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Ainsley Black - Jan 1, 2005 8:59 am (#1201 of 2930)
Well it's 4pm here in the UK and the Rumors ansd Newspaper pages are blank for me too! Also the Fansite page isn't showing everything. The Links page seems all there as is the same with the Extra's page and the Rubbish page and FAQ's too!
I reckon it's just a glitch because of the new year.
Happy New Year all and i hope it brings with it success, joy and good fortune.
Prefect Marcus - Jan 1, 2005 9:27 am (#1202 of 2930)
I reckon it's just a glitch because of the new year.
I suspect you are right. Just call it a Y2005 problem.
septentrion - Jan 1, 2005 9:27 am (#1203 of 2930)
Good news : the old stuff is available on the text version of the site. Yet I hope we'll find our usual site back soon.
Aurora Gubbins - Jan 1, 2005 2:10 pm (#1204 of 2930)
Thora: re post #1175 - thanks for that info, I'll start researching those books when the children are returned. (To school!)
Hollywand - Jan 1, 2005 3:06 pm (#1205 of 2930)
Happy New Year everyone! What a hoot to return and read that some suspected me of being our drama queen extraordinairre!
I will share with you that I encountered someone on Mugglenet I suspect may have been Rowling. This individual had an exquisite command of Latin, French and Portuguese, in addition to a wonderfully distinct writing voice. That combination would be a bit difficult to fake.
This individual created several screen characters, and created a whole hilariously chaotic drama right on line. I was on Mugglenet looking for book clues amidst the trolling and flaming, and there she was, with others being really unkind and rude to her.
So, yes, let's all be kind to each other, regardless of the possibility that they may or may not be our revered Drama Queen.
Cheers, and Felix Felicis! :0)
Sadie - Jan 1, 2005 6:00 pm (#1206 of 2930)
So, yes, let's all be kind to each other, regardless of the possibility that they may or may not be our revered Drama Queen.
Lovely idea. Wizards and Muggles who are kind to one another.
Happy New Year all.
buggirl - Jan 1, 2005 6:29 pm (#1207 of 2930)
I would like to see some spoilers on the web site
LilyP - Jan 1, 2005 7:37 pm (#1208 of 2930)
Anyone out there? I am having a weird glitch - besides everything being wiped clean. The phone keeps ringing - it won't stop - and I can't answer it. It's been ringing for about 30 minutes straight. I'm a little afraid to change screens, because I don't want it to stop, but it is getting a little annoying. Anyone have any ideas of numbers I can try (besides MAGIC and PEEVES). Just in case it is an opening to dial something.
Ydnam96 - Jan 1, 2005 7:40 pm (#1209 of 2930)
I tried dialing 2005 this am. Just for kicks...nothing happened. but I think you might have a glitch...
the7eagle - Jan 1, 2005 8:02 pm (#1210 of 2930)
Just one question
did the pins on the desktop(faq) always form a quesion mark
when the mouse hovered over it
Amilia Smith - Jan 1, 2005 8:05 pm (#1211 of 2930)
Prefect Marcus - Jan 1, 2005 8:26 pm (#1212 of 2930)
They form an 'X' when the FAQ letters are showing.
LilyP - Jan 1, 2005 8:34 pm (#1213 of 2930)
I read somewhere that if you change the date on you computer back to 2004, you get all the information back again.
Nolifeonvenus - Jan 1, 2005 10:37 pm (#1214 of 2930)
I just tried to change the date on my computer to December 2004, and it worked - I was able to see Rumours, News and Biography sections like they were before. The wizard of the month didn't change back, though.
dizzy lizzy - Jan 1, 2005 11:41 pm (#1215 of 2930)
I think its because the "flash" version has been tidied up for lots more interesting things. I think it was done to allow the site to load faster when we will be really interested in 2005 happenings on the "flash" site.
When you go in and check the "text" site, you have a link to all the 2004 stuff. The text site uses less memory and is quicker to load and therefore can hold a lot more stuff.
Does this help/make sense??
The giant squid - Jan 1, 2005 11:54 pm (#1216 of 2930)
Eagle/Marcus: The paper clips form a question mark when you hover over them, but once you click on them & open the FAQ they form an X when you hold the mouse over them.
So you're both right.
From Venus - Jan 2, 2005 3:18 am (#1217 of 2930)
It is now 5am, Jan. 2 in southern Indiana, USA and the news and rumor pages are still blank and the trophy room still has no names. I hope it means there's new stuff coming. I just love updates.
As for taking down decorations...my mom and dad always took our stuff down right after new years, but there were 6 of us kids, and that could be why. My husband and I usually waited until the Sunday after Epiphany, which is the Baptism of Jesus, and the close of the liturgical Christmas season. However, due to my severe case of procrastination, my husband had to threaten to hang shamrocks on the tree last year, for me to finally get it taken down.
I think that if desks are any indication, I would guess that Jo's decorations don't come down much sooner that because when I have her "desk top" on my "desk top" it's hard to tell where one ends and the other starts.
Kerstin - Jan 2, 2005 4:34 am (#1218 of 2930)
The site is working correctly again, on the rumours and news section you have a button now to turn the pages. I have expected something like this, because there were page numbers on the blank sites and little rectangles in the foot banners have been left out where now the page turn buttons are.
Cat 7 of 9 - Jan 2, 2005 6:38 am (#1219 of 2930)
Its 1.30pm in UK still no change to news etc (blank pages), Kerstin where is the button? Can you get a picture of it?
Thanks and Happy New Year to Jo and family, Lexicon and everyone else!
the7eagle - Jan 2, 2005 6:44 am (#1220 of 2930)
I can see the rectangles but no buttons
can u get the pictures
Ainsley Black - Jan 2, 2005 10:55 am (#1221 of 2930)
Sorry this is Soo off topic but I just wondered (because I can't see it) is there a thread about the Riddle House?
I am wondering who owns it? Just reading GOF (AGAIN!) and at the begining (UK Hard-back edition P 10) it says that it is owned by a wealthy man but who is he??? Is he DD or Malfoy perhaps????
Gina R Snape - Jan 2, 2005 12:41 pm (#1222 of 2930)
Presumably, Voldemort owns the Riddle house since he knew it was vacant when he went there with Wormtail. You might want to start a thread to discuss this topic, if there isn't one running already.
I'm surprised there haven't been any new birthdays yet. I am beginning to think JKR really will only post friends of Harry.
Ainsley Black - Jan 2, 2005 12:52 pm (#1223 of 2930)
We should look out for someone on the 21st March as that is the Spring Equinox, was there any birthday on September 21st I can't remember?
Kerstin - Jan 2, 2005 2:40 pm (#1224 of 2930)
Sorry, I was wrong. The date on my computer was set to Dec 31, now I'm on my Notebook and the pages are white. Sorry for the misleading post, I hope not too many of you were searching for non-existing buttons.
Hollywand - Jan 2, 2005 2:46 pm (#1225 of 2930)
I'm thinking Rowling will mark Voldy's birthday in January sometime on her site---either the 13th or the 31st. :-0
KWeldon - Jan 2, 2005 2:47 pm (#1226 of 2930)
I thought his birthday was Oct. 31? No idea where that came from, though.
Hollywand - Jan 2, 2005 2:53 pm (#1227 of 2930)
Could be, Kurt. I don't recall seeing Voldy's exact birthday mentioned just yet. I suppose he has had two, if you count his reincarnation.
October 31 I recall as the day Harry's parents died, and Nick's Deathday, um, party.
I'm thinking the January date for Voldemort in opposition to Harry's birthday on July 31, the Oak King/Holly King association.
Could be mistaken, it's definitely happened before.....
Gina R Snape - Jan 2, 2005 3:14 pm (#1228 of 2930)
:imagines the DEs throwing a birthday party for the Dark Lord: *snort*
It would be interesting if he shared a birthday with Harry, no? Anyway, I highly doubt JKR will let us in on his birthday.
KWeldon - Jan 2, 2005 3:16 pm (#1229 of 2930)
October 31 I recall as the day Harry's parents died, and Nick's Deathday, um, party
I had remembered this. I'm thinking I had seen another poster on the forum refer to it as his birthday, which certainly is not canon, but so many people here can recall so much more of the books than I can, so I assumed it was accurate. We'll see soon, if your theory is right.
BTW, my name isn't Kurt. I'm a female.
Cat 7 of 9 - Jan 2, 2005 3:30 pm (#1230 of 2930)
Does anyone know what Voldemort's wand is made of, I know it has a pheonix feather core (we all know that) but what wood? It could indicate the season he was born in.
Kirstin, it was fun searching for the buttons it took my mind off the news for a while.
KWeldon - Jan 2, 2005 3:31 pm (#1231 of 2930)
It's made of yew.
Cat 7 of 9 - Jan 2, 2005 3:37 pm (#1232 of 2930)
Thanks Karen, I'll go look it up :-)
Cat 7 of 9 - Jan 2, 2005 4:39 pm (#1233 of 2930)
This is what I've found so far ( info from "First Report of the Fairyland Trust}
Oct/Nov (Samhain) Yew & Elder.
I wonder if this means Voldemort was born in October or November? Are you ever going to tell us Jo?
Sadie - Jan 2, 2005 4:58 pm (#1234 of 2930)
Several of my pages are still blank. Am I alone?
Cat 7 of 9 - Jan 2, 2005 5:04 pm (#1235 of 2930)
No the news & rumours pages are still blank for me too.
Auror Tonks - Jan 2, 2005 5:28 pm (#1236 of 2930)
it is still blank for me as well except for the ads at the bottom
Hogs Head - Jan 2, 2005 5:42 pm (#1237 of 2930)
What I'm guessing is that the site is messed up -- perhaps has been since "the Big Candy" caper -- and it will be fixed tomorrow (Monday) or soon after everyone gets back to work from the holidays. Tomorrow will be a big day back at the office for many of us, with lots of work stacked up. So, for today I can allow the techies who work so diligently on the site the same time off I've enjoyed. I hope they've had and are having a nice holiday.
Happy New Years, tech guys. I enjoy your good work on the site.
Flutterby - Jan 2, 2005 7:23 pm (#1238 of 2930)
HEY!!!!! Has anyone noticed this in the ads at the bottom of the Rumours page?
This IS new right?
KWeldon - Jan 2, 2005 7:29 pm (#1239 of 2930)
I'm pretty sure that's not new.
Gina R Snape - Jan 2, 2005 7:51 pm (#1240 of 2930)
I don't see an image. All I see is a square with a ? in it.
Grindylow - Jan 2, 2005 7:53 pm (#1241 of 2930)
I get the box with the red X in it...
Hollywand - Jan 2, 2005 7:56 pm (#1242 of 2930)
If the ads are for Gerda Curd and Muggle Repellers and the Quibbler, they have been there a bit.
Apologies to KWeldon for the gender faux pas!
Flutterby - Jan 2, 2005 7:56 pm (#1243 of 2930)
AGAIN? I seem to mess these things up ALOT!
Is it visable?
From Venus - Jan 2, 2005 8:06 pm (#1244 of 2930)
It's 10pm here on Jan.2 and there are still blank pages. I tend to agree with Hogs Head. I think that something probably got messed up and they'll be working on it when the holidays are over. Although it would be nice if it means we're getting some new stuff.
And, no, Flutterby, it still just shows a box with an X in it.
Flutterby - Jan 2, 2005 8:12 pm (#1245 of 2930)
It's a screen cap from the rumours page, it says:
In this week's issue ~ Fudge Forced to Flee! Minister for Magic Chased From Office!
I've never seen this ad before, maybe one of you have.
riotgrrrl - Jan 2, 2005 8:21 pm (#1246 of 2930)
I saw that ad at the end of last month (a week or two before Christmas) but I don't remember it from before then. I don't actually have it now, it's an ad for a concert (no muggles allowed) and I think that one may be new too. Can anyone confirm?
Grindylow - Jan 2, 2005 8:46 pm (#1247 of 2930)
That ad has been there for quite a while... Sorry
Flutterby - Jan 2, 2005 8:54 pm (#1248 of 2930)
Trying this just one more time becausee it REALLY bugs me that it won't work for me!
I promise if this doesn't work I WILL NOT try again!
Ydnam96 - Jan 2, 2005 9:04 pm (#1249 of 2930)
Flutterby, now all I see is an ad for tripod.com, but no picture JK's site is still all blank for me on the news and rumor pages
Gina R Snape - Jan 2, 2005 9:25 pm (#1250 of 2930)
now all I see is an ad for tripod.com, but no picture
Me too. But on the plus side, I've not seen a tripod ad on JKR's website!
Hollywand - Jan 2, 2005 9:29 pm (#1251 of 2930)
The Fudge Flees/Quibbler ad has been there for a while.
Flutterby - Jan 2, 2005 11:29 pm (#1252 of 2930)
UGgggggggggh! I give up!!! LOL Once again I'm a day late and a Dollar short! Thought for sure I'd found me something this time. Oh well!
azi - Jan 3, 2005 8:49 am (#1253 of 2930)
I have a question. On the rubbish bin section in the top right-hand corner there's a family tree (at least it looks like a family tree). Does the first name look a bit like Rubeus Hagrid to anyone else? The last name definately looks like Hagrid to me, but I'm not sure on the first name, it doesn't look like Rubeus. The name on the line above, next to the green gift thingy, does the name look anything like Sirius Black? It seems to be a separate family tree. Am wondering if the apparent family trees are actually the proper family trees and not made up with random names because we're not supposed to read them? I'm not sure.
p.s. Has anyone tried the number on the envelope above the 'about' envelope in the rubbish bin section in the phone?
Her-melanie - Jan 3, 2005 10:12 am (#1254 of 2930)
I've seen all the posts from everyone saying the rumors sections, etc are blank, but for me, the FAQ poll is blank too. The percentages are there, but the opposite page where she would answer is blank. Has anyone else noticed that?
Elanor - Jan 3, 2005 10:21 am (#1255 of 2930)
Hi Her-melanie! After reading your post, I checked the site and, though the Rumours and News sections are still blank, the FAQ seems to be normal for me and I can read the page opposite the percentages. Curious... I was on the .uk site, what site did you check?
It could mean that the technicians are working on the site maybe. What if we had an answer to the poll very soon, as a New year's wish and comfort for going back to work today? Okay, I know I'm dreaming...
Her-melanie - Jan 3, 2005 10:36 am (#1256 of 2930)
I like your dream, Elanor! I too am using the UK version. What do we know about January in JKR's world? Maybe that would help us guess a date for new info. Or has anyone calculated the 7 week thing?
scoop2172000 - Jan 3, 2005 10:37 am (#1257 of 2930)
Something that's always bugged me about the Quibbler on Jo's website is that it state's "this week's" issue. I thought the Quibbler was monthly. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Elanor - Jan 3, 2005 11:03 am (#1258 of 2930)
I thought it was monthly too since the article about Harry was published in "the March edition of the Quibbler". Maybe that, after the success of that interview, Luna's father thought its magazine deserved to become a weekly? It could be a hint about that, what do you think?
About January, all that comes to my mind is that it might be Voldemort's birthday on that month (he would be at the exact opposite of the year from Harry's birhtday) but first, it would not be a very cheerful date and second, it is only a theory that I like, nothing canon. Mind you, for New Year's Eve I was someone who thought that there might be nargles in the mistletoe, so...
Her-melanie - Jan 3, 2005 12:51 pm (#1259 of 2930)
OK well, now the FAQ poll is working for me. I don't think it was a problem with my browser though, because I went back to the site over and over several times, and it was blank each time. Then I checked again just now and it was there. Hopefully this means pending updates!!!
Kaden007 - Jan 3, 2005 1:08 pm (#1260 of 2930)
azi- i checked the rubbish bin and yes the name really does look like hagrid. Maybe we find out more about his family in HBP.
I hope JK updates soon, I want more info!!!
Sadie - Jan 3, 2005 1:45 pm (#1261 of 2930)
The FAQ poll is working for me, but the fan site trophy is blank, and the rumors page is still blank. I would be so happy if we got some easter eggs. I feel greedy about it..but I guess I am!
John Bumbledore - Jan 3, 2005 3:00 pm (#1262 of 2930)
Dates on Bio and Calendar reflect date set on one's computer.
Back in December, about the 20 th. I had tried going to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (et al) with my computer turned back to Hagrid's birthday. I noted that the date on the desk calendar changed but not the line below. It still read "wizard of the month." I then used my *time turner* to go to the future. Those two dates changed but nothing else.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore.
P. S. Edit: Just tried again and it appears to be fixed now. Rumors and News opens properly now from the co.uk site. And the FSA archive is also working. (Although, 2004 is shown on archive at load, so I would call this half fixed. Second thoughts, the 2005 shield and separate list shouldn't appear until a new FSA winner is determined.)
P. P. S. Nope, sorry. I had my date set at 3 Dec. 2004 and re-loaded the page. That is how I saw the rumors, news, and FSA archive. Well, I can confirm the previous post from NoLifeOnVenus stating that you would be able to see them if you set your computer date to sometime in 2004. See previous post: I just tried to change the date on my computer to December 2004 NoLifeOnVenus - Jan 1, 2005 9:37 pm (#1214 of 1262)
hawkeyetkdchick - Jan 3, 2005 4:45 pm (#1263 of 2930)
I remember a discussion about that "family tree" thing on the old JK Rowling website thread. I posted a couple of times about that same diagram, but I don't remember which post # they are. You could try searching the old thread and see what you find.
potter fan - Jan 3, 2005 4:51 pm (#1264 of 2930)
what were the new clues we got from the last door opening. i missed it.
hawkeyetkdchick - Jan 3, 2005 5:10 pm (#1265 of 2930)
When the door opened last, Jo told us that the book had been sent to the publishers and that we should expect a release date within 24 hours. You can click this link to see a picture of the letter from Jo that was behind the door (the link is to a Mugglenet page). What was behind the door was a christmas tree and 5 presents. Each present had a question/riddle to solve and after solving all five you got to read the letter from Jo (see link above). Earlier posts had the questions/riddles and their answers.
Kerrie-Louise - Jan 4, 2005 1:43 am (#1266 of 2930)
I have also lost the ability to read the rumours page. I know my dates and times on my computer are correct though? Anyone got theirs working yet or am I missing something obvious?
skh - Jan 4, 2005 5:26 am (#1267 of 2930)
Happy New Year to everyone!
I haven't been on the site for ages, since before the 15th Dec I think (maybe once, briefly, since then, but if I was I don't even remember anything I read, so it doesn't count) so there are literally HUNDREDS of posts since I've been on... I've tried to read them, but too many!
Anyway, I completely missed the door opening and any other updates (I was meant to bring my computer home for Xmas, but couldn't in the end) so I'd love some one to post the links of things missed - waht was with the giant candy? Didn't get that at all, was that in RoR?
If some one has already posted the links, could some one give me an indication of the number / date of the post, so I can search?
Many thanks, Sarah
wickedweasley - Jan 4, 2005 5:45 am (#1268 of 2930)
The website appears to be working correctly once again!
Mare - Jan 4, 2005 6:42 am (#1269 of 2930)
I updated the first post, for those of you who missed the opening of the door: The riddles and the text from Jo's christmas card can be found there. I have no screenshots yet...
Ginerva Potter - Jan 4, 2005 7:23 am (#1270 of 2930)
I have a question, but I'm not sure if this is the correct place to put it. On Jo's site, she says that Harry is a half-blood because of Lily's grandparents. So, does this imply that both Lily's parents were magical? And if so, why is Petunia a Muggle? She should be a Squib. But Jo said at Edinburgh that Petunia is not a Squib. So, I'm a little confused. Maybe if you choose not to go to Hogwarts you are considered a Muggle? Any thoughts?
Also, I was thinking maybe one of Lily's parents is magical and the other is a muggle. But I think Jo would have said something different on her site. Or did Jo just make a mistake and her site is supposed to read Harry's grandparents? All these questions.....
EDIT:On another topic, I still get the Giant Blue Candy. If you wait on the Extra Stuff page until the phone rings and exit while it's ringing (it takes a long time, I keep my screen on the Extra Stuff page while I'm reading the Forum =) ), you will get the Candy. It may be a glitch, but I think it's funny! It probably still comes up because the advent calendar is still there.
Ainsley Black - Jan 4, 2005 9:30 am (#1271 of 2930)
The Blue Candy thing was a hacker I think. I went to the link that someone found when they Googled for the Giant Blue Candy and found it had a website of its very own. Reading the site content it sounds very much like hackers to me playing about (I don't like hackers when they are aiming to spoil things).
I have a feeling that all the little missing bits of Jo's site have been in an atempt to pruge the system of these candy-like glitches.
skh - Jan 4, 2005 9:59 am (#1272 of 2930)
scoop2172000 - Jan 4, 2005 10:59 am (#1273 of 2930)
As I understand it, both of Lily's parents (i.e. Harry's maternal grandparents) were muggles. Just like Hermione is born a witch from two muggle parents, so was Lily a witch born of muggles.
Jo has told us that Aunt Petunia is a muggle. For Petunia to be a squib, one or both of her parents would have had to have been magical.
Harry, born of a witch and wizard, ought to be considered a pureblood, but purists consider him a half-blood because of Lily's muggle parents.
Ainsley Black - Jan 4, 2005 11:02 am (#1274 of 2930)
Has Jo ACTUALLY said that Petunia is a muggle? I know she's said she's not a squib but there is that whole thing going around about Petunia about is she or isn't she magic?
Gina R Snape - Jan 4, 2005 11:36 am (#1275 of 2930)
JKR has said that Petunia is a muggle and that Harry is a half-blood because of his grandparents. i.e. Harry's maternal grandparents were muggles and his paternal grandparents were a witch and a wizard.
I think it's very interesting that JKR and/or her people have made no comment about the blue candy. That sort of confirms for me that it was a hacker.
KWeldon - Jan 4, 2005 12:07 pm (#1276 of 2930)
If it is the work of a hacker, though, and you are running a site for one of the wealthiest and most influential authors in the world, why would these problems not have gotten fixed faster? I don't understand.
Ainsley Black - Jan 4, 2005 12:13 pm (#1277 of 2930)
Well it was done during the christmas period so maybe they were on their christmas break plus these things must take some time cause not only have you got to get rid of it but then you've got to make sure it dosen't happen again. I know I wouldn't like that job, just think you spend all these hours designing and protecting something and someone comes along and rips a ruddy great hole in it!
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 4, 2005 12:53 pm (#1278 of 2930)
KWeldon - If hackers can get into Microsoft and disrupt things, I doubt if Jo's web site would prove to much of an problem for a serious hacker. I do wish they could have better ways to occupy their time though.
KWeldon - Jan 4, 2005 1:28 pm (#1279 of 2930)
I don't doubt that they could hack in easily, I was just thinking that it would get cleaned up faster, but obviously I don't know much about the subject. That's why I said that I didn't understand, and now I know. You learn something new every day!
Prefect Marcus - Jan 4, 2005 1:52 pm (#1280 of 2930)
Seriously, I doubt it was a hacker. For one, the picture was a much higher resolution than the candy on the Extra screen. Two, it was universally done to all the sites. Three, if it had been a hacker, I am sure we would have heard about it by now. If JKRowling.COM didn't tell us about it, the hacker would have. They love to brag.
John Bumbledore - Jan 4, 2005 2:23 pm (#1281 of 2930)
Prefect Marcus, you make a good point. A hacker would brag, but is in an unfortunately common practice for businesses not to acknowledge a hack unless it is very visible, very disrupting to their customer, or damaging to the business or customer data.
Additionally, if the big candy is resulting from an error in the website, then Lightmaker would not disclose such to the public and maybe not to their client (Jo). It could be to damaging to their reputation, even if it was not there fault (such as an error in the other-party software-tool they use to create the site or the other-party software we all must use to view the website.
The resolution of the image does not depend on the cause, but on the flash player software and one's own computer display.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
vball man - Jan 4, 2005 2:26 pm (#1282 of 2930)
If it was a hacker, don't you think that they would have a lot more fum with us than showing a giant blue candy???
No way was that a hacker. JKR was just saying, "No, its just another candy. Now go enjoy Chirstmas with your families instead of looking at my site."
Gina R Snape - Jan 4, 2005 2:35 pm (#1283 of 2930)
Heh, heh. This may turn into a bigger mystery and controversy than the appearance of Stubby Boardman!
hawkeyetkdchick - Jan 4, 2005 4:23 pm (#1284 of 2930)
vball man- I agree that Jo probably wanted us to go be with our families instead of looking at her page. Maybe she was just trying to say "stop looking for updates, nothing's going to change right now."
Gina - LOL; perhaps we'll see an article in the Quibbler...
Julie Aronson - Jan 4, 2005 4:53 pm (#1285 of 2930)
As of 6:45pm Eastern time, the site is completely back to normal.
Qwaz - Jan 4, 2005 6:58 pm (#1286 of 2930)
Huh, I've read a bit and can only say that i missed the giant blue candy and that in my house the decorations have always come down 12 days after christmas...6th January. So my money's saying the site will revert to it's less festive appearance either on the 6th or just after.
Happy New Year everyone, especially Mrs.Rowling and family, may it be better than the last
Ginerva Potter - Jan 4, 2005 7:44 pm (#1287 of 2930)
Thanks everyone for the posts!
My confusion about Muggles/Squibs and Halfbloods comes from her site saying Lily's grandparents not Harry's. She must have meant Harry's grandparents.
Ainsley - Jo said Petunia is a Muggle at Edinburgh.
Nicole Bloom - Jan 4, 2005 10:10 pm (#1288 of 2930)
It is 12:10am Pacific time and the Website is fine. I've actually just noticed something in the Rumors ads. If this has been there a while, then someone tell me.
Apparently, the singing sorceress Celestina, or something to the equalivalent, Warbeck with be coming to concert the 11th, 12th and 13th of this month. Tickets are 5 Galleons, it says to book your portkey early and there will be anti-muggle protection everywhere. The event happens on a moor and Owls requesting tickets are to be sent to Celestina herself.
Could Harry's happy reason to leave Privet Drive early be this concert? I should probably post this on that thread too.
Gina R Snape - Jan 4, 2005 11:00 pm (#1289 of 2930)
That definitely sounds like a new advert to me.
riotgrrrl - Jan 4, 2005 11:54 pm (#1290 of 2930)
Nicole- I posted a similar question a few posts back (1246 and 1247) and someone commented that it has been there for a while. If you completely exit the site and come back in, it seems that there are a few different sets of ads so maybe I never noticed that specific one.
Leprechaun Jack! - Jan 5, 2005 5:35 am (#1291 of 2930)
Yeah, thats an old ad. I remember it from before the holidays.
Tomoé - Jan 5, 2005 6:11 am (#1292 of 2930)
It's an old ad, Gina, I remember reading it a few days after the renewal, when I logged in and out to see all the ads.
Now about Lily's parents and grandparents :
A Squib is almost the opposite of a Muggle-born wizard: he or she is a non-magical person born to at least one magical parent.
Is Aunt Petunia a Squib?
No, she is not, but—[Laughter]. No, she is not a Squib. She is a Muggle, but—[Laughter].
Why are some people in the wizarding world (e.g., Harry) called 'half-blood' even though both their parents were magical? The expressions 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' have been coined by people to whom these distinctions matter, and express their originators' prejudices. As far as somebody like Lucius Malfoy is concerned, for instance, a Muggle-born is as 'bad' as a Muggle. Therefore Harry would be considered only 'half' wizard, because of his mother's grandparents.
If you think this is far-fetched, look at some of the real charts the Nazis used to show what constituted 'Aryan' or 'Jewish' blood. I saw one in the Holocaust Museum in Washington when I had already devised the 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' definitions, and was chilled to see that the Nazis used precisely the same warped logic as the Death Eaters. A single Jewish grandparent 'polluted' the blood, according to their propaganda.
Trying to put two and two together through the mist of my cold, Pet is not a squib, but a muggle, which mean none of her parents was magical. Then why mention Lily's grandparents at all, it's Harry's grandparents that matter? Maybe she wanted to make clear Lily was a muggle-born.
KWeldon - Jan 5, 2005 6:17 am (#1293 of 2930)
I'd be more likely to bet that JKR just misspoke. It makes the most sense.
Qwaz - Jan 5, 2005 6:55 am (#1294 of 2930)
All I ever hear in my head when reading Petunia is: "Me-thinks the lady doth protest too much."
What I also like is that by their definition a "Squib" and a "Muggle-born Wizard/Witch" can't be siblings.
Chemyst - Jan 5, 2005 7:51 am (#1295 of 2930)
...look at some of the real charts the Nazis used to show what constituted 'Aryan' or 'Jewish' blood.
After that interview came out, I googled to find some of those charts she was talking about– I found some charts, but never found the explanation. Perhaps someone else will have more success. The way I interpret the interview, one of Lily's parents could have been a squib, right? If a Squib had a magical offspring, they might feel they were not quite so worthless and such an oddball after all, because at least they'd been able to "produce magic" in their child. That would explain why the parents were so delighted when Lily's letter came.
Aurora Gubbins - Jan 5, 2005 12:26 pm (#1296 of 2930)
Chemyst; you could be onto something there. In the Muggle world you will find people saying "These things often skip a generation".To illustrate; a few short years ago, twins were born to a black couple, one of the twins was black and the other was white because of a great, great grandparent of the mother. Had the children not been twins the parentage would have been called into question and a happy family could have been torn apart. Thanks to Muggle science it could be proved that the twins were twins and both were fathered by the same man. My feeling is that the 'Grandparent' comment on the site is not a typo, but is part of a web of information on the Lily/Petunia question. I still think that Petunia 'chose' to live a Muggle life and so has been accepted as a Muggle. Look again at different parts of the site - in particular the 'Squibs' section in FAQ. There are too many bits and bobs hinting about Petunia and Lily to be so cut and dried.
John Bumbledore - Jan 5, 2005 2:59 pm (#1297 of 2930)
So, nothing saying that one or both of Lily's parents were *muggle-born* witch or wizard.
As far as somebody like Lucius Malfoy is concerned, for instance, a Muggle-born is as 'bad' as a Muggle.
Therefore Harry would be considered only 'half' wizard, because of his mother's grandparents.
By these quotes from Jo, we can deduce that all four of Lily's grandparents were muggles. However, that does not prevent either of her parents from being a muggle-born wizard or witch.
Does that make sense? It would explain the joy of Lily's parents at receiving the Hogwarts letter. And would also explain Pet's attitude (of jealousy) if she felt treated second best for lack of magic.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore.
Ann - Jan 5, 2005 4:55 pm (#1298 of 2930)
All right, I was thinking, nothing to say about this--it's all been discussed forever and ever on the Petunia thread. Then I hit Aurora's post: "In the Muggle world you will find people saying 'These things often skip a generation.'"
This makes me wonder again. In Chapter 15, OotP, when Umbridge is inspecting Trelawney, we get the following exchange:
But I think--correct me if I am mistaken--that you are the first in your family since Cassandra to be possessed of second sight?
These things often skip--er--three generations, said Professor Trelawney.
Significant? Who knows? (Too long since breakfast? Probably.)
KWeldon - Jan 5, 2005 6:50 pm (#1299 of 2930)
However, that does not prevent either of her parents from being a muggle-born wizard or witch.
We know from JKR's parents that Petunia is not a squib. Is a non-magical child from one parent being magical and other being non-magical considered a squib? If so, then that doesn't explain it.
emma bailey - Jan 5, 2005 7:31 pm (#1300 of 2930)
Hey I bet, that someone has already said that they are releasing GOF movie around the 16th or 17 Of Nov. If not I just read that today.
From Venus - Jan 5, 2005 8:14 pm (#1301 of 2930)
Where did you hear that from? I haven't heard anything. Has anyone else heard this news?
KWeldon - Jan 5, 2005 8:24 pm (#1302 of 2930)
I knew it was somewhere between Nov. 15 and Nov. 28, or so, but I couldn't remember the exact date. There's an article on cnn.com today confirming the pre-Thanksgiving release date. They intend to make more money releasing it then, when family fare often comes out, rather than having to compete with other summer blockbusters.
I'm not so sure POA made less from being released then as having a purported scary werewolf scene in it. My 8 yr old would have nothing to do with it because of that.
On topic, do you think now that she has given us a juicy bit of news, that there will be a long dry spell before we hear anything else from her? I would think she would want to pace herself before working us into a frenzy.
From Venus - Jan 5, 2005 8:37 pm (#1303 of 2930)
It's a loooooooong time until July 16. I hope she gives us a few goodies between now and then or I just may have to do something desparate.
Ann - Jan 5, 2005 8:43 pm (#1304 of 2930)
KWeldon: "I would think she would want to pace herself before working us into a frenzy."
Oh, surely not--at least, I hope not! Thinking about how easy it is to work us into a frenzy (think Mark Evans, Big Blue Candy), and how much she seems to enjoy our ...erm... theories (surely she's read the condensed giant squid thread!), I should think that she'll be dangling all sorts of tantalyzing little bits of HBP in front of us between now and July 16th. (Please, Jo!)
From Venus - Jan 5, 2005 8:56 pm (#1305 of 2930)
I just checked cnn.com (as suggested by KWeldon) and it says that the GoF movie is indeed set to come out Nov. 18, 2005. Of course, it also says that release dates are subject to change.
What a fun year 2005 will be for us Potterites...a new book in July and a new movie in November! Ahhh, life is good.
Qwaz - Jan 5, 2005 9:34 pm (#1306 of 2930)
Would the non-magic child of magic and a muggle parent be considered a squib or a muggle?
Since the "Magic gene" (for want of a better word) is supposedly dominent I'd strike at Squib myself.
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 5, 2005 9:59 pm (#1307 of 2930)
I think Jo is probably a little busy now. After all a month ago she was having trouble sitting at her computer. I hope she hasn't set down at the keyboard since she gave us the release date.
riotgrrrl - Jan 6, 2005 12:04 am (#1308 of 2930)
I actually hope that she has set down the keyboard for a while to take a long deserved rest. She noted that the book was racing the new baby into the world and even though I'm sure she still has some updates in store for us, she made this holiday season brighter for all of us and I personally am letting her off the hook for some time.
skh - Jan 6, 2005 4:15 am (#1309 of 2930)
The whole "magical gene" thing reminds me of Aunt Marge in PoA...
' "It's one of the basic rules of breeding," she [Marge] said. "You see it all the time with dogs. If there's something wrong with the bitch, there'll be something wrong with the pup-"
Maybe a handy device to get Harry out of Privet Drive and onto the Knight Bus, or a sly clue to get us to think about genetics?! hehe
wolfgrl - Jan 6, 2005 5:54 am (#1310 of 2930)
The decorations are down on the website. Just thought I would mention it.
Kerrie-Louise - Jan 6, 2005 6:04 am (#1311 of 2930)
It's because it's the end of 12th night! It's now officially New Year!
Steve Newton - Jan 6, 2005 6:47 am (#1312 of 2930)
Are we participating in a new literature? What I mean is we are interacting with the author during the creation of the work, and maybe, influencing the creation. Is that what we are doing? If so, is it new? I guess that Dickens wrote serials and had some interaction as he was writing but the scale, at least, must be new.
Snuffles - Jan 6, 2005 6:50 am (#1313 of 2930)
ooh i hope we are influencing the creation. Hmm let me think "let Harry live, let Harry live, let Harry live" Pleease!
skh - Jan 6, 2005 7:19 am (#1314 of 2930)
Steve, haven't there been instances of authors writing in a character name or changing a chapter slightly due to competion participation? NOt quite the same, but similar... although as you say, the scale here is probably different.
Off the top of my head, a similar example to this website would be the Dan Brown / DaVinci Code one, where there was a puzzle to solve to get a message from the author. However, that's not really part of a series in the same way as HP, so that doesn't really count.
KWeldon - Jan 6, 2005 7:23 am (#1315 of 2930)
I can't imagine that we are influencing the creation that greatly. JKR has said several times that the story was set long ago. What may be influenced is her attention to details. For example, it might have blown her away that we picked up on Mark Evans and the Marcus Flint error, so she may be more careful about her choice of names for insignificant characters and her math. That kind of thing.
vball man - Jan 6, 2005 8:09 am (#1316 of 2930)
I don't think that we are influencing the creation very much. If so, it will be trivial things. She had the story planned from early on.
I do think that what we are doing is new. Certainly people discussed serial works like Dickens, Hugo, and Tolkien. But I don't think that it was done at a level this public. I mean that our discussions are logged for all the world to see - if anyone was interested, that is.
Steve Newton - Jan 6, 2005 8:33 am (#1317 of 2930)
vball, I thought that Tolkien was sort of an isolated academic. I could be wrong.
I'm sure that we are not having a major influence but maybe some details. From Flint's extra year to Dennis Creevey being in Hogsmeade and, probably, many more instances I think that we may make her job harder by making her aware of loopholes and problems. The Mark Evans affair must certainly have made JKR more careful about names.
Perhaps I am raising a spurious issue.
popkin - Jan 6, 2005 9:01 am (#1318 of 2930)
Edited by Jan 6, 2005 8:02 am
I'm sure that the stuff JKR reads on line has to influence her writing - even if its just to leave out something she had intended to use, because she read it on line and doesn't want anyone to think she stole it. I think every part of a writer's experience has some influence on their story telling. And we know the Lexicon has had some influence, because JKR has said that she's used it to check her facts.
skh - Jan 6, 2005 9:06 am (#1319 of 2930)
And, by reading the open letter and posting some answers, it must've started a few trains of thought regarding back-story, background etc., I guess
Thora - Jan 6, 2005 9:10 am (#1320 of 2930)
See now that's the way it's supposed to work, snow is only for Christmas. I wonder if it will snow (in the town out the window) again this winter? So, are we thinking 7 week update cycle again, isn't that Feb 8th? Valentines is the 14th in America, but I think it's different in the UK, right?
Snuffles - Jan 6, 2005 9:13 am (#1321 of 2930)
No Valentines day is on 14th Feb in UK.
Qwaz - Jan 6, 2005 9:42 am (#1322 of 2930)
So the decorations down on the 6th is the big "1st prediction Qwaz got right" then. LoL.
Feb 14th in UK too. I'd guess something like:
A minor update between now and then and the ROR opening on the 14th with a little snipet about Neville's love life or something
From Venus - Jan 6, 2005 9:44 am (#1323 of 2930)
Everything looks so plain now with the decorations gone. I think she could have left the snow in the window, though. Christmas is over, but not winter.
I agree with those who say we probably do not influence the story, because she did say that it has been set for a long time. But, definitely, what we are doing here is new to the world of literature. Due to computers and the internet, everything is a little bit different than if ever used to be. The world is smaller, for one thing. More information is shared between more people. Communication is faster. It is bringing everyone closer together. JKR would be a phenomenon in any age, but in this age of computers, it makes her situation unique.
I believe I have heard once, that Sir Arthur Canon Doyle, who wrote the Sherlock Holmes stories, was talked into writing more of them after he had ended Holmes' career by sending him over a waterfall. The public outcry was fantastic, and he ended up having to resurrect the popular detective. Maybe our influence can work that way on JKR. Do you think if we make enough noise, she will resurrect Sirius?
Snuffles - Jan 6, 2005 9:46 am (#1324 of 2930)
Im right behind you in the queue on that one From Venus, altogether now...........
Ainsley Black - Jan 6, 2005 9:50 am (#1325 of 2930)
Yep I'm there with you Snuffles and Venus!
Snuffles i'll take you're "let Harry live, let Harry live, let Harry live" Pleease! and add "BRING SIRIUS BACK! BRING SIRIUS BACK! BRING SIRIUS BACK!" CAn you tell that I like Sirius?
vball man - Jan 6, 2005 9:52 am (#1326 of 2930)
Sir Arthur Canon Doyle, who wrote the Sherlock Holmes stories, was talked into writing more of them after he had ended Holmes' career by sending him over a waterfall. The public outcry was fantastic, and he ended up having to resurrect the popular detective. Maybe our influence can work that way on JKR. Do you think if we make enough noise, she will resurrect Sirius?
Interesting. Of course, Doyle was a medical doctor (Go, Doctors!) who grew into an author.
Based on other things that JKR has said, I doubt that she would succome to our influence. Also, Holmes was the title character. It would be more like if JKR kills Harry in book 7, and then brings him back in a few years.
But there is another similarity between S. Holmes and S. Black. In neither case were we shown the body when they died...
Qwaz - Jan 6, 2005 9:54 am (#1327 of 2930)
I reckon we should let Mrs.Rowling tell it her way. We've all loved it so far, right? I don't think I'd trust anyone else (inc. myself) to give input to the story in such a direct way.
Mare - Jan 6, 2005 10:01 am (#1328 of 2930)
Hmmm, Sherlock Holmes was killed because the author thought it had been enough, Harry's living or dying will probably be a majot plot point that has been brewing in Jo's head for years.
I don't think they can be compared or influenced. (But just in case: let Harry live! Let Harry live! Let Harry live!)
And as for us influencing the series, we never know exactly what Jo reads and what not. And I doubt she will change anything because we guessed it. Look at this forum, is there any theory out there that has not been discussed already?
I do think we influence her when it comes to tiny details, she knows we want to know everything, from ages to pronounciation to the way things works... And I think she (and her editors) have learned that they have a very picky (but forgiving and loving...) audience.
Steve Newton - Jan 6, 2005 10:14 am (#1329 of 2930)
From Venus, good catch on Holmes.
We are also helping in the creation when we accept as canon items which appear on her website. These are things that do not appear in the body of the work and, as far as I can tell, will not. Does JKR read this forum? No idea. But she does read some and by putting new stuff on her page in response to reader input the input is having a direct impact on what the author is producing. I think. The webpage is sort of part of the literature and sort of not.
Madame Librarian - Jan 6, 2005 10:45 am (#1330 of 2930)
I'm with the group that thinks the major plot directions and outcomes are already set. Jo has said a few times, I think, that the story came to her all of a piece, she just needed to set the surrounding details and side-plots.
But I think that she reads our chatter and takes what we say in good humor and with good sense. She may incorporate a minor detail idea or accommodate someone by using a name (remember that little girl with a terminal illness whose name was used for one of the characters in memorium--can't remember the name?). I suspect Jo's vision of how this series works, it's tone, the messages, the whole Potterverse framework, are so solid, so clear to her that she can read our silly ideas (well...some of them may actually be right due to our thinking or pure dumb luck) and even the parodies and send-ups and not let them infiltrate the books in any substantial way.
The very public nature and scope of ponderings and musings is part and parcel with the information age, and probably has never been a factor before in any author's "fan club" for lack of a better term. However, there are Tolkien newsletters, Autsten clubs and the like that have been in existence for a long time.
Saud - Jan 6, 2005 10:46 am (#1331 of 2930)
After writing 5 books in a series of 7, you become a billionaire. 2 more books and 4 more movies to go for sure. There is nothing more to ask for. Except one thing, the fulfillment of the happiness of us fans who always want more ofcourse.
Weeny Owl - Jan 6, 2005 10:49 am (#1332 of 2930)
I've checked her .com site and her .org site, but all of the Christmas decorations are still up on my computer, and it's still snowing as well.
Ainsley Black - Jan 6, 2005 10:52 am (#1333 of 2930)
The UK site is bak to pre-christmas decor, have you checked that?
The giant squid - Jan 6, 2005 1:47 pm (#1334 of 2930)
Of course, it also says that release dates are subject to change.--From Venus
Yes and no. Some dates get shifted around depending on the market at the time (a lot of stuff got moved last summer when Passion of the Christ started making so much money), but big movies tend to stay where they are on the schedule & let others move around them. Hollywood may not think of HP as "blockbuster" material, but that release date's been on the books for over a year. I think at worst it'll shift from the 18th (a Friday) to the 16th (Wednesday).
scoop2172000 - Jan 6, 2005 2:14 pm (#1335 of 2930)
I have to disagree with your assessment that "Hollywood may not think of HP as "blockbuster" material." The Potter movie franchise is one of the most successful Hollywood has ever seen.
KWeldon - Jan 6, 2005 2:30 pm (#1336 of 2930)
Also, both CNN and FOX have had articles on the web in the last couple of days identifying it as one of the blockbusters for next year. Also Star Wars EP III, of course.
Gina R Snape - Jan 6, 2005 3:14 pm (#1337 of 2930)
Maybe our influence can work that way on JKR. Do you think if we make enough noise, she will resurrect Sirius?
I suppose anything is possible. But to be honest, some of us don't want him to be resurrected!
Auror Tonks - Jan 6, 2005 4:52 pm (#1338 of 2930)
may be late but i noticed on the extra stuff page at the bottom left hand side of the board theres a note that says pick new fan site page. has that always been there?
Thora - Jan 6, 2005 5:38 pm (#1339 of 2930)
Auror Tonks, not always, but a while, it's not new anyway.
Grindylow - Jan 6, 2005 5:46 pm (#1340 of 2930)
Thora..how do you get such great screen shots of JKR's site?
Saralinda Again - Jan 6, 2005 5:58 pm (#1341 of 2930)
What a fun year 2005 will be for us Potterites...a new book in July and a new movie in November! Ahhh, life is good.
And couple that with the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy finally making it to a screen near us in May [note to Alan Rickman fans: he'll be the voice of Marvin the Paranoid Android -- and Warrick "Professor Flitwick" Davis is in the robot suit] and A Confederacy of Dunces at long last in production, and 2005 looks to be a year beyond my wildest literary/cinematic dreams!
A deliriously contented Saralinda
Tomoé - Jan 6, 2005 7:05 pm (#1342 of 2930)
If I remember well, Mr Doyle only made Sherlock come back after his mother asked him so. He didn't listen to his public until his mother step in.
Anyway, I don't think Jo could possibly save Harry if he's due to die, not without domaging the quality of the series. A lot of stuff that happen in the six first books would seems meaningless if she change her mind (the same goes if she chose to kill Harry while he was suppose to live, of course). I read a comics series, Angel Santuary by Kaori Yuki, a very dark series, with many deaths, many betrayals, many deceiving, and when there was only the last chapter to write, Mrs Author change her mind and write a happy end. The end seems so foreign to the rest of the series, plus it didn't solve the problems the twins had at home, it only solve problems foreign people had in their foreign world. That wasn't a good ending at all, even if it was an happy one.
I'll close this post paraphrasing Dumbledore, people aren't good at chosing what's best for themselves (well, I'm still at my parents' and miles away from books, but that's somewhere in chapter 17 of P/SS). So maybe the part we think would be good in the story (i.e. Sirius coming back) is in no way a good choice.
The giant squid - Jan 7, 2005 3:53 am (#1343 of 2930)
scoop/KWeldon: I stand (well, sit) corrected. It just seems to me that the HP movies have been given lesser status due to them being "kid's movies". Apparently PoA has shaken that a bit, and rightly so. By "blockbuster" I was referring to the typical Hollywood "explosions, sex and more explosions" kind of movie.
From Venus - Jan 7, 2005 10:43 am (#1344 of 2930)
Actually, the comment I made about ressurecting Sirius was just wishful thinking. I know she can't do that. (Rats!) However, I would like to see her continue writing about Harry and his adventures in the magical world.
Well, Tomoé, if it was actually Sir Doyle's mother that talked him into writing more Sherlock Holmes stories, then that won't help us much, because Jo's dear mom has passed over to a better place; Lord rest her soul.... I know, maybe we can work on one of her kids!
Thora - Jan 7, 2005 11:40 am (#1345 of 2930)
For screen shots of her site I hit alt and print screen at the same time, then I open paint and control v it in. Then I grab what I want and resize. Sometimes I use photo progams, but I know my way around paint so I prefer it. Then I have to change the pic type to one accepted on WC. I used to have tons of pics of everything on the site, but my husband selected to wrong hard-drive to reformat when useing my computer one day and *poof* bye-bye pics (and the kids pics too!)
Hey that's great about Valentines, little treat for the sweet fans please!
And Happy Labor Jo! Best wishes on a fast and easy birthing!
