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Elanor Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:05 am
Harry's Trunk and Contents
NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 8:36 am
Edited by Kip Carter Jan 12, 2006 12:19 pm
I'm not sure if this has been covered or not, but I'll give it a shot. I'm trying to gather a list of all of Harrys most prized material items. Named gifts, purchases, ect. I feel these things should not be forgotten as JKR has no useless information. The following are things that I could think of.
The Photo Album (Hagrid)
Hedwig (Hagrid)
Weasley Sweaters but how many? (Mrs. Weasley)
Wand
Sneakoscope (Ron)
Mirror, in pieces (Sirius)
Pocket Knife, melted (Sirius)
Firebolt (Sirius)
Broom care kit, including compass (Hermirone)
Books, Does anyone have a full list of his books?
Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore)
Golden Egg (Fourth Book)
Dress Robes
Anything else? I feel like I'm forgetting things.
This topic serves as an archive of a thread from the Harry Potter Lexicon Forum as hosted on World Crossing which ceased operation on April 15, 2011. At that time, this thread was still set in the "Archived Thread to be Worked" folder of the WC forum. Elanor
NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 8:36 am
Edited by Kip Carter Jan 12, 2006 12:19 pm
I'm not sure if this has been covered or not, but I'll give it a shot. I'm trying to gather a list of all of Harrys most prized material items. Named gifts, purchases, ect. I feel these things should not be forgotten as JKR has no useless information. The following are things that I could think of.
The Photo Album (Hagrid)
Hedwig (Hagrid)
Weasley Sweaters but how many? (Mrs. Weasley)
Wand
Sneakoscope (Ron)
Mirror, in pieces (Sirius)
Pocket Knife, melted (Sirius)
Firebolt (Sirius)
Broom care kit, including compass (Hermirone)
Books, Does anyone have a full list of his books?
Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore)
Golden Egg (Fourth Book)
Dress Robes
Anything else? I feel like I'm forgetting things.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 8:35 am (#1 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I was shocked to see that Hedwig was mentioned in the things that live in Harry's trunk but I know what you mean!
Books: See HPL: School Books
Note for the above link: Harry does not have all the books in the YEAR 3 list and those Lockhart books may have found their way into the Gryffindor fire!
As for Weasley sweaters...
SS/PS: An emerald green sweater.
CS: New and hand-knitted
PA: Scarlet with the Gryffindor Lion on front.
GF: Green with a dragon on it.
OP: Usual hand-knitted one.
EDIT: Other things in trunk could include things that are special to Harry including Sirius' Christmas card with the pawprint, his first birthday card etc. Just remembered, also the Marauder Map.
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 8:40 am (#2 of 135)
Got the sneakascope, but thanks for the sweaters, books and birthday cards.
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Diagon Nilly - Jun 14, 2004 9:52 am (#3 of 135)
...don't forget Dobby's socks!
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 10:07 am (#4 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Who could forget them?!
How many Hogwarts' robes has Harry had to buy? Of course, once when he started Hogwarts but any other times?
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mike miller - Jun 14, 2004 10:29 am (#5 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
I'm not sure where Harry keeps his Quidditch robes, but they could be in his trunk. I think he keeps his Firebolt in his trunk.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 10:31 am (#6 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Wait a minute, did Harry get his Firebolt back?
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 10:40 am (#7 of 135)
I think Harry has had to buy robes two or three times. He bought them his first year. I think Mrs. Weasley bought them one year for him. And then in PoA, didn't he buy some when in Diagon Alley for a week?
Your right, there was no mention of Harry getting his Firebolt back. Hmmm... Well if he doesn't have it now, he will get it shortly. Either by owl or by the first of the school year.
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tracie1976 - Jun 14, 2004 10:53 am (#8 of 135)
"Harry needs her badly." JKR on Hermione...interview from The Times June 30, 2000 artwork for avatar by logansrogue at livejournal.com
He got robes at the beginning of first year, and then new ones while he was staying at the Leaky Cauldron before the start of third year, and then Mrs. Weasley had to pick them up dress robes. But would the dress robes be kept in his trunk since they only needed to have them in fourth year?
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 10:53 am (#9 of 135)
OH!! The Maurauder's map!! I almost forgot about that.
Padfoot- I think that the firebolt is kinda like the maurauders map after book four. It was never mentioned, but JKR assuses that Harry knicks it back at the end of the year when he's gathering all his things.
So thing to add to the list are Dobbys socks, the map, quidditch robes, regular robes, standard school supplies (like cloves, cauldron, potion ingredients, ect.), birthday cards.
EDIT- I'm guessing that the Weasley sweaters and the Dobby socks are more than just a fashion statement, I think there is some magic woven into those as well. Next time I type out the entire list I'm going to key it of magical things, potentially magical things, standard items or something like that.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 11:09 am (#10 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I suppose Harry will still have his dress robes from his fourth year, even though they may not fit him anymore. Harry probably keeps things as a reminder of past events.
I don't know why this popped out at me, but the mini Firebolt that Tonks gave Harry would be in his trunk.
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 11:12 am (#11 of 135)
NYCNomad, what do the "magical" sweaters do? (Besides keep Harry and the Weasley's warm in that drafty school during the winter.)
Besides the birthday gifts (Quiddich Through the Ages, Boom Servicing Kit, miniature firebolt, set of DADA books...) do you think he kept his omnioculars (sp?) and his miniature dragon too?
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 11:21 am (#12 of 135)
Yes, the omniocculars, dress robes, the mini firebolt (I don't remember that? when did that happen?), the minature dragon too. Wasn't QTTA a library book? And the Broom servicing kit is in the original list.
As far as what the sweaters might do besides keep them warm... hmm, maybe allow Mrs. Weasley to know where they are at all times as a way to make sure they are all safe? Perhaps a small shield charm that would block some basic and weak cursed/charms? Maybe self cleaning? who knows? Just another one of my wild and random theories.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 11:28 am (#13 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Tonks gave Harry a mini Firebolt at Christmas OP. Don't have quote.
Also, Sirius and Remus gave him a stack of books at Christmas OP.
Don't forget his S.P.E.W badge and notebook!
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mike miller - Jun 14, 2004 11:46 am (#14 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
Maybe Molly's sweaters fit whoever they were knitted for even if that person grows. I like the idea of the sweaters linking back to Molly's wonderful clock. Has she added a Harry hand yet? The Ron hand might be doing some starnge things since Ron gave Dobby a sweater in GoF.
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 12:02 pm (#15 of 135)
Mike-if Ron gave his sweater to Dobby would the hand constantly switch between home and school since Dobby lives at Hogwarts, and Ron is there most of the year, but then Dobby is always there and so he's always at home. Wow, I'm confusing myself, perhaps it grew an extra hand or 2? One for Harry and one for Dobby.
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DJ Evans - Jun 14, 2004 12:07 pm (#16 of 135)
Genealogy....Where you confuse the dead & irritate the living!
What about the picture that Dobby painted for Harry? I can't remember if that got waylaid somewhere or not? Just remembered it when I was reading all of the different post there.
Later days, Deb
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 12:09 pm (#17 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I don't know what happened to the -er- portrait of Harry either. What about Hermione's homework diary?
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mike miller - Jun 14, 2004 12:15 pm (#18 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
NYCNomad - I think the Ron hand on Molly's clock was pointing at "MORTAL PERIL" when Dobby was in Snape's office stealing the Gillyweed for Harry.
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Loopy Lupin - Jun 14, 2004 12:57 pm (#19 of 135)
Just how big is this trunk anyway? Generally, a broom is pretty long, no?
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Julia. - Jun 14, 2004 1:05 pm (#20 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
It could be a magically expanding and shrinking trunk...always just enough room for whatever you need to put into it.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 1:07 pm (#21 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Can't remember the spell name, but maybe they have a spell that makes them look extra light and small, like the tents at the World Cup.
EDIT: Julia put it better than I could
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 2:05 pm (#22 of 135)
Or a telescoping broom handle?
I though Hermione gave Harry QTTA as a gift. Maybe it was another Quiddich book?
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Julia. - Jun 14, 2004 2:07 pm (#23 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
If I remember correctly, she borrowed, on his behalf, QTTA from the library in PS/SS after he was made seaker. I think she gave him Quidditch Teams of Brittian and Ireland or something like that or Christmas one year. I'm at mum's work at the moment, no books handy, perhaps on the Lexicon, I'll go look.
EDIT: The Lexicon has a list of Quidditch books. Quidditch Teams of Brittian and Ireland is Mentioned as turning up in GoF, chapter 23. I think this the book Hermione gave Harry. Here's the whole page, if you're interested. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 2:20 pm (#24 of 135)
Thanks Julia. You are right!
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Julia. - Jun 14, 2004 4:00 pm (#25 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
Yay! I love it when that happens.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 4:52 pm (#26 of 135)
Let it snow!
Didn't Ron give Harry a book about the Cudley Cannons (Flying with the Cannons or something like that)?
Would Harry still have the Golden Egg from the 1st/2nd task? There is no mention of him ever turning it in but it seems like an odd thing to keep.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 4:58 pm (#27 of 135)
Ron had given him a book called Flying with the Cannons, a book of interesting facts about his favorite Quidditch team (US CoS 212).
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:11 pm (#28 of 135)
Let it snow!
Thanks Lady Nagini!
Do you think Harry might keep old robes and other stuff he doesn't use (though maybe not books) at his room in Privet Drive? I mean, if he can't wear his first year robes, why not leave them under the loose floorboard under his bed instead of let them take up room in his trunk?
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:19 pm (#29 of 135)
Well, he always has magic. What's to say that the house-elves can't magically "let out" the seams on old school robes? Or even if that's not feasible, I'm sure that his trunk is magically expandable, so it really doesn't matter if the robes take up space or not. I can't see Harry voluntarily leaving anything even remotely concerning Hogwarts behind at the Dursley's.
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Mellilot Flower. - Jun 14, 2004 5:22 pm (#30 of 135)
Pixie led
I can easily believe that since Harry was allowed so few possessions when growing up that he finds uses for almost everything that he has... the robes he probably uses to cover Hedwigs cage- Ron does this in the fourth book with his own robes and Pig, I know my parrot's cage needs to be covered in blankets when she sleeps, so I suspect Harry would do the same for Hedwig.
I think it's highly interesting to note that almost everything that Sirius gave Harry (bar the broomstick and the books that also came from lupin) is now broken... does this signify something? Also, I'm not sure if this is the right place to make this comment, but I've always found it suspiscious that we didn't see the purchasing of Hedwig and that Hagrid just happens to turn up with him... Hedwig is a very intelligent bird.
I can't imagine even trying to lift that trunk with all of those books in it... and I think Harry does try to take everything with him because he wouldn't risk leaving anything with the dursleys and probably would feel intrusive leaving anything at the burrow and it would simply be inconvenient to leave things at No. 12
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:26 pm (#31 of 135)
Let it snow!
I thought Hedwig was a her. We do see the purchase in the books. Hagrid takes Harry into Eeylops Owl Emporium and buys him Hedwig as a birthday present.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:26 pm (#32 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 5:33 pm
I've always found it suspiscious that we didn't see the purchasing of Hedwig and that Hagrid just happens to turn up with him -- Chloe
First, I thought Hedwig was a female owl...and what do you mean?
Twenty minutes later, they left Eeylops Owl Emporium, which had been dark and full of rustling and flickering, jewel-bright eyes. Harry now carried a large cage that held a beautiful snowy owl, fast asleep with her head under her wing. He couldn't stop stammering his thanks (US SS 81)
Harry goes to buy Hedwig with Hagrid; we just don't see them inside the shop.
EDIT: Sigh, cross-posting with Sarah again.
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The Grey Lady - Jun 14, 2004 5:27 pm (#33 of 135)
Sup, Figgy?
Is that miniature model of a Horntail in his trunk?
He could sell old robes to thrift shops.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:31 pm (#34 of 135)
Let it snow!
The set of books that Sirius and Remus get Harry for Christmas is called: Practical Defensive Magic and Its Use Against the Dark Arts.
Heehee, Nagini! Great minds think alike!
Oh, and Hagrid gives Harry a fury brown wallet.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:34 pm (#35 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 5:34 pm
What do you think he does with all the mail he gets while at the Dursley's? He can't throw it out because chances are someone would find it, and as far as I know he can't burn it. Hmmm.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:40 pm (#36 of 135)
Let it snow!
Why can't he burn it? There are other ways to burn things than by using a fireplace. They aren't nearly as safe, true, but they do work. Also, couldn't he just rip the letters up and throw the pieces away in different places in the house? We do that with bank papers and such so that the different pieces will go into different trash sacks.....
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Mellilot Flower. - Jun 14, 2004 5:49 pm (#37 of 135)
Pixie led
Ooops, my drunken mistake... I've also been reading the books in a random order and have started dreaming a few scenes which I think accounts for this collossal mistake.
