was a serious possibility. She'd know how disappointed we'd be.

Ag Hart - Feb 28, 2006 1:07 pm (#700 of 2974)

Poor Jo! While she is frantically wishing for a shorter than Phoenix book, thousands of her fans are countermanding her prayers with those of their own. This is one case where I hope that our wishes win out. The only problem that I have with Phoenix is that the book's spine doesn't hold up through repeated readings. (Nothing that couldn't be remedied with--let's say-- a two volume book 7!)

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dizzy lizzy - Feb 28, 2006 5:01 pm (#701 of 2974)

I'm hoping for a book as long as Phoenix!

Happy Birthday Ron!

Finn BV - Feb 28, 2006 5:36 pm (#702 of 2974)

This is good! Four chapters… whoa! that's a lot, if you think about it. But I wish she could tell us more… like the name!!

Happy Birthday Ron!

When does the wizard of the month show up if somebody's birthday is in the spot? Will it show up tomorrow Mar 2 at midnight GMT?

Gina R Snape - Feb 28, 2006 6:30 pm (#703 of 2974)

Yeah, I hope the book is long too, especially if our questions get answered!

:sends silent prayer to JKR to give us more details on Snape, and no Grawp:

Tazzygirl - Feb 28, 2006 7:01 pm (#704 of 2974)

*crossing fingers** I really hope book 7 is as long as OotP!!! 4 chapters sounds promising...

Happy Birthday Ron!

Ag Hart - Feb 28, 2006 9:38 pm (#705 of 2974)

Finn BV --Check out the text only version for the Wizard of the Month.

Nathan Zimmermann - Feb 28, 2006 9:42 pm (#706 of 2974)

I think Daisy Dodderidge is a repeat for Wizard of the Month?

Ann - Feb 28, 2006 10:45 pm (#707 of 2974)

I just have to point out that what she's actually said in her diary is that two chapters on her plan have turned into four. She doesn't actually say that those four chapters are all she's written.

But if you start thinking about all the stuff she's told us she'll get to (somebody doing magic late in life, Grawp turning out to be a good idea of Hagrid's, spouses of faculty, cats, Sirius's & James' mirrors helping, ghosts, something big about Lily, Lily's eyes being important, etc., etc.... plus the great Horcrux Hunt, the death of Voldemort, and telling us what happened to the survivors) it's going to be really surprising to me if it turns out to be less than three volumes long!

Ginerva Potter - Feb 28, 2006 11:47 pm (#708 of 2974)

I have copies of the Wizards of the month since November 2004, but I don't have Daisy Dodderidge. She could have been before that, JKR's site opened in May 2004, I think.


Nathan Zimmermann - Mar 1, 2006 12:18 am (#709 of 2974)

I was wrong Daisy Dodderidge is not a repeat for Wizard of the Month.

Ginevra Potter the Wizards of the month for May through October 204 were as follows:

May 2004 -- Felix Summerbee

June 2004 -- Gwenog Jones

July 2004 --Donoghan Tremlett

August 2004 -- Honoria Nutcombe

September 2004 -- Uric the Oddball

October 2004 --Glenda Chittock

Felix Summerbee was honored again as Wizard of the month in May 2005, that makes me wonder if he is important in some way?

cindysuewho45 - Mar 1, 2006 2:36 am (#710 of 2974)

Hi all, I too saw that JKR had put new things in her Diary section. About how she had thought that some things would go into 2 chapters, but that now they are in 4 chapters. I am happy that there could be a longer book!!!!! I hope it is the longest yet. We know it will be the last one. However I did not see where it said that she would leave anything out. So all is good as I see it.

Aurora Gubbins - Mar 1, 2006 3:33 am (#711 of 2974)

Isn't it time we had some more scrapbook treats?

Caius Iulius - Mar 1, 2006 5:00 am (#712 of 2974)

I love a good voluminous book!

jose043 - Mar 1, 2006 6:26 am (#713 of 2974)

Hi All,

Happy Birthday Ron Weasley Many more to come.

Yes some interesting Diary information on how long the last book is going to be.


skh - Mar 1, 2006 9:54 am (#714 of 2974)

some treats would be lovely Aurora!

Ginerva Potter - Mar 1, 2006 12:36 pm (#715 of 2974)

Thanks, Nathan! I wish I had been on the site from the start!


haymoni - Mar 1, 2006 12:38 pm (#716 of 2974)

I hope she gives us something for Fred & George's birthday on 4/1.

riotgrrrl - Mar 1, 2006 7:11 pm (#717 of 2974)

Even though a longer book would mean a longer wait, I surely hope it's the longest yet.

Snuffles - Mar 2, 2006 1:45 am (#718 of 2974)

I hope the book is so long, that the postman buckles under the weight!

apologies to any post men/woman reading this!!

Holly T. - Mar 2, 2006 4:51 am (#719 of 2974)

Ha, apologies to the postal employee who will be bringing two copies to my house, a solution my daughter and I had to use for HBP after we had problems sharing OotP.

Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 2, 2006 8:08 am (#720 of 2974)

Harry Potter and the (insert latest rumour until we know real title) smaller than OoP or HbP? Yeah right. The problem is the bigger it is the longer it will take to write - and I'm not sure I can hold on that long.

But on another note, I have just looked at my scrapbook on the site. Am I the only one to have two page 2s?

zelmia - Mar 2, 2006 12:36 pm (#721 of 2974)

Looking at the new Wizard of the Month and I recall that JKR said that wizards have longer lifespans than muggles. But it seems that most of the WoM's are fairly short-lived, relatively speaking.
Were there longevity advancements in the wizarding world since the 16th century, as there were in the muggle world?

Die Zimtzicke - Mar 2, 2006 8:32 pm (#722 of 2974)

I'm not surprised it's taking her longer than she thought. She left a LOT of loose ends to tie up. If it takes her longer than she expected, though, will the release date have to change from 7-7-07, is the big question now.

riotgrrrl - Mar 2, 2006 8:52 pm (#723 of 2974)

Zelmia- It's possible that a lot of wizards die BECAUSE of magic- either by experimenting like Luna's mother, resulting from injuries from some magical creature or plant, or in duels. Compared to muggles of the time, Daisy lived quite long.

cindysuewho45 - Mar 2, 2006 10:40 pm (#724 of 2974)

Hi all, I would love to see new things for the scrapbooks. I know it is going to be some time before we get the new book and it would be fun to look for new things. You know, help pass the time before we get book 7. Have a nice day. Cindysuewho45

kabloink! - Mar 6, 2006 2:34 pm (#725 of 2974)

I have a question from several posts back. She did say somewhere, or at least I thought she did, that the mirrors would come in handy. Harry shattered his at the end of OoP? Does he still have the broken shards in the bottom of his trunk? Hmm there's probably a thread on this somewhere, but I just thought about it.

Sticky Glue - Mar 6, 2006 3:39 pm (#726 of 2974)

Kabloink - yes there has been some discussion about the mirrors in the mirror thread, this is now in the magical items thread group.

My feeling is that Harry does still have the broken pieces and that they will be important somehow in book 7

Ann - Mar 7, 2006 4:20 pm (#727 of 2974)

What she said was that it wouldn't have helped as much as you think, but it will help more than you think, I believe.

I've been meaning to sit down and go through her interviews and make a list of stuff she says we'll find out about by book seven, which now means in book seven. It is my memory of the fairly vast number of these things that makes me suppose it's going to be really long.

Aurora Gubbins - Mar 7, 2006 4:34 pm (#728 of 2974)

I think you're right Ann. I remember that too. I thought it was on the website FAQ bit can't seem to find it...

Amilia Smith - Mar 8, 2006 12:34 pm (#729 of 2974)

It is in the FAQ section, hidden by a dark mark . . .

Why did Harry have to forget the mirror he had been given by Sirius in 'Order of the Phoenix'?

I can’t give a full answer to this, because it is relevant to books six and seven. However, the short answer is that Harry was determined never to use the mirror, as is clearly stated in chapter 24: ‘he knew he would never use whatever it was’. For once in Harry’s life, he does not succumb to curiosity, he hides the mirror and the temptation away from himself, and then, when it might have been useful, he has forgotten it.

The mirror might not have helped as much as you think, but on the other hand, will help more than you think. You’ll have to read the final books to understand that!

End quote.


Eponine - Mar 9, 2006 6:59 am (#730 of 2974)

There doesn't appear to be any new information, but she's changed a lot of things on her site.

ETA: I take that back. There are apparently some new hidden surprises, but I don't know how to get them yet.

ETA II: I've already gotten three new Easter Eggs, and I'm trying to figure out how to get the last one.

ETA one more time: There are 4 new Easter Eggs!

LooneyLuna - Mar 9, 2006 7:18 am (#731 of 2974)

YaY! There are some hidden surprises, I haven't found out how to get them yet either. I think there's one in the rubbish bin area (you can move the coffee cup around and there's a jumbled word message on an envelope) and in the Extra Stuff Section, you can take the pen and write on the piece of paper, the ink disappears.

Best of luck to us!

azi - Mar 9, 2006 7:23 am (#732 of 2974)

Yey! This is a cool update. If anyone can find out how to get the surprises and would like to it write in invisible text I'd be very happy!

I couldn't get the pen to write ink though, although I did click on a book about runes in the links section which disappeared, but nothing else happened. I'm terrible at working these things out!

Eponine - Mar 9, 2006 7:25 am (#733 of 2974)

I've got instructions for how to get the Easter Eggs if anyone wants them.

Snuffles - Mar 9, 2006 7:28 am (#734 of 2974)

If you click on the eraser it takes you to the locked door, there are some potions and I have found how to pour them but nothing else.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 7:29 am (#735 of 2974)

Oooo, something finally happened! It appears the site was just being awkward! Wow, this is really interesting!

Tell away Eponine!

Mare - Mar 9, 2006 7:40 am (#736 of 2974)

Eponine, can you give us hints in invisible? Just clues to help us a bit?

Edit: Try and finish book seven by.....

Now THAT is teasing us!

Eponine - Mar 9, 2006 7:51 am (#737 of 2974)

Okay, here goes.

1. There's a coffee/tea cup in the Rubbish bin, pick it up and swirl it clockwise four times. An image will appear faintly in the coffee/tea. There's a card with the same image on it in the extras page. Click on it to get an egg.

2. Also on the extras page is a blank piece of paper (not the one you use the eraser on) Grab the pen hanging by the extras (grab at the bottom) and draw a shape (a very significant shape to Harry) on the card. It may take a few times to get it to work.

3. On the fansites page, there is a small ring box over to the left (it's in the dark), click on it 5 times.

4. When you're in the extras page, turn on the radio and listen to what he says about reviving a dead flutterbloom. Then go to the 'do no disturb' page and follow his instructions.

5. Dial 31071965 into the phone.

I think that's it.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 7:57 am (#738 of 2974)

I worked out number 5 for myself, but when I dial it I get the same error thing as usual. Grrr!

Mare - Mar 9, 2006 8:01 am (#739 of 2974)

Yes, I found the phone on my own (look for the runebook and the rubbish page for clues), and the symbol in the cup myself. Except I went to draw the symbol on the blank page.

this is fun!

Edit: Azi, the runebook shouldn't just dissapear, it shuld show you something, maybe you need to read that first for it to work?

Edit2: I'm afraid I've allready: drowned my plant...

azi - Mar 9, 2006 8:06 am (#740 of 2974)

It didn't appear the first time, but it did the second! It still isn't working.

That radio programme was hilarious! I just *love* the accent!

Ginerva Potter - Mar 9, 2006 8:11 am (#741 of 2974)

Where is the runebook?

Thanks, Ginny

azi - Mar 9, 2006 8:12 am (#742 of 2974)

In the Links section, on the bottomish shelf. Red book I think.

amy clay - Mar 9, 2006 8:18 am (#743 of 2974)

I can't get 1 or 2 to work =(

azi - Mar 9, 2006 8:23 am (#744 of 2974)

I can't get the shape to be accepted (not nice to set that for those people who can't draw!) or the phone number to work. The room of requirement ain't working either.

Hint for number one - What shape do the tea leaves form? Look for that shape on the extras page, near the bottom of the screen.

kabloink! - Mar 9, 2006 8:36 am (#745 of 2974)

Arg, I can't figure out what symbol I'm supposed to draw. I must be missing something.

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it-it is what I thought it was, I just hadn't drawn it well enough.

I have to say as fun as it was to get the new easter eggs, they don't tell us much. I was hoping that curing the flutterbloom would open the door or something.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 8:39 am (#746 of 2974)

It takes a while to get it right kabloink! It worked for me (after about 50 drawings).

Still trying that phone number!

Madame Pomfrey - Mar 9, 2006 8:45 am (#747 of 2974)

I can't get anything yet! Is it on the U.K. site?

azi - Mar 9, 2006 8:46 am (#748 of 2974)

Yes, Madam Pomfrey, it is!

Madame Pomfrey - Mar 9, 2006 8:53 am (#749 of 2974)

Thanks Azi.I am currently working on it.It's taking a long time.I have dial-up.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 8:56 am (#750 of 2974)

Ack dial-up! Good luck with that!

Can someone tell me where the eraser is in order for me to do the bit after the radio please? I can't find it!

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Snuffles - Mar 9, 2006 9:05 am (#751 of 2974)

**Bowing down to Eponine, queen of JKR puzzle solvers***

I have managed them all now! Woo hoo.

Thanks Jo

Maybe one day I will manage without cheating!

Snuffles - Mar 9, 2006 9:06 am (#752 of 2974)

azi, you will find what you need after listening to the radio on the locked door page.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 9:13 am (#753 of 2974)

Thanks Snuffles, I will try that!

I've tried on both firefox and IE browsers, and the phone *still* won't work! I should really stop and calm down for a bit!

Snuffles - Mar 9, 2006 9:18 am (#754 of 2974)

azi, are you typing in 8 numbers?

azi - Mar 9, 2006 9:22 am (#755 of 2974)

Yes, 8 numbers I type! They are 31071965. I worked that out myself and have checked on Leaky that it's right as well.

Snuffles - Mar 9, 2006 9:24 am (#756 of 2974)

Hmm, I'm not sure why then, I would have a cuppa and try in a bit before you get too cross!

Mare - Mar 9, 2006 9:25 am (#757 of 2974)

And you haven't forgotten to hit the dial button afterwards? (maybe a stupid question but the only thing I can come up with...)

And there are two erasers on the site, one near the radio, but one on the front page, it replaces the hair thingy and brings you to the "door" room leading to the room of requirement. To get to the plant, you need the one on the desk itself. (it's pinkish/redish of colour)

azi - Mar 9, 2006 9:26 am (#758 of 2974)

I think I'll take your advice! Mmmm, mint hot chocolate!

Edit - yes I did hit the dial button! I wondered if I wasn't supposed to when it kept not working!

I also don't get the replacement of the hair tie. *sigh* Patience is the key...

Mare - Mar 9, 2006 9:32 am (#759 of 2974)

You still see the hairtie? because then maybe you just need to clear your cookies, your history, cache or whatever it is called. On the very first desk page it should be gone and replaced by another portkey:

click the pink block under the gumwrapper.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 9:39 am (#760 of 2974)

That's a very obvious eraser! I cleared my cookies and my history/cache clears automatically but I still have the eraser. Maybe the site is just struggling to keep up with the number of people visiting it?

Thankyou for your help!

Ydnam96 - Mar 9, 2006 9:52 am (#761 of 2974)

Hmmm...I can't get the coffee to swish into the circle and the circle card on the extras page won't allow me to click on it.

Anybody figure out the word jumble on the rubish bin?

And what does the lightingbolt need to look like. It doesn't like mine.

azi - Mar 9, 2006 9:55 am (#762 of 2974)

Ydnam - I made sure my lightening bolt was as 'straight' as possible, like horizontal and vertical lines, if you understand what I mean!

The jumbled up words make a message which refers to a box in the fansites section which you click 5 times.

Eponine - Mar 9, 2006 10:04 am (#763 of 2974)

If anyone is interested in seeing the OotP Plan all at once (sort of), you can download it here. It took a lot of screenshots and copying and pasting, and it's a big picture. I'd type it out into a table, but I have to leave for work!

Esther Rose - Mar 9, 2006 10:05 am (#764 of 2974)

Ydnam96, it's Poetic Verse in two parts. The first part should have the same rhythm as the second part.

Grindylow - Mar 9, 2006 11:14 am (#765 of 2974)

What word does the numbers make???

Ydnam96 - Mar 9, 2006 11:19 am (#766 of 2974)

It's her birthday I believe.

Thanks, I'll try straighter lines.

Grindylow - Mar 9, 2006 11:39 am (#767 of 2974)


Good Evans - Mar 9, 2006 11:53 am (#768 of 2974)

I still cant get it to take my rubbish drawing on the extras page - anyone tell me which way the slant should go? left to right or righ to left???

its ok - it finally took it - perseverance!!!

Esther Rose - Mar 9, 2006 11:58 am (#769 of 2974)

Straight down, straight right, straight down. =)

Lina - Mar 9, 2006 12:00 pm (#770 of 2974)

There is one special thing about those changes: the Croatian language uses the same word for the hair string and for the eraser!

If you wait long enough on the Links page for Peeves to come, you will see the shape that you have to draw at the Extras page after he lets one of the pictures to fall down.

Finn BV - Mar 9, 2006 3:45 pm (#771 of 2974)

Oh, I was using the wrong piece of paper to draw the object. That's cool! BTW, is this old, or is using the eraser to "erase" the stuff on the bigger piece of paper to get a cauldron with a question mark and ingredients and arrows and stuff new?

I've gotten everything except the mug. I'll try that again.

Rosariana - Mar 9, 2006 4:21 pm (#772 of 2974)

Absolutely nothing is working for me!

Even the radio won't turn on! I figured out the jumble, "Here you get no ring within, tap five times and I am in." But even when I click on the ring box five times nothing happens. I dial the right number on the phone and click send and I get that exclamation point like always. And the image from the tea leaves is nowhere to be seen on the extras page.

Anyone have a clue what might be wrong?

Rosariana - Mar 9, 2006 4:30 pm (#773 of 2974)

Oh, and something else. Once I go into the links room I can't get back out. Nothing happens when I click on the glasses. It's frustrating.

Romylou - Mar 9, 2006 4:35 pm (#774 of 2974)


You may be having trouble with the cache in your browser. Try clearing it.

For the ring box, you have to click it fast (like double clicking, but 5 times).

On the extras page, the "O" circle card is just to the left of the yellow "about." It disappears once you click on it, maybe you got it already?

Nathan Zimmermann - Mar 9, 2006 4:43 pm (#775 of 2974)

Thank goodness, I am not an artist I'd be a poor man. I can't draw the required shape to get last egg.

Ydnam96 - Mar 9, 2006 4:45 pm (#776 of 2974)

haha, for the word jumble I got: Here I am, no ring within. Tap five times and you are in. Guess it works either way

Jessalynn Quirky - Mar 9, 2006 5:54 pm (#777 of 2974)

For some reason, I can't get the pen to move to draw my image. :-( Do you have to click the pen in a special place or something?