Grindylow - Jan 7, 2005 1:19 pm (#1346 of 2930)
Thanks for the info Thora.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 7, 2005 4:14 pm (#1347 of 2930)
Steve, The question of how Jo's interaction with fans during the writing process is very interesting from a theoretical standpoint, as is the plethora of HP fanfiction generated and displayed on web sites. Did you know that there are academic conferences on Harry Potter? I would like to write a paper on the use of technology to make reader response instantly accessible to writers like JKR, but I'm so busy writing my dissertation that I haven't gotten to it.
Tomoé - Jan 7, 2005 4:53 pm (#1348 of 2930)
I don't think Jo's kids could have the same influence than Doyles's mom, Jo's used to refuse them stuff, all moms are, so even if the whole family gangs against her I'm afraid it won't work. But, if her father step him ... (don't underestimate the power of an old man with tears in the eyes ^_~).
Steve Newton - Jan 7, 2005 5:52 pm (#1349 of 2930)
Accio HBP if you see any of the proceedings online or in print please let me know. I'd love to read what they are saying.
Grant the Great - Jan 7, 2005 7:45 pm (#1350 of 2930)
I agree with Gina. Let Sirius rest in peace. I actually liked him much more before Book V. I figure, let the woman work! She'll do a better job that we would, anyway. I find that it is often the books that don't work out the way you want that touch you the most (ie. A Separate Peace by John Knowles--love that book).
Thora - Jan 7, 2005 8:30 pm (#1351 of 2930)
Okay someone with screen shots tell me, were the red and white ribbons on the big trophy before, or am I just a bit short on sleep here? (Still feeding a baby twice a night, yawn).
Also someone brought up the paper by the rubbish bin, not a family tree, but possibly a plot tree? We've got Harry and Hermione - Ron, down line to Sirius Black, down another level to Rubeus Hagrid and someone else I can't read (help!) any ideas of what plot section this could be of?
A very tired Thora
Gina R Snape - Jan 7, 2005 9:16 pm (#1352 of 2930)
Oh, Grant. I looooove that book! I first read it in 7th grade and it's always stayed with me.
Waaaaah. I want a new update. I can't believe we don't even have a new birthday posted!
KWeldon - Jan 7, 2005 9:58 pm (#1353 of 2930)
Do we know Lupin's birthday yet?
Tomoé - Jan 8, 2005 2:20 am (#1354 of 2930)
Do you still have some of those nazi chart Chemyst?
haymoni - Jan 8, 2005 8:19 am (#1355 of 2930)
The only example of readers influencing Jo's writing that I can think of is the bit in GOF when she has Hermione teaching Krum how to say her name.
I'm pretty sure that there is a quote somewhere that says Jo thought she would clear up the pronunciation of "Hermione" by writing this passage.
Steve Newton - Jan 8, 2005 9:02 am (#1356 of 2930)
Because of reader response I'm pretty sure that there will be no more incidental characters named Evans.
Prefect Marcus - Jan 8, 2005 10:35 am (#1357 of 2930)
Steve Newton - Because of reader response I'm pretty sure that there will be no more incidental characters named Evans.
Actually, I hope there are -- or at least some named Brown, Patil, Riddle, and the like. I saw nothing wrong in naming him Mark Evans.
If she now follows the rule that last names are only duplicated for a reason, she might as well wave a giant red flag if she gives an already used last name to someone. Who wants that?
Ann - Jan 8, 2005 1:49 pm (#1358 of 2930)
Okay: Trees on the trash page.
This is my post (#1701) on the old Official Site thread. I'll repost it here. As I remember there was no discussion. Edits are in roman, original post is in italics.
I did a screen shot and blew it up. The "family tree" is probably not that, but one of her planning diagrams, which are sprinkled around the site. But it's interesting, since it may mention a new character. Or maybe not.
The top row has Harry and Hermione on one side, Ron on the other, and at the base of the line below them is Sirius Black. This wasn't very clear: There's actually a T shape; H&H on the left, R on the right, Sirius under the stem. In the branches below him (not connected to Sirius Black) are, from the left, Rubeus Hagrid (the R is a bit squashed, but I think that's what it is) and, on a slightly longer line, something that looks like Baley Potier, but is probably "(Something) Potter." I thought perhaps Lily, but there seems to be something between the l and the y, and although the initial letter is pretty blurry, what follows it looks round and has no dot. I've just figured this one out--I think it's actually Peter Pettigrew. Though I suppose it could still be Peter Potter. After that is a single word, fairly long, crossed out. There are two descending letters, divided by another letter probably. Still no idea about this one. After that, at the edge and directly under Sirus Black (but still not connected), are two words, the first of which clearly starts with L, perhaps Li, and the second of which looks like a P--so this may be Lily Potter. So it looks like Rubeus Hagrid, Peter Pettigrew, crossed out, Lily Potter, all connected horizontally.
There are other interesting bits. Two notes seem drafts for the Welcome to the new site note, but two others (left of the rubbish basket and (smaller) in the lower right corner have:
a large su
is dead" s
Anyone recognize where this comes from? I don't.
(I'm not at all sure of the fragmentary words at the torn edge of the paper.)
The phone number (2 groups of six digits) that's revealed when Peeves breaks the second pen is on the back of a letter with two round postmarks on it: It appears to say "Neil," then 058666 756622. All the 6s could also be zeros or fours.
There is also a paper (left and above the basket) that is headed "The Triwizard Tournament," the line under that seems to read "XXX similar to the fl...," and under that (very doubtful, obscured by tape) "Crouch." After that I can't make out much at all.
azi - Jan 8, 2005 2:04 pm (#1359 of 2930)
Wow! That must've taken hours to read! But it's very useful.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 8, 2005 2:05 pm (#1360 of 2930)
Steve (and all), The most recent that I know about is issue 54 of Topic: The Washington and Jefferson College Review Journal. This issue is entirely devoted to Harry Potter. Titles include:
Children's Literature or Adult Classic? The Harry Potter Series and the British Novel Tradition (Paige Byam)
Aesthetic Organization: The Structural Beauty of J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter Series (Kathleen McEvoy)
Fantasy and the Interpretation of Fantasy in Harry Potter (Steven Barfield)
Harry Potter's Heritage: Tolkien as Rowling's Patronus against the Critics (Miranda Maney Yaggi)
Tolkien and Rowling: Reflections on Reception (DawnEllen Jacobs)
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Neville Longbottom - Jan 8, 2005 5:18 pm (#1361 of 2930)
JKR has updated the site again. It's Snape's birthday.
Penny Lane. - Jan 8, 2005 6:05 pm (#1362 of 2930)
Gina! It's like you KNEW it would be soon. How did you know that? Wow *stands in awe*
Seriously, so what did you get him for his birthday, Ms. Snape?
Steve Newton - Jan 8, 2005 6:12 pm (#1363 of 2930)
Accio HBP, thanks. I think that I will buy it.
Gina R Snape - Jan 8, 2005 6:36 pm (#1364 of 2930)
dizzy lizzy - Jan 8, 2005 9:59 pm (#1365 of 2930)
At last!! every other time I've been alerted to a birthday, I've missed seeing it on the Calender. Today I struck it lucky!!
BTW, Gina, your avatars are just plain outright fantastic!!
popkin - Jan 8, 2005 10:10 pm (#1366 of 2930)
Edited by Jan 8, 2005 9:10 pm
I couldn't help noticing there are seven candles on Severus' cake. What does that mean? Is he stuck at an emotional age of seven? Or perhaps there is something significant about his seventh birthday?
Gina, I have to click on a person's name to see their avatar. They don't show up automatically (it takes too long to load them). Yours are the only ones I always check, because, like Dizzy Lizzy, I love them too. My favorite so far has been Severus in the flowering hedges.
Thora - Jan 8, 2005 10:23 pm (#1367 of 2930)
Yay!!!!! Happy Birthday!!!!!
Thanks for the post on the rubbish bin page!
Gina R Snape - Jan 8, 2005 11:00 pm (#1368 of 2930)
Aaaa[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Thanks guys! I do love changing my avatar.
Qwaz - Jan 9, 2005 12:15 am (#1369 of 2930)
Don't all the cakes have 7 candles? I'm pretty sure all the ones I have seen have. I think the graphic just accomadated 7 candles nicely.
Her-melanie - Jan 9, 2005 5:06 am (#1370 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Severus! What's that, Capricorn?
lkb - Jan 9, 2005 8:56 am (#1371 of 2930)
I was wondering have we recived any confermation that there are only 7 things to find on the site? I sure wish JKR would let us in on that so that we could know.
I have this picture of her sitting reading all of these saying "wow, they have only found 7 of them, he he he..."
Tomoé - Jan 9, 2005 10:03 am (#1372 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Professor Snape!
I hope will get the Marauders' birthday as well, if not this year, maybe next one. There always have been 7 candles on the birthday cakes, so nothing special with Severus's.
Gina R Snape - Jan 9, 2005 10:52 am (#1373 of 2930)
Yes, I am certain now we will find out the Marauder's birthdays. I have Sirius pegged for a Leo or Aries. Not sure about James. But I think Remus Lupin is a Pisces. Wormtail? No idea. And even if I did, it would come off as a slight to whichever sign I chose!
And btw, Snape as capricorn is perfectly compatible with taurus... A friend of mine is working on a full chart for him, based on a 12noon birthtime (standard when you don't know the time of birth). I'll post the link when it's up, if anyone is interested.
Adami - Jan 9, 2005 11:42 am (#1374 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Professor Snape!!
Neville Longbottom - Jan 9, 2005 11:44 am (#1375 of 2930)
Yes, I am certain now we will find out the Marauder's birthdays.
Do you really think so? I agree with you about Lupin's, but Sirius and James are dead, and it would be a bit morbid to wish them a Happy Birthday, IMO.
septentrion - Jan 9, 2005 12:02 pm (#1376 of 2930)
jO's website's been wishing bithdays since last may, so we just miss people born between now and May. In astrology, there're still the end of capricorn, pisces, aries and the beginning of taurus.
Gina, I've noticed too that capricorn and taurus are perfectly compatible
Gina R Snape - Jan 9, 2005 12:22 pm (#1377 of 2930)
Actually, I thought the first birthday to be posted was Neville, in Leo.
Yes, septentrion, I noticed you'd noticed.
Nathan Zimmermann - Jan 9, 2005 1:26 pm (#1378 of 2930)
If J.K. Rowling assigned the woods used in James and Lily Potter's wand using the ancient Celtic idea that assigns a sacred wood to specific month it is ppossible to make a conjecture about the time frame of James and Lily Potter's birthdays
We know that James Potter's first wand was made of Mahogany. One of names for the Alder tree is Scottish Mahogany
In the Highlands of Scotland this 'bog Alder' was used for making handsome chairs from which it became known as 'Scottish Mahogany'. The branches of the Alder made good charcoal and was a valuable commodity for making gunpowder. Dyers, tanners and leather dressers used its bark commercially and fishermen use it for making nets.
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The assignment of a mahogany wand to James Potter could possibly indicate a birthdate between March 18th and April 14th. While, the assignment of a wand made of willow to Lily Potter could possibly indicate a birthdate between April 15th and May 12th as shown in the link below.
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Hogs Head - Jan 9, 2005 1:51 pm (#1379 of 2930)
Given the unproven premise that we will see no birthdays for folks who don't survive Book 7, that's a pretty good sign for Snape. However, remember that the premise remains just that -- unproven. At least we have yet to see a birthday for anyone known, as of the end of Book 5, to be deceased. (I supposed we might see one for a ghost.) And, just so you know, I'm not hoping that the premise proves to be correct or incorrect -- I'm just watching to test it out.
Mare - Jan 10, 2005 12:51 am (#1380 of 2930)
Aaah, happy birthday Snape! I hope you celebrated Gina!
Kerrie-Louise - Jan 10, 2005 1:40 am (#1381 of 2930)
I agree that Lupin is likely to be a Pisces and I think Sirius would have been a Leo. Unfortunetly i don't think we will get confirmation of Sirius as I find it highly unlikely Jo would put a dead persons birthday up!
skh - Jan 10, 2005 4:47 am (#1382 of 2930)
Ann - regarding the plotline on the rubbish bin page, do you think that 2nd name / words from the left could be "baby Potter"? As I think the handwriting throughout the site suggests that Jo writes a small letter B in that sort of old fashioned way, with the circular part of the "b" not joined up...?
Ann - Jan 10, 2005 6:39 am (#1383 of 2930)
Could be, Sarah, though the letter looks a bit more open than the b in Rubeus; but I just don't think we can tell. On the other hand, that would imply that this was the plan for the very beginning of Book 1, and I don't quite see where Harry, Hermione, Ron, and Sirius would fit into that.
skh - Jan 10, 2005 7:46 am (#1384 of 2930)
True - Sirius I suppose does fit in, as he did appear on the scene just after the Potters were murdered, didn't he? (PoA,Marauder's Map chapter, Hagrid says that he was the last one to see Black when he went to collect Harry.) But that still doesn't make Hermione and Ron fit... unless it's a backward timeline of some type... I'm just burbling now, thinking out loud...
Also, the fact that it's on the floor by the rubbish bin I suppose indicates that it is rubbish - although I knowing what to discount is a great tip!
hawkeyetkdchick - Jan 10, 2005 9:04 am (#1385 of 2930)
Edited by Jan 10, 2005 8:05 am
I think the discussion about the "tree" on the rubbish bin page begins on the last thread with post #1684 and then continues with posts #1689, #1696, #1699, #1700, and #1701, which Ann reposted above. I think that's all of the discussion on the last thread.
Ronan - Jan 10, 2005 2:24 pm (#1386 of 2930)
For me the most interesting thing about Severus's birthday showing in JKR's site... is that it's the first not completely good character to be featured in the calendar. Does that mean Severus won't turn out to be a traitor, that he's definetly on Albus's (and Harry's) side? This is very exciting!
Snuffles - Jan 10, 2005 2:28 pm (#1387 of 2930)
I do hope that Severus is on the side of good, but with JKR who knows!?!
Ainsley Black - Jan 10, 2005 2:40 pm (#1388 of 2930)
I'm sure i've read somewhere that JKR said snape would redeem himslef or something to that effect but i can't find the quote now (typical).
Helen Potterfan - Jan 10, 2005 3:44 pm (#1389 of 2930)
JKR has said quite a few things about Snape. For a comprehensive list, see Madam Scoop's page on Snape. Highlights include (paraphrased by Madam Scoop, so don't shoot the messenger!):
Snape is fun to write, because he is a deeply horrible person. [FE-99]
Snape is loosely based on a sadistic teacher she had. [WBUR-99]
JKR: "everyone should keep their eye on Snape, I'll just say that, because there's more to him than meets the eye...." [WBUR-99]
JKR thinks that that the thought of Snape in love is a "very horrible idea" and is stunned that someone wonders if Snape might fall in love. We will find out why in book 7. [WBUR-99]
[I had to include this one for you Gina. So, does that mean that Gina will show up in book 7? ]
JKR: "You shouldn't think [Snape is] too nice. Let me just say that. It is worth keeping an eye on old Severus Snape, definitely." [RAH-03]
Dumbledore has heard and believes Snape’s story as to why he should be trusted. [WBD-04]
Neville Longbottom - Jan 10, 2005 4:33 pm (#1390 of 2930)
For me the most interesting thing about Severus's birthday showing in JKR's site... is that it's the first not completely good character to be featured in the calendar.
There was also Percy, who I think belongs to this category as well. But yes, I agree with you that that's a good sign for them.
Qwaz - Jan 10, 2005 4:52 pm (#1391 of 2930)
I think Percy wasn't ever "not good" just misguided and over-ambitious. Humble-Pie would come with difficulty to Percy I think though i could be wrong and Mrs.Weasley's upbringing of Percy should certainly be remembered.
Hogs Head - Jan 10, 2005 6:34 pm (#1392 of 2930)
Percy isn't evil, per se, but is merely infected with that type of foolishness typically referred to as "bureaucracy." "Bureau-think" is usually benignly stupid -- simply aggravating. Even at its near-worst, it simply defies most traditional definitions of evil. At its very worst, however, it can produce, enable, or tolerate to an intolerable degree the very worst sorts of evil.
The inclusion of his birthday isn't surprising, because I think Percy isn't evil or an irretrievable fool -- he is simply a misguided and naive "idealist" -- albeit (in Book 5) adhering to an idealsim based on very misplaced values and ideals.
Gina R Snape - Jan 10, 2005 8:17 pm (#1393 of 2930)
There's yet to be a witch named Gina in the Potterverse. Maybe I'll be the next DADA teacher.
It's true, though, Snape is the first, um, ambiguous character to grace the birthday calendar.
remiden - Jan 10, 2005 10:05 pm (#1394 of 2930)
Rowling said that Percy owuld redeem himself, but I do not recall her ever saying that Snape would redeem himself. We have yet to see or hear that snape does in fact have anything to redeem himself for, so I doubt she would let a spoiler like that slip out. It is much more her style to allow everyone to assume that because Snape seems like he is a bad person and then spring a surprise on us. While Snape certainly seems like a bad guy, he has never done anything to our knowledge to deserve that title, other than being overly hard on Harry and once being a death eater. So Iam sure you are saying that being a death eater means that he was bad, jsut remember, she has stated that alot of people were forced to help Voldemort and she has not shed light on what his reasons or why Dumbledore trusts him so much. In book one, Snape risked his life with Fluffy to keep Quirrell from getting the potion, after that, he was trying a counter jinx to keep harry from falling off his broom. And furthermore, all through the books, he has in some way or another, despite being less than pleasant, has acted for the better side of things. So as of now, he certainly is deserving of being on the calendar for the side of good.....
Saralinda Again - Jan 10, 2005 10:23 pm (#1395 of 2930)
My presumption is that JKR's warnings about how we should keep an eye on Snape serve the same purpose as (I think) her warnings not to assume that Harry will survive the series.
Being confident that everything will come out fine for Harry is kind of like watching most TV detective series -- when you know the good guys will come out OK in the end or there will be no episode next week, most of the suspense is pretty minor.
Being confident that Snape will consistently act on the side of the angels (so to speak) would also decrease the suspense.
(And let's face it: Part of the excitement and buzz that keep this forum and sites like it going is the not knowing for sure.)
Just my two knuts ...
Consistently guessing wrong about Harry Potter since 2002.
Qwaz - Jan 11, 2005 4:14 am (#1396 of 2930)
Gina - and not one called "Matthew" yet to my memory
Her-melanie - Jan 11, 2005 7:06 am (#1397 of 2930)
Gina, I was just thinking last night how funny it would be for JKR to include someone in Potterverse named Gina, maybe someone sympathetic to him during his school days. Or the new DADA teacher... ... Remiden, if you look on The Leaky Cauldron's site, they have compiled all JKR's interviews, and there is one where someone tells her that "there's a sort of redemptive pattern to Snape." JKR responds by saying she is sort of shocked the person said that, but that she can't say why because it's coming up in the last book. So that's where the Snape/redemption topic comes up.
remiden - Jan 11, 2005 8:09 am (#1398 of 2930)
but the point still stands that she never said Snape would redeem himself correct?
Daisy Pennifold - Jan 11, 2005 8:10 am (#1399 of 2930)
I like the fact that Snape and Elvis Presley share a birthday.
Steve Newton - Jan 11, 2005 8:13 am (#1400 of 2930)
Oh No! Could this mean that Snape is the King?
Her-melanie - Jan 11, 2005 8:25 am (#1401 of 2930)
Yet another piece of evidence that Snape is the HBP. Remiden, no I don't think she has explicitly said that.
From Venus - Jan 11, 2005 9:46 am (#1402 of 2930)
As far as birthdays go, I put all my relatives' and friends' birthdays on my calendar every year, whether they are currently among the living or not. Just because someone has died, doesn't mean I can't still think about them and celebrate their life on their birthday. That's what a birthday is for; celebrating someone's birth and life, past or present. Since it is believed that people have souls that live on after they are gone, and this belief is evident in Potterverse, then I think we can assume to say that there is nothing wrong with wishing "happy birthday" to someone who is deceased.
Qwaz, I think that if we take Percy's upbringing into consideration, we would be suprised by the way he's acting in the first place, so I don't think that it really enters into whether Percy is evil or not. Personally, I think that he was bewitched to act the way he did. He was kind of a stinker to begin with, and all he needed was a little push to go over the edge. I think it was recognized by someone that he was a good candidate for this, otherwise, why would he have gotten the job he had so easily? Surely there was someone more qualified that was not right out of school. But all this should go to the Percy thread, I suppose.
BTW...Thora, yes, the red & white ribbons have always been on the big trophy, except during Christmastime, when they were replaced with Christmassy stuff. And, Accio HBP, great avatar, that was pretty fast fingers to capture the doxie!!
wickedweasley - Jan 11, 2005 10:56 am (#1403 of 2930)
Edited by Jan 11, 2005 10:18 am
Jk herself I believe was asked was Percy behaving under his own influence in OoP to which she answered "I am afraid so" Edit to reference quote. I got it fro quick quills World Book Day Chat Echo: Was Percy acting entirely of his own accord in Order of the Phoenix? JK Rowling replies -> I'm afraid so.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 11, 2005 12:57 pm (#1404 of 2930)
Thanks Venus! Fast fingers and a little fast editing to remove the background. Speaking of avatars, Gina, I emailed you a picture of Alan Rickman with a crown on his head from TLC . All hail King Severus and Queen Gina! (Actually, that thought is quite scary, no offense to you Gina!)
Ann - Jan 11, 2005 1:04 pm (#1405 of 2930)
Well, Severus is the name of a Roman emperor! (By the way, wasn't Elvis's birthday the 9th? I thought the 10th turned out to be Richard Nixon's, another imperial type.)
Helen Potterfan - Jan 11, 2005 1:17 pm (#1406 of 2930)
I just checked and Elvis's birthday is listed as the 8th (1935). Snape's birthday is the 9th (1959 or 60).
I've been looking at the timeline and thinking about Percy. It must have been difficult to be the third child behind Bill and Charlie. When Percy was in his second year, Bill is head boy and Charlie is prefect, and later Charlie becomes the Captain of the Quidditch team. I think he's just an overachiever type who feels like he has to be better than everyone else and always do the "right" thing. There is still a chance that Percy can realize his mistake. The big test for Percy will be whether he can swallow his pride and the very things that make up his self identity in order to reunite with the family. He may also find himself in the unfortunate position of Ministry scapegoat, which may force him to realize his mistakes and turn back to his family. I'm not sure. The fact that JKR wished him a happy birthday has always made me think that he will redeem himself, and I'm still leaning that way. But the addition of a birthday wish to Snape clouds my conviction that I'm right.
Fred and George react by being the opposite of their brothers. Ron is obviously in a difficult position as the youngest child with obvious aspirations of living up to his older brothers and a desire to be valued as an individual himself. All of these things help explain his complicated response to Harry's fame and his position as Harry's sidekick. Ginny, as the youngest, and only girl, has her own issues to deal with.
Ann - Jan 11, 2005 1:22 pm (#1407 of 2930)
Ooops! Sorry, I was a day off. Well, I was right about Elvis being the day before anyway.
Daisy Pennifold - Jan 11, 2005 3:40 pm (#1408 of 2930)
Sorry about the Elvis mistake - all of the Snape postings I'm reading on here are dated Jan. 8, so I assumed that is when his birthday was announced.
According to my calendar, Jan. 9 is also the birthday of Simone de Beauvoir, existentialist French philosopher and author of The Marquis de Sade (tr. 1953) and the following (not a complete list):
All Men Are Mortal (1946, tr. 1955)
The Blood of Others (1946, tr. 1948)
The Coming of Age (1970, tr. 1972)
Force of Circumstance (1963, tr. 1964)
A Very Easy Death (1964, tr. 1966)
All Said and Done (tr. 1974).
Hogs Head - Jan 12, 2005 6:43 am (#1409 of 2930)
Other than once having been a DE (set right by switching over to the OoP and becoming an agent for Albus Dumbledore), from what should Snape redeemed himself? Being an unpleasant person? Being at odds with Harry or with Harry as a unwitting surrogate for James Potter? Being a potential weak link in the OoP? "Redeem" is such a strong word.
Gina R Snape - Jan 12, 2005 10:39 am (#1410 of 2930)
Hogs Head, we don't know what things Snape may have done while he was a death eater or leading up to it. But I'd say 'just' being a DE and switching sides is significant enough. Anyway, further discussion belongs on the Snape thread, so I'll leave it at that.
You guys were really cracking me up there. I'd happily be Queen *snort* but I'm still wrestling with the idea of being JKR.
Liz Mann - Jan 12, 2005 1:37 pm (#1411 of 2930)
Just as a matter of interest, does anyone else like the sound of some of the old opening chapters of book one that J.K. put in the extras section? She doesn't seem to like the one about Hermione's dad seeing an explosion and rowing out to an island to find the Potters' dead, but I do for some reason. I like the idea of Harry and Hermione having that connection. And I quite like the sound of Pirites.
Aurora Gubbins - Jan 12, 2005 3:38 pm (#1412 of 2930)
Funny how the idea of something happening to harry on a remote, stormy island stayed in the book! Early draft - distant explosion/Grangers/deaths of Lily and James; Publised version - Harry is filled in on his life and the wizarding world by Hagrid.
A minor detail being important, perhaps for book 7?
Quibbler Editor In Chief - Jan 12, 2005 4:12 pm (#1413 of 2930)
Snape may not share a birthday with Elvis, but he does share Richard M. Nixon's birthday, whatever that could mean.
Ann - Jan 12, 2005 4:29 pm (#1414 of 2930)
Snape may not share a birthday with Elvis, but he does share Richard M. Nixon's birthday, whatever that could mean.
Um, well, I'd say, given Ms. Rowling's politics, if she did that intentionally, it's not a good sign. But I think it's probably not what she had in mind.
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 12, 2005 6:05 pm (#1415 of 2930)
I don't know but didn't Snape make the following comment in OotP
I am not a crook
From Venus - Jan 12, 2005 7:33 pm (#1416 of 2930)
OMG!!! Mickey! NIXON! SNAPE! CROOK!
Gina R Snape - Jan 12, 2005 8:26 pm (#1417 of 2930)
Nathan Zimmermann - Jan 12, 2005 9:07 pm (#1418 of 2930)
That is hillarious, I wish I thought of it. I wonder if Snape has a dog named Checkers.
Madame Librarian - Jan 12, 2005 9:09 pm (#1419 of 2930)
No, but if there is a Mrs. Snape (Gina?), she wears a good, Republican cloth coat.
Hollywand - Jan 12, 2005 9:31 pm (#1420 of 2930)
I was actually liking the idea of Severus Sightings....
Severus has left the castle, folks.......
You ain't nothin' but a Blast-Ended Skrewt
That sort of thing.......
Steve Newton - Jan 13, 2005 7:32 am (#1421 of 2930)
Hollywand, what an opportunity was missed.
Gina R Snape - Jan 13, 2005 8:02 am (#1422 of 2930)
No, but if there is a Mrs. Snape (Gina?), she wears a good, Republican cloth coat.
I assure you, Mzzzzz Librarian that Madam Snape would never been seen in a Republican cloth coat...or any other muggle wear for that matter.
So, when is JKR going to respond to that blasted poll already?!
Qwaz - Jan 13, 2005 10:37 am (#1423 of 2930)
That's exactly what i've been wondering over Mrs.Snape
Love it to be on sunday (My birthday) as it'd nicely break up the monotony of my exams.
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 13, 2005 1:32 pm (#1424 of 2930)
Might wait until the new addition comes and do it all at one time.
Tomoé - Jan 13, 2005 1:49 pm (#1425 of 2930)
I think it'll take a while. I believe she's either pregnant to boot or have a very little baby and still tired of the delivery (I do hope she'll give us a word when to baby will be born, but you never know, sometimes bad stuff happens and your forget the fans. I hope nothing like this have or will happen though). We had a release date on December 20th and loads of answer on December 10th, so I don't expect anything before at least February.
Ann - Jan 13, 2005 2:11 pm (#1426 of 2930)
Nonsense, she knows we're insatiable. Besides, once HBP is at the printers, she can begin to dangle more little bits of it in front of us. It'll be easy, since it's done. Oh, except of course she'll be really, really busy finishing up Book 7.
One similarity I can see between Snape and RMN is [expletive deleted]"!
Gina R Snape - Jan 13, 2005 2:29 pm (#1427 of 2930)
Oh, I'm sure the birth of her child will be posted on the site. It might show up as an AP news item first, though.
Tomoé - Jan 13, 2005 2:33 pm (#1428 of 2930)
Right Gina, Ap at least will tell us. ^_^
She didn't give us anything in November, so she could leave us waiting for a whole month again, she's pregnant, HbP is finished, I think she's taking a break and I think she deserve it.
riotgrrrl - Jan 13, 2005 9:57 pm (#1429 of 2930)
Sorry if this has been posted before but today I was thinking about the release date for book 6 and it occurred to me: July = 7th month 16th = 1+6=7 2005= 2+5=7
All 7's. Does this mean anything? What was the amount of time between door openings? Was 7 weeks (or for some reason 4 is familiar)? Does anyone think there is a pattern?
Tomoé - Jan 13, 2005 10:41 pm (#1430 of 2930)
Hum, so the date goes like 7-7-7, like 7 times 7 weeks of 7 days (which by the way gives 343 days). I don't think it means anything, I would rather look when Jessica's end of the year exams are planned, I'm sure there's a correlation. If I was Jo, I would make sure I won't get skinned alive next parents meeting, because their children were reading my book instead of studing and get bad marks as a result. ^_^
The seventh day of the seventh week from December 20th is February 7th. By the way, December 21th was the 1st day of the 8th week from Halloween, close enough to hope there will be hopening of the RoR on the first Monday of February. It used to be open on Sunday, so maybe it'll open on February 6th.
Qwaz - Jan 14, 2005 12:17 am (#1431 of 2930)
Sorry, what are "RMN" and "AP"?
Goes to check lexicon abbreviations*
Tomoé - Jan 14, 2005 12:22 am (#1432 of 2930)
I think AP stand for Associated Press, I could be wrong.
I have no idea what RMN stand for, though.
Neville Longbottom - Jan 14, 2005 2:12 am (#1433 of 2930)
Sorry if this has been posted before but today I was thinking about the release date for book 6 and it occurred to me: July = 7th month 16th = 1+6=7 2005= 2+5=7
Then I'm glad it wasn't released on June 15th 2004. I'm sure some extreme Christians wozld have their joy with this date.
scoop2172000 - Jan 14, 2005 5:51 am (#1434 of 2930)
AP does stand for Associate Press, which is one of the leading sydnicated news wires in the world. Reuters is another. Too, there are the major news networks like CNN and BBC.
If you all recall, the wires and networks were quick to report JKR's marriage a few years back. I imagine they'll be equally as quick reporting the birth.
Ann - Jan 14, 2005 6:36 am (#1435 of 2930)
RMN: Sorry. We were talking about Richard M. Nixon, the late former US president, who shares Snape's birthday. Nixon secretly taped his Oval Office conversations, and when transcripts of the tapes were released, many of his supporters were very upset to find that the transcripts were full of the notation [Expletive Deleted]."
Somehow, [Expletive Deleted]" sounded very Snape-ish to me. **sighs** I do feel rather old this morning.
Elanor - Jan 14, 2005 10:26 am (#1436 of 2930)
I was lost in a daydream driving back from work today and thought that Sunday would be a great day for an update on Jo's site since it will remain exactly 6 months before the HBP release on Sunday.
The probability is not very good, but the thought is still comforting after a hard day of teaching! BTW, even if there is no update, the simple fact of knowing that we will be less than 6 months from the release date does me good, is it the same for you?
John Bumbledore - Jan 14, 2005 11:05 am (#1437 of 2930)
The M in RMN
Ann, **sighs** I do feel rather old this morning.
Don't! Then I would have to feel the same, :pbtp: since I can remember that . . . Milhous was his middle name.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
P. S. Speaking of middle names, HJP (or HPJ ?) has James for a middle name, do we know any other characters middle names?
Julia. - Jan 14, 2005 11:23 am (#1438 of 2930)
Are you Kidding John?
Remus John Lupin
Ronald Bilius Weasley
Hermione Jane Granger
Delorus Jane Umbridge
Ginevra Molly Weasley
Percy Ignatius Weasley
Cornelius Oswald Fudge
Amelia Susan Bones
Albus Percival Wolfirc Brian Dumbledore
Sibyll Patricia Trelawney
Does that answer your question John?
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 14, 2005 12:16 pm (#1439 of 2930)
Richard Milhouse Nixon
John Bumbledore - Jan 14, 2005 12:26 pm (#1440 of 2930)
Julia, I'll update my Insufferable-know-it-all list And I am guessing your middle name is Hermione? (see the chat thread for my mention of the IKIA list. *coming soon* )
Lately, with nothing new or changed on Jo's website, I've taken to capturing small image sections from the different rooms. Now, I just need ideas for what to do with them...
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
P. S. Mikie, drop the e and you have it. (I did research it for spelling before I posted my *secret text* in my previous post.) Unless you have a more authoritative source than dictionary.com, it is Milhous. (once again, if I wasn't already on that IKIA list I'd be put there again now.)
Qwaz - Jan 14, 2005 2:37 pm (#1441 of 2930)
Thankyou for the info on AP and RMN.
I have to say that I'd forgotten most of those middle names. I remembered Dumbledore's, percy's and Cornelius' off the top of my head but the rest (esp. Hermione's) I'd completely forgotten :O
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 14, 2005 3:14 pm (#1442 of 2930)
I stand corrected Bumbledore. Yield to a greater mind.
Joelle - Jan 14, 2005 3:31 pm (#1443 of 2930)
Hermione Jane Granger Dolores Jane Umbridge
Oh I bet if Hermione knew.. she'd be furious. I'd be. I also think it is interesting that umbridge sounds a lot like.. wait I mean is umbridge. Ok so I thought it sounded a lot like a word that means irritation, or insult and has connotations of grating, but I went to find it and it isn't there. Do you guys know what word I mean? Ok Sorry if this was a completely meaningless post.
EDIT: I found it!!! Ok its umbrage. And it means
1. Offense; resentment: took umbrage at their rudeness. a. Something that affords shade. b. Shadow or shade. See Synonyms at shade. 2. A vague or indistinct indication; a hint.
Not really sure why shade and shadow are under offense, but I do think that it reminds me of Dolores. So it wasn't a completely pointless post.
Ann - Jan 14, 2005 4:04 pm (#1444 of 2930)
I think the basic meaning is shade (think umbrella). Perhaps to take umbrage means to take shelter from someone's rudeness, or maybe it refers to the darkening of the face. The "take offense" meaning is clearly secondary, based on the way my dictionary lists it.
Cuivienen - Jan 14, 2005 6:52 pm (#1445 of 2930)
Well, I think the meaning was pretty obvious. Dolores is Spanish for "pains" (it may mean "pains" in other Romance languages as well, I don't know) and Umbridge = Umbrage = Offense. The name just accentuates Umbridge's foul personality and hatefulness.
Gina R Snape - Jan 14, 2005 9:17 pm (#1446 of 2930)
Yes. The rest of the wizarding world takes umbrage with Umbridge's behaviour...
remiden - Jan 14, 2005 11:00 pm (#1447 of 2930)
Isn't it odd that we do not know Harry's middle name? Maybe we will find it out and it will have some significance. Could you imagine if his name turned out to be something like Harold Marvoloso Potter? Or Harold Plant Potter???
Nathan Zimmermann - Jan 14, 2005 11:05 pm (#1448 of 2930)
Remiden, Harry's middle name is James. It is noted during the Hearing in OotP and J.K. Rowling stated it an earlier interview.
Hollywand - Jan 14, 2005 11:29 pm (#1449 of 2930)
I suspect he gets the "Harold Plant Potter" handle because he doesn't care much for dancing. :-) Thanks for the laugh!
Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 15, 2005 1:38 am (#1450 of 2930)
Oh why couldn't JKR have given Harry Potter a middle name like Brian or Benjamin - then he would have been the HBP.
Sorry - off to do an impression of a house elf. Now where did I put that iron?
septentrion - Jan 15, 2005 8:52 am (#1451 of 2930)
to take umbrage is word for word the same in frecnh : "prendre ombrage", and so Umbridge was translated in "Ombrage". Yet her name has been kept, but Dolores isn't so far from "douleur" (pain).
I hope an update tomorrow too. Six monthes ! Phew, we need something to think of !
Helen Potterfan - Jan 15, 2005 12:38 pm (#1452 of 2930)
If it makes today any more bearable, many of us will actually get in line six months from today ! I hope to be reading the book on the subway on the way back home by 12:15 a.m., which will still seem like the 15th!
Chemyst - Jan 15, 2005 6:39 pm (#1453 of 2930)
One more thing about "umbrage" meaning shade, a vague or shadowy shape, or simply an outline ( archaic ). 15th century. Via Old French, from, ultimately, Latin umbra “shadow.”
In Dante's Inferno, at least in the translation I have, all the souls in hell are called "shades."
vball man - Jan 15, 2005 10:02 pm (#1454 of 2930)
I don't know if its been said, but about Umbridge = Shadow,
In Harry's hearing at the MoM: On Fudge's right was another witch, but she was sitting so far back on the bench that her face was in shadow.
That's the first we hear of her.
Ronan - Jan 16, 2005 4:27 pm (#1455 of 2930)
Maybe all of you already knew this, but I'll add this bit of info anyway =) Apart from being a spanish word which means "pains", Dolores is also a pretty typical spanish girls name. Now, you may wonder why on earth a parent would like to name his/her daughter with such a gloomy name, but the origin of the name is in fact religious. Apparently there's a version of virgin Mary called "la Virgen de los dolores", that is, the Virgin of Pains.
Usually girls named Dolores choose to be called by the nickname "Lola", which sounds much nicer, but surely Umbridge wouldn't let anyone call her like that
Thora - Jan 16, 2005 7:46 pm (#1456 of 2930)
(Sings) What ever Lola wants, Lola gets, and if not she'll carve it in your hand, there's no exception to the rule, she tortured Potter while at school...
eh hem, Okay back on topic does anyone know what kind of dog that is on the extra stuff board?
From Venus - Jan 16, 2005 11:14 pm (#1457 of 2930)
It looks to me like some kind of little terrier, like maybe fox or something. It's cute. I think it might be her dog.
Catherine - Jan 17, 2005 6:03 am (#1458 of 2930)
JKR has a Jack Russell terrier, so it is possibly a picture of her dog.
Phelim Mcintyre - Jan 17, 2005 7:06 am (#1459 of 2930)
It's not a Jack Russell - it's a Krup!!!!
Thora - Jan 17, 2005 11:58 am (#1460 of 2930)
lol, thanks, hmmm no obvious clues there, I guess.
Cezar Salem - Jan 18, 2005 7:56 am (#1461 of 2930)
J.K look at us!!! I think we need some serius amount of updates! we are discussing nixon, and dogs here... Poll question update please!!!!
From Venus - Jan 18, 2005 9:08 am (#1462 of 2930)
Yes, Jo, please, anything will do. Why not give us an update on how you're feeling and when the baby's due. A lot of us would like to know these things.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 18, 2005 10:14 am (#1463 of 2930)
Simply becaue there is nothing else to talk about, let's take a poll of how many chapters you think HBP will have. On the rumours page, JKR says, "HBP is shorter than the Order of the Phoenix, and I can tell you now that it has fewer than 38 chapters." Here are the chapter totals of the other books: OoP has 38 chapters, GoF, 37 chapters, PoA 22 chapters,CoS 18 chapters, SS 17 chapters.
My vote is 28 chapters. I'll tally votes for a week if anyone is interested in voting (yes, I'm desperate for something to fill my time. July never seemed so far away)
Elanor - Jan 18, 2005 10:17 am (#1464 of 2930)
Great idea Accio HBP!
My vote is 37 chapters, it would be shorter than OotP... In fact, I don't want the HBP to be shorter than that!
Ann - Jan 18, 2005 10:37 am (#1465 of 2930)
I'll vote for 35! But I hope they're long ones!
Denise P. - Jan 18, 2005 10:47 am (#1466 of 2930)
There is already a thread devoted to various votes, please take the discussion there. I realize there is a lack of information to discuss right now but this thread is for discussion of the site, not how many chapters HBP will be.
Kip Carter, "Vote" #, 6 May 2004 7:41 am
Helen Potterfan - Jan 18, 2005 11:08 am (#1467 of 2930)
Hi Denise, I realize that there is a separate thread for voting, but there is currently another vote taking place, and this vote is related to JKR's web site because JKR has posted about the chapters on her site (and probably will again). We have done polls on this site in the past if they were relevant, so I thought this would be OK. I wouldn't want to move it there until the current vote is ending; it would get too confusing. So I suppose I'll suggest it as the next topic on which to vote.
constant vigilance - Jan 18, 2005 3:12 pm (#1468 of 2930)
I'm just hoping I still get to read close to 800 pages. There's only one addition chapter in Order of the Phoenix but a huge difference in page numbers when compared to Goblet. So, I would be delighted of Half-Blood Prince was somewhere between the two.
Lady Kazuma - Jan 19, 2005 6:16 am (#1469 of 2930)
They never said Prince was shorter than Goblet, right? So, I'd like to think that there are 30-some of the new, improved, longer chapters.
Denise P. - Jan 19, 2005 7:22 am (#1470 of 2930)
Please remember, this is not the thread to vote on. This thread is to discuss JK Rowlings Official Site.
Thomas Phifer - Jan 19, 2005 9:36 am (#1471 of 2930)
Is there nothing more to do on her site since I last checked? Just four rewards and odd things happening at various times, along with no door opening? We need something new! They should add new puzzles weekly or something!
GryffEndora - Jan 19, 2005 9:50 am (#1472 of 2930)
I believe there are 7 rewards. Check the top of this thread.
Lady Kazuma - Jan 20, 2005 6:18 am (#1473 of 2930)
Well, I wasn't trying to vote, I was trying to discuss how long the book would be, which is having to do with JK's website. She said that it would not be longer than Phoenix, but said nothing of it being shorter than Goblet, and I guess you can come to your own conclusion. No voting on my part.
From Venus - Jan 20, 2005 8:47 am (#1474 of 2930)
As for me, I hope the book is very long. I am not relishing the series coming to an end. On the one hand, I'm really looking forward to reading the new book, but on the other hand, part of the fun is not knowing what's going to happen, and trying to guess. I always enjoy myself when re-reading the first 5 books, but nothing can compare to the enjoyment and excitement of reading them for the first time. And now there are only 2 books that we haven't read. The fun is coming to an end, and I'm not in a hurry for that to happen.
Snuffles - Jan 20, 2005 8:52 am (#1475 of 2930)
Exactly From Venus. When i get book 7 i wont know whether to read it all straight away or frame it for a couple of years to keep the suspense going! I cant wait to know what happens but then again when ive finished it i will be upset knowing that was the last book. (unless we can kidnap JKR and make her produce a prequel!)
From Venus - Jan 20, 2005 11:30 am (#1476 of 2930)
OK, Snuffles, you get the rope, I'll get the paper, quills, and ink.
The Artful Dodger - Jan 20, 2005 12:43 pm (#1477 of 2930)
It would be great if we all could obliviate ourselves by the time book 7 is released. Then we could enjoy the excitement over and over again. OK, there might be some nasty side effects, but who cares?
scoop2172000 - Jan 21, 2005 5:57 am (#1478 of 2930)
Or, we could all get Time Turners and go back to the days when we read Harry Potter books for the first time.
Her-melanie - Jan 21, 2005 6:40 am (#1479 of 2930)
Okay guys, I think it's safe to say JKR is going to have her baby soon. That announcement on her website was on July 24th last year. She couldn't have been more than 3 months pregnant because she would have had the baby already. If she was 3 months, she will have him/her any day now, since 9 months places her due date around the end of January. I don't think it's usual to announce before 3 months, though, is it?
Aurora Gubbins - Jan 21, 2005 6:47 am (#1480 of 2930)
This 7 weeks of 7 days thing; Has anyone kept a track of when the door opens and when the next opening is due? Is it the 7th February? I want to see the cover art for the book, maybe we'll get to see the HBP on the cover!
Her-melanie - Jan 21, 2005 6:56 am (#1481 of 2930)
I think it is around the second week of February, Aurora, but since Valentine's Day is right around then, some think that will be the next magical day. I definitely need something new to discuss; we need a good JKR interview or something.
Tomoé - Jan 21, 2005 7:53 am (#1482 of 2930)
Yes, the 7th day of the 7th week from December 21st is February 8th, however, before the disturbance of Holloween(Monday) and winter soltice(Tuesday), the door always open on Sunday, so I'll check the door on February 6th, 7th and 8th.
Thora - Jan 21, 2005 4:13 pm (#1483 of 2930)
What, you mean you don't all check it every day anyway? Gasp!
(toddles off for mu daily check, I've added clicking the mirror to my fruitless clicking on the door knob and switching the, I know I'm pathetic)
Ann - Jan 21, 2005 5:19 pm (#1484 of 2930)
Thora, we're all pathetic. I do the same things. But someday, something's going to happen, right?
Tomoé - Jan 21, 2005 11:58 pm (#1485 of 2930)
Thora -> What, you mean you don't all check it every day anyway? Gasp!
Well .. er ... no ...
*Tomoe run and take cover before the dungbombs get her*
dizzy lizzy - Jan 22, 2005 12:10 am (#1486 of 2930)
I don't check the site until I check this thread out. I generally look at the "Number of new posts" gizmo and the date/time. If there are too many new posts on this thread then I hop over to JK's site pretty quick smart. If not I leave it up to others to check it out and trust they will alert us to new possibilites on her site.
(Runs and joins Tomoe in taking cover before dungbombs get them both!)
Sticky Glue - Jan 22, 2005 3:39 am (#1487 of 2930)
Hi Lizzy, & Tomoe,
I pretty much do the same thing, but sometimes I pop in and have a look on her site, in hope that I might get something first, because I'm on a different time zone - about 12 hours ahead of most of you. I think I might have been lucky once.
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 22, 2005 5:29 am (#1488 of 2930)
Being in the Central time zone in the U.S. I doubt if I will ever beat anybody except those poor folk located in the western U.S.
Ydnam96 - Jan 22, 2005 9:53 am (#1489 of 2930)
dizzy lizzy I do the same thing. As I live all the way in the Pacific time zone I'm always confident that this thread will not only let me know something is going on, but will also tell me how to do it. (as I am not the kind of person who would be able to figure it out on my own. I'm not that clever).
Hollywand - Jan 22, 2005 12:52 pm (#1490 of 2930)
Actually MC here on the West Coast our evenings synch nicely with the witching hour Greenwich time so we can be at the avant garde. ;-)
From Venus - Jan 22, 2005 8:18 pm (#1491 of 2930)
I generally check JKR's site first and then use the link to this site from the trophy room. That way I can listen for stuff over there while I'm on this one. I don't know what it is I think I will hear, but, that's what I do.
Hermy - Jan 23, 2005 12:32 pm (#1492 of 2930)
JKR's site is really sluggish today. Maybe it is about to be updated.
scully jones - Jan 23, 2005 4:32 pm (#1493 of 2930)
I find it exciting that all of the parts of the site work fine for me, except when I try to go to the secret door, the whole thing freezes up. Either everybody's trying it at once or they're working on it!
MickeyCee3948 - Jan 23, 2005 4:41 pm (#1494 of 2930)
Just checked the site and it loaded fine for me with no visible updates.
remiden - Jan 23, 2005 9:08 pm (#1495 of 2930)
everything loaded with no porblems for me as well.
skh - Jan 24, 2005 6:08 am (#1496 of 2930)
I have to say, I'm a "Sticky Glue" type of checker, depends on the mood! However, I had a root round the site about an hour ago, but no changes and no "hanging pages" etc... BOO! According to some formula that was being discussed on the radio this morning (in Ireland) today is the most depressing day of the year - in the British Isles, at any rate... So we need a boost, can we have an update to cheer us up?!