Many apologies
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:50 pm (#38 of 135)
Oh, no problem.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:53 pm (#39 of 135)
Let it snow!
I betting, though, that Harry has indeed kept every letter Sirius has ever written to him just because it was Sirius so that could definately be added to a list if nothing else.....
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 6:01 pm (#40 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 6:06 pm
Didn't he get a chess set from a cracker or something?
Oh, and Chocolate Frog cards.
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DJ Evans - Jun 14, 2004 6:05 pm (#41 of 135)
Genealogy....Where you confuse the dead & irritate the living!
I would think either Harry's truck expands inside, like the Weasley's car--cause didn't Mad-Eye spend basically the entire school year locked in his trunk? That or there is some sort of a charm/spell that condenses things for it all to fit maybe?
Plus, he has the socks that Petunia/Vernon gave him too, that was in his trunk.
After reading Sarah's post on ripping up the paper and putting it in different trash cans, got me to thinking of Harry doing that or even using it in the bottom of Hedwig's cage? But then I think of Harry keeping nearly every bit of the letters that he gets while he is at the Dursley's. As he never got anything such thing before, they just hold a special endearing meaning to him and he wants to hold on and re-read at times when he is alone?
Later days, Deb
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Justin Rapp - Jun 14, 2004 7:38 pm (#42 of 135)
I'm 45% obsessed! (Only 45? ô¿ô )
Deb, the Moody trunk was a different magical trunk than Harry has. I'm just basically picturing Harry's trunk as- well, as a trunk, I guess. Maybe it's enlarged with a charm, but I believe he's using the same trunk all along, and being as he couldn't have gotten his hands on anything really magical or interesting before he started at Hogwarts, I think it's just a regular, Muggle trunk. Also, maybe he just attaches the Nimbus/Firebolt to the top of the trunk - his trunk has those racks that people have on top of their cars for long trips - hehe.
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DJ Evans - Jun 14, 2004 8:04 pm (#43 of 135)
Genealogy....Where you confuse the dead & irritate the living!
Justin Rapp--you could be right, as I don't remember if the books ever said if Harry got the trunk from home or got it while he was getting the rest of his school supplies that first year? Thinking about it though--would the Dursley's have given him a trunk to use? Somehow I don't see them doing that or anything for Harry. Don't have the books close to me right now to see if they say one way or another.
Later days, Deb
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Robert Dierken - Jun 14, 2004 8:58 pm (#44 of 135)
Other possible items:
(1) Flute (from Hagrid at Christmas in PS/SS)
(2) Toothpick (from Dursleys at Christmas in CoS)
(3) Coathanger (from Dursleys for tenth birthday)
I don't think he has the socks that came with the coathanger, as he has given them to Dobby.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 9:07 pm (#45 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 9:07 pm
Well, there is no mention of whose trunk it is. Here are the only references I found.
"Got everythin'? Come on, then." --Hagrid (US SS 63)
Harry's huge, heavy trunk had been loaded into the Dursley's car (US SS 90)
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 10:09 pm (#46 of 135)
Let it snow!
I'm guessing he got the trunk while in Diagon Alley because, as Deb suggested, I can't see the Dursleys giving Harry a trunk or any kind to put magical things into.
I also don't think he kept the coathanger and toothpick the Dursleys gave him. Why would anyone want to?
Oh, wouldn't he have extra Muggle clothes in his trunk at least part of the time?
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 11:31 pm (#47 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 11:31 pm
Yeah. Me neither.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what they wear under their robes (I'm not going to say Muggle clothes, since that's serious movie contamination), but I'm sure they wear Muggle clothes at least some of the time.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 15, 2004 1:31 am (#48 of 135)
Let it snow!
Well, in the books, he wears t-shirts under his Quidditch robes (he had his wand in a pocket or something of his t-shirt in PoA in case Dementors showed up while playing Ravenclaw). Also, Mrs. Weasley is able to get to his Muggle clothes to lay some out at times so he's got to carry at least some with him. There are also references in the books to sneakers sticking out under robes and pantlegs sticking out under robes....
I'd say the real Movie contamination is the uniform that matches the robes instead of the robes being the uniform over Muggle clothes....
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 6:54 am (#49 of 135)
OK, so here's the list that I have so far. I'm putting the non-standar items on top and trying to work down to the most basic/common items. A star (*) means it IS magical in some way, shape or form, a plus (+) means it's possible, or I think it's likely, and if there's nothing next to it, then it's just what it it.
Maurauders Map * (Weasley Twins)
Omniocculars * (Purchased at World Cup)
Wand * (Ollivanders)
Sneakoscope * (Gift from Ron)
Two-way Mirror * (Gift from Sirius, now in pieces)
Invisabitity Cloak * (From James through Dumbledore)
Firebolt * (From Sirius)
Pocket Knife * (From Sirius, melted blade)
Photo Album * (From Hagrid)
Brown Wallet * (From Hagrid)
Wizarding Chess Set * (From Christmas snapper? gift?)
Mini Firebolt * (From Tonks)
Mini Dragon * (From First Task)
Famous Witch and Wizard Cards * (Chocolate Frog collection)
Hedwig * (From Hagrid)
Golden Egg * (Second Task)
Standard School Supplies (Gloves, ingredients, ect) * (For School)
Gift Books + (Chuddly Canons, DADA Books, ect.)
Dobby's Socks + (From Dobby, that's why their Dobby's socks)
5 Weasley Sweaters + (Various designs, listed in second post)
Broom Servicing Kit + (From Hermirone, includes compass)
Standard School Books + (Full list in link in post 2)
Flute (From Hagrid in book 1)
Robes (Regular, Quidditch and Dress)
Regular Clothes
SPEW Badge
Coat Hanger and toothpick (From Dursleys)
Sorry for the super long list, but I can't figure out how to make it a regular list, so this is what you end up with.
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 7:13 am (#50 of 135)
mother
Edited by Jun 15, 2004 7:20 am
EDIT: looks like I was composing this on-line just as you were posting. oops.
Here's a comprehensive list of Harry's possessions so far:
's indicate things I've added
Hedwig
Trunk:
School supplies:
Wand, cauldron, quills, parchment, potion ingredients (anyone have a list of those?),
School books:
YEAR 1
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 1 by Miranda Goshawk
A Beginner's Guide to Transfiguration by Emeric Switch
A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshott
Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling
One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore
Magical Drafts and Potions by Arsenius Jigger
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander
The Dark Forces: A Guide to Self-Protection by Quentin Trimble
YEAR 2
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 2 by Miranda Goshawk
Break With A Banshee by Gilderoy Lockhart
Gadding with Ghouls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Holidays with Hags by Gilderoy Lockhart
Travels with Trolls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart
Wandering with Werewolves by Gilderoy Lockhart
Year with the Yeti by Gilderoy Lockhart
YEAR 3
Intermediate Transfiguration
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 3 by Miranda Goshawk
The Monster Book Of Monsters
Unfogging the Future by Cassandra Vablatsky
YEAR 4
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 4 by Miranda Goshawk
YEAR 5
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 5 by Miranda Goshawk
Defensive Magical Theory by Wilbert Slinkhard
Other books:
dream diary
Homework diary (Hermione)
Quidditch Teams of Brittain and Ireland (Hermione)
Flying with the Cannons (Ron)
Practical Defensive Magic and its Uses Against the Dark Arts (Sirius and Remus)
Clothes and other personal items:
Weasley sweaters:
SS/PS Emerald green
CS New and hand-knitted
PoA Scarlet with the Gryffindor lion on front
GoF Green with a dragon on it
OotP Usual Handknitted one
didn't some of those come with matching socks?
School robes purchased 1st and 3rd year by Harry and 5th year by Mrs. Weasley.
Dress robes purchased 4th year
Dudley and Vernon's cast-offs, including t-shirts, pants, belts, socks (he gave one pair to Dobby, but still has some)
sneakers (trainers)
watch (maybe another cast-off from Dudley)
comb, toothbrush
Other Gifts:
Photo album (Hagrid)
Pocket Sneakoscope (Ron)
Mirror, in peices (Sirius)
Pocket knife (Sirius - I don't know if he'd still have this, as it was melted in the DOM)
Firebolt (Sirius - presumably knicked out of Umbridge's office)
Broom-care Servicing Kit (Hermione)
Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore)
Marauder's Map (Fred and George via Filch and the Marauders)
Dobby's socks
Dobby's portrait of Harry
Mini Firebolt (Tonks)
Dursley's toothpick, tissue, coat hanger (unlikely Harry kept these)
Furry brown wallet (Hagrid)
Hand-made flute (Hagrid)
Miscellaneous stuff:
Golden Egg
Letters and Birthday Cards, including one with a pawprint from Sirius
Model of Hungarian Horntail
Omnioculars
S.P.E.W. badge and notebook from Hermione
some food (candy, left-over B-day cake, etc.)
Wizard Chess Set (from Christmas cracker)
Chocolate Frog Cards
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I was shocked to see that Hedwig was mentioned in the things that live in Harry's trunk but I know what you mean!
Books: See HPL: School Books
Note for the above link: Harry does not have all the books in the YEAR 3 list and those Lockhart books may have found their way into the Gryffindor fire!
As for Weasley sweaters...
SS/PS: An emerald green sweater.
CS: New and hand-knitted
PA: Scarlet with the Gryffindor Lion on front.
GF: Green with a dragon on it.
OP: Usual hand-knitted one.
EDIT: Other things in trunk could include things that are special to Harry including Sirius' Christmas card with the pawprint, his first birthday card etc. Just remembered, also the Marauder Map.
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 8:40 am (#2 of 135)
Got the sneakascope, but thanks for the sweaters, books and birthday cards.
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Diagon Nilly - Jun 14, 2004 9:52 am (#3 of 135)
...don't forget Dobby's socks!
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 10:07 am (#4 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Who could forget them?!
How many Hogwarts' robes has Harry had to buy? Of course, once when he started Hogwarts but any other times?
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mike miller - Jun 14, 2004 10:29 am (#5 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
I'm not sure where Harry keeps his Quidditch robes, but they could be in his trunk. I think he keeps his Firebolt in his trunk.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 10:31 am (#6 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Wait a minute, did Harry get his Firebolt back?
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 10:40 am (#7 of 135)
I think Harry has had to buy robes two or three times. He bought them his first year. I think Mrs. Weasley bought them one year for him. And then in PoA, didn't he buy some when in Diagon Alley for a week?
Your right, there was no mention of Harry getting his Firebolt back. Hmmm... Well if he doesn't have it now, he will get it shortly. Either by owl or by the first of the school year.
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tracie1976 - Jun 14, 2004 10:53 am (#8 of 135)
"Harry needs her badly." JKR on Hermione...interview from The Times June 30, 2000 artwork for avatar by logansrogue at livejournal.com
He got robes at the beginning of first year, and then new ones while he was staying at the Leaky Cauldron before the start of third year, and then Mrs. Weasley had to pick them up dress robes. But would the dress robes be kept in his trunk since they only needed to have them in fourth year?
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 10:53 am (#9 of 135)
OH!! The Maurauder's map!! I almost forgot about that.
Padfoot- I think that the firebolt is kinda like the maurauders map after book four. It was never mentioned, but JKR assuses that Harry knicks it back at the end of the year when he's gathering all his things.
So thing to add to the list are Dobbys socks, the map, quidditch robes, regular robes, standard school supplies (like cloves, cauldron, potion ingredients, ect.), birthday cards.
EDIT- I'm guessing that the Weasley sweaters and the Dobby socks are more than just a fashion statement, I think there is some magic woven into those as well. Next time I type out the entire list I'm going to key it of magical things, potentially magical things, standard items or something like that.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 11:09 am (#10 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I suppose Harry will still have his dress robes from his fourth year, even though they may not fit him anymore. Harry probably keeps things as a reminder of past events.
I don't know why this popped out at me, but the mini Firebolt that Tonks gave Harry would be in his trunk.
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 11:12 am (#11 of 135)
NYCNomad, what do the "magical" sweaters do? (Besides keep Harry and the Weasley's warm in that drafty school during the winter.)
Besides the birthday gifts (Quiddich Through the Ages, Boom Servicing Kit, miniature firebolt, set of DADA books...) do you think he kept his omnioculars (sp?) and his miniature dragon too?
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 11:21 am (#12 of 135)
Yes, the omniocculars, dress robes, the mini firebolt (I don't remember that? when did that happen?), the minature dragon too. Wasn't QTTA a library book? And the Broom servicing kit is in the original list.