Rosariana - Mar 9, 2006 6:09 pm (#778 of 2974)

Thanks Romylou. I think I did get the card... it was just a red circle. Didn't look exactly like the tea leaves but close enough I suppose. Is something supposed to happen after it disappears? And the ring box doesn't work no matter how fast I click it. I'm using a laptop and don't have a real mouse... could that have something to do with it?

And I don't understand the ancient runes book. How is that a clue?

Sorry so many questions... I hope this isn't annoying but maybe other people are having the same problems I am.

Rosariana - Mar 9, 2006 6:26 pm (#779 of 2974)

Nevermind! I'm trying it on Internet Explorer rather than Firefox and I've gotten the phone to work. Hopefully the rest will as well!

Finn BV - Mar 9, 2006 6:52 pm (#780 of 2974)

Jessalyn, click once on the pen. Then go to the piece of paper directly to the left, not to the top left.

Jessalynn Quirky - Mar 9, 2006 7:30 pm (#781 of 2974)

Thank you so much! I was clicking and dragging--now I know why it wasn't working. :-)

Lizard - Mar 9, 2006 8:02 pm (#782 of 2974)

Happy Birthday to Remus Lupin, my favorite DADA teacher;o)

jose043 - Mar 9, 2006 9:40 pm (#783 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Remus Lupin my favorite werewolf & DADA teacher. Hope you have many more to come

Josephine & Anne

Ginerva Potter - Mar 9, 2006 10:29 pm (#784 of 2974)

I love the new updates! It was so much fun! Thanks, Jo!


Melly - Mar 10, 2006 12:28 am (#785 of 2974)

I've looked at everyone's hints to get all the eggs (thanks heaps by the way!) but I think I've found another one that no one has mentioned (SPOILER!!! I'm sorry I don't know how to use invisible ink) but if you go to the LINKS page (the glasses) and you drag the book with a question mark aside (which is on the top shelf next to the grey book 'I Capture the Castle') then you can pick up the key behind it to open the box next to the candle and get the page of doodlings. Sorry if this has already been mentioned and I'm just repeating old stuff!

Sticky Glue - Mar 10, 2006 1:53 am (#786 of 2974)

Hi Melly,

I beleive that was an old easter egg sorry. My keys have been gone and the box open for some time.

But I can't get the circle to work, I can make the circle in the cup, and when I go the the notice board page - I can see the circle card and I have clicked all over it and nothing happens!!

Just out of interest I now have 11 items in my scrap book, has anyone got more than that?

Neville Longbottom - Mar 10, 2006 2:50 am (#787 of 2974)

Yes, I have 12. The one missing for you is the one with the circle card.

Sticky Glue - Mar 10, 2006 2:53 am (#788 of 2974)

Thanks Neville,

Where on the card do you click, or do you have to click a number of times?

Caius Iulius - Mar 10, 2006 5:10 am (#789 of 2974)

I am able to draw Harry's you know what but nothing happens afterwards...

Snuffles - Mar 10, 2006 5:56 am (#790 of 2974)

Caius, you have to keep trying, when you have got it right, you will get a surprise!!

Aurora Gubbins - Mar 10, 2006 7:21 am (#791 of 2974)

I don't understand this - can anyone help? I've cleared my cache as instructed and even restarted the computer, I've got the remembrall out of the ring box and that's the only egg I've been able to get. I have hairband not eraser, gum wrapper not pencil sharpener and half the other stuff is missing. I've opened the runes book but can't do anything with the information, I've swirled the cup and found the image but not found the card that goes with it.

I feel like an angry gnome in the field behind the Burrow!!!


Madame Pomfrey - Mar 10, 2006 8:37 am (#792 of 2974)

I am having the same problem Aurora.I also cannot get the mixed up words clue at the bottom of the rubbish page.

azi - Mar 10, 2006 8:43 am (#793 of 2974)

Don't worry Aurora, I can't do a couple of things either. I'm now avoiding the site to stop me getting more annoyed!

For the runes, you need to correlate the numbers and the symbols with those on the runes in rubbish bin page. This then gives you the number for the phone (which funnily enough doesn't work for me!).

I don't have the eraser either, and the radio doesn't always work. I have to go into extras, try the radio, go back out and then back into extras order for it to (usually) work.

I don't have any answers really. There's not much I can do!

Mare - Mar 10, 2006 9:30 am (#794 of 2974)

Have you all tried another page? Maybe a different extension loads better?

Gina R Snape - Mar 10, 2006 10:11 am (#795 of 2974)

jkrowling.com didn't work for me so I went with jkrowling.co.uk instead. Maybe that will help.

septentrion - Mar 10, 2006 11:14 am (#796 of 2974)

I've got them, thanks to people who gave us clues told us how to get the surprises, however that damn card doesn't work for me. Maybe I'll try the co.uk extension. People here rock !

azi - Mar 10, 2006 11:20 am (#797 of 2974)

I finally managed to get all the clues, but I had to switch to the .com website instead of .co.uk. Maybe someday the UK site will update for me!

der 905 - Mar 10, 2006 11:57 am (#798 of 2974)

I already got all 12 eggs, but I was wondering about the word jumble in the rubbish bin. Is something supposed to happen when you put them in order, because nothing is happening when I do it?

Grindylow - Mar 10, 2006 12:28 pm (#799 of 2974)

It is a clue as to what to do with the box in the trophy room. At least I think it is the trophy room and not the links room.....(toddles off to St. Mungo's for some memory potion)

Lina - Mar 10, 2006 12:48 pm (#800 of 2974)

Are you entering the Accessibility Enabled Version or the normal one (that below)? Because, I noticed that the Accessibility Enabled Version has some bugs, and it seems that the bugs are not always the same. For example, I don't get the exotic plant in the room with the door, but there is still the vase with the yellow flowers and on the Extra page I can't get the pen to move. If you enter the regular version, everything should work properly...

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Aurora Gubbins - Mar 10, 2006 2:09 pm (#801 of 2974)

Maybe it's the .co.uk site. I'm in the UK so, naturally, it is where I look first.

I've had another look and the desk has changed at last so I can see the new portkeys but still can't get the extras page with the changes.

I had a word with my IT support when he came home and he said it could be a Lightmaker server problem.

Who else has had probs with .co.uk site?

Aurora Gubbins - Mar 10, 2006 2:30 pm (#802 of 2974)

...And what is that thing on the pin board (extras) just to the left of the list and on the same piece of paper as "Must finish book seven by..."?

Esther Rose - Mar 10, 2006 2:34 pm (#803 of 2974)

Have the Acid Pop and the Toffee piece always been underneath the News and Rumor pages?

Aurora Gubbins - Mar 10, 2006 2:38 pm (#804 of 2974)

I think they're new Esther, it was the first thing I noticed anyway, after seeing 61 messages on the forum!

Ann - Mar 10, 2006 2:50 pm (#805 of 2974)

I tried clicking forever on the circle card, but only after I finally managed to swirl the coffee properly did it work. That may help some people who are trying to cheat (like me) and click on the solutions before getting the clues. I love the flitterbloom plant!

Chemyst - Mar 10, 2006 4:04 pm (#806 of 2974)

Does anyone know where to find a screen capture of the inventory list that shows briefly before the newspapers and watch load on top of it? I'm not having much success in capturing one of my own.

The giant squid - Mar 10, 2006 6:57 pm (#807 of 2974)

My undying thanks to Eponine for posting the different methods. Like Snuffles, I one day intend to actually find these things without hints, but right now I just don't have the time!


Puck - Mar 10, 2006 9:02 pm (#808 of 2974)

Okay, I finally managed to draw properly! Now, if I could figure out how to turn on the sound on for my laptop...

I found something else, not sure if it is an old one, but I broke a pen near the rubbish bin, and the ink spill is a clue. I found the second two objects, but have no idea what the first on is. Anyone?

I meant to go to bed early, or fold laundry, but somehow ended up searching for eggs!

Finn BV - Mar 10, 2006 9:20 pm (#809 of 2974)

Puck, I believe the clues to the broken pen are in the MuggleNet JK Rowling Web Site section, accessible here; go to the Leaking Pen section.

I'm off to try to get the mug to work. I don't think the potions worked either, come to think of it. I'll try to .co.uk address this time.

Edit: Is there anything you're supposed to do once you drop the potions into the plant? Do you click anything or does something just happen? And I finally got the mug!! Yippee!!

Sticky Glue - Mar 11, 2006 12:16 am (#810 of 2974)

Thanks Ann,

I finally got the circle card egg - I had swirled the cup, but not gone directly to the card until now.

zelmia - Mar 11, 2006 12:52 am (#811 of 2974)

I can't draw to save my life. Is that the only way to do the "Extras" page one? And what am I meant to draw, anyway? The missing tiles?

I'm trying to be deliberately rather cryptic so I don't spoil the game for others....

dizzy lizzy - Mar 11, 2006 12:56 am (#812 of 2974)

Is that the only way to do the "Extras" page one?

Yes but it needs to be drawn using right angles and no it is not the missing tiles...


Amilia Smith - Mar 11, 2006 1:37 am (#813 of 2974)

It took me forever to swirl the cup correctly . . . and the card didn't work for me either until I had done so.

Finn, the plant automatically perks up on its own when you drop the correct number of potion drops onto it. It did take me a while to figure out how to drop the potions though. You have to hold the vial just so, and it drips on its own; no shaking or clicking involved.

Chemyst, I was able to get a screen shot before the newspapers et al loaded. Apparently there are advantages to intermittent internet connections. If I'm looking at what you're looking at, the list is a table of contents for HBP. At any rate, if you like I can email you the shot, and you can see what you think.

Anyone else getting a kinked neck reading the OotP plan? :-)

And, yeah, what is that with teasing us with "Must finish book seven by..."?


bella - Mar 11, 2006 1:41 am (#814 of 2974)

-"Does anyone know where to find a screen capture of the inventory list that shows briefly before the newspapers and watch load on top of it? I'm not having much success in capturing one of my own."

I don't know how to post it, but all I can make out for sure is the table of contents for HBP in the middle. The rest is pretty blurry. There is something to do with Fred and Goerge to the left but I'm not sure if that was there before. If anyone can do a before and after comparason, that would be great.

dizzy lizzy - Mar 11, 2006 1:44 am (#815 of 2974)

And, yeah, what is that with teasing us with "Must finish book seven by..."?

Yes that was interesting...

She must have a deadline of sorts, but whose deadline and when is it???

azi - Mar 11, 2006 7:10 am (#816 of 2974)

Anyone else getting a kinked neck reading the OotP plan? :-) - Amilia

Count me in! It never occured to me to rotate it around somehow! I think that plan is the most interesting piece of information we got, although the teachers names were interesting as well (where was Dumbledore?).

I think she's just teasing with the book 7 thing.

Finn BV - Mar 11, 2006 7:31 am (#817 of 2974)

Yeah, the OoP plan is the thing I liked best so far (thankfully my neck is not sore due to the weight of my laptop), but I still can't get the potions. It's six of the red and three of the green, right? I have successfully dropped the drips in, so I know how to do that, but nothing happens!!

Eponine - Mar 11, 2006 7:44 am (#818 of 2974)

The OotP plan has been cut, pasted, flipped and hosted here.

Marie E. - Mar 11, 2006 9:31 am (#819 of 2974)

Oh my gosh, it took me forever to get the drawing thing correct. Are we still keeping all the clues secret? After we've got all the new ones, how many items should their be in the scrapbook? I've got 12, I believe.

Mare - Mar 11, 2006 10:02 am (#820 of 2974)

Finn I had to try several times with the potions, I thought I had drowned my plant at some point.

And 12 is the final number now.

amy clay - Mar 11, 2006 10:16 am (#821 of 2974)

Has anyone bothered to look at a picture of Harry? The thing you draw on the extras page is backwards. Also, I can't seem to get the coffee cup to work, how exactly are you suppose to swirl it?

Chemyst - Mar 11, 2006 10:29 am (#822 of 2974)

I was able to get a screen shot before the newspapers et al loaded. Apparently there are advantages to intermittent internet connections. If I'm looking at what you're looking at, the list is a table of contents for HBP. At any rate, if you like I can email you the shot, and you can see what you think.

Thanks, Mills. But if that is all it is... I'll appreciate it if you send it, but won't hate you if you don't – it is not a high priority. It loaded so fast for me that I just got a glimspe of the words "Contents, opals, felix felicis" and a numbered column, so my mind jumped to thinking it was some sort of inventory.

Nathan Zimmermann - Mar 11, 2006 10:57 am (#823 of 2974)

Chemyst, I think it is the table of contents page for HBP because, the twelfth chapter is titled Silver and Opals and the fourteenth chapter is entitled Felix Felicis.

zelmia - Mar 11, 2006 1:41 pm (#824 of 2974)

Is the drawing on Extras supposed to look like the one in the movie? Well, I can't do it. The only thing I haven't been able to get.... I think.

Puck - Mar 11, 2006 1:45 pm (#825 of 2974)

Thanks Finn! Found it. Can't believe I didn't see that!

I have nine in my book, but missed a couple of phone numbers. Hmmm, going to see if the old ones still work.

Madame Pomfrey - Mar 11, 2006 1:50 pm (#826 of 2974)

If you wait for Peeves to come by in the Links section a picture drops and shows what you should draw on the paper.

Hopefully JKR has to have Book 7 complete by 7/7/07.

Thanks Eponine for the OoP plan. I can actually read it without problems now.

Finn BV - Mar 11, 2006 2:58 pm (#827 of 2974)

Yes! I finally got the potions! I went to the Lexicon guide to Jo's site and it said that you had to listen to the whole radio program first! Ah!

So, because I never did the easter eggs before, I have 8. I'm off to get the other 4! Yay!

EDIT. Ok, I'm up to 10 now, and the only two I can't get are the two old phone numbers. MAGIC and PEEVES don't work for me, even though I get a check mark on the screen. Hmmm...

The giant squid - Mar 12, 2006 2:38 am (#828 of 2974)

Hmm...I just counted & I only have 11. I know I just got all the new ones so now I have to figure out which one I've missed along the way...

EDIT: Okay, maybe I didn't have all 5 new ones...it seems I forgot to click on the circle card the first time through. I've got all 12 now. yay me.


kaykay1970 - Mar 12, 2006 7:22 am (#829 of 2974)

The children and I found all 12 Easter Eggs yesterday. I always just load the text only page because I have dial-up. Someone in the chat room was kind enough to tell me all the cool stuff that I was missing that way(Thanks Lina!!). I did have to use this site to get the old phone numbers and find some of the clues. By the way, Finn those numbers worked fine for me!

Hogs Head - Mar 12, 2006 1:59 pm (#830 of 2974)

Sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm busy on work projects. Can someone (in white font, of course) reiterate each of the 12 eggs and how to get them all in one cogent post? I want to see these eggs but don't have time to play the games -- and won't for weeks to come. (I had the original 7 on my old PC, but lost them when I switched over to this new super dooper unit.)

But if you do, please do it in white font so others who do want to play the games aren't bummed out. Thanks.

Mare - Mar 12, 2006 2:03 pm (#831 of 2974)

The lexicon provides help: Just clicketiecklick here:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Have fun Hogs Head!

Madam Pince - Mar 12, 2006 3:04 pm (#832 of 2974)

Yay! Got all the Easter Eggs, with the help of everyone here at the Forum, first, of course! Thanks, guys!

Two little things that might help someone still looking: When I was swirling the teacup, I never did see a very clear image -- I don't know if you're supposed to and I just never did it right, or if it's just a very faint image inside a teacup which stays very dark inside. I was expecting the dark tea to disappear or something. I could barely see a lighter circle area, but if I hadn't read here first what the image was supposed to be, I'd never have gotten it. So just be aware that the image might be very hard to see. I was able to get the egg by clicking on the circle card, though, so I assume I must've gotten the image, given Finn's experience with having to do the cup properly before the card would open.

Secondly, I think someone had said earlier that the ring box on the Fansites page was on the LEFT side in the dark. I actually found it on the RIGHT side in the dark. Not a biggie, but it might save you some time looking.

Thanks for the updates, JKR, they were so fun! (Now, would it be ungrateful and rude to wish that her handwriting was just a teensy-weensy bit neater? ) I am having the hardest time reading the OoP outline! Argh! Thanks for the link of the reprinted version, though, Eponine -- that makes it so much easier and I don't have a crick in my neck from looking sideways!

Tazzygirl - Mar 12, 2006 3:26 pm (#833 of 2974)

There are a couple things I noticed on the site that I am not sure if any of you picked up. (I think they have all been covered! hehehe)

Anyways, while I was in the Rubbish Bin area, Peeves flies by and breaks one of the blue pens on JKR's desk. I think it is just Peeves causing havoc though.

While I was waiting for Peeves to pass on JKR's desk (the main page), did anyone notice that her phone rings? If you click on the 'answer' button, a lady's voice says hello. I thought that was kind of cool!

I am on my third attempt at getting the marble (it is the only egg I don't have! ), but it is all too fast for me! LOL

EDIT: I finally managed to get the marble egg!! Now I have all 12...

Mare - Mar 12, 2006 4:01 pm (#834 of 2974)

Madam Pince your description of the cup doesn't sound quite right to me. This is how it should look after swirling:

(Seems like a clear circle to me)

And I think you can get the circle without clicking the cup, just like you can dial the phone without getting the runebook out first.

Puck - Mar 12, 2006 5:31 pm (#835 of 2974)

Yeah! I now have 12, thanks for the help!

Finn, I had no trouble with the old phone numbers.

Good for you, Tazzy. It took me a while for that one, too! I missed it a few times this afternoon before finally catching it.

Chemyst - Mar 12, 2006 5:33 pm (#836 of 2974)

If you can't see the ring, you might want to check the settings for brightness on your monitor. When my husband uses the computer, he drops the brightness down to less than 10% and the swirled tea ring won't show at such a low level.

Madam Pince - Mar 12, 2006 6:43 pm (#837 of 2974)

Chemyst, you're a genius! That was it exactly! I have my brightness set on about 50% or so, and Mare's post above looked just like a black cup of tea/coffee to me -- as it did when I was on JKR's site. But I adjusted the brightness, and ta-dahhhh!!! There it is!

I'm such a dork....

Mediwitch - Mar 12, 2006 7:12 pm (#838 of 2974)

No, Madam Pince, if you were a dork you would have known that (so says my computer-science-major-son!)

Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 13, 2006 2:29 am (#839 of 2974)

I didn't see the circle when I swirled the cup, but it does appear when the page is loading and disappearing on my computer. Yes it's a cheat but it may help.

amy clay - Mar 13, 2006 7:12 am (#840 of 2974)

Mare, how did you go about swirling the cup to see the circle image?

Mare - Mar 13, 2006 7:56 am (#841 of 2974)

Click the cup with your mouse. You can then move the cup a little bit. Swirl it clockwise, multiple times. Some people say four times, but I have a hard time counting. (I move my mouse in circles rather fast.)

Like all other new things, you might have to try a few times to get it right.

skh - Mar 13, 2006 10:04 am (#842 of 2974)

Typical - I go away for a week and come back to loads of new things - I should go away more often!!!

Fab new eggs, and thanks to everyone for working them out.

(PS, for me, cup swirling was minimum of 4 for it to change to a circle, but no real max....)