Elanor - Jan 24, 2005 9:17 am (#1497 of 2930)
Well, skh, I have good news to tell you that I have just read on Mugglenet: yesterday 23rd January, Jo has given birth to a healthy baby girl! It says also that more information will appear on her site soon!
Edit: no doubt her name has already been written by the magic quill in the Hogwarts' Book of Witches and Wizards!
Snuffles - Jan 24, 2005 9:19 am (#1498 of 2930)
GryffEndora - Jan 24, 2005 9:25 am (#1499 of 2930)
Hooray!!! Congratulations to the new parents!
Neville Longbottom - Jan 24, 2005 9:59 am (#1500 of 2930)
Congratulations. Glad to here that mother and daughter are healthy.
Ronan - Jan 24, 2005 10:13 am (#1501 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo!! I really look forward to hearing from her soon!
Helen Potterfan - Jan 24, 2005 10:21 am (#1502 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo! The announcement on TLC came from CBBC (BBC for children, I assume). It's great that we'll get info on the web site! I'll be checking every few hours over the next few days!
Winky Woo - Jan 24, 2005 10:30 am (#1503 of 2930)
Accio, you assume correct, Childrens BBC. It was on a childrens News program called Newsround.
I keep popping in and out the site to see if its updated...
Annika - Jan 24, 2005 10:31 am (#1504 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo! Glad to hear all is well!
Springtime - Jan 24, 2005 12:14 pm (#1505 of 2930)
Congratulation Jo! Take care!
Thora - Jan 24, 2005 12:55 pm (#1506 of 2930)
Yay! Congrats Jo!
So I guess our math was good, I love guessing right.
No update on the site yet. I expect she's still a bit tired, though I have to say my third was a very easy recovery, and I wish her the same good fortune.
KWeldon - Jan 24, 2005 1:29 pm (#1507 of 2930)
Congrats, Jo!!! Yeah!
Doris Crockford - Jan 24, 2005 2:50 pm (#1508 of 2930)
Congratulations, Jo! Another girl!
Scarlet Seer - Jan 24, 2005 2:51 pm (#1509 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Jo's daughter! Congratulations, JKR!
Aurora Gubbins - Jan 24, 2005 3:43 pm (#1510 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo and Neil! Can we have a happy family pic on the notice board, please?
Chemyst - Jan 24, 2005 4:30 pm (#1511 of 2930)
When I saw double-digit posts on this thread, I figured it meant baby had arrived!
I'm with you, Aurora, in hoping for a family picture, although some celebs like to keep their children's privacy.
vball man - Jan 24, 2005 4:32 pm (#1512 of 2930)
Congratulations, Jo and Neil !
Grant the Great - Jan 24, 2005 5:25 pm (#1513 of 2930)
Also, on the topic of discovering things first . . . if I recall correctly, I believe I was the first to discover the first door opening (oh, I'm so proud!). Heck, I never figure anything out on my own (except the whole thing the last time the door opened), so I've gotta brag about something, right?
Jak Frank - Jan 25, 2005 1:02 am (#1514 of 2930)
How wonderful. Pass my congratulations on.
Mare - Jan 25, 2005 1:02 am (#1515 of 2930)
Brag away Grant...
And: Congratulations Jo and Neil!
And Jessica and David off course!
skh - Jan 25, 2005 2:36 am (#1516 of 2930)
A new year, a new baby, how exciting! I was 8 when my little sister was born - I was SOOO excited!
Congratulations, that's such cool news!
vanessa cave - Jan 25, 2005 5:33 am (#1517 of 2930)
Congratulations!! Jo, a great start to the new year
Ann - Jan 25, 2005 5:51 am (#1518 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo & Neil & Jessica & David!
Sirius i love - Jan 25, 2005 5:58 am (#1519 of 2930)
Hooray!!! Congratulations to the new parents! hope it went well!
Tomoé - Jan 25, 2005 6:28 am (#1520 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo and Neil! Congratulations Jessica and David!
Helen Potterfan - Jan 25, 2005 8:02 am (#1521 of 2930)
I'm quite envious Jo, a pre-release best seller and a new baby! I hope this is a great year for you!
HBP News: The American edition will be 672 pages. There is also a "Deluxe Edition" which "will include a slipcase with unique art and a 32-page insert with the black and white art from the interior blown up to full page size." (quoted from the BN.com from the publisher). It has 704 pages. I'm wondering if that means 32 chapters, since the interior art in American editions has traditionally been at the beginning of each chapter. Page numbers are now listed on Scholastic, BN.com, Amazon, and other book sites, and confirmed on TLC.
One poster on TLC said that there are more words/page in OoP than in GoF, and if this book is set like OoP it could still be "longer" than GoF, even though it is shorter. I'm desperate enough to believe her!
wickedweasley - Jan 25, 2005 8:04 am (#1522 of 2930)
Edited by Jan 25, 2005 7:20 am
Website is updated and the babies names is.... you will have to check the site!!!!
I have to say I love it!
EDIT In my excitement at this news I almost forgot to say thank you Jo for taking some of your valuable between feeding, changing, winding and just staring with amazement at your precious little one, to think of us and share your joy. We are as always thankful for your generosity and wishing you a good sleeper.
Winky Woo - Jan 25, 2005 8:08 am (#1523 of 2930)
WOW! I dont think anyone saw that name comming!...
septentrion - Jan 25, 2005 8:11 am (#1524 of 2930)
Welcome to the world to Mackenzie Murray ! (OK I spill the beans but you have to do the effort of highlighting to have the answer)
32 pages-insert : one work-art for the book title page and 31 chapters ? It'd be less chapters than GoF, but 672 pages of pure bliss. I'm already picturing in my head the width of the book, I'm imagining myself confortably curled on my sofa near the window or laying in my bed reading the book. HHMMMMMM !
Eponine - Jan 25, 2005 8:11 am (#1525 of 2930)
It's a pretty name. Congratulations, Jo!
Helen Potterfan - Jan 25, 2005 8:16 am (#1526 of 2930)
Thanks for sharing your moment with us Jo! We'll definitely take the updates, but take your time (just not too much)!
Julie Aronson - Jan 25, 2005 8:18 am (#1527 of 2930)
Welcome baby sister!!!
Ydnam96 - Jan 25, 2005 8:20 am (#1528 of 2930)
What a wonderful name for JK's new daughter, I approve (although that's neither here nor there)! I'm loving the four names...I'm wondering if the 2nd middle name is really a middle name or if it's a hyphen thing?
OH, and she said she may be doing updates soon. I can't believe it. A new mom and still thinking about her fans. How amazing!
Hollywand - Jan 25, 2005 8:31 am (#1529 of 2930)
Just a few more now, Jo and you will have a complete Quidditch team!
Welcome to your new princess!
Thanks for being such an inspiration to everyone!
Love and the best year ever to you and your family!
Elanor - Jan 25, 2005 8:33 am (#1530 of 2930)
This is a beautiful name indeed!
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your happiness with us, Jo. It means a lot to us as well!
Julia. - Jan 25, 2005 8:35 am (#1531 of 2930)
Beautiful name Jo! Mazel tov again to you and your family! Paitently waiting for updates while you get some sleep!
Snuffles - Jan 25, 2005 8:43 am (#1532 of 2930)
If you ever need any babysitters Jo, while you work, im sure there are a few (thousand) people willing to help you!!
Neville Longbottom - Jan 25, 2005 9:18 am (#1533 of 2930)
Congratulations Jo and Neill. :-)
From Venus - Jan 25, 2005 9:20 am (#1534 of 2930)
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW DAUGHTER, JO AND NEIL. I WISH HER EVERY HAPPINESS AND PEACE AND JOY.
riotgrrrl - Jan 25, 2005 10:14 am (#1535 of 2930)
Wow!!! She even had time to put updates on her site, I'm even more impressed. Jo is truly a modern mom! On another note, did anyone have trouble accessing this site yesterday (Monday)? I tried about every 30 minutes for 5 hours and I couldn't gain access. Every other site was fine so I think it was the site and not the computer. Anyone else?
Cat 7 of 9 - Jan 25, 2005 10:23 am (#1536 of 2930)
Mackenzie, Welcome to the word, (I have a wonderful aunt with the name Mackenzie)
Jo & Neil Congratulations!
Jessica & David be gentle with your sister & have lots of fun together!
Accio Sirius - Jan 25, 2005 10:36 am (#1537 of 2930)
I have a niece named Mackenzie! Congrats Jo! Well done!
Nathan Zimmermann - Jan 25, 2005 10:47 am (#1538 of 2930)
Congratulations to Ms. Rowling and her family may your days be blessed with much joy and happiness.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 25, 2005 10:52 am (#1539 of 2930)
riotgrrrl, yes, this site went down for a while yesterday. It seems to be up and running today with no problems or damage.
Tomoé - Jan 25, 2005 11:21 am (#1540 of 2930)
I didn't know that name could be use as a first name, but I always liked the sound of it. It sounds to be the perfect name for a lovely little girl. ^_~
By the way, here what behindthename.com says about Mackenzie : "From the Gaelic surname Mac Coinnich, which means "son of Coinneach". Coinneach is an Irish name meaning "handsome". A famous bearer of the surname was William Lyon MacKenzie, a Canadian journalist and political rebel. Is there any revolutionary named David? Could the David who faught Goliath count as one?
Anyway, take your time Jo there weren't any update before May 2004, and we made it through, our interest won't die if we have nothing for a couple a weeks. ^_~ Thanks for sharing your daughter birth with us.
Scholastic HbP will have 672 pages, he? The American hardcover version of Harry Potter books are:
So HbP lenght should be exactly 75% of OoP, a bit shorter than GoF, a half longer than PoA, almost twice as long as CoS and more than twice as long as SS.
Kajsa - Jan 25, 2005 11:41 am (#1541 of 2930)
Congratulations, Jo and Neil (and David and Jessica)! Lots of health and joy to your little princess!
GryffEndora - Jan 25, 2005 12:01 pm (#1542 of 2930)
I've loved the name Mackenzie ever since the tv show "One Day at a Time". The eldest daughter was played by Mackenzie Phillips, Daughter of John Phillips from the Mamas and the Papas and half-sister to the Chynna Phillips from Wilson Phillips. I've heard it several times since and I always love it!
Sadie - Jan 25, 2005 12:53 pm (#1543 of 2930)
Much happiness to Jo and your family. How wonderful to have a new baby daughter! AND to still be thinking of your fans. You are an amazing woman and it is so appreciated!
dizzy lizzy - Jan 25, 2005 3:51 pm (#1544 of 2930)
Congratulations and best wishes to Jo, Neil, David and Jessica. Many wishes and blessing for a wonderful life Mackenzie.
PS: Thank you so much for updating us with the news.
T Brightwater - Jan 25, 2005 5:20 pm (#1545 of 2930)
Congratulations, Jo! Welcome, Mackenzie, and best wishes to your entire family. (and here's hoping only good witches come to your christening!)
Qwaz - Jan 25, 2005 6:00 pm (#1546 of 2930)
I bet this is beginging to sound old now but Congratulations Jo and Family
Glad you're both doing well and thank you so much for keeping us informed.
MzWhizz123 - Jan 25, 2005 10:38 pm (#1547 of 2930)
Jo, I am so happy for you and your family!
My third child has done more to open my eyes to the beauty in the world than I would ever know. (They can be sneaky, too, so watch out! They learn from the mistakes of thier older sibs and know just how to skirt the Danger Zone!)
P.S. I am also a third child!
Rest when you can and enjoy!
Flutterby - Jan 25, 2005 11:29 pm (#1548 of 2930)
I haven't been on here for awhile, reeling from my own revelation of impending girth!, Congrats to Jo and Niel ! And on MY BIRTHDAY!!!!! Of course 32 years later but hey! Pretty cool!
Mare - Jan 26, 2005 3:44 am (#1549 of 2930)
So HbP lenght should be exactly 75% of OoP, a bit shorter than GoF, a half longer than PoA, almost twice as long as CoS and more than twice as long as SS.
Anyway I can fly you over to do some of my statistic tests?
On another note: Many thanks to Ozymandias and Bumbledore! Thanks to them, I have all the screenshots from the last two times the door opened and they are now neatly inserted in the text in the first post.
so for everybody who wants to look back, or could never see it in the first place... it's there now.
Blast - Jan 26, 2005 3:49 am (#1550 of 2930)
Wow, I was hopeing for Newton or Blastina, but you can't have everything in life.
Ainsley Black - Jan 26, 2005 4:56 am (#1551 of 2930)
HUge congratulations to Jo and Neil and all thier family!
Laurel VonWick - Jan 26, 2005 7:08 am (#1552 of 2930)
Many blessings to you and your family Jo. Thank you for honoring us with your news.
Her-melanie - Jan 26, 2005 8:01 am (#1553 of 2930)
CONGRATS JO AND FAMILY! The cheek of that baby, interrupting our long-awaited updates! Creating suspense must come naturally to Jo AND her offspring! (Just kidding, Jo; please take care of your new kid, and don't worry about us.)
From Venus - Jan 26, 2005 8:41 am (#1554 of 2930)
I was planning to do a few more updates to this site when events overtook me on Sunday, so when I've got past the next feed or two...I shall make a few more tweaks." -J.K.Rowling
How long do you all think it will be before we start seeing those updates?
constant vigilance - Jan 26, 2005 9:36 am (#1555 of 2930)
Congratulations to Jo and her family!
Welcome to the earth little Mackenzie.
Ainsley Black - Jan 26, 2005 10:44 am (#1556 of 2930)
Calm down Venus give her a chance to get home and enjoy her new baby. I know after i had mine i didn't want to do much that didn't involve her. I'd be happy to wait for any updates, means the space between now and HBP seems less and less!
Helen Potterfan - Jan 26, 2005 2:16 pm (#1557 of 2930)
I agree Ainsley! At least it gives us something to look forward to in the near future, since July seems so far away.
The giant squid - Jan 26, 2005 2:29 pm (#1558 of 2930)
How long do you all think it will be before we start seeing those updates?
Well, she says "After the next feed or two"...so probably sometime tomorrow. Seriously, I'm guessing a week or two at the least. Even with modern medicine and the comforts that come of beng richer than the Queen, it takes a bit to recover from the act of bringing a life into this world. Besides, if all she's doing is fussing with the baby for a while, maybe Jo'll get as antsy as we are & give us something really cool!
Prefect Marcus - Jan 26, 2005 4:24 pm (#1559 of 2930)
Edited by Jan 26, 2005 3:25 pm
Don't get your hopes up too much. She is still in the process of editing HBP. Also, it would not surprise me in the least if she dives right in and begins the LAST BOOK! "The Goal is in sight!"
So I expect only a tidbit or two.
Let's hope I'm wrong. :-)
Kajsa - Jan 26, 2005 4:57 pm (#1560 of 2930)
Actually I sort of dread the days when the 7th book will be announced in this or that way. How the writing is going, the name, the release date. The brilliant story will be finally coming to its end.
Star Crossed - Jan 26, 2005 7:08 pm (#1561 of 2930)
Don't remind me, Kajsa, I like the idea someone came up with when they said we'll read the books, then JKR can Obliviate us every day so we can relive the fun.
popkin - Jan 27, 2005 8:47 am (#1562 of 2930)
The important part of this post:
Congratulations, Jo, to you, your healthy new baby, and to your family. We are so happy for you all. You can forget about us for as long as you like and just enjoy getting to know your new daughter.
Kajsa, I'm very much looking forward to being able to read the story in its entirety. I'm hoping JKR's been working on it all along with the rest of her books and it's well on its way already. I dread the long wait for its completion. Well, "dread" is a pretty strong word. But I am tired of waiting.
Still, I appreciate the fact that Ms. Rowling has continued to write the series. She never had to. She certainly doesn't need the money. I think it speaks very well of her integrity, and her devotion to her craft and her fans.
Also, July doesn't look that far off to me at all. I think just having a definite date when we will be able to read the HBP makes the wait much shorter.
azi - Jan 27, 2005 11:32 am (#1563 of 2930)
Just out of interest, does anyone know if JKR mentioned on her site that there will be the death of a major character in book 6? I was on amazon.co.uk today and it said she had said that on her website but I don't remember seeing it. I remember 'there will be a lot more deaths' from interviews etc. but not the major character bit.
KTO - Jan 27, 2005 12:05 pm (#1564 of 2930)
I think she is mostly done with the seventh book and it will be released in Dec of 05
Auror Tonks - Jan 27, 2005 12:07 pm (#1565 of 2930)
at the risk of sounding redundant congrats JK!! and yes she did say more characters would die. i believe if you look in the FAQs thats where she mentioned it.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 27, 2005 12:31 pm (#1566 of 2930)
Azi, In the FAQ section, JKR answers the question, "Are you going to kill any more characters?" with "Yes. Sorry."
This does not reference major characters, but I think this is implied. She's probably not apologizing for killing "bad guys". I doubt it will be HRH. I thought I remembered another reference, but I can't find it anywhere. I looked in Madam Scoop's, and I re-read the Edinburgh Book Festival transcript, and I didn't see a reference anywhere else.
Elanor - Jan 27, 2005 1:16 pm (#1567 of 2930)
I have a question for the British members here: do you celebrate Candlemas in Great-Britain? JKR seems to like symbolical dates for her updates and the Candlemas feast (February, the 2nd) could be a possibility. It is a very old feast, celebrated by Romans and Celts before becoming a Christian feast. It is a feast of light, hence the "candle" in candlemas (I think). In France, it is called "la chandeleur" and you find the word "chandelier" (candlestick) in it.
The tradition here is to cook some "crêpes", pancakes, on that day. It is a very old tradition and the round and golden pancake was symbolizing once the sun, days that become longer and the near end of winter. Does the same thing exist in Great Britain? If it does, this could be a date JKR may appreciate...
Little Ginny - Jan 27, 2005 1:32 pm (#1568 of 2930)
I don't know about Britain, but the 2nd February is celebrated in Germany, at least by Catholic people. It's called something like "St. Mary's Candlemas" (roughly translated), and you celebrate that baby Jesus was brought to the temple to have his briss (I think). It's the official end of the Christmas time, by this date you have to have put down all your christmas decorations (at least, that's what my mum tells me).
But I forgot the most important thing (though I'm not the first to say it): Congratulations to the new baby!!! What a nice name!
Ainsley Black - Jan 27, 2005 2:13 pm (#1569 of 2930)
Firstly I've never heard of "Candlemas" and having gone to a catholic school I do not remember any mention of it, maybe it's just not so common over here in the UK (alothough I'm probably wrong! LOL)
Secondly, I've just had a look at the Lexicon news page and in the Newspaper Hedwig is holding it has a new headline "January 28 2005" then a sub-headline "So what do you say to that?"
Could someone explaine this to me please as it doesn't seem to be relevent to any of the stories or any updates on the JKR site (not that there are any updates, just before you all go rushing off!)
dizzy lizzy - Jan 27, 2005 3:00 pm (#1570 of 2930)
Ainsley, I not at all sure what it means. It is 9am here on the 28th Jan and I don't get any updates until the UK hit midnight. As they are 11 hours or so behind me, I would expect to see something on the site after 11am my time.
It could also refer to the article relating to the bloomsbury editions, but thats too much of a fuss over a picture of a book with a big stamp over half of the book.
T Brightwater - Jan 27, 2005 3:33 pm (#1571 of 2930)
Actually, the feast that commemorates the circumcision of Jesus is January 1st (eight days after his birth.) Candlemas, February 2, is also known as the feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin, or the Meeting or Encounter in the eastern church, in reference to Jesus & Mary's meeting with the prophet Simeon (which was the occasion for the text of the "Nunc Dimittis" - "Lord, now let your servant depart in peace.") The western church has a tradition of ritual blessing of candles on this day, hence the name. I think among neopagans it's called Imbolc; it's the "cross-quarter day" halfway between the winter solstice and the vernal equinox. The secular equivalent in the US is Groundhog Day.
(aren't you glad you know all that? :-))
Hogs Head - Jan 27, 2005 4:06 pm (#1572 of 2930)
In the U.S., Feb. 2 is "Groundhog's Day," the day the mythical groundhog comes out of his hole, looks around, and either decides that winter is over (stays out of his hole) or that it isn't (sees his shadow and goes back in the hole). All utter nonsense of course but great fun.
This village is the backdrop for the movie named "Groundhog Day." In that movie you will see the village in Pennsylvania that claims its groundhog to be the actual one. They've become semi-official simply because of the low number of other hamlets vying for the honor. Somehow, I doubt that JKR will adopt the Groundhog Day theme into her website update schedule.
Thora - Jan 27, 2005 4:54 pm (#1573 of 2930)
There are really only 4 holidays mentioned in the books aren't there? Halloween, Christmas, Valentines, and Easter. So far she's stuck with those hasn't she?
Medulla - Jan 27, 2005 7:13 pm (#1574 of 2930)
Wow I never knew the date actually had significance, here in Australia we just call it pancake day- I thought it was just a random tradition. Thanks for enlightening me!
Lady Kazuma - Jan 27, 2005 8:34 pm (#1575 of 2930)
That groundhog isn't mythical, I've seen him O.o The village is Punxsutawney, and I couldn't imagine being anywhere else when Punxsutawney Phil comes out to look for his shadow on February 2nd. Don't rain on my holiday! You make it sound like it's not important... Maybe it's only important in Pennsylvania?... Oh well.
popkin - Jan 27, 2005 9:42 pm (#1576 of 2930)
Thanks for the enlightenment, T. Brightwater. That was very interesting.
Hogshead and Lady Kazuma, the movie Groundhog Day is one of my family's favorites. We didn't know about Punxsutawney Phil before we saw it. Now, we watch for news of his actions every February 2.
Adding to the list of holidays JKR uses, I think she's mentioned Boxing Day. Also, the characters' birthdays have been mentioned, but the only one actually celebrated, so far, has been Dudley's. I hope that's remedied soon, and Harry has his first birthday party this summer.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 27, 2005 11:14 pm (#1577 of 2930)
JKR did mention boxing day, though I can't remember exactly where. She also married Neil on Boxing Day, so I'd say it's a special holiday for her! But since December 26 is gone and February 2nd is soon, I'd love to see a groundhog pop out of her site and tell us something that will make spring (and, more importantly, SUMMER) come sooner. Without new HP news, I'm afraid winter will seem to last longer than 6 weeks!
[For those non-Americans on the list, if Phil sees his shadow, he hides in his hole and we have winter for another 6 weeks. If he doesn't see his shadow, spring is on the way early.]
riotgrrrl - Jan 27, 2005 11:42 pm (#1578 of 2930)
So I only check the news section of this site once or so a week to read the updates (as I check JKR's site most regularly and since we will be experiencing a slight lull in the updates due to the newest arrival)and saw the story about the country singer that was arrested while stealing a copy of PoA on DVD in Arizona. Not that it's so interesting but it says the same lady was arrested in December in Denton, Texas. I was quite surprised as I live in Denton. It just goes to show the few degrees of separation we all encounter and how a story from such a small town made it on an international site is a little jolting to me. Please excuse my rambling...haven't been for my check-ups at St. Mungo's in a while...
Ainsley Black - Jan 28, 2005 3:55 am (#1579 of 2930)
Ok so in answer of my own question it has all been explained this morning on the news page of The Lexicon. I wont give it away! lol
Going back to 2nd February my diary says it is the "Purification" but it's not soo big in general in the UK cause it's not started on the actualy day page, just at the front of the diary.
Medulla - Our Pancake Day (Shrove Tuesday, the last day before Lent) is on February 8th this year, I remember this cause my mum is getting married on the 7th and I was trying to persuade her to have pancakes at the reception! LOL
Maybe we'll see loads of Jiff Lemons on the site on the 8th or loads of chocolate wrappers incase she's been eating as much chocolate as she can before giving it up for Lent. Personally I think she'll give us a nice treat at Easter (Easter Eggs???? Isn't that what we've all come to call them? Whay is that by the way, I wasn't around then?)
Oooo just think from February *th it's only 4 weeks till Easter and 157 days till we gat our hands on HBP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mare - Jan 28, 2005 4:25 am (#1580 of 2930)
Ainsley, your posts had my puzzled to no end...
Ok so in answer of my own question it has all been explained this morning on the news page of The Lexicon. I wont give it away! lol
That would be the news page of The Leaky Cauldron. Different website, same network.
skh - Jan 28, 2005 6:23 am (#1581 of 2930)
I think I vaguely remember going to mass for some candle blessing service when I was child... (Catholic Ireland!) However, I don't remember it from more recent years, like let's say after I was 9 or 10 maybe - and my parents are quite religious (when I go to stay at my Dad's, there's still no question of not getting up for mass on Sunday morning, even though most of firends stopped being frogmarched sometime during the college years!).
So, if Candlemas was a holy day of obligation, we'd have been at mass - maybe it was de-listed as an obligation day?!
Chemyst - Jan 28, 2005 7:18 am (#1582 of 2930)
America's Groundhog Day has German roots; German immigrants settled in hills of Pennsylvania where the "holiday" evolved. Here is an old poem about Candlemas:
If Candlemas be fair and bright,
Winter has another flight.
If Candlemas brings clouds and rain,
Winter will not come again.
You can easily see how the groundhog seeing a shadow would fit with that.
From Venus - Jan 28, 2005 8:44 am (#1583 of 2930)
Candlemas was never a holy day of obligation. It is merely the day used to bless candles for the year for church and home use, and to celebrate the day Jesus was presented at the temple in accordance with Jewish Law and was identified by Simeon and Anna as the awaited Messiah.
Winky Woo - Jan 28, 2005 11:08 am (#1584 of 2930)
My money is on Sunday for an update. Jo said that she was planning to update it last Sunday when events over took her, and seems a lot of updates and stuff in the past have happened then. I guess she will update the FAQ Poll and the fan site of the month (The reminder to pick a new one has been on her board for ages1) When/What do you think she will update?
Helen Potterfan - Jan 28, 2005 12:44 pm (#1585 of 2930)
Winky, the reminder to pick a new fan site has been up since before her last choice, but she will probably choose a new site. Maybe she'll wait to see TLC's forum. She hasn't chosen TLC, probably because until now it's been primarily a news venue. Now that they have a forum, they could be honored!
Elanor - Jan 28, 2005 2:07 pm (#1586 of 2930)
Thanks for all the information about February the 2nd!
T Brightwater: "it's the "cross-quarter day" halfway between the winter solstice and the vernal equinox". As she opened the door for the winter solstice, this date could well be interesting (at least, wondering about it helps to wait, don't you think so?).
I knew that Groundhog Day existed because I love the movie but I never realized it was on the same day that Candlemas. I loved your poem Chemist! We have a saying here that says nearly the same thing: "à la Chandeleur, l’hiver se meurt ou prend vigueur" (at Candlemas, winter is dying or becomes stronger). Okay, pancakes for everyone this weekend, we need some cheering in our waiting!
Her-melanie - Jan 29, 2005 8:42 pm (#1587 of 2930)
So, has anyone noticed so far what time the updates happen? Is it sometime around midmorning UK time? Just wondering. (Can't........contain.........excitement........)
Ydnam96 - Jan 29, 2005 9:40 pm (#1588 of 2930)
I think they happen around midnight British time. Usually I notice in the afternoons here on the West coast of the US. I could be wrong though, it may be because my afternoons are usually the slowest part of my days.
dizzy lizzy - Jan 29, 2005 11:50 pm (#1589 of 2930)
Nothing yet. I've just checked. JKR could wait until 1st Feb to change the wizard of the month over and sneak a few updates in while she is at it.
septentrion - Jan 30, 2005 4:10 am (#1590 of 2930)
The door and extra stuuf don't load for me, I hope it means updates, even if it would be soon after Mackenzie's birth.
Ainsley Black - Jan 30, 2005 4:17 am (#1591 of 2930)
They're loading ok here. Was a bit slow but then thats normally just my PC.
It's 11.15am here in th UK now and no updates yet, normally they would be up by now.
Magical Max - Jan 30, 2005 4:36 am (#1592 of 2930)
Patience , patience. JKR has a lot on her plate right now. Any no. of things could distract her and delay the updates.
Look on the bright side, maybe she just thought up an exciting part of book 6 or 7 and had to write it down while it was still fresh in her mind.
...exits singing "Don't worry, Be happy" only to be trampled by a rampaging hippogrif....
Ludicrous Patents Office - Jan 30, 2005 1:46 pm (#1593 of 2930)
I like one of the Scottish versions of February 2. The Old Woman of Winter Cailleach goes to an island and drinks from a spring of youth. She transforms in Brigit the Maiden of Spring who with her white wand turns the Earth green again. It is the celebration of Imbolg where ewes begin bearing young and lactating.
LOL John. Hope the hippogrif didn't hurt you to bad. I'm looking forward to the next update. LPO
From Venus - Jan 30, 2005 5:57 pm (#1594 of 2930)
Well, Sunday is drawing to a close, and still no updates. I'm starting to agree with whoever said that she'll probably do a few updates on Feb.1 when she updates the Wizard of the Month.
At least, I hope so.
Auror Tonks - Jan 30, 2005 7:55 pm (#1595 of 2930)
Im in Florida and its close to 10:00 pm here with still no updates. Im not getting any latency when i load the site so maybe we can hope for Tuesday the 1St of Feb.
skh - Jan 31, 2005 2:58 am (#1596 of 2930)
Feb. 1st is St. Bridget's Day in Ireland, she's the joint patron saint of Ireland (along with Patrick, whom I think most of you are already familiar with!)
Ainsley Black - Jan 31, 2005 10:55 am (#1597 of 2930)
Ok so there is a new News stroy on the site all about the alledged e-books of HBP for sale.
Can't see any other updates but i'm looking. lol
Edit: there is a new entry in the rubbish bin about her building a 15 bedroom mansion! I ask you does that really sound like the kind of thing our Jo would build? lol
Annika - Jan 31, 2005 11:09 am (#1598 of 2930)
I can't get into JKR's site. Is anyone else having trouble. It just never loads.
wickedweasley - Jan 31, 2005 12:11 pm (#1599 of 2930)
There is also an update in the extra stuff on owls!
Quibbler Editor In Chief - Jan 31, 2005 2:11 pm (#1600 of 2930)
Interesting updates, but what about the poll question? It seems like it has been FOREVER!
Also, are there any other stories that she could be hinting at that we should divide by three.
Ainsley Black - Jan 31, 2005 5:27 pm (#1601 of 2930)
New Wizard of the month guys! someone called Artemisia Lufkin. I'd tell you about this person but i can't open the link so i'll have to wait till the morning.
Medulla - Jan 31, 2005 5:29 pm (#1602 of 2930)
The new updates ment that I had to re-find all of the easter eggs ( Im not complaining because it was fun) did anyone else have this experience? I was using the same site that I always use.
Helen Potterfan - Jan 31, 2005 5:45 pm (#1603 of 2930)
Well, I hope we get more soon! I see the new wizard of the month name, but I also can't get the new wizard to load. It locks up every time. I knew about the e-book scam from TLC, but I hadn't heard the 15-bedroom house rumor. I hope Jo's rapidly expanding family will love the new 5 bedroom house once it's completed! Can I come stay in the spare bedroom ? Just kidding. As interesting as the rumor is, I hope we get more book clues soon!
Nat, I didn't have to re-find the easter eggs.
Tomoé - Jan 31, 2005 6:11 pm (#1604 of 2930)
I can see the new witch data, but not her picture, anyone can?
Thora - Jan 31, 2005 7:27 pm (#1605 of 2930)
5 bedrooms, quite sensible, I like her more everyday.
I don't even get the witch info, I'm sure they'll work it out soon.
Auror Tonks - Jan 31, 2005 11:46 pm (#1606 of 2930)
I didnt have to find all the easter eggs again but I wasnt able to load the witches info. Weird. Maybe it means we're getting some new suprises!!
From Venus - Feb 1, 2005 12:14 am (#1607 of 2930)
I, also, cannot open the wizard of the month. It locks up when I try.
HEY JO, SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT HOUSE! NOT TOO BIG AND NOT TOO SMALL. HAVE YOU GOT A GOOD VIEW?
I am happy to see the item about the owls. It's a very important message to get out. Glad to see she cares. (As if there was any doubt!)
EDIT: I didn't have to find my easter eggs either.
muggle born - Feb 1, 2005 2:26 am (#1608 of 2930)
The new witch loaded ok for me. Artemisia Lufkin 1754-1825 First witch to become minister for magic. I wonder if this is a clue that we will have a female minister for magic.
Rosie - Feb 1, 2005 3:32 am (#1609 of 2930)
If I remender correctly, Candlemass is also the name for the Winter term at lots of Public schools - so maybe there will be an update tomorrow! (Didn't Jo go to Public school?)
skh - Feb 1, 2005 5:12 am (#1610 of 2930)
I didn't think she did, Rosie.
Regarding term names, I think you're thinking of Michaelmas - the Oxford terms are Michaelmas, Hilary and Trinity. I think Cambridge also uses the term "Michaelmas term" for the 1st term.
Archangel - Feb 1, 2005 5:41 am (#1611 of 2930)
The Owls entry has been updated. When I checked this morning it was merely saying that she's not in favor of the trend of keeping owls as pets and rather encouraged people to just sponsor bird sanctuaries if they wish to own owl pets. Now, there's the Athena connection and there's mention of Pig, Errol, and Hedwig.
The witch of the month sort of looks like a young McGonagall and her wand looks like a candle.
From Venus - Feb 1, 2005 7:09 am (#1612 of 2930)
Well, now I can finally open the wizard of the month, and I think I know who the new minister of magic will be. I think it's going to be Amelia Susan Bones, who was the head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement. I think she would be the next logical minister, and she seems to like Harry, so that would be a good thing. After the last book, I'm ready for some positive things to happen to Harry.
PotterAddict - Feb 1, 2005 7:14 am (#1613 of 2930)
Just have a question. I was playing around and looking for anything new and the book with the question mark moved in the bookshelf with a strange hole or ?? behind it. Was this always there and I just missed it before?
prof sprout - Feb 1, 2005 7:24 am (#1614 of 2930)
That is a key to open a certain box with to get a treat.
lkb - Feb 1, 2005 7:26 am (#1615 of 2930)
that is the key hook for the box next to the book shelf. That had always been there....sorry.
PotterAddict - Feb 1, 2005 7:29 am (#1616 of 2930)
Oh boy, I better go back to bed. I knew that, just forgot. ugg.
'pulling blanket back over head'
From Venus - Feb 1, 2005 7:55 am (#1617 of 2930)
I re-read the owl entry this morning. It indeed has more than was there last night. I especially found the information on Hedwig interesting. I always thought that Harry's owl might prove to be special in some way. (At least, more special than your average, run-of-the-mill magical owl.) And, I didn't know that Snowy owls were sometimes known and ghost owls. That's very interesting. I wonder if it means anything.
Mare - Feb 1, 2005 8:50 am (#1618 of 2930)
I wonder why she took out the adoptive part though?
Lady Kazuma - Feb 1, 2005 5:42 pm (#1619 of 2930)
I hate to be negative, but I don't think Susan Bones will be the new Minister. You may think differently, but when asked if Arthur Weasley was going to be the new Minister, and she said unfortunately not, I took that as a bad omen. If it's unfortunate that Arthur wasn't going to be Minister, I thought it would mean that the new Minister would be a bad Minister.
Of course, she could have meant something else. That's just how I took it.
Catherine - Feb 1, 2005 5:47 pm (#1620 of 2930)
Hmm. What I took JKR's answer to mean is that we all like Arthur, and she is sorry that he will not be Minister, seeing as how we were all rooting for him.
Now, that is an interesting thought that the next Minister will be "bad." I thought Fudge was quite bad enough. Perhaps the new Minister will be bad in an overly totalitarian way?
As for me, I rather warmed to Madame Bones. I probably daren't call her Amelia, as we don't know one another, but she seems fair and does listen to evidence.
Prefect Marcus - Feb 1, 2005 6:06 pm (#1621 of 2930)
No, I doubt the next minister will be "bad". I think this mainly because I believe Rowling has milked the "Ministery is clueless" angle for all that it is worth. It is time to move on.
Grant the Great - Feb 1, 2005 6:47 pm (#1622 of 2930)
I also took JKR's quote to mean that the next minister would be bad. I think it could go in countless interesting directions, though, as Prefect Marcus said, she's used the clueless angle quite well. I think he/she will be downright vicious.
Star Crossed - Feb 1, 2005 6:54 pm (#1623 of 2930)
Well, Fudge has been downright vicious before. A great example would be the trial. I think we're going to get a positive minister this time.
TwinklingBlueEyes - Feb 1, 2005 8:57 pm (#1624 of 2930)
I agree we might get a positive minister this time. And Amelia Bones is my first choice. Although it may also be our new character. Only JKR knows for sure ;-)
Edited for added thought: And then again we may go from bad to worse :-) kinda like our DADA teachers.
Oh my! Ironing my hands! For the grammatically correct that should have read kind of...sorry!
MickeyCee3948 - Feb 1, 2005 8:59 pm (#1625 of 2930)
And she is too busy changing diapers and making 2 am feedings to answer us right now. I like Amelia Bones as the next Minister, also.
muggle born - Feb 1, 2005 11:55 pm (#1626 of 2930)
Umbridge for minister? What a depressing thought, Poor Harry wouldn't stand a chance.
Medulla - Feb 2, 2005 12:09 am (#1627 of 2930)
Incidently, I interpreted Jo's comment to mean that Arthur would die. Call me a pessimist I know, but I suspected that Jo's "sadness" arose from knowing that Arthur's fate was far worse than becoming the Minister.
From Venus - Feb 2, 2005 12:26 am (#1628 of 2930)
Oh my gosh, Medulla, I sure hope you're wrong.
Weeny Owl - Feb 2, 2005 2:14 am (#1629 of 2930)
No, I doubt the next minister will be "bad". I think this mainly because I believe Rowling has milked the "Ministery is clueless" angle for all that it is worth. It is time to move on.
That's how I saw it, Marcus. We've had enough inept government, and with things heating up, the Wizarding World wouldn't tolerate someone as bad or worse as its already had.
A for Arthur dying, I didn't take it that way. I thought it was exactly what Catherine said... we'd love Arthur to be Minister, but it won't work out that way.
Winky Woo - Feb 2, 2005 2:46 am (#1630 of 2930)
Scary point Pope Cornelius was followed by Pope Lucius.... Surely not!!!
Mare - Feb 2, 2005 3:03 am (#1631 of 2930)
Allthough I know that this "who will be the next minister" discussion came from something Jo has said, I think it will be better if it was continued here: Jessalynn Quirky, "Shake-up at the Ministry" #235, 2 Oct 2004 3:33 pm
After all, that is the topic of that thread!
Hogs Head - Feb 2, 2005 7:13 am (#1632 of 2930)
However, if this stuff -- comments about A. Weasley and Hedwig -- is coming from her official site, would someone please mind telling me where? For some reason I'm just not finding it there.
Fred Cringe - Feb 2, 2005 7:31 am (#1633 of 2930)
It's in the F.A.Q. section. Click on the paperclips on the main page.
Speaking of the FAQ - is there any particular reason why three of the questions are 'hidden' under an icon of the 'Dark Mark'?
GryffEndora - Feb 2, 2005 7:43 am (#1634 of 2930)
The Dark Mark means those are spoilers that will gave away details from the 5th book and should be avoided if you haven't finished reading book 5 yet.
Archangel - Feb 2, 2005 7:49 am (#1635 of 2930)
The Hedwig-Ghost Owl comment is in the Extra Stuff section >> Miscellaneous>> Owls. Hope that helps.
Her-melanie - Feb 2, 2005 9:24 am (#1636 of 2930)
What "adoptive" part did JKR take out of the "owls" update? I didn't see both versions, only the new edited one.
From Venus - Feb 2, 2005 9:35 am (#1637 of 2930)
Her-melanie, before the update, she said that owls did not make good pets, and she suggested that people who have become fond of owls because of the HP books should consider "adopting" an owl at a wildlife refuge or zoo, rather than try to get one as a pet. I think that's more or less the gist of it, I only read it once, and then it was updated.
Fred Cringe - Feb 2, 2005 10:13 am (#1638 of 2930)
Thanks for that.
In the Extras section - what is the purpose of the drawing with the feather, flask, spider and leaf. Is something supposed to happen? I've found/clicked on everything bar the spider - the only arachnid I can see is the one on the Links page but that doesn't seem to do anything.
Helen Potterfan - Feb 2, 2005 10:23 am (#1639 of 2930)
Fred Cringe, The feather, flask, spider and leaf are items that must be collected from various pages within the site. Once collected, you get a prize, or "easter egg". The spider in question appears on the opening page, and if you don't see a spider occasionally crawling around, you've probably already clicked it. This is one of the original easter eggs from the beginning of the revamped site. If you've gotten everything, you should have gotten a message and a prize, which would be stored in your scrapbook, which is the brown book at the top of the opening page. There are currently a total of 7 easter eggs that can be found.
Her-melanie - Feb 2, 2005 11:11 am (#1640 of 2930)
Thanks From Venus! I hate when I miss the originals.
remiden - Feb 2, 2005 9:18 pm (#1641 of 2930)
Very interesting Winky-woo.
Helen Potterfan - Feb 2, 2005 9:32 pm (#1642 of 2930)
In case anyone is interested...Phil did see his shadow, so it's 6 more weeks of winter. Groundhog stew anyone?! (don't worry, I was just kidding. No groundhogs were injured in the typing of this message.) I hope the "updates" we received weren't the ones to which JKR referred! I need something to chase the winter doldrums away.
amy clay - Feb 3, 2005 7:05 am (#1643 of 2930)
aaaah!! I've been reading your thread for quite some time, not feeling the need to post something. However, recently several of you have repeated mis-information. Yes, on the first update about owls (on the extra stuff page)all it stated was about JKR being against owning owls as pets. Then she gave us further information about some of the owls in the books. And people keep saying that she took the other part out, she didn't you just have to scroll down, at least I can still see it.
Anyway, thanks for reading and I'm exciting about being a part of the forum now. =)
Catherine - Feb 3, 2005 7:11 am (#1644 of 2930)
Amy, thanks for the correction; we do love to be correct here on the Forum. In the future, if you need to correct misinformation, let's leave out the "aaaaah" and comments of that sort.
We'd hate to think we caused you to suffer!
amy clay - Feb 3, 2005 7:25 am (#1645 of 2930)
Sorry about that, I just kept hoping that someone else would catch it and say something, instead I joined the forum. I just checked it again, and I was a tad bit wrong, it doesn't mention the adopting owls at a sanctuary, but it does say that she doesn't think anyone should keep them as pets. My aplogies again. =)
Mare - Feb 3, 2005 7:42 am (#1646 of 2930)
See! I wasn't as blind as I thought I was.
I wonder why she took it out though, maybe because she was afraid there would be a run on owl adopting? I can't see how that could be a bad thing?
We'd hate to think we caused you to suffer! <-SPEW!
And welcome to the forum Amy, be sure to hop to the tell about yourself thread so we can get to know you.
Ann - Feb 3, 2005 8:07 am (#1647 of 2930)
Marè, I think she may have taken out the adopt-an-owl suggestion because someone pointed out to her that you can't, really. She'd said (I only read it once, so this is vague) something about visiting your adopted owl in a sanctuary, and I don't think that would be possible. Perhaps someone told her so, and she deleted it on that account.
Also, her original post, even the part about simply not having owls as pets, seemed to me much stronger than it is now. My suspicion is that she decided that the whole thing was a bit intemperate, and toned it way down, then added the information about the owls in HP to fill it up a bit. I don't really think this is the "update" she promised. (Or, at least, I hope...!)
From Venus - Feb 3, 2005 8:29 am (#1648 of 2930)
I was planning to do a few more updates to this site when events overtook me on Sunday, so when I've got past the next feed or two, and maybe caught up on a little sleep, I shall make a few more tweaks. -J.K.Rowling, JK Rowling Official Site, Daily News 25/01/05.
When I read this, it didn't make me think there was anything big and exciting coming. Just a few tweaks, like she said. I am expecting something for Valentine's Day, though, like maybe some more "easter eggs". (Or possibly a box of chocolates?)
Madame Kulich - Feb 3, 2005 10:24 am (#1649 of 2930)
I think we will get something special on Valentine's Day - maybe an answer to the FAQ poll. How long has it been since she posted the questions? To me, it feels like it has been ages. If you are looking for a good date to put a new easter egg on your site or answer the FAQ poll, Jo, please do so on February 12 - my birthday!
Springtime - Feb 3, 2005 11:01 am (#1650 of 2930)
it would be nice is the poll was a monthly thing. If she asked the question at the begining of the month and answered it at the end of the month and put a new poll question up. that way we would have more to talk about. just a thought jo if you are listening??
Tomoé - Feb 3, 2005 11:27 am (#1651 of 2930)
Jo posted her new pool on December 10th, so it's almost 9 weeks already (the first pool was answered in 3 weeks and the second in 11 weeks). Unless Jo plan to break to record, we should get an answer soon.
dizzy lizzy - Feb 3, 2005 4:25 pm (#1652 of 2930)
I wonder if it was deliberate leaving that bit about adopting an owl up for such a short period. Long enough to encourage people into thinking about it, but short enough so that zoo's and animal sanctuary's don't get swamped with would be adopters.
In other words, her original suggestion lives on in the forums and bulletin boards of her devoted fans and not the general public.
Much as I'd like an update... I'd rather Jo and bub have an extended getting to know you period; its probably going to be a wild ride from now until book 7 is published.
haymoni - Feb 3, 2005 5:41 pm (#1653 of 2930)
I hit the "Recent" button so maybe I missed this.
I don't see the pencil cup anymore. Whatever will Peeves knock over?
Lady Kazuma - Feb 3, 2005 7:39 pm (#1654 of 2930)
I see the pencil cup fine, haymoni.
riotgrrrl - Feb 3, 2005 7:42 pm (#1655 of 2930)
I actually had an owl when I was young. We lived in a heavily wooded area and our dogs found it (I guess it fell out of the nest or something) and had trapped it under the truck. My grandmother rescued it and took it to a place where they could nurse it back to health. Unfortunately, it was so young and had adapted to humans so well that it could not be released into the wild and we had it for quite a few years. I was young so I'm not sure what type it was but it was very small and docile. We would have liked to have put it back in the woods but were told it probably would not survive and due to the large number of animals being cared for at the time at that establishment, they suggested we take it home. It was not a particularly "cuddly" animal and took some effort to feed. It would take a lot of work to keep an owl as a pet and their behavior is much different than that portrayed in the series. I agree that they should not really be kept as pets but I'm sure sanctuaries do need financial support so it seems bizarre that the entry was changed.
Kerrie-Louise - Feb 4, 2005 12:38 am (#1656 of 2930)
Just for the information of anyone in the UK who lives anywhere near Huntingdon The "Raptor Foundation" allows adoption of all sorts of owls. You can hold and fly them as well which is great fun. It's hugely under funded currently and most of their income for the upkeep of the birds is through adoption / sponcer!
Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 4, 2005 3:13 am (#1657 of 2930)
I notice no one has mentioned the update of a new witch of the month, so I will. She is Atremisia Lufkin - the first witch to become minister for magic. My question is was she better than Fudge?
Oh how board I must be waiting for the locked door to open and other important updates to be this picky.
amy clay - Feb 4, 2005 6:58 am (#1658 of 2930)
Actually several people mentioned her when she was first updated on January 31, because people had problems loading her picture and information. =)
From Venus - Feb 4, 2005 9:15 am (#1659 of 2930)
Actually, I think I mentioned her a while back, I had said something to the effect that since she had shown us a female MoM, that maybe that means that the new minister will be a woman, then I said I thought it would be Amelia Susan Bones.
MickeyCee3948 - Feb 4, 2005 11:52 am (#1660 of 2930)
Phelim Mcintyre - I sure hope the new MoM is better than Fudge of course it wouldn't take much to be an improvement. I am on the Amelia Bones for MoM bandwagon also.