As far as what the sweaters might do besides keep them warm... hmm, maybe allow Mrs. Weasley to know where they are at all times as a way to make sure they are all safe? Perhaps a small shield charm that would block some basic and weak cursed/charms? Maybe self cleaning? who knows? Just another one of my wild and random theories.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 11:28 am (#13 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Tonks gave Harry a mini Firebolt at Christmas OP. Don't have quote.
Also, Sirius and Remus gave him a stack of books at Christmas OP.
Don't forget his S.P.E.W badge and notebook!
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mike miller - Jun 14, 2004 11:46 am (#14 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
Maybe Molly's sweaters fit whoever they were knitted for even if that person grows. I like the idea of the sweaters linking back to Molly's wonderful clock. Has she added a Harry hand yet? The Ron hand might be doing some starnge things since Ron gave Dobby a sweater in GoF.
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NYCNomad - Jun 14, 2004 12:02 pm (#15 of 135)
Mike-if Ron gave his sweater to Dobby would the hand constantly switch between home and school since Dobby lives at Hogwarts, and Ron is there most of the year, but then Dobby is always there and so he's always at home. Wow, I'm confusing myself, perhaps it grew an extra hand or 2? One for Harry and one for Dobby.
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DJ Evans - Jun 14, 2004 12:07 pm (#16 of 135)
Genealogy....Where you confuse the dead & irritate the living!
What about the picture that Dobby painted for Harry? I can't remember if that got waylaid somewhere or not? Just remembered it when I was reading all of the different post there.
Later days, Deb
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 12:09 pm (#17 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I don't know what happened to the -er- portrait of Harry either. What about Hermione's homework diary?
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mike miller - Jun 14, 2004 12:15 pm (#18 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
NYCNomad - I think the Ron hand on Molly's clock was pointing at "MORTAL PERIL" when Dobby was in Snape's office stealing the Gillyweed for Harry.
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Loopy Lupin - Jun 14, 2004 12:57 pm (#19 of 135)
Just how big is this trunk anyway? Generally, a broom is pretty long, no?
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Julia. - Jun 14, 2004 1:05 pm (#20 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
It could be a magically expanding and shrinking trunk...always just enough room for whatever you need to put into it.
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Chris. - Jun 14, 2004 1:07 pm (#21 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
Can't remember the spell name, but maybe they have a spell that makes them look extra light and small, like the tents at the World Cup.
EDIT: Julia put it better than I could
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 2:05 pm (#22 of 135)
Or a telescoping broom handle?
I though Hermione gave Harry QTTA as a gift. Maybe it was another Quiddich book?
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Julia. - Jun 14, 2004 2:07 pm (#23 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
If I remember correctly, she borrowed, on his behalf, QTTA from the library in PS/SS after he was made seaker. I think she gave him Quidditch Teams of Brittian and Ireland or something like that or Christmas one year. I'm at mum's work at the moment, no books handy, perhaps on the Lexicon, I'll go look.
EDIT: The Lexicon has a list of Quidditch books. Quidditch Teams of Brittian and Ireland is Mentioned as turning up in GoF, chapter 23. I think this the book Hermione gave Harry. Here's the whole page, if you're interested. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Padfoot - Jun 14, 2004 2:20 pm (#24 of 135)
Thanks Julia. You are right!
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Julia. - Jun 14, 2004 4:00 pm (#25 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
Yay! I love it when that happens.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 4:52 pm (#26 of 135)
Let it snow!
Didn't Ron give Harry a book about the Cudley Cannons (Flying with the Cannons or something like that)?
Would Harry still have the Golden Egg from the 1st/2nd task? There is no mention of him ever turning it in but it seems like an odd thing to keep.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 4:58 pm (#27 of 135)
Ron had given him a book called Flying with the Cannons, a book of interesting facts about his favorite Quidditch team (US CoS 212).
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:11 pm (#28 of 135)
Let it snow!
Thanks Lady Nagini!
Do you think Harry might keep old robes and other stuff he doesn't use (though maybe not books) at his room in Privet Drive? I mean, if he can't wear his first year robes, why not leave them under the loose floorboard under his bed instead of let them take up room in his trunk?
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:19 pm (#29 of 135)
Well, he always has magic. What's to say that the house-elves can't magically "let out" the seams on old school robes? Or even if that's not feasible, I'm sure that his trunk is magically expandable, so it really doesn't matter if the robes take up space or not. I can't see Harry voluntarily leaving anything even remotely concerning Hogwarts behind at the Dursley's.
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Mellilot Flower. - Jun 14, 2004 5:22 pm (#30 of 135)
Pixie led
I can easily believe that since Harry was allowed so few possessions when growing up that he finds uses for almost everything that he has... the robes he probably uses to cover Hedwigs cage- Ron does this in the fourth book with his own robes and Pig, I know my parrot's cage needs to be covered in blankets when she sleeps, so I suspect Harry would do the same for Hedwig.
I think it's highly interesting to note that almost everything that Sirius gave Harry (bar the broomstick and the books that also came from lupin) is now broken... does this signify something? Also, I'm not sure if this is the right place to make this comment, but I've always found it suspiscious that we didn't see the purchasing of Hedwig and that Hagrid just happens to turn up with him... Hedwig is a very intelligent bird.
I can't imagine even trying to lift that trunk with all of those books in it... and I think Harry does try to take everything with him because he wouldn't risk leaving anything with the dursleys and probably would feel intrusive leaving anything at the burrow and it would simply be inconvenient to leave things at No. 12
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:26 pm (#31 of 135)
Let it snow!
I thought Hedwig was a her. We do see the purchase in the books. Hagrid takes Harry into Eeylops Owl Emporium and buys him Hedwig as a birthday present.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:26 pm (#32 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 5:33 pm
I've always found it suspiscious that we didn't see the purchasing of Hedwig and that Hagrid just happens to turn up with him -- Chloe
First, I thought Hedwig was a female owl...and what do you mean?
Twenty minutes later, they left Eeylops Owl Emporium, which had been dark and full of rustling and flickering, jewel-bright eyes. Harry now carried a large cage that held a beautiful snowy owl, fast asleep with her head under her wing. He couldn't stop stammering his thanks (US SS 81)
Harry goes to buy Hedwig with Hagrid; we just don't see them inside the shop.
EDIT: Sigh, cross-posting with Sarah again.
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The Grey Lady - Jun 14, 2004 5:27 pm (#33 of 135)
Sup, Figgy?
Is that miniature model of a Horntail in his trunk?
He could sell old robes to thrift shops.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:31 pm (#34 of 135)
Let it snow!
The set of books that Sirius and Remus get Harry for Christmas is called: Practical Defensive Magic and Its Use Against the Dark Arts.
Heehee, Nagini! Great minds think alike!
Oh, and Hagrid gives Harry a fury brown wallet.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:34 pm (#35 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 5:34 pm
What do you think he does with all the mail he gets while at the Dursley's? He can't throw it out because chances are someone would find it, and as far as I know he can't burn it. Hmmm.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:40 pm (#36 of 135)
Let it snow!
Why can't he burn it? There are other ways to burn things than by using a fireplace. They aren't nearly as safe, true, but they do work. Also, couldn't he just rip the letters up and throw the pieces away in different places in the house? We do that with bank papers and such so that the different pieces will go into different trash sacks.....
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Mellilot Flower. - Jun 14, 2004 5:49 pm (#37 of 135)
Pixie led
Ooops, my drunken mistake... I've also been reading the books in a random order and have started dreaming a few scenes which I think accounts for this collossal mistake.
Many apologies
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 5:50 pm (#38 of 135)
Oh, no problem.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 5:53 pm (#39 of 135)
Let it snow!
I betting, though, that Harry has indeed kept every letter Sirius has ever written to him just because it was Sirius so that could definately be added to a list if nothing else.....
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 6:01 pm (#40 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 6:06 pm
Didn't he get a chess set from a cracker or something?
Oh, and Chocolate Frog cards.
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DJ Evans - Jun 14, 2004 6:05 pm (#41 of 135)
Genealogy....Where you confuse the dead & irritate the living!
I would think either Harry's truck expands inside, like the Weasley's car--cause didn't Mad-Eye spend basically the entire school year locked in his trunk? That or there is some sort of a charm/spell that condenses things for it all to fit maybe?
Plus, he has the socks that Petunia/Vernon gave him too, that was in his trunk.
After reading Sarah's post on ripping up the paper and putting it in different trash cans, got me to thinking of Harry doing that or even using it in the bottom of Hedwig's cage? But then I think of Harry keeping nearly every bit of the letters that he gets while he is at the Dursley's. As he never got anything such thing before, they just hold a special endearing meaning to him and he wants to hold on and re-read at times when he is alone?
Later days, Deb
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Justin Rapp - Jun 14, 2004 7:38 pm (#42 of 135)
I'm 45% obsessed! (Only 45? ô¿ô )
Deb, the Moody trunk was a different magical trunk than Harry has. I'm just basically picturing Harry's trunk as- well, as a trunk, I guess. Maybe it's enlarged with a charm, but I believe he's using the same trunk all along, and being as he couldn't have gotten his hands on anything really magical or interesting before he started at Hogwarts, I think it's just a regular, Muggle trunk. Also, maybe he just attaches the Nimbus/Firebolt to the top of the trunk - his trunk has those racks that people have on top of their cars for long trips - hehe.
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DJ Evans - Jun 14, 2004 8:04 pm (#43 of 135)
Genealogy....Where you confuse the dead & irritate the living!
Justin Rapp--you could be right, as I don't remember if the books ever said if Harry got the trunk from home or got it while he was getting the rest of his school supplies that first year? Thinking about it though--would the Dursley's have given him a trunk to use? Somehow I don't see them doing that or anything for Harry. Don't have the books close to me right now to see if they say one way or another.
Later days, Deb
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Robert Dierken - Jun 14, 2004 8:58 pm (#44 of 135)
Other possible items:
(1) Flute (from Hagrid at Christmas in PS/SS)
(2) Toothpick (from Dursleys at Christmas in CoS)
(3) Coathanger (from Dursleys for tenth birthday)
I don't think he has the socks that came with the coathanger, as he has given them to Dobby.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 9:07 pm (#45 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 9:07 pm
Well, there is no mention of whose trunk it is. Here are the only references I found.
"Got everythin'? Come on, then." --Hagrid (US SS 63)
Harry's huge, heavy trunk had been loaded into the Dursley's car (US SS 90)
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S.E. Jones - Jun 14, 2004 10:09 pm (#46 of 135)
Let it snow!
I'm guessing he got the trunk while in Diagon Alley because, as Deb suggested, I can't see the Dursleys giving Harry a trunk or any kind to put magical things into.
I also don't think he kept the coathanger and toothpick the Dursleys gave him. Why would anyone want to?
Oh, wouldn't he have extra Muggle clothes in his trunk at least part of the time?
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Lady Nagini - Jun 14, 2004 11:31 pm (#47 of 135)
Edited by Jun 14, 2004 11:31 pm
Yeah. Me neither.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what they wear under their robes (I'm not going to say Muggle clothes, since that's serious movie contamination), but I'm sure they wear Muggle clothes at least some of the time.
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S.E. Jones - Jun 15, 2004 1:31 am (#48 of 135)
Let it snow!
Well, in the books, he wears t-shirts under his Quidditch robes (he had his wand in a pocket or something of his t-shirt in PoA in case Dementors showed up while playing Ravenclaw). Also, Mrs. Weasley is able to get to his Muggle clothes to lay some out at times so he's got to carry at least some with him. There are also references in the books to sneakers sticking out under robes and pantlegs sticking out under robes....
I'd say the real Movie contamination is the uniform that matches the robes instead of the robes being the uniform over Muggle clothes....
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 6:54 am (#49 of 135)
OK, so here's the list that I have so far. I'm putting the non-standar items on top and trying to work down to the most basic/common items. A star (*) means it IS magical in some way, shape or form, a plus (+) means it's possible, or I think it's likely, and if there's nothing next to it, then it's just what it it.
Maurauders Map * (Weasley Twins)
Omniocculars * (Purchased at World Cup)
Wand * (Ollivanders)
Sneakoscope * (Gift from Ron)
Two-way Mirror * (Gift from Sirius, now in pieces)
Invisabitity Cloak * (From James through Dumbledore)
Firebolt * (From Sirius)
Pocket Knife * (From Sirius, melted blade)
Photo Album * (From Hagrid)
Brown Wallet * (From Hagrid)
Wizarding Chess Set * (From Christmas snapper? gift?)
Mini Firebolt * (From Tonks)
Mini Dragon * (From First Task)
Famous Witch and Wizard Cards * (Chocolate Frog collection)
Hedwig * (From Hagrid)
Golden Egg * (Second Task)
Standard School Supplies (Gloves, ingredients, ect) * (For School)
Gift Books + (Chuddly Canons, DADA Books, ect.)