John Bumbledore - Mar 13, 2006 3:28 pm (#843 of 2974)

You know your a Harry Potter fan when...

after you discover the tea cup near the rubbish bin on JKRowling's official site will move and immediately swirl it 7 times clockwise and then once anti-clockwise.

Jo now has a red acid pop on her desk (it is under the news paper.) And a Toffie too (under the rummor rag or the her bio..) I can't tell if it says "Ton Tounge" above the word Toffie on the wrapper though...

<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

skh - Mar 14, 2006 3:28 am (#844 of 2974)

All the new documents on the desk - what's there? I can see the chapter list page of HBP, but what's the document under the Acid Pop? I pasted it into Powerpoint so I could look at it on slideshow (biggest view I could think of!) but can't really make it out...

EDIT:- it looks like a list in relation to Weasley's Wizard Wheezes, actually, on second "peer"

vball man - Mar 15, 2006 9:11 pm (#845 of 2974)

Has anyone noticed that the page called, "A very early draft of Philosophers's Stone (page 1)" seems to have some bleed-through from the other side of the page?

I Photoshopped it - flipped it horizontally and tried to mess with the colors - could make much out...

Finn BV - Mar 16, 2006 5:58 am (#846 of 2974)

vball man, you could or couldn't make much out?

Wizadora - Mar 16, 2006 1:27 pm (#847 of 2974)

Does anyone have a list of all 12 easter eggs. I got a new computer and need to find them all again, and I am missing some, not sure why.

Has anyone found the ingrediant that looks like speech bubbles? I have the egg shells and grass bits.

Steve Newton - Mar 16, 2006 1:52 pm (#848 of 2974)

I think that the Lexicons page would be a good place to start.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

vball man - Mar 16, 2006 4:56 pm (#849 of 2974)

woops. Couldn't. Sorry if I got your hopes up. I'm sure that some computer nerd in a CSI movie could "clean up the image and read the whole thing."

Mare - Mar 16, 2006 5:21 pm (#850 of 2974)

Wizadora, the ingredient that looks like speech bubbles are marble like thingies. To find them go to the fansite award page and move the medal boxes on the upper shelf.

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Wizadora - Mar 17, 2006 2:45 pm (#851 of 2974)

Thanks for all your help everyone, my scrapbook is all full up now.

Snuffles - Mar 20, 2006 9:44 am (#852 of 2974)

My work computer curled up and died on me last week and when I went on JKR's site I realised I had lost all the easter eggs so I have just spent the last 20 mins collecting them all again .

I also did it without cheating. Hooray!!

There was only 12 right???

riotgrrrl - Mar 20, 2006 8:21 pm (#853 of 2974)

So far.

Ann - Mar 20, 2006 9:28 pm (#854 of 2974)

Okay, I screen captured and copied the lower layer of the new "Extra Stuff" page(hairbrush, formerly coffee mug) into Photoshop, and two bits struck me.

First, on the top part of the "Try and finish book seven by" page, the she's drawn one of her charts. It's a diamond shape, open at the upper right. The top element may begin "Dra..." but the right side (possibly more than one word) is erased. Perhaps Draco's Something? From there a line goes down and left to "Harry's potions book" and from it a line down and right to "Half Blood Prince" (without hyphen again). On the same level as the potions book notation are two words with a line down and left to the "Half Blood Prince"; The second word is crossed out thoroughly, and the first is hard to read. It begins with D or P, but seems to contain an i as its third letter (or conceivably an l). It could be Prince again. I wonder if this is a clue of some kind? Since it makes reference to Book 7, it might be part of it.

The other thing that puzzled me may be just a left over from earlier versions, but there's an appointment note that lists an appointment with a midwife that I don't remember from before. Can she be expecting again? Will book 7 also be a twin?

Any thoughts on either question? Am I desperate for hints, or what?

Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 21, 2006 2:50 am (#855 of 2974)

Could it be Draco's Detour? Especially as I think JKR said that books six and seven were two halves of the same story. HBP was part one and book seven is part two. The chart could be showing how the two go together.

skh - Mar 21, 2006 7:26 am (#856 of 2974)

Ann- I'm sure the midwife's appt. was there before, so it must be a left over...

Good work on the deciphering though

John Bumbledore - Mar 29, 2006 12:52 pm (#857 of 2974)

"You know, the question being "what happens to the secret once the secret keeper is dead" very much obviously points to Dumbledore, as the example of a dead secret keeper. However, the example used of a secret keeper is Peter... what is about Dumbledore and the secret that Jo was afraid to give away?" - SKH #693

"Perhaps it has to do with the one who actually cast the charm - once they are dead, the charm is dead." - Choices "Things which struck you as 'odd'" #1434

So, the more important question is, who cast the Secret Keeper spell for the Headquarters of the Order? That goes a long way to explaining why Jo said she didn't know why we wanted to know what happens when the Secret Keeper dies! If Dumbledore cast the spell, then number 12 Grimmauld Place may again be visible! Just as the petrificus totalus spell on Harry was released upon DD's death.

Jo's answer to the FAQ Poll was what struck me as odd. Now I believe I understand why she use Peter and where the Potters were hiding as her example!

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P.S. For reference, the result of F.A.Q. Poll (Spoiler Warning) JK Rowling Official Site Post #649 were posted on this thread by Nathan Zimmermann. Does anyone remember what the other two questions were? I'll continue looking.

Lina - Mar 29, 2006 2:07 pm (#858 of 2974)

OK, here are the questions from the poll:

What happens to a secret when the Secret-Keeper dies?
Does the destruction of a Horcrux involve more than the destruction of the object?
Why did Voldemort want the Philosopher's Stone if he already had his Horcruxes?
Courtesy of PottersKeys.com

I must say that I had a problem to decide between the first two questions, but I couldn't be sure that she expected us to vote for the Horcruxes...

The giant squid - Mar 30, 2006 10:45 pm (#859 of 2974)

If Dumbledore cast the spell, then number 12 Grimmauld Place may again be visible!--John Bumbledore

If I remember correctly, the only spell DD cast on the place was the Fidelius charm about the OotP. The other spells (making it unplottable & invisible) were done by Sirius' father, which apparently can survive past the caster's death.


Neville Longbottom - Mar 31, 2006 1:09 pm (#860 of 2974)

Okay, the door is open again. I won't give too much away, but as a start, there's something behind the plant that will help you getting into the room. I think I am as far as currently possible (I sat my W.O.M.B.A.T.), and now it seems that we have to wait a bit, maybe a few days. It also might be an April's Fool joke. Only time will tell.

Tazzygirl - Mar 31, 2006 1:15 pm (#861 of 2974)

Yippee the door is OPEN!!!!!!

lilysmom - Mar 31, 2006 1:40 pm (#862 of 2974)

I just finished my W.O.M.B.A.T. Thank you Jo...so much fun! (Even if it does turn out to be an April Fool's joke!)

Gina R Snape - Mar 31, 2006 1:47 pm (#863 of 2974)

woohoo. I just finished my W.O.M.B.A.T. too and I can't wait to get my results!

FYI, I went back to "retake" the test to see if my score was available, and it's not.

Jessalynn Quirky - Mar 31, 2006 1:48 pm (#864 of 2974)

What's a W.O.M.B.A.T test? :-/ How do you do it?

Oh, wait. Never mind; the gold thing wasn't pointing all the way up.

Neville Longbottom - Mar 31, 2006 1:54 pm (#865 of 2974)

Enter the room and you'll find out. ;-)

Mrs. Sirius - Mar 31, 2006 1:58 pm (#866 of 2974)

I got the riddle but can't get past that point. ughhhhh

Finn BV - Mar 31, 2006 2:05 pm (#867 of 2974)

This is so annoying! The p key on my keyboard doesn't work – I have to copy and paste – so I can't get past the riddle! I'll have to go do it on another computer...

Tazzygirl - Mar 31, 2006 2:29 pm (#868 of 2974)

Neville- what is behind the plant? I clicked all around that area, got the hourglass on my mouse to wait, and that was it! hmmmmmm... Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: Nevermind! I figured it out!

Finn BV - Mar 31, 2006 2:43 pm (#869 of 2974)

Okay, I sat my WOMBAT. That was a ton of fun!

Questions in white -->Can you Apparate to Gringotts? Would you take a Kneazle with you on a perilous trip? Would you call in only the Department of Magical Accidents and Catastrophes and the Obliviators for the Muggle motorcyclists crashing into the lamppost?<-- I had some more questions but I forgot them now.

Sticky Glue - Mar 31, 2006 2:44 pm (#870 of 2974)

Well I must be having a blonde moment, I've found the thing behind the plant, i've draged it around and tried clicking it, but what do I do with it to get the door open? help?

Tazzygirl - Mar 31, 2006 2:45 pm (#871 of 2974)

FINN! How did you get into the room? I got the key in the door, answered the riddle.. what now??

Sticky Glue:Bring the rock (or whatever it is) to the mirror...

Finn BV - Mar 31, 2006 2:51 pm (#872 of 2974)

You know, you guys could go to either TLC or MN… each has a nice explanation of how to get in! But here I am…

Well I must be having a blonde moment --Sticky Glue

No, you can't be. I got in.

Click on the riddle and type on the keyboard reparo. The mirror will repair, close the riddle. Click on the open door in the reflection. Then the real door will open! Yay! There is a graduation cap with the gold thingy on top of it at a 3 o'clock position on a standard clock. Drag it to a 12 o'clock position, and it will move aside! Click on the paper, and there's your WOMBAT.

Tazzygirl - Mar 31, 2006 2:57 pm (#873 of 2974)

But we would rather ask you, Finn! Thanks!

:SOB: I don't have 25 minutes to do the W.O.M.B.A.T.!!! I'll have to wait until this evening...

frogface - Mar 31, 2006 3:07 pm (#874 of 2974)

The door isn't open when I go. Is this because I entered the .co.uk?

Lina - Mar 31, 2006 3:08 pm (#875 of 2974)

The test can be done in less time, Kristina, but it is probably better if you take your time... I even left the empty chat room to be able to make the test peacefully.

I'm really looking forward to see what will the results be like? Will those be just the standard grades (troll - outstanding) or will we get some more explanation on our answers? Maybe, after "they" grade them we will be able to see where we went wrong? Maybe there will be time to answer the papers and then just time to see the results? So you can answer the test several times if you are not sure which is he right answer and get several identification codes, but once after the results are out, you won't be able to take the test again?

I don't know if this is important, but I have left the door opened for a really long time, and Peeves didn't show up.

Anyway, it is really great that she finally opened the door and gave us some fun. Yay for Jo!

Frogface, check rather the link that you are entering. I do have the feeling that the "Accessibility Enabled Version" does not always work properly. I think it is safer to take the plain link "Enter site" that is below.

Finn BV - Mar 31, 2006 3:15 pm (#876 of 2974)

Frogface, did you do all the instructions, including break the mirror with the rock, etc., or did you just go to the page to see if the door was open -- because it's not at first, you have to maneuever certain things to get it to open.

Lina, I'm not sure if we'll be able to take it after the results are handed out, because the door will probably close again, but what I would do would be to go to as many computers handy and take the test with a number of different answers. Although she'll probably offer up an answer list... then again, some of the questions were a matter of opinion.

frogface - Mar 31, 2006 3:22 pm (#877 of 2974)

The do not disturb sign is on the door.

Finn BV - Mar 31, 2006 3:29 pm (#878 of 2974)

frogface, I just went to the .co.uk site and everything worked fine. I'd try clearing your cache if you can.

Neville Longbottom - Mar 31, 2006 4:10 pm (#879 of 2974)

@ Finn: I do not know about the other questions, I just guessed there and have no idea about the answers. But yes, I would choose a Kneazle as well. They are said to lead their owner to safety or something like that. (Crookshanks time will come in book 7,

Nathan Zimmermann - Mar 31, 2006 4:17 pm (#880 of 2974)

On the text only version of the website it lists a new Wizard of the month Grogan Stump, 1770 - 1884 Popular Minister for Magic, appointed 1811.

Weeny Owl - Mar 31, 2006 4:18 pm (#881 of 2974)

I've cleared by cache about six times and the sign is still on the door. I'm stumped.

Tazzygirl - Mar 31, 2006 4:34 pm (#882 of 2974)

I managed to get on the computer at my mom's school, and managed to take the test! I found a way where you can take it multiple times from the same computer- just answer 'No' for the second question... I only did it once though. It was pretty fun to take!!

I just went to check to see if the door was locked again, and it is not. Hmmmmmmm...

Finn BV - Mar 31, 2006 5:02 pm (#883 of 2974)

Happy Bday Gred and Forge! Our fun thread comes tomorrow! Yay!

dizzy lizzy - Mar 31, 2006 5:51 pm (#884 of 2974)

That's amazing!! I'm pretty sure I got about half of the answers wrong but hey, it was fun!

It's Tonks - Mar 31, 2006 6:53 pm (#885 of 2974)

Grrrr...I'm so frustrated. I used the rock, broke the mirror, put key in door, clicked on paper and it disappeared. Then nothing. What do I do next to get the riddle so I can answer it and open the door??

Sticky Glue - Mar 31, 2006 7:02 pm (#886 of 2974)

Thankyou so much Finn, I managed to get in and take the test etc.

Amilia Smith - Mar 31, 2006 7:17 pm (#887 of 2974)

Tonks: Finn gave some excellent directions. I wouldn't have been able to figure it out without help either. I tried.


LooneyLuna - Mar 31, 2006 7:23 pm (#888 of 2974)

Happy Birthday, Gred & Forge!

If this is an April Fool's joke, it's a good one! I enjoyed taking the test, but am sure I got a "T" for Troll.

It's Tonks - Mar 31, 2006 7:28 pm (#889 of 2974)

Ok, I got it. Seems I was unable to go any further on AOL, had to use Internet Explorer. Took the test and just waiting for my grade.....Thanks to everyone for sharing the info.

Mediwitch - Mar 31, 2006 7:29 pm (#890 of 2974)

How fun! I can't wait to get the results!!

I wonder what Griselda Marchbanks's credentials stand for? Griselda Marchbanks, CDMG, APMO, fdBB


Weeny Owl - Apr 1, 2006 1:16 am (#891 of 2974)

I finally rebooted and it worked. Sometimes I think my computer is hexed.

Lina - Apr 1, 2006 1:22 am (#892 of 2974)

Neville Longbottom: (Crookshanks time will come in book 7, I sense it already).
I think you might be right, but I just have a feeling that some of the questions in the test are foreshadowing some of the events in the last book in some way. Not really that I know in what way...

Amilia Smith - Apr 1, 2006 1:52 am (#893 of 2974)

And the whole breaking and repairing the mirror thing . . .


frogface - Apr 1, 2006 2:09 am (#894 of 2974)

I went on to .com and it worked there but it still won't on .co.uk for some reason! Oh well, thanks for your help.

Dobby Socks - Apr 1, 2006 3:13 am (#895 of 2974)

Yes, Mills. I agree. And the riddle itself gave me goosebumps. There are all the literal mirrors in the books of course. And the infamous broken two-way mirror. I’m probably reading too much into this, but my gut feeling is that the riddle does have something to do with book 7. I can’t quite put my finger on it although it seems that it could almost be a direct (silent) address from one character to another, the most likely suspects in the exchange being LV, Snape, or Harry. Or even Dumbledore (from the beyond or not). Although the first line is pretty harsh if any of those are the case. No, I don’t think that’s quite right, but there’s something there.

It IS April Fools Day, and, especially with this in mind, there’s a good chance that the riddle is just a set of instructions to get us into the room (for whatever humorous purpose). It would, however, be particularly interesting if there were a clue / foreshadowing, etc., not in the room itself, but in the means to enter it. Unfortunately, I’m up way past my bedtime and I think my brain is stuck on pause. Wink

Oh… this is my first post by the way (I’ve been lurking for about 8 months.) And my first room opening! Nifty. So hi all. And thanks, Finn, for your input. Incidentally, this exam was making me feel very “Hermione” tonight… I’ve always hated timed tests! LOL. I should’ve waited till Potterskeys had all the questions posted. Ah well. I did love that question about the witch who often turns her muggle husband into, what was it? A dining room table?

Anyway, since it was the “Grade One” WOMBAT, maybe it’ll be a series, and then we can see if there’s a pattern anywhere. Or it’s an April Fools joke and we’ll NEVER get the results back.

And, yeah, I think I’m just sleep deprived and it’s probably inconsequential. But it definitely did make me shiver.

Keeping my fingers crossed that this posts correctly.

Pigwidgeon - Apr 1, 2006 3:19 am (#896 of 2974)

Well, I'm frustrated. I got the door to open, moved the tassel and the cap won't move! I've cleared my cashe and all that. Any ideas as to what can be wrong?

Dobby Socks - Apr 1, 2006 3:33 am (#897 of 2974)

Hey Pigwidgeon. Same thing happened to me just before I made that last post. I took the test early in the evening. Went back to it later to see if anything had changed and was able to get the cap to move. Then I went back around 1:30am or so and everything worked except that the cap wouldn't move (the tassel would.) Maybe a temporary glitch on their end?

Pigwidgeon - Apr 1, 2006 3:36 am (#898 of 2974)

Hmmm...OK. I'll try back later, then. Thanks!

septentrion - Apr 1, 2006 5:01 am (#899 of 2974)

thank you Jo, it was much fun, even if I'm sure my mark will be more nevill-esque than hermion-esque !

happy birthday the twins !

azi - Apr 1, 2006 5:17 am (#900 of 2974)

Woohoo, that was fun! I waited until after 12 so that even if it was an April's Fool, I'm not one.

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jose043 - Apr 1, 2006 5:21 am (#901 of 2974)

Happy Birhtday Fred & George Weasley.

Hope you both have many more.

Will have to go & See about the door, on JKR site.

Hogwarts Class of 85 - Apr 1, 2006 6:58 am (#902 of 2974)

Wizard of the Month Grogan Stump 1770 - 1884 Popular Minister for Magic, appointed 1811.

Finn BV - Apr 1, 2006 9:16 am (#903 of 2974)

Ooh, a popular Minister! Not something you see these days anymore!

azi - Apr 1, 2006 10:05 am (#904 of 2974)

Quite young as well, don't you think, to become Minister for Magic? Is it possible he was Minister for the rest of his life because he was so popular, or did he retire?

Ann - Apr 1, 2006 10:58 am (#905 of 2974)

Finally, one of the people on these lists of famous people who lived to be over 100. JKR has said wizards and witches have unusually long lives (like Dumbledore), but on the cards and the Black Tapestry, they almost all seem to die in their 70s or 80s, if not earlier.

I just took my Wombat. Lots of stuff from Fantastic Beasts (which I haven't got, more shame to me), but nothing about Quidditch. I would have thought that was an essential element of wizarding life. But perhaps it's grade 2.

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 1, 2006 10:59 am (#906 of 2974)

Happy Birthday Fred & George! Thanks Jo!

Madam Pince - Apr 1, 2006 12:06 pm (#907 of 2974)

Bleah. I get the riddle paper, but then when I type "reparo" nothing happens. I've tried typing and then hitting "enter" key, I've tried typing and then clicking on the riddle, I've tried putting the key in the door first, then putting the key in the door after, I've tried tripping the mousetrap and not tripping it -- any other clues I'm missing?