Hogs Head - Feb 4, 2005 6:12 pm (#1661 of 2930)
From a plot development standpoint, I would not be surprised if the new Minister of Magic is actually worse -- perhaps moving from the doofus (Fudge) who inadvertently accommodates the bad guys to a cagey and covert aider and abettor. That would set the stage for a tense Book 6 that then leads to a more climactic Book 7.
Or, we could perhaps see an inept "reformer" come into power -- one that has everyone running at high speed in all the wrong directions.
Yes, we could have an Amelia Bones quality player emerge (male or female seems irrelevant to me; JKR does not seem too gender biased), but don't be surprised if she is not part of a victory scenario that emerges in the second half of Book 7 as victory is snatched from the jaws of defeat. If you see her as Minister of Magic in Book 6, look for her to be beleaguered by the hostility of overt foes as well as pseudo and/or inept friends.
(Okay, a little too much commentary following one too many single malts. God bless my native Scotland that I long to see one day.)
Sticky Glue - Feb 5, 2005 5:11 am (#1662 of 2930)
I still think that MR Weasley will become minister for magic in book seven, so for that to happen, I think it's likely that this next minister will be worse than fudge, and might be in voldermorts pocket.
Chemyst - Feb 5, 2005 7:23 am (#1663 of 2930)
Sticky Glue, IF you are right about Arthur Weasley becoming MoM by the end of book seven, (which I think would be a wonderful ending,) then perhaps the next minister would be someone like an Amelia Bones who – well, you know the saying; "Only the good die young."
Of Hogs Head's three proposals; cagey/covert, high-energy/inept, or quality player; I think the more likely plotting would be to have a quality minister, except with covert foes that take him/her out. Since it seems Fudge will be "run out of office," (as the advertisements in the tabloid at JKR's site indicate) the next round could be kicked up to "assassinated."
Hogs Head - Feb 5, 2005 8:16 am (#1664 of 2930)
kicked up to "assasinated" -- Another interesting possibility. But, alas, as this relates to JKR's official site, it as yet yields us no clues. Where are those clues we've been waiting for?
Eponine - Feb 5, 2005 5:17 pm (#1665 of 2930)
It's Arthur's birthday! Happy birthday, Mr. Weasley!
I think I'll send him some plugs.
GryffEndora - Feb 5, 2005 7:00 pm (#1666 of 2930)
Darn, you beat me here Eponine.
Anyway, Happy Birthday Mr. Weasley!!! I'll send him an old extension cord and some extra television cable.
haymoni - Feb 5, 2005 9:18 pm (#1667 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Arthur!
By the way, I still can't see the pencil cup.
I see the coffe cup and everything else, but not the pencil cup.
wickedweasley - Feb 6, 2005 1:57 am (#1668 of 2930)
pencil cup loads fine for me.
Happy Birthday Mr Weasley!
Well it is Sunday again! So I guess I should accept my fate and get comfy by the PC to keep checking Jo's site for updates to the FAQ!
Ainsley Black - Feb 6, 2005 5:53 am (#1669 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Arthur!
Let's hope all the family is with you celebrating (can you guess I'm hoping the Weasly's come out of this series all alive?)
NB haymoni - pencil tin is loading here, have you tried another site? .co.uk or .com?
Quibbler Editor In Chief - Feb 6, 2005 9:25 am (#1670 of 2930)
That's odd. The birthday of another U.S. president. This time Ronald Reagan. So first Snape and Nixon, now Reagan and Arthur. Does anyone have the list of all of the other birthdays announced on the site so that I can check for any more of these matches?
Ydnam96 - Feb 6, 2005 10:12 am (#1671 of 2930)
QEIC- I think that there is a list on the Lexicon. I'm not sure if they will have updated the latest birthdays as of yet, they are pretty busy all the time. But I'm pretty sure they have condensed all that info.
Quibbler Editor In Chief - Feb 6, 2005 10:48 am (#1672 of 2930)
The only other similarity that I could find so far was McGonagall and Rutherford B. Hayes both born on October 4th, but still a strange coincidence that it has happened three times.
Nathan Zimmermann - Feb 6, 2005 10:52 am (#1673 of 2930)
It is interesting each of the above named Presidents were Republicans and were surrounded by controversy durring their terms in office.
Catherine - Feb 6, 2005 11:10 am (#1674 of 2930)
The similarity of U.S. Presidential birthdays and Harry Potter Birthdays is fun to think about.
I was thinking that Nixon had to leave office; we know that Fudge will be leaving office, and probably after some of his dirty deeds and those of his underlings are exposed. Reagan managed to survive an assassination attempt; Arthur, too, has survived a direct attack on his life.
Nathan Zimmermann - Feb 6, 2005 12:04 pm (#1675 of 2930)
McGonagall like Hayes survived wounds suffered during a battle. Hayes was wounded six times during the U.S. Civil War.
Gina R Snape - Feb 6, 2005 12:50 pm (#1676 of 2930)
And much like Nixon, many people don't trust Snape. But that doesn't mean nothing they did is good!
I worry we might get the kippendo, though, if we steer too far into political discussion.
Hogs Head - Feb 6, 2005 1:07 pm (#1677 of 2930)
I worry we might get the kippendo, though, if we steer too far into political discussion.
So right you are. After all, Rutherford B. Hayes remains controversial to this day.
Catherine - Feb 6, 2005 1:17 pm (#1678 of 2930)
So right you are. After all, Rutherford B. Hayes remains controversial to this day. --Hogs Head
Well, he was married to "Lemonade Lucy," after all. This has been fun, as I enjoy Presidential trivia.
I don't think we are in Kippendo territory just yet, but Gina is right in that we need to be bringing things back on track, and focusing on JKR's website.
Madam Pince - Feb 6, 2005 10:37 pm (#1679 of 2930)
Isn't it strange how the human brain works (or doesn't work, sometimes?) When I read Eponine's comment that she thought she'd send plugs to Arthur Weasley for a birthday present, the first thing that popped into my mind was "Now why would she send him those? Doesn't she like his hair the way it is?"
riotgrrrl - Feb 6, 2005 11:34 pm (#1680 of 2930)
Madam Pince- I completely thought the same thing- nice to know I was not alone-also, you must've been sorted into Griffindor as I did not quite have the courage to admit it myself.
amy clay - Feb 7, 2005 7:04 am (#1681 of 2930)
Speaking of the sorting hat, can someone post the link to it, I haven't been able to find it? Thanks
riotgrrrl - Feb 7, 2005 9:46 am (#1682 of 2930)
Click on my name and when the profile comes up, click on the Ravenclaw icon.
Auror Tonks - Feb 7, 2005 6:27 pm (#1683 of 2930)
Im so upset. I've been in the bed with a bug the past few days and missed Authur's birthday. Does anyone have a screen shot of what his announcement looked like? Thanks
riotgrrrl - Feb 7, 2005 7:17 pm (#1684 of 2930)
It was just on the calendar notepad on the upper right-hand corner of the desk. It just said Happy Birthday Aruthur Weasley and there was no picture or anything.
skh - Feb 8, 2005 2:30 am (#1685 of 2930)
Well, in the absence of further updates, am "making up" semi-spurious topics of conversation in order to keep us (well me, at any rate!) entertained til an update comes along...
I've just been into the Rubbish Bin page - does anyone think that this page is likely to "more" important in coming updates? (i.e. there is often something new on the "extra" page, but - apart from updating the fan site or links, the trophy room and links page don't alter so much) It's the way different pieces of paper become active that makes me think.... Rather than bringing up the "rumours" list again, maybe in future they'll have different sub-sections?
Also, I was wondering what people's thoughts were on the following question:
How do you feel the website has most radially altered our thoughts? I was thinking myeslf about the answers to the open letter, but as these are mostly background and in-fill, perhaps the answer to the "Mark Evans" faq was more influential overall?
Just hoping to spark some debate to liven my day!
popkin - Feb 8, 2005 9:48 am (#1686 of 2930)
The "Mark Evans" faq was deflating. It had been so fun to speculate about who he really was, and then - nothing.
The most exciting news on the site to date has absolutely been the announcement that book six is finished and will be in our hands mid July. Now that an end's in sight, I can wait more patiently.
Poor JKR, it won't be more than a few days after we read six that we'll be clamoring for seven. Well, she gets a few months to enjoy her new baby in peace.
From Venus - Feb 8, 2005 10:18 am (#1687 of 2930)
All the talk about the presidents is very interesting, but why would a British writer care about American presidents?
John Bumbledore - Feb 8, 2005 3:30 pm (#1688 of 2930)
Likely to be Updated.
Sarah, within the most recent update there was an update to the rubbish bin, in the "Starting to Smell" category. It was about the rumor that "JKR creates ‘fifteen bedroom mansion’"
I would think the FAQs are the most likely place to find updates, including an answer to the FAQ poll question. (Note: not yet answered; guess Jo is still busy 'feeding', diapering, and sleeping. I am not too much of an old codger to remember these joys of renewed parenthood.) This is linked from the main "desk" page through the paper clips. Second most updated would be the news link and/or the rumors/tabloid link. Third, is perhaps the extra stuff page (through the coffee mug) especially if She is trying to hide it among existing information. Then, would be the fan site award (through the key), about every 3 to 6 months? Last, we have the Links page (through the pen) with the fewest updates, I don’t think it has been updated since it was created. And here they are for the text only side
Warner Bros. Harry Potter Website
One Parent Families
MS Society Scotland
Publicity and Press
Amnesty International UK
Well, I have undoubtedly missed something; so all, have at it. Just be kind to this bumbling old codger.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
Mrdrama - Feb 8, 2005 10:16 pm (#1689 of 2930)
I am wondering if she might give us something through new easter eggs. Perhaps we might get a tidbit of information by having to find something new?!
skh - Feb 9, 2005 4:01 am (#1690 of 2930)
Thanks John - I noticed the "15-bed mansion" story, was amusing! She also gave us the owls story.
I think one of the most fun days (apart from the day I discovered the JKR site itself for the first time!) was the day she gave us the rubbish bin as a new page and a load of new Easter Eggs - was fun!
Popkin - I agree that the Mark Evans thing was deflating, but it did re-direct thought, away from a red herring, I guess.
And From Venus - I have to say, from non-US resident / native etc., I have to say I wasn't finding the chats re. US presidents as diverting as you all did!! Although JKR is very interested in history and cute little "link-in's" like that in general...
Tomoé - Feb 10, 2005 12:16 am (#1691 of 2930)
With no update since February 6th, the 7th day of the 7th week thing is officially over.
skh - Feb 10, 2005 2:53 am (#1692 of 2930)
I had a dream last night that the Room of Requirement door was open - it was so real, I dashed into work... How sad was I?! :-(
Snuffles - Feb 10, 2005 3:34 am (#1693 of 2930)
Your not sad skh just obsessed like the rest of us!
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 10, 2005 3:58 am (#1694 of 2930)
I just noticed something I never noticed before: on "Some Random Facts About The Weasley Family," I saw one very short very simple sentence. "Arthur Weasley was one of three brothers." I don't remember hearing about this. I only remember Gideon and Fabian Prewett - Molly's brothers. Anyone else got any info on this?
Helen Potterfan - Feb 10, 2005 7:37 am (#1695 of 2930)
A few months ago we discussed the effect of web sites and fanfiction on JKR and on fans on this thread, and I promised someone--I think Steve Newton--that I would update you if I see any more conferences on the topic. I posted a CFP (call for papers) on the Chat and Greeting thread here. Helen
Tomoé - Feb 10, 2005 7:40 am (#1696 of 2930)
There's uncle Bilius (the one who die shortly after seeing the Grim), he may be one of Arthur's brother (we don't know yet if he's Molly or Arthur's brother).
I believe both Molly and Arthur don't have any close relative left, so it doesn't matter much what their names was or what they did for a living (though we would all like to know ^_~)
Steve Newton - Feb 10, 2005 12:08 pm (#1697 of 2930)
Accio HBP, yep, it was me. I finally ordered the journal that you mentioned and was informed yesterday that it is in the mail.
Thora - Feb 12, 2005 9:13 am (#1698 of 2930)
Have we discussed in depth the opening chapter of book six? I didn't find one on a quick search, and was wondering if 13 years is years in Jo's life or wizzarding years.
I have come close to using a chapter very like this in 'Philosopher's Stone' (it was one of the discarded first chapters), 'Prisoner of Azkaban' and 'Order of the Phoenix' but here, finally, it works, so it's staying. And that's all I'm going to say, but when you read it, just know that it's been about thirteen years in the brewing. JKRowling.com, extra stuff, edits
vball man - Feb 12, 2005 10:35 am (#1699 of 2930)
I took it to mean Jo's life. "...it's been about thirteen years..." "It" there is the chapter, and the "brewing" has been this writing process.
I would guess that it leads up to Harry dropped off. So, perhaps details about the Mauraders after school? Wormtail's fall?
Denise P. - Feb 12, 2005 10:37 am (#1700 of 2930)
I took it to mean that it has been 13 years since the idea of Harry first came to her, it has been brewing that long.
MickeyCee3948 - Feb 12, 2005 11:42 am (#1701 of 2930)
I agree with Denise, I took her comments to mean since she started formulating the story in her head.
Snuffles - Feb 12, 2005 1:52 pm (#1702 of 2930)
Congratulations to POA it has just received a British Bafta award for POA for best film of 2004 as voted by the public!.
Medulla - Feb 13, 2005 3:00 pm (#1703 of 2930)
Oh It's Valentines day and there aren't any new decorations or updates. I had got my hopes up. Mabey they will come later in the day. Oh Well off to work.
vanessa cave - Feb 13, 2005 3:38 pm (#1704 of 2930)
It's not valentines day here in the uk yet so there is still hope!
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 13, 2005 3:42 pm (#1705 of 2930)
Has anyone ever noticed a shooting star through the window? (The one next to the RoR) I never noticed it before, but as soon as I saw it I thought of shooting stars/comets being harbingers of doom. Ooh-er!
Thora - Feb 13, 2005 3:58 pm (#1706 of 2930)
I remember the shooting star from before, sorry.
I think we have a few hours yet until we can rule out updates.
vanessa cave - Feb 13, 2005 5:09 pm (#1707 of 2930)
Alas its 12.09 am valentines day and nothing (unless i've missed something)
Dr Filibuster - Feb 13, 2005 5:32 pm (#1708 of 2930)
Well, although it makes an appearance in two Potter books, St Valentine's Day isn't as big in the UK as it is in the USA.
On trips to America I was astonished to discover cards sold in packs in the States; cards given by small children to all their classmates; OXOXO written everywhere (the Os had to be explained to me....I thought it was OXO, a brand of gravy).
The card shops are trying their best over here, but it's still relatively low key this side of the Atlantic.
There will be more red everywhere (including people) on Red Nose Day 11th March. It's a charity day for Comic Relief which has been supported by JKR and the cast of the movies.
I wonder if there will be any red noses on the Official site?
dizzy lizzy - Feb 14, 2005 12:16 am (#1709 of 2930)
Dr Filibuster; did you mention Red Nose Day on another thread?? It's just interesting that in Australia, Red Nose Day is held a little later on the year and raises money for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) research. In past years I've bought earrings, pens and badges in lieu of the red nose.
PS:I would love to see JKR's site covered in red noses!
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 14, 2005 5:00 am (#1710 of 2930)
Maybe we'll get a Red Nose Treat, noses are, I think, the main physical characteristic of many people in the WW (think DD, Snape, Mad-Eye, Tonks, House elves etc.) Jo must have had great fun picking all those noses!
Catherine - Feb 14, 2005 5:17 am (#1711 of 2930)
Jo must have had great fun picking all those noses! --Aurora Gubbins
Elanor - Feb 14, 2005 10:02 am (#1712 of 2930)
Hello! I've just tried to check JKR's site (.uk and .com addresses) and each time Internet Explorer freezes and I can't access the site or leave the first page either BTW. Does it work for you? Could this mean an update coming? **hoping**
azi - Feb 14, 2005 10:04 am (#1713 of 2930)
Works fine for me Elanor...tis a shame...
Mrdrama - Feb 14, 2005 10:25 am (#1714 of 2930)
Everything loads fine for me also, and I didn't notice that anything anywhere on the site had changed. (sob, sob!)
Elanor - Feb 14, 2005 10:55 am (#1715 of 2930)
Thanks for checking! It must be my computer's fault (it still doesn't work) and I started to hope an update too fast... Sorry!
Dr Filibuster - Feb 14, 2005 3:13 pm (#1716 of 2930)
Lizzy, yes I did. The 1st Red Nose Day was 20 years ago. For 2005 the noses come with Harry Potter lightning scar stickers So, it's a different charity for Aussies then? Interesting what you can learn from this forum.
Maybe JKR won't do anything on her site for Red Nose Day. once she starts doing things like that for a charity it would be difficult to say no to others. Ah well, maybe she will, maybe she won't. Who nose, err I mean, knows what she'll decide?
Gina R Snape - Feb 14, 2005 10:09 pm (#1717 of 2930)
Well, but QttA and FBAWTFT were both done for Comic Relief, which is part of Red Nose Day. So who knows!
riotgrrrl - Feb 15, 2005 12:14 am (#1718 of 2930)
Exactly what I was thinking Gina!
popkin - Feb 15, 2005 1:45 am (#1719 of 2930)
According to Mugglenet, there was a small update to the site on the 14th. It might hint at a new romance for Harry in the HBP. Since there was nothing about the update here in this thread, I never looked at the site, and I missed it. Apparently, so did many others. The update is gone now that the 14th has passed, but, if you want to see the screen capture, here's the one posted on Mugglenet:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
S.E. Jones - Feb 15, 2005 2:21 am (#1720 of 2930)
I think TLC said that was from Bloomsbury's site. They have a countdown calender there:
Bloomsbury.com: Harry Hearts Who?
Here's a bit of Valentines fun news. TLC reader Jim wrote to let us know that Bloomsbury.com has added this countdown calendar for the release of Half-Blood Prince. While this calendar is nice, the thing that caught my eye was that if you put your mouse on today's date, the 14th, and click, a special window pops up. In this window is a picture of a carving in wood with the word 'Harry 'and underneath is a heart shape with an arrow through it. Harry hearts who? Thanks Jim!
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 15, 2005 3:04 am (#1721 of 2930)
Dr Filibuster: check out the links in the library, Jo supports particular charities MS society, Single Parent Families and so on - causes close to her heart. She is also known to give money away anonymously. I think she finds it very easy to say 'No' to those greedy scroungers who just want a piece of her hard work. Check out her interviews on Bloomsbury's website.
Harry 'hearts' who? Don't think it will be Marietta )
lkb - Nov 13, 2004 4:52 pm (#1722 of 2930)
if you set your computer back a day...can we still what you are talking about?
Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 15, 2005 5:49 am (#1723 of 2930)
On the Red Nose Day theme, for Comic Relief two years ago French and Saunders (Dawn French plays the Pink Lady in POA) did a spoof Harry Potter - Harry Potter and the Secret Chamber Pot of Azerbajain. This was done with the blessing of J K Rowling et al. It also had the British Comedian Ronnie Corbet (who is short) playing Hagrid - great touch.
It also had the blessing of Warner Bros as the costumes that people wore were those from the films. The person who played Dumbledore wore the same costume as Richard Harris. The two Comic Relief books (Fabulous Beasts and Where to Find Them, and Quiddich Through The Ages) have or are being re-released. So with the Red Nose packs having lightening scars I think we may see a Harry Potter/Red Nose link up this year. So watch the web site. Is Comic Relief a link from JKR's site?
Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 15, 2005 6:39 am (#1724 of 2930)
I have just been on to JKR's official site. On the room with the locked door the door in the mirror, which was open, is now closed. Is this suggestive of an update about to arrive?
Thora - Feb 15, 2005 7:00 am (#1725 of 2930)
It's open in the mirror for me.
skh - Feb 15, 2005 7:12 am (#1726 of 2930)
Hey Pheilim, the door's still open in Dublin
Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 15, 2005 10:11 am (#1727 of 2930)
It wasn't here in England. It was closed. What is going on? The picture is very different now from earlier. The door was closed and the daffodils were white not yellow!! I am confused.
Sadie - Feb 15, 2005 2:14 pm (#1728 of 2930)
The door is open here too!
Sadie - Feb 15, 2005 2:18 pm (#1729 of 2930)
Also, doesn't the Fan sites page look different? I haven't been looking for a while and it just seems different. were the ribbons always there?
Julia. - Feb 15, 2005 2:19 pm (#1730 of 2930)
Hey!!! How come your door is open and mine's not?! It's 4:18 in the afternoon on the East coast of the US. Is it not open for everyone or something?
EDIT: Cross posted with Sadie. Yeah, the ribbons have always been there.
GryffEndora - Feb 15, 2005 2:40 pm (#1731 of 2930)
Julia, I believe they are talking about the open door in the reflection of the mirror not the door to the RoR itself.
Helen Potterfan - Feb 15, 2005 2:44 pm (#1732 of 2930)
Julia and all, The door to which people are referring is the door in the mirror next to the ROR door, not the ROR door itself. I wouldn't want anyone to panic thinking he/she missed the door opening. I am also on the east coast, and the door in the mirror in that room is open, but the Do Not Disturb sign is still on the ROR door. The door in the mirror is open for me on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and jkrowling.co.uk/en. What site are those of you for whom the door is closed using?
Edit: simultaneous post with GryffEndora!
Julia. - Feb 15, 2005 3:07 pm (#1733 of 2930)
Oh, Phew!!! That door's been open for a few days for me. Thank G-d, I thought I was missing something monumental.
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 15, 2005 3:47 pm (#1734 of 2930)
Are we all going a bit mad with the lack of updates? If we simultaneously lie outside, amongst begonias, listening carefully, does anyone think something might happen?
lkb - Feb 15, 2005 7:50 pm (#1735 of 2930)
I think so...I just wish that when people (like me) pose a question, that that person would not be ignored.
I would not say anything if it happened only once. However, it has happened several times, and I am kind of getting frusterated with it. I would like answers too! Even if the question seems silly, or has already been answered month before last...
sorry...needed to vent...I guess its becuase of the lack of updates! JKR!!! PLEASE HELP US!!!
pottermom34 - Feb 15, 2005 10:11 pm (#1736 of 2930)
I still haven't been able to open the ROR door Peeves keeps knocking the vase over the wrong way, any ideas??
Amilia Smith - Feb 15, 2005 10:47 pm (#1737 of 2930)
Ikb: I don't know if turning your computer clock back a day will show you the "Harry hearts who?" picture, but Mugglenet posted a screen capture of it here. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Is this the question you were referring to? I'm sorry if I missed other questions as well. Usually if I don't know the answer, I don't bother to pipe up. Maybe no one knew the answers to your questions?
Amilia Smith - Feb 16, 2005 12:15 am (#1738 of 2930)
Way too late to edit, but I just discovered that Denise posted an enhanced version of the heart over on 'ship-'ship. You might want to check that out, Ikb, and all of the discussion that follows. Denise P., "'Ship-'Ship (Exploring Relationships)" #473, 15 Feb 2005 7:23 am
Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 16, 2005 2:07 am (#1739 of 2930)
I actually took a screen shot of the page with the door in the mirror being closed and white daffodils, but am sending this from a diferent computer so can't send the picture. But the white dafodils may have been my screen playing up.
skh - Feb 16, 2005 3:20 am (#1740 of 2930)
Sorry lkb - there was a post above your ques from SE Jones about how the heart wasn't on the official JKR website but on the Bloomsbury site (post 1720), apologies for not directing you back to that post.
Lastly, I think setting your clock back wouldn't have worked anyhow, even if it was on the JKR site, as I think if a thing / object / picture is removed, then it's gone for good (unless some kind soul has a screenshot). I think the clock changing only works for the time controlled items - for example, the day / night-time features. To my knowledge, changing the computer clock will not, for example, allow you to see a bithday posting on the rolodex if it has already passed.
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 16, 2005 6:15 am (#1741 of 2930)
I think if you can pop to your local computer store and ask for an online access time-turner, it may work. I don't think they're available everywhere though...
lkb - Feb 16, 2005 5:52 pm (#1742 of 2930)
okay...I am feeling a bit sheepish. Sorry about my ranting. Thank you all for your help. It is good to know about the time sensitive stuff...even though I have never tried to set my clock back, I know now not to!
There would not be a spell per chance that could make you all forget just a single event would there? I certainly would hate to obliverate all of your memories for the sake of my red face...
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 17, 2005 6:39 am (#1743 of 2930)
lkb; red face is taking things a bit far, the red nose will do just fine!
Scooting aroud Jo's site got me wondering, has anyone tried to work out a connection between the Easter Egg clues and their prizes? I found myself wondering why a Remembrall would give me a few drawings and notes on the Sorting Hat, and I know someone worked out the spells (can't remember what they were for) and I wondered what the connection would have been there.
This should keep us going for a few more hours?
Thora - Feb 17, 2005 5:00 pm (#1744 of 2930)
(Speaking of red noses is there any one in England who would be willing to help me get a pack with the lightning bolt scar? Please email if you can.)
I don't think we ever worked out which spells the ingredients made. I spent hours upon chilling hours searching through spider information to find the spider and couldn't find a species for it. I contacted a butterfly expert in the UK and he says the one on the site isn't a species he recognises. Someone said they saw on a tv special that a notebook Jo keeps her HP notes in has a yellow a bule butterfly on it, so we think that's the source. The stones are moon stones, we have yet to figure out the stick/needle things, and I have yet to identify the leaves, though they do look roseish. Oh and the flowers next to the door are Narcisus (as in Malfoy?)
Sorry if I missed anything, I have a huge headache and can't think straight.
riotgrrrl - Feb 17, 2005 7:57 pm (#1745 of 2930)
I was under the impression Aurora wanted to discuss the connection between the clues and what we got for finding them. Does anyone have a list of which prizes were for each item or set of items we found? I'm not sure I remember any post like that. I do remember that when the door opened just before Christmas she specifically said that some of the clues didn't have anything to do with the message- they were just bits of knowledge from the series. Since most of our prizes (I really don't like calling them Easter eggs since not all of us celebrate the holiday) actually come from past books, if there is a connection it shouldn't be too hard to figure out, but then again, it wouldn't give us any new information.
Tomoé - Feb 17, 2005 10:29 pm (#1746 of 2930)
Here's my notes:
MAGIC (tel) -> Very early page of Philosopher's Stone
Awards (fansite) -> Ancient drawings (Page 4) [Gryffindors]
Locked box (links) -> Page of doodlings (Page 2)
Potion (extra) -> First typed manuscript of the Philosopher's Stone
PEEVES (tel) -> Ancient drawings (Page 2) [Peeves]
Potion (rubish) -> Ancient drawings (Page 3) [Nearly-Headless-Nick]
Marble (main) -> Ancient drawings (Page 1) [Dragons]
Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 18, 2005 6:08 am (#1747 of 2930)
Thora, where do you live and I will send you a Red Nose Pack. Do use my email address for privacy.
Also, I think someone said they were quills from something. Will trawl and find out.
John Bumbledore - Feb 18, 2005 9:32 am (#1748 of 2930)
I believe they are Knarl quills as TBE (Pam) stated in a previous post, I got this from their short appearance and similarity with porcupine quills and the description of how to find the Knarl among hedgehogs in the Care of Magical Creatures O.W.L.s, (Book five).
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
P. S. That mention in OotP also states that Knarl quills are very useful in potions because of there magic qualities. (I believe that is a loose paraphrase, but I do not have the book to reference. Sorry.)
moose - Feb 18, 2005 6:41 pm (#1749 of 2930)
J.K. Rowling's Website
Hi! Sorry if this is a little off topic, but i desperately need help on finding one of the "hidden" things on JK Rowling's website. Well the on I need help on is one in the Rubbish Bin area, where you break the pen in half and it tells you what you need to find. I found two of the things, but I can't seem to find those stone shaped things anywhere. Also, how many of those hidden things are there? Including the one in the Rubbish bin area I have five. Are there any more? Thanks.
GryffEndora - Feb 18, 2005 6:46 pm (#1750 of 2930)
the first post on this thread lists all of the "easter eggs" and how to get them. There are seven. The moonstones are on the fan sites page on the top shelf behind the box that looks like it would hold a medallion. Slide the box.
dizzy lizzy - Feb 18, 2005 6:48 pm (#1751 of 2930)
Hit the button at the top of this page that says "To Top" It should take you to Kip's introduction to this thread. Scroll down a little bit and Mare has her introduction to JKR's Website and all the information you would ever want on finding the easter eggs/surprises.
Snuffles - Feb 19, 2005 3:08 am (#1752 of 2930)
Hi, im not sure where to put this so here goes.. Are there any differences in the Childrens and adult version of the books? I think the books i have must be the childrens version but i know you can get both. Sorry if this is the wrong thread, please feel free to move.
Dr Filibuster - Feb 19, 2005 3:26 am (#1753 of 2930)
The only difference is in the cover art.
Snuffles - Feb 19, 2005 7:42 am (#1754 of 2930)
Thanks Dr Filibuster, i shall order HBP now!
Qwaz - Feb 19, 2005 1:42 pm (#1755 of 2930)
MAGIC (tel) -> Very early page of Philosopher's Stone Awards (fansite) -> Ancient drawings (Page 4) [Gryffindors] Locked box (links) -> Page of doodlings (Page 2) Potion (extra) -> First typed manuscript of the Philosopher's Stone
PEEVES (tel) -> Ancient drawings (Page 2) [Peeves] Potion (rubish) -> Ancient drawings (Page 3) [Nearly-Headless-Nick] Marble (main) -> Ancient drawings (Page 1) [Dragons]
Thankyou tomoe for this list.... I noted the other day looking through my scrap book, and again just now reading that list that while anchient drawings starts page 1 and goes through 4, "Page of doodlings" starts at page 2?
Is there a page 1 we've all missed? was there ever and it is now no more?
Katelyn Black - Feb 19, 2005 1:55 pm (#1756 of 2930)
I was wondering that too! Is there a page that I missed? Like page one doodles? Maybe it is the watch? I can never get to it when it glows blue. Has anyone been able to get that?
Tomoé - Feb 19, 2005 2:18 pm (#1757 of 2930)
These four easter eggs are from the first batch (notice the ancient drawing Page 4):
MAGIC (tel) -> Very early page of Philosopher's Stone
Awards (fansite) -> Ancient drawings (Page 4) [Gryffindors]
Locked box (links) -> Page of doodlings (Page 2)
Potion (extra) -> First typed manuscript of the Philosopher's Stone
These three are from the second batch (here comes the ancient drawings 1 to 3)
PEEVES (tel) -> Ancient drawings (Page 2) [Peeves]
Potion (rubish) -> Ancient drawings (Page 3) [Nearly-Headless-Nick]
Marble (main) -> Ancient drawings (Page 1) [Dragons]
Was there a way to get ancient drawings 1 to 3 the first time around? We can only guess ... we may never know ...
Edit: However, I'm sure we'll get the first page of doodlings one day.
riotgrrrl - Feb 19, 2005 3:55 pm (#1758 of 2930)
I've tried to click on the watch when it glows and nothing ever happened.
dizzy lizzy - Feb 19, 2005 3:56 pm (#1759 of 2930)
I don't think anything is supposed to happen with the watch...yet.
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 20, 2005 12:52 pm (#1760 of 2930)
I think most of us thought it represented Dumbledore's watch with the 12 hands.
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 22, 2005 5:12 pm (#1761 of 2930)
Does anyone know how long the FAQ poll has been going? It feels like 8 months! Please Jo, we're getting desperate! (Hope the family are all well!)
azi - Feb 23, 2005 7:29 am (#1762 of 2930)
Too long Aurora...at least from before christmas. This thread is too quiet, we need an update! I need something to distract me from college work!
Albus Silente - Feb 23, 2005 8:09 am (#1763 of 2930)
Edited by S.E. Jones Feb 24, 2005 10:50 pm
I think we all could do with a nice new update... every day the first thing i do is check jkr's site...NOTHING- nothing for days- weeks- months (just hope it won't be years or centuries!)*sighhh*
->Albus Silente, your post was previously in italics because you didn't capitalize your first "i". Please try to use proper capitalization ("I" instead of "i") and punctuation so that all our members can read and understand your posts. Thank you!<- S.E. J
GryffEndora - Feb 23, 2005 4:03 pm (#1764 of 2930)
It's been so long for an update I think I'm finding clues that I've forgotten about. Has the pen always been broken on the Rubbish Bin page? (Not the pen that reveals the recipe but the pen in the upper right area.) I'm sure it's not new but I had to check. CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!! Thanks.
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 23, 2005 4:31 pm (#1765 of 2930)
I've just looked again at the FAQ poll and there doesn't seem to have been a change for absolutely ages. As I recall, the percentages have been 8%, 67% and 25% almost since two weeks after the poll was put up! Jo, if you're reading this; PLEASE can we have something - soon?
T Brightwater - Feb 23, 2005 4:46 pm (#1766 of 2930)
I expect she's got rather a lot to do right at the moment. :-) And even if the baby isn't keeping her up nights, maybe she's got a good jump on Book 7!
Helen Potterfan - Feb 23, 2005 4:47 pm (#1767 of 2930)
GryffEndora, I think that pen has always broken when Peeves comes through. I took it to be a clue to break the pen that reveals the clue. But I certainly understand your hope for anything new! That fraction of a second when the ROR is loading and the sign isn't clear nearly stops my heart every time! I can't believe it's been more than 2 months since the door opened!
Dates of previous openings:
8/16 (7 weeks)
10/31 (10 weeks, 6 days)
12/20 (7 weeks, 1 day)
on 9/16 the door didn't open, but we got a major update with 3 new prizes (easter eggs)
There have been minor updates on 6/02, 6/04, 6/28-29, 7/10, 7/24, 8/15, 12/10, 12/22, 1/31/05
I'm sure I've missed some of the minor updates, but you get the idea. The longest time we've waited for the door to open so far is 10 weeks, 6 days. That would be March 6, so we have survived this long before! But that time we were consoled a month in with new prizes (easter eggs)! To clarify, I did the American month/day date listing (6/28 means the 28th of June).
I don't know if this summary makes anyone else feel better, but I'm sure some other neurotic JKR web site watcher will appreciate it .
Sticky Glue - Feb 23, 2005 5:57 pm (#1768 of 2930)
Hi GryffEndora, I beleive if you look closley when peeves comes through and breaks that pen, some numbers are shown, says Neil ??????? can't remember the numbers but most of them its hard to tell if they are 0 or 8 etc. To my knowleage no one has worked out what they are for, i've tried them in the phone. Maybe it's an easter egg we haven't found, and we won't get any more untill we do? But I don't think JKR would be so mean.
skh - Feb 24, 2005 5:38 am (#1769 of 2930)
Nah, Sticky Glue - I bet if there was something to find, some one, somewhere would have come across it!
Thora - Feb 24, 2005 7:51 am (#1770 of 2930)
I took it as a clue that he breaks the pen too, but someone pointed out that the spill pattern looked a lot like jigsaw puzzle peices.
I think if there was something that those numbers revealed then the site managers would have cleared it up once they realised no one was able to properly read them.
The lack of a "page one" does tend to spread the feeling we are missing something though.
Perhaps we should start typing names and terms into the phone again, it seems everytime we get organised with our explortation she gives us an update.
skh - Feb 24, 2005 10:43 am (#1771 of 2930)
Thora, do you not think that the numbers have been left there as they might be significant in the future? That's what I presumed (I know, presumption is a very dangerous habit, it's true!).
Also, I can't remember the order of the rewards before - I'm sure it's posted here, but I'm off home in a minute as it quarter to six! But my feeling is that they didn't arrive in order anyhow, i.e. the first set of easter eggs gave us pages 5, 3 and 4 (am making up the order randomly here!) and the next set gave us pages 2, 6 and 7 or something like that?
Madam Pince - Feb 24, 2005 12:01 pm (#1772 of 2930)
You're right, Sarah. I don't recall the exact order either, but I know they weren't "in order."
ruthlesspenguin - Feb 25, 2005 5:24 pm (#1773 of 2930)
I remember at the beginning of this thread there was a bit of discussion about Manxmouse, a book by Paul Gallico that appears on the bookcase of the links page and has been mentioned in interviews by JKR as one of her favourites. I recently found and read a copy and thought you might be interested in a summary while we wait for other updates, as I think it is relevant to HP.
The book begins with a ceramist who has spent his life making ceramic mice. The ceramist, however, is not satisfied with his creations and dreams of one day making the perfect mouse. One night he returns home after a long wedding celebration in the local inn with the feeling that tonight he will make his perfect mouse.
The next morning he is very disappointed to find his 'master creation' has the paws of a monkey, rabbit ears, kangaroo legs, no tail and is bright blue. However, despite its failings as a ceramic, there is something about the mouse's expression that makes him decide to keep it.
By some magic the mouse comes to life, and Manxmouse sets off on a series of adventures typical of children's books, which includes meeting a Clutterbumph, a creature that takes the shape of whatever it believes will frighten you the most. However through all his adventures he is being cautioned about Manx Cat, to whom he is supposed to belong.
Eventually Manxmouse decides to confront Manx Cat and journeys to the Isle of Mann. There he finds that a doom has been made that says he is to be entertained and fed by Manx Cat, before being taken off and executed in front of witnesses. The remainder of the doom has been lost, but is known to contain information about how the execution will take place (Manxmouse does not resist, Manx Cat pounces and eats him in a single swallow).
Manxmouse is then led to the execution site, where he finds all his friends from his adventures assembled. However, he decides he does not, in fact, want to be eaten, and decides to fight Manx Cat in spite of the doom. It is then revealled that the remainder of the doom is in the possession of a policeman he met on his travels, which reveals if Manxmouse decides to fight, the doom becomes void, and Manxmouse and Manx Cat can live togethor as friends.
Now in no way do I believe that there is a missing half of the prophecy, which reveals that if Harry decides to forgive Voldemort they can be friends. I do think it is significant that one of JKR's favourite books is so clearly against taking dooms (and prophecies) at face value and assuming them to be true.
Chemyst - Feb 25, 2005 6:24 pm (#1774 of 2930)
I do think it is significant that one of JKR's favourite books is so clearly against taking dooms (and prophecies) at face value and assuming them to be true.
haymoni - Feb 27, 2005 8:03 pm (#1775 of 2930)
ruthless - I think this book is a huge clue - why list it on the website at all?
If you look at the theories posted about the prophesy, many of them are about the actual wording of the prophesy. JKR said in a chat that the prophesy was worded very carefully. I'm sure she isn't following the exact format of this book, but I'm sure it gave her some ideas.
The bit about Manxmouse deciding to fight Manx Cat reminded me of Harry in the graveyard scene - he wasn't going to just let Voldy kill him - he was going to fight back.
I'm quite tired of analyzing her website during these lulls. I don't want to sound ungrateful or unconcerned with her recent family addition, but how hard is it to answer a poll question???
Gina R Snape - Feb 27, 2005 8:45 pm (#1776 of 2930)
I know, haymoni. It's gone beyond teasing to outright neglect of the site. Oh well. I don't expect anything new in the near future, either.
GryffEndora - Feb 27, 2005 8:53 pm (#1777 of 2930)
Back on post 1767, Accio HBP listed the time between posts. Looking at the pattern of 7, 11(almost), 7 weeks between updates I'm hoping for something around March 6th. I'll probably wait an extra week, since we all know how much she likes the number 12, before getting really upset about the wait, but the waiting is getting difficult.
Snuffles - Feb 28, 2005 2:13 am (#1778 of 2930)
Come on guys, lets not be too harsh on poor Jo, she has had a new baby and her family has to come first. Lets not forget Jo didnt have to create her website for us and give us any information on future books and little tidbits.
Ainsley Black - Feb 28, 2005 3:49 am (#1779 of 2930)
Dose anyone know if Jo is particular to Shakespear's Julius Ceasar? If so we should look out for March 4th (might be 5th, been a while since I read the play) the Ides of March!!
Chemyst - Feb 28, 2005 4:07 am (#1780 of 2930)
The Ides are on the 15th day in March. Originally the Calends, Nones and Ides were linked to phases of the moon, but the calendar was later set to specific month divisions. I'm sure you could google (or other search) for "Roman calendar Ides" and come up with a ton of trivia while we are waiting for an update.
Ainsley Black - Feb 28, 2005 9:53 am (#1781 of 2930)
Thanks for the correction hun, so would the 15th March come up in any patterns for updates?
Aurora Gubbins - Feb 28, 2005 11:08 am (#1782 of 2930)
I've kind of given up looking at Jo's site now - I just look for a huge number of posts on this thread, it seems that lately all we can do is get restless and impatient with the lack of news.
Hollywand - Feb 28, 2005 11:25 am (#1783 of 2930)
Aurora, don't despair. We should see an update tonight as it is the end of February. There is sure to be a new Witch of the Month for March.
Cat 7 of 9 - Feb 28, 2005 12:25 pm (#1784 of 2930)
I agree with you Aurora, I use to check every thing on her site every day but when I don't find anything new my heart sinks into my stomach. I hope we won't have to wait too much longer! :¬(
EDIT:- As Hollywand said "There is sure to be a new Witch of the Month for March." That at least is something new ;-)
Gina R Snape - Feb 28, 2005 1:23 pm (#1785 of 2930)
LOL, that's true about the new wizard of the month. Forgot about that.
Well, I'm not angry that she hasn't updated. Just disappointed.
GryffEndora - Feb 28, 2005 2:35 pm (#1786 of 2930)
Thanks for the reminder! The new wizard of the month will help soothe the ache of waiting. (And I could never truly be angry at Jo, or her site, just exhausted of waiting. I will use this opportunity to practice patience.)
Snuffles - Feb 28, 2005 3:12 pm (#1787 of 2930)
Patience is something we are getting quite good at. I keep thinking ive spotted something new on her website then realise its been there forever! P.s Gina, i like your new avatar, how are you making Severus smile? or is it a grimace!
Elanor - Feb 28, 2005 3:22 pm (#1788 of 2930)
Snuffles: "Patience is something we are getting quite good at". Oh yes! We're even about to become experts...
I always love to see the new Witch or Wizard of the month! But, if memory serves, isn't March 1rst Ron's birthday? Or is it on another day in March? If it is, that means that tomorrow we will have a birthday and the new witch/wizard only on Wednesday.
I would love to see an update too! What about March 20th, for the spring equinox, since there was an update for the winter solstice?
Katelyn Black - Feb 28, 2005 5:06 pm (#1789 of 2930)
I know that everyone is waiting for an up date on the web site,but I have a Q does anyone have the list of "Wizard of the Month" from Jo's site? Iam trying to get the entire list from the begining of her site. Thanks if you can help. Kat
TwinklingBlueEyes - Feb 28, 2005 5:56 pm (#1790 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Ron!
Sticky Glue - Feb 28, 2005 5:56 pm (#1791 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Ron is there today 1st March
Gina R Snape - Feb 28, 2005 6:05 pm (#1792 of 2930)
Thanks, Snuffles. But I cannot reveal my secrets.
Happy Birthday, Ron!
Amilia Smith - Feb 28, 2005 7:39 pm (#1793 of 2930)
Kat, and anyone else who is interested: The Lexicon offers a timeline of events for jkrowling.com. It shows who the wizard of the month was for each month, who got the fansite award, when we got what updates, and when the door opened.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Hope that helps!
And a Happy Birthday to Ron.
Elanor - Feb 28, 2005 11:10 pm (#1794 of 2930)
Happy birthday Ron!
On TLC, there is the text going with the new wizard of the month for March, it is:
Mungo Bonham: (1560 - 1659) Famous wizard healer. Founded St. Mungo's Hospital for Magical Maladies and Injuries.
What I find interesting is that, phonetically, "bonham" can be read "bonne âme" in French, that is to say "kind soul" or "good soul" which is great for someone who found an hospital, isn't it?
When he found it is also interesting because it was a time during which a lot of hospitals were created in "the real world", thanks to "good souls" actually. There were general hospitals and a lot of them were named "St Someone Hospital". Well, at least it was the case in France then (and you can trust me on that one!) but I believe it was true in all Europe too. I'll check!
Snuffles - Mar 1, 2005 1:38 am (#1795 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Ron (Hope this means he lives after book 7!!!)
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 1, 2005 4:28 am (#1796 of 2930)
Ooh! 11.23am UK time - The FAQ poll isn't downloading! Maybe we'll find out something really, really good! Or maybe :-( it'll be an anti-climax and Jo will tell us she can't give us an answer to that question yet...
Jo did say Patience is the Key, obviously it's the key to much more than the Room of Requirement.
Birthday felicitations, Ron!
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 1, 2005 6:17 am (#1797 of 2930)
Boo! As usual it was computer problems!
Gina R Snape - Mar 1, 2005 8:17 am (#1798 of 2930)
I wonder if there was any relation between Mungo Bonham and John Bonham.
Thora - Mar 1, 2005 8:21 am (#1799 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Ron!
I for one am very glad to not have missed any excitement over the last week when I wasn't around to participate.
Thanks ruthlesspenguin for posting that, I especially liked the part where you said "which includes meeting a Clutterbumph, a creature that takes the shape of whatever it believes will frighten you the most."
I so enjoy finding out where she has picked up bits of her universe.
Springtime - Mar 1, 2005 10:25 am (#1800 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Ron!!
lilysmom - Mar 1, 2005 12:36 pm (#1801 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Ron!
haymoni - Mar 1, 2005 6:27 pm (#1802 of 2930)
How did Mungo Bonham become "St. Mungo"?
Ponine - Mar 1, 2005 7:58 pm (#1803 of 2930)
Ok, I have been without a computer on and off for almost a month now - am I to understand you correct in that there has been nothing since before Christmas?!?!?
I am confused - what happened - I thought I added this to a conversation about new stuff on Jo's site?
Tomoé - Mar 1, 2005 9:34 pm (#1804 of 2930)
Well, there have been Snape and Arthur's birthdays (January 9th and February 6th), the announcement of Mackenzie's birth (January 25th) and a warning against a false e-book version of HbP.
Ponine - Mar 2, 2005 5:52 am (#1805 of 2930)
I am sorry to say, Tomoè, but I don't really count those... Although it is interesting to note that Snape's b-day is four days after my own... I am thinking about polls and questions and open doors (oh my). I suppose at least I am fortunate in that I did not miss any 'openings'.
T Brightwater - Mar 2, 2005 10:01 am (#1806 of 2930)
I think either Mungo Bonham named the hospital after his name-saint (there is a real St. Mungo), or someone else did it in his honor, rather than that he was canonized. Actually, I'd love to see a calendar of wizard saints!
GryffEndora - Mar 2, 2005 10:35 am (#1807 of 2930)
Ponine, I think there was also some added information on the extra stuff page about owls.
Ponine - Mar 2, 2005 11:44 am (#1808 of 2930)
Thanks GryffEndora - I will have to check out the site again in more detail while I wait.... and wait.... and wait..
Madam Pince - Mar 2, 2005 12:40 pm (#1809 of 2930)
I thought Snape's birthday was January 8th?
wickedweasley - Mar 2, 2005 12:59 pm (#1810 of 2930)
Anyone else having problems using the site, I can load it but seem to have trouble navigating the internal links may be just me though?
Elanor - Mar 2, 2005 1:13 pm (#1811 of 2930)
Hi Wickedweasley! I've just checked and had no problem navigating the site. Unfortunately... **sigh** We need an update, please...
Madam Pince, I've checked and Snape's birthday is January 9th (this is the Lexicon link: Snape) but you maybe saw his birthday on January 8th because of the time difference?
Madam Pince - Mar 2, 2005 1:36 pm (#1812 of 2930)
That could be it. Or perhaps I just wrote it down wrong on my calendar. January 9th it is!
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 3, 2005 12:44 am (#1813 of 2930)
It's a shame we have heard nothing. Well maybe I will get a birthday surprise as I turn 25 tomorrow. That would be a great birthday Gift!
Helen Potterfan - Mar 3, 2005 9:53 am (#1814 of 2930)
Maybe we'll get something on the Ides of March. Is St. Patrick's Day ever mentioned in the books? I can't remember ever seeing it, but there are a lot of pubs! Green butterbeer anyone?!!