Dobby's Socks + (From Dobby, that's why their Dobby's socks)
5 Weasley Sweaters + (Various designs, listed in second post)
Broom Servicing Kit + (From Hermirone, includes compass)
Standard School Books + (Full list in link in post 2)
Flute (From Hagrid in book 1)
Robes (Regular, Quidditch and Dress)
Regular Clothes
SPEW Badge
Coat Hanger and toothpick (From Dursleys)
Sorry for the super long list, but I can't figure out how to make it a regular list, so this is what you end up with.
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 7:13 am (#50 of 135)
mother
Edited by Jun 15, 2004 7:20 am
EDIT: looks like I was composing this on-line just as you were posting. oops.
Here's a comprehensive list of Harry's possessions so far:
's indicate things I've added
Hedwig
Trunk:
School supplies:
Wand, cauldron, quills, parchment, potion ingredients (anyone have a list of those?),
School books:
YEAR 1
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 1 by Miranda Goshawk
A Beginner's Guide to Transfiguration by Emeric Switch
A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshott
Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling
One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore
Magical Drafts and Potions by Arsenius Jigger
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander
The Dark Forces: A Guide to Self-Protection by Quentin Trimble
YEAR 2
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 2 by Miranda Goshawk
Break With A Banshee by Gilderoy Lockhart
Gadding with Ghouls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Holidays with Hags by Gilderoy Lockhart
Travels with Trolls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart
Wandering with Werewolves by Gilderoy Lockhart
Year with the Yeti by Gilderoy Lockhart
YEAR 3
Intermediate Transfiguration
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 3 by Miranda Goshawk
The Monster Book Of Monsters
Unfogging the Future by Cassandra Vablatsky
YEAR 4
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 4 by Miranda Goshawk
YEAR 5
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 5 by Miranda Goshawk
Defensive Magical Theory by Wilbert Slinkhard
Other books:
dream diary
Homework diary (Hermione)
Quidditch Teams of Brittain and Ireland (Hermione)
Flying with the Cannons (Ron)
Practical Defensive Magic and its Uses Against the Dark Arts (Sirius and Remus)
Clothes and other personal items:
Weasley sweaters:
SS/PS Emerald green
CS New and hand-knitted
PoA Scarlet with the Gryffindor lion on front
GoF Green with a dragon on it
OotP Usual Handknitted one
didn't some of those come with matching socks?
School robes purchased 1st and 3rd year by Harry and 5th year by Mrs. Weasley.
Dress robes purchased 4th year
Dudley and Vernon's cast-offs, including t-shirts, pants, belts, socks (he gave one pair to Dobby, but still has some)
sneakers (trainers)
watch (maybe another cast-off from Dudley)
comb, toothbrush
Other Gifts:
Photo album (Hagrid)
Pocket Sneakoscope (Ron)
Mirror, in peices (Sirius)
Pocket knife (Sirius - I don't know if he'd still have this, as it was melted in the DOM)
Firebolt (Sirius - presumably knicked out of Umbridge's office)
Broom-care Servicing Kit (Hermione)
Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore)
Marauder's Map (Fred and George via Filch and the Marauders)
Dobby's socks
Dobby's portrait of Harry
Mini Firebolt (Tonks)
Dursley's toothpick, tissue, coat hanger (unlikely Harry kept these)
Furry brown wallet (Hagrid)
Hand-made flute (Hagrid)
Miscellaneous stuff:
Golden Egg
Letters and Birthday Cards, including one with a pawprint from Sirius
Model of Hungarian Horntail
Omnioculars
S.P.E.W. badge and notebook from Hermione
some food (candy, left-over B-day cake, etc.)
Wizard Chess Set (from Christmas cracker)
Chocolate Frog Cards
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 7:21 am (#51 of 135)
Popkin, looks good, thanks for taking the time to write out all the books and sweaters and extra that I was to lazy to do.
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 7:33 am (#52 of 135)
mother
You're welcome, NYCNomad. As I look at the list, which is pretty long for a trunkful of stuff, the things that stand out the most form me are the gifts which Harry has never used. For a kid who never had a friend or gifts until he turned 11, he sure doesn't treasure their gestures of friendship like I would expect. Also, I want to see Harry make good use of his dream diary - Ron, too.
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 7:42 am (#53 of 135)
I always thought that was homework to be turned in and graded.
OH!! I forgot that he had an Eagle feather quill from Hermirone and he also got color changing ink in the first book.
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 7:46 am (#54 of 135)
mother
Darn. The edit option timed out, or I'd have added those to my list.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 15, 2004 8:08 am (#55 of 135)
How about miscellaneous dungbombs and zonkos stuff like them? And did he keep the pieces to his broken Nimbus 2000? I know he did at least for a little while...
Has anyone checked the passage where harry finds that his trunk has been invaded and riddle's diary stolen? I know it describes that his trunk contents are all over the floor, but I don't know if it describes them at all (I"m at work, so I can't check...)
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haymoni - Jun 15, 2004 8:17 am (#56 of 135)
I always pictured Harry's trunk to be huge - like a big steamer trunk. So I was a bit confused when I saw the suitcase-looking thing in the movie.
Is "trunk" a British term for "suitcase"?
I like my steamer trunk idea better - one with a spell similar to the one Arthur used on the car.
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 8:25 am (#57 of 135)
Accio Book 6, that's very good, I forgot about those Zonkos things, like the nose biting teacup and such. OH, and the programme from the World Cup.
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mike miller - Jun 15, 2004 8:28 am (#58 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
Harry's trunk in the movies seems almost a cross between a suitcase and a trunk; sort of a child's trunk. Kids clothes are smaller and you can easily get by with something samller.
However, referring back to the books (and canon), there seems to be several situations where people have trouble handling the kids trunks (it takes both Fred and George in CoS to get Harry's; and, getting all of them into the taxi's at the beginning of GoF for example).
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Accio Book Six - Jun 15, 2004 9:07 am (#59 of 135)
I am fairly certain that pretty much anything that you could buy in Diagon Alley would be magically modified. I'd wager my whole hardcover collection that his trunk could fit as much as he wants in it... just like the trunk (haha) of Arthurs old Ford Anglia. And I think that of course it would be heavy, as it carries all of his stuff. But that can be helped... doesn't harry ponder performing an enchantment on his trunk to make it feather light? That seems like it would be the first thing on a fully qualified wizard's mind before exerting ANY energy on barbaric muggle practices?
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 9:22 am (#60 of 135)
Some of the simplest and most common spells that seem to be most widely used is a space enhancing charm, like the tents at the world cup and the Ford. The feather light spell, Harry considered it an easy charm after 2 years of school. And as Flitwick said, the levitation charm, during their Halloween Charms class, book 1.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 15, 2004 10:48 am (#61 of 135)
Does anyone else feel sad for poor harry, that as a sixteen year old boy we are able to name every single one of his possessions? Poor poor deprived harry...
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 3:52 pm (#62 of 135)
mother
Well.... He does have a vault full of gold at Gringott's. I have wondered if there might be something in the vault that Harry has not noticed before, since his parents may have stored other valuables there.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 15, 2004 4:04 pm (#63 of 135)
Edited by Jun 15, 2004 4:04 pm
Yeah, it's not that he doesn't have the means to buy whatever he wants. He just doesn't feel the need to do so. Well-grounded, I suppose...can we thank the Dursely's for that?
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Ladybug220 - Jun 15, 2004 8:14 pm (#64 of 135)
...moves faster than Severus Snape confronted with shampoo
I am confused. I thought that Hedwig had a cage and didn't ride in the trunk. Since she is a living creature, wouldn't she need the fresh air?
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NYCNomad - Jun 16, 2004 5:12 am (#65 of 135)
Lady Bug- Hedwig does have a cage and is not living in the trunk, but this is a list of all of his possesions. I started this thread in hopes of remembering some small detail that we could have forgotten. Such as the omniocculars. It seems they were bought up and left forgotten, not very much like JKR to drop something like that. Just looking to keep everything in plain sight.
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Ladybug220 - Jun 16, 2004 5:43 am (#66 of 135)
...moves faster than Severus Snape confronted with shampoo
Ok, I just had to check.
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Robert Dierken - Jun 16, 2004 7:06 pm (#67 of 135)
I think that Harry would also have the key to his Gringott's vault in the trunk.
In Chapter 2 of PoA I see that some time after Harry's fifth birthday Aunt Marge gave him a box of dog biscuits, but I doubt that he still has them.
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NYCNomad - Jun 17, 2004 5:26 am (#68 of 135)
I can't imagine that he would still have those. Perhaps that how he survived those long stays in the closet under the stairs.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 17, 2004 5:47 am (#69 of 135)
How about some Gold? Did anyone say that already? I"ve read this WHOLE thread recently, but I can't remember for the life of me.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 17, 2004 5:48 am (#70 of 135)
Yeah, it wasn't on those two big comprised lists. Ammend them and add: Money bag/Gold or something
EDIT: OOOHHHH! and his DA Galleon!
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Garion - Jun 18, 2004 1:52 am (#71 of 135)
Does Harry still have the Marauder's Map? I thought that he lent it Mad Eye Moody/ Barty Crouch in GOF. I don't recall him ever getting it back. I guess I will have to read it again.
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Mellilot Flower. - Jun 18, 2004 4:50 am (#72 of 135)
Pixie led
Yes he does, he uses it in OoP quite frequently, but we were never sure how he got it back...
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NYCNomad - Jun 18, 2004 5:09 am (#73 of 135)
JKR said in an interview that it went assumed that he got it back at the end of book four. It is one of the corrections she's going to make when she edits them all in the future.
(I hope I didn't just dream that up. I'm just starting my first cup of coffee and not really awake yet.)
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Julia. - Jun 18, 2004 10:12 am (#74 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
You are not dreaming that up NYCNomad, and here is the proof.
HPFreak7: How did Harry get the Marauder's Map back, when Crouch Jr. had it last?
JK Rowling replies -> Loads of people have asked me this, I knew I should have shown Harry nipping into Moody's empty office and getting it back, but I assumed you'd all know that's what he did. Sorry! (from the World Book Day chat)
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NYCNomad - Jun 18, 2004 10:47 am (#75 of 135)
Thanks Julia, good to know I was semi-coherant this morning. Here is an updated list of everything that's been mentioned so far. What my initial idea with this was to try to pull out the things that were bought in and then left for forgotten that might come into play in later books. If I have any say in this particular thread, I would be most interested in hearing theories along those lines.
Hedwig
Trunk:
School supplies: Wand, cauldron, quills, parchment, potion ingredients (anyone have a list of those?),
School books: YEAR 1 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 1 by Miranda Goshawk A Beginner's Guide to Transfiguration by Emeric Switch A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshott Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore Magical Drafts and Potions by Arsenius Jigger Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander The Dark Forces: A Guide to Self-Protection by Quentin Trimble YEAR 2 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 2 by Miranda Goshawk Break With A Banshee by Gilderoy Lockhart Gadding with Ghouls by Gilderoy Lockhart Holidays with Hags by Gilderoy Lockhart Travels with Trolls by Gilderoy Lockhart Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart Wandering with Werewolves by Gilderoy Lockhart Year with the Yeti by Gilderoy Lockhart YEAR 3 Intermediate Transfiguration The Standard Book of Spells Grade 3 by Miranda Goshawk The Monster Book Of Monsters Unfogging the Future by Cassandra Vablatsky YEAR 4 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 4 by Miranda Goshawk YEAR 5 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 5 by Miranda Goshawk Defensive Magical Theory by Wilbert Slinkhard
Other books:
dream diary Homework diary (Hermione) Quidditch Teams of Brittain and Ireland (Hermione) Flying with the Cannons (Ron) Practical Defensive Magic and its Uses Against the Dark Arts (Sirius and Remus)
Clothes and other personal items: Weasley sweaters: SS/PS Emerald green CS New and hand-knitted PoA Scarlet with the Gryffindor lion on front GoF Green with a dragon on it OotP Usual Handknitted one
didn't some of those come with matching socks? School robes purchased 1st and 3rd year by Harry and 5th year by Mrs. Weasley. Dress robes purchased 4th year
Dudley and Vernon's cast-offs, including t-shirts, pants, belts, socks (he gave one pair to Dobby, but still has some) sneakers (trainers)
watch (maybe another cast-off from Dudley)
comb, toothbrush
Other Gifts: Photo album (Hagrid) Pocket Sneakoscope (Ron) Mirror, in peices (Sirius) Pocket knife (Sirius - I don't know if he'd still have this, as it was melted in the DOM) Firebolt (Sirius - presumably knicked out of Umbridge's office) Broom-care Servicing Kit (Hermione) Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore) Marauder's Map (Fred and George via Filch and the Marauders) Dobby's socks Dobby's portrait of Harry Mini Firebolt (Tonks) Dursley's toothpick, tissue, coat hanger (unlikely Harry kept these) Furry brown wallet (Hagrid) Hand-made flute (Hagrid)
Miscellaneous stuff: Color Changing Ink Eagle Feather Quill World Cup Program Various Zonko Supplies DA Galleon Money bag & money Golden Egg Letters and Birthday Cards, including one with a pawprint from Sirius Model of Hungarian Horntail Omnioculars S.P.E.W. badge and notebook from Hermione
some food (candy, left-over B-day cake, etc.) Wizard Chess Set (from Christmas cracker) Chocolate Frog Cards
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Accio Book Six - Jun 18, 2004 2:34 pm (#76 of 135)
applauds* Good job, NYCNomad!!!