Edit: Never mind, it finally opened after a lot of random clicking.... weird....

Edit again: I'm definitely sure I got a grade of Troll! Those were next to impossible to answer!!!

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 1, 2006 1:39 pm (#908 of 2974)

Alas,I wish I could have a crack at it.I know I'd get a troll too! I can't even access the RoR yet.I have dial up and am usually the last to get any of the prizes. I am unusually patient today.I usually drive to my Father in laws to use his Computer.

vball man - Apr 1, 2006 3:22 pm (#909 of 2974)

so what's with the mouse-trap? Any significance?

Finn BV - Apr 1, 2006 3:29 pm (#910 of 2974)

According to TLC, none.

dizzy lizzy - Apr 1, 2006 5:41 pm (#911 of 2974)

Only signifcance I can think of with the mouse trap is that Harry sets a trap for Voldemort in book seven.

I "copied and pasted" all the questions, into Microsoft word, but forgot to get the riddle needed to type reparo and repair the mirror. Doh! silly me.

I'm with Dobby's Socks and Lina. I think there is some significance to both the test and the wording of the riddle etc. I still think in the main, it is an April Fool's joke/reward, but knowing Jo, she's thrown something into the mix that is a foreshadowing of Book 7. I'm not too fussed over the actual details, I'll wait until Book 7 comes out!

Happy birthday Fred and George!! May you play many more pranks and bring joy, laughter and love to those who need it!!!


The giant squid - Apr 2, 2006 2:41 am (#912 of 2974)

I'm definitely sure I got a grade of Troll! Those were next to impossible to answer!!!--Madame Pince

I'm with you. I thought I knew the HP world, but apparently not! There was a lot more guessing than answering on my WOMBAT...


Madame Pomfrey - Apr 2, 2006 9:26 am (#913 of 2974)

Maybe the mousetrap refers to wormtail being trapped.I definately think the repaired mirror means Harry will repair his two way communication mirror.

Hogs Head - Apr 2, 2006 11:46 am (#914 of 2974)

I hope someone more clever than I am has or will capture the various test question. (And are we sure it is always the same test?)

Even though we can't answer many of them now, one wonders whether the Faithful Reader we will see variations on these themes in Book 7?

Mrs. Sirius - Apr 2, 2006 2:29 pm (#915 of 2974)

Oh, oh, wasn't this a "no wrong answers" test? Yikes, Trolldom here I come.

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 2, 2006 2:42 pm (#916 of 2974)

Whew! I finally took the test and printed out my student I.D. card.Glad thats over! Can anyone tell what the headline says on the Daily News laying on the desk? It says Harry Potter a ___ ___.

riotgrrrl - Apr 2, 2006 10:59 pm (#917 of 2974)

Ann- I think we discussed the age of wizards before and decided that many probably perish from magical accidents or beasts and especailly around the time the HE came to power, many may have passed by trying to intervene (as we saw that many in the order perished and I'm sure others in the wizarding community did as well). Also, Most people in the 1800's didn't live to see 100 (average life expectancy was much lower) and since many of the wizards and witches we are intorduced to from the WOM are from many years ago, even though they may not have lived a long life by today's standards, they had a long life by the standards of their time.

Herm oh ninny - Apr 2, 2006 11:19 pm (#918 of 2974)

Wow, what a test! I think my answers would make a troll look like Einstein!

The giant squid - Apr 3, 2006 12:41 am (#919 of 2974)

Hmm...when I go back & enter my Student Identification Code, it jsut says "You have already completed the test". No certificate. Am I still waiting for results, or did I do so badly they won't even bother?


Amilia Smith - Apr 3, 2006 1:09 am (#920 of 2974)

I think we're still waiting.

Can anyone tell what the headline says on the Daily News laying on the desk? It says Harry Potter a ___ ___.

I think it says, "Harry Potter e-Book Scam," which was the headline from 31 January 2005 - 13 May 2005. However, the portkeys are up to date. (ie. Erasure instead of hair band; glasses instead of pen.)


Phelim Mcintyre - Apr 3, 2006 1:39 am (#921 of 2974)

Have done the test. When does the owl arrive? And what is below Troll? Do I actually want to get my result and how do I go about it?

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 3, 2006 7:19 am (#922 of 2974)

Thanks Amilia,that was bugging me.

It said it would take a couple of days to get results back if I remember correctly.I hope only a few days after the door closes. I do know that it said you could not get results without the student I.D.#.

The giant squid - Apr 3, 2006 12:09 pm (#923 of 2974)

Sigh...this is just like school all over again. It wasn't the tests I minded, it was the waiting for the results!

ctgretzky99 - Apr 3, 2006 12:16 pm (#924 of 2974)

Took the test..yay! I think I did pretty good...some of the answers were found in that little booklet about magical beasts that you can get from the library or purchase. I took that and the quid booklet out from the library just a couple of months ago. I dont have it any longer, but remembered a couple of things.

I am also suprised no quid q's.

Good luck to all!

HungarianHorntail11 - Apr 3, 2006 3:03 pm (#925 of 2974)

And what is below Troll?

LOL Phelim! I think I, too, need to know the answer to that question (since I did not seem to know the answers to most of those on the test). Oh, why do I subject myself to such things?

dizzy lizzy - Apr 3, 2006 5:11 pm (#926 of 2974)

WOMBAT alert!!

The leaky cauldron is reporting that the lexicon now has a page up, in which Lexicon Steve and Belinda disscuss each question and what they think might be possible correct answers.

The link is: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

You might like to note, that Steve and Belinda discuss the questions and rate the correctness of the possible answers given and draw together all the canon references. It seems that many questions do not have clear cut answers ::phew::


Finn BV - Apr 3, 2006 7:35 pm (#927 of 2974)

Yeah, that was really fun to look at. I spent about 15 minutes of my lunch period earlier just reading through everything. I think I did pretty well if JKR grades it off them…

But some questions were "in your opinion," which I thought was odd… How will she grade those?

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 4, 2006 7:20 pm (#928 of 2974)

The door is now closed so maybe we will get our results in a couple of days.

Susan Bones - Apr 4, 2006 11:00 pm (#929 of 2974)

Well, shoot. I checked the site yesterday for the first time in several days, opened the door (with some help), but decided I didn't have enough time to take the test. Today it's too late! (I wouldn't have done very well anyway....) I guess I'll be watching this thread and the Lexicon for information on how you get your results. Good luck!

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 5, 2006 9:44 am (#930 of 2974)

Jo has updated her diary,she talks about visiting the OoP set and that Luna is perfect.Also in the Misc.section she rants about skinny women.You go girl!

I'm trying to find out if there are other updates but am having trouble .

azi - Apr 5, 2006 10:06 am (#931 of 2974)

Ooo, I liked the rant on the skinny thing...and it's so true!

I think there's something in the rumours section, Madam Pomfrey!

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 5, 2006 10:14 am (#932 of 2974)

Thats what I'm unable to download.Let me know if you get in.

Delightful Task! - Apr 5, 2006 11:24 am (#933 of 2974)

Am I the only one to have a WOMBAT student identification card on my desk or did I miss something a few days ago?

Amilia Smith - Apr 5, 2006 11:27 am (#934 of 2974)

I think it is new. Leaky just mentioned it. Click on it, and theoretically, you can get your score! Mine is still being graded, though.


azi - Apr 5, 2006 11:30 am (#935 of 2974)

Is the card on the main desk? I can't see one on mine...

Delightful Task! - Apr 5, 2006 11:31 am (#936 of 2974)

Same thing for me actually! Thank you Mills!

Yes, on the computer azi!


azi - Apr 5, 2006 11:34 am (#937 of 2974)

Ack, not there yet! It took a few weeks for things to update to the new style anyway (pink eraser etc.) so I'll just wait it out!

Denise P. - Apr 5, 2006 1:50 pm (#938 of 2974)

Now why did she have to go open that up the weekend I was away from my computer? I have no WOMBAT ID

lkb - Apr 5, 2006 2:00 pm (#939 of 2974)

wow...that is so cool! I took the test and lo and behold a new sceen to look at and wonder when something will happen! It's like a new door...Smile I love the added touch of the clock...it was really nice of her I think to give us something to at least look at while the tests are being graded.

Man there has to have been hundreds of people that took that test (I too am anticipating nothing more than a troll score...) I think that I would rather have her take her time in grading and write more on book 7...even though the wait for both is terribly hard!!


Finn BV - Apr 5, 2006 2:38 pm (#940 of 2974)

I can't get anywhere after clicking on the card!! But I liked the updates.

Lina - Apr 5, 2006 3:06 pm (#941 of 2974)

Susan Bones, I'm sorry about your bad luck.

I'm just wondering if we should start a new thread with the discussion on the W.O.M.B.A.T. test or it would be better to discuss it here? Because, there are some questions that I would like to talk more about. Like the question

21. Which of the following commonly held Wizarding beliefs is actually true?
a. If an inanimate object appears to think for itself, Dark Magic has been involved in its creation
b. The use of magic in front of a Muggle is prohibited unless the witch or wizard is under threat of personal injury
c. Releasing a Portkey before it has arrived will result in death or serious injury
d. ‘Finite Incantatem’ should be used as a precaution when a Muggle rings the doorbell.
e. Bad luck can be prevented by turning three times on the spot and deliberately Splinching one’s thumbs.

They haven't considered at all the answer c. Is there a reason for that?

I could find some more questions that I would like to discuss...

While, about the grading, it seems that each question can bring up to 4 points. So, I guess that some "wrong" answers can bring 1, 2 or 3 points.

And that's really a cool way to deliver results... I'm just afraid, I think that HP characters have to wait a month or two to get the results to their O.W.L. and N.E.W.T. exams, so it is not impossible for us to wait that long too...

Finn BV - Apr 5, 2006 3:11 pm (#942 of 2974)

I would doubt anything more than a few days, Lina.

Probably best to keep it here. Since the test is now over and nobody can take it from here on in (sorry Susan Bones!), there can be no spoilers. So, I'd post my questions here!

I have some questions now, but no time. I'll be back later.

Pigwidgeon - Apr 5, 2006 5:57 pm (#943 of 2974)

Drat! Anyone having trouble accessing their scores? I've entered my code --and I know I copied it right -- and it keeps saying it's not recognized (!!!) I tried case-sensitive, all caps and all lower case, to no avail

Finn BV - Apr 5, 2006 6:14 pm (#944 of 2974)

Pigwidgeon, you may have mistaken zeroes for ohs (0 for O), 2s for Zs, 5s for Ss, etc.! The comments of this post at both Leaky and MN are filled with things like this. Make sure that it's absolutely correct!

riotgrrrl - Apr 5, 2006 6:31 pm (#945 of 2974)

I didn't have the card on .com but I did on .net for those of you that are having trouble!

Tazzygirl - Apr 5, 2006 6:34 pm (#946 of 2974)

Pigwidgeon- The letters in the code are also not all capital letters or lowercase. They are random. I ended up copying and pasting my code to Word, just in case! Hope you figure out your code soon!

Gina R Snape - Apr 5, 2006 6:40 pm (#947 of 2974)

Has anyone gotten their results, or are we all waiting for them to be calculated?

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 5, 2006 6:43 pm (#948 of 2974)

Gina, when I entered my code I got the message that my results were being calculated.

riotgrrrl - Apr 5, 2006 7:10 pm (#949 of 2974)

Mine are being calculated too. I'm sure we'll all get them about the same time. I think it's interesting that there are two shelves in the room. Maybe we'll get another quiz!

Mediwitch - Apr 5, 2006 7:39 pm (#950 of 2974)

riotgrrrl - I also got the card on .net rather than .com (I usually use the .com).

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riotgrrrl - Apr 5, 2006 8:09 pm (#951 of 2974)

I saw on the comment section from TLC that someone tried .net so I tried and it worked. I didn't think there would be a difference but it was worth a try. Of course now I'm waiting like eveyone else.

Herm oh ninny - Apr 5, 2006 8:28 pm (#952 of 2974)

I always go to .co.uk/en It always seems to be the first one updated.

I love the room with the clock. I wonder why it is in shadows though? Is something hidden in the dark areas?

Chemyst - Apr 5, 2006 8:31 pm (#953 of 2974)

I was just playing around on the rubbish bin page, swirling the cup, (I don't think that matters though,) and my finger slipped on to a right click and...
...right in the middle of the page, up pops a little window that says, "Macromedia flashplayer settings." It has little buttons where you can allow or deny jkrowling access to your microphone and camera, (if I had one.) Clicking on 'advanced' takes me straight to the adobe macromedia homepage.

Have any of you with microphones & camera discovered a use for this on her site?

bella - Apr 5, 2006 10:03 pm (#954 of 2974)

Drat! I'm having the same problem as Pigwidgeon. Why didn't I think of the copy and paste idea?? This could end up being a very long night trying to figure out if I wrote 1s, ls, Zs, or 2s. Makes me wish I had much neater writing.

Tazzygirl - Apr 5, 2006 10:50 pm (#955 of 2974)

My score is still being calculated too.

Chemyst, I found the same thing with Macromedia when I right clicked. So far, I haven't done anything with it, just click out of it. It might just be there and do nothing... Wouldn't it be neat if it links to JKR's computer and we could listen or talk to her that way? On the other hand, that sounds a little creepy...

riotgrrrl - Apr 5, 2006 11:18 pm (#956 of 2974)

For anyone that didn't copy exactly (I didn't cut and paste but wrote down EXACTLY as I coulnd't print) here is the pattern I have for capitals and lower case. I'm not sure if they are all alike but it may be worth a try. L=lower case, U=uppercase, N=number


bella - Apr 5, 2006 11:42 pm (#957 of 2974)

Thanks riotgrrrl, but I don't think that the sequencing is the same. Mine started with a number. I went through all the possibilities for my ID and still got nothing(took close to 45 min to do it too). Ah well I'll just have to live through everyone else I suppose. If someone could put the sceen caps up it would be very much appreciated. It will make all of us who screwed up the number or missed the test feel included Smile

dizzy lizzy - Apr 5, 2006 11:50 pm (#958 of 2974)

I was able to type my number in straight away and had no problems. I printed my number out and just typed it in. I can't think of anything that would help though for though who are having trouble.


Sticky Glue - Apr 6, 2006 12:09 am (#959 of 2974)

I had trouble at first as well, untill I tried putting a zero "0" instead of an uppercase "O"

Tazzygirl - Apr 6, 2006 12:34 am (#960 of 2974)

LOL!! (sorry, can't resist) This all needs to go down in the 'You know you're a HP/Lexicon fan when...'

I hope everyone who is having problems with their codes get them all worked out!! ((((HUGS)))) to all of you!

My code looks like this (I took the numbers out- after all, it is my grade! ): #IH#qr###TPvDoyP#zuP#

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 6, 2006 6:02 am (#961 of 2974)

I finally got the wombat card on .net.How cool it is to have our own Weasley clock!

frogface - Apr 6, 2006 6:18 am (#962 of 2974)

JKR's comments on her diary have made the English papers! I was just reading the daily telegraph and they had an article on what Jo said. unfortunately I didn't have time to read the entire article so I don't know if the journalist is supporting what Jo said or not. But hopefully they are, I think this is really great. I hope the girls who read this really take it to heart and listen to Jo. I'm sure many of them will, as she has alot of influence. Good for you Jo

P.S to all girls from a boy. We don't care what size you are, if a person is really worth it they'll care about you for who you are, not what you look like!

Gina R Snape - Apr 6, 2006 7:52 am (#963 of 2974)

frogface, which paper printed her diary?

Snuffles - Apr 6, 2006 7:56 am (#964 of 2974)

I know it was in the Daily Telegraph, I don't know if it appeared in any others though.

riotgrrrl - Apr 6, 2006 8:11 am (#965 of 2974)

I really wanted to forward her piece on skinny girls to some of my friends but I can't copy or cut and paste. Any suggestions?

colbow - Apr 6, 2006 8:37 am (#966 of 2974)

What JKR said in her extra 's section is very well written and very true, I am glad she wrote it, I hope the young girls will take notice of it and think on it.

JKR also mentioned that Michael Gambon looked good in his NEW robes...maybe they are actually dressing up Dumbledore again...one can only hope.

TwinklingBlueEyes - Apr 6, 2006 8:49 am (#967 of 2974)

Harry Potter author criticises women's obsession with weight

haymoni - Apr 6, 2006 9:05 am (#968 of 2974)

Here, Here!!!

(Giggles childishly at the chihuahua reference!)

John Bumbledore - Apr 6, 2006 9:13 am (#969 of 2974)

Well, I'm in the pouting corner with Susan Bones and Denise P.

I was at home over the weekend and with dial-up access. I've been moping about ever since I returned to work on the fourth to find the door "had" closed. I hadn't know it was open! I think if I saw Jo in passing, I would probably just glower at her for not letting me sit the W.O.M.B.A.T. But that is childish at best, and I do understand that many thousands of people visit her official web site each day and will have sat for the test.

Although I understand the immensity of the task of recording, tracking, and scoring responses indexed by student ID number for thousands of "students" who sat the test, I still feel like sulking.

Perhaps she will open the door for a second session for those students who did not have the opportunity to take the test the first time around? Alas, it is my last, desperate hope that she does read or scan our forums and sees my pitiful plea.

With my luck, it is more likely to open to a box of Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans.

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P. S. Riotgrrrl, have you tried the text only side of her site? Just add /textonly/en after your favorite domain (e.g. com, co.uk, org, net). The en is for English but you could use fr for Frances or any of the other language codes supported by the site.


Rea - Apr 6, 2006 9:30 am (#970 of 2974)

I have a question: every time the door opened, it revealed something related to the new book, so what's behind the opened door? Do you think it was just an April's gift?

Phelim Mcintyre - Apr 6, 2006 11:00 am (#971 of 2974)

For those who wish to read about Jo's diary go to the BBC website [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Click on the news choice (rather than sport) and then follow the entertainment link in the menu on the left.

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 6, 2006 12:07 pm (#972 of 2974)

Rea, I wonder whether a surprise will be a reward for a good performance on the test? When I was in elmentary school the intructors used to give gold stars on papers that were well done.

Gina R Snape - Apr 6, 2006 2:34 pm (#973 of 2974)

Phelim, shall we take it then that your automatic impulse is to check sport first?

I think it's lovely what she wrote and am glad all the media attention upon her hasn't made her obsess over her own appearance. Many other celebrities in her position might have opted for plastic surgery just because they have the money and are in the public eye, just because "they can" you might say, not because of any real need.

Mare - Apr 6, 2006 3:36 pm (#974 of 2974)

You go Jo! (and Pink too BTW)

And for all who can't see it: clock

Eponine - Apr 6, 2006 4:09 pm (#975 of 2974)

My results are now in the post. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for them. My guess would be we'll get them tomorrow.

haymoni - Apr 6, 2006 4:14 pm (#976 of 2974)

I'm sure that she really is worried for her girls.

Let's face it, Jo's got the money.

Her little girls will be in the spotlight just as much as Paris Hilton is and basically for the same reason - having lots of money. Not for anything that they themselves have done.

Maybe Jo can buy the Tower of London and lock her children up in it for about 20 years.