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 3, 2005 10:16 am (#1815 of 2930)
Accio; As far as I can remember, the only Irish celebrations we see are the ones at the Quiddich World Cup. I don't think St Patrick, St Andrew, St George or St David are ever mentioned. I don't think they'd be that important in the WW anyway.
The Ides of March would be nice, and appropriate as we see a lot of Latin stuff so the link is there. Also, a few people have menttioned things taking a while to download lately, and if memory serves (and it usually doesn't) that is a sign foretelling changes.
Weeny Owl - Mar 3, 2005 10:47 am (#1816 of 2930)
The site works for me the way it always has. I haven't had problems navigating anywhere.
Tomoé - Mar 3, 2005 10:58 am (#1817 of 2930)
Oh my, I did it again! And it's correctly noted January 9th in my .xls file, my brain is tricking me. ¬_¬
Anyway, nothing big since Christmas, and if I can rely on my sister-in-law (who had a baby on December 23th), I don't think will get anything before the end of march (I hope Jo'll prove me wrong).
StareyedSlytherin - Mar 3, 2005 12:06 pm (#1818 of 2930)
The Ides of March would be nice! I've been waiting for a while now for something to happen.. but still nothing yet.. *sigh*
Cat 7 of 9 - Mar 3, 2005 12:15 pm (#1819 of 2930)
Kerrie-Louise, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! ^_^
Grindylow - Mar 3, 2005 1:27 pm (#1820 of 2930)
It has been quite a while since I posted to this thread. I have been lurking around, reading all interesting tidbits put out here. I would LOVE an update of some sort, and soon as it is driving me crazy! Anyone have a guess as to when we will get the cover art for HPB?
StareyedSlytherin - Mar 3, 2005 1:44 pm (#1821 of 2930)
LOL That's what I've been hoping for in the next update ^_~
Grindylow - Mar 3, 2005 1:49 pm (#1822 of 2930)
That would be GRAND! I am counting down the days until I can get my hands on HBP....cover art would be a major PLUS! I would also love the answer to the POLL QUESTION. Of course, I know I am not the only one... LOL. Jo, if you are reading this....PLEASE GIVE US AN UPDATE OF SOME KIND SOON!!!! WE ARE ALL GOING CRAZY!!!
Tomoé - Mar 3, 2005 1:52 pm (#1823 of 2930)
When did we get the OoP covers?
Grindylow - Mar 3, 2005 1:57 pm (#1824 of 2930)
I didn't start reading these books until OoP was out for a while....I read them all in a matter of a month and wished I had started sooner.
Tomoé - Mar 3, 2005 2:43 pm (#1825 of 2930)
I wasn't a potty before OoP (though I read the four first books in 2002), so I don't know either.
A couple of weeks before the release is what I observe on the non-HP books, but I don't know if it applie to this series.
Madame Pomfrey - Mar 3, 2005 4:30 pm (#1826 of 2930)
I agree with you Tomoe OoP got me hooked and I just know books 6&7 are just going to get better and better.
Grindylow - Mar 3, 2005 4:31 pm (#1827 of 2930)
I will take any sort of update at this point. :::::::::waits patiently:::::::::::::
Helen Potterfan - Mar 3, 2005 6:46 pm (#1828 of 2930)
When I logged onto the forum and saw 13 posts, I thought something must have been updated! Oh well! I guess this many posts in one day about nothing prove how desperate we are for something. I, too started reading the books after OoP was released, so I don't know about the cover art either. The problem for the site would be that Bloomsbury and Scholastic will have different cover art. I would love to see either(OR BOTH!!!!).
Phoenix song - Mar 3, 2005 6:48 pm (#1829 of 2930)
I'm trying to be patient about the lack of updates. It's becoming increasingly more difficult, though. My only consolation is that I'm imagining that Jo is so deeply immersed in writing book 7 that she doesn't dare to stop for an update! Boy, you know that you're obsessed when you're rushing the writing of book 7 even before book 6 is available!
Tomoé - Mar 3, 2005 7:14 pm (#1830 of 2930)
I hope will get both covers in due time.
I don't think Jo is working on book 7 (what will be the title? Will you tell us for next update, Jo?), she have more than enough job just to take care of the baby.
Amilia Smith - Mar 3, 2005 8:17 pm (#1831 of 2930)
Well, Jasper Fforde's new book is coming out in July too (July is going to be such a good month:-)), and he has cover art for both the British and American versions up on his website. So I could see us getting the cover art from both Bloomsbury and Scholastic in the near future.
S.E. Jones - Mar 4, 2005 1:01 am (#1832 of 2930)
Okay, OotP was released 21 June 2003. We got the cover art in mid to late March of that year, and the summary of the book in early April. Does anyone else think that we might be seeing the cover art soon? Maybe for Red Nose Day or as a nifty Easter present? I can't believe I'm saying this, but that would be even better than a chocolate bunny....
Helen Potterfan - Mar 4, 2005 1:59 am (#1833 of 2930)
Amilia, I love Fforde's Thursday Next books! I am eagerly awaiting the Jack Spratt release as well! He also has a fun site (or should I say sites!).
S.E. Jones, at least three months makes sense. They have to have all of that decided by then, because they have to have time to print and distribute all of those copies! I hope you're right and we get them for Easter! By the way, cute avatar!
Ladybug220 - Mar 4, 2005 6:48 am (#1834 of 2930)
I am with you on that Sarah although I am not sure when my HP obsession became equal to my chocolate requirement. And just so y'all know, chocolate is a food group and daily requirement.
Tomoé - Mar 4, 2005 8:01 am (#1835 of 2930)
S.E Jones -> We got the cover art in mid to late March of that year
Cool! I wasn't hoping to see the covers before May, but late March to early April is sure something to look forward. Sure, they have all these copies they have to produce for the D day, they'll need at lease three months.
OliveHornby - Mar 4, 2005 8:21 am (#1836 of 2930)
The cover art drove me crazy for OoP. I kept trying to figure out who Tonks was.
When I finished the book, I looked at the cover art and realized that Sirius was lurking just out of sight.
I wonder what kind of guesses we will be making based on the cover art.
Grindylow - Mar 4, 2005 9:50 am (#1837 of 2930)
I can't wait to guess!!! I wonder if we will see the man she described in one of those PRIZES we have?
Gina R Snape - Mar 4, 2005 10:07 am (#1838 of 2930)
Sarah, I think it's reasonable to consider we'll have the same timeline for HbP that we had for OOtP. With a difference of a couple of weeks for the July release, I feel good that we might see the cover art soon. And boy do I remember the chatter that got generated from seeing the UK and US coverart!!!
Ladybug, don't you know? Chocolate is in 3 of the four major food groups: Sugar, Fat, Salt and Caffiene!
Ladybug220 - Mar 4, 2005 10:51 am (#1839 of 2930)
Oh, see for me Chocolate is its own food group and it has subsets like choc fudge, choc/peanut butter, choc chip cookies, choc ice cream....
And back to the topic, I wonder if Amazon will put an excerpt from the audio cd on it's site again.
djellibabe - Mar 4, 2005 11:18 am (#1840 of 2930)
Sirius Woman refers to the cover art of OOTP. Where is Tonks and Sirius? Are you talking about US or UK editions? Would really like to look, certainly never noticed them on my UK edition.
OliveHornby - Mar 4, 2005 11:43 am (#1841 of 2930)
My Scholastic edition has a blue cover.
On the back, there are three people standing together: a person with short spiky hair and a heart-shaped face; a tired looking wizard with grey streaks, and an older wizard with one large magical-looking eye. That picture drove me crazy because I figured out that the older wizards were probably Lupin and Moody, but I didn't know who the spiky-haired person was when bit of the cover art came out. I think I remember some speculation about who the people were when the cover art was released.
Also on the back cover is Sirius lurking half seen.
EDIT: Mugglenet has the cover art at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
riotgrrrl - Mar 4, 2005 11:44 am (#1842 of 2930)
djellibabe- Tonks, Mad Eye, Lupin and Sirius are on the back of the American edition (I think it's the children's cover).
Edit: posted at same time as Siriuswoman
Denise P. - Mar 4, 2005 11:45 am (#1843 of 2930)
We don't have a seperate children and adult versions of the books in the US. The blue version is the US version.
S.E. Jones - Mar 4, 2005 11:48 am (#1844 of 2930)
They're on the US editions which have cover art done by Mary GrandPre. Moody, Tonks, and Lupin (or it could be Mundungus) are on the back with Sirius just behind them in a doorway.
EDIT: Here's the back cover.
Gina R Snape - Mar 4, 2005 11:52 am (#1845 of 2930)
Ok, this is funny. We've all read the book and we're still debating who is drawn on the back cover! Heeeee.
I think it's Lupin, Tonks and Moody, btw.
djellibabe - Mar 4, 2005 11:57 am (#1846 of 2930)
Thank you all. I don't have a US version so I am going to look at the link now. Cheers!!
Denise P. - Mar 4, 2005 11:57 am (#1847 of 2930)
I agree, Tonks, Lupin and Moody with half hidden Sirius behind the door. I am not sure who is the figure in the doorway, that we see the shadow of...maybe Voldie?
djellibabe - Mar 4, 2005 12:02 pm (#1848 of 2930)
That was marvellous, thank you! I looked and I agree that it is Lupin, Tonks and Moody. I saw Sirius but I had to go back for a second look at the shadowy figure, whom I didn't notice the first time. Harry maybe?
riotgrrrl - Mar 4, 2005 12:04 pm (#1849 of 2930)
I tried looking at different links but couldn't find one that shows the back cover art. Also, for any of you that have the audiobooks, each CD cover has it's own art (some of them are from the chapter heading in the books, I believe) Does anyone know of the american and U.K. version have the same chapter heading art? I would think so but I've yet to see any of the U.K. editions.
djellibabe - Mar 4, 2005 12:18 pm (#1850 of 2930)
The UK versions have no chapter art. Also the link on S.E. Jones' post, (about 5 posts back I think) has the reverse cover from the US edition. That's how I looked.
Grindylow - Mar 4, 2005 1:06 pm (#1851 of 2930)
I agree with everyone else...Tonks, Moody and Lupin with Sirius in the door and Harry being the shadowy figure....
Madam Pince - Mar 4, 2005 1:11 pm (#1852 of 2930)
I'm with Grindylow...
Prefect Marcus - Mar 4, 2005 1:16 pm (#1853 of 2930)
This is truly a fascinating topic, but what does it have to do with JK's official site? I'm confused.
riotgrrrl - Mar 4, 2005 1:25 pm (#1854 of 2930)
We were trying to decide if the next update will give us the cover art for HBP and what we could learn from it.
Madame Kulich - Mar 4, 2005 1:50 pm (#1855 of 2930)
This recent topic of who was pictured on the book cover is fascinating but it disappointed me. When I saw there was 12 new posts, I thought for sure there was an update. I was wrong. But, I enjoyed the topic though. I just wish we didn't have to find something to entertain ourselves. An update is so needed. I don't think we are being inconsiderate or impatient. I think we are just used to getting updates within a certain amount of time and, well, that time has come and gone and come and gone again. Anything would be nice, besides a new witch of the month of course.
The Artful Dodger - Mar 4, 2005 2:02 pm (#1856 of 2930)
I'm confused about that cover. If I'm not blind, it says "Goblet of Fire" on top of it, so how could Tonks be in there?
John Bumbledore - Mar 4, 2005 2:10 pm (#1857 of 2930)
Dodger, at the top of the back cover it says, "Sequel to ... Goblet of Fire." That makes it OotP, but you can click the link above the image for the front cover and see the Title.
I too would like to see the cover art for HBP as an update to Jo's site. On the first of the month I made a capture of Ron's birthday, but somehow forgot to view the wizard of the month. So thank you Haymoni, for asking the question, "How did Mungo Bonham become St. Mungo?" It got me to look at the site again to see where Mungo Bonham was mentioned.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
Edits: I confused Link and like, swapped them really. ** waves at Catherine! **
P. S. Well Jo could certainly post a message that "the cover art will be released on
Catherine - Mar 4, 2005 2:11 pm (#1858 of 2930)
I think people were tallking about the cover for OoP, but perhaps I missed something.
The conversation seem to have strayed from speculation about the release of cover art (and the effect this had back for OoP) to other topics. Such a release teases us in much the same way as JKR's "treats" from her site, so I can see why people would talk about that here, although I'm not sure we'd see that on her site. Probably that would come from Scholastic? I don't remember who released it before.
Marcus is right to say that we should pull this topic around to JKR's official site, so let's try to stay on track.
Even though we are dying for an update, and even though I really would like for the cover art to come out for HBP, and I think that the shadowy figure on the back of OoP is Harry.
GryffEndora - Mar 4, 2005 2:49 pm (#1859 of 2930)
Ok, how about this to try to stay on topic? When JKR's desk top loads, in the lower right hand corner, under the pen that is the link to "links" there is a drawing that looks sort of like a baseball diamond. It seems to represent some kind of cycle to me but I can't figure out what it is. Any thoughts?
lilysmom - Mar 4, 2005 3:07 pm (#1860 of 2930)
I have been looking at that for a couple of days trying to figure out what it is. Unfortunately, I do not have any good guesses as of yet!
Ponine - Mar 4, 2005 3:35 pm (#1861 of 2930)
Ok, here is a question - and please help me out on this one, trivial as it may be - what is that brown thing on the floppy by the coffee mug?!?!?!??!
Phoenix song - Mar 4, 2005 3:38 pm (#1862 of 2930)
Ponine, are you talking about the tannish colored feather that is lying at an angle across the floppy? There are a few unexplained feathers across her desk. I think that's what you're asking about.
Ponine - Mar 4, 2005 3:45 pm (#1863 of 2930)
Ooooh - THAT's what that is....My mind was a tad too mafioso or something, and I 'saw' a finger, and thought that was a bit brutal... Thanks Barb! Lee
Thora - Mar 4, 2005 7:32 pm (#1864 of 2930)
Excellent topic GryffEndora, I went ahead and captured it for our discussion.
It doesn't seem to be the time cycle from the MoM in OotP...
I second the call for a baby picture, but like all Mummies I live for baby pictures.
Grant the Great - Mar 5, 2005 12:41 am (#1865 of 2930)
Man, I saw 33 new posts and thought this could not be fluke enough to be anything but an update. Dang you tangeants! (Actually, I thought it was interesting, but I can still complain!) As for the website . . . uhh . . . I think it's all been said thus far.
Hermy - Mar 5, 2005 6:54 am (#1866 of 2930)
Maybe we will have an update on March 7th when Jo's baby will be 6 weeks old.
Her-melanie - Mar 5, 2005 7:06 am (#1867 of 2930)
I always thought that cycle-thing represented the same symbols from the Hogwarts "shield" thing that shows up elsewhere on the site. You know, representing the 4 Hogwart's houses. It's too blurry for me to tell exactly what the figures are, though. TANTALIZING. [OotP cover art: I laughed after I looked again at the back of my book because I always thought that the other person with Mad-Eye and Lupin was a young boy. I could never think of who it could be, though, and Tonks makes so much more sense!]
GryffEndora - Mar 5, 2005 3:35 pm (#1868 of 2930)
Thanks Thora! The first thing that interests me is the BG at the bottom of the cycle, but I can't figure out that the thing with it is, is it a w, an e or a random symbol to linking B&G. And what does BG stand for? Badger, Bludger, Basilisk, Hmmm Basilisk & Gryffin? But then at the top is the thing that looks like a shuttlecock from badminton and I'm lost again.
Thora - Mar 5, 2005 5:24 pm (#1869 of 2930)
Perhaps the top thing is a crown on a head, or is that being to hopefull?
Gina R Snape - Mar 5, 2005 6:11 pm (#1870 of 2930)
Hmmm. It looks to me (starting from the right) like a croissant, a peanut, a fortune cookie and a root vegetable of some sort. But then, perhaps I just need to eat dinner...
Madame Kulich - Mar 5, 2005 8:52 pm (#1871 of 2930)
LOL! Gina - you made me laugh out loud and scare my daughter! I thought the same thing but didn't write it, but I am so glad you did! I needed the laugh!
Ainsley Black - Mar 6, 2005 6:05 am (#1872 of 2930)
ok so i can't load the site! Could an hour ago but it just wont load now!!
Any one else having problems?
Snuffles - Mar 6, 2005 6:48 am (#1873 of 2930)
Sorry Ainsley mine loaded fine, if anything it loaded quicker than usual.
Gina R Snape - Mar 6, 2005 10:19 am (#1874 of 2930)
bella - Mar 6, 2005 11:07 pm (#1875 of 2930)
Wow, It's been a little while since I have checked the forum and the number of posts certainly threw me off. As for the little cycle thing: perhaps Jo just has a thing for turnips.
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 7, 2005 2:29 am (#1876 of 2930)
Thank you 'Cat 7 of 9' I am now officially 1/4 of a century old! I like so many saw the huge amount of posts since I went away for the weekend and excitedly looked through only to find that once again the lack of things to talk about has created a huge amount of discussion. I hope the next update will be a picture of the baby!
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 7, 2005 4:51 am (#1877 of 2930)
Here's a thought - On 1st April will we see one birthday cake for Fred and George to share, or will we see one for each of them? At their age, it'd better be one each, I reckon!
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 7, 2005 7:22 am (#1878 of 2930)
Won't be though. I still get one for me and my sister to share!
popkin - Mar 7, 2005 11:01 am (#1879 of 2930)
I have always given my twin girls their own birthday cakes - even on their first birthday, but then it was cupcakes. I would also like to see pictures of the baby - maybe a brag book that would also show some photos with the whole family as well.
Gina R Snape - Mar 7, 2005 12:39 pm (#1880 of 2930)
Oh, that would be really sweet. But now that I think about it, she may not want to have pictures of her children up. A lot of celebrities don't have their children photographed to protect their privacy. JKR lives in a small city I believe (Edinburgh, right?) so they will be known in the community there anyway. But she seems to be blessed with a degree of privacy (not constantly in the news or stalked by paparazzi). And I don't think that happens by accident.
Anyway, I hope she had a happy mother's day and I hope the baby and the rest of the family are doing well. And I hope we get an update sooooon!!!!!!!!!!
amy clay - Mar 7, 2005 1:28 pm (#1881 of 2930)
is mother's day in the UK on a different day than in the US?
Gina R Snape - Mar 7, 2005 1:51 pm (#1882 of 2930)
Yes it is, Amy. It was 6 March (yesterday).
GryffEndora - Mar 7, 2005 1:52 pm (#1883 of 2930)
It occurs to me that with Easter coming so early this year that a few new Easter Eggs may just be in the works within the next few weeks. *I hope, I hope, I hope*
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 7, 2005 4:48 pm (#1884 of 2930)
Well, GryffEndora, we all wanted a New Year's treat, a Valentines treat and an Ides of March treat. We wanted an Equinox treat and an Easter treat. We wait, and wait, and wait. As Jo said "Patience is the Key", there's also the saying 'Good things come to those who wait'. They also say Patience is a virtue. I for one am not so virtuous and having re-read the whole set again I'm feeling a bit of a void.
Just for now I'd be happy to have an answer to the poll, that would keep us all busy for a few days until we start nagging for more again!
Hollywand - Mar 7, 2005 6:27 pm (#1885 of 2930)
I don't recall seeing the ad for "Whopper Wear" robes from Madam Malkin, and a search of the thread yields no match. Is this a new ad under the Rumours page? Thanks for your reply.
T Brightwater - Mar 7, 2005 6:33 pm (#1886 of 2930)
That's been there for a while, Hollywand. Hmm, I wonder if this means Hagrid isn't the only half-giant in Britain?
GryffEndora - Mar 7, 2005 6:52 pm (#1887 of 2930)
T Brightwater -That's been there for a while, Hollywand. Hmm, I wonder if this means Hagrid isn't the only half-giant in Britain?
That's so funny. That add has always made me think of Dudley and his knickerbockers, I thought it was saying even wizards get fat. I wasn't even thinking of the Wizarding answer to a Big & Tall store.
Hollywand - Mar 7, 2005 8:01 pm (#1888 of 2930)
Aye, perhaps Dobby will go in for some of those self-ironing robes now that he's a Freebee. Yeouch! ;-)
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 8, 2005 12:48 am (#1889 of 2930)
Patience is a virtue, find it where you can, seldom in a woman and never in a fan!
skh - Mar 8, 2005 3:51 am (#1890 of 2930)
I always kinda assumed the "root veg" was crown on a head - Weasley is our King?
Catherine - Mar 8, 2005 5:13 am (#1891 of 2930)
The Leaky Cauldron is reporting that the cover for HBP will be revealed on the Today show this morning.
If true, woo hoo!
lkb - Mar 8, 2005 5:36 am (#1892 of 2930)
Here we are...I constantly go to the web site to see if there is something new.
I have a nagging feeling that we are missing something... some other egg that we just have not figured out yet.
Katelyn Black - Mar 8, 2005 5:51 am (#1893 of 2930)
Edited by Catherine Mar 8, 2005 5:27 am
Yes! The cover was on the today show and (highlight if you want to know)
it is green with purple lettering. It has Harry and I think Dumbledore (or it could be someone new) looking into a Pensieve.
I added invisible font. I take responsibility for notifying people that the cover was out on this thread, but cover discussion should take place on the HBP thread. Many members do not want to know what is on the cover. Sorry for any confusion! --Catherine
Annika - Mar 8, 2005 6:33 am (#1894 of 2930)
I am surprised that the cover art or at least a "news" story on its announcement on The Today Show isn't on her site. I am of course thrilled to see it regardless.
Grant the Great - Mar 8, 2005 6:50 am (#1895 of 2930)
Edited by Catherine Mar 8, 2005 5:55 am
In case any of you want to see the picture (I'm going to try this), here it is:
OK, so the image didn't work. Just go to BarnesandNoble.com to find it.
Please do not post HBP spoilers on this site. Please discuss HPB art in the HBP thread. Thank you.I took out the image Grant posted as it doesn't go on this thread.-Catherine
Catherine - Mar 8, 2005 7:03 am (#1896 of 2930)
The reason I mentioned here that the cover art was to be announced today is that I thought perhaps we might see a corresponding update on JKR's site, and it was a chance to let members know that we might expect an update there.
Please do not post HBP spoilers on this thread. Please take the discussion to the HBP thread.
Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 8, 2005 8:49 am (#1897 of 2930)
Having just visited JKR's site I am suprised to see no news update. May be it will be updated in a bit. Surely this is important enough to announce, or is it just that we will know about this anyway?
Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 8, 2005 9:33 am (#1898 of 2930)
Further to my previous post I recieved an email alert about the new book covers at 3pm here in the UK from Bloomsbury. So I guess JKR's website will be updated soon to include this news, plus what else?
azi - Mar 8, 2005 10:22 am (#1899 of 2930)
I haven't got an e-mail from Bloomsbury yet. I would have expected the covers to appear on JKR's site first. However, there are so many different covers I think it would be impossible.
Tomoé - Mar 8, 2005 3:25 pm (#1900 of 2930)
Here are the covers from Bloomsbury (for the first time, both children and adult versions will be released on the same day):
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Here's the cover form Scholastic:
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The Scholastic and children Bloomsbury version covers a very much alike, likely a good hint for what will take place in HbP. One of my friend will be happy, she have been complaining about it for years. ^_~
Weeny Owl - Mar 8, 2005 3:41 pm (#1901 of 2930)
JKR doesn't have the covers of the other books on her site, so she might not feel the need to have the cover of HBP on there either.
The covers are newsworthy to us, of course, but since they're on the Scholastic and Bloomsbury sites, she might feel that that is enough of an update wtihout her having to change her site yet.
I hope she'll update soon, though. I'm eagerly looking forward to an answer to the current poll and for her to post another poll.
Catherine - Mar 8, 2005 3:48 pm (#1902 of 2930)
Please do not post HBP covers here. Please take this discussion to the HBP thread.
Now, if JKR decides to include this information on her official site, I won't be repeating this request.
I definitely second Weeny's desire for an official update from JKR. The artwork is wonderful (and thanks to Bloomsbury and Scholastic for giving it to us) but it isn't as "official" as the text itself or JKR's information.
Neville Longbottom - Mar 9, 2005 5:13 pm (#1903 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Remus Lupin.
Tomoé - Mar 9, 2005 5:40 pm (#1904 of 2930)
Oh, great! Happy Birthday Remus Lupin! ^_^
GryffEndora - Mar 9, 2005 5:42 pm (#1905 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Remus!!!
LooneyLuna - Mar 9, 2005 6:37 pm (#1906 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Mooney!
And many more....
Herm oh ninny - Mar 9, 2005 10:22 pm (#1907 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Remus! And may you have Many more! hint hint JKR
Magical Max - Mar 10, 2005 1:06 am (#1908 of 2930)
In honour of Remus Lupin's birthday - we will all observe 1 minute of howling at the moon.
dizzy lizzy - Mar 10, 2005 2:27 am (#1909 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Remus!
Albus Silente - Mar 10, 2005 3:18 am (#1910 of 2930)
Happy Bite- erm- Birthday Remus!
lkb - Mar 10, 2005 6:37 am (#1911 of 2930)
Am I the only one who suddenly has a marble again? or did my broweser reset or something?
lilysmom - Mar 10, 2005 7:38 am (#1912 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Remus!
Springtime - Mar 10, 2005 8:40 am (#1913 of 2930)
no marble here, might be your broweser.
Ihavebothbuttocks - Mar 10, 2005 8:43 am (#1914 of 2930)
I still have mine. Condolences to all who lost their marbles.
Ladybug220 - Mar 10, 2005 9:36 am (#1915 of 2930)
Ihavebothbuttocks, the marble is prize so you may want to lose yours.
T Brightwater - Mar 10, 2005 10:19 am (#1916 of 2930)
Are people who have all their marbles allowed on this Forum? :-)
Steve Newton - Mar 10, 2005 10:41 am (#1917 of 2930)
Indications are, no.
popkin - Mar 10, 2005 11:35 am (#1918 of 2930)
I checked for the marble, and it is not there. However, there are white gum wrapperw with blue writing on them. I remember the green wrappers, but not the white ones. Were they always there?
GryffEndora - Mar 10, 2005 11:39 am (#1919 of 2930)
Went to mark Mooney's birthday on my calendar and found today is the New Moon. Just made me smile.
Popkin - I remember the few white and blue wrappers.
Tomoé - Mar 10, 2005 12:27 pm (#1920 of 2930)
The white and blue wrappers are there on my summer 2004 screenshot.
Sticky Glue - Mar 10, 2005 1:55 pm (#1921 of 2930)
Do you think she might be waiting till easter, to give us some easter eggs? it's only a week or so away, can I wait that long!
T Brightwater - Mar 10, 2005 3:18 pm (#1922 of 2930)
Easter's not till the 27th - don't panic a church musician like that! :-)
S.E. Jones - Mar 10, 2005 4:24 pm (#1923 of 2930)
What do you think the chances are we could be getting something for Red Nose day (that's what it's called right?)? Isn't it tomorrow (March 11)?
Catherine - Mar 10, 2005 4:40 pm (#1924 of 2930)
I've been hoping for it ever since I saw (at Christmas time) the pics of Dan Radcliffe and others in the water tank with red noses on.
Yes, I realize the "Rudolph" connection for the red nose, but still, I hope....
barbara webb - Mar 10, 2005 6:29 pm (#1925 of 2930)
Is anyone having trouble getting the F.A.Q. Poll to come up? Everything else seems to work ok.
Ponine - Mar 10, 2005 6:42 pm (#1926 of 2930)
Barbara - nooo... Unfortunately it looks the same as it seemingly always has...
barbara webb - Mar 10, 2005 7:22 pm (#1927 of 2930)
Thank you , Ponine. My computer allowed me to vote, don't know what the problem is.
Snuffles - Mar 11, 2005 1:21 am (#1928 of 2930)
Ooh havent been able to get on for 2 days, saw 25 posts and presumed an update had happened! Oh well. Happy belated birthday Remus and hope you have many more.
Her-melanie - Mar 11, 2005 6:09 am (#1929 of 2930)
My FAQ poll is loading more slowly than usual...hopefully it's not just my computer. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Accio Sirius - Mar 11, 2005 11:27 am (#1930 of 2930)
S.E. Jones!!! So nice to see you here again!!
I have always had trouble with JKR's site, which I think is just my old computer. However, that has not been reason enough to convince Mr. Accio Sirius that we need a new one. He needs to sort out his priorities!
Mrdrama - Mar 11, 2005 12:38 pm (#1931 of 2930)
Sorry Her-melanie, but mine is loading just fine. (sniff sniff)
Grindylow - Mar 11, 2005 12:42 pm (#1932 of 2930)
I, too, checked the site and all is as it has been for a pretty good while. :*(
Joelle - Mar 11, 2005 1:59 pm (#1933 of 2930)
Hey remember when we were tlking about the circle graph like thing that is on her desk prior to everything loading? Do you think it looks like a diagram of Fawkes when he burns? It was a thoughtto keep us occupied. Also I checked my FAQ's and they load just fine.
Remember that we are practicing our patience. It's a Virtue. (One Harry needed to learn over the summer in OotP).
riotgrrrl - Mar 11, 2005 2:17 pm (#1934 of 2930)
Good call, Joelle!
GryffEndora - Mar 11, 2005 6:26 pm (#1935 of 2930)
Interesting theory Joelle, I'll have to check it out for a while and give it some thought. Thanks for the great idea.
And the site's been loading fine for me too, unfortunately
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 12, 2005 4:53 pm (#1936 of 2930)
I just don't think Jo wants to answer the poll question with the most votes. On the Rumours section she says she wont expand on the theory that the LeStranges were sent to kill Neville because "...it touches too closely on the prophecy and how many people knew about it..." I think eventually we'll get some sort of vague, evasive response, unless it doesn't come until July - with a spoiler warning! I'm still keeping my fingers crossed though...
Thora - Mar 12, 2005 6:12 pm (#1937 of 2930)
I like the thought of it being the pheonix rebirth cycle. So do you think it isn't a BG at the bottom?
riotgrrrl - Mar 13, 2005 12:37 am (#1938 of 2930)
I really don't see that, can you explain?
GryffEndora - Mar 13, 2005 11:44 am (#1939 of 2930)
riotgrrrl - the BG at the bottom is clearer to me on Jo's web page itself than in the screen capture.
Her-melanie - Mar 13, 2005 12:15 pm (#1940 of 2930)
Maybe it's an illustration of the cycle in the belljar in the Department of Mysteries. You know, the egg hatching into a bird, and the bird going back into the egg?
Dumbledore - Mar 13, 2005 12:35 pm (#1941 of 2930)
Um sorry but I'm a bit confused...what exactly are we looking at here?
Thora - Mar 13, 2005 12:48 pm (#1942 of 2930)
This cycle is on Jo's site, the pen lays across it when it is done loading the desk, and we are trying to figure out what cycle it is. The discussion has been going for a while off and on.
Her-melanie- yeah that was my first thought too... but that BG, how would that fit in the time cycle?
Her-melanie - Mar 13, 2005 1:24 pm (#1943 of 2930)
I think it might not really be a "BG," though it does look like it. It also looks like it might be 2 halves of a cracked egg, with the jagged pieces at the bottom and something coming out of it underneath. It's hard to explain! Do you see what I mean?
skh - Mar 14, 2005 3:03 am (#1944 of 2930)
I don't think it looks like an egg at all - I don't see that. Maybe it is food though - a turnip at the top and a mushroom at the side and part of the word BBQ at the bottom?! (I don't think barbecue-ed turnip really goes though, hehe!!)
Any ideas at all on the writing in the middle?
Archangel - Mar 14, 2005 5:53 am (#1945 of 2930)
Edited by Mar 14, 2005 4:53 am
This is probably a stupid question, a result of my tendency to gloss over certain topics and text in JKR's site, but has Nearly-Headless Nick's poem about his decapitation always been in the Extra Stuff section?
skh - Mar 14, 2005 7:41 am (#1946 of 2930)
Yes - it's been there for a good while.
Joelle - Mar 14, 2005 1:11 pm (#1947 of 2930)
No clue. Unfortunately my eyes are not fabulous at reading really fuzzy words. I'll check the next time I visit her site to see if the words are clearer. Though I do think it's possible for the bottom to be an egg. Though the figure to the left of that confuses me.
P.S. Checked the site. Have no further leads on the "fawkes diagram" or circle by the pen. But I did find something interesting on the rubbish page. Harry an(d).... a large.... is dead.... my fath(er) swallow nothing these
It was just something I found interesting.
Archangel - Mar 14, 2005 5:50 pm (#1948 of 2930)
Mrdrama - Mar 14, 2005 10:12 pm (#1949 of 2930)
I have been looking and looking at the diagram by the pen. Finally, I have decided my opinion. I believe it is the birth of a basilisk. On the top, a toad sitting on the egg, then counter-clockwise to the beginning of the birth. On the bottom, the egg has completely cracked and the snakes head is fully exposed, and on the right, the snake has left the shell for good. I am possibly way off, but that is what I think.
Ginerva Potter - Mar 14, 2005 11:21 pm (#1950 of 2930)
Mrdrama - I can totally see it and I think that is an excellent theory! I would never have come up with that. I love this forum!
riotgrrrl - Mar 15, 2005 12:01 am (#1951 of 2930)
My thoughts too. Well done, Mrdrama.
Regan of Gong - Mar 15, 2005 2:28 am (#1952 of 2930)
Has the section in the Rubbish Bin about "Joanie" always been there? It's not much, but I was just wondering...
skh - Mar 15, 2005 2:37 am (#1953 of 2930)
Regan of Gong, again, yes - Joanie story has been there for a while... not since the beginning, but more than a month. It's one of the more recent things posted on the site, but since we've been bemoaning that lack of updates...!!!
Kevin Corbett - Mar 15, 2005 8:43 am (#1954 of 2930)
Edited by Mar 15, 2005 7:50 am
I've been out of touch with the forum for a little, as well as with jkrowling.com, since the school year started up. Anyone notice the Wizard of the Month for March, Mungo Bonham? The thing is, and I don't want this to be interpreted as racist or anything, but it seems pretty weird that a black wizard who lived from 1560 to 1659 should found a hospital in England. It's maybe not impossible---unless, as we have found out on many other occasions, the wizarding world was much more "enlightened" about race and gender than their muggle counterparts in the past. But the fact that he should wear what looks like a Victorian set of robes (had the necktie even been invented then?) is really pushing it. I've long since given up on expecting much historical accuracy in the HP mythos and the various paraphenalia associated with it---but come on.
Ponine - Mar 15, 2005 8:48 am (#1955 of 2930)
Hm. I must admit that I am not enthused by your thoughts, altough I am sure in a pure historical perspective, they make sense. But, as I mentioned to a friend of mine - we are in depth discussing people who can turn themselves into dogs, ghosts, ghouls, centaurs and flying carpets. And then at times we get stuck on - was the necktie really invented at that point? or well, was there really a fullmoon that particular night back in 1992? I dunno.
Kevin Corbett - Mar 15, 2005 8:58 am (#1956 of 2930)
I don't mean to carp on the necktie thing---its just, no matter who he is, he doesn't seem to be dressed anywhere near his time period. I know too that HP is fantasy and can take liberties, but sometimes, like in Quidditch through the Ages and Fantastic Beasts, a little attention to history can make the world a bit richer and more complex from a literary standpoint. I mean, I don't want JK to spend more time fact checking than writing, but its one of those things I like, I guess, and I wish I could have my history and my HP in one sort of sundae-like combination. Oh well.
Oh, and I would just like to iterate that I'm not trying to be racially insensitive here. I'm sorry if anyone interprets it that way.
Tomoé - Mar 15, 2005 10:51 am (#1957 of 2930)
With the Harry Potter's series, the further it goes in the past, the less consistent it becomes. The Famous Wizards Cards are mainly visual cobswallop, the mass witch hunts that forced the foundation of Hogwarts are historical cobswallop, the Quodpot/Quidditch distribution in Americas is anthropological cobswallop, gold and yellow as different colors in crests, is heraldic and archaeological cobswallop (with their dying technique and the lack of constant dying components incomes, such a subtile difference between the two color would be impossible to do, let alone spotting it on the battlefields).
Now, there are lot of historically correct books, but very few are as entertaining as Harry Potter, so I'm willing to give her a break and put aside some of my knowledge as I read the books.
Back to Mungo Bonham, is clothing is pretty much mid-19th century inspired. As for him being black, I don't see historical problems, African wizards had powerful magic of their own, I don't think European wizards had the magical equivalent of guns, so there is no reason for the Europeans to feel superior or for the others not to prove them wrong if the muggle thinking was to contaminate them.
T Brightwater - Mar 15, 2005 12:34 pm (#1958 of 2930)
At least, considering gold and yellow as equivalent, the Hogwarts house crests follow the first rule of heraldry (no color on color or metal on metal). However, I don't think bronze is considered a heraldic color; shouldn't the Ravenclaw eagle be gold also?
The series also includes a 15th-century ghost in Elizabethan clothing, so I guess accuracy in historical details like dress is definitely not Jo's main concern. :-)
Tomoé - Mar 15, 2005 12:41 pm (#1959 of 2930)
You're right T, bronze is not a heraldic metal, either gold or silver would fit better (though Jo could argue that bronze is a wizard only heraldic metal). However, it is archeaologically possible to produce a bronze color easily distinguishable from red, bleu, green, black, yellow and white (likely brown).
Thora - Mar 15, 2005 5:01 pm (#1960 of 2930)
Gasp*, you mean it's not all true!!!!!?
That's it I demand the dental records of her website.
Anything is possible in the HP reality.
Hollywand - Mar 15, 2005 7:11 pm (#1961 of 2930)
Codswallop, the word is codswallop. Which I believe is a major clue in the book. Voldemort's death is codswallop, Hagrid says.
I love Rowling's world and the way she weaves historical bits together for a charming,unique world.
I mean, there's no Gobbledygook, either, strictly speaking, so to speak.
Besides, I've signed up for all these Kwikspell correspondence courses...... ;-)
The Giant Squib.
Hollywand - Mar 15, 2005 7:58 pm (#1962 of 2930)
As part of the clues on the site, we Muggles have had to make potions twice to get our reward......isn't that interesting....maybe the ingredients are clues linked to Book Six. As a reward, we got the early manuscript pages, the trio and company scared, Peeves, Nearly Headless Nick and some dragon information.
The first potion contents were:
green push pins
Erlenmeyer flask. Hmmm
Second potion contents were:
hatched eggs (looked like snake eggs to me by the break)
spiny needle things i couldn't figure out--porcupine quills?
Red/Green marble snake eye portkey---Occlumency?
Tomoé - Mar 15, 2005 10:49 pm (#1963 of 2930)
Codswallop, the word is codswallop. (emphasis's mine)
Ahhh! Dyslexia is creeping in! [°o°] <- This is a lame immitation of The Scream
But sure, it is all codswallop, as it is fiction. It doesn't prevent the Harry Potter series too be the best thing I ever read. ^_~
skh - Mar 16, 2005 5:05 am (#1964 of 2930)
How am I ever gonna spot new clues on the website or work out how to open doors etc., if I can't even spot a spelling error? sigh
PS - if some one wants an historically accurate thriller type read, try Robert Harris. Pompeii is a really rocking read, and about as different an historic / faction thriller from the likes of the Da Vinci Code that is possible to find.
As regards the JKR site and clues - Hollywand, could the eggs be Basilisk eggs? Or dragon eggs?
Chemyst - Mar 16, 2005 6:11 am (#1965 of 2930)
Since we have so much time waiting for updates...
I did a search on necktie history and there is a lot to be said! But I'll keep it brief.
Neckties were an unusual thought as a fashion accessory in China in 221 B.C., the first known existence of fabric wrapping a man's neck. That easily predates Mungo Bonham who was born in 1560. But Croatia is the mother country of the necktie **waves to Lina** where knights were wearing them in the 1630s. The fashion moved to France in 1650. So they were in Europe before Mungo died in 1659. But they did not really catch on in England until King Charles II returned to England in1660, a year later. Also, these early ties were lacy Cravats (Kravata). The one pictured on Mungo on JKRowling's site and worn with a business suit is more of an early-mid 19th century style, as Tomoé has already said.
T Brightwater - Mar 16, 2005 10:46 am (#1966 of 2930)
Actually, if you like _fantasy_ with a strong historical sense, check out _The Armor of Light_ (Elizabethan) by Melissa Scott and Lisa Barnett _Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell_ (Napoleonic wars) by Susanna Clarke, and _The Shadow of the Lion_ and _This Rough Magic_ (Renaissance Venice) by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint, and Dave Freer. (Yes, I know this should be in the Recommended Reading thread, but I'm answering a comment on this thread.)
Thora - Mar 16, 2005 12:09 pm (#1967 of 2930)
Holly wand, Green push pins? They weren't in a potion. The first potion was a blue feather, a flask of red liquid, a grey spider, and some green leaves (possibly rose).
The second potion consists of: Moonstones, Knarl quills (As stated in post 1930), and two egg shells of different sizes but the same brownish pink color.
If you look on the size chart on the "dragon breeding" prize (ancient drawings 1) you will see that the eggs found in the rubbish bin are both to small to be dragon eggs. So your supposition of Basalisk eggs is much more likely, though if there are two slithering around Jo's house I doubt we'll ever get book 7.
They eggs are not (according to fb&wtft): Acromatula-white beach ball sized, Ashwinder-brilliant red, fwooper-brilliant color, occamy-silver
Eggs that are possible (eggs not described or similar to site's eggs): Augurey, Basilisk, chimaera, diricawl (dodo), jobberknoll, runespoor, salamander, sea serpent, golden snidget
Ainsley Black - Mar 16, 2005 2:14 pm (#1968 of 2930)
I just thought the eggs were normal chicken eggs, you know here in the UK our eggs are that colour.
Amilia Smith - Mar 16, 2005 3:10 pm (#1969 of 2930)
But aren't basilisk eggs chicken eggs? The only difference being that they were laid by a rooster and hatched by a toad. :-)
Hollywand - Mar 16, 2005 3:32 pm (#1970 of 2930)
Oh, thanks, Thora, when I wrote the push pins down I knew it wasn't right, but couldn't remember what the actual items were. I haven't memorized every bit of text and quotes like some diligent fans. Thanks for filling that in.
Having said that, I don't think Rowling will follow every single snippet she wrote or said down to the very last p or q; I'm sure she will incorporate new events and details from her experiences into the final texts.
Congratulations to you, Jo for your success and your lovely family. Long may you run!!
Thora - Mar 16, 2005 4:55 pm (#1971 of 2930)
hmmm well fb&wtft doens't mention a rooster, just the toad....
I haven't memorised either, I just keep my resources at hand.
We've discussed the potion ingredients several times before on this and the previous thread, no luck so far on what they make though.
Cat 7 of 9 - Mar 17, 2005 12:31 pm (#1972 of 2930)
Thora, what does fb&wtft mean?
Jo, we all apritiate all you have done for us on your web site, but ... CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN UPDATE! :WINK:
P.S. Sorry for being impatient.
riotgrrrl - Mar 17, 2005 12:34 pm (#1973 of 2930)
It means Fantastic Beasts and where to find them. One of the books done for comic releif.
Joelle - Mar 17, 2005 4:03 pm (#1974 of 2930)
It does mentiont that it is a shellless egg though. and I believe the rooster comes from the mortal enemy bit. -Joelle
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 17, 2005 4:35 pm (#1975 of 2930)
I cannot for the life of me remember where I read it but I'm pretty convinced the feathers were Jobberknoll feathers and I half remember reading something about them and some eggshells being used in a potion but my memory fails after a week of two sick children at home *bangs sleepy head on keyboard* One day I'll read it again and by that time everyone else's lives will have moved on...alas, earwax...
GryffEndora - Mar 17, 2005 7:45 pm (#1976 of 2930)
I'm confused, and I know this is magic, but how can a male rooster lay an egg?
CoS describes a Basilisk as being "... born from a chicken's egg hatched beneath a toad..." My guess would be that a Hen laid that egg.
This reminds me of the riddle "If a rooster lays an egg at the top of a peaked roof (^) which side will it roll down? Answer, neither, rooster's can't lay eggs."
... Sorry to get picky
Hollywand - Mar 17, 2005 8:55 pm (#1977 of 2930)
Many charms and magical historical remedies contain very difficult tasks and obscure items difficult to acquire. A rooster's egg is a fine example, since one would have a very difficult time finding such a rare item.
These kind of "hermetic" secrets shroud magic in mystery, and sort of imply that if your potion or spell isn't working, it's because the maker has not tried hard enough to acquire the magical items, or not timed the potion correctly.......a convoluted reasoning to place the blame of failure on the maker and not the magic.
I hope that made sense. I might add that the US Government has evidently acquired its methodology for figuring Income Taxes from the Goblins, if you ask my opinion.....
pottermom34 - Mar 17, 2005 9:05 pm (#1978 of 2930)
sorry to get picky -- GryffEndora
I don't think it's picky, it's also what is written in FBaWtFT. So it's a WW fact, and there's no mention of a rooster in FB.
Hollywand - Mar 17, 2005 9:11 pm (#1979 of 2930)
The rooster detail comes from the original mythology on hatching the Basilisk. Archangel is a master on these sorts of references, could probably provide a suggested reference. Archangel, are you out there?
TwinklingBlueEyes - Mar 17, 2005 9:35 pm (#1980 of 2930)
CoS describes a Basilisk as being ... born from a chicken's egg hatched beneath a toad..." My guess would be that a Hen laid that egg." I agree. :-)
The rooster reference comes in because a rooster's crow is deadly to a Basilisk. That's why Ginny was killing them, and why Hagrid was waving a dead rooster around in Dumbledore's office. :-)
Hollywand - Mar 17, 2005 9:58 pm (#1981 of 2930)
Thank you Twinkles, very much appreciated.
Ya had me scared there with the "hem hem"....I was thinking about Trevor and Delores sneaks up.....
On Jo's site, we have to make potions and then we get dragon drawings. I am hoping there is a link between the potions and the appearance of dragons. Since one chapter is called "Draco's Detour", I am hoping this means Book Six will have some dragons.
TwinklingBlueEyes - Mar 17, 2005 10:03 pm (#1982 of 2930)
Heaven forbid! We would be double toaded! We really, really need an update!
Edited for weird thought. Could the broody toad that hatched the Basilisk have been Umbridge?
Flutterby - Mar 17, 2005 11:54 pm (#1983 of 2930)
As for where the rooster comes in, it is the crow of the rooster which is deadly to the Basilisk, which is why all of Hagrids roosters were slaughtered.
edit: In my zeal to answer the rooster quandry I neglected to realize Twinkling had already covered it. Late again! Oh well!
Amilia Smith - Mar 18, 2005 12:01 am (#1984 of 2930)
Actually, a rooster is supposed to lay the egg. I promise I did not make that up. There was a discussion about it a month or so ago on the Chambers' Clues thread. Solitaire, "'Chambers' Clues & Book Six" #1334, 18 Feb 2005 10:05 pm
However, if it says nothing about a rooster laying the egg in either FB&WtFT or CoS, then this is probably a point in which Potterverse differs from traditional mythology. Sorry to cause all the confusion.
And Twinkles, love your Umbridge idea. It had me chuckling. Thanks.
TwinklingBlueEyes - Mar 18, 2005 5:23 am (#1985 of 2930)
Alas, that is mythical, not canon. :-)
Thora - Mar 18, 2005 11:44 am (#1986 of 2930)
Jobberknoll Feathers! Thank you Aurora! FB&WTFT lists them as used in truth serums and memory potions, jobberknolls as speckled and tiny (the feather looks to me to be at least 7 cm in length and not very speckled so if must be a tail or primary flight feather), it is the only blue bird mentioned (however the color of the occamy's feathers is not mentioned, any non-canon sources on that folks?)
So Bumbledore if you still have a word document on the site, want to add this for the next time Mare has to restart the thread?