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Padfoot - Jun 18, 2004 2:41 pm (#77 of 135)
That's a lot to bring to school every year! Very thorough list NYCNomad.
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popkin - Jun 18, 2004 5:38 pm (#78 of 135)
mother
Some of the big things Harry has not made good use of are: the omnioculars, the pocket sneakoscope, and Dobby's socks and portrait. Also, I'd like to see him take a trip to his bank vault and look around for anything that isn't actually money. The vault is really like an enormous safety deposit box - so I'd expect Lily and James to keep some non-monetary valuables there.
Harry's portrait is a painting - even if it does resemble a gibbon (am I remembering that right?), I would think it could talk like the other magical paintings. Is it just waiting for someone to strike up a conversation?
I would think the omnioculars would be ideal for any situation that Harry wanted to watch closely, since Harry could replay the entire scene afterwards and analyze it.
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freshwater - Jun 18, 2004 6:35 pm (#79 of 135)
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That's a very good point about the omniocculars, popkin!
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alexa - Jun 20, 2004 5:51 pm (#80 of 135)
What about his quidditch robes?
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Liz - Jun 20, 2004 5:55 pm (#81 of 135)
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I hope that those robes are clean.
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NYCNomad - Jun 21, 2004 10:42 am (#82 of 135)
I think the omniocculars have to come back, they were very detailed and very expensive! (10 Galleons!!) And all three of them have a pair. I just can't think of what they will be used for. And thanks for everyone putting in to help make up the list. Especially popkin for doing all the books!! That takes dedication!!
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mollis - Jun 21, 2004 11:17 am (#83 of 135)
Edited by Jun 21, 2004 11:18 am
I don't think this has been mentioned in this thread, but there is a great essay on the Lexicon about this topic. You can find it here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Just thought you all might like to be aware of it, if you weren't already!
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popkin - Jun 21, 2004 3:29 pm (#84 of 135)
mother
Edited by Jun 21, 2004 3:44 pm
You're welcome.
mollis, that's a beautifully written essay by Morag Traynor. It's been a while since I read it; thanks for providing the link. Wouldn't it be nice if s/he would update it to include the insights from OotP?
The essay points out a possession we forgot: Harry's glasses.
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Robert Dierken - Jun 21, 2004 8:54 pm (#85 of 135)
I don't think Harry's glasses would be in the trunk, since he has to wear them.
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popkin - Jun 22, 2004 4:54 am (#86 of 135)
mother
You're right, of course, Robert, but we've almost compiled a complete list of Harry's possessions (Hedwig included). Which reminds me, the cage and owl treats should be on the list, too. I think, though, that the originator of the thread was looking for: What is Harry going to do with those items that have been described in detail only to be forgotten in the bottom of Harry's trunk?
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NYCNomad - Jun 22, 2004 5:08 am (#87 of 135)
After we've gotten everything else, down to the gifts from the Dursleys gifts, I would really hate to leave out his glasses, owl cage, and owl treats.
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Chris. - Jun 22, 2004 5:48 am (#88 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
But weren't the owl treats Ron's for Pig?
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NYCNomad - Jun 22, 2004 6:10 am (#89 of 135)
I would guess that Harry has some too, doesn't he give some to Hedwig at some point? The only thing that comes to mind is with Pig and Ron but, Harry must have some treats, right?
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popkin - Jun 23, 2004 1:43 am (#90 of 135)
mother
Edited by Jun 23, 2004 1:43 am
Now I don't know. In one of the books (COS?) he has nothing to feed Hedwig and gives her the vegetables from his cold, canned vegetable soup. Of course, as Harry grows older he probably has the insight to stock up on Hedwig's food for the summer.
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NYCNomad - Jun 23, 2004 5:08 am (#91 of 135)
Is his watch on the list anywhere? Is he still wearing it? Where and when did he get it? Is it still his watch from book four that broke in the second task?
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Padfoot - Jun 23, 2004 2:48 pm (#92 of 135)
I thought his watch was a cast off of Dudley's He was wearing it for a while after the second task. I doubt he wears it now though. Or would want to keep it.
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Chris. - Jun 24, 2004 2:59 am (#93 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I think he still wears it, though we don't know why. Even though it may not work after being in the water (2nd task), he's just got used to putting it on.
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alexa - Jun 24, 2004 5:28 pm (#94 of 135)
Elizabeth, I hope Harry "Scourgify" his quidditch robes!
Prongs, I do remembered in one of the books, Harry mentioned that he had finally "discarded his watch". I do not have the books with me but I think I have read it somewhere.
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Ozymandias - Jul 1, 2004 12:33 am (#95 of 135)
Nothing beside remains...
I was just doing a reread of PS/SS and on Harry's first trip to Diagon Alley he buys a pair of brass scales and a collapsible telescope. Have we seen these since?
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S.E. Jones - Jul 1, 2004 12:38 am (#96 of 135)
Let it snow!
Not per se, but I'm guessing the scales are used when he measures stuff out for potions, etc, and the telescope is used in his Astronomy class (which we've never seen)....
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Ozymandias - Jul 1, 2004 12:41 am (#97 of 135)
Nothing beside remains...
That's what I figured, but I thought it was a bit odd that they were mentioned so specifically when they were bought and then never mentioned again.
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Prefect Marcus - Jul 1, 2004 2:06 pm (#98 of 135)
"Anyone can cook"
Ah, but we did see his telescope at the Astronomy OWL.
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Chris. - Jul 2, 2004 4:17 am (#99 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
And there was a mention of his brass scales in PA. Seamus (or could be Dean) borrowed them. I think it was the Potions lesson that Draco teased Harry about knowing about what Sirius did.
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NYCNomad - Jul 2, 2004 5:12 am (#100 of 135)
I counted those things under his "school stuff" or something like that. I guess we could go through any figure out how many socks and jeans he has as well as what is all included in basic potion ingredients, but I didn't think there was much use for that.
Popkin, looks good, thanks for taking the time to write out all the books and sweaters and extra that I was to lazy to do.
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 7:33 am (#52 of 135)
mother
You're welcome, NYCNomad. As I look at the list, which is pretty long for a trunkful of stuff, the things that stand out the most form me are the gifts which Harry has never used. For a kid who never had a friend or gifts until he turned 11, he sure doesn't treasure their gestures of friendship like I would expect. Also, I want to see Harry make good use of his dream diary - Ron, too.
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 7:42 am (#53 of 135)
I always thought that was homework to be turned in and graded.
OH!! I forgot that he had an Eagle feather quill from Hermirone and he also got color changing ink in the first book.
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 7:46 am (#54 of 135)
mother
Darn. The edit option timed out, or I'd have added those to my list.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 15, 2004 8:08 am (#55 of 135)
How about miscellaneous dungbombs and zonkos stuff like them? And did he keep the pieces to his broken Nimbus 2000? I know he did at least for a little while...
Has anyone checked the passage where harry finds that his trunk has been invaded and riddle's diary stolen? I know it describes that his trunk contents are all over the floor, but I don't know if it describes them at all (I"m at work, so I can't check...)
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haymoni - Jun 15, 2004 8:17 am (#56 of 135)
I always pictured Harry's trunk to be huge - like a big steamer trunk. So I was a bit confused when I saw the suitcase-looking thing in the movie.
Is "trunk" a British term for "suitcase"?
I like my steamer trunk idea better - one with a spell similar to the one Arthur used on the car.
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 8:25 am (#57 of 135)
Accio Book 6, that's very good, I forgot about those Zonkos things, like the nose biting teacup and such. OH, and the programme from the World Cup.
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mike miller - Jun 15, 2004 8:28 am (#58 of 135)
aka The Barmy Old Codger
Harry's trunk in the movies seems almost a cross between a suitcase and a trunk; sort of a child's trunk. Kids clothes are smaller and you can easily get by with something samller.
However, referring back to the books (and canon), there seems to be several situations where people have trouble handling the kids trunks (it takes both Fred and George in CoS to get Harry's; and, getting all of them into the taxi's at the beginning of GoF for example).
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Accio Book Six - Jun 15, 2004 9:07 am (#59 of 135)
I am fairly certain that pretty much anything that you could buy in Diagon Alley would be magically modified. I'd wager my whole hardcover collection that his trunk could fit as much as he wants in it... just like the trunk (haha) of Arthurs old Ford Anglia. And I think that of course it would be heavy, as it carries all of his stuff. But that can be helped... doesn't harry ponder performing an enchantment on his trunk to make it feather light? That seems like it would be the first thing on a fully qualified wizard's mind before exerting ANY energy on barbaric muggle practices?
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NYCNomad - Jun 15, 2004 9:22 am (#60 of 135)
Some of the simplest and most common spells that seem to be most widely used is a space enhancing charm, like the tents at the world cup and the Ford. The feather light spell, Harry considered it an easy charm after 2 years of school. And as Flitwick said, the levitation charm, during their Halloween Charms class, book 1.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 15, 2004 10:48 am (#61 of 135)
Does anyone else feel sad for poor harry, that as a sixteen year old boy we are able to name every single one of his possessions? Poor poor deprived harry...
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popkin - Jun 15, 2004 3:52 pm (#62 of 135)
mother
Well.... He does have a vault full of gold at Gringott's. I have wondered if there might be something in the vault that Harry has not noticed before, since his parents may have stored other valuables there.
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Lady Nagini - Jun 15, 2004 4:04 pm (#63 of 135)
Edited by Jun 15, 2004 4:04 pm
Yeah, it's not that he doesn't have the means to buy whatever he wants. He just doesn't feel the need to do so. Well-grounded, I suppose...can we thank the Dursely's for that?
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Ladybug220 - Jun 15, 2004 8:14 pm (#64 of 135)
...moves faster than Severus Snape confronted with shampoo
I am confused. I thought that Hedwig had a cage and didn't ride in the trunk. Since she is a living creature, wouldn't she need the fresh air?
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NYCNomad - Jun 16, 2004 5:12 am (#65 of 135)
Lady Bug- Hedwig does have a cage and is not living in the trunk, but this is a list of all of his possesions. I started this thread in hopes of remembering some small detail that we could have forgotten. Such as the omniocculars. It seems they were bought up and left forgotten, not very much like JKR to drop something like that. Just looking to keep everything in plain sight.
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Ladybug220 - Jun 16, 2004 5:43 am (#66 of 135)
...moves faster than Severus Snape confronted with shampoo
Ok, I just had to check.
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Robert Dierken - Jun 16, 2004 7:06 pm (#67 of 135)
I think that Harry would also have the key to his Gringott's vault in the trunk.
In Chapter 2 of PoA I see that some time after Harry's fifth birthday Aunt Marge gave him a box of dog biscuits, but I doubt that he still has them.
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NYCNomad - Jun 17, 2004 5:26 am (#68 of 135)
I can't imagine that he would still have those. Perhaps that how he survived those long stays in the closet under the stairs.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 17, 2004 5:47 am (#69 of 135)
How about some Gold? Did anyone say that already? I"ve read this WHOLE thread recently, but I can't remember for the life of me.
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Accio Book Six - Jun 17, 2004 5:48 am (#70 of 135)
Yeah, it wasn't on those two big comprised lists. Ammend them and add: Money bag/Gold or something
EDIT: OOOHHHH! and his DA Galleon!
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Garion - Jun 18, 2004 1:52 am (#71 of 135)
Does Harry still have the Marauder's Map? I thought that he lent it Mad Eye Moody/ Barty Crouch in GOF. I don't recall him ever getting it back. I guess I will have to read it again.
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Mellilot Flower. - Jun 18, 2004 4:50 am (#72 of 135)
Pixie led
Yes he does, he uses it in OoP quite frequently, but we were never sure how he got it back...
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NYCNomad - Jun 18, 2004 5:09 am (#73 of 135)
JKR said in an interview that it went assumed that he got it back at the end of book four. It is one of the corrections she's going to make when she edits them all in the future.
(I hope I didn't just dream that up. I'm just starting my first cup of coffee and not really awake yet.)
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Julia. - Jun 18, 2004 10:12 am (#74 of 135)
74% obsessed! Uconn Jew Crew says: is it August yet?
You are not dreaming that up NYCNomad, and here is the proof.