Mare - Apr 6, 2006 4:24 pm (#977 of 2974)

Somehow I don't think Jo's girls will become Hilton sisters. They simply don't have Hilton parents, Jo has money yes, but she also has personality, is down to earth and knows what really matters. Her girls grow up with a mother that is a great rolemodel. I doubt that they will have chiwawa's, shitzu's maybe , but no chiwawa's!

haymoni - Apr 6, 2006 4:37 pm (#978 of 2974)

I don't think they will either - become Hilton Sisters, not necessarily dog owners.

I think Jo is WORRIED about it and knows that if she doesn't keep a firm hold on things, it could happen.

I don't have her money and I'm scared for The Beautifulest One. She's already pretty full of herself and while I keep reminding her to be "pretty inside", I wonder what I will be able to tell her when she is 15 instead of 5.

Jo's been pretty humble and she's worked really hard. I'm guessing she'll be able to make things a bit easier for her daughters, but I don't think she'll let them slack off.

Anyway, I'm glad she wrote what she did and I'm glad that a newspaper picked it up.

Finn BV - Apr 6, 2006 4:54 pm (#979 of 2974)

Tsk, haymoni, you haven't got a billion dollars? **snubs off**

My results are in the post too!! So exciting…

I'm happy for Jo and her article I completely agree with her and I'm glad it's getting recognized beyond the fandom.

lkb - Apr 6, 2006 4:56 pm (#980 of 2974)

I read here about the article and then I went to my homepage msn.com and there it was! Under the entertainment section of the site...this is so cool...

Thank you JKR for speaking up! It is so nice to hear someone else thinks the same way that I do!!!


also, mine is in the post! Very cool, do you think that one of the shelf things are for the owl? It would be very cool to see an animated owl actually deliver the post...wonder if the owl will look like Hedwig...or maybe Pig...hum food for thought....

Herm oh ninny - Apr 6, 2006 5:01 pm (#981 of 2974)

Princess and Spike, my 2 chihuahuas, take great offense at the "stinking chihuahua flatulence" remark!

My results are in the post too! I'm soo excited!

riotgrrrl - Apr 6, 2006 6:11 pm (#982 of 2974)

Thanks John B.

Mediwitch - Apr 6, 2006 6:45 pm (#983 of 2974)

haymoni -

I didn't just giggle childishly at the chihuahua reference - I laughed right out loud!

Melly - Apr 6, 2006 6:51 pm (#984 of 2974)

I'm also one of those people whose code is 'not recognised'. I'm so frustrated, I should have copied and pasted it! But I was so thorough when I wrote it down I checked it like three times! Oh well.

Tazzygirl - Apr 6, 2006 7:01 pm (#985 of 2974)

I laughed at the chihuahua reference too!

My results are in the post too!! So exciting!!!!


Marie E. - Apr 6, 2006 7:08 pm (#986 of 2974)

My results are in the post, too. It is exciting!

As a mother of girls, I totally understand JKR's concern's. At the age of six Shayla refused to wear her winter coat because it "made her look fat". I don't think you need Hilton parents to produce a spoiled, self-centered girl. What makes things even scarier for me is that lately people have been telling me how "gorgeous" Shayla is. I can't be objective because I'm mommy.

Lizard - Apr 6, 2006 7:44 pm (#987 of 2974)

Bringing up daughters is scary and it doesn't matter what your bank balance looks like. My two are 7 and 10 and are both tall for their ages and thin. This is what the gene pool gave them, both sides of the family have it. I ensure they eat well and are healthy and we don't own scales or obsess over weight. Children will learn what they live and Jo's girls will be no exception to that. They are already off to a good start by having a celebrity mother that cares.

kaykay1970 - Apr 6, 2006 9:03 pm (#988 of 2974)

I do hope Errol isn't delivering the post. It could take awhile...

bella - Apr 6, 2006 9:48 pm (#989 of 2974)

Thanks for the clock picture Mare.

Susan Bones - Apr 6, 2006 9:48 pm (#990 of 2974)

Mare, thanks so much for the screen capture. Just what I was hoping for when I logged in today!

I agree whole-heartedly with JKR about raising girls. I have a comment for those of you with 5- to 6-year-old girls. In my experience that's the age when they like "girly" things, pretty princess dresses and the like, and think about being pretty. Often (but not always) they out-grow it later.

Edit: Posted at the same time as bella!

Pigwidgeon - Apr 7, 2006 12:32 am (#991 of 2974)

Yay! Got mine to work--finally! My results are in the post.Wait... aren't I supposed to be part of the post?

Hmm...anywho, I was wondering if anyone else noticed this: just when I finished in the main room with my student results, Peeves came through. A strange, dragonfly-like insect flew through during his appearance. Does this do anything?

Tazzygirl - Apr 7, 2006 12:44 am (#992 of 2974)

Ooooh! Pigwidgeon, I haven't heard of that before... I wonder what it is? Was Peeves in the Clock room, or on the main page where Jo's desk is? Usually on the page with her desk, Peeves just knocks over the cup of pens. I love waiting for Peeves!

Phelim Mcintyre - Apr 7, 2006 12:54 am (#993 of 2974)

Gina, as it is nothing but soccer I avaoid the sport like the plague. Of course it would be different if they carried Quiddich scores, or preferably swivenhodge.

skh - Apr 7, 2006 2:43 am (#994 of 2974)

Boo-hoo!! I did my test (dreadfully - had beyond no clue - was worse than my leaving cert pyshics and chemistry paper!) and copied my code. Now I have my WOWBAT envelope, clicked on it, input my code... no problems, got the "marking" comment (bet you thought I was gonna say I copied my code wrong!).

My problem is that my PC now seems to be blocking pop-ups and the WOBAT page no longer gives me the code input window. I've cleared my cache ohno! WAIT! It worked on the .co.uk page - why is this? Any of you techno wizards know why? (Or have my office cottoned onto my PC use... oh dear, I hope not!)

My results now in the post too... The mail service in Ireland is SOOO slow!

Mare - Apr 7, 2006 2:50 am (#995 of 2974)

Are you sure the dragonfly thing isn't the doxy? I'm looking for a picture but the lexicon has none and the pictures Sarah stored in the old thread are gone Sad

skh - Apr 7, 2006 3:06 am (#996 of 2974)

Mare - I'm pretty sure too it's the doxy, that's what it sounds like. There's a picture in the Lexicon, in the "Ultimate Guide to the Website" section... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Tazzygirl - Apr 7, 2006 3:11 am (#997 of 2974)

Is the doxy looking thingy the blue butterfly, or am I just a little confused? Anyways, I need to focus back on a project, just was checking in to see if the test results were back!

Mare - Apr 7, 2006 4:00 am (#998 of 2974)

I looked there and the lex doesn't have the picture. Not at a logic place at least.

I googled and finally gave up and screencapped it myself:

Ps the butterfly changed colour to orange for me since the site update.

The giant squid - Apr 7, 2006 4:53 am (#999 of 2974)

skh: I don't know why it would work on one site but not the other, but as far as popups go if you're using a PC hold down the "Ctrl" key when you click on the link to the popup screen and it'll work.

At least, mine does...

My results are in the post as well. When I checked yesterday afternoon it still said "results being checked" or whatever, so it's likely that they'll be "delivered" tomorrow (Friday). I hope so, anyway--if they make me wait all weekend I'll have to send them a Howler!


Catherine - Apr 7, 2006 5:16 am (#1000 of 2974)

I doubt that they will have chiwawa's, shitzu's maybe , but no chiwawa's! --Mare

Very funny!

Still waiting for my W.O.M.B.A.T. results. Thanks for the screen captures and hints--I just didn't have the time to figure things out for myself this time.

EDIT: Yay! I finally got #1000 post. W00T!

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Good Evans - Apr 7, 2006 5:19 am (#1001 of 2974)

and I thought I was going to get the 1000 post!!!! Darn!!!

I was fearful that the results were out as I can't look at mine til I get home - I left my code written down there!! oh well hopefully later tongiht or tomorrow it will be revealed. This is almost as exciting as waiting for a new book - see Jo, you can keep us happy with little tests and treats on your website!!!

skh - Apr 7, 2006 5:23 am (#1002 of 2974)

Mare - apologies - what I was thinking of wasn't the doxy (only realise this now I see your screen capture) but the little fly / beetle thing that scuttles across the desk that you have to click as part of an easter egg (one of the early ones, that goes with the leaves, feather and potion into the cauldron when you rub on the blank paper in the extras section).


Pigwidgeon - Apr 7, 2006 5:27 am (#1003 of 2974)

Mare, it might have been. The darned thing moved so fast, and I don't recall it coming so low on the screen. But I forgot about the doxy, and I had never seen it before. Yeah, the butterfly changed colors on me, too, except mine is brown and yellow.

Mare - Apr 7, 2006 5:28 am (#1004 of 2974)

The doxy does move very fast. Annoying little critter.

And if your butterfly is brownish, could it be evening/night where you are? It changes colour depending on the time of the day.

skh - Apr 7, 2006 5:44 am (#1005 of 2974)

oh no - bet the WOMBAT results come over the weekend, when I won't have access to my PC, boo hoo!

azi - Apr 7, 2006 6:22 am (#1006 of 2974)

Ok, as usual, the WOMBAT card doesn't appear on the .co.uk site for me. However, on the .com site I click on the WOMBAT card and get a black screen with only the copywright statement on it. Anyone know any remedies?

Pigwidgeon - Apr 7, 2006 6:49 am (#1007 of 2974)

Mare, how often do you visit this site? But an awesome observation. I never noticed, but when I posted that info on the butterfly, it was about 3:30 a.m. here (insomnia). I went back for a quick peek and it's bright orange now.

Herm oh ninny - Apr 7, 2006 7:17 am (#1008 of 2974)

<----Stinky flatulance? Not us!

Azi- the .co.uk/en site is the one that I always use, and the wombat card is working fine for me. Have you tried clearing your cache?

Mare - Apr 7, 2006 8:02 am (#1009 of 2974)

teehee, not nearly as much as this one. But I'm a nightcrawler myself so I often visit at night. And I "summarized" Jo's site and goodies for the first post of the last official site thread, so that helps with my random knowledge of these things.

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 7, 2006 9:01 am (#1010 of 2974)

Interesting J.K. Rowling asked that the archive for the W.O.M.B.A.T. test questions be removed from the Lexicon. Could this mean that there are more W.O.M.B.A.T. examinations to come? Or did the test reveal something about book seven?

azi - Apr 7, 2006 9:05 am (#1011 of 2974)

I just read that too, Nathan! I'm not sure what it means...if it was around when the test was still being taken by people I'd understand that it would stop cheating (or attempts at), but now it doesn't make sense!

I discovered I have to clear my cache in two places for it to actually be cleared! Thank's Herm oh ninny! The .co.uk site now works fine!

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 7, 2006 9:15 am (#1012 of 2974)

There were three questions that stuck out in my mind as possibly revealing.

The questions on using magic to defend muggles against the Cruciatus Curse and Imperous

The question on which creature you would like to accompany you on a journey.

Tazzygirl - Apr 7, 2006 11:24 am (#1013 of 2974)

The butterfly is now orange for me too! I have not seen the doxy yet, maybe later on today I'll sit back and watch for it! The spider was used for the potion from an earlier egg. Maybe the doxy is in preparation for a new egg?

JKR requested the questions off the Lex? I wonder why? Must be something big, as she has never done that before (or from what I know of...)

EDIT: Ummmmm- where does JKR ask that the questions be taken down?

azi - Apr 7, 2006 11:31 am (#1014 of 2974)

It says that JKR asked for WOMBAT things to be taken down in the 'What's New' section of the Lexicon.

Tazzygirl - Apr 7, 2006 11:34 am (#1015 of 2974)

Thanks Azi!

Mare - Apr 7, 2006 11:59 am (#1016 of 2974)

I'm not sure if Jo would object to the questions on the Lex, it's just that the Lexicon apparently copied the entire test with flashy screens and all. (Like you can re-enact all the other door openings there.)
Personally I think that's the problem, maybe because we aren't finished with the test yet?

And if it is the questions, why? :Wishes she had written them down now:

Tazzygirl - Apr 7, 2006 12:21 pm (#1017 of 2974)

Well, if JKR only wants the flash site to be removed from the Lex, then the one page where Lexicon Steve and Belinda Hobbs would still be here. They take each question from JKR's site and discuss it. I don't know if that is the site you all are referring to though...

This is the site I am referring to: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Dobby Socks - Apr 7, 2006 12:55 pm (#1018 of 2974)

Oops… Well, I have the WOMBAT questions copied into Word from another site (Um, maybe I shouldn’t have done that.) Looking through them, there doesn’t appear to be any glaring clue. But still…

Creature you’d want to accompany you on a dangerous journey does seem to be one of the contenders if that’s the case. I put kneazle because that’s the one I know the most about, and it seems to be applicable. Crookshanks could figure in. (I don’t suppose it would be an augurey unless you were afraid of melting in the rain… wonder if they have any curative powers like the normal phoenix? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about JKR’s statement regarding Snape’s patronus / boggart / possible animagus. ANYWAY… guess it’s time to buy the charity books.)

Nathan, I can also see the legality of defending muggles in different situations being one of the clues also. Lots of possibilities for this one including the character who develops magical abilities late in life because of a threat, Harry going back briefly to Privet Drive, etc.

Maybe the section about reaching/entering wizarding institutions (which are 2 different issues, so I found this part inherently confusing.) We’ve got Lucius in Azkaban, and possibly Snape and Draco if they are caught, probable battles in the MOM and at Hogwarts (can you enter the school in any of the listed ways without lifting a security spell?), and several Gringott’s vaults that haven’t been explored: Hogwarts (Does Minerva have the key now? What could’ve been put in there since PS? Did we ever find out how LV/Quirell broke in?,) Sirius’ vault (Something from 12GP… Harry would have access, but what if someone else could breach security?), the Potter vault (Has Harry explored it thoroughly? Is he allowed to, or can only the goblins retrieve something for an owner?)

Sorry about the convoluted punctuation. I don’t feel like pulling the Chicago Manual off the shelf right now.

Another option: the ingredient that shouldn’t be used in cooking. Will Mrs. Weasley be imperiused or confunded and poison someone? Just kidding… I hope.

Could it simply be due to a copyright issue with “Fantastic Beasts?” (If you’re reading this, Jo, I promise I’m deleting my file immediately.)

Maybe she wants to raise a false suspicion that the exam contains clues so that readers like me will sit around doing exactly this?

Also, I do think there may be more tests to come, after which time she’ll give us something juicy on book 7. It seems too soon to get anything now.

Maybe we’ll be allowed to retake the exam?


(Who is suddenly wondering how in the world it took her 3 to 4 hours to write a response to Nathan’s post and thinking that it couldn’t possibly be her complete inability to be concise)

aberforth dumbledore's #1 fan - Apr 7, 2006 4:02 pm (#1019 of 2974)

The results are IN!! I got an outstanding!!! hope everyone did well!

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 7, 2006 4:18 pm (#1020 of 2974)

I got an acceptable which is amazing because, like Neville I never do well on tests. Fortunately it was enought to progress onto level 2.

Dobby Socks - Apr 7, 2006 4:19 pm (#1021 of 2974)

Acceptable! So excited I actually whooped! Thought I got a Troll, but was hoping for a Dreadful. Hope you all did well!

Herm oh ninny - Apr 7, 2006 4:23 pm (#1022 of 2974)

Yay! I got an Acceptable! My sister got an Exceeds Expectations, but I never really liked her anyway! LOL

Tazzy- the Doxy isn't new. It has been there for a very long time, flying by when Peeves breezes through.

kaykay1970 - Apr 7, 2006 5:03 pm (#1023 of 2974)

I got Acceptable and my 12 year old son got Exceeds Expectations!! Mine said I hope you continue to study in preparation for WOMBAT level 2. Hmmm....So maybe we will see more tests!

Ihavebothbuttocks - Apr 7, 2006 5:04 pm (#1024 of 2974)

I got an Exceeds Expectations...but I don't know how...

Gina R Snape - Apr 7, 2006 5:13 pm (#1025 of 2974)

Woohoo! I got an Outstanding!!!!

It says: Congratulations! Your exemplary powers of deduction and a formidable knowledge of the inner workings of the magical world reveal you to be a witch or wizard of genuine skill and learning. This first examination has berely tested you. We look forward to challenging you to a further and more difficult examination in due course.

I definitely take that to mean we will have more and increasingly difficult "pop quizzes" on the site. This was fun and I definitely look forward to sitting more of them.

I'm going to print out my certificate and put it up next to some of my other wizarding things. Anyone else planning on doing the same?

Pigwidgeon - Apr 7, 2006 5:40 pm (#1026 of 2974)

Woohooo!! I received an Exceeds Expectations! Wow, not sure how, I thought I did OK, but I generally don't do well on multiple guess (give me essay questions any time, as long as there's a loose word limit )

Chemyst - Apr 7, 2006 5:40 pm (#1027 of 2974)

I'm going to print out my certificate and... ~ Gina R Snape

'Probably a good idea. The print-out has a student ID on it, and – just guessing, of course, but you might have to enter your student number to move to the next level???? I wonder, if those who didn't take the first one would have another chance to take level one next "term" ???? So many questions.

Eponine - Apr 7, 2006 5:59 pm (#1028 of 2974)

I also got an outstanding!

Gina R Snape - Apr 7, 2006 6:01 pm (#1029 of 2974)

Pigwidgeon and I were just wondering that too, Chemyst! I emailed my student ID to myself so I could just cut and paste. It doesn't seem to have been saved in the scrapbook.

I don't imagine the WOMBAT will be made available again. Seems like too much of a hassle to make people take it again if they've lost their ID. And I seriously wonder if anyone got a grade of Troll.

The giant squid - Apr 7, 2006 6:01 pm (#1030 of 2974)

I got an Acceptable. Slightly disappointing, but then I did the whole thing from memory off the cuff, so that's not too bad. I'll make sure I prepare better for the next level.


Mediwitch - Apr 7, 2006 6:44 pm (#1031 of 2974)

WOOHOO - I got an Exceeds Expectations! It made me happy!!

vball man - Apr 7, 2006 7:23 pm (#1032 of 2974)

Good job, Gina!

I got Exceeds Expectations. It seems like there's more to come.

TheSaint - Apr 7, 2006 7:51 pm (#1033 of 2974)

I got an outstanding! Not bad for taking the quiz in the middle of the ER with interruptions. LOL

Tazzygirl - Apr 7, 2006 8:00 pm (#1034 of 2974)

I got Exceeds Expectations! Thought I had done a lot worse...

Finn BV - Apr 7, 2006 8:24 pm (#1035 of 2974)

Yeah, I got an 'A' which is a tad disappointing – considering I thought I had agreed with Steve and Belinda on most of the questions!

But I passed, so I get to move on! Yay!

Did anybody fail? Do you still get to take the next level?

dizzy lizzy - Apr 7, 2006 10:02 pm (#1036 of 2974)

I got outstanding

EDIT: I'm really embarrased as I thought it to be part of an April Fools Joke and really didn't pay all that much attention to it when I did it. I'll definitely pay more attention to Grade 2 .