I love progress! Thanks everyone!
Mrs Brisbee - Mar 19, 2005 5:45 am (#1987 of 2930)
Actually, a rooster is supposed to lay the egg. I promise I did not make that up.
I was looking up "cockroach" yesterday in the dictionary and came across "cock's egg". It has been in use since the fourteenth century as a term for a misshapen egg. It is also the root for the word Cockney (which sounds a bit insulting to me).
Perhaps "rooster egg" and "cock's egg" are the same.
TwinklingBlueEyes - Mar 19, 2005 7:55 pm (#1988 of 2930)
Where I grew up rooster and cock were interchangeable, for example if someone said fighting cock you knew they were referring to roosters. But I have yet to see a rooster or a cock lay an egg! :-) Let alone a toad sitting on an egg to hatch it. :-)
Edited: Image of Umbridge sitting on an egg just popped into my head and I created my own SPEW! Is it July yet?
vball man - Mar 20, 2005 9:19 pm (#1989 of 2930)
I think that the wizards have carefully kept such things hidden from our muggle eyes.
Lina - Mar 21, 2005 2:15 pm (#1990 of 2930)
I have to say, I liked your necktie research, Chemyst. I might just add that it were Croatian sailors who were known to wear the Cravats. So: Mungo's parents or his father for example could have been a sailor who sailed to England from several different places like India, Egypt or something in between. We see wizards nowdays not to use electricity, but it doesn't mean that they use to be behind the Muggle world when it comes to fashion. Wizards might have worn 19th century styled neckties much before some Muggle accidentally saw that and liked it.
riotgrrrl - Mar 21, 2005 11:53 pm (#1991 of 2930)
And remember, some wizards are very interested in muggle items, per Arthur Weasley.
Zoe kingson - Mar 22, 2005 12:14 pm (#1992 of 2930)
I'm beginning to think that the website will never be updated again.
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 22, 2005 12:21 pm (#1993 of 2930)
Me too, Zoe. We keep trying to guess when the next update will come. I think the general concensus is that the next possible date is Easter: Easter Eggs?
Mrdrama - Mar 22, 2005 12:40 pm (#1994 of 2930)
We have to be P-A-T-I-E-N-T. According to the dictionary patient means:
"Possessing or demonstrating quiet, uncomplaining endurance under distress or annoyance; long-suffering.
We . . . must . . . try . . . to . . . . endure. Jo, we are trying, really trying. (Takes deep breath. Walks away, twitching.)
MickeyCee3948 - Mar 22, 2005 3:53 pm (#1995 of 2930)
According to JKR "Patience is the key". She will update the site when she wants to and not before. I am willing to give her as much leeway as she wants. I will continue to check her website just like the rest of you. But how many other authors have websites that give their readers half the information we have been provided.
Snuffles - Mar 22, 2005 4:04 pm (#1996 of 2930)
I agree Mickeycee. This is a good test of patience There will be a time (gulp)when we wont be able to ask for more updates. What will we do when book 7 has been released.
popkin - Mar 22, 2005 6:13 pm (#1997 of 2930)
I had thought JKR would update the site well before Easter, as she did at Christmas, so that she would not be diverting people's attention from the Holiday. I think it's too late for that now. Any updates this week would just increase traffic on her official site Easter Sunday.
Tomoé - Mar 22, 2005 11:52 pm (#1998 of 2930)
What will we do when book 7 has been released?
Well, she won't drop dead on the release date, will she? She said in several interviews that she has written a lot in her spare time since the age of 6 and still have notes from her earlier stories. So there will be other novels after Harry Potter, some will be worse, some will be better and we will argue for hours to sort them all. Plus, she'll likely use a pen name, we'll have to hunt her down. Hours and hours of fun.
But before that, we'll have to do our final appreciation of the series, the ultimate analysis of the characters, magical devices, names, comparison with other authors and so on.
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 23, 2005 1:29 am (#1999 of 2930)
Patience might be the key but it doesn't make waiting any easier. I've already re-read all of the books again since Christmas and am listening to them again on tape. If only there was something to distract me from thinking about the release date... like an update on the website! *sigh*
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 23, 2005 5:42 am (#2000 of 2930)
If Patience is the key, is it one of those Muggle-baiting devices used to drive us all to distraction?
pottermom34 - Mar 23, 2005 7:25 am (#2001 of 2930)
We have to be patient and also remember she has a brand new baby (well she's a couple months old now ) and if she were working a normal 40 hr. a week job, she would probably still be on maternity leave. So maybe she considers herself to be on some sort of maternity leave.
Tomoé - Mar 23, 2005 9:09 am (#2002 of 2930)
Why don't you read something else, Kerrie-Louise? That's how I became a potty, I have been waiting for six months for my favorite series to resume serialisation, and then jumped in Harry Potter's bandwagon (but I still keep a eye on my other favorite author).
There's thousands of suggestion by HP fans in the Recommended Reading thread, you should find something for you in the lot.
Little Ginny - Mar 23, 2005 10:13 am (#2003 of 2930)
To second Tomoé's suggestion, I decided that this was exactly the right time to have a thorough re-read of the Lord of the Rings-books, as re-reading HP would only make more impatient.
Still, I could do with a nice little update... just a little bit of information, perhaps, that could be discussed for months... but I agree that life with an infant and two older kids must be somewhat demanding.
Betelgeuse Black - Mar 23, 2005 11:52 am (#2004 of 2930)
Unfortunately, I just finished a re-read of the Lord of the Rings and the Silmarillion. I'll just have to look at the list. :-)
At least we're only one season away (more or less) from HBP!
lkb - Mar 23, 2005 4:41 pm (#2005 of 2930)
have we already discussed the shield looking thing on the extra's page?
vanessa cave - Mar 23, 2005 5:18 pm (#2006 of 2930)
I'm afraid since christmas i have re-read The Hobbit, lord of the rings and the silmarillion as well as most of the discworld books, I'm going back to Harry potter when i've finished Gone with the wind, I'm beginning to crack up waiting for an update i never thought it would be this long.
riotgrrrl - Mar 23, 2005 9:01 pm (#2007 of 2930)
lkb- do you mean the piece of paper just behind the yellow miscellaneous tab? Does anyone have a webshot? The page loads so fast that I can't get a good look at it. I don't remember a conversation about it from before.
MickeyCee3948 - Mar 23, 2005 9:33 pm (#2008 of 2930)
I just got through reading "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy". It was fantastic. Wanted to wish JKR's son David a happy birthday.
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 24, 2005 3:10 am (#2009 of 2930)
"Hitchhikers" sounds like a good idea. I do generally read a lot but seeing as I get through most books in a day I prefer to read a series to keep my interest for longer.
Thanks for the recommendations peeps!
Madame Pomfrey - Mar 24, 2005 6:33 am (#2010 of 2930)
Hello all.Well...Tomorrow is Good Friday and Sunday is Easter here in the States,Is it the same in England? Jo gave us "easter eggs"last year and I dont think she'll forget us this year.I'm wondering if perhaps she is avoiding the poll question because it is a good one that has to be worded just right without giving too much away.
septentrion - Mar 24, 2005 7:07 am (#2011 of 2930)
Easter is the same date all over the world if you're using the Gregorian calendar (used by the Catholic and the Protestant), which is the most used in the world. If you're Orthodox, Easter will be later because the Orthodox use the Julian calendar. I've thought of it too, it'd be nice to have Easter eggs this week-end. With a bit of info to discuss and to speculate on. Thinks I'm hungry for information.
lkb - Mar 24, 2005 7:34 am (#2012 of 2930)
yeah, I can not get a shot of it quick enough before it gets covered up by the pen.
How do you get a shot of it without the pen there? I don't have a clear picture of what it even could be a picture of on the shield...any ideas?
Thora - Mar 24, 2005 11:36 am (#2013 of 2930)
Got it, well the pen is starting to appear but it'll work.
I must change my advatar more than anyone else...
So speculate away folks!
Thora (the master alt+print screen pusher )
Krypt 24 - Mar 24, 2005 12:35 pm (#2014 of 2930)
I'm just waiting for the best "update" one ever really needs, and it will occur on July 16, 2005.
Cat 7 of 9 - Mar 24, 2005 12:59 pm (#2015 of 2930)
Krypt 24, you realy have got this patience thing down to a fine art if you can wait till July for an update,
I I I I I I I I (Bangs head on keyboard, ok that works ... ouch)
can't wait that long!
I need an update!!!
PS Pretty please with sugar on top.
Cat 7 of 9 - Mar 24, 2005 1:31 pm (#2016 of 2930)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY David Rowling-Murray
Winky Woo - Mar 24, 2005 5:07 pm (#2017 of 2930)
Its now officially Good Friday in the UK....will we see something...and nothing! May be Jo will make us wait until Easter Sunday...
Grant the Great - Mar 24, 2005 5:18 pm (#2018 of 2930)
Is March 24 David Rowling's Birthday? That's my birthday, too (today)! Awesome! I wish David were old enough to ask for an update for his birthday. What about Jessica? When is her birthday?
Ladybug220 - Mar 24, 2005 5:55 pm (#2019 of 2930)
Actually, I think that David's birthday was yesterday, March 23
karlii - Mar 24, 2005 6:39 pm (#2020 of 2930)
I thought of this while I was posting on the "good old aunt petunia" list. ...
If only all the canon was online, with a google search engine. what fun we could have then! :-)
I too, worry what will all these people do, whose livlihood is derived from the whole HP world, when this hoopla starts to die out? Oh, it is a long time in coming.. but I wonder nonetheless.
JK (hubby just asked if that stands for Just Kidding) ;-) ought to keep a couple things in consideration though. Waiting too long to update the site could cause some slight PR damage. Honestly, it isn't going to change anyone's mind about buying the book, unless it is to encourage more people to actually go get one. But it would be a bad thing, to alienate folk. There are those who will never give up, etc. But really, this is getting old.
I thought the site was one of those.. "in the nick of time" sort of PR tools, that hyped it all up, when the hype was dying down. But if she(or her agents, for that matter) wants to keep the hype flying.. they ought to take a look at how her adoring public is viewing the lapse.
Even if all she did was sort of blog her daily experiences or a weekly update about the fam.. everyone would be cool with that. Most would be. It doesn't have to be personal.. it doesn't have to be a cool new easter egg (although I hope it would be).. but just to stick her head in and say "sorry, can't chat, too busy with the poopy diapers".. we would all get that, and feel more appreciated.
I think that is the crux of it, we feel ignored and unappreciated.
anyhow.. HP online, complete with google. *bliss* ;-) karlii
GryffEndora - Mar 24, 2005 7:06 pm (#2021 of 2930)
The shield reminds me of the Hogwarts crest with the 4 house symbols but the symbols on the screen capture don't really look like Lion, Badger, Serpent, Eagle. What do the rest of you think?
Thora - Mar 24, 2005 7:32 pm (#2022 of 2930)
Happy Birthday David and Grant too!
T Brightwater - Mar 24, 2005 7:41 pm (#2023 of 2930)
Hey, Jo has a lot on her plate. I'm sure she appreciates us, but I'm also sure she has a lot of other things to do with her time, including writing book 7. It's terrific of her to have such a fun website, not to mention writing these books that we all love so much. A little patience on our part is surely not too much to ask. :-)
Chemyst - Mar 24, 2005 8:07 pm (#2024 of 2930)
Waiting too long to update the site could cause some slight PR damage. -karlii
...just slight??? Actually, if you lump all the media and press releases together, you have to admit that the book covers were a pretty big update. Although, I am surprised that the new cover art didn't show up somewhere on her site at about the same time the publishers made it public.
Ginerva Potter - Mar 24, 2005 10:38 pm (#2025 of 2930)
I think that the crest looks like a bison or cow on the top left. Then a crystal ball on the top right. I'm going to wait for Peeves to go by and see if I can't get a better picture for the bottom, because I can't tell what the bottom picture is.
lkb - Mar 25, 2005 7:04 am (#2026 of 2930)
Thora you are awsome! Thanks for screen catching that one!
I think the top left kind of looks like a book, and the right like a light bulb. (yes I realize that is more than likely not right, muggle artifact and all... ) the cystal ball idea is a good one now that I look at it...
Her-melanie - Mar 25, 2005 8:26 am (#2027 of 2930)
I don't feel neglected or unappreciated. Just desperate! I think Jo is allowed some time with her newborn. With all the begging and pleading and (some of us) complaining that goes on with her fans, maybe Jo is feeling a little underappreciated. After all, she has been very "on-the-ball" lately. I must say, it's almost April, and July is looking alot closer.
GryffEndora - Mar 25, 2005 9:58 am (#2028 of 2930)
Well said, Her-melanie. As many others have mentioned I have found that finding something else to read has made me less desperate for an update. I also feel that the book covers, while not released by JKR her self, have been wonderful pieces of new information and they are also most likely helping me to feel less anxious. I hope Jo takes as long as she needs for her maternity break. She knows we're here and she won't abandon us, but her flesh and blood family must come first.
Back to the crest, after comparing it to the Lexicon home page, I have decided that it looks like the crest for the Fan-site award.
Helen Potterfan - Mar 25, 2005 10:46 am (#2029 of 2930)
GryffEndora, I think you're right. She just switched the sun and heart symbols.
I, too, am running out of patience. I'm still hoping we will get an update this weekend.
If the crest is from the web site, it means that JKR has spent time designing the details of the web site, which mollifies my impatience a bit!
Herm oh ninny - Mar 25, 2005 11:02 am (#2030 of 2930)
Hello Everyone! I just have a quick question. How do you get smileys and stuff to appear on your posts? I keep tryng to change my font and add smileys but I can't figure out how to do it.
GryffEndora - Mar 25, 2005 11:15 am (#2031 of 2930)
Herm oh ninny, I believe that is a question for the How do you .......? thread. If you use the search function at the top of the page in the teal bar you may find the answers you seek.
Cat 7 of 9 - Mar 25, 2005 11:52 am (#2032 of 2930)
Herm oh ninny, :*smile: remove the * and you get this
Also you may want to visit "How do you" as suggested by GryffEndora, I did its great.
The Willow Tree - Mar 25, 2005 1:38 pm (#2033 of 2930)
If you want an update sing a song, If you want an update sing a song If you want an update, want an update if you want an update sing a song.
I'm getting really impatient, can you tell I'm getting really impatient, can you tell I'm getting really impatient, getting really impatient I'm getting really impatient can you tell.
Sorry about that people. Don't listen to me.
Herm oh ninny - Mar 25, 2005 1:53 pm (#2034 of 2930)
Thanks soo much guys!!
Herm oh ninny - Mar 25, 2005 2:02 pm (#2035 of 2930)
This will give me something to do while waiting for an update! ........ok, I'm done now. Is there an update yet!!
remiden - Mar 25, 2005 4:34 pm (#2036 of 2930)
While I agree that Rowling has "alot on her plate", I have to think that having "alot in the bank" makes the "alot on the plate" thing alot easier for her than the normal person. I think she has done an incredible thing with her website, much more than any other author that I can think of, but still, she does not up date it herself, just sends a small amount of info to the company that does it for her. Personally, I think that anyone who makes their living depending on the mass population owes the people who bought their books something. Rowling has in my eyes come the closest to fulfilling that debt.
But here, if you absolutely have to have something to keep you preoccupied for the next 4 months, here you go.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
These are the two hardest online riddles I know of, but be warned, they are addictive and you will most likely get just as frustrated with them as you are with waiting on an update.
Aqualu Nifey - Mar 25, 2005 6:01 pm (#2037 of 2930)
Hi, everyone, this is my first ever post =D
I get the impression that she's going to answer the FAQ question soon. The percentages add to over 100, which is what happened just before the last time. *crosses fingers* Please answer it soon!!!
remiden - Mar 25, 2005 7:13 pm (#2038 of 2930)
It has been over 100% for a while now.
Tomoé - Mar 25, 2005 9:02 pm (#2039 of 2930)
It's because two of the numbers are .5 so they are both rounded up to the the next number.
(i.e., there are 7.5 + 68 + 24.5, but 7.5 and 24.5 are rounded up to 8 and 25)
Aqualu Nifey - Mar 25, 2005 10:46 pm (#2040 of 2930)
OK, well that makes me look foolish. *blushes*
Didn't see the decimal point.
Tomoé - Mar 25, 2005 11:42 pm (#2041 of 2930)
Oh, it's just a theory of mine, there's no evidence that it is the case. That paradoxe sometimes happends with rounded up percentages, so I just supposed it's the case with this pool.
There's no need to blush, really. (Tomoe's blushing herself, because she should know better than to type a one line answer that brings only confusion -_- )
Sticky Glue - Mar 26, 2005 5:33 am (#2042 of 2930)
Well it's after midnight here in NZ. So it's easter sunday, i've just checked Jo's web site, but no easter eggs or updates yet! I suppose I will need to check again uk time, but does anyone know how many hours NZ is ahead of the uk, I think it's about 12 hours? Oh well i'll go to bed soon and check about lunch time here.
Hermy - Mar 26, 2005 5:47 am (#2043 of 2930)
I loved your following idea: If only all the canon was online, with a google search engine. what fun we could have then! :-)
They have PDA versions of the bible. Everytime I see someone at church search to find a scripture I start thinking if they only had that for Harry Potter. It would sure help me post things on the this forum. It seems I can never find the right passage or book when needed. Also a PDA version would hold up a lot better. My books are in really bad shape. Sections of POA, and GF completely fall out of the books.
Oh well - trying to be patient for an update
wickedweasley - Mar 26, 2005 8:03 am (#2044 of 2930)
Edited by Mar 26, 2005 7:04 am
I have to say as entertaining as an update would be I am surprised by some of the attitudes of some posters recently. JK Rowling was good enough to ensure the book was at the publishers prior to her new arrival. Most women take 6 months to a year as maternity leave and are legally entitled to do so. Yet some people are starting to sound openly critical of her for not updating her website. If I were her reading this after yet another sleepless night, well I can't type what I would think s children read these boards.
Jo does not owe us anything, and deserves to take some well earned family time. We do not but these books to put money in her pockets, but because we love the world she has created as long as she continues to deliver the promised seven books she has not let us down.
Don't get me wrong I too would love an update but would happily wait for the book release if it meant someone who has given me so many hours of pleasure gets to dedicate the next couple of months to the new addition to her family.
Tomoé - Mar 26, 2005 9:06 am (#2045 of 2930)
wickedweasley -> If I were her reading this after yet another sleepless night, well I can't type what I would think s children read these boards.
I'd say "spoiled kids, let's them wait a bit longer. (evil grin)"
Anyway, she did say it's her family first, Harry second and everything else takes the remaning bites. We are part of the third category even if linked to the second.
wickedweasley - Mar 26, 2005 9:13 am (#2046 of 2930)
I just think we forget sometimes that as important as Harry is to her he will never come before her family. Didn't mean to get all heavy. Perhaps having a two year old means I recall where she is now and some will never understand how that can be.
Tomoé - Mar 26, 2005 11:58 am (#2047 of 2930)
I didn't think you were all heavy, and I wasn't sarcastic or bitter when I said we are in the third category. I believe Jo's choices are healthy ones and I definitely don't want her to get no live beside Harry Potter.
I would be happy to get an update, but my happiness doesn't depend on jkrowling.com's updates, I can wait until July with no update at all.
MickeyCee3948 - Mar 26, 2005 4:34 pm (#2048 of 2930)
Well said wickedweasley and Tomoe. I agree totally.
Sticky Glue - Mar 26, 2005 5:09 pm (#2049 of 2930)
Well i'm fairly sure that it must be aftter midnight in the uk, but the easter bunny hasn't been yet.
although this post says that it's only 4pm on saturday, but it's the middle of the day of sunday the 27th here in NZ, so we must be closer to 21 hours ahead not the 12 hours I thought?
dizzy lizzy - Mar 26, 2005 6:13 pm (#2050 of 2930)
Sticky Glue: I'm from Australia and I initially had trouble (and still do) on keeping track of the time zones for the server (in San Francisco) and other lexiconers.
If you go to post #983 on the questions for the hosts thread and follow the link that Kip put there it will bring you to a site that solves all my problems.
The best way around your time zones query is to go to the world clock meeting planner and use the advanced option. This allows you to put in a broad range of cities (including your own) and they are all referenced to UTC/GMT.
Hope I have bee able to help you.
PS don't forget daylight saving.
Elanor - Mar 26, 2005 11:11 pm (#2051 of 2930)
It is Easter morning in Europe now, about 8 a.m. in France, so about 7 a.m. in the UK and there is nothing new for me on the site for now, maybe later? (I can't help but hope).
I wish Jo and her family, and you all, a very happy Easter!
wickedweasley - Mar 27, 2005 1:20 am (#2052 of 2930)
If I recall correctly big updates ususally happen around midday UK time. I am sure someone will correct me if this is incorrect.
Chemyst - Mar 27, 2005 6:24 am (#2053 of 2930)
I'm not surprised there were no Easter updates. There were none directly on Christmas either so that people would spend time with their families, not the Internet. And I think JKR is probably trying to avoid any controversy or appearance of religious endorsement. All the holidays celebrated in the books are generic-British (for instance, using Christmas trees but no manger scenes or creche displays.)
So, how widely celebrated is April Fools Day? I found this on a search:
In England, tricks can be played only in the morning. If a trick is played on you, you are a "noodle". Widespread observance in England began in the 18th century.
In Scotland, April Fools Day is 48 hours long and you are called an "April Gowk", which is another name for a cuckoo bird. In Scotland, April Fools Day is 48 hours long. The second day is called Taily Day and is dedicated to pranks involving the buttocks. Taily Day's gift to posterior posterity is the still-hilarious "Kick Me" sign.
azi - Mar 27, 2005 6:37 am (#2054 of 2930)
Hmmm, well I've never heard of anyone being called a 'noodle' if a trick is played on you. But it is true you can only try to fool someone in the morning. If you pull a trick after midday you are a fool yourself.
Winky Woo - Mar 27, 2005 6:48 am (#2055 of 2930)
April fool is dead and gone, you're the fool for carrying on.
I've never come across the term noodle either. Say this rhyme when someone pulls a trick after mid-day in England...
septentrion - Mar 27, 2005 8:28 am (#2056 of 2930)
April fool's day is celebrated (king of speaking) in France too. That'd be a nice date for an update. Maybe Jo will let some "poissons d'avril" (April fishes = tricks) on her website !
The giant squid - Mar 27, 2005 10:03 am (#2057 of 2930)
Sticky Glue: A quick way to tell the time in the UK is to add 8 hours to the Forum time (which is based in the Pacific time zone). Of course you'd have to log onto the Forum to do that, but it's not like that's too much of a bother, is it? Or, if you've already figured out the time difference between yourself and the Forum juat add another 8 and you're good to go.
Cat 7 of 9 - Mar 27, 2005 12:04 pm (#2058 of 2930)
Sticky Glue, I think you may have to add nine hour to the forum time in order to get the UK time ... it's now 20:04 (approx)
EDIT The UK is in BST (British Summer Time)
Can anyone remember when the last update was?
Thora - Mar 27, 2005 1:11 pm (#2059 of 2930)
That would be Jan 31st, e-book scam, right?
Krypt 24 - Mar 27, 2005 2:04 pm (#2060 of 2930)
LOVE the new green, misty cover art! Now THAT'S an update. Jo's site will soon follow with some great tidbits, rest assured. Patience is a wonderful virtue...
Gina R Snape - Mar 27, 2005 3:23 pm (#2061 of 2930)
Thora, if you are correct then we might be due tomorrow according to the '7 weeks and 7 days' theory. Or was it 8 weeks and 8 days? I forget!
Penny Lane. - Mar 27, 2005 4:26 pm (#2062 of 2930)
Why is it 7 Weeks and 7 days, instead of 8 weeks? And what theory?
Amilia Smith - Mar 27, 2005 7:33 pm (#2063 of 2930)
I think it is 7 weeks and 7 days because 7 is a more Potter relevant number than 8. Tomoe came up with the theory to explain when the door would open. Here is a link to her original post on the old thread. Tomoé, "JK Rowling Official Site (15 May 2004 - 9 Nov 2004)" #1548, 7 Sep 2004 2:02 pm
It really was a remarkably accurate theory, until holiday updates spoiled the pattern.
Edit: Tomoe, please correct me if I have misrepresented you.
remiden - Mar 27, 2005 9:15 pm (#2064 of 2930)
Books are simply a retail outlet of sorts. The better quality, the more customers; the more customers, the more money. Everything is owed to the consumer buying the product. The happier the consumer, the more they will buy. Lets face it, JKR has made you happy enough about her product that if she would suddenly decide to make a members section of her website and charge 30 dollars a month, half of you would jump on board. Any and every author owes their success to the consumers who buy thier products. If noone had bought the first Harry Potter book, then she would not be about to start book 7 right now, nor would she be living in the nice house she has or driving the vehicle she drives. I am not being critical, just pointing out simple facts and not letting the fact that I am a HP and Rowling fan cloud my brain and give me a she-can-do-no-wrong type attitude. In fact I applauded her work on her website in my recent post. But if you look at how much money successful authors make and compare them to others in their type of profession, like actors, athletes, ect, you get the least amount of public interaction from authors than anyone. This certainly is not true about every author, and not true about every athlete, but in a broader sense. As I said before, I think she has done a very good job of reaching out to her fans, more than any other writer I can think of.
And don't be silly, talking about Jo having sleepless nights. I am sure that her live-in nanny is having sleepless nights, but she most certainly is not.
S.E. Jones - Mar 27, 2005 10:01 pm (#2065 of 2930)
Not all those who are rich give up the duties of parenting, not all those who are less well off take up the duties of parenting. Let's not start being critical of anyone we don't know first hand. She has indeed given us all hours of joy with her well written words, and for that, if for no other reason, she deserves some respect from us, be we many or few. Please refrain from critical comments about Ms. Rowling, or fellow members, in the future. Thank you.
djellibabe - Mar 28, 2005 12:13 am (#2066 of 2930)
Edited by S.E. Jones Mar 28, 2005 12:00 am
Remiden - before all hell breaks loose because of your comments, lets consider some facts. This thread is to discuss updates to the JK Rowling web site. True there have been none of late, so we are all feeling a little neglected, but JK was kind enough to offer more of her world than most authors and for that we should be grateful. I eagerly await the latest installment with baited breath but if you are struggling with this I suggest you find something else to do. Go outside perhaps or count your socks. I find it very disturbing to have to read the assumptions about nannies and earnings and it is rather insulting. JK earns her money well and may spend it as she sees fit, and if she chooses to spend her time with her family rather than sat at her pc then good luck to her. Site tight, the updates will come!!
->Edited to maintain a civil discussion. Please change the topic.<- S.E. Jones
S.E. Jones - Mar 28, 2005 12:56 am (#2067 of 2930)
No more replies are needed, please. Thank you. So, change of topic:
I know we'll at least get one treat for April Fool's Day - getting to wish Fred and George a happy and humorous birthday!
I wonder if she would go as far as to put "Gred and Forge" instead in honor of the twins....
Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 28, 2005 5:15 am (#2068 of 2930)
Updates on April 1st? if so most will be making fun of us for being so desperate, but amongst the mud will be a nugget of gold (I hope).
popkin - Mar 28, 2005 7:46 am (#2069 of 2930)
Edited by Mar 28, 2005 6:48 am
In our region of the United States (central Illinois) April Fools day is celebrated for the entire day of April 1. Pranks are generally not that elaborate (lilke wadded paper in the toe of a shoe, or "Oh my gosh, look at THAT" and there's nothing there). Many teachers play tricks on their students - like pop quizes on material which has not yet been covered. Our kids usually try something on their Dad when he gets home from work, but it's always Dad who fools the kids best. Sometimes I'll prepare an April Fool's dinner - one food disguised as another, like icecream with caramel topping scooped to look like mashed potatoes and gravy.
Little Ginny - Mar 28, 2005 7:50 am (#2070 of 2930)
My friend and I have been plaaning something really big for April's fool the last two years (like convincing everybody one of us got married), but unfortunately, something always happened (last year, it was chicken pox) which prevented us from pulling the trick. But apart from that, there's not that much on April 1st on Germany, except that most newspapers always have one false bit of news in them. I don't think JKR will do something like that, though. It'd be too unfair.
Hollywand - Mar 28, 2005 8:11 am (#2071 of 2930)
Remember the "big blue candy" at Christmas at the last door of the "Advent Calender"? That was a bit of a wild goose chase...... very amusing. Beware of misspelled words on the site, I say. ;-)
KWeldon - Mar 28, 2005 9:56 am (#2072 of 2930)
Other than the twins' birthday, I hope she doesn't give us any information on April 1. Otherwise, we would spend eternity debating whether or not it was actually true. There's only so much frustration this HP fan can take!
Now, on April 2, however,...
Enjoy the break, JKR! It is well deserved. Some of us can rejuvenate our Star Wars obsessions in the interim to make the time go by faster for July 16...
bella - Mar 28, 2005 11:39 pm (#2073 of 2930)
Did we ever figure out what the blue candy was? Hacker or just some weird glitch? Definitely could do without another one of those, it was just silliness. As for the updates, they will come when they come. The amount of extras we've gotten already have all been pretty cool. And gracious I might add. Just have to wait patiently. ....is there an update yet? .....how about now? No?ah well, have to check back again tomorrow.
Kerrie-Louise - Mar 29, 2005 12:26 am (#2074 of 2930)
I don't know guys, I log on this morning after biting my nails all weekend wondering if I've missed an important update, I see 65 new messages and think to myself "Must read and find out what's happened" only to discover you've all been obsessed with April Fools day!
smile* Well if it keeps us occupied I don't mind, although I was a little disappointed to find no update over Easter!
Phelim Mcintyre - Mar 29, 2005 12:40 am (#2075 of 2930)
There would of course be an update the following week to tell us the truth, so we could groan at ourselves....
The giant squid - Mar 29, 2005 1:25 am (#2076 of 2930)
I'm torn...while I'd really like to see some new stuff on the website, as has been pointed out we've gotten a lot more info in the last year than you'll get from pretty much any other author (even the ones with personal websites). Heck, Spider Robinson (one of my other favorite writers) updates his site maybe once every nine months or so...
Katelyn Black - Mar 29, 2005 6:43 am (#2077 of 2930)
Hey! Has anyone gone Jo's site today? Because, Iam having a hard time getting on all I get is a red square that says JK Rowling site.Has that happen to anyone?
amy clay - Mar 29, 2005 6:57 am (#2078 of 2930)
got in just fine, sorry =(
Thora - Mar 29, 2005 7:06 am (#2079 of 2930)
Got on fine too.
skh - Mar 29, 2005 8:20 am (#2080 of 2930)
An April Fool update would be very funny! Is it BMW who play a trick in the newspapers every year? In Ireland, April Fool's Day also ends at midday.
Actually, debating the veracity of an update dated April 1 would be great, as we'd be ages discussing it and the whole "no smoke without fire" options etc. and that would keep us going for another couple of weeks!
Little Ginny - Mar 29, 2005 11:45 am (#2081 of 2930)
No, it's the newspapers themselves who make up a story. Like, they write a long article on special taxes the government plans for- I don't know, let's say goldfish, or the local newspapers write about a big plan to build a new railway station in the city, and the next day they have another article saying there never was a goldfish tax after all.
Miriam Huber - Mar 29, 2005 12:19 pm (#2082 of 2930)
Well, obviously I have something of Molly Weasley...
Nobody of you is WORRIED because of the lack of updates? Not even a word about the book covers, and the poll really starts to smell, as old as it is!
I really feared (but I am a little reassured now because none of you does) that something with mother or child might not be as it should be... I sincerely hope I am completely wrong!
Mrdrama - Mar 29, 2005 1:00 pm (#2083 of 2930)
I suppose I have been in denial that there is the possibility of something not right in our favorite author's home. I too hope that we are wrong, I would expect that we would hear of something from some news source.
We hope all is well Jo!
Aurora Gubbins - Mar 29, 2005 1:39 pm (#2084 of 2930)
Miriam and Mrdrama; I too had worried about that, didn't want to be the first to raise it though. If anything was truly, truly bad I'm sure we would have heard. I'm hoping she's just feeling a bit shattered (isn't she supposed to be reviewing the editor's edits or something?) and will get around to us when she can.
We know that Fred and George will have a nice cake (or two?) and maybe we'll get news that the Pillar of Storge is real after all and is crucial in the final paragraph of the final chapter of the final book.
(The best one I heard about was dehydrated water tablets for people who go caravanning)
Keep well Jo and Family xxx
Ponine - Mar 29, 2005 2:24 pm (#2085 of 2930)
Oh NO, Miriam!! I have been so self-absorbed and busy discussing characters and waiting for an update that it never danwed on me a minute to actually consider that Jo may actually have more serious concerns... ***blushes with embarrassment and shame*** Well, between all of us, I think we cover about every religion and spiritual inclination, so Jo and her family should be in the best hands if we all pull together... All my best to Jo and her family!
Ponine, who has just been reminded of what really matters.
John Bumbledore - Mar 29, 2005 3:34 pm (#2086 of 2930)
How about a game of hide and seek...
My avatar was stolen from Jo's site, where can you find it?
General "page" name and location would be enough. I'm guessing I've started to easy for this group...
Desk top, lower right under pen.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore
Grant the Great - Mar 29, 2005 5:25 pm (#2087 of 2930)
Do you mean where is the picture taken from? If so, then it's just on the main page, right under where the pen appears. However, I'm guessing you mean the design is somewhere else on the website. Guess it's time to start looking!
-Grant the Great
Miriam Huber - Mar 30, 2005 12:21 am (#2088 of 2930)
Oh, I am sorry I made you worry, too. Perhaps now I can make you smile with me:
I read the last postings in this thread and thought (not really in earnest, of course) of another open letter: "Jo, give word that you are alive and happy!"
And then I remembered Harry´s "reception commitee" at the end of OotP: If we don´t hear of you for three days in a row, someone will come along and look if you are all right (something like that, no book handy) ...
Perhaps we could send someone of the Order along to Edinburgh just to poke around a bit (Moody has still one invisibilty cloak at least)?
S.E. Jones - Mar 30, 2005 12:33 am (#2089 of 2930)
This thread is really only here to discuss JKR's official site and the contents thereof. We seem to be getting a little too waylaid with personal chatter, which is better suited for the Chat thread, and discussions of our favorite author's personal life, which isn't really appropriate anywhere on the forum. I know that we are all anxious for an update and that everyone means well in voicing their concerns for Ms. Rowling and her family, but perhaps we should try to stay more on-topic or move some discussion to the Chat thread. Please be respectful of Ms. Rowling's privacy and stay away from discussions about her home life. As can happen with any topic and any medium, baseless rumors could pop up that might offend her or her family and we really do not want to be associated with the start of any such gossip.
colbow - Mar 30, 2005 10:16 am (#2090 of 2930)
I think JKR web-site is one of the best around, and we are very lucky to have these tidbits coming in.Between the Lexicon and TLC, I have plenty to read. I am going to venture out to check out the new artwork that came in on HBP. See who lurking behind Dumbledore and Harry!
John Bumbledore - Mar 30, 2005 1:14 pm (#2091 of 2930)
Grant T.G. got my "find the clipping" right quick, I new it was to easy for avid fans of Jo's web site. Now I have changed my avatar again. But I am not going to do any more at this time, although I do like the Idea. I am working to place such seek and find images on my homepage. (maybe in a week or two.)
I have not found any updates today.
<)B^D= (John) Bumbledore.
Sticky Glue - Mar 30, 2005 2:12 pm (#2092 of 2930)
Bumbledore it's on the ribbish bin page, after Peeves comes through and breaks the second pen, and blows a gum wrapper away.
S.E. Jones - Mar 30, 2005 3:45 pm (#2093 of 2930)
We don't really allow "games" on the Forum, John Bubledore, though I appreciate the initiative in trying to keep your fellow members occupied while dealing with no updates. At any rate, this isn't the thread for such a hide-and-seek like form of entertainment.
Ponine - Mar 30, 2005 5:23 pm (#2094 of 2930)
One thing that struck me Bumbledore, was that on one of your avatars -the one with the envelope on it, there seemed to be a phone number scrawled on the envelope?!? I can't read it on my computer, but maybe someone else has a better - whatever program you use for those things? I was thinking maybe it would work on the phone... As far as I know, we only have the MoM phone number that we know 'works', right? Or have I missed something?
Madam Pince - Mar 30, 2005 6:27 pm (#2095 of 2930)
I think if you type in the numbers that correspond with the letters "Peeves," then you get the drawing of Peeves as a reward. It's been awhile so I may be remembering incorrectly, though. As far as I know, those are the only two numbers that work -- "Peeves" and "Magic."
Hermy - Mar 30, 2005 8:34 pm (#2096 of 2930)
Maybe we will get an update on the 100 day left point.
I would love more hints about HBP but no big spoilers. I was disappointed about finding out that Ron was made Prefect. I think that the chapter would have come as a big shock if I didn't already know about it.
If I could pick the update it would be the answer to the poll question then some more chapter titles.
What would be you want for an update? (or should that go on the vote post)
Phoenix song - Mar 30, 2005 8:51 pm (#2097 of 2930)
Hermy, I can sympathize with you not wanting spoilers. I'm the opposite, though. I wouldn't be the slightest bit upset if I were to log onto JKR's site and found that she had published the entire first chapter on her site. I'd only be upset that there wasn't a second, third, and fourth chapter to keep the first one company.
vanessa cave - Mar 31, 2005 2:03 am (#2098 of 2930)
Phoenix song your post really made me chuckle, I feel exactly the same!
KWeldon - Mar 31, 2005 11:13 am (#2099 of 2930)
I was disappointed about finding out that Ron was made Prefect
Hermy, where did you find this out? I want to avoid spoilers for HP6 at all costs.
Ladybug220 - Mar 31, 2005 12:05 pm (#2100 of 2930)
Edited by Mar 31, 2005 11:06 am
Well, Ron was made prefect in OOP so I would assume that he would continue to be one unless it was revoked (and we havnen't heard anything about that). Percy was a prefect until he became head boy.
scoop2172000 - Mar 31, 2005 2:10 pm (#2101 of 2930)
We have heard, however, that a person does not necessarily have to be a prefect in order to be Head Boy (or Girl). James was Head Boy, if Hagrid had his facts straight in mentioning it to Harry. However, we know from OOTP that James hadn't been a prefect: Lupin got the badge.
vanessa cave - Mar 31, 2005 4:27 pm (#2102 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Fred and George!
GryffEndora - Mar 31, 2005 5:29 pm (#2103 of 2930)
Happy Birthday Gred & Forge!!
Can anyone tell me how do you see the new wizard of the month info when it's a birthday?
S.E. Jones - Mar 31, 2005 7:09 pm (#2104 of 2930)
You have to go to the text only version of the site.
Here's what it said:
(1720 – 1799) Famous for studies of life and habits of trolls. Clubbed to death in the Cotswolds while sketching.
KWeldon - Mar 31, 2005 7:25 pm (#2105 of 2930)
To clarify, it sounded like Hermy found out about Ron making prefect before the book came out. I was just asking her what the source was so that I can avoid it and similar sources.
Hermy - Mar 31, 2005 8:24 pm (#2106 of 2930)
I can't remember exactly where I heard it. I thought it was from when they released the cover of the book jacket but I checked and the cover of OP and it just states that Ron was made keeper. I tried to do a search through the archives on Lexicon to refresh my memory.
Does anyone else remember knowing about Ron being made prefect before reading OP or did I just get my facts confused?
By the way I would love to read chapter by chapter on Jo's website - I also love the recent book covers and count down calendar. I don't mind subtle hints and clues while waiting for the book release but I don't want to know if this character dies or something big like that without reading it from Jo.
Happy B-day Fred and George
KWeldon - Mar 31, 2005 8:28 pm (#2107 of 2930)
Thanks for clarifying, Hermy. I wouldn't have even wanted to know that Ron was made keeper. However, I suppose there's no way that I could resist reading the book jacket cover once it's published, if it even will be before July 16.
Grant the Great - Mar 31, 2005 10:52 pm (#2108 of 2930)
You might be confused, Hermy, but I think that I knew that as well (I get the impression I knew that Harry wasn't made prefect when the badges were coming).
Regan of Gong - Apr 1, 2005 12:27 am (#2109 of 2930)
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I was sniffing around the fan site page and was reading about "Godrics Hollow" (the website). She says that the Hufflepuff's common room isn't a dungeon, it's more of a cellar, a subtle but important difference.
Any significance we can discuss?
Aurora Gubbins - Apr 1, 2005 12:33 am (#2110 of 2930)
Happy birthday Weasley Twins! Only one cake though...
To me a dungeon represents doom and gloom - think mediaeval imprisonment, whereas a cellar is not an unhappy place - Wine cellar? Hobbyist's hideout? I think its more of a room one level down but a dungeon to me sounds like you have to walk down hundreds of steps into the bowels of the earth.
I know which one I'd rather be in!
Kerrie-Louise - Apr 1, 2005 2:51 am (#2111 of 2930)
Fred and George happy birthday!
Katelyn Black - Apr 1, 2005 5:19 am (#2112 of 2930)
When does the new wizard of the month and birthdays show up on Jo's web site. I think mine is not working. All I have is last months info.
lkb - Apr 1, 2005 6:06 am (#2113 of 2930)
Mine too...I was wondering what was going on....
Ladybug220 - Apr 1, 2005 6:12 am (#2114 of 2930)
Katelyn, try refreshing the page and/or clearing your cache. That should do it.
Thora - Apr 1, 2005 6:58 am (#2115 of 2930)
Ponine- as for the numbers, many have tried them on the phone with no success, but I don't think we ever really agreed on what they are, reading them has proven a bit tricky. If you search this and the previous thread with the word Neil it should turn up some posts because that's what's written before the numbers and I think it was written in the posts... fail that search for the section where the rubbish bin was added, and you'll find references to the numbers.
Anyone know when the next fansite winner is due? Guess I need to do a search of my own...
Edit: There it is Dec 10th, hmmm aren't we over due for a quarterly winner then?
Hollywand - Apr 1, 2005 7:28 am (#2116 of 2930)
Regan, in reply to your query about Jo mentioning the "cellar" as a distinction on her web site, try the first Alchemy thread which has now archived.
Try a focused subject search with these words: cellar, badger, dungeon, oubilette, these rooms in a classic castle are described in our discussion, and how they might figure in an invasion of Hogwarts.
I hope this is helpful.
lkb - Apr 1, 2005 8:11 am (#2117 of 2930)
I think that we are overdue for just about everything.
I have two theories...well three 1. She is just taking more time for the family (I know I would) 2. JKR is really not happy with us baggering about updates so much. 3. She is writing on Book 7. (please let it be this one...please let it be this one...!)
I don't know...LKB
Cat 7 of 9 - Apr 1, 2005 10:52 am (#2118 of 2930)
To Gred & Feorge
Her-melanie - Apr 1, 2005 11:22 am (#2119 of 2930)
Gondoline, Oliphaunt, and trolls, eh? Can anyone say Lord of the Rings? Gondoline = Gondor? Oliphaunt, well that's Sam's joke. Trolls = The Hobbit; more specifically, Bilbo and the Dwarves. Wonder where she's going with that...
Little Ginny - Apr 1, 2005 11:30 am (#2120 of 2930)
Gondolin actually was an elven city in the first Age of the world. It was renowned for its smithes. Tuor the mortal there met Idril Celebrindal, with whom he had the son Earendil.
(Sorry for being an insufferable know-it-all, but I'm just re-reading LotR and couldn't resist).
I don't think there's a connection other than it sounds good and she perhaps picked the words subconsciously after reading LotR, though.
pottermom34 - Apr 1, 2005 8:32 pm (#2121 of 2930)
Hippo-bird Day to our favorite twins!!!
Aqualu Nifey - Apr 1, 2005 10:37 pm (#2122 of 2930)
It's not too late to wish the twins a happy birthday is it? I marked it on all my papers today. I bet my teachers think I'm crazy with this talk of Gred and Forge. =D
Aurora Gubbins - Apr 2, 2005 4:42 pm (#2123 of 2930)
Has anyone done a screen capture of the Extra Stuff before the bits of paper appear? I'm not sure but there seems to me to be a new piece of paper - just tucked in behind the "Fan Site; Pick new winner" post-it - it says "writing almost continuously" which as an update I would settle for, unless of course it's really old and I just never saw it before.
Ginerva Potter - Apr 2, 2005 4:46 pm (#2124 of 2930)
Sorry Aurora. It has been there for a while. I got really excited the first time I saw it too.
skh - Apr 4, 2005 1:57 am (#2125 of 2930)
Actually, I thought Gondoline was gonna be a girl when I first heard it, as it reminded me of Gwendoline! Clever to see the LotR parallels - I only noticed the Oliphaunt bit, but I'm with the "subconscious pilfering of cool sounding names" theory.
T Brightwater - Apr 5, 2005 3:52 pm (#2126 of 2930)
Another possibility for the source of the last name is the poet Carolina Oliphant, who is mentioned in Jill Paton Walsh's _Presumption of Death_. (This is a continuation of Dorothy L. Sayers' Lord Peter Wimsey series, and there are a couple of Sayers books in the website "library")
jose043 - Apr 6, 2005 6:47 am (#2127 of 2930)
Hi one & all
Has any one noticed that their are four new messages on JK Rowlings roumers site.
Eponine - Apr 6, 2005 6:54 am (#2128 of 2930)
Thanks for the heads up, Josephine! She's debunking some more theories.
GryffEndora - Apr 6, 2005 6:54 am (#2129 of 2930)
It may not be the FAQ but there is some good rumor debunking there!!!
Her-melanie - Apr 6, 2005 6:55 am (#2130 of 2930)
OMG!!!! Wow, that's a big one debunked...still nothing on the Giant Squid though...
Julia. - Apr 6, 2005 6:57 am (#2131 of 2930)
I've been saying it for ages (check my profile if you don't believe me)...That's all well and good, but at the end of the day Ron is Ron, Lupin is Lupin, and Dumbledore is the Giant Squid.
Thanks for the news Jose! Thank G-d she updated, I was going spare!
septentrion - Apr 6, 2005 6:57 am (#2132 of 2930)
Thanks Jose ! I would have liked a view to Snape's crosswords though...
KWeldon - Apr 6, 2005 7:23 am (#2133 of 2930)
Thank you, JKR!! We appreciate any information you can give us!
Eponine - Apr 6, 2005 7:34 am (#2134 of 2930)
More updates!!! Check out the FAQ section! (You might need to close her site and reload it)
GryffEndora - Apr 6, 2005 7:39 am (#2135 of 2930)
Thanks for the heads up Eponine!
And thank you Jo for making my month!
Penny Lane. - Apr 6, 2005 7:44 am (#2136 of 2930)
That FAQ about HP7 is depressing.
Ydnam96 - Apr 6, 2005 7:58 am (#2137 of 2930)
Well, we can't expect her to start writing right away. I mean, a new baby is quite enough to be going on with
Yay for an update though
I didn't check the trash bin, is there anything new there?
Her-melanie - Apr 6, 2005 8:11 am (#2138 of 2930)
The update about HBP is a little upsetting b/c she says some people won't like it. I expect that's because it gets a whole lot darker. The FAQ poll isn't loading, so I'm guessing that's being updated as we "speak". [EDIT: Of course NOW it is loading just like it used to with nothing new. **sigh**]
Elanor - Apr 6, 2005 8:16 am (#2139 of 2930)
I've just checked and there is nothing new in the trash bin.
It is so good to see some update! I was very happy to read the part about Flitwick and hear about his background. Er... come to think of it, I was very happy to read everything new... Since I saw the update, I can't help but smile stupidly (--> like that: ), thanks Jo!
Steve Newton - Apr 6, 2005 8:22 am (#2140 of 2930)
I see a new poll but no answer to the old one. Am I missing something?
Tomoé - Apr 6, 2005 8:35 am (#2141 of 2930)
On the rumour section:
Colin and Dennis Creevey will be the new Gryffindor Beaters
Nice idea, but no. The new Gryffindor Beaters will be completely new finds of the new Captain’s.