HPFreak7: How did Harry get the Marauder's Map back, when Crouch Jr. had it last?
JK Rowling replies -> Loads of people have asked me this, I knew I should have shown Harry nipping into Moody's empty office and getting it back, but I assumed you'd all know that's what he did. Sorry! (from the World Book Day chat)
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NYCNomad - Jun 18, 2004 10:47 am (#75 of 135)
Thanks Julia, good to know I was semi-coherant this morning. Here is an updated list of everything that's been mentioned so far. What my initial idea with this was to try to pull out the things that were bought in and then left for forgotten that might come into play in later books. If I have any say in this particular thread, I would be most interested in hearing theories along those lines.
Hedwig
Trunk:
School supplies: Wand, cauldron, quills, parchment, potion ingredients (anyone have a list of those?),
School books: YEAR 1 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 1 by Miranda Goshawk A Beginner's Guide to Transfiguration by Emeric Switch A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshott Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore Magical Drafts and Potions by Arsenius Jigger Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander The Dark Forces: A Guide to Self-Protection by Quentin Trimble YEAR 2 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 2 by Miranda Goshawk Break With A Banshee by Gilderoy Lockhart Gadding with Ghouls by Gilderoy Lockhart Holidays with Hags by Gilderoy Lockhart Travels with Trolls by Gilderoy Lockhart Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart Wandering with Werewolves by Gilderoy Lockhart Year with the Yeti by Gilderoy Lockhart YEAR 3 Intermediate Transfiguration The Standard Book of Spells Grade 3 by Miranda Goshawk The Monster Book Of Monsters Unfogging the Future by Cassandra Vablatsky YEAR 4 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 4 by Miranda Goshawk YEAR 5 The Standard Book of Spells Grade 5 by Miranda Goshawk Defensive Magical Theory by Wilbert Slinkhard
Other books:
dream diary Homework diary (Hermione) Quidditch Teams of Brittain and Ireland (Hermione) Flying with the Cannons (Ron) Practical Defensive Magic and its Uses Against the Dark Arts (Sirius and Remus)
Clothes and other personal items: Weasley sweaters: SS/PS Emerald green CS New and hand-knitted PoA Scarlet with the Gryffindor lion on front GoF Green with a dragon on it OotP Usual Handknitted one
didn't some of those come with matching socks? School robes purchased 1st and 3rd year by Harry and 5th year by Mrs. Weasley. Dress robes purchased 4th year
Dudley and Vernon's cast-offs, including t-shirts, pants, belts, socks (he gave one pair to Dobby, but still has some) sneakers (trainers)
watch (maybe another cast-off from Dudley)
comb, toothbrush
Other Gifts: Photo album (Hagrid) Pocket Sneakoscope (Ron) Mirror, in peices (Sirius) Pocket knife (Sirius - I don't know if he'd still have this, as it was melted in the DOM) Firebolt (Sirius - presumably knicked out of Umbridge's office) Broom-care Servicing Kit (Hermione) Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore) Marauder's Map (Fred and George via Filch and the Marauders) Dobby's socks Dobby's portrait of Harry Mini Firebolt (Tonks) Dursley's toothpick, tissue, coat hanger (unlikely Harry kept these) Furry brown wallet (Hagrid) Hand-made flute (Hagrid)
Miscellaneous stuff: Color Changing Ink Eagle Feather Quill World Cup Program Various Zonko Supplies DA Galleon Money bag & money Golden Egg Letters and Birthday Cards, including one with a pawprint from Sirius Model of Hungarian Horntail Omnioculars S.P.E.W. badge and notebook from Hermione
some food (candy, left-over B-day cake, etc.) Wizard Chess Set (from Christmas cracker) Chocolate Frog Cards
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Accio Book Six - Jun 18, 2004 2:34 pm (#76 of 135)
applauds* Good job, NYCNomad!!!
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Padfoot - Jun 18, 2004 2:41 pm (#77 of 135)
That's a lot to bring to school every year! Very thorough list NYCNomad.
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popkin - Jun 18, 2004 5:38 pm (#78 of 135)
mother
Some of the big things Harry has not made good use of are: the omnioculars, the pocket sneakoscope, and Dobby's socks and portrait. Also, I'd like to see him take a trip to his bank vault and look around for anything that isn't actually money. The vault is really like an enormous safety deposit box - so I'd expect Lily and James to keep some non-monetary valuables there.
Harry's portrait is a painting - even if it does resemble a gibbon (am I remembering that right?), I would think it could talk like the other magical paintings. Is it just waiting for someone to strike up a conversation?
I would think the omnioculars would be ideal for any situation that Harry wanted to watch closely, since Harry could replay the entire scene afterwards and analyze it.
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freshwater - Jun 18, 2004 6:35 pm (#79 of 135)
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That's a very good point about the omniocculars, popkin!
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alexa - Jun 20, 2004 5:51 pm (#80 of 135)
What about his quidditch robes?
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Liz - Jun 20, 2004 5:55 pm (#81 of 135)
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I hope that those robes are clean.
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NYCNomad - Jun 21, 2004 10:42 am (#82 of 135)
I think the omniocculars have to come back, they were very detailed and very expensive! (10 Galleons!!) And all three of them have a pair. I just can't think of what they will be used for. And thanks for everyone putting in to help make up the list. Especially popkin for doing all the books!! That takes dedication!!
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mollis - Jun 21, 2004 11:17 am (#83 of 135)
Edited by Jun 21, 2004 11:18 am
I don't think this has been mentioned in this thread, but there is a great essay on the Lexicon about this topic. You can find it here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Just thought you all might like to be aware of it, if you weren't already!
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popkin - Jun 21, 2004 3:29 pm (#84 of 135)
mother
Edited by Jun 21, 2004 3:44 pm
You're welcome.
mollis, that's a beautifully written essay by Morag Traynor. It's been a while since I read it; thanks for providing the link. Wouldn't it be nice if s/he would update it to include the insights from OotP?
The essay points out a possession we forgot: Harry's glasses.
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Robert Dierken - Jun 21, 2004 8:54 pm (#85 of 135)
I don't think Harry's glasses would be in the trunk, since he has to wear them.
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popkin - Jun 22, 2004 4:54 am (#86 of 135)
mother
You're right, of course, Robert, but we've almost compiled a complete list of Harry's possessions (Hedwig included). Which reminds me, the cage and owl treats should be on the list, too. I think, though, that the originator of the thread was looking for: What is Harry going to do with those items that have been described in detail only to be forgotten in the bottom of Harry's trunk?
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NYCNomad - Jun 22, 2004 5:08 am (#87 of 135)
After we've gotten everything else, down to the gifts from the Dursleys gifts, I would really hate to leave out his glasses, owl cage, and owl treats.
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Chris. - Jun 22, 2004 5:48 am (#88 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
But weren't the owl treats Ron's for Pig?
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NYCNomad - Jun 22, 2004 6:10 am (#89 of 135)
I would guess that Harry has some too, doesn't he give some to Hedwig at some point? The only thing that comes to mind is with Pig and Ron but, Harry must have some treats, right?
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popkin - Jun 23, 2004 1:43 am (#90 of 135)
mother
Edited by Jun 23, 2004 1:43 am
Now I don't know. In one of the books (COS?) he has nothing to feed Hedwig and gives her the vegetables from his cold, canned vegetable soup. Of course, as Harry grows older he probably has the insight to stock up on Hedwig's food for the summer.
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NYCNomad - Jun 23, 2004 5:08 am (#91 of 135)
Is his watch on the list anywhere? Is he still wearing it? Where and when did he get it? Is it still his watch from book four that broke in the second task?
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Padfoot - Jun 23, 2004 2:48 pm (#92 of 135)
I thought his watch was a cast off of Dudley's He was wearing it for a while after the second task. I doubt he wears it now though. Or would want to keep it.
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Chris. - Jun 24, 2004 2:59 am (#93 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
I think he still wears it, though we don't know why. Even though it may not work after being in the water (2nd task), he's just got used to putting it on.
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alexa - Jun 24, 2004 5:28 pm (#94 of 135)
Elizabeth, I hope Harry "Scourgify" his quidditch robes!
Prongs, I do remembered in one of the books, Harry mentioned that he had finally "discarded his watch". I do not have the books with me but I think I have read it somewhere.
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Ozymandias - Jul 1, 2004 12:33 am (#95 of 135)
Nothing beside remains...
I was just doing a reread of PS/SS and on Harry's first trip to Diagon Alley he buys a pair of brass scales and a collapsible telescope. Have we seen these since?
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S.E. Jones - Jul 1, 2004 12:38 am (#96 of 135)
Let it snow!
Not per se, but I'm guessing the scales are used when he measures stuff out for potions, etc, and the telescope is used in his Astronomy class (which we've never seen)....
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Ozymandias - Jul 1, 2004 12:41 am (#97 of 135)
Nothing beside remains...
That's what I figured, but I thought it was a bit odd that they were mentioned so specifically when they were bought and then never mentioned again.
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Prefect Marcus - Jul 1, 2004 2:06 pm (#98 of 135)
"Anyone can cook"
Ah, but we did see his telescope at the Astronomy OWL.
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Chris. - Jul 2, 2004 4:17 am (#99 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
And there was a mention of his brass scales in PA. Seamus (or could be Dean) borrowed them. I think it was the Potions lesson that Draco teased Harry about knowing about what Sirius did.
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NYCNomad - Jul 2, 2004 5:12 am (#100 of 135)
I counted those things under his "school stuff" or something like that. I guess we could go through any figure out how many socks and jeans he has as well as what is all included in basic potion ingredients, but I didn't think there was much use for that.
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John Crichton - Jul 6, 2004 8:49 am (#101 of 135)
It was in OotP in which Harry finally discards his broken watch. I don't recall the chapter since I'm at work. As far as other materials for his posetions he would have loads of parchment full of class notes, homework thats been returned and exams.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 6, 2004 1:23 pm (#102 of 135)
In case I didn't mention it before, another possible item would be the arm that was ripped off the Krum action figure after the Yule Ball.
It is, however, possible that the action figure was repaired at some time, by either Harry or Ron.
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John Crichton - Jul 7, 2004 6:35 am (#103 of 135)
A couple other items that popped to mind. Dragon hide gloves, Pointed hat(listed seperately from robes in the book), ear muffs and glass/crystal phials.
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Prefect Marcus - Jul 7, 2004 7:34 am (#104 of 135)
"Anyone can cook"
Edited by Jul 7, 2004 7:35 am
Dragon hide gloves
I had to laugh. Why would a Dragon want to hide your gloves? English is wonderful for puns, isn't?
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NYCNomad - Jul 7, 2004 9:44 am (#105 of 135)
Robert, the Krum arm is Rons.
John, While those items are listed seperatly, I count those among standard school supplies.
I'mm happy this thread evolved into a full listing of everything, it includes things that I forgot about, or hinted at more importance of the smaller things. But my thought is to bring attention to the thing singular to Harry that could come back into play.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 7, 2004 6:32 pm (#106 of 135)
NYCNomad
I thought that Harry might have kept the arm so that the action figure could be repaired later. I think, however, that such a repair has probably taken place by the end of OoP.
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Ozymandias - Jul 7, 2004 10:59 pm (#107 of 135)
Nothing beside remains...
Dragon hide gloves -Marcus
Hehehehe.
Why does that make me think of Grawp? "Hermy! Dragon hide gloves! Grawp want gloves!"
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Robert Dierken - Jul 12, 2004 6:02 pm (#108 of 135)
Another thought:
One of the items mentioned was a money bag. I think that Harry would have some muggle money as well as wizard money. It would be very convenient when he is in Little Whinging!
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NYCNomad - Jul 13, 2004 5:11 am (#109 of 135)
I don't think he has any muggle money, unless he changed some over at Gringotts (spelling?). It says in book one that the Dursleys rarely gave him any pocket money, and since he started in Hogwarts that has probably even dropped to even less money. They clothe him and feed him, but just enough to keep him alive.
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Chris. - Jul 13, 2004 2:21 pm (#110 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
The only muggle money that I remember Harry having was the fifty-pence piece from the Dursleys, which, because it was such a weird shape to wizards, gave to Ron.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 13, 2004 8:29 pm (#111 of 135)
I note that in PS/SS, Hagrid and Harry depart from Diagon Alley, and travel to Paddington on the Underground, where Harry then takes a train back to Little Whinging.
In OoP, Arthur and Harry travel to the Ministry on the Underground.
Harry pays the fare on these occasions, and wizard money won't work.
Harry spends about three weeks in Diagon Alley in PoA, so he had plenty of opportunities to visit the bank and convert galleons to pounds. I consider that has done so, even if this is not specifically spelled out.
He does show up with a wristwatch in GoF, and I see two alternate theories about where he got it:
(1) He bought it in Diagon Alley with wizard money. (2) He bought it in Little Whinging with muggle money.