Elanor - Apr 7, 2006 10:22 pm (#1037 of 2974)

I got "Acceptable" which makes me really happy because I had to take the quizz far too fast for really thinking of the questions!

Ready for level 2!

Mrs. Sirius - Apr 7, 2006 10:39 pm (#1038 of 2974)

Oh, my! I got Outstanding!!!!!I am not a troll! Wait I don't recall the order, is Exceeds Expectation higher? (maybe I am a troll...walks off, mumbling, shaking head...)

Hogwarts Class of 85 - Apr 7, 2006 11:17 pm (#1039 of 2974)

Exceeds Expectations - cannot believe it! Am hoping that this is the entrance exam for the Hogwarts Adult Education Programme. Have been looking out for an owl with my letter. Nothing yet tho.....

Tazzygirl - Apr 8, 2006 12:15 am (#1040 of 2974)

The levels of scoring are:

Outstanding, Exceeds Expectations, Acceptable, Poor, Dreadful, Troll

So far, everyone has done fantastically!!

Snuffles - Apr 8, 2006 12:53 am (#1041 of 2974)

I haven't checked mine yet Tazzy, still time for someone to get a Troll!!!

I cannot access the Wombat results yet, I will try later!!

Edit: Grrr!, everytime I click on the Wombat letter it comes up with error on page! HELP!!!

Rea - Apr 8, 2006 2:36 am (#1042 of 2974)

What a week! I got an Exceeds Expectation and printed my diploma on pdf, so now I can use it as a desktop theme... And yesterday I got at last my graduation diploma, I was waiting for it since a long time (3 weeks)!!! I'm also glad that Jo's site doesn't include awful photos of us taking the exam, just like my university did... I was terrible during my dissertation.

Winky Woo - Apr 8, 2006 2:38 am (#1043 of 2974)

I got an Exceeds Expectations! I thought that I would get Troll!

Did those who have difficulties with codes get any further? I noticed that the student code is case sensitive so perhaps trying Upper/Lower case combinations? The order of my code if it helps is jLfk4qFttTbKtAggxyYzQ (I've changed the number/a couple of letters but kept the case the same)


Does a happy dance*


Mare - Apr 8, 2006 2:53 am (#1044 of 2974)

Woohoo Outstanding too, but I'm not sure how I did that, actually!

I'm going to print out my certificate and put it up next to some of my other wizarding things. Anyone else planning on doing the same?

I would, if only I had a printer... :pouty face:

Neville Longbottom - Apr 8, 2006 3:02 am (#1045 of 2974)

I got an Outstanding, too. Don't know how this was possible. And yes, the grade of *T* was given. Someone on the mugglenet comments had one and posted his/her code as a prove.

frogface - Apr 8, 2006 4:16 am (#1046 of 2974)

I got an Acceptable, but then I've always been a bit like Neville so I'm pretty pleased that at least I passed!

Phelim Mcintyre - Apr 8, 2006 4:50 am (#1047 of 2974)

I'm having trouble getting on. Definatly a troll.

septentrion - Apr 8, 2006 5:11 am (#1048 of 2974)

congrats to everyone ! As for me, I got an Outstanding ! pure dumb luck, I tell you. And I'm going to print it as well, as soon as I can reach a printer.

Mrs Brisbee - Apr 8, 2006 5:17 am (#1049 of 2974)

I got an Exceeds Expectations! I wish I had my test back with professorial red marks all over it, though. I'd like to know what I got right, and what I had wrong!

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 8, 2006 6:17 am (#1050 of 2974)

OUTSTANDING! I was so sure I was headed for troll.I like the framed certificate in the clock room.How Cool!

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Catherine - Apr 8, 2006 8:32 am (#1051 of 2974)

I got Outstanding!

It must be random--I know I guessed on so many questions. But I'll take my O and run!

HungarianHorntail11 - Apr 8, 2006 9:15 am (#1052 of 2974)

I earned an Acceptable. That is better than I expected (I am certainly not up as I should be on my beasts).

Does anyone know the order of the letter grades?

That was fun.

cindysuewho45 - Apr 8, 2006 9:25 am (#1053 of 2974)

Hi all, Happy to see that everyone is having fun. I got a Exceeds Expectations, I am happy about it, but next time I would love to see a "O". And I see that there will be a next time. "We hope that you will attempt our next, and more difficult, examination in due course." Looks like I will be reading all the books one more time. And,yes,I have printed my certificate.

Eponine - Apr 8, 2006 9:28 am (#1054 of 2974)

Somebody posted the letter for a Troll grade on another site.

This is to certify that you have failed W.O.M.B.A.T. Grade 1 and have been awarded the classification of "Troll."

You would appear either to have abandoned the test due to factors outside your control (e.g., earthquake, poltergeist attack), or else you are a troll, in which case you are to be congratulated on being able to use a computer and have achieved the grade O.F.T. (Outstanding For Trolls)

Good Evans - Apr 8, 2006 10:07 am (#1055 of 2974)

I got Exceeds Expectations, which is dead right as I expected a Troll!!! will work hard to get an O next time!! always room for imrpovement.

well done everyone - I think the Troll cert is funny thanks for posting that Eponine.


frogface - Apr 8, 2006 10:17 am (#1056 of 2974)

HH, I suspect the order goes like this, but this is just a guess based on the O.W.L grade system and the equivalents based on GCSE grades (English muggle version of O.W.L's)

O - Outstanding (Muggle Equivalent would be an A grade)

E - Exceeds Expectations (Muggle B)

A - Acceptable (Muggle C)

P - Poor (Muggle D)

D - Dreadful (Muggle E)

T - Troll (Muggle F)

Mrs. D. - Apr 8, 2006 10:22 am (#1057 of 2974)

Add me to the Exceeds Expectations list!! Woo Hoo! Took the test in about 5 mins off the cuff so I am pretty happy. My 12 yr old son is bummed though as he missed the test. He probably would have had an Outstanding and lorded it over me though, so this is most likely for the best. LOL

kaykay1970 - Apr 8, 2006 10:27 am (#1058 of 2974)

My 12 year old son bested me on the test. But considering that I read the books to him I am happy to know that he was at least paying attention!

Ann - Apr 8, 2006 11:16 am (#1059 of 2974)

Everyone seems so pleased with their grades--but I'm afraid I'm too like Hermione. So humiliating to get only an Exceeds Expectations. I of course went back to the test (the questions with Steve & Belinda's comments are still posted on the Lexicon, just not the screen caps). One question I wonder if I got wrong was number 9:

9. Which of the following wizarding laws, in your view, stands in most urgent need of change?
a. The detection of underage magic in all-magic households (currently impossible)
b. The ban on goblin possession of wands (ought to be lifted)
c. The re-classification of centaurs and merpeople (ought to take their views into account)
d. The guidelines on house-elf welfare (need to be enforced)
e. Definitions of ‘Muggle-baiting’ (needs to be made less stringent)

I thought e; underage magic is, as Dumbledore said, mainly the responsibility of magical parents, I'm a bit dubious about the idea of goblins with wands--I wouldn't call it urgent, although I can see Belinda's point that it might help with the war. Nor would re-classification be urgent, and while it would be nice to enforce house-elf welfare rules, and make Hermione happy, the elves themselves are not complaining, so it didn't seem terribly urgent to me, either. As a Muggle (the question says "in your view" after all), I would think it would be urgent to have the broadest (least stringent) definition of Muggle baiting possible. That is, if Muggle-baiting definitions are currently stringent, and include only the most obviously cruel kinds of activities, they need to be made less so.

What do you all think? And what about some of the other questions?

Hollywand - Apr 8, 2006 11:18 am (#1060 of 2974)

I have to admit I stayed up way too late with Harry and Ron playing Exploding Snap and trading Chocolate Frog card the night before the test, so I am not surprised I earned an "Acceptable" on my exam.

I resolve to prepare for the second, I am headed to the Hogwarts Library right this second....

Thanks, Jo, that was a blast! Wink

zelmia - Apr 8, 2006 11:54 am (#1061 of 2974)

Yeah, Ann. I didn't see how that question could be considered in the grading. Since implicit "in your opinion" is the fact that there is no "wrong" answer.
I wish I could remember how I answered, that one. I believe I chose the Goblins one, since I saw it as a sort of sanctioned racism, but I can't remember.

By the way, I received an Exceeds Expectations - which, to be honest, exceeded my own expectations. So no complaints from me.

LooneyLuna - Apr 8, 2006 12:06 pm (#1062 of 2974)

I got Exceeds Expectations - YaY!

I so thought it would be Troll. Doing a little happy dance.

What great fun. Thanks Jo!

azi - Apr 8, 2006 12:16 pm (#1063 of 2974)

Well, I got Acceptable, which would usually be extremely disappointing, but after the day I've had I couldn't care less. Reality is for once more important! Maybe grade two I'll do the test in 20 minutes instead of 5. **Hopes there's a grade two on it's way!**

Mare - Apr 8, 2006 12:33 pm (#1064 of 2974)

Ann, I answered question number 9 with the house-elves answer. They have the most emphasis in the books, and I read the muggle answer as making the baiting of muggles by purebloods and the like, more possible than it is now.

I'm curious what grades Kip and Belinda had, I answered differently compared to some of their discussions. As an example, I thought the whomping willow was very protective, not because of it's bark, but because it was planted to protect people from (and vice versa) werewolve Lupin.

And I hope we get the correct answers to the test, I want to know what I did wrong or right!

Hollywand - Apr 8, 2006 1:12 pm (#1065 of 2974)

Maybe we could have a study group for Exam 2 !

Gina R Snape - Apr 8, 2006 1:40 pm (#1066 of 2974)

Oh, the Troll response was very funny! I saw the one for Dreadful. It seems no matter how one did on the exam, we will all be taking the second one. I wonder what animal acronym she will use next time.

I just want to know how Steve did, and how 'Hermione' he got if he didnt get an O!

Ann, as for question #9, I chose d. It seems from what we've read that the treatment of house elves is widely varied and not always the kindest. Yet house elves do so much and risk losing so much. Muggle baiting on the other hand seems counter-intuitive to your answer. You'd think making the rules less stringent would lead to a wider net. But I took it to mean that making the laws less stringent would mean less severity, paradoxically making it either easier to bait muggles or less punitive.

The giant squid - Apr 8, 2006 2:23 pm (#1067 of 2974)

I think it's funny how many of us scored so high (O or E) while claiming they thought they'd get a T. Lots of humility in this room...

Lina - Apr 8, 2006 2:44 pm (#1068 of 2974)

I'm not sure about random, Catherine. The first time I took the test, I got an E. The second time I used the dictionary and the Lexicon and got an O! ***doing the happy dance***

Julie, I'm not surprised about your grade. You said that you did bad, and E is bad for you.

Ann, I answered to the 9th question with c. The re-classification of centaurs and merepeople (ought to take their views into account). I think that having advices from them would be helpful in a war. But it doesn't mean I'm right. You could probably have some wrong answers to get an O anyway.

And for the 21st question(Which of the following commonly held Wizarding beliefs is actually true?) I answered c. Releasing a Portkey before it has arrived will result in death or serious injury. I still don't understand why Steve and Belinda didn't take this in consideration?

Hollywand, I like your idea of the study group, but it seems that we already have one here.

And, yes, Mike, I've noticed the humility too. On the other boards I saw posts saying Oh, how could I have done it so bad, I got an E!

I don't say anything. I have just printed my certificate and will take it to the work to show off!

Dobby Socks - Apr 8, 2006 2:58 pm (#1069 of 2974)

Ann, I interpreted Muggle baiting in the same way Gina and Mare did. And I picked the house elf answer, my rationale being that the Ministry is not known for laws showing much fairness to “lesser creatures” in the community. So, if they already have a code for house elf treatment, it’s probably insufficient. The least they can do is ensure it’s being followed.

Mare, I was also thinking of the use of the word “protective” as applying to the Whomping Willow, even though, intuitively, it didn’t seem to fit with the rest. In retrospect, maybe it mostly protects itself and it’s rare for it to be planted for the purposes that we saw at Hogwarts. The Alihotsy shrub I don’t remember hearing about and Belladonna is something I relate to our world. I thought it could be either of those, but I picked the Venomous Tentacula.

I’m wondering what people picked for the “suspiciously acting dog” question. I chose patronus for the same reasons Steve did. When I read Belinda’s answer her way of thinking about it made much more sense to me. Ah well.

I’d also like to know how the tests were graded (how many points for which answers.)

Lina, wish I would’ve thought to take the exam twice! Well, I thought I’d do badly so I’m still happy with my “A.” There’s always next time.

Aqualu Nifey - Apr 8, 2006 5:14 pm (#1070 of 2974)

AaaaaaaaaHhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! I can't type in my student ID! I've tried it about seventy-three times now and it says it's not right. Can anyone please, pretty please with every flavor beans on top help me?!!

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 8, 2006 5:25 pm (#1071 of 2974)

6. Which of the following should be most SEVERELY punished by the Wizengamot?

a. The injury of three Muggles due to a poorly performed Forgetfulness Charm;
b. The death of a chicken due to a poorly aimed Bat-Bogey Hex
c. The use of the Cruciatus curse on a shark about to attack a Muggle
d. The use of the Imperious curse on a Muggle mugger

Answer a reminded me of Bertha Jorkins who was subject to such an incident by her supervisor Barty Crouch Sr. Answer b reminded me of Ginny Weasley while possessed by Tom Riddle she caused death of several roosters and has master the Bat Bogey Hex Answer c teminded that Viktor Krum attempted to transfigure him into Shark for the second task and Viktor Krum used the Cruciatus Curse on Cedric Diggory during the third task. answer d. I can't find a connection an example in the books for.

Hollywand - Apr 8, 2006 5:34 pm (#1072 of 2974)

Aqualu, the code is letter case sensitive. I had a challenge as well getting the program to accept my code because I misread one of my lower case letters as upper case. Once I got the cases correct, it accepted the id. Good luck. Where did I leave that Rememberall......

Aqualu Nifey - Apr 8, 2006 6:27 pm (#1073 of 2974)

Thanks, Hollywand, but I already tried every possible translation in every possible case of what I wrote down as my ID. *sigh*tears* I'll try again later.

Nathan, I think it would have to be D since it involves an Unforgiveable Curse on another human, though if not D, it would probably be A since it involves the injury of muggles due to a charm.

...Though, then again, don't trust me, for all I know I got a T on the Wombat.

Viola Intonada - Apr 8, 2006 7:11 pm (#1074 of 2974)

I got an "Exceeds Expectations", I'm happy.

Aqualu, I had lots of problems with my ID also. My code starts with "l". Since this could be either a capital i, #1, or a lowercase L depending on the style of font, it took me awhile to figure out that it was indeed a lowercase L. Good luck!

Pigwidgeon - Apr 8, 2006 7:58 pm (#1075 of 2974)

Aqualu -- I had the same problem. It turned out the character I thought was a zero was a capital letter O.

bella - Apr 8, 2006 8:23 pm (#1076 of 2974)

As for me I'm pretty sure I'm up the creek for this one. I tried every combination for what I had written close to three or four times, and 3 hours later still nothing.My only hope is that those of us that didn't get to write or, had issues with copying out the ID get a chance to write the second time around.

HungarianHorntail11 - Apr 8, 2006 9:25 pm (#1077 of 2974)

Thank you frogface!

There will be another test? Is it written somewhere on JKR's site? Next time I will be sure to take it before 1 a.m. and not rush through it. Though I thought I would surely end up with my large green buddy and a wand up my nose.

Aqualu Nifey - Apr 8, 2006 10:32 pm (#1078 of 2974)

Yeah, I'm with you, Bella. Though I'm a little worried, from what everyone's said, you only get to take the next test if you passed the first one. I dunno.

Mrs. Sirius - Apr 8, 2006 10:55 pm (#1079 of 2974)

I too answered question 9 with the house elves with the rational that Hermione is correct in her assessment of their situation. But Hermione with the exception of Dumbledore is not given enough credit for her view. Also the muggle baiting law to be made less stringent reminds me of Sirius' dear cousin who wanted to make muggle hunting legal (reading OoTP to kids now).

I printed both my id code and certificate and keep them safely stored with my Quiddich and Fantastic Beasts.

Melly - Apr 9, 2006 1:02 am (#1080 of 2974)

I have tried everything but my code is still not being accepted. If anyone is really bored and wants to try and work it out as well feel free to have a crack (nudge, nudge, wink, wink!)!


Do you think for the people who can't use their code that we'll still be able to do level 2? Or that JKR will give a code so that everyone in this predicament can access further? I really hope she does because as much as I know it's my own stupid fault there must be plenty of people in the same boat as myself or people out there who just couldn't take the test because the door was only open for about four days which is a very short time.

Good Evans - Apr 9, 2006 3:28 am (#1081 of 2974)

Ann - I answered that the centaurs and merpeople laws should be changed. It is as everyone has said, personal opinion, but this to me seems to be the most urgent in order to unite the magical and wizarding communities in order to fight LV. We have already seen that by using law against the ginats - they hate wizards and have aligned themselves with LV. I shudder to think the centaurs may do the same if LV convinces them he alone will give them rights and recognition. This was the thought behind my plumping for that answer on the Q - as Lina says some people will have got an O without being 100% - I got an E and we both answered this in the same way - it may or may not be the right answer. We could both have been right or both wrong!

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 9, 2006 6:08 am (#1082 of 2974)

In the fan sites room there is an award to the left that is only partially shown in which the last four letters are.. rtis. Does anyone know who this person can be? I assume it is the persons last name.

Melly,I would think that you would get a new code # after taking a future exam.Just answer no at the beginning when it asks if you have an I.D.#.

Phelim Mcintyre - Apr 9, 2006 8:35 am (#1083 of 2974)

Melly, I'm with you. My code is not being accepted and I've no idea what I've got.

Lina - Apr 9, 2006 8:50 am (#1084 of 2974)

Oh, I'm really sorry for you guys that can not get the code accepted. Maybe some enlightening charms will help you. Appart from confusing l, 1 and I and O and 0, from my experience I know that people use to confuse 6 and G as well. Hopefully that helps. (you Melly seem to have a little bit many Gs)

Now I really start wondering how many points were needed to get an O. Maybe she really took the best exam and that was the maximum points instead of 100. I would really like to see which answer brought how many points. There is a possibility that there were more answers with 4 points for some questions, but I believe that there were answers with 3, 2 or 1 point too.

Anyhow, it was really fun taking that test as well as talking about it afterwards. Thanks Jo!

Ginerva Potter - Apr 9, 2006 10:39 am (#1085 of 2974)

Melly - Did you get it yet?

I think I might have it cracked if you still need it.


Caius Iulius - Apr 9, 2006 11:07 am (#1086 of 2974)

I can't get in, Wombat will not allow my enter code. I have tried everything, O and 0, l and 1 and i, don't know what to do now. Can anyone help please? My code is f18SwV4TP2lJpN8tNl0Lx

Finn BV - Apr 9, 2006 11:13 am (#1087 of 2974)

What I would do for next time is copy the code straight out of the page when she gives it to you and paste it into a document; then when you need your code later copy is straight from where you pasted it. I never ended up typing my code, it was always copy and pasted from one place to another.