The Creevey brothers were not on the team for five books, what's the point to tell us the new Beaters will be completely new finds of the Captain's if the Captain is not Harry? ^_~
Edit: It's still the same old questions for me, number of chapter for HbP, Neville and the prophecy and Ron's possible future date.
Steve Newton - Apr 6, 2005 8:40 am (#2142 of 2930)
Good point, but, it could also be Ron.
Tomoé - Apr 6, 2005 8:55 am (#2143 of 2930)
Fair point, so either Ron or Harry.
azi - Apr 6, 2005 9:06 am (#2144 of 2930)
Yey!!! An update! I needed this so much... I would prefer JKR to look after her kids for a bit and then write an absolutely brilliant book 7 instead of keeping going and not writing well at all. We have book 6 on the way after all, and we'll need some time to dissect it fully. I think I'm going to love reading book 6, however dark it becomes.
I thought the information about Flitwick was interesting. I always imagined him as JKR briefly described him rather than goblin-like. The chapter names I'd never heard of before JKR mentioned them and to me they sound pathetic. These rumour people really don't know how to think of good rumours. The point about the movie incantations was extremely funny.
Miriam Huber - Apr 6, 2005 9:12 am (#2145 of 2930)
But WHY didn´t she answer the FAQ poll ?!?
MickeyCee3948 - Apr 6, 2005 9:25 am (#2146 of 2930)
Her-melanie I have to agree. I am afraid that HBP is going to be rather dark and some major characters will probably pass beyond the veil(so to speak).
Her-melanie - Apr 6, 2005 9:34 am (#2147 of 2930)
Tomoe, I was thinking along those very same lines...
skh - Apr 6, 2005 9:56 am (#2148 of 2930)
Tomoe, Her-melanie, I agree, was the 1st conclusion I jumped to!
When I saw the ques. "do you like the ½ Blood Prince" I got excited as I thought the answer might be, "yes, he's a lovely person" or (better!) "ugh, no!" giving some kinda wee clue that we could spend ages concocting daft theories about!!
Cat 7 of 9 - Apr 6, 2005 10:06 am (#2149 of 2930)
I see a new poll but no answer to the old one. Am I missing something? ... Steve Newton
I don't see a new poll, what are the questions?
KWeldon - Apr 6, 2005 10:35 am (#2150 of 2930)
Aack! Where's the stuff about Flitwick??????????
EDIT: NEVER MIND
Steve Newton - Apr 6, 2005 10:37 am (#2151 of 2930)
I'll give it a shot. I will edit.
1. How many chapters in HBP? 8%
2. What is the significance of Neville being named as the other boy towhom the prophecy might have referred? 68%
3. Will Ron ever learn to be more than just friends with a girl? 25%
Tomoé - Apr 6, 2005 11:19 am (#2152 of 2930)
Thanks for the update Jo! (I was so excited in my last post that I forgot -_-)
Jo still like HbP more than GoF, OoP and CoS, that a good sign:
Usually when I am just over halfway I normally love it, but by the time I finish it I completely despise it and think it is worthless rubbish. (Edinburgh Book Festival, 15 August 2004)
Edit: Those question have been there for months.
Steve Newton - Apr 6, 2005 11:59 am (#2153 of 2930)
Have I been that out ot touch? I thought that they were new.
KWeldon - Apr 6, 2005 12:03 pm (#2154 of 2930)
No, not at all.
Thora - Apr 6, 2005 1:12 pm (#2155 of 2930)
hmmm an elf, a centaur, a half giant, and Flitwick....
Thanks Jo! Glad to know your okay!
Thora (toddles off muttering about fountains).
Gina R Snape - Apr 6, 2005 2:03 pm (#2156 of 2930)
Just so long as she doesn't say a certain professor is a vampire...
haymoni - Apr 6, 2005 3:13 pm (#2157 of 2930)
I'm interested in this "new captain".
She hinted earlier that the new captain might not let Ron play.
Could Katie still be angry with the Twins for the bloody nose thing and take it out on Ron?
lkb - Apr 6, 2005 3:29 pm (#2158 of 2930)
Wow, I am totally happy! Not only did I get things done around the house but we got updates! Yeah! I am soooo Happy!
I too think that more than we think will actually die. Its like the LOTR's the second book is really just a book that gets you to the climax of the series. It gives just enough facts, ups the suspense, and makes the characters either more lovable, and you want to see them live, or more hate-able and you want to see evil be triumphed. There are so many answers that have to be given to really understand the final battle between Harry and Vol. I think that is what book 7 will be focusing on, the final battle.
Dr Filibuster - Apr 6, 2005 3:42 pm (#2159 of 2930)
I'm worried about Prof Flitwick now.
"Flitwick and Hagrid have never had a scene together, so Flitwick's genetic composition has been relegated to the very back of my mind over the six novels in which he features"
Ok, JK's probably talking about the six books she's written so far; or maybe he has a break during Half-blood Prince and comes back for the last novel, or perhaps he, gulp, nope, can't bring myself to say it.
T Brightwater - Apr 6, 2005 4:05 pm (#2160 of 2930)
The person who most wanted Ron off the team last year was Ron; it would be a typical joke on Jo's part to tell us that "the new captain might not let him play" if the new captain will be Ron.
I suppose I'm somewhat influenced by Ron's vision in the Mirror of Erised; I realize it doesn't have the same weight as a prophecy, but since he's already become a prefect he might end up as Head Boy, and he's on the Quidditch team as of now, so it doesn't look as far-fetched as it did in PS/SS.
Gina R Snape - Apr 6, 2005 5:58 pm (#2161 of 2930)
Nice catch, Dr. Filibuster! But my instinct tells me she just means the six books she's already written.
Melly - Apr 6, 2005 6:51 pm (#2162 of 2930)
Thank you Ms. Rowling! The update is much appreciated!
I think it's great that she's taking a few months break - a well deserved break in my opinion!
Joelle - Apr 6, 2005 7:09 pm (#2163 of 2930)
Where did it say that Ron wouldn't play. Also The first time I read it, I read Captains plural. but I suppose that doesn't make much sense. Thanks for the updates, JKR. And what was it that I heard about a crossword and Snape?
Julie Aronson - Apr 6, 2005 8:11 pm (#2164 of 2930)
Actually, Sue, that was my thought as well...I guess we'll have to wait and see. ARGH!!!!
Kerrie-Louise - Apr 7, 2005 12:25 am (#2165 of 2930)
It's great to have an update and the stuff about Flitwick was certainly interesting. It's also nice to know that things seem to be Ok in the Rowling household.
I wonder if the reason JKR hasn't answered the FAQ poll is because it might give too much away at this stage and she's trying to think how to word it??
Tomoé - Apr 7, 2005 12:32 am (#2166 of 2930)
It's not Captains, it's Captain’s.
For those who worry about the book 7, the timing for HbP->Mackenzie->HP7 is almost the same as for OoP->David->HbP, and she did manage to produce HbP whitin two years. HP7 should be a bit longer, but it could still be out for 2007 (though I do believe it will be 2008).
Miriam Huber - Apr 7, 2005 12:52 am (#2167 of 2930)
But it was she who chose the questions for the FAQ-poll! And she surely had a wide variety of questions to choose from... When I saw the FAQ-poll for the first time, I thought at once that she wanted us to choose the question about Neville, because the other two are not half as interesting -- so she wanted to tell us something about Neville and the prophecy.
But obviously, I have guessed wrong...
skh - Apr 7, 2005 1:53 am (#2168 of 2930)
See Miriam, am totally with you, I'm sure she guessed that was the question we'd want to hear answered.
Gina R Snape - Apr 7, 2005 6:33 am (#2169 of 2930)
Yes, I don't understand either why she hasn't answered the FAQ poll question. Perhaps that will be our next update.
Ann - Apr 7, 2005 7:03 am (#2170 of 2930)
The FAQ poll is always answered on a Monday--so perhaps, now that she's paying a bit of attention to the site again, we'll get that this coming Monday.
And, obviously, Dumbledore is not Harry or Ron come back from the distant future as an old man to advise--he has too much history for that to be true. But I still like the idea that he is Ron *from the present* (or book 7 anyway). She seems (to my mind) to be being very careful about saying "from the future." But I admit this makes it quite unlikely. (I also noticed that she said in an interview somewhere that she didn't think Ron was very likely to become a teacher.) Sigh. I just love that Chess theory--it's so CLEVER. But I'm beginning to think it's wrong.
Love your Snape bunny, Gina!
Aurora Gubbins - Apr 7, 2005 10:21 am (#2171 of 2930)
I think Jo chose her questions for the poll v-e-r-y carefully, just to throw a small tidbit to create a frenzy among us, then she'll throw another - but only a little bigger - in the form of the answer. I still can't get past the Mark Evans thing!
Gina: Will we be seeing Prof Snape dancing round the Maypole in frilly shirt and knickerbockers, waving a bladder on a stick for May?
Cat 7 of 9 - Apr 7, 2005 11:31 am (#2172 of 2930)
Aurora, thanks for the help with my diet I couldn't eat anything with a picture of "Snape dancing round the Maypole in frilly shirt and knickerbockers, waving a bladder on a stick for May" fresh in my mind!
PS. No offence meant Gina, he's just not my type.
Gina R Snape - Apr 7, 2005 11:38 am (#2173 of 2930)
Somehow I *highly* doubt that will happen.
Catherine - Apr 7, 2005 11:43 am (#2174 of 2930)
Will we be seeing Prof Snape dancing round the Maypole in frilly shirt and knickerbockers, waving a bladder on a stick for May?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I have to wash my eyeballs now!
Phelim Mcintyre - Apr 7, 2005 12:07 pm (#2175 of 2930)
It could be worse, Snape in a Father Christmas outfit. More no no no, than ho, ho, ho.
Aurora, J K R's questions are carefully chosen. To make us more desperate for the next book. If that is actually possible. (But why is it that when ever I use the initials JKR I hear the Dallas them tune?)
Madame Pomfrey - Apr 7, 2005 1:39 pm (#2176 of 2930)
JKR stated some wont like book 6 which tells me that it will be dark and we will most probably lose a loved one or two.Better have the bon -bons and tissue ready prior to reading.
Mare - Apr 7, 2005 2:53 pm (#2177 of 2930)
What what what??? What did we miss?
Aqualu Nifey - Apr 7, 2005 3:22 pm (#2178 of 2930)
Andrew, what do you mean she was wrong again? About what?
The Artful Dodger - Apr 7, 2005 3:24 pm (#2179 of 2930)
I think Andrew means that Hagrid and Flitwick did have a scene together (in PoA, the conversation about Sirius which Harry witnesses).
Grindylow - Apr 7, 2005 3:24 pm (#2180 of 2930)
I would love to know the answer to that as well.....
S.E. Jones - Apr 7, 2005 4:30 pm (#2181 of 2930)
I don't think she was referring specifically to that scene, Andrew, but more just making a joke. She's right too, if you were caught up in Devil's Snare or surrounded by Death Eaters, you'd want to use incantations that are quick to say....
Gina R Snape - Apr 7, 2005 5:15 pm (#2182 of 2930)
I find it funny that she would accuse that of being too long a spell. What about Avada Kedavra? It's one syllable shorter and still a heck of a long command to say.
S.E. Jones - Apr 7, 2005 5:22 pm (#2183 of 2930)
Maybe that's intentional, Gina. I mean, then your victim gets to hear the spell instead of just, well, poof...
Hm, that's a rather disturbing thought....
Gina R Snape - Apr 7, 2005 7:11 pm (#2184 of 2930)
Yes it is Sarah. But the intended victim also has a greater chance of escape during those 6 syllables than if, say, the spell were 'Death-0'; and, anyway, as Harry once pointed out you've already got crucio for torture.
Sometimes I wonder if JKR thinks about these sort of, er, practicalities. Anyway, that's what made her comment just a little amusing for me.
Now, what was all this about Snape and a crossword puzzle? I'm completely lost on that one.
septentrion - Apr 7, 2005 9:49 pm (#2185 of 2930)
It is in the rumours page : JKR said "the pocket crossword of Severus Snape" won't be a chapter title.
Elanor - Apr 7, 2005 10:22 pm (#2186 of 2930)
It would be indeed! Something like: "8 letters, spleeping liliaceous plant from the realm of the deaths" -->Asphodel or "5 letters, a walking nightmare"-->Potter !
septentrion - Apr 7, 2005 11:29 pm (#2187 of 2930)
LOL ! I would have loved to see it too !
wolfgrl - Apr 8, 2005 6:25 am (#2188 of 2930)
Sounds like gina has a project on her hands, creating a Snape crossword. I was happy that she answered some of the Lexicon's questions, although they were not the ones I would have picked to know.
Gina R Snape - Apr 8, 2005 6:40 am (#2189 of 2930)
Heh. Actually, wolfgrl, I might just make a Snape crossword in my free time at the end of semester.
Tomoé - Apr 8, 2005 9:36 am (#2190 of 2930)
Same here, wolfgrl, the questions, answered were not the ones I would have liked to know:
Are there other Gryffindors in Harry's year besides the ones we've met in the books?
Who teaches Ancient Runes and Muggle Studies? Are there other teachers and subjects that we haven't heard about yet?
How old are Molly and Arthur Weasley?
was James a Chaser, as you said in an interview at one point, or a Seeker? Or did he play both positions?
But I'm petty sure we'll get some of the Lexicon/Mugglenet questions answered in HbP.
Grindylow - Apr 8, 2005 11:00 am (#2191 of 2930)
I remember in Sorcer's Stone (movie), that Hermione shows Harry an award with James Potter on it that had "SEEKER" on it.
Tomoé - Apr 8, 2005 11:12 am (#2192 of 2930)
But JKR said James was chaser, it was in an interview on October 2000, about the same time the did the movie, so which one is true?
Gina R Snape - Apr 8, 2005 11:34 am (#2193 of 2930)
Not only did JKR say he was a chaser, but she was a bit miffed over the mistake in the film.
Grindylow - Apr 8, 2005 11:50 am (#2194 of 2930)
ooooh....so James was a chaser and not a seeker, as Harry is. In the movie, they made a big deal about how Quidditch was in Harry's blood because of James. I guess it could still have been "in his blood" just not the "seeker" part. I will go home and get out my copy and see if it says anything about it in the book, unless someone else knows?
Tomoé - Apr 8, 2005 11:50 am (#2195 of 2930)
It doesn't say, or the Lexicon wouldn't ask.
Gina -> Not only did JKR say he was a chaser, but she was a bit miffed over the mistake in the film.
Did she? About the very Chaser/Seeker mistake or mistakes in general?
popkin - Apr 8, 2005 11:54 am (#2196 of 2930)
About the Snape crossword posts, Mugglenet has reported that the New York Times will run its first Harry Potter crossword before HBP is released. I'm going to keep a look out for it.
Gina R Snape - Apr 8, 2005 5:13 pm (#2197 of 2930)
HP crossword in the NYT? Really?! SQUEEE!
Tomoe, it was about the Chaser/Seeker thing specifically. Though she wasn't super angry...
Tomoé - Apr 8, 2005 5:39 pm (#2198 of 2930)
But she still said he wasn't Seeker, thanks Gina.
S.E. Jones - Apr 9, 2005 12:25 am (#2199 of 2930)
Okay, how soon does everyone think we'll be getting an excerpt for HBP, or will we?
Last time, we got the excerpt, as small as it was, on January 15 and the the book was released June 21. That's about five months. We've already passed, for the most part, the five month mark. So, will it be soon or not at all?
Verschwinden Sie - Apr 9, 2005 12:28 am (#2200 of 2930)
Haven't we already gotten an excerpt from HBP (albeit a small one)?
S.E. Jones - Apr 9, 2005 12:48 am (#2201 of 2930)
We have? Do you mean the titles?
Catherine - Apr 9, 2005 5:23 am (#2202 of 2930)
Close to the release of OoP, JKR also gave us a bit from the initial impression of 12 GP and Harry's reunion with Hermione and Ron.
I hope the HBP snippet isn't all we get until July.
S.E. Jones - Apr 9, 2005 7:55 am (#2203 of 2930)
Thanks Andrew, I'd actually managed to forget that.
Catherine, I'm hoping right along side you....
Gina R Snape - Apr 9, 2005 8:22 am (#2204 of 2930)
Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful if she did another interview like the one at Royal Albert Hall? I know that was after OOtP was released, but she provided so much good info in that one.
Weeny Owl - Apr 9, 2005 11:07 am (#2205 of 2930)
The "chaser" answer was from an interview in October of 2000.
Question: What position did James play on the Gryffindor Quidditch team? Was it seeker like Harry, or something different? J.K. Rowling responds: James was Chaser.
Aqualu Nifey - Apr 9, 2005 4:03 pm (#2206 of 2930)
Didn't she also give us that bit at the end? Where Dumbledore tells Harry to sit down and he will tell him everything? I remember going crazy about it. The most ridiculous things came into my head... I think it was in either Time magazine or the LA times or something.
Katelyn Black - Apr 9, 2005 4:42 pm (#2207 of 2930)
I just went on JO's site and discovered that I have to start all over in finding my Easter eggs (yes I refreshed my page). I think this will be fun to see if I can remember where everything is.
Thora - Apr 9, 2005 9:25 pm (#2208 of 2930)
I gettin the snipit that ended with DD saying he was going to tell Harry everything, too. Man I was going nutts, and the worst part was not having a fanbase to share with, so glad I'm here now.
I really don't think we'll get much more, it'd be gladly accepted but not at all expected.
Remeber to be careful what you wish for you might just get a giant blue candy!
Hollywand - Apr 9, 2005 10:33 pm (#2209 of 2930)
I was relieved that Jo put the kibosh on the "Ron is Dumbledore" theory, and time travel in the Rumours section.
I was a little surprised at her cryptic remarks about Hermy and Ron's future! She's going to have to go to Bolivia just to get a decent afternoon nap! ;-)
I thought it was funny that Nicholas Flamel apparently had been put forward as a HbP candidate...seems like everyone has been.......no character unconsidered.
Sticky Glue - Apr 10, 2005 1:40 am (#2210 of 2930)
I've just tried to go on JKR site twice, the FAQ and rubbish bin won't load, and my computers frozen up. This has never happened to me before on her site or any other. Do you think she might be updating?
Kip Carter - Apr 10, 2005 1:51 am (#2211 of 2930)
Sticky Glue, I just checked out most of the links, including the complete FAQ, and it worked like a charm. Based on your message, it sounds like maybe your computer resources were low which would localized the problem to just your computer. You need to reboot to free up sufficient resources.
I apologize for not sticking around to see if that corrects your situation; however I have a very busy early morning schedule today. I will check back later. Have fun posting.
Sticky Glue - Apr 10, 2005 2:21 am (#2212 of 2930)
Thanks Kip, It's really strange. I was using a computer with a pentium 4 2.4Ghz processor, and 504MB of RAM, had nothing else open or running. I'm using a broadband internet connection at a speed of 100mbps. I restarted my computer three times. But I just used my laptop and everything on her site worked fine, as you said, now I've come back to the other computer and it worked ok as well. I'm really confused, but sorry to get any body's hopes up.
Kip Carter - Apr 10, 2005 2:23 am (#2213 of 2930)
Sticky Glue, I am glad that everything is back to normal for you. Got to run. Later!
frogface - Apr 11, 2005 4:32 am (#2214 of 2930)
I was annoyed to see that most people are voting for the next FAQ to be about the significance of Neville being the other candidate for 'the one' in the Prophecy. I think the answer is probably very important and therefore JKR won't want to answer it and give something important away too early.
skh - Apr 11, 2005 7:48 am (#2215 of 2930)
Frogface, do you really think that Jo would have posted a question that could possibly - in any remote way - be a spoiler?!
Ydnam96 - Apr 11, 2005 7:50 am (#2216 of 2930)
I went this morning hoping that she had answered the Poll question...but alas... no. Someone earlier said she always did that on Mondays so I thought/hoped...
How far off track are we from the original pattern she used to update? I think Christmas threw it all off.
Grindylow - Apr 11, 2005 8:31 am (#2217 of 2930)
I, too, believe that Jo wouldn't post a question such as this one if she didn't intend to answer it. We may not get as much detail on it as we would like, but she will "eventually" answer it. I can't wait until she does, though I am so ready for the BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!
frogface - Apr 11, 2005 9:22 am (#2218 of 2930)
Sorry I didn't look at the site properly, I assumed they were the most commonly asked questions or something, my bad!
Grindylow - Apr 11, 2005 9:27 am (#2219 of 2930)
no problem frogface! I hope when she does answer, it will have been worth the wait!
Dumbledore - Apr 11, 2005 5:35 pm (#2220 of 2930)
Oh I feel like such an unfaithful Pottie. I have frantically been looking at the JKR website wondering where to find the FAQ poll, and the catch is I know I have taken some previously. Can someone please help me?
Oh the effects of aging at a grand 13 years
P.S. Check other threads..I think I am having Harry Potter amnesia right now as I am not catching on to things...
Madame Pomfrey - Apr 11, 2005 6:09 pm (#2221 of 2930)
Dumbledore click on the paperclips to recieve owl post then click on the letter marked "about the books" then click on poll from there.
Missy Greene - Apr 13, 2005 2:02 pm (#2222 of 2930)
The gossip has been updated!
Grindylow - Apr 13, 2005 2:17 pm (#2223 of 2930)
What has been updated?????
Catherine - Apr 13, 2005 2:41 pm (#2224 of 2930)
It's the same "Rumours" that she updated last week. I see no difference today, alas earwax.
Tomoé - Apr 13, 2005 10:04 pm (#2225 of 2930)
Flitwick’s genetic composition has been relegated to the very back of my mind over the six novels in which he features (jkrowling.com)
Is it just my wicked mind or does it sound like Flitwick could get toasted in HbP? (I getting more and more paranoid and we are not even near to July yet ^_~)
riotgrrrl - Apr 13, 2005 10:21 pm (#2226 of 2930)
To my knowledge she has not commented on any of the characters making it to the 7th installation so I wouldn't put too much into it. Although, if a split in the magical community forces certain groups to take sides, then those who do not side with their family members may be , um, quickened into the "next great adventure".
Madame Pomfrey - Apr 14, 2005 4:25 am (#2227 of 2930)
I agree Tomoe.Isn't Flitwick the one who is supposed to be good at dueling?Perhaps he duels with a DE and loses.Of course,JKR may be referring only to the completed books.
Catherine - Apr 14, 2005 4:36 am (#2228 of 2930)
I took JKR's comment about the "six books" to mean the completed novels.
She has said that she has not written Book 7 yet, as she is still doing small edits on HBP, so literally, Flitwick can only be featured through HBP.
Grant the Great - Apr 14, 2005 6:34 am (#2229 of 2930)
I agree that she meant the six already written books. In the seventh, she doesn't know exactly what scenes are going to be in it, so she doesn't know if Hagrid and Flitwick are going to feature in the same scene there.
Medulla - Apr 16, 2005 3:11 pm (#2230 of 2930)
Hi there, has anyone noticed that on the bloomsbury countdown calender the 28th of april does bizar things like becoming question marks or forming swirls?? Mabey it is a clue that we will get something good on that day! I wonder what it might be- an extract from the book perhaps?
Chemyst - Apr 16, 2005 5:10 pm (#2231 of 2930)
Medulla, if you click on that date, a mini-window opens about gnomes which is an ad to support Comic Relief.
Shorcut to Countdown Calendar.
Aurora Gubbins - Apr 17, 2005 4:05 pm (#2232 of 2930)
Well, for anyone who wondered when updates occur, consider this: I just opened a window with Jo's website and saw that her calendar didn't tie in with my computer clock. My clock said 00:01 and her calendar said 17th April. Suddenly, an owl hooted in the background and with a rustle of paper the calendar pages flipped and the new date appeared.
That's it. Nothing else. No new updates. No FAQ poll. Nothing.
Ah, well, better go to my bed now...
Ainsley Black - Apr 18, 2005 2:37 am (#2233 of 2930)
Updates usually don't appear untill about 10am our time (uk time that is) only the dates tends to change at midnight.
Aurora Gubbins - Apr 18, 2005 3:31 pm (#2234 of 2930)
Thanks Ainsley, I'll go to bed earlier in future *yawn*
Mattew Bates - Apr 22, 2005 2:27 pm (#2235 of 2930)
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that there is an eighth easter egg that no one has puzzled out yet? The biggest evidence for me is that there is the "Page of doodlings (page 2)," but no PoD page 1. Then, there are the things which seem like they should lead to something, but I have yet to figure out. One is answering the phone on the main page. Another is what I can only assume is a sneakoscope by the rubbish bin. There could be other ways, too - different words to plug into the phone, for instance. Has anyone found anything not listed in Kip's first post?
Madam Pince - Apr 22, 2005 3:27 pm (#2236 of 2930)
I don't think we've found anything else yet, Mattew, but I think you're probably right -- at some point in the future, some of those things you mentioned (phone, sneakoscope, etc.) will figure into finding future Easter Eggs. The question is just when she will decide to "activate" them. Soon, I hope!
Her-melanie - Apr 24, 2005 10:49 am (#2237 of 2930)
Another clue that hasn't been used yet is the series of numbers on the 'Rubbish Bin' page that gets uncovered when Peeves blows by- the one with "Neil" written above it. I still think that is important, and I also wonder if it's something no one has figured out yet. I can see Jo thinking to herself, "Come on guys, I can't give you anything else until you find that last thing!"
Choices - Apr 24, 2005 2:23 pm (#2238 of 2930)
Her-melanie - "Another clue that hasn't been used yet is the series of numbers on the 'Rubbish Bin' page that gets uncovered when Peeves blows by- the one with "Neil" written above it."
I knew I had seen the name "Neil" in my readings - I have searched and finally found it......
The name Nigellus comes originally from the Viking NIUL which became NJAL when it reached England. In Ireland it changed to NIUL or NEIL. The name NEIL means "champion". When the main language of the British Isles became Latin, the name NEIL became Nigellus and the modern form is NIGEL. The name Nigellus in Latin means black as does the first name Phineas, so Phineas Nigellus translates to Black Black.
Choices - Apr 24, 2005 2:43 pm (#2239 of 2930)
Sorry to post useless information. I had no idea what her husband's name was.....she fails to mention that in the books.
riotgrrrl - Apr 24, 2005 2:55 pm (#2240 of 2930)
I agree, I just thought it was her husband and never gave it a second thought.
Madam Pince - Apr 24, 2005 4:33 pm (#2241 of 2930)
Me three. But I think it's extremely cool to know that Phineas Nigellus means "Black Black."
Ydnam96 - Apr 24, 2005 6:17 pm (#2242 of 2930)
It is indeed interesting to know that Phineas's name means Black Black..I wonder if that will have any significance later since his portrait knows that the Order's head quarters are at #12??
Thora - Apr 24, 2005 6:35 pm (#2243 of 2930)
Drat, black doesn't work on the phone.
The thing about the Neil numbers is that they are two hard to read, in fact search this thread and you will see that even the computer whizzes on here can't agree on what they are for sure.
We really do need to get organized on our typing names in the phone, though I doubt that's where the possible "Missing treat" lies.
She has given us more treats with out that one being found, I think I'm correct in stating that it's been missing since the introduction of the site.
skh - Apr 25, 2005 12:20 am (#2244 of 2930)
Also, the treats that we have didn't come in numerical order, I think. Am I right in saying taht they came in something along the lines of 5, 3 and 7 and then 2, 4, 6 and 7 (I made up that order myself, of course!) so in the next round of easter eggs we could potentially have 10, 11 and 8 - or some such!
Lina - Apr 25, 2005 3:43 am (#2245 of 2930)
Well, I think that Neil's numbers are unreadable on purpose.
But I like the idea to spread rumors that there are more than 7 easter eggs or that there are exactly 7 Easter eggs, because then she could mention it on the rumours page and let us know what is the truth. Well, maybe she already would have, if there were more then 7 of them...
dizzy lizzy - Apr 25, 2005 4:33 am (#2246 of 2930)
I've always thought there were more Easter Eggs and pages to come. Personally, I think they are being dragged out over a couple of years. Also the "pages" that are "missing" might have clues for the next 2 books.
And as much as I'd like to have a complete set of pages, I don't want my surprise being spoiled.
lkb - Apr 28, 2005 7:13 am (#2247 of 2930)
Edited Apr 28, 2005 8:38 am
do you know what I hate? When my computer resets. I go to the JKR site, as I do everyday looking for something, anything new...and find...OH! A marble! There must be an update, but as previous experience has taught me I went to my scrapbook and lo and behold, some of the pages were missing.
by the by...has anyone else noticed on the fan site page that when you click on the key with your mouse (hold down the click and move the mouse off of it without letting up) and move away from the key that it still lights up? I tried to move and click on everything on the page to see if it was more than just a glitch. Anyone else notice it?
Tomoé - Apr 28, 2005 9:08 am (#2248 of 2930)
All the portkey do that, on what ever page you are. You can even make them all glow on the main page. ^_~
Johninboro - Apr 29, 2005 2:46 pm (#2249 of 2930)
Daft question really, but has anyone read the so-called E-Book titled "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince"? I have read up to chapter 23, you can tell it is a fake, but it is a good fake. I just downloaded it for something to read to see what it was like. I certainly hope that this isn't the real book coz if it is then I have spoilt it for myself. It does make a good read but it is obvious that this is a fake, deffo not JKR material. And if it IS the real deal, then I am shocked, especially shocked at the numerous typos in it. This version does look as though it has been written by an American as it uses American words "faucet" etc. throughout the book.
Aurora Gubbins - Apr 29, 2005 3:17 pm (#2250 of 2930)
Johninboro: Thanks for 'fessing that you did what JKR says not to do on her website ;-) It just shows the rest of us that it's not worth the time to download. A decent forger would go a long way (?) to make sure they use English English and not American English. (No offence intended to our American cousins) This is one of the reasons why it is worth taking notice of Jo's website info. I would suggest you read some of the unofficial Potterania, or maybe study the Lexicon website or some such as a stop-gap until July 16th!
Johninboro - Apr 29, 2005 5:47 pm (#2251 of 2930)
Ermm...just got to chapter 30 and decided to shread the book. What a waste of 289 pages of paper and ink printing it out. The author had a pretty good plot running through it too, shame he/she spoilt it by turning it into some sort of comic cartoon that is as confusing as Hansel and Grettle (when did you last live in a house that you could eat?) Like JKR's website says, don't even bother to waste the time, disk space, paper and ink on this trash, it's not worth it. I shall now go and iron my hands.
TwinklingBlueEyes - Apr 30, 2005 2:04 am (#2252 of 2930)
Can't resist..."shame he/she spoilt it by turning it into some sort of comic cartoon".
What is really a shame is when someone posts who admittedly doesn't know either the author or the text just to say is not worth it.
My advice wouldn't be to iron your hands, that is for a select few who do have some inkling of the subject they are discussing, but to find more noble pursuits. Have a good day and a great next adventure!
Find a great comic book to enjoy! -
Back on topic... isn't it wonderful to see all the different hm, aspects in the world that JKR's site and books bring together?
Last of my edits: Delete if you must, I still enjoyed typing it! :-)
Neville Longbottom - Apr 30, 2005 3:23 am (#2253 of 2930)
I mean really, what was the point of making the twenty-eighth seem all mysterious if they weren't actually building up to anything?
Maybe they knew it is my birthday and were building up to that. That's why they mentioned the Garden Gnome on the website.
dizzy lizzy - Apr 30, 2005 3:44 am (#2254 of 2930)
When will it be a year since the site opened?
ruthlesspenguin - Apr 30, 2005 4:35 am (#2255 of 2930)
I just had a look at Mugglenet's news archive, and their post announcing the creation of the site was posted on 15th May last year.
Kip Carter - Apr 30, 2005 4:36 am (#2256 of 2930)
Andrew, Jo's site has not "been open much longer than a year." It opened 15 May 2004. Check the beginning of this thread.
Added Edit: It seems that ruthlesspenguin and I were both looking up the answer at the same time; however we each choose different sources.
Lina - Apr 30, 2005 6:03 am (#2257 of 2930)
I was looking at the door today. Well, if she thinks that she shouldn't give us any hints about the book any more, she could just open the door to show us the picture of little Mackenzie. I just hate closed door. I never put the "Do not disturb" sign on my door.
Madame Pomfrey - Apr 30, 2005 6:58 am (#2258 of 2930)
Yes.May 15th is right I checked the JKR thread on the LEXICON(Who's Mugglenet?LOL)I think this is the longest we have had to wait for the door to open or so it seems.I think she will answer the poll question soon she just has to word it right so she dont give too much away.
edit*Lina.That is a good idea.I dont like closed doors either.We will at least get a new witch of the month tomorrow.
Johninboro - Apr 30, 2005 7:12 am (#2259 of 2930)
Maybe I read TwinklingBlueEyes post wrong, but are you claiming to be the author of the faked version that I read? If so, then how do you know that I read that same version? I am sure that there are numerous versions floating about the internet.
Gina R Snape - Apr 30, 2005 10:18 am (#2260 of 2930)
Neville, was your birthday 28 April?
And, I do hope she does something for the one year anniversary of the site. But I'm not really expecting her to.
Neville Longbottom - Apr 30, 2005 11:34 am (#2261 of 2930)
Neville, was your birthday 28 April?
Yes, it was. And I was thrilled when I saw that there was something at this date on the Bloomsbury calendar and hoped that it would lead to something bigger. But alas, it didn't. It would have ben a nice unintentional birthday present.
Elanor - Apr 30, 2005 11:41 am (#2262 of 2930)
It would be so great to have something new on the 15th that we could chew over for days on end! We need it (please, Jo...).
Well, at least, we're sure there will be an update tomorrow with a new wizard of the month.
PS: Andrew:"which is really unusual for me, because increasingly I find myself saying things like "the Neverending Story couldn't have been filmed that long ago, why it was only five or six... ummm... oh, my... TWENTY ONE YEARS AGO. Oh mercy, I'm getting old...". LOL! It has become quite a habit of me too...
Edit: happy belated birthday Neville!
Gina R Snape - Apr 30, 2005 3:01 pm (#2263 of 2930)
Yes, happy belated birthday Neville. FYI, 28 April is my birthday too.
Choices - Apr 30, 2005 5:22 pm (#2264 of 2930)
Happy Belated Birthday to Gina and Neville.
Gina - I can only imagine what Severus gave you for your birthday! LOL I hope it was something magical!!
Thora - Apr 30, 2005 8:02 pm (#2265 of 2930)
Well that's exciting, Felix!!!! Now what chapter title was that? 14, that's it. Perhaps a clue in the Wizzard of the Month? I might be confuesd here but didn't we already know about him. Time for some research!
(Ahhh I love the feeling of HP related excitement.)
Edit: Okay now I don't know how I didn't open the calendar for a whole month (after the cake left that is) and yet spent a couple of hours playing with the phone. I'm assuming I need to read up on the chapters thread and your all way ahead of me. It is odd that she re-used someone though....
Amber Rose - Apr 30, 2005 8:39 pm (#2266 of 2930)
Sorry to interrupt with a silly question, but I have found all of the Easter Eggs on the JK Rowling site and I would like to reset my Internet Explorer so that I can find them again. Can someone direct me to the post where it tells how to do this. I know I have seen it before. Thanks!
Thora - Apr 30, 2005 9:06 pm (#2267 of 2930)
I believe that is "How do you..." thread post 243. If not try a search using the word cache on that thread and you'll find it.
Or you could leave it as is and use another one of the sites, .org .uk etc when you want the fresh look, a complete list a the begining of this thread.
Ydnam96 - Apr 30, 2005 9:18 pm (#2268 of 2930)
I also believe if you delete all cookies and temoporary internet files (under the internet options menu) it will clear all of that from your computer.
to stay on topic...the other day I was on the site the place on the FAQ poll where the answer would be, or the description is before she answers it. Anyway...that part wouldn't load. I was excited...but I went back today and it's just the description again. When are we gonna get an answer?? I'm dying to know...
Elanor - Apr 30, 2005 10:52 pm (#2269 of 2930)
Felix Summerbee, the name of the "new" Wizard of the month, was ringing a bell, so I've checked the Lexicon and it appears he was already the Wizard of the Month exactly a year ago, for May 2004. (which goes to show I still have lucid moments Andrew, phew! **wondering if it will last till I turn 33** )
Hmm... Should we presume then that each wizard of the month from now on will be the same than the year before?
Mrdrama - Apr 30, 2005 11:09 pm (#2270 of 2930)
Elanor and Others,
Some sites are reporting that the New Wizard of the Month should be
Chieftainess of Warlock's Castle
but apparently the site is having some technical problems.
Edit: Just so you know, it is apparently a site-wide problem. The Text Only site also has Felix Summerbee, so, I do not know where the other sites are getting their information. . . .
Neville Longbottom - May 1, 2005 5:50 am (#2271 of 2930)
Thanks for the Birthday wishes and Happy belated birthday to Gina. :-)
The wizards of the months were all from the famous wizard cards, right? How many wizard cards were there? Because if there are more than 12, than it seems likely to me that it was indeed just a mistake, and that we will continue to have more WotM.
Ydnam96 - May 1, 2005 8:33 am (#2272 of 2930)
No I don't think that all of the wizards of the months are all from the famous wizards cards. I could be wrong. I'm sure though that JK reserves the right to use whatever wizard she has come up with
Mugglenet says the same thing that Mrdrama said above. I think it's a glitch. I'm off to see what it says now...
edit: nope, still the same. Makes me wonder if it isn't an "on purpose mistake??"
He sure looks funny doesn't he? Inventor of Cheering Charms...
Felix, chapter title yes? Etymology (I think): cat, happy...
Madame Pomfrey - May 1, 2005 9:20 am (#2273 of 2930)
Ydnam I'm with you in thinking it might be purposeful.A clue as to what the chapter title Feix Felicis might mean -A cheering charm as you and others have suggested.
KWeldon - May 1, 2005 7:47 pm (#2274 of 2930)
I'm so glad someone mentioned that Felix Summerbee has been on there before. I could have sworn it already had been, and my suspicions were confirmed. It's nice to know that you are NOT losing your mind...
MickeyCee3948 - May 1, 2005 8:53 pm (#2275 of 2930)
KWeldon -Speak for yourself ha, ha, hee, hee, HA, HA, HEE, HEE I am waiting for the day when an update comves out so I can say those famous lines "Is this a great universe or what?"
Phelim Mcintyre - May 2, 2005 9:36 am (#2276 of 2930)
Oh wonderful we have a new wizard of the month. So what. THe fan site has been HAPNA for so long.
Please Jo I'm getting desperate.............
T Brightwater - May 2, 2005 12:29 pm (#2277 of 2930)
I wonder if the FAQ poll question hasn't been answered because the answer to the one which is firmly in the lead would give too much away? If that's the case, I don't expect to see it answered until after Book 6 is out.
Aurora Gubbins - May 2, 2005 12:39 pm (#2278 of 2930)
Would have to disagree with that T, I don't think Jo would have chosen it as a poll question if she really didn't want to answer it. She's teasing us, and I think after all the wait we'll get an answer that only leads to more questions. I thinks she chose those 3 questions knowing which one we'd go for.
Personally I think Neville is immensely important to this whole series and I think he was going to be LV's next port of call after dispensing with Harry, that's why the LeStranges thought the Longbottoms knew what happened to LV. I've said all this on other threads so I should leave it at that!
Lina - May 2, 2005 1:42 pm (#2279 of 2930)
Just for the record, I need to say that I believe that Felix Felicis is a person. I even think it might be a new DADA teacher. I'm not offering any arguments because I don't want to make polemics. I just want, when the book comes out, you to say: "Oh, Lina, you were so right!" Well, if it turns out that I am wrong, I'll just have to admit it as well.
Tomoé - May 2, 2005 8:36 pm (#2280 of 2930)
Okay, I took a note and I'll tell you just that if you turn out to be right. ^_~
Gina R Snape - May 2, 2005 9:30 pm (#2281 of 2930)
Tomoé, that is too kind of you!
Lina - May 3, 2005 12:30 am (#2282 of 2930)
Yes, it is, thank you! ~_^
skh - May 3, 2005 3:13 am (#2283 of 2930)
How about Felix Felicis being a person, but not a teacher? Wasn't Luna Lovegood a chapter title in OotP? Maybe Felix will be a chap from another house, or maybe even a transfer/exchange student from Beauxbatons (the name being slightly more Mediterranean sounding than the more Germanic Durmstrang-ers!?)...
To be honest, at this stage it's been so long since any updates, that (while I would settle for any at this stage!) I'm hoping for either new Easter Eggs, the door to the RoR being open or else whole new pages (like the day the Rubbish Bin page arrived). Greedy of me, I know!!
Sorry - edit.... What about the wizard of the month mystery - where is the info coming from about the other, supposedly "correct" one? S.
Thora - May 3, 2005 5:42 am (#2284 of 2930)
Someone needs to take the award back from the website designers, it's the 3rd for Flitwick's sake!
S.E. Jones - May 3, 2005 8:47 am (#2285 of 2930)
--Someone needs to take the award back from the website designers, it's the 3rd for Flitwick's sake!-- Thora
I'm not sure what you mean, Thora, when I go to the site, it says it is the 3rd. They don't always change the date at midnight (UK time).
Stringer - May 3, 2005 3:50 pm (#2286 of 2930)
May I just make a subtle and quiet plea for JKR to please post on her site....Anything, even if it is about gum stuck to the bottom of her shoe.....I'm going nuts here...
Delightful Task! - May 4, 2005 1:42 am (#2287 of 2930)
Well, perhaps we should consider things more ... quietly! I don't know why this Elfrida Clagg should be the witch of the month... Felix Summerbee is far more interesting! Why should it be a mistake? Of course there is a link with Felix Felicis! (Although I don't know what it is!) And the fact it already appeared last year might be a sign!! Let's be positive!!! And as a matter of fact, If Jo reads us, I hope she'll have us wait a bit more! Elfrida Clagg is a rumour as long as she has not appeared on her web site, I suppose! And are we so desperate as to hope this Elfrida Clagg could at least force Jo to update the rumour section?!
Madame Pomfrey - May 4, 2005 6:31 am (#2288 of 2930)
I agree Delightful, as it being a rumour until it is actually on her website.As far as updating goes I think that Jo may wait til it is a little closer to the pulication date.The reason being..I think she will update only once between now and when the book is released.
Cat 7 of 9 - May 4, 2005 6:45 am (#2289 of 2930)
As far as updating goes I think that Jo may wait until it is a little closer to the publication date. The reason being .. I think she will update only once between now and when the book is released. ... Madame Pomfrey
Am I the only greedy person here? I was hoping for one update per week!
Madame Pomfrey - May 4, 2005 6:49 am (#2290 of 2930)
LoL.I'm trying with all my might to have patience here!
pottermom34 - May 4, 2005 6:57 am (#2291 of 2930)
Maybe that's why Felix Summerbe is the Wizard of the month. He is the inventor of cheering charms, maybe she is trying to tell us to cheer up another update is coming soon! Ok maybe that was a bit of wishful thinking too.
Thora - May 4, 2005 7:15 am (#2292 of 2930)
I figured out why she hasn't updated her site yet, she never does it unless we are busy discussing things of no revelance what-so-ever on the site. So we need someone from the UK to try to identify which brand of chewing gum she uses, someone else to research the toys by the rubbish bin, and someone else to identify the cell phone.
Any takers? (And yes I'm serious! Are we Lexiconer's or not? Is this the best place on the internet for JKR information or not? We can do it!!!!!)
Stringer - May 4, 2005 8:04 am (#2293 of 2930)
Well if speculation helps us to hear from JKR-I'm speculating the title of book seven to be Harry Potter and the Angry Bowtruckle.
I'm also speculating fang is an animagi and his true identity is the half-blood prince.
To top off my (um) theories, Voldermort is suffering from inability to perform cheering charms. Send him in a room with Flitwick, and all conflict will end.
(patiently waiting for JKR.......)
lkb - May 4, 2005 10:05 am (#2294 of 2930)
Oh! You just made my day so much brighter...
My predictions and observations were more along the lines of the next quidich matches, I think this year Slitherin might take a beating. I wonder if there is going to be a new kind of broom out this year? There has to be a chapter about that somewhere in the book right? Or will the Order business make it so that Harry can't play? Oh no!
Anyhow I have strayed too much off topic... Another prediction... Maybe Vol will turn into a mouse and be eaten by a cat. He He He
Catherine - May 4, 2005 10:30 am (#2295 of 2930)
The wait is definitely taking its toll, but enough off-topic chatter.
skh - May 5, 2005 1:25 am (#2296 of 2930)
Okay Thora (and Catherine, to bring us back on-topic to a site-relevant discussion!)...
Does anyone else think that the chewing gum wrapper looks like Orbit? Changed enough to avoid copyright issues etc., but that's my best guess!
And do you think things like the chewing gum wrappers are (A) a usual JKW device, masquerading as her own "addiction" and indicative of her breaking the ciggie habit, or (B) a sly attempt to fool us into thinking option (a) is corrrect but really pointing to the plot - in this case perhaps something to do with the Longbottoms and a possible recovery / discovery?
PS - hope we get an update today now!
Thora - May 5, 2005 7:04 am (#2297 of 2930)
I think Sarah is right, I made my new advatar from pics on the Orbit UK site and our dear Jo's site and I think it's a perfect match!
Right then on to the toys and cell phone.
Verschwinden Sie - May 5, 2005 7:21 am (#2298 of 2930)
Okay... so upon seeing the evidence presented by Thora, you're right, skh. It looks like an Orbit wrapper to me, too. I respectfully withdraw the notion that it resembles a Doublemint wrapper.
skh - May 5, 2005 8:48 am (#2299 of 2930)
hehe, Andrew, am amused! I have a bit of a gum habit myself too (for prettty much the same reasons as JKR) so I did think I was a bit of an expert, al though am now an "extra" fan myself (although I prefer spider solitaire to minesweeper!!).
I still maintain that the gum wrappers are indicative to something besides just the quitting of the smokes though, even if she does just intend it to be a red herring - yes, I think she is that devious!
Is there aything else on the site that you think points to either a clue or red herring... the crescents maybe? The pictures on the links page?
Shannon aka Brammwell - May 5, 2005 9:52 am (#2300 of 2930)
This is a very long thread so I apologize for not being able to read back far enough to find my answer; I'm hoping one of you could help me with it.
A while ago I tried entering into the cell phone the number that Arthur Weasely used on the pay phone to enter the MoM in chapter 7 of OofP - 6-2-4-4-2 and it comes back with a check mark. Is there something I'm supposed to do or is this all I'm going to get, and what does the check mark mean? Please help, this riddle is driving me loonie!
Grindylow - May 5, 2005 10:06 am (#2301 of 2930)
that number spells MAGIC. It gives you a scrapbook page.
Madame Kulich - May 5, 2005 10:39 am (#2302 of 2930)
The checkmark means you have already received that prize for entering in the phone number. If you enter a wrong number, it gives you a triangle with an exclamation point inside. So you must have already received the prize for that correct phone number.
Cat 7 of 9 - May 5, 2005 11:54 am (#2303 of 2930)
Does anyone have a list of the phone numbers that have been tried on Jo's phone? I'm still convinced we are missing one.
Thora - May 5, 2005 8:01 pm (#2304 of 2930)
Cat- nope I've been trying to get Bumbledore to do one, but he's quite busy with a job search so if you'd like to volunteer... I'm sure if we divided up groups of names and spells we could do a list quickly. We just need to get organised.
Anyone want to take the reins on that?
Shannon aka Brammwell - May 5, 2005 10:23 pm (#2305 of 2930)
Thora - After reading your last thread I've gone in and tried the following on the cell phone by translating the spelling into the numbers like the previuos thread showed 6-2-4-4-2 was magic without any luck" Dumbledore Choices Fawkes HPotter Harry Charms JKRowling Snape Joanne Hermione Weasley Lupin Black Riddle Albus Sirius
The only one's that have worked thus far are magic and Peeves. Hope this helps.