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Gemini12602 - Jul 13, 2004 9:33 pm (#112 of 135)
Just an odd though... I was reading the post talking about Krum's action figures arm. I wonder how it acted when it got ripped off. You gotta almost feel sorry the little guy lol.
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NYCNomad - Jul 14, 2004 4:54 am (#113 of 135)
On the occasions when Harry needed to use muggle money, (for the underground and for the camp site in GoF), the money was supplied by the adult wizards in the group, Hagrid or Mr. Weasley. Additionally, in book 3 after Harry storms out of the house he relates that he is lost and has no muggle money to hail a cab or a bus. He could have changed money to muggle money while he was in Diagon Alley but Fudge requested and Harry agreed to not leave Diagon Alley, so it would be useless for him to have any muggle money.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 14, 2004 6:39 pm (#114 of 135)
But the muggle money would be useful when he gets back to Little Whinging later (or anywhere else in muggle society).
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NYCNomad - Jul 15, 2004 4:57 am (#115 of 135)
How would it be useful? He spends his entire summer indoors where the Dursleys feed him and give him the bare needs of life. He has no muggle friends and no place of interest to go to. It would have been useful when he stormed out of the house in PoA, but that's really it.
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Tomoé - Jul 15, 2004 8:29 am (#116 of 135)
Back in business
If Harry had muggle money from PoA, wouldn't he spend some in the nearest convinience store to buy food instead of begging his friends in GoF? Of course, owl post is more discret than coming home with a bag of food, so I'm not sure that argument held any water. ^_^
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NYCNomad - Jul 15, 2004 9:42 am (#117 of 135)
There is also the argument that they didn't let Harry out very much that summer. If he could have he would have probably left almost all day and come back only to sleep. But he was always up and hiding in his room. Or being shut away in his room. And if he did have some money whould he take the underground or a cab, or bus to get to London as opposed to always asking the Dursleys? No matter how much money I didn't have, I would do all that I could to avoid asking them for favors, especially if it involves spending any amount of time shut in a car with them. I still fail to see why he would have any muggle money for the short time that he is home, or when he would have gotten it.
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penguin patronus - Jul 30, 2004 7:56 pm (#118 of 135)
"The map never lies!"
Hey! I'm new here, and I just remembered. They need dragon hide gloves for herbology. Furthermore from the first year list, there was also those plain black pointed hats, 1 set of glass phials, a telescope, and 1 set of brass scales. Oh yeah, probably some wizard money too.
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NYCNomad - Aug 1, 2004 7:15 am (#119 of 135)
Thanks for the input, I thought I had dragon hide gloves, but regardless, I just counted all that under "standard school supplies" Things that every student has and needs. We thought about including how many pairs of socks and jeans, t-shirts, ect, but really I was looking for things that might come back as important later in the series.
And welcome to the forum. Looking forward to all your other thoughts and ideas.
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Robert Dierken - Aug 1, 2004 6:00 pm (#120 of 135)
Two more items which Harry received out of the Christmas crackers:
(1) Pack of non-explodable, luminous balloons.
(2) Grow-Your-Own-Warts kit.
I don't know whether he would still have these, but there are also some number of items from the crackers that were not named.
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mononoke - Aug 2, 2004 7:50 am (#121 of 135)
hmmm...I'd love to see more scenes of the photo album(or any photoes).It's always the good resource of knowing the new characters and ...after OoP,maybe Harry'd spend some time with it.
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Chemyst - Aug 28, 2004 3:00 pm (#122 of 135)
"Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up." A.A. Milne
I'm posting today because by next weekend, with no additional post, this thread would have met its mulcher. Maybe we have compiled an exhaustive list of the first five books and there is nothing more to say, BUT... I'd really like to have a final, nicely formatted list to save.
If we are done here, I'd like to email the forum hosts to see if they could condense this thread and save a listing. But before I do, I thought I'd ask: is the list by popkin on June 15 the most complete list available? And has anyone kept up with additions since then?
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popkin - Aug 28, 2004 3:47 pm (#123 of 135)
mother
Edited by Aug 28, 2004 3:53 pm
This is an updated list with everything mentioned (except muggle money, which is debatable) since June 15th:
A Complete List of Harry's Belongings:
A Gringott’s vault full of gold
Hedwig
Cage
Owl treats
Trunk:
School supplies:
Wand, cauldron, quills, parchment, brass scales, collapsible telescope, Dragon hide gloves, glass/crystal phials. potion ingredients (anyone have a list of those?), eagle feather quill (from Hermione), color changing ink
School books:
YEAR 1
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 1 by Miranda Goshawk
A Beginner's Guide to Transfiguration by Emeric Switch
A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshott
Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling
One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore
Magical Drafts and Potions by Arsenius Jigger
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander
The Dark Forces: A Guide to Self-Protection by Quentin Trimble
YEAR 2
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 2 by Miranda Goshawk
Break With A Banshee by Gilderoy Lockhart
Gadding with Ghouls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Holidays with Hags by Gilderoy Lockhart
Travels with Trolls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart
Wandering with Werewolves by Gilderoy Lockhart
Year with the Yeti by Gilderoy Lockhart
YEAR 3
Intermediate Transfiguration
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 3 by Miranda Goshawk
The Monster Book Of Monsters
Unfogging the Future by Cassandra Vablatsky
YEAR 4
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 4 by Miranda Goshawk
YEAR 5
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 5 by Miranda Goshawk
Defensive Magical Theory by Wilbert Slinkhard
Other books:
dream diary
Homework diary (Hermione)
Quidditch Teams of Brittain and Ireland (Hermione)
Flying with the Cannons (Ron)
Practical Defensive Magic and its Uses Against the Dark Arts (Sirius and Remus)
Clothes and other personal items:
glasses
Weasley sweaters:
• SS/PS Emerald green
• CS New and hand-knitted
• PoA Scarlet with the Gryffindor lion on front
• GoF Green with a dragon on it
• OotP Usual Handknitted one
didn't some of those come with matching socks?
Pointed hat(listed seperately from robes in the book),
ear muff
School robes purchased 1st and 3rd year by Harry and 5th year by Mrs. Weasley.
Dress robes purchased 4th year
Quidditch robes
Dudley and Vernon's cast-offs, including t-shirts, pants, belts, socks (he gave one pair to Dobby, but still has some)
sneakers (trainers)
watch, broken during second task in GOF (maybe another cast-off from Dudley)
comb, toothbrush
Other Gifts:
Photo album (Hagrid)
Pocket Sneakoscope (Ron)
Mirror, in peices (Sirius)
Pocket knife (Sirius - I don't know if he'd still have this, as it was melted in the DOM)
Firebolt (Sirius - presumably knicked out of Umbridge's office)
Broom-care Servicing Kit (Hermione)
Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore)
Marauder's Map (Fred and George via Filch and the Marauders)
Dobby's socks
Dobby's portrait of Harry
Mini Firebolt (Tonks)
Dursley's toothpick, tissue, coat hanger (unlikely Harry kept these)
Furry brown wallet (Hagrid)
Hand-made flute (Hagrid)
Miscellaneous stuff:
Golden Egg
Letters and Birthday Cards, including one with a pawprint from Sirius
Model of Hungarian Horntail
Omnioculars
S.P.E.W. badge and notebook from Hermione
some food (candy, left-over B-day cake, etc.)
Wizard Chess Set (from Christmas cracker)
Chocolate Frog Cards
Zonko’s stuff (nose biting teacup?)
Key to Gringott’s vault
World Cup Program
Pack of non-explodable, luminous balloons. (Christmas Cracker)
Grow-Your-Own-Warts kit.(Christmas Cracker)
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Robert Dierken - Aug 28, 2004 6:57 pm (#124 of 135)
Rerun on the muggle money point:
Before the Knight Bus comes, Harry has no muggle money, and thus cannot take muggle transport to escape from Little Whinging. This leaves him with the motive for getting some to put in his trunk for future emergencies.
After Harry gets to Diagon Alley, he spends about two weeks there, and so has the opportunity to exchange some wizard money for muggle money.
I think that it is logical that Harry would have seized the opportunity to put some muggle money into his trunk.
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Tomoé - Aug 29, 2004 6:23 pm (#125 of 135)
Back in business
left-over B-day cake ... hmm how old can it get? I mean ... since GoF ... cause Harry didn't get cakes in OoP ... that's two years already ... Harry will sure be about to teach it some trick ... I mean ... after two years ... a B-cake is almost alive ... I mean ... Yeurk
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popkin - Aug 29, 2004 9:22 pm (#126 of 135)
mother
I don't figure Harry has any birthday cake left, but that he often has some sort of food on hand. Birthday cake was just an example of the type of food he sometimes has.
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Tomoé - Aug 29, 2004 9:30 pm (#127 of 135)
Back in business
Ok, It sounds better now. I think I need some rest at St Mungo's. ^_^
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lobelia - Aug 30, 2004 9:10 am (#128 of 135)
Harry had a cold weather cloak...not much is described about it. He wished he had it when he went to Hogsmeade and it was cold.
I saw under the presents that the list has Dobby's socks that he gave Harry. I think we should add that they were mismatched and they had snitches on them. I think there is a remark from Moody (Barty Crouch) about them during the Filch/Snape/Moody/Egg Scene.
There was also a manual with the Servicing Kit. He was reciting it during Aunt Marge's visit, whenever she angered him.
He also has a school bag to carry all of his school books.
What ever happened to the pieces of the Nimbus 2000. He did not want to get rid of them in the infirmary.
What ever happened to his shamrock pin he bought at the World Cup?
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TwinklingBlueEyes - Aug 30, 2004 9:13 am (#129 of 135)
"Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking"
Methinks Harry is soon going to need a bigger trunk. :-)
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lobelia - Aug 30, 2004 9:17 am (#130 of 135)
Either that or there is a lump in the middle of his bedroom at Private Drive under the floorboards. Perhaps the old cakes are still there.
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Robert Dierken - Aug 31, 2004 8:33 pm (#131 of 135)
Another possible item: A hairpin. (Unless he keeps it clipped to his robe, but he might have several of them.)
In CoS, George unlocks the bedroom door and closet door at Number 4 by picking the locks with a hairpin.
In PoA, Harry unlocks the closet to get his trunk before he runs away, probably by picking the lock.
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Paulus Maximus - Sep 2, 2004 9:58 am (#132 of 135)
"Methinks Harry is soon going to need a bigger trunk. :-)"
Why not simply put an enchantment on the trunk to make it bigger on the inside, like Mr Weasly did with the Fold Anglia?
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TwinklingBlueEyes - Sep 2, 2004 2:26 pm (#133 of 135)
"Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking"
Glad you thought of that! It hadn't occured to me.
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Chemyst - Oct 2, 2004 2:58 pm (#134 of 135)
"Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up." A.A. Milne
Or divide it into compartments like the one Mad Eye was kept in...
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Kip Carter - Nov 1, 2004 4:57 am (#135 of 135)
co-Host with Steve on the Lexicon Forum, but he has the final say as the Owner!
I have given this thread temporary permanent status sso that our editors can reduce the posts to a list of what was in Harry's Trunk.
It was in OotP in which Harry finally discards his broken watch. I don't recall the chapter since I'm at work. As far as other materials for his posetions he would have loads of parchment full of class notes, homework thats been returned and exams.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 6, 2004 1:23 pm (#102 of 135)
In case I didn't mention it before, another possible item would be the arm that was ripped off the Krum action figure after the Yule Ball.
It is, however, possible that the action figure was repaired at some time, by either Harry or Ron.
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John Crichton - Jul 7, 2004 6:35 am (#103 of 135)
A couple other items that popped to mind. Dragon hide gloves, Pointed hat(listed seperately from robes in the book), ear muffs and glass/crystal phials.
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Prefect Marcus - Jul 7, 2004 7:34 am (#104 of 135)
"Anyone can cook"
Edited by Jul 7, 2004 7:35 am
Dragon hide gloves
I had to laugh. Why would a Dragon want to hide your gloves? English is wonderful for puns, isn't?
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NYCNomad - Jul 7, 2004 9:44 am (#105 of 135)
Robert, the Krum arm is Rons.
John, While those items are listed seperatly, I count those among standard school supplies.
I'mm happy this thread evolved into a full listing of everything, it includes things that I forgot about, or hinted at more importance of the smaller things. But my thought is to bring attention to the thing singular to Harry that could come back into play.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 7, 2004 6:32 pm (#106 of 135)
NYCNomad
I thought that Harry might have kept the arm so that the action figure could be repaired later. I think, however, that such a repair has probably taken place by the end of OoP.
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Ozymandias - Jul 7, 2004 10:59 pm (#107 of 135)
Nothing beside remains...
Dragon hide gloves -Marcus
Hehehehe.