Caius, I may have cracked it. I got f18SwV4TP2lJpN8tN10Lx changing the last lower case l (as in land) to a #1. In which case, you got an "O"! Congratulations!

Caius Iulius - Apr 9, 2006 11:30 am (#1088 of 2974)

Oops, I will go and check again. Thanks Finn!

I have just checked and it came trough. I thought I had tried all possibilities. Strange. Finn, excellent work. Thanks again.

Finn BV - Apr 9, 2006 11:39 am (#1089 of 2974)

No problem Caius. And hey, it may not be yours, but it's nice to see the O there, huh?

Ann - Apr 9, 2006 12:52 pm (#1090 of 2974)

Madam Pomfrey, I read the name on the award at the left of the Fan Sites Page as o/u t t i a/s. It could be something as ordinary as Curtis or as ominous a Mortia. There's one to the far right as well, where the name begins Pa. Maybe JKR has a friend named Patricia Curtis? Or perhaps that's the name of the person at Lightmaker who designed the page.

I wonder--lots of people took the test several times. If it turns out that you can only take the test if you've already got a student number, perhaps those of us who did can make the unused numbers available to those who need them? We can all post our spare number(s) if it turns out that the test requires it (not otherwise, lest we gum up this thread).

Ydnam96 - Apr 9, 2006 1:56 pm (#1091 of 2974)

Wooo hooo, I got Exceeds Expectations! Where does that fall in the scale?

Finn BV - Apr 9, 2006 1:57 pm (#1092 of 2974)

Mandy, that's the second best grade and middle passing grade. The scores go (passing) Oustanding, Exceeds Expectations, Acceptable, (failing) Poor, Dreadful, Troll.

Caius Iulius - Apr 9, 2006 2:19 pm (#1093 of 2974)

Finn, it might not be my score indeed. LOL.

I am hoping it is though.

zelmia - Apr 9, 2006 2:51 pm (#1094 of 2974)

I thought the exam was fun, but like all exams, I enjoy being able to see what answers I gave and how they scored. I can't really remember much about it after I've finished.

Lina - Apr 9, 2006 3:02 pm (#1095 of 2974)

Now, we were talking about the exam in the chat room tonight and noticed something interesting. For those of us who were in the chat room, the grade of the exam was proportional to the time that we spent on it. So how much time did you spend? Does it go something like 5 minutes - A, 15 minutes - E and 25 minutes - O?

Gina R Snape - Apr 9, 2006 3:20 pm (#1096 of 2974)

Hey, I was watching CNN and they mentioned Jo! Actually, they talked about skinny women in the media and how Jo ranted about it on her website. They read bits of what she wrote, breaking back and forth with a nutritionist on camera saying "She's right..." and of course commentary and blips of some skinny famous young women.

I had one of those geeky moments, seeing as how WE in the fandom knew about it already.

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 9, 2006 3:26 pm (#1097 of 2974)

Thanks for the feedback Ann. I was hoping for a Potter character that was overlooked but I cant think of anyone whose name ends with tis or rtis.

Finn BV - Apr 9, 2006 3:32 pm (#1098 of 2974)

Gina, I heard about that too. My mom said that both the skinny women deal as well as not being able to find paper in Edinburgh have been giving reporters lots of topic matter!! Guess there's not much in the news lately if we have to resort to the fact that paper cannot be bought in Edinburgh!

Ooh, Lina, I spent 10 minutes actually *doing* the exam, and got an A, but I checked it over for another ten and then finished. Hmm…

Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 9, 2006 3:48 pm (#1099 of 2974)

Two scenarios concerning the W.O.M.B.A.T. exam occurred to me:

Scenario 1: Is it possible that the W.O.M.B.A.T. exams will be structured in the same way as the Hogwarts exams are with the fifth years taking O.W.L.S. and the seventh years sitting for N.E.W.T.S. with revelations coming after the fifth and seventh exam.

Scenario 2: Or is it possible that the W.O.M.B.A.T.S. are the exams that people like Aurors take during their three years of post Hogwarts training, and that a revelation will come after the third exam?

Gina R Snape - Apr 9, 2006 3:53 pm (#1100 of 2974)

What do you mean by revelations, Nathan?

I think she's just given the fans something to do, that makes us feel like we are part of the wizarding world. I don't personally foresee anything coming out of these exams except some discussions about the questions, squeals and moans over results, and entertainment whilst taking the exams themselves. (And distraction from constantly asking "are you finished with book 7 yet )

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Nathan Zimmermann - Apr 9, 2006 4:04 pm (#1101 of 2974)

Gina, by revelations, I mean items such the title of book seven, perhaps, a note saying that book seven has been submitted to Scholastic and Bloomsbury for publication or the name of new character.

Eponine - Apr 9, 2006 4:06 pm (#1102 of 2974)

Lina, I only spent about 5 minutes or so taking the test, and I got an O.

I hope that something is revealed after the final test. The title of 7 would be nice.

As for how many tests we'll take, some other people were discussing the fact that there's not enough space on the walls for 7 certificates, so we were thinking there might only be 3 or so tests.

Gina R Snape - Apr 9, 2006 4:30 pm (#1103 of 2974)

Nathan, I would love to get the title of book 7 as the "prize" after the quizzes! I wonder when she'll announce it. I rather suspect she's had the name (much like the last paragraph) all along.

And Eponine, I agree. 7 certificates would look a bit crowded on the wall next to the clock. I hadn't really thought about how many quizzes we might sit, or about the space available on the wall. Then again, people who don't pass a given exam don't get a certificate, just a letter.

Oh well, however many we get will be a treat.

Finn BV - Apr 9, 2006 5:35 pm (#1104 of 2974)

I was thinking about the number of certificates too. I thought that 2 shelves=2 quizzes, but you never know.

And if we don't get a title, a new character would be just as nice!!

Gina R Snape - Apr 9, 2006 5:43 pm (#1105 of 2974)

Do you think there will be any new characters introduced in the last book, Finn? I'm more inclined to believe we will see recurring characters with new information on them since she's wrapping things up.

Finn BV - Apr 9, 2006 5:44 pm (#1106 of 2974)

Ehhhh… good point Gina, perhaps not any major ones, but I'd be pretty surprised if Harry doesn't meet somebody new along the way, whether it's at GH, destroying Horcruxes, or at the Battle with Voldy.

If not a major character, how about the names of three minor ones??

Gina R Snape - Apr 10, 2006 12:49 am (#1107 of 2974)

Ann - Apr 9, 2006 7:07 pm (#1108 of 2974)

She said, I think, in an interview (I know, I should look it up) that there wouldn't be any completely new major characters (on the level of Tonks, Luna, or Slughorn, I assume), but some of the characters we've only heard a little about are going to play larger roles (*cough*Aberforth*cough*). I suppose there could be some interesting new minor characters. I mean, Scrimgeour was revealed, and he turned out to be pretty minor in the end.

I agree with Gina (was it? last page--boy, I'm lazy this evening) that the main point of the W.O.M.B.A.T. exams is to keep us involved. By the way, I don't think the next exam will have a different animal name--it'll just be Grade 2. After all, it says W.O.M.B.A.T. on the I.D. card, and I wouldn't think there'd be a different one (to get into the same clock room). Also, why would they have a Grade 1 if there isn't a Grade 2... and maybe a Grade 3, but I can't imagine there'd be more than that.

Gina R Snape - Apr 9, 2006 7:18 pm (#1109 of 2974)

Good point, Ann. I guess I was thinking we have OWLs and NEWTs and now WOMBATs, what other animals? But she wouldn't put a WOMBAT card on her desktop and give the next exam another name.

Tazzygirl - Apr 9, 2006 9:08 pm (#1110 of 2974)

I was sitting and watching the main page of Jo's site just now, seeing if anything else would pop up when Peeves flies through... Has anyone noticed that the watch down at the bottom of the screen lights up green and then the hands spin super fast, which then turns into a bunch of hands. I clicked on it like mad, but nothing happened. Thought it was pretty cool...

riotgrrrl - Apr 9, 2006 9:30 pm (#1111 of 2974)

Tazzy-I think the watch has done that for a time (at least it did last time I was in the room long enough for Peeves). Congratulations to everyone on all of the wonderful test scores. I got an A which means that instead of reading some of the other many books that have been piling up on my shelves(I'll read it after this round of Harry Potter), that I'll be reviewing them again. Not that I'm complaining.

Lina - Apr 9, 2006 10:55 pm (#1112 of 2974)

Thanks Finn and Eponine, that makes my theory wrong which I feel very comfortable about. I wouldn't really like the grade to depend on time. It was obviously just a coincidence for us in the chat room.

I do think that she is giving us those test(s) so that we would have more material to talk about. I would still like to see the points (I mean their number in each answer).

I think we already know what are the two shelves about - the certificate is above one of them and the failing letter is on the second one. I'm not sure that the next results will stay in the same room. I believe that we will be taking next tests independently from the first one, so that people who didn't take the test or failed the first one can still take the next one. But maybe with he next test(s) there will be more light in the room?

Melly - Apr 10, 2006 12:07 am (#1113 of 2974)

Ginerva Potter if you have it it would be fantastic! I'm completely hopeless with these sorts things! With the next test (if I can even take it) I will definetly print it AND copy and paste it so I'll be safe!

gusmania - Apr 10, 2006 4:55 am (#1114 of 2974)

I would like to reply on Ann's message: "Scrimgeour was revealed, and he turned out to be pretty minor in the end."

But the description of Scrimgeour was just a clue:

" Rufus Scrimgeour looked rather like an old lion. There were streaks of grey in his mane of tawny hair and his bushy eyebrows; he had keen yellowish eyes behind a pair of wire-rimmed spectacles and a certain rangy, loping grace even though he walked with a slight limp" HBP p21

I believe this was mend to remind us on the sphinx, from the triwizard tournament, that has a body of a lion. I do believe Rowling repeats everything from the triwizard tournament in book 5 and 6:

Harry takes the egg of a dragon - Harry takes the prophecy Harry thinks he has to rescue Ron - Harry thinks he has to rescue Sirius Harry discovers that the dementor in the maze is just a boggart, and thus not very dangerous - Dumbledore discovers that Harry processed by Voldemort is not that dangerous ( although it was the thing that Dumbledore feared the most) Sphinx - Scrimgeour

All this information could have given you a better idea of what was going to happen in the HBP.

There is something that drew my attention on Rowling's web site lately: the fact that she is using the death- eaters sign. The skull and the snake. I think it means something. My guess: with the sign Voldemort wants to make the statement that everybody is mortal except him because he has his horcruxes protected, you can only take those horcruxes if you can speak to snakes.

Ginerva Potter - Apr 10, 2006 5:57 am (#1115 of 2974)

Melly - Sorry, I just got your post. The ID is 7ykKXGSG4pd1zVR7kCGFp.

The first k is lowercase and you had it uppercase originally. It's possible it's not your code though, but I got it to work.


Lina - Apr 10, 2006 6:53 am (#1116 of 2974)

Gusmania, your theory about the Triwizard tournament is very interesting, maybe it deserves a thread of it's own.

While about the DE sign that is showing over some questions or answers, that was described in her first explanation, that we have the Diary now instead, and there she wrote that the spoiler answers or questions would be hidden with that sign so that people who hadn't read the last book would be warned. I hope I managed to explain what I wanted.

Ann - Apr 10, 2006 8:37 am (#1117 of 2974)

Lina, I'm sure you're right, and the test didn't depend on time except indirectly--people who took more time and checked through the books and the Lexicon and so forth probably did better on average.

I suspect the phenomenon you discovered in the chat room actually means only that (in the immediacy of a chat room) people who did well on the test are willing to admit spending more time on it than people who did badly. I mean, is anyone really going to admit spending the full 25 minutes and getting a Dreadful? Not that anyone did. I'm reminded of a friend at Stanford who once told me that, if you can't get an A on a test, it's important to have a really good tan--as if you'd spent all your study time at the beach, and could have done better if you'd wanted to.

Mattew Bates - Apr 10, 2006 2:24 pm (#1118 of 2974)

I'm too used to getting good grades. I had a Hermione moment of disappointment when I saw that I "Exceed Expectations."

Finn BV - Apr 10, 2006 5:13 pm (#1119 of 2974)

For those of you who couldn't get your Grade 1 grades, I have good news! I checked the MN comments and found the code of somebody who got Dreadful. Take a look at the screenshot of the letter here. You will see that, even if you failed, you can still take the grade 2 WOMBAT, so everything should be fine!

Gina R Snape - Apr 10, 2006 7:00 pm (#1120 of 2974)

Yeah, I saw that too Finn. It's pretty funny, isn't it? Well, I guess it wouldn't be so funny if you were the one getting a Dreadful grade!

Melly - Apr 10, 2006 8:54 pm (#1121 of 2974)

Thanks somuch Ginerva Potter!


Winky Woo - Apr 11, 2006 3:23 pm (#1122 of 2974)

Hey Guys there is a fun question on the HP Trivia thread at the moment about Jo's site.... take a peek!


The Weaslys - Apr 12, 2006 12:26 pm (#1123 of 2974)

Hi people! Has anyone had this particular scenario with the WOMBAT scores? We typed in the ID code and everything was okay.....but time was passing and passing, so we got impatient and decided to resubmit the code. Now we can't get in anymore. It tells us we have to try again because our ID isn't recogonized. Rats!!! How long did it take for some of you to get your scores once you typed in the code?

The Weaslys - Apr 12, 2006 1:10 pm (#1124 of 2974)

Well, now I feel silly. After looking over some of the other posts dealing with problems getting grades I was inspired to try again. Turns out I needed to change a lower case L to a 1. We got an E! Most importantly though we can take the next test and see where it leads! Does anyone have any thoughts on what the two dripping bottles next to the door might be for? We noticed you can drag them over the plant to drip potion out onto the plant, but it doesn't seem to accomplish anything.

Lina - Apr 12, 2006 1:50 pm (#1125 of 2974)

The Weaslys, those bottles are needed for getting one of the Easter eggs. You will find the instructions on the radio on the "extra stuff" page.

Finn BV - Apr 12, 2006 6:31 pm (#1126 of 2974)

Or, The Weaslys, if you're feeling a bit tired and don't want to figure out what to do for yourself, you can just venture to our own Lexicon Forum Ultimate Guide to Jo's Web Site Tips Page.

John Bumbledore - Apr 12, 2006 8:34 pm (#1127 of 2974)

Yes, The Weaslys, Finn BV seems to be a frequent visitor of the Ultimate Guide to Jo's Web Site Tips Page. LOL But it apparently did help him much. LOL

I prefer the more complete listing at HPL: Guide to jkrowling.com - Scrapbook which is also on the Harry Potter Lexicon.

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Madam Pince - Apr 12, 2006 11:41 pm (#1128 of 2974)

I finally just got around to checking my score -- I got an E. Much better than I expected because I just took it off the cuff and a lot of those questions seemed to be "in your opinion" type of deals, so I don't see how it could really be a test. I guessed on so many of them, and lots of them I felt could have more than one answer. But hey, I'll take it! I would really like to see how the questions were graded, though.

Gaaaack.... this is just like being in school again -- obsessing over the test after it's OVER and DONE WITH!

Finn BV - Apr 13, 2006 7:22 am (#1129 of 2974)

::::winks back to John ::::

I was just trying to help!! At least I'm not going to add anything more to my Trivia response! **goes down to see if John's put in the answers**

skh - Apr 13, 2006 8:23 am (#1130 of 2974)

well, I got an "A" - as I didn't have a clue and did a lot of guessing, am pleased that my reading of the Lexicon and forum pages has obviously caused SOME useful info to sink in!

Ann - Apr 14, 2006 7:01 pm (#1131 of 2974)

Just a thought, as I was checking the site, as I've been doing twice a day, not wanting to miss the chance to improve upon the "E" I got on my W.O.M.B.A.T.s Grade 1. But it occurs to me that, now that we know that a second exam is coming, what do you want to bet she puts it up in June, when the Hogwarts students are taking their O.W.L.s and N.E.W.T.s? I can see a certain logic to that. So perhaps I ought to check it only once a day until then, huh?

Gina R Snape - Apr 15, 2006 8:52 am (#1132 of 2974)

That would be cool. I just hope we don't have to wait 7 weeks like the Hogwarts students for our results!

TwinklingBlueEyes - Apr 15, 2006 4:55 pm (#1133 of 2974)

Ann, by all means keep checking twice a day. It will not only be healthy for your obsession, it will mean I only have to check once a day!

June would be cool, but I'd rather have a Mother's Day present...

...toddles off elsewhere...

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 16, 2006 7:57 am (#1134 of 2974)

Ann,thats a good guess.That would give us plenty of study time but of course,like TBE,I'd love that for a mother's day present.

Good Evans - Apr 17, 2006 7:27 am (#1135 of 2974)

Mothers day in the UK has been and gone (it was March) - so i doubt that JKR will be able to oblige (as she isn't likely to know when it is)

But I agree it would be great to have one before June, but we will just have to be patient and practice constant vigilence on her site.

I showed a friend of mine the certificate and she was jealous as she only goes on the site occasionally and missed the door opening!!! next time I have to tell her the test is there!!!

Linedhel - Apr 18, 2006 11:55 am (#1136 of 2974)

Hi again! I just wonder if the next test(s) will be even more difficult...I hope not so difficult.I liked the way she put the questions a lot, but I'd also like to know, from her, the right answers to the questions. And I do hope the second part will be soon...

journeymom - Apr 18, 2006 12:59 pm (#1137 of 2974)

Okay, please forgive me. I'm relatively new to JKR's site. I've found a bunch of neat certificates. I'd like to take the WOMBAT test but don't have a student ID. Would I get that behind the door, which of course has a Do Not Disturb sign currently? I've been skimming through this thread trying to get an idea how it worked. Did you all take 'Round 1' and will there be another chance to take the test in the future? Or am I simply missing something?

And is the coffee cup supposed to do something? It did once, but maybe not now?

How about the spinning top in the rubbish bin page?

Madame Pomfrey - Apr 18, 2006 1:07 pm (#1138 of 2974)

Welcome to the forum,Journeymom.The W.O.M.B.A.T. test is over but we are expecting test 2 when the door opens again.I don't think you need to complete test 1 in order to take test 2 and you will be provided an I.D. # when test 2 is taken.

If you spin the coffee cup around 4 times(I think) it will make a circle-click on it then go to Extras and click on the card that says CIRCLE and you will get a certificate.The spinning top has no value as of yet.

oh,also there are currently 12 certificates available on her site that is automatically added to your scrap book as you get them.

journeymom - Apr 18, 2006 1:26 pm (#1139 of 2974)

THANK YOU! I will now wait patiently (hah!) for Test 2.

journeymom - Apr 18, 2006 1:36 pm (#1140 of 2974)

How about the egg shells on the rubbish bin page? I clicked on them and they're gone, but perhaps they're part of a certificate I haven't solved yet? I have 8.

Amilia Smith - Apr 18, 2006 1:45 pm (#1141 of 2974)

Yes, the eggshells are part of a potion. To see what the rest of the ingredients are that you will need for your certificate, break the pen on the left hand side of the rubbish bin.


Madame Pomfrey - Apr 18, 2006 2:47 pm (#1142 of 2974)

Your Welcome,Journeymom.Have you tried dialing the phone numbers yet?

journeymom - Apr 18, 2006 4:50 pm (#1143 of 2974)

Look at that! The pen breaks. I noticed those porcupine quills! Now to find- a pile of stones? In my search for the round objects (oval bubbles?) I finally found Jo's editorial rant "For Girls Only". Right on.

Yes, I dialed the phone number and got I don't remember which certificate. =)

Neville Longbottom - Apr 19, 2006 1:25 am (#1144 of 2974)

There are currently three phone numbers which work. One is a number mentioned in one of the books, one is a character and the third one is related to JKR. Alltogether there are twelve special extras you can get, some of them more difficult than others. There are a lot of hints in this thread. *g*

Susan Bones - Apr 19, 2006 8:47 am (#1145 of 2974)

Hi journeymom. Did you know that there is an "Ultimate Guide" to the JK Rowling site on the Lexicon? It has almost everything you'd want to know about the site up until now, including how to find the 12 certificates. You can also see what happened during all the previous door openings. There is a link to it on the Lexicon home page, just under the pictures of all the books. Have fun!

journeymom - Apr 19, 2006 8:54 am (#1146 of 2974)

Thank you!

Ann - Apr 19, 2006 11:52 am (#1147 of 2974)

And, last I checked, you can still find the questions (though not the screen caps) for the W.O.M.B.A.T.s there.

cindysuewho45 - Apr 21, 2006 9:18 pm (#1148 of 2974)

Hi all, when do you think she will give us more W.O.M.B.A.T. test, info., fun etc.. I know that easter would more than likly be to soon, but I would love to see more. It helps the time go by until the next book.

Emily - Apr 22, 2006 8:02 am (#1149 of 2974)

I think you're probably right, the Orthodox church's Easter will probably be too soon, unfortunately cindysuewho45. I'm thinking it will be in a couple weeks, but your guess is as good as mine!

skh - Apr 26, 2006 2:33 am (#1150 of 2974)

I was just re-collecting all my easter eggs (as my PC was rebuilt) and I noticed something... When you get the 1994 draft from Philosopher's Stone, she mentions "note how Draco's name used to be Spungen". Now, I've read the sheet, and I can't see that anywhere - is it possible to turn the sheet over to reveal more or something? If so, how do I do that, coz I simply can't manage it!!

Or did I just read too quickly and miss it?

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kaykay1970 - Apr 26, 2006 5:51 am (#1151 of 2974)

You must have just overlooked it. It is there..

Madam Pince - Apr 26, 2006 7:27 am (#1152 of 2974)

If I remember correctly, when I read it the first time I was confused, too -- I think maybe the "Spungen" reference is on a different page than the one that first comes up after you read JKR's comment, or something? Try looking around at one of the other pages that came up with the same set of Easter eggs maybe. I'm just guessing here, but what you said rang a bell with me, skh.

Mare - Apr 26, 2006 8:10 am (#1153 of 2974)

Me too, I just thought it was in the parts that I find hard to read. And thus I thought I had missed it.

John Bumbledore - Apr 26, 2006 9:08 am (#1154 of 2974)

SKH et al,

It all depends on which of the three pages you are talking about.

Let me see, the three pages are:
First, a "Very early page of Philosopher's Stone"
hand written page from the first group of rewards;
second, a "Very early draft of Philosopher's Stone (Page 2)"
typed page from the newest group of rewards;
third, a "Very early draft of Philosopher's Stone (Page 1)"
typed page also from the newest group of rewards.
Of the newest rewards (added March 9, 2006) there were two draft pages of Philosopher's Stone and the one called "Page 2" appears to come first and "Page 1" seems to be the following page. They both have the same description in the scrapbook, but only "Page 2" includes "Draco Spungen." The description is:

"Another page very early draft (around 1994) of Philosophers Stone – note that Draco's surname used to be 'Spungen'!"

So, that should now be as clear as mud.

From the Lexicon
"It appears that the two scrapbook pages Very early draft of Philosophers Stone (Page 2) & (Page 1) may have been labeled backwards." Lexicon, Page Editor, Belinda Hobbs

Very early draft of Philosophers Stone (Page 2)

Paragraph four:
"Ah, yes, Potter," he said. "Dr. Flitwick Our new -ah- celebrity." Draco Spungen snorted loudly and Harry flushed with anger."
And then there was Snape, who taught potions (in a)

Very early draft of Philosophers Stone (Page 1)

large and gloomy dungeon, lined with glass jars. Some held brilliant, jewel-coloured liquids, others, pickled roots and (various) bits of ani creatures.

<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

Madam Pince - Apr 26, 2006 12:03 pm (#1155 of 2974)

Thanks, John! That was it -- I remember now. The two different pages both had the exact same description by JKR, but only one of the pages actually had the "Spungeon" reference. I read the one that didn't first, so I was confused just like skh.

kaykay1970 - Apr 26, 2006 12:56 pm (#1156 of 2974)

In my scrapbook the (Draco Spungen snorted loudly...) part is on the first page which starts with a partial paragraph(...large and gloomy dungeon...) My second page is in Quirrel's classroom and doesn't mention Draco(except for in the JKR page description that is the same for both pages). Plus all of my pages are handwritten. Hmmm... Maybe some changes were made to correct the error of which order the pages are supposed to be.

John Bumbledore - Apr 26, 2006 1:24 pm (#1157 of 2974)

My mistake, Kaykay1970, they are all hand written. I must have mistaken the Lexicon's transcription for the actual reward image.

<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

skh - Apr 27, 2006 1:42 am (#1158 of 2974)

Thaks guys - I have it now! I actually remember this now from the first time round I got all the eggs, being confused and seeing it on the other page with same description - obviously I was brighter back then than I am now!!

Sarah K-H

Thora - Apr 30, 2006 4:08 pm (#1159 of 2974)

I think this is the new Wizard of the Month, or is it last months?

Fabius Watkins 1940 - 1975 Legendary Captain and Chaser of Montrose Magpies. Died in freak collision with helicopter.

Healing charms to the Lexicon.

Finn BV - Apr 30, 2006 7:40 pm (#1160 of 2974)

Yeah, I was wondering about that – it still says 4-30 as the date.

Amilia Smith - Apr 30, 2006 10:56 pm (#1161 of 2974)

I think the date changes with the date/clock your computer is set to, but the new wizard of the month loads at midnight GMT. I think.

Very interesting about the helicopter crash . . .


Thora - May 1, 2006 4:02 am (#1162 of 2974)

Well I was going to just open another window and check the Lexicon but.... sniff, I'm missing a chunk of my world.

Where is Montrose anyway?

Off to research.


Edit: There it is, half way between Aberdeen and Dundee on the easter coast of Scotland. It' well north of Edinburgh. Interesting neighborhood, if you use the MSN aerial maps you'll see how beautiful it is.

Elfcat - May 5, 2006 9:41 am (#1163 of 2974)

I'm a bit behind on the website and I see I have missed a ton of stuff. Anybody care to throw me some clues as to the new Easter eggs?

haymoni - May 5, 2006 9:45 am (#1164 of 2974)

I believe you can find that info in the beginning of the thread or by going to The Lexicon.

(I haven't gotten the new things yet either!)

Finn BV - May 5, 2006 3:26 pm (#1165 of 2974)

Elfcat, start here and go on down to read the rest.

Dobby Socks - May 5, 2006 3:48 pm (#1166 of 2974)


When they say swirl the teacup at least 4 times, they mean it. I wasted at least an hour on the site trying to swirl it exactly 4 times, and became so frustrated that I even threw in a counterclockwise swirl. Lol. Just swirl it clockwise about 10 times, let go of it, and you should see the circle.

Thora - May 6, 2006 8:23 am (#1167 of 2974)

Threw in a counter-clockwise swirl, now that's something only a true potty would do... to bad they didn't set it up that way... what was it one counter-clockwise every seventh time? Man I need my books.


Dobby Socks - May 6, 2006 4:20 pm (#1168 of 2974)

Lol, Thora! "True Potty"... I think that's the best compliment I've received in a while. It was actually "add a clockwise stir after every seventh counterclockwise stir." Ah well. And I agree -- would've been pretty neat if they set it up to reference HBP.

Hope you get your books back soon! (Are they leant out or just out of reach for the moment?)


Jack.Bumbledore - May 8, 2006 8:41 am (#1169 of 2974)

"Threw in a counter-clockwise swirl, now that's something only a true potty would do... to bad they didn't set it up that way... what was it one counter-clockwise every seventh time? " - Thora

Something only a true potty would do and something only a true potty would know.

Check out John.Bumbledore Post #843 on March 13. I though that I had read those instructions in a earlier post, apparently it was the first thing Bumbledore tried.

I, however, can confirm that it can be done with just three slow, smooth clock-wise swirls

Jack Potter

P.S. Maybe Thora and John.Bumbledore should get the HBP award for innovative potion making?

zelmia - May 8, 2006 9:22 am (#1170 of 2974)

"Counter clockwise swirl" actually reminds me of Seinfeld, but that's completely off-topic.

haymoni - May 8, 2006 9:52 am (#1171 of 2974)

"Not that there's anything wrong with that!!!"

journeymom - May 9, 2006 12:27 pm (#1172 of 2974)

No bad jokes for you. Come back one year.

Mare - May 10, 2006 4:45 am (#1173 of 2974)

New diary update, the paper problem is sufficiently solved, new rumours section, new news....

Go look!

Ann - May 10, 2006 5:46 am (#1174 of 2974)

There's also a reaction to an editorial accusing JKR of making fat people evil (because of the Dursleys) on the Rubbish page. And the plural of Horcrux is Horcruxes (duh). No update of the FAQ poll, unfortunately, and no Level Two Wombat exam (though there's a note about the grading). But I suppose that gives us something to look forward to. And she says she's typed another half chapter, and was having trouble with house-elves. I suppose book 7 gives us something to look forward to, too.

Finn BV - May 10, 2006 7:27 am (#1175 of 2974)

Wow! This is quite the update! Thanks Jo!

PS I'll see you in New York!

Mrs. D. - May 10, 2006 7:55 am (#1176 of 2974)

So funny that she mentions the house elves when just last night I posted about them. I really hope the next wombats are not June 11 - 16 as I will out of town. Please Jo, PLEASE not then! I love the that she updated again so soon! A thousand Thank Yous Jo!

haymoni - May 10, 2006 8:14 am (#1177 of 2974)

Haven't gone to her site yet - dementors at work - so what else would be the plural of "horcrux"???

Horcri?? Horcruxi??

I'll admit, "horcruxes" sounds kind of odd, but I never thought it would be anything else.

Is the word "horcruxes" actually used in the book? i.e. Voldy's horcruxes?

Dobby Socks - May 10, 2006 8:39 am (#1178 of 2974)

I loved the paper problem update. That really made me laugh. Wish I had thought of sending a sheet!

I’m thinking that she must be aware that a lot of people tend to check her website when there’s a character birthday. The last birthday was the Weasley Twins and the WOMBAT appeared the day before. Next one is Draco on… is it June 9? So maybe Grade 2 will appear then. But people are checking anyway and the word will spread like wildfire. That’s my best guess, though. Maybe Summer Solstice?

Can’t believe I’m so close to Manhattan (relatively) but will have to miss her reading. Ah well. Have fun Finn!

Amilia Smith - May 10, 2006 10:14 am (#1179 of 2974)

Haven't gone to her site yet - dementors at work - so what else would be the plural of "horcrux"???

Yup, you were right in one. Horcri. Which, according to Leaky, was "coined by our own John Noe on PotterCast."


John Bumbledore - May 10, 2006 10:33 am (#1180 of 2974)

Haymoni, try reading the chapter titled Horcruxes...

In her FAQ she used the word eponymous which is used in English to mean self titled.

Is the plural of 'Horcrux' 'Horcri?'
No, the plural of 'Horcrux' is 'Horcruxes', as demonstrated by the eponymous chapter in 'Half-Blood Prince.'
'nuf Said?
<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

Edit: Cross posted with Mills **Waves**

Soul Search - May 10, 2006 11:30 am (#1181 of 2974)

I wasn't sure if her references to house elves were about the book seven storyline or her own housekeeping.

Interesting if house elves have more than a casual role in book seven.

der 905 - May 10, 2006 11:39 am (#1182 of 2974)

I too hope house elves have a bigger role in book 7, but I think she was refering to her own housekeeping. She probably was having a hard time getting the kids to do their chores.

Lina - May 10, 2006 12:17 pm (#1183 of 2974)

Yay for you Finn! Just make sure that you are super healthy and to make a good report for us who won't be able to be there.

She wrote that the house elves have to accept that the author is a dictator, so I believe that she had more than one idea about the role of the house elves in the book.

Thanks, Jo!

skh - May 11, 2006 5:33 am (#1184 of 2974)

Lina - I agree with you, I felt it to mean the role of house elves in book 7 - that they weren't "behaving themselves" in that she can't fit them into the bit of plot she wants or a secondary thing keeps popping up or their story is growing too big / small / whatever, and that's why they "have to accept the author is a dicator"!!

Catherine - May 11, 2006 7:11 am (#1185 of 2974)

This reminds me of Jo writing GoF and she said that she had to rein in Hermione and S.P.E.W. because Hermione just ran amok with it, and she had to cut most of it.

She said something to the effect that Hermione wasn't behaving.

The Weaslys - May 11, 2006 11:12 am (#1186 of 2974)

Hey does anyuone know what the deal is with the word puzzle in the rubbish bin? Only it doens't make any sense...

The Weaslys - May 11, 2006 12:29 pm (#1187 of 2974)

I see I owe a very belated "Thank You" to Finn and Lina from way back in April. Thank You! I do sometimes happen to find a clue or solution on my own....but one of the six Weasly sons usually beats me to it. I'm not trying to be lazy by asking for clues. I actually rather relish the challenges of finding this stuff. If however I (or the sons) have had no success in a reasonable amount of time it is nice to know that there is a place here to find the solutions. I didn't know about the special website help before. As a mum I feel it my duty to say, please excuse the previous Weasly entry with the typos. Perchance I should make that particular Weasly get his own Forum name! Just out of curiousity though, has anyone figured out the word puzzle yet? I don't want the answer quite yet. I'd just like to know if anyone has done it....OK so after popping over to the Scrapbook help, I see that others have done it...so disregard that question and don't think too badly of this slightly distracted Mother. Why do you think I chose the name Weasly? I can so identify with that woman!

Finn BV - May 11, 2006 6:49 pm (#1188 of 2974)

LOL, The Weaslys! Glad I could be of service!

Lina, I saw today in the RSS feed of Leaky's news that there was an age limit for the event, and as I was waiting for the page to load (it takes a while with Leaky, because of the programming they use), I was afraid it would be 14 (since that's a common age limit in the US). I got really upset for a sec, because, the event, schedule for August 1 and 2, would be six and five days before my fourteenth birthday! But then I saw that the age limit was only 8, and I sighed… I will be sure to take notes… but let's just make sure I get there first!

PS Haymoni, if you ever listen to PotterCast, you will know that John Noe insists that JKR is wrong and that she made a mistake when she wrote the chapter "Horcruxes," because the correct plural is "Horcri." Her FAQ was an obvious allusion to the podcast.

Chemyst - May 11, 2006 7:25 pm (#1189 of 2974)

I was afraid it would be 14 (since that's a common age limit in the US). I got really upset for a sec, because, the event, schedule for August 1 and 2, would be six and five days before my fourteenth birthday! But then I saw that the age limit was only 8
...well, Whew! sorry, but I had to laugh.
You know someone around here would surely have vouched for you being 50.


does anyuone know what the deal is with the word puzzle in the rubbish bin?
The words can be arranged into a poem/clue for the "Early draft of PS, page one" easter egg.

Here I am
no ring within,
tap five times
and you get in.

It means: you have to click the empty ring box in the fan sites Trophy Room five times to get the prize. <= highlight to read

Thora - May 12, 2006 6:45 am (#1190 of 2974)

Maybe Thora and John.Bumbledore should get the HBP award for innovative potion making? - Jack Potter

Naw, I'll never claim to be on a level with John Bumbledore. If you look into the history of this thread you'll see why my pointy little hat is off to him.

I too, think she is making reference to getting the characters in the book to follow her lead, and not to problems with her "householdy spells" or servants.


John Bumbledore - May 12, 2006 7:07 am (#1191 of 2974)

Thank you. **sniff**

journeymom - May 12, 2006 8:01 am (#1192 of 2974)

I've got a question. The Lexicon's official guide to JKR's site indicates that there are 12 puzzles for your scrap book. If I have filled my scrap book am I 'finished' with her site for now? I read her notes on the desk top and check out the miscellaneous page on the cork board occasionally. Aside from waiting and hoping there will be another WOMBAT test, have I 'done' all the little extras?

John Bumbledore - May 12, 2006 9:20 am (#1193 of 2974)
Edited May 12, 2006 10:23 am

Journeymom, have you

Read her FAQ's using the paper clips on her desk and the envelopes that appear?
Reviewed the items when you open the news paper or the rummor "rag?"
Read her blurbs on Fan Site award winners (through the paper clamp)?
Checked out her comment and links on the links page (through the reading glasses)?
If you have answered yes to all of the above, then you are a true Potty and I would suggest staying tuned to this thread, visiting the Potty Games or HP Related Trivia or You Know You're a Harry Potter/Lexicon Fan When... or Potty HQ threads here on the Harry Potter Lexicon forum, and another game thread over on the Harry Potter Lexicon FanFiction Forum (FFF) called Potty Game: Five Words (Vol II) thread.

<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

journeymom - May 12, 2006 9:35 am (#1194 of 2974)

Yay! I must be a Potty, then!

I'll investigate those links post haste. Thank you!

John Bumbledore - May 15, 2006 11:10 am (#1195 of 2974)
Edited May 15, 2006 12:02 pm

Happy Birthday Pomona Sprout!

And just where did everyone go? I mean I am never the first to post about a birthday appearing on Jo's site...

<)B^D˜ John Bumbledore

Edit: P. S. Finn, thank you for pointing out my mispelling of Pomona. I have corrected it now.

Edit 2: haymoni, why must it be a mistake? (that I was first to print about a change to Jo's site?)

haymoni - May 15, 2006 11:18 am (#1196 of 2974)

I wondered the same thing, John!

There must be some mistake!

Finn BV - May 15, 2006 11:29 am (#1197 of 2974)

Hehe, I sort of forgot… Happy birthday Pomona! Our favorite Herbology teacher!

Fawkes Egg - May 20, 2006 7:28 am (#1198 of 2974)

Hello there, I'm just starting to post after 2 years away - see more in the Tell About Yourself thread!

I've just been playing with the red and green potions by the locked door. Does anyone know if there's a pattern to it or is JKR just messing with us?!

Lina - May 20, 2006 7:44 am (#1199 of 2974)

If you listen to the radio on the "Extra stuff" page, you will hear the pattern. In the case you don't have your sound on, I think it is 3 red drops and 6 green.

Fawkes Egg - May 20, 2006 5:35 pm (#1200 of 2974)

Thanks Lina! Wish I had that potion for my tomato plants!

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