Why does that make me think of Grawp? "Hermy! Dragon hide gloves! Grawp want gloves!"
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Robert Dierken - Jul 12, 2004 6:02 pm (#108 of 135)
Another thought:
One of the items mentioned was a money bag. I think that Harry would have some muggle money as well as wizard money. It would be very convenient when he is in Little Whinging!
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NYCNomad - Jul 13, 2004 5:11 am (#109 of 135)
I don't think he has any muggle money, unless he changed some over at Gringotts (spelling?). It says in book one that the Dursleys rarely gave him any pocket money, and since he started in Hogwarts that has probably even dropped to even less money. They clothe him and feed him, but just enough to keep him alive.
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Chris. - Jul 13, 2004 2:21 pm (#110 of 135)
HBP: 16th July 2005: the most anticipated day in history
The only muggle money that I remember Harry having was the fifty-pence piece from the Dursleys, which, because it was such a weird shape to wizards, gave to Ron.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 13, 2004 8:29 pm (#111 of 135)
I note that in PS/SS, Hagrid and Harry depart from Diagon Alley, and travel to Paddington on the Underground, where Harry then takes a train back to Little Whinging.
In OoP, Arthur and Harry travel to the Ministry on the Underground.
Harry pays the fare on these occasions, and wizard money won't work.
Harry spends about three weeks in Diagon Alley in PoA, so he had plenty of opportunities to visit the bank and convert galleons to pounds. I consider that has done so, even if this is not specifically spelled out.
He does show up with a wristwatch in GoF, and I see two alternate theories about where he got it:
(1) He bought it in Diagon Alley with wizard money. (2) He bought it in Little Whinging with muggle money.
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Gemini12602 - Jul 13, 2004 9:33 pm (#112 of 135)
Just an odd though... I was reading the post talking about Krum's action figures arm. I wonder how it acted when it got ripped off. You gotta almost feel sorry the little guy lol.
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NYCNomad - Jul 14, 2004 4:54 am (#113 of 135)
On the occasions when Harry needed to use muggle money, (for the underground and for the camp site in GoF), the money was supplied by the adult wizards in the group, Hagrid or Mr. Weasley. Additionally, in book 3 after Harry storms out of the house he relates that he is lost and has no muggle money to hail a cab or a bus. He could have changed money to muggle money while he was in Diagon Alley but Fudge requested and Harry agreed to not leave Diagon Alley, so it would be useless for him to have any muggle money.
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Robert Dierken - Jul 14, 2004 6:39 pm (#114 of 135)
But the muggle money would be useful when he gets back to Little Whinging later (or anywhere else in muggle society).
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NYCNomad - Jul 15, 2004 4:57 am (#115 of 135)
How would it be useful? He spends his entire summer indoors where the Dursleys feed him and give him the bare needs of life. He has no muggle friends and no place of interest to go to. It would have been useful when he stormed out of the house in PoA, but that's really it.
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Tomoé - Jul 15, 2004 8:29 am (#116 of 135)
Back in business
If Harry had muggle money from PoA, wouldn't he spend some in the nearest convinience store to buy food instead of begging his friends in GoF? Of course, owl post is more discret than coming home with a bag of food, so I'm not sure that argument held any water. ^_^
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NYCNomad - Jul 15, 2004 9:42 am (#117 of 135)
There is also the argument that they didn't let Harry out very much that summer. If he could have he would have probably left almost all day and come back only to sleep. But he was always up and hiding in his room. Or being shut away in his room. And if he did have some money whould he take the underground or a cab, or bus to get to London as opposed to always asking the Dursleys? No matter how much money I didn't have, I would do all that I could to avoid asking them for favors, especially if it involves spending any amount of time shut in a car with them. I still fail to see why he would have any muggle money for the short time that he is home, or when he would have gotten it.
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penguin patronus - Jul 30, 2004 7:56 pm (#118 of 135)
"The map never lies!"
Hey! I'm new here, and I just remembered. They need dragon hide gloves for herbology. Furthermore from the first year list, there was also those plain black pointed hats, 1 set of glass phials, a telescope, and 1 set of brass scales. Oh yeah, probably some wizard money too.
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NYCNomad - Aug 1, 2004 7:15 am (#119 of 135)
Thanks for the input, I thought I had dragon hide gloves, but regardless, I just counted all that under "standard school supplies" Things that every student has and needs. We thought about including how many pairs of socks and jeans, t-shirts, ect, but really I was looking for things that might come back as important later in the series.
And welcome to the forum. Looking forward to all your other thoughts and ideas.
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Robert Dierken - Aug 1, 2004 6:00 pm (#120 of 135)
Two more items which Harry received out of the Christmas crackers:
(1) Pack of non-explodable, luminous balloons.
(2) Grow-Your-Own-Warts kit.
I don't know whether he would still have these, but there are also some number of items from the crackers that were not named.
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mononoke - Aug 2, 2004 7:50 am (#121 of 135)
hmmm...I'd love to see more scenes of the photo album(or any photoes).It's always the good resource of knowing the new characters and ...
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Chemyst - Aug 28, 2004 3:00 pm (#122 of 135)
"Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up." A.A. Milne
I'm posting today because by next weekend, with no additional post, this thread would have met its mulcher. Maybe we have compiled an exhaustive list of the first five books and there is nothing more to say, BUT... I'd really like to have a final, nicely formatted list to save.
If we are done here, I'd like to email the forum hosts to see if they could condense this thread and save a listing. But before I do, I thought I'd ask: is the list by popkin on June 15 the most complete list available? And has anyone kept up with additions since then?
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popkin - Aug 28, 2004 3:47 pm (#123 of 135)
mother
Edited by Aug 28, 2004 3:53 pm
This is an updated list with everything mentioned (except muggle money, which is debatable) since June 15th:
A Complete List of Harry's Belongings:
A Gringott’s vault full of gold
Hedwig
Cage
Owl treats
Trunk:
School supplies:
Wand, cauldron, quills, parchment, brass scales, collapsible telescope, Dragon hide gloves, glass/crystal phials. potion ingredients (anyone have a list of those?), eagle feather quill (from Hermione), color changing ink
School books:
YEAR 1
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 1 by Miranda Goshawk
A Beginner's Guide to Transfiguration by Emeric Switch
A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshott
Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling
One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi by Phyllida Spore
Magical Drafts and Potions by Arsenius Jigger
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander
The Dark Forces: A Guide to Self-Protection by Quentin Trimble
YEAR 2
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 2 by Miranda Goshawk
Break With A Banshee by Gilderoy Lockhart
Gadding with Ghouls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Holidays with Hags by Gilderoy Lockhart
Travels with Trolls by Gilderoy Lockhart
Voyages with Vampires by Gilderoy Lockhart
Wandering with Werewolves by Gilderoy Lockhart
Year with the Yeti by Gilderoy Lockhart
YEAR 3
Intermediate Transfiguration
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 3 by Miranda Goshawk
The Monster Book Of Monsters
Unfogging the Future by Cassandra Vablatsky
YEAR 4
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 4 by Miranda Goshawk
YEAR 5
The Standard Book of Spells Grade 5 by Miranda Goshawk
Defensive Magical Theory by Wilbert Slinkhard
Other books:
dream diary
Homework diary (Hermione)
Quidditch Teams of Brittain and Ireland (Hermione)
Flying with the Cannons (Ron)
Practical Defensive Magic and its Uses Against the Dark Arts (Sirius and Remus)
Clothes and other personal items:
glasses
Weasley sweaters:
• SS/PS Emerald green
• CS New and hand-knitted
• PoA Scarlet with the Gryffindor lion on front
• GoF Green with a dragon on it
• OotP Usual Handknitted one
didn't some of those come with matching socks?
Pointed hat(listed seperately from robes in the book),
ear muff
School robes purchased 1st and 3rd year by Harry and 5th year by Mrs. Weasley.
Dress robes purchased 4th year
Quidditch robes
Dudley and Vernon's cast-offs, including t-shirts, pants, belts, socks (he gave one pair to Dobby, but still has some)
sneakers (trainers)
watch, broken during second task in GOF (maybe another cast-off from Dudley)
comb, toothbrush
Other Gifts:
Photo album (Hagrid)
Pocket Sneakoscope (Ron)
Mirror, in peices (Sirius)
Pocket knife (Sirius - I don't know if he'd still have this, as it was melted in the DOM)
Firebolt (Sirius - presumably knicked out of Umbridge's office)
Broom-care Servicing Kit (Hermione)
Invisability cloak (James through Dumbledore)
Marauder's Map (Fred and George via Filch and the Marauders)
Dobby's socks
Dobby's portrait of Harry
Mini Firebolt (Tonks)
Dursley's toothpick, tissue, coat hanger (unlikely Harry kept these)
Furry brown wallet (Hagrid)
Hand-made flute (Hagrid)
Miscellaneous stuff:
Golden Egg
Letters and Birthday Cards, including one with a pawprint from Sirius
Model of Hungarian Horntail
Omnioculars
S.P.E.W. badge and notebook from Hermione
some food (candy, left-over B-day cake, etc.)
Wizard Chess Set (from Christmas cracker)
Chocolate Frog Cards
Zonko’s stuff (nose biting teacup?)
Key to Gringott’s vault
World Cup Program
Pack of non-explodable, luminous balloons. (Christmas Cracker)
Grow-Your-Own-Warts kit.(Christmas Cracker)
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Robert Dierken - Aug 28, 2004 6:57 pm (#124 of 135)
Rerun on the muggle money point:
Before the Knight Bus comes, Harry has no muggle money, and thus cannot take muggle transport to escape from Little Whinging. This leaves him with the motive for getting some to put in his trunk for future emergencies.
After Harry gets to Diagon Alley, he spends about two weeks there, and so has the opportunity to exchange some wizard money for muggle money.
I think that it is logical that Harry would have seized the opportunity to put some muggle money into his trunk.
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Tomoé - Aug 29, 2004 6:23 pm (#125 of 135)
Back in business
left-over B-day cake ... hmm how old can it get? I mean ... since GoF ... cause Harry didn't get cakes in OoP ... that's two years already ... Harry will sure be about to teach it some trick ... I mean ... after two years ... a B-cake is almost alive ... I mean ... Yeurk
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popkin - Aug 29, 2004 9:22 pm (#126 of 135)
mother
I don't figure Harry has any birthday cake left, but that he often has some sort of food on hand. Birthday cake was just an example of the type of food he sometimes has.
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Tomoé - Aug 29, 2004 9:30 pm (#127 of 135)
Back in business
Ok, It sounds better now. I think I need some rest at St Mungo's. ^_^
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lobelia - Aug 30, 2004 9:10 am (#128 of 135)
Harry had a cold weather cloak...not much is described about it. He wished he had it when he went to Hogsmeade and it was cold.
I saw under the presents that the list has Dobby's socks that he gave Harry. I think we should add that they were mismatched and they had snitches on them. I think there is a remark from Moody (Barty Crouch) about them during the Filch/Snape/Moody/Egg Scene.
There was also a manual with the Servicing Kit. He was reciting it during Aunt Marge's visit, whenever she angered him.
He also has a school bag to carry all of his school books.
What ever happened to the pieces of the Nimbus 2000. He did not want to get rid of them in the infirmary.
What ever happened to his shamrock pin he bought at the World Cup?
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TwinklingBlueEyes - Aug 30, 2004 9:13 am (#129 of 135)
"Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking"
Methinks Harry is soon going to need a bigger trunk. :-)
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lobelia - Aug 30, 2004 9:17 am (#130 of 135)
Either that or there is a lump in the middle of his bedroom at Private Drive under the floorboards. Perhaps the old cakes are still there.
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Robert Dierken - Aug 31, 2004 8:33 pm (#131 of 135)
Another possible item: A hairpin. (Unless he keeps it clipped to his robe, but he might have several of them.)
In CoS, George unlocks the bedroom door and closet door at Number 4 by picking the locks with a hairpin.
In PoA, Harry unlocks the closet to get his trunk before he runs away, probably by picking the lock.
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Paulus Maximus - Sep 2, 2004 9:58 am (#132 of 135)
"Methinks Harry is soon going to need a bigger trunk. :-)"
Why not simply put an enchantment on the trunk to make it bigger on the inside, like Mr Weasly did with the Fold Anglia?
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TwinklingBlueEyes - Sep 2, 2004 2:26 pm (#133 of 135)
"Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking"
Glad you thought of that! It hadn't occured to me.
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Chemyst - Oct 2, 2004 2:58 pm (#134 of 135)
"Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up." A.A. Milne
Or divide it into compartments like the one Mad Eye was kept in...
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Kip Carter - Nov 1, 2004 4:57 am (#135 of 135)
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I have given this thread temporary permanent status sso that our editors can reduce the posts to a list of what was in Harry's Trunk.
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