Regan of Gong - May 6, 2005 1:24 am (#2306 of 2930)
Well thora, On the "Rubbish Bin" page I can identify a Scotland World Cup Rugby ball (top left), a small red model of the knight bus (top right), a duplo racing car (bottom left), several scattered alphabet blocks and one of those things where you push the button on top to make the inside spin, (top left, very technical I know).
I'm pretty sure about the ball, blocks and knight bus, but please beg to differ on the duplo and the...spinny thing...yeah (Spinners End?)
skh - May 6, 2005 1:25 am (#2307 of 2930)
Thora - did some one not post at one time a long list of various words they tried? Apologies, I'm gonna have to pass the buck in terms of organising this hunt though, as am at work and having a training day so I won't be at my PC much today. Sarah
Kerrie-Louise - May 6, 2005 4:52 am (#2308 of 2930)
Just for interest I tried "Prince" and "Felix" - not orriginal I know but I wasn't sure if anyone had actually tried them yet. As you can guess they came to nothing! *sigh*
Cat 7 of 9 - May 6, 2005 12:09 pm (#2309 of 2930)
I will make a list of tried numbers/names( all being well ) over the weekend, my thanks go to Shannon and Kerrie for their help in getting me started.
Feel free to mention any others ... PLEASE
Joelle - May 6, 2005 12:38 pm (#2310 of 2930)
What about please?
It seems to make sense. -Jo
Thora - May 6, 2005 2:23 pm (#2311 of 2930)
Thanks Cat 7 of 9, I'm burried in mutiple projects at the moment, so I was worried no one would be up to making a list and we'd never do it. I think if we don't find anything we should keep the list and divide it up and then all check our section after updates. That would be the ideal thing I think.
Aqualu Nifey - May 6, 2005 4:40 pm (#2312 of 2930)
I was bored one day and tried: Half Blood Prince, Longbottom, Neville, Sirius Black (seperately and combined), Granger, James, and Lily. Didn't work.
Helen Potterfan - May 6, 2005 5:37 pm (#2313 of 2930)
I just tried desperate, bored, update, and crazy: no luck I'm still hoping for a big update on the anniversary of the site (the 15th). At least we'll get to see a GoF trailer tomorrow, and watch Harry for 4 hours!
Shannon aka Brammwell - May 6, 2005 9:19 pm (#2314 of 2930)
Cat 7 of 9/Thora - Went to the phone and tried the following without luck: 1. Dursley 2. Vernon 3. Petunia 4. Fudge 5. Azkaban (z=0) 6. Ministry 7. Hogwarts 8 Gryffon
So far only got Magic and Peeves to work!
Lina - May 7, 2005 4:14 am (#2315 of 2930)
You don't have to try any words longer than 8 letters because the phone doesn't accept more than 8 digits.
lkb - May 7, 2005 9:08 am (#2316 of 2930)
wow...this is really something else! I have to say I have told my entire family about this site, so much information to assimitate so little time huh?
Joanna S Lupin - May 7, 2005 9:57 am (#2317 of 2930)
Ugh, I can't enter the site it says that 'requested URL cannot be retrieved' anyone has any idea why it may be...?
Good Evans - May 7, 2005 12:17 pm (#2318 of 2930)
I remember trying:
harry, james, Ronald, Weasley, Potter, Burrow, Rowling, Murray, joanne, David, jessica, wizard, hogwarts.
also Magic and Peeves of course, these are the only two sweeties!!
Just in case anyone is trying to make that list!!!
Dumbledore - May 8, 2005 7:03 am (#2319 of 2930)
I think I'd like to jump in on this project. We can each get 20 words or so to try and see if any of them work.
vball man - May 8, 2005 10:36 am (#2320 of 2930)
Can't someone who knows Flash progarmming just look at the code? It should be obvious if there is anything else. No need to try numbers. If the site is programmed to respond to a number, it'll be in the code.
Shannon aka Brammwell - May 8, 2005 1:36 pm (#2321 of 2930)
I'm not computer "literate" enough to have a clue as to what flash programming is...sorry but it sounds much easier then my picking up a phone and trying to put words in.
It looks like we've covered just about all the characters and names; maybe it's time to try inputting some of the spells and charms?
Tomoé - May 8, 2005 8:05 pm (#2322 of 2930)
The problem with Flash is there a way to hide the coding so you need a hacker program to get the codes.
The guy who opened the door the first time had such a program and he gave the codes for the phone. There were three fonctions:
wrong number = !;
62442 = check mark;
62442 without reward in the scrapbook = reward.
So on May 2004, there was only one reward to get by using the phone.
Regan of Gong - May 9, 2005 2:11 am (#2323 of 2930)
I'm sure someone here would have a program like that, but come to think of it, wouldn't that take all the fun out of finding the eggs? Wouldn't it, all you who are being driven insane by nothing new...
Kerrie-Louise - May 9, 2005 4:44 am (#2324 of 2930)
"Insane" is a little strong, I would settle for "frustrated out of my mind!"
Madame Pomfrey - May 9, 2005 2:24 pm (#2325 of 2930)
Has anyone else noticed in the "links" room on the horizontal shelf to the left of Amnesty International there seems to be a vertical line?It appears to go down the shelving unit and is again more pronounced to the left of Fairy Tales.I wonder if this shelf will open up some time in the future to reveal something behind it.
GryffEndora - May 9, 2005 2:30 pm (#2326 of 2930)
I hadn't noticed it before you pointed it out Madame Pomfrey, but you are right the line is there and it does seem to go down the bookshelf. It is also on the shelf above Amnesty International but much less pronounced.
I keep thinking something will happen with the tacked up bookmark on the same page but so far nothing.
Madame Pomfrey - May 9, 2005 2:36 pm (#2327 of 2930)
Maybe there will be a button under there once peeves blows by to open up the shelf.Oh I wish,I'm so ready for updates.
Thora - May 9, 2005 5:44 pm (#2328 of 2930)
I'd like commend Madame Pomfrey on her excellent examination of the links page, but I found it two other places, below the cup and below the treasure chest (see advatar), so I'm afraid our hopes might be in vain.
Keep up the detail seeking, though!
So Sirius - May 9, 2005 7:11 pm (#2329 of 2930)
I'm not sure if it's just my impression or if the length of time that poll has been up is normal. When does the answer to the poll question generally come about, does anyone know? Perhaps it's just my impatience but it really seems like it's been quite long.
Madame Pomfrey - May 9, 2005 8:24 pm (#2330 of 2930)
Thora,I wished you hadn't noticed that.LoL.Oh well.Very Sirius I dont really keep up with the length of time in which the polls are answered.I think Tomoe does.Maybe she'll pop on soon.
Tomoé - May 9, 2005 10:58 pm (#2331 of 2930)
Yes, I do keep record of the updates and yes I pop on. ^_~
The Mark Evans question was there for 3 weeks before JKR answered.
We waited 6 weeks until the next question pool.
The Howler question took 11 weeks to be answered.
We waited 9 weeks until the next question pool.
We have been waiting for 21 weeks for an answer for the current pool.
Snuffles - May 10, 2005 2:28 am (#2332 of 2930)
21 Weeks!! Have we really been waiting that long? Well I think we all deserve a Butterbeer for being so patient, I'll pop to the 3 broomsticks right away and bring a tray back!
skh - May 10, 2005 3:01 am (#2333 of 2930)
I have to say, always thought that the bookmark would do something in future as well! Also, the medal box that you can move on the trophy page - I know that's where the gobstones were before, but should there not be another medal that we can put in there, sometime in the (hopefully not too distant!) future? Or did we have something with that already?
So Sirius - May 10, 2005 5:34 am (#2334 of 2930)
My goodness! Thank you Tomoe. I knew it was a long wait, but I didn't realize just how long. I wonder what the issue is with either the site or JKR?
Quidditch Mom - May 10, 2005 6:07 am (#2335 of 2930)
It could be an issue of JKR being a new mother AND trying to find the time to finish HBP. The website updates come in a ways down her priority list, I'm afraid.
Thora - May 10, 2005 7:21 am (#2336 of 2930)
I'm bettting we don't get a medal for the box that was hiding the moonstones, but the fact that the pen by the rubbish bin (the one that peeves breaks) makes a very distinct puzzle shape will always make me wonder if it's a clue.
So Sirius - May 10, 2005 8:12 am (#2337 of 2930)
Quidditch mom, but the book is done and there's probably a minute or two during the day where she can either jot something down quickly or relay it to someone who can. It really is a long time.
popkin - May 10, 2005 10:07 am (#2338 of 2930)
Other items I expect to lead to Easter eggs are the pen dangling from the string and the radio.
21 weeks is a very long time. I wonder if JKR regrets posting that poll, and just doesn't want to answer the question.
Ladybug220 - May 10, 2005 10:57 am (#2339 of 2930)
Thora, are you referring to the ink that stays around the pen rather than the stuff that leads to the picture of the potions ingredients?
Grant the Great - May 10, 2005 2:23 pm (#2340 of 2930)
I think that Thora is, Ladybug220. I also think that the pen in question is a clue, but only to make us think to break the other one for the potion ingredients.
I always found that stringed pen and bookmark odd as well.
Classicsquid592 - May 10, 2005 3:36 pm (#2341 of 2930)
There are two pens in the rubbish bin. You break one to get the ingredients, Peeves breaks the other one but it doesn't do anything other than make a mess. I think that is the pen Thora is referring to.
Ladybug220 - May 10, 2005 3:57 pm (#2342 of 2930)
Ok, thanks. I have never stayed on that page long enough to have Peeves break the other one.
Katelyn Black - May 10, 2005 7:25 pm (#2343 of 2930)
Hey, I just went on Jo's site and we have a golden butterfly. the last time that happened she updated with the news about her daughter. Could this mean an update. Hope so!
GryffEndora - May 10, 2005 7:41 pm (#2344 of 2930)
Katelyn Black, unfortunately that is not a golden butterfly. During the day there is a blue butterfly flying around her site but at night there is a green/gold moth that replaces it. I just went and checked and that is the night moth. It doesn't seem any different than it has before. I would love to be wrong however, and I hope you are right about something new soon.
Elfcat - May 11, 2005 10:13 am (#2345 of 2930)
Call me ignorant, but how long does it usually take for the doxy to show up?
Good Evans - May 11, 2005 10:15 am (#2346 of 2930)
it depends - quite often anything up to 15 mins. Sorry .....
Elfcat - May 11, 2005 10:20 am (#2347 of 2930)
Dang, it happened while I was reading this post!
Good Evans - May 11, 2005 10:24 am (#2348 of 2930)
LOL - rolling around - I am so sorry!! If you look back on this thread you will see some captured images from when we first started getting the doxy. You will have to go back quite a way but hopefully it will let you see what you missed.
John Bumbledore - May 11, 2005 12:08 pm (#2349 of 2930)
Here is a table of the numbers tried and a few untried. (0= not tried)
"# Text Number Tried"
"7 Granger 4 7 2 6 4 3 No"
"7 Griffon 4 7 4 3 3 6 No"
"7 Marvolo 6 2 7 8 6 5 No"
"8 Spinners 7 7 4 6 6 3 7 7 No"
"9 Voldemort 8 6 5 3 3 6 6 7 8 No"
"3 Hat 4 2 8 1"
"4 Half 4 2 5 3 Yes"
"4 Neil 6 3 4 5 Yes"
"5 Albus 2 5 2 8 7 Yes"
"5 Black 2 5 2 2 5 Yes"
"5 Blood 2 5 6 6 3 Yes"
"5 David 3 2 8 4 3 Yes"
"5 Draco 3 7 2 2 6 Yes"
"5 Felix 3 3 5 4 9 Yes"
"5 Fudge 3 8 3 4 3 Yes"
"5 Harry 4 2 7 7 9 Yes"
"5 James 5 2 6 3 7 Yes"
"5 Lupin 5 8 7 4 6 Yes"
"5 Magic 6 2 4 4 2 Yes"
"5 Snape 7 6 2 7 3 Yes"
"5 Squib 7 7 8 4 2 Yes"
"6 Burrow 2 8 7 7 6 9 Yes"
"6 Charms 2 4 2 7 6 7 Yes"
"6 Fawkes 3 2 9 5 3 7 Yes"
"# Text Number Tried"
"6 Joanne 5 6 2 6 6 3 Yes"
"6 Murray 6 8 7 7 2 9 Yes"
"6 Peeves 7 3 3 8 3 7 Yes"
"6 Potter 7 6 8 8 3 7 Yes"
"6 Prince 7 7 4 6 2 3 Yes"
"6 Riddle 7 4 3 3 5 3 Yes"
"6 Ronald 7 6 6 2 5 3 Yes"
"6 Sirius 7 4 7 4 8 7 Yes"
"6 Vernon 8 3 7 6 6 6 Yes"
"6 Wizard 9 4 9 2 7 3 Yes"
"7 Azkaban 2 9 5 2 2 2 6 Yes"
"7 Choices 2 4 6 4 2 3 7 Yes"
"7 Dursley 3 8 7 7 5 3 9 Yes"
"7 Gryffon 4 7 9 3 3 6 6 Yes"
"7 HPotter 4 7 6 8 8 3 7 Yes"
"7 Jessica 5 3 7 7 4 2 2 Yes"
"7 Petunia 7 3 8 8 6 4 2 Yes"
"7 Rowling 7 6 9 5 4 6 4 Yes"
"7 Weasley 9 3 2 7 5 3 9 Yes"
"8 Hermione 4 3 7 6 4 6 6 3 Yes"
"8 Hogwarts 4 6 4 9 2 7 8 7 Yes"
"8 Ministry 6 4 6 4 7 8 7 9 Yes"
"9 JKRowling 5 5 7 6 9 5 4 6 4 Yes"
"10 Dumbledore 3 8 6 2 5 3 3 6 7 3 Yes"
<)B^D= John Bumbledore
P. S. only Magic 6 2 4 4 2 and Peeves 7 3 3 8 3 7 have given treats.
GryffEndora - May 11, 2005 12:55 pm (#2350 of 2930)
Ok, so I went through the Lexicon encyclopedia of spells and tried all spells with 7 letters or less. I think I need to go back and try 8 & 9 letter ones but for now here's what I've tried. Also, so far all of these got a triangle with an !.
Accio, Avis, Crucio, Ferula, Finite, Imperio, Lumos, Nox, Pack, PointMe, Portus, Protego, Quietus, Reducio, Reducto, Reparo, Sonorus, Stupefy. I also tried Granger, Griffon, Marvolo, Spinners, Voldemort & Evans
Ann - May 11, 2005 3:50 pm (#2351 of 2930)
Shall we try potion ingredients and magical beasts next? This is really getting ridiculous.
I don't really think it's going to get us anywhere. "Magic" was a phone number to start with; "Peeves" we had a clue to (the phone number occurred as a phone number on her bulletin board). There are no other clues in the form of phone numbers, except the blurred one for Neil on the Rubbish page that's been tried in every conceivable combination. We've only had two rounds of Easter Eggs, and I don't think she'd have put two telephone numbers in a single round. I suspect that, if a new round of Easter Eggs are put up, there will be a clear indication that things have changed (like the marble in the second round).
But there may be no further Easter Eggs. Remember, we're the fanatics who keep going back to the site and expecting new stuff. Most people will probably happen onto the site, find a bunch of Easter Eggs, and then maybe visit it again if they read in the newspaper or hear on television that it's changed.
S.E. Jones - May 11, 2005 3:54 pm (#2352 of 2930)
I have to agree with Ann. We got a clue with the new number (Peeves) and we'll get yet another clue when a third number is put up....
Helen Potterfan - May 11, 2005 4:57 pm (#2353 of 2930)
Elfcat, My avatar is the doxy with the background removed. It can take quite a while to see it for youself. Best, Helen
Hollywand - May 11, 2005 6:06 pm (#2354 of 2930)
Maybe I'm a cynic, but I personally believe that an agent of Rowling's, if not Rowling herself, drops the original clue on the net when the site changes so her site doesn't get hacked to pieces.
Last year, I happened to be on Mugglenet when the door opened the first time. Someone named "Nancy Drew" showed up and took the group through the door , showed the bricks to hit right away.
Perhaps she's playing a game of Hangman with us, or, perhaps we won't get any more clues until the book is released. Personally, that's jake with me.
Tomoé - May 11, 2005 8:16 pm (#2355 of 2930)
Anyway: if you continue to exercise patience, you will find that the Do Not Disturb Door opens again… and again… giving you further hints about book six. (jkrowling.com)
Jo said that after the HbP title was revealed, it sound like we should have two other opening of the door before July 16th.
Maybe somewhere in June and somewhere in July.
Edit: Oh sorry if I get anyone excited over the first part of my post, I should have consulted my own excel file before saying wrong stuff. The Half-blood Prince title was the award of the second opening of the door and two came after. So likely there won't be anymore opening before book 7 is almost finished. (I also shouldn't post when I know I'm overdue to bed ...)
T Brightwater - May 12, 2005 5:39 am (#2356 of 2930)
It has not been 21 weeks since the last update. The Rumors and FAQ sections were updated April 6. Also, in answer to the FAQ question "Have you started writing Book 7 yet?" she specifically said she was going to take a little time out for her family.
"All lies in a passion of patience..."
(Charles L. Williams, _Taliessin Through Logres_)
Tomoé - May 12, 2005 5:57 am (#2357 of 2930)
You right T, it has been 21 weeks since the current pool was presented, not since we get an update.
John Bumbledore - May 12, 2005 8:52 am (#2358 of 2930)
Ann, "Shall we try potion ingredients and magical beasts next? This is really getting ridiculous."
Yep, that is why it is called a "brute force" method of testing (in computer science terminology). I would prefer a more elegant solution (reverse engineering of the Flash program, though more direct is not elegant.) but we do what me can or have the tools to use.
So, this is just testing to see if we (all us fanatics) have missed a clue with a name or numeric string that may have activated the phone. I suppose, I should stop reading "The Da Vinci Code" while I'm waiting for a site Update.. but I did noticed that "Nicolas Famel" is listed as one of the previous Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion.
So, I'm thinking of scowering Jo's site for references to works by other authors. A "tangled web" investigation, though likely to produce mostly dead-ends.
<)B^D= John Bumbledore
P. S. There is at least one other reference (or appearance of an item or name) to Jo's work in "The Da Vinci Code." And it is part of every title in her series. I laughed when I saw one of Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code" characters ask if "Harry Potter is about the Holy Grail?"
Aurora Gubbins - May 12, 2005 2:34 pm (#2359 of 2930)
I noticed something a few days ago, after watching PoA again. Early in the film, Dumbledore says "When all around is darkness...one just has to remember to turn on the light." At the beginning of the same film, we see Harry practising his Lumos spell. On Jo's website, there are three switches, each of which operates a light; one on the desktop, one on the wall next to the Room of Requirement and one on the radio. At Christmas we saw the lights of the Christmas tree shining through the doorway at the end of the corridor. Moths, as we all know, hide away in daylight and are drawn to the light of a bulb.
I hope that light is one of the keys to the story. Dumbledore's comment about remembering to turn on the light is, perhaps, another way of saying that even in the most desperate times, when things seem hopelessly lost, the simplest solution is often the best or even the only way.
The lights have been glaring us in the face ever since the site opened and few of us seem to have taken any notice.
Just a thought... Aurora xx
pottermom34 - May 12, 2005 4:27 pm (#2360 of 2930)
John Bumbledore, good list I noticed the word Muggle is not on it, but I've tried it and it doesn't work.
S.E. Jones - May 12, 2005 4:43 pm (#2361 of 2930)
I somehow doubt that, with all the fans out there, we missed a clue that unlocks yet another phone number. I think, when she does put a new phone number up, there will be a clue, and there will be those fans who see that clue, figure out the number, and post something to either MuggleNet or The Leaky Cauldron. As yet, though, there have been no clues to indicate another number will work.
Tomoé - May 12, 2005 6:57 pm (#2362 of 2930)
there will be those fans who see that clue, figure out the number, and post something to either MuggleNet or The Leaky Cauldron.
Have you so little faith in us? (just kidding ^_~)
riotgrrrl - May 12, 2005 8:18 pm (#2363 of 2930)
Aurora- I've noticed the lights before and tried going through all of the rooms and trying every combination and even some of the numbers with the lights on and off and nothing was different but you are right, it may be a clue. On a different note, I began re reading the books a few days ago and I think that it is really interesting how you can see her writing style mature. I was wondering if anyone believes if she left some of the explanations out in the earlier books so she would have a way to go back and add information later and keep the interest of the reader, or had she not yet developed the same style that she has now? By the looks of her desk on the site, it looks like she plans everything out beforehand, but I think that it may take longer to write the books because she has to fully develop how everything will tie into the ending (since us fans are so critical of any mistakes and try to find the inconsistancies, not that we do this in purpose, but no wonder it takes so long to develop the stories).
Miriam Huber - May 13, 2005 1:38 am (#2364 of 2930)
Hey, wake up! UPDATES!!! First to post!!! HA!
dizzy lizzy - May 13, 2005 1:59 am (#2365 of 2930)
Yes there are some great updates in this lot. Won't say more - enjoy your surprise ))
skh - May 13, 2005 2:26 am (#2366 of 2930)
Hurray, updates! Should've guessed, what better day to update than Friday 13th! Lucky for some - HP fans!
Regan of Gong - May 13, 2005 3:35 am (#2367 of 2930)
UPDATES UPDATES UPDATES...check it. Background info on books, etc etc.
Ms Amanda - May 13, 2005 3:49 am (#2368 of 2930)
Edited by May 13, 2005 4:21 am
Yippie! I knew there was a reason to wake up early this morning!
Edit: Ladybug, that isn't the only thing that hasn't changed that I surely thought would be. I guess Felix is here to stay this month.
Ladybug220 - May 13, 2005 4:11 am (#2369 of 2930)
Edited by May 13, 2005 4:14 am
Glad I checked email this morning as it made me check JKR's website. Woohoo!!! Updates finally - Thanks Jo!!!!!!
Edit: I had hoped that something would be answered but alas, not yet...
Magical Max - May 13, 2005 4:28 am (#2370 of 2930)
I have a sneaky suspicion that Jo hasn't answered the poll because Book 6 will answer it for her and she doesn't want to spoil the surprise. (sigh) 2 months to go... Boy, am I glad the book comes out on a Saturday in Australia. I won't be getting any sleep Sat. night until I finish the last chapter. ( And with OoTP that wsa 3 AM !)
Fawkes Forever - May 13, 2005 4:36 am (#2371 of 2930)
John Bumbledore... looks like she addresses the query over Flamel & The Da Vinci code
Catherine - May 13, 2005 4:49 am (#2372 of 2930)
I laughed when I read the Rumour section; I never saw that particular rumor before about Luna and her parentage.
The information on Veritaserum should answer some of the debates we've had.
Madame Pomfrey - May 13, 2005 5:26 am (#2373 of 2930)
And it also looks like a pureblood could even be the HBP since they simply cross out the undesirables in the family tree.
ruthlesspenguin - May 13, 2005 5:38 am (#2374 of 2930)
The latest updates to the FAQ were really great; half of them relate directly to discussions I have been reading on the forum in the past week or so. Excellent timing Jo!
The announcement in the news section has created a real dilema for me. I'll now have to rethink my plans for 7.01am (0.01am UK time) on the 16th. Do I queue up at 4am as planned to ensure I am first in line, or find somewhere with satelite TV and head to the bookshop a bit later?
Tomoé - May 13, 2005 7:14 am (#2375 of 2930)
Thanks for the update Jo! I didn't expect anything that soon, Mackenzie's mom is getting better then. ^_^
No Lexicon/Mugglenet questions answered this time, this make me believe will get the answers in HbP. The remaining questions are:
What are the first names of Sinistra, Vector, Sprout, Quirrell, and Hooch? What houses were they in?
Who teaches Ancient Runes and Muggle Studies? Are there other teachers and subjects that we haven't heard about yet?
How many students are there really at Hogwarts? You said 1000 once, but that doesn't really work out very well with information elsewhere in the books. Do you have a better explanation for us?
How old are Molly and Arthur Weasley? (Thanks for letting us know that Lucius is 41, by the way. We wondered.)
What house was Myrtle in? What was/is her last name?
Are there other Gryffindors in Harry's year besides the ones we've met in the books?
Was James a Chaser, as you said in an interview at one point, or a Seeker? Or did he play both positions?
In fifth year, some students are made Prefects. Are there sixth year and seventh year Prefects as well? Are they simply the same kids or are there new Prefects chosen each year? (We're resisting the urge to ask how James became Head Boy if he was't made a Prefect in fifth year).
How old are Mad-Eye Moody and Tonks and what houses were they in?
Is there a living heir of Gryffindor? The books only mention an heir of Slytherin. What about Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff?
I've never heard of the Snape is Lune's father anywhere, it's strange how humain brain works sometimes. O.o
jose043 - May 13, 2005 7:16 am (#2376 of 2930)
I agree it is great to get the up dates on so many things hope you all liked them.
Grindylow - May 13, 2005 7:23 am (#2377 of 2930)
When I saw so many posts, I RAN directly to her site to check it out. The first thing I checked was the ROR....nothing. Then on to the FAQ for the poll question....ALAS...earwax. Then on to the fan site and so on....
I never checked the actual FAQs until I kept reading on here that there were GREAT updates...
Thank you JO! I can't wait to get HBP in my HANDS!!!
skh - May 13, 2005 8:03 am (#2378 of 2930)
Oh, am a nasty person... I still wish there was either a new egg or the lack of a "do not disturb" sign on the door of RoR....
Off to iron me ears now...
Ydnam96 - May 13, 2005 8:11 am (#2379 of 2930)
So jealous of Emerson and Melissa! But good for them.
It's so sad though, we've been waiting for months and months for an update and it took me a whole of 7 minutes to read through every inch of her website. I should have read more slowly.
Thank you JO!
azi - May 13, 2005 8:11 am (#2380 of 2930)
Hmm, anyone noticed JKR said (in white so not spoiler) Snape does not have a daughter. She doesn't say he doesn't have a son though...I think that's interesting!
KWeldon - May 13, 2005 8:42 am (#2381 of 2930)
Just so I'm clear, the Rumours section and FAQ section were the only ones updated, right?
Thanks so much, Jo! Hope your family is doing well!
Grindylow - May 13, 2005 8:45 am (#2382 of 2930)
KWeldon....she picked a new Fan Site too.
KWeldon - May 13, 2005 8:57 am (#2383 of 2930)
Yes, I saw that. Congratulations to TLC, although quite frankly I thought they had already received the award.
Aurora Gubbins - May 13, 2005 9:06 am (#2384 of 2930)
Azi: I won't repeat your spoiler (post #2380) but I spotted that one too. I immediately thought it could be a hint to a 'dark' secret!
GryffEndora - May 13, 2005 9:08 am (#2385 of 2930)
Jo - Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Thank You So Much for remembering us and giving us a few more tid-bits to chew on before HBP comes out. We're always ravenous and it's nice to have some new treats from you!
I'm so happy for TLC! Now that's 2 sites in the Floo Network with the FSA! The Lexicon and Leaky!
Ok, I'm giddy! I love new info!
Kwikspell - May 13, 2005 9:31 am (#2386 of 2930)
azi and Aurora,
I thought the same thing when I read that answer. It might just be that JKR's so used to not revealing any additional information that she says as little as possible when answering questions. Sometimes she sounds she's been prepped for trial by a whole horde of attorneys!
And thanks for taking the time to whet our appetites, Jo. We appreciate it!
Gina R Snape - May 13, 2005 9:35 am (#2387 of 2930)
Waaaaiiiiit!!!! Where was the information on Snape posted? I didn't see it.
Tomoé - May 13, 2005 9:53 am (#2388 of 2930)
In the rumours section Gina. ^_^
Gina R Snape - May 13, 2005 10:06 am (#2389 of 2930)
Ah, I got it. Well at least there's nothing about his marital status.
John Bumbledore - May 13, 2005 10:28 am (#2390 of 2930)
Oh, I wish I had time to take screen caps again. I didn't notice any new graphic/image elements to the site, but neither did I try to move or click any of the old static items (that have been mentioned as "late" to be drawn).
I too am thankful for the updates, and also heartened to find others have been asking about Famel. So both Jo and Dan dredged up Nicolas from "noted names in history." But what of "the Harry Potter Sensation" being noted in other author's works? Oh, maybe she answered that in one of her interviews.
Alas, I am out of time. I'll check back Monday to see how others have scowered Jo's site for changes.
<)B^D= John Bumbledore
KWeldon - May 13, 2005 10:37 am (#2391 of 2930)
I'd bet money that JKR answered the Snape question using those specific words to leave Potterheads like us room to ponder the other alternative.
Her-melanie - May 13, 2005 10:51 am (#2392 of 2930)
She must have been feeling just a teeny bit guilty for leaving us in the lurch for so long. STILL no FAQ poll answer...ah well, we can't have everything. THANKS JO!!!!!!! **lets out months-long breath**
Betelgeuse Black - May 13, 2005 11:12 am (#2393 of 2930)
Thanks for the updates, Jo.
Gina, I thought Snape's marital status was a given. After all, you are named Gina R. Snape! :-)
Thora - May 13, 2005 11:16 am (#2394 of 2930)
Well this is heartening, yet another instance of us getting down to the dirty work and her rewarding us with an update (or at least we were passing the time without all the moaning anymore).
Gina R Snape - May 13, 2005 12:12 pm (#2395 of 2930)
Yes, Betelgeuse. Well you know how JKR messes up now and again...
I was very interested in the veritaserum thing. It did seem like 'too easy' a solution (no pun intended) not to have possible defences against it.
Stringer - May 13, 2005 12:32 pm (#2396 of 2930)
Updates! HOORAY!! Thank you JO!!!!!! Congrats to Emerson and Melissa. Finally interviews done by those who LOVE the series!
Elanor - May 13, 2005 12:51 pm (#2397 of 2930)
Edited May 13, 2005 1:25 pm
Thank you so much Jo!!!! An update is the most effective cheering charm that I know! I was searching something on the school computer, between marking huge piles of notebooks, when I saw about the update. Oh my! Consequence 1: ---> (still on my face since midday here!) Consequence 2 : my pupils should thank Jo too because I think I was far more lenient while grading afterwards!
The veritaserum information is indeed very interesting and the Snape one very puzzling... It is so great for TLC! I can't wait to read the interview Melissa and Emerson will do, at last an interview done by people who'll know THE questions to ask!
Thanks again Jo!!!!
Lina - May 13, 2005 2:00 pm (#2398 of 2930)
I went to the JKR site this morning and I saw nothing. Than I came to the Forum and found out about the update. There are two possibilities: either the update happened a little after I checked (less probable), either I was just looking for the FAQ pool answer and I didn't notice anything else (more probable). I just find it too frustrating: there have been several updates on the site since the last FAQ pool. I can handle some, but she added two series of answers on FAQ and hadn't answered the pool question!
John Fallon : I have a sneaky suspicion that Jo hasn't answered the poll because Book 6 will answer it for her and she doesn't want to spoil the surprise. (sigh) 2 months to go...
Well, she could have given us this answer: Sorry, I can't tell you, you will have to wait for the HBP! That would be good enough for me. Than she could leave this answer for a month and move to the next pool avoiding the spoiler for some time after the book comes out. I just expect some answer! BTW, have you noticed that the previous pool question hadn't been moved to the regular FAQs?
I am sorry if I sound ungrateful. I too like the answers we've got, especially the one about the Veritaserum, it is just so convincing. I'm just still frustrated nevertheless the update.
Aqualu Nifey - May 13, 2005 9:32 pm (#2399 of 2930)
Come on, Lina. Don't you think she'll answer that question and 50 million other questions at the press conference? Wait... that is going to be posted, right? Right? I hope the entire conference is going to be on the site first thing in the morning. No, no, as soon as the words come out of their mouths, I want it going directly onto the web site! I'm so excited about the whole doo-hicky and I'm not even going. Which is NOT my fault, by the way. I went to the Bloomsbury web site just like she said and had almost finished filling out the form, feeling entirely happy that I am between the ages of 8 and 16, until I looked at it and realized that I have to live in the UK or Ireland to go. I looked at jkrowling.com again and it said just about every predominantely English speaking country except the US. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please let it go directly to the website, pleeeaaaase!!!!!!!!!!
PS Please forgive the long and rambling nature of my post. I'm really, really, super excited about it all.
Lina - May 14, 2005 1:31 am (#2400 of 2930)
Hey, Aqualu Nifey, I wouldn't go that far! I'm not expecting JKR to be the real witch, I know there is some time needed to put the conference on the web. I just want such a little thing: the pool question answered...
Miriam Huber - May 14, 2005 3:40 am (#2401 of 2930)
I don´t understand what happened (or rather: didn´t happen) to the poll, either. If, as one might suggest, answering the question would have given away too much, why did she choose it in the first place?
T Brightwater - May 14, 2005 7:45 am (#2402 of 2930)
It's possible that at the time she chose the poll questions, none of the answers would have given away anything significant, but as HBP neared completion she realized that there was some implication in the answer to the question about Neville that would be a spoiler.
Or maybe she doesn't think we'll like the answer and she doesn't want to go to Bolivia again. :-)
Anyway, thanks, Jo! Of course, what we're most looking forward to is the major update on July 16!
Tomoé - May 14, 2005 7:56 am (#2403 of 2930)
Why did she choose it in the first place, especially since the two others were already answered (or almost answered). She said Ron will have a girl friend in a interview and the American deluxe edition have 32 frontispieces (32 chapters are very likely). Well, it doesn't matter much anyway, we'll get loads of answer in 62 days. ^_^
Aqualu, you should call/write/e-mail Schoolastic and tell them how indignated you are that Americans are the only citizen of predominantly English speaking country that can't participate to the contest. Stay polite, but be clear you'll boycut Scholastic in the future via amazon.ca if it's not corrected (which don't have to be true ^_~).
Dumbledore - May 14, 2005 8:04 am (#2404 of 2930)
I agree, Aqualu, I was extremely disappointed that Americans were not allowed to enter. It would be the chance of a lifetime for me if I could get to go, and we would know all the right questions to ask, but alas, earwax, we're American.
Lina - May 14, 2005 9:06 am (#2405 of 2930)
Well, maybe she plans some special surprize for the American kids? Of course, it is not possible for it to happen at the same weekend unless they organize a video conference? Hmm, I would like to offer the video conference room at my faculty... ***dreaming***
Tomoé - May 14, 2005 11:16 am (#2406 of 2930)
I believe this contest works through Bloomsbury's network, Americans are not part of it because it would complicate the logistic a lot.
But I perfectly undestand your feelings, I felt the same way last year when Warner Bros made their contest for the week of interviews in Britain, there was 1 trip for an American, 1 trip for a Japanese and 1 trip for either a Canadian or an American (both pool were to be fused). Like there was a fair chance for a Canadian to win! (I was too old to participate anyway, you would said? I put my cousin once removed's name, you never it could have worked even if she's a Canadian ^_^)
Aurora Gubbins - May 14, 2005 2:45 pm (#2407 of 2930)
I think they want to make sure that whoever was chosen to attend would definitely absolutely certainly be there, remembering Edinburgh there were a few seats unused because some failed to turn up, meaning that the next few on the list lost out in the worst way because of a load of 'No-shows' - how bad is THAT luck?
Not that our cousins over the Pond couldn't be bothered or anything - there's just no guarantee that one could get here in good time because of planes, trains etc. You know how it is.
I'm hoping to see the event on Sky News or BBC Newsround or something. I won't be there as I'm a little overage!
Her-melanie - May 14, 2005 3:30 pm (#2408 of 2930)
Aurora, I think Canadians are included. So that let's out the pond theory. I agree that it might have something to do with the publishing house, Bloomsbury. Is that who publishes the books in Canada?
dizzy lizzy - May 14, 2005 3:47 pm (#2409 of 2930)
As far as I am aware; Scholastic has US publishing rights and Bloomsbury has the rest of the world. Bloomsbury obviously contracts out to other publishing houses (or its related companies) the right to print the book in each country.
I would guess there were too much legal bits and pieces to jump to get the US readers in on the competition.
Perhaps scholastic has something planned for its US readers.
Neville Longbottom - May 14, 2005 4:43 pm (#2410 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Pomona Sprout.
GryffEndora - May 14, 2005 4:59 pm (#2411 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Prof. Sprout!
Tomoé - May 14, 2005 5:06 pm (#2412 of 2930)
Happy Birthday, Professor Pomona Sprout!
And yes we have the Bloomsbury version in Canada, printed and distributed by Raincoast.
Helen Potterfan - May 14, 2005 9:50 pm (#2413 of 2930)
Well, Tomoé, we have one more Lexicon/TLC question answered--I would never have thought of Pomona, but it's quite appropriate.
In Roman mythology, Pomona was the goddess of fruit trees. She scorned the love of Silvanus and Picus but married Vertumnus after he tricked her, disguised as an old woman. Her high priest was called the flamen Pomonalis. The pruning knife was her attribute.
I suppose the first names of the other teachers will appear on birthday greetings as well!
I would still like to have the poll question answered, and I was really hoping for something big (either the ROR door opening or a new batch of Easter Eggs) on the anniversary of the site, but maybe something else will be posted today. I am grateful for the updates we did get!! Congrats to TLC!!
Good Evans - May 15, 2005 1:50 am (#2414 of 2930)
On the discrimination of not letting Americans enter the competition for the Edinburgh prize, Personlly I am more miffed about being very able to get to Edinburgh, but alas, being a bit too old to enter!! So being British does not necessarily take away the discriminiation, nor miffiness!!!!! ........ seriously if any of the lexicon members are young enough to enter and do win, I will be delighted as we may get some very good questions answered,(perhaps we should compile a list in case any of our members are so fortunate) but then again, is she going to give away too much?
Regan of Gong - May 15, 2005 3:19 am (#2415 of 2930)
At the moment Good Evans, I am desperately searching the major newspapers for Australia on the web for any detail of a competition to become one of the reporters. Luckily I get the Herald delivered to my school, so hopefully I'll find something during the week. Give us a hand if you find any information in any other papers all you Aussies out there!!!
Good Evans - May 15, 2005 7:33 am (#2416 of 2930)
well best of luck to you Regan, fingers crossed!!
prof sprout - May 15, 2005 2:12 pm (#2417 of 2930)
Wow, I finally found out my first name. ) And she is a Taurus like me also, (my real birthday was May 11th)
Johninboro - May 15, 2005 4:12 pm (#2418 of 2930)
This is strange, I was on jkrowling.co.uk site at 23:59 tonight (UK Time) when the mobile phone started to ring, so I clicked on the green answer button and a voice said hello. So I said hello back through my mic and the voice replied, "hi, how are you tonight" I said fine thanks, who are you? then the site froze and i had to reboot. SO......make sure u set your flash settings to allow the mic and camera on your pc to work, just right click on the site and select settings. There must be a 2 way conversation thing on the site that allows someone to communicate with you. If that was JK Rowling I spoke to, then I think I will faint.
riotgrrrl - May 15, 2005 4:33 pm (#2419 of 2930)
Someone else had posted a similar happening a while back but could not get it to happen again.
GryffEndora - May 15, 2005 6:26 pm (#2420 of 2930)
Regan of Gong - The Leaky Cauldron has info on the contest entry process for each country here. Hope this works! It's under the title Worldwide HBP Release Party Contests.
skh - May 16, 2005 2:22 am (#2421 of 2930)
I think Mugglenet is also collating the papers that will be involved in the competition.
riotgrrrl - May 16, 2005 9:14 am (#2422 of 2930)
Yea, the poll was answered!!!
Ainsley Black - May 16, 2005 9:19 am (#2423 of 2930)
YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!!!
azi - May 16, 2005 9:19 am (#2424 of 2930)
Wow! What an amazing answer! I like it. Extremely interesting.
Miriam Huber - May 16, 2005 9:38 am (#2425 of 2930)
Oh my, how am I going to get this piece of toast out of my throat? Choked SO hard when I saw your posts... and wow! Gone to the prophecy thread to discuss!
Annika - May 16, 2005 9:58 am (#2426 of 2930)
The Poll was answered, the poll was answered, the poll was answered!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, interesting wording in her answer indeed. I love how she answers one question, but insights 100 more.
KWeldon - May 16, 2005 9:59 am (#2427 of 2930)
Re the poll answer: I'm so confused!!!!!!!!
That is, what is she specifically saying here?:
"If neither boy was 'pre-ordained' before Voldemort's attack to become his possible vanquisher, then the prophecy (like the one the witches make to Macbeth, if anyone has read the play of the same name) becomes the catalyst for a situation that would never have occurred if it had not been made. Harry is propelled into a terrifying position he might never have sought, while Neville remains the tantalising 'might-have-been'."
Annika - May 16, 2005 10:22 am (#2428 of 2930)
She is speaking of the "self forfilling prophecy." The prophecy itself incited the action that followed its utterance. (I would say more, but I want to wait so as not to spoil it for any who have not made it to JKRs site.)
GryffEndora - May 16, 2005 10:28 am (#2429 of 2930)
Thank You Jo for this wonderful answer!!!
KWeldon - I think she is saying (my interpretation in white) that the coming birth of Harry the "Chosen One", the One with the power to vanquish the dark lord is what triggered the prophesy. NOT that the making of the prophesy triggered a Chosen One to be picked. Harry has a destiny and that destiny used a prophesy as an impetus for LV to mark Harry and imbue him with power and mark him as LVs equal. The power then is in the hands of destiny, not in the hands of prophesy. In a chicken or the egg relationship, Harry's coming triggered the prophesy, she is telling us which came first Harry's Destiny or The Prophesy and the answer is Harry's Destiny.
*edit: Very Sirius - that is a quote from OotP where DD is talking directly to Harry hence the "you" instead of "him".
So Sirius - May 16, 2005 10:29 am (#2430 of 2930)
Yay! Finally. I'm hoping someone can explain this to me. Was it just a mistake or wording, instead of "you" to be "him" or is this just going over my head?
'He [the eavesdropper] only heard the beginning, the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort. Consequently, he could not warn his master that to attack you would be to risk transferring power to you.'
As for the answer to the poll. Most of it is really stuff we already new. Voldemort attacked Harry, not Neville and thus transferred his powers to him, making him an equal and choosing his rival. Again, is it me or did we just get a more defined explanation to what we already knew?
Although what she did add, is that Harrys mother dying for Harry is what protected him. When she mentioned that IF Nevilles mother did the same for Neville, the curse would have rebounded exactly the same, thus making Neville the "chosen one."
KWeldon - May 16, 2005 10:33 am (#2431 of 2930)
Thanks, Gryffindora. I don't doubt your interpretation, but it seems bizarre and contrary to all we had been led to believe, right?
So Sirius - May 16, 2005 10:36 am (#2432 of 2930)
Ah, thank you Gryffindora.
Mare - May 16, 2005 10:42 am (#2433 of 2930)
Very Sirius, I think she has given us some interesting new information. Namely that it is not all prophecy and scar that made Harry. It was his characteristics, his talents, his courage and history too.
I must say I am little dissapointed about Neville not tying in with the prophecy anymore, however I am fully confident that he will show his true colours, and it will be just him and his inner strength (no prophecy's or new wands can help that!).
And we know that Harry will do a lot of thinking and pondering about the prophecy in book 6. I hope it will bring him to reach out for Neville a bit more. (I'm a Neville fan... you might have noticed that by now.. )
PS Gryffendora, I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. I'll ponder about that one some more..
Edit: \/ -- I do agree with that post though! I am particularly very happy that Harry had the potential to be strong enough to defeat Voldemort without Voldemorts added powers, because he has his abbility to cope with problems, his friends and a little luck...
Edit: why o why doesn't have my keyboard a "down" arrow?
GryffEndora - May 16, 2005 10:43 am (#2434 of 2930)
Still don't know if this discussion is a spoiler for anyone who hasn't read the FAQ question so I'll keep my response in white. KWeldon - If you've ever read or seen "MacBeth" you can see how prophesy as a catalyst with no direction behind it can have tragic consequences. Personally I am much happier knowing that Harry would have been the Chosen One with or with out Sybill Trelawney and that Neville can go about being a normal wizarding boy, even with a tragic past. I've often thought while reading many theories about the prophesy that simply saying that making a prophesy causes the results to occur seems like a real cop-out. The beauty of the way that Destiny used Sybill's prophesy caused LV to make a choice that has effected not only himself and Harry but the entire wizarding world. Again the power ends up in the CHOICE not in the destiny.
Annika - May 16, 2005 10:50 am (#2435 of 2930)
This is what struck me most about the answer. She is so careful about her wording, so I wonder if this is a clue or a red herring:
(I don't know how to use invisible text, so I am just deleting the word of importance from the sentence below.)
"So where does this leave Neville, the boy that was so nearly ____________ ?"
pottermom34 - May 16, 2005 10:53 am (#2436 of 2930)
the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort.
If you think about the July part it more specifically says as the seventh month dies,. Neville was born the 30th and Harry the 31st. The month of July dies on the 31st. In my opinion, that right there tells us it applies to Harry.
The Artful Dodger - May 16, 2005 10:57 am (#2437 of 2930)
Annika, I stumbled across that sentence, too. If Neville (rest in white) was so close to becoming King, is he a Prince now?? Just a thought that crossed my mind, I don't know what to think of it...
Annika - May 16, 2005 10:58 am (#2438 of 2930)
Artful Dodger, That is exactly the thought that crossed my mind!
KWeldon - May 16, 2005 11:00 am (#2439 of 2930)
I thought it was a strange word, too.
Gryffindora, thank you for your explanation. I guess I'm just dense!
Steve Newton - May 16, 2005 11:05 am (#2440 of 2930)
Artful, you asked the question I was wondering about.
GryffEndora - May 16, 2005 11:06 am (#2441 of 2930)
Artful, great point!
KWeldon - you are not dense!
Mare - May 16, 2005 11:08 am (#2442 of 2930)
I think she just put that word there to give us something to dicuss. She is looking at all the fansites going insane with discussions now and is sitting there with a cup of tea behind her computer having a good evening reading. Guess it beats watching soaps!
Well I don't mind, in fact I hate it when she shoots theories down, we need them to do something while we wait! So the more meaning her words can have, the better. Cheers Jo!
So Sirius - May 16, 2005 11:44 am (#2443 of 2930)
I saw that too. When she said that line about King, my thoughts were on Neville being a prince, but then I quickly tossed it from my mind, thinking no way. But I read it again and it's getting to me in a big way. I think she's giving us a big clue there. Especially after letting us know that no wizards today are really pure blood. I have been saying that Draco will be the HBP because of that for some time now, but after this, I might have to rethink my theory.
Mare, what I meant was that, in my opinion she reiterated things that we mostly knew, regarding the prophecy. She cleared them up, or defined them.
KWeldon - May 16, 2005 11:52 am (#2444 of 2930)
Well, if Neville is the King, then is Trevor the Prince??????
Eponine - May 16, 2005 12:35 pm (#2445 of 2930)
There's one new question on the Rumors page that's related to the FAQ poll. (It's under the Luna question)
GryffEndora - May 16, 2005 12:39 pm (#2446 of 2930)
septentrion - May 16, 2005 12:45 pm (#2447 of 2930)
Marè : Guess it beats watching soaps!
it even beat Star wars ep II currently aired on French channel...
Springtime - May 16, 2005 1:14 pm (#2448 of 2930)
Thank you JO for giving us the answer to the poll question. It leaves us lots to talk about.
I agree that the possiblity of Neville being the HBP is very highly.
Mare - May 16, 2005 1:53 pm (#2449 of 2930)
Edited May 16, 2005 2:28 pm
it even beat Star wars ep II currently aired on French channel...
They aired that eppie here last week, I missed it but my parents were going to tape it.
Unfortunately the VCR wasn't programmed correctly....
I know it is not too good but I've never seen it before and i think it is handy to see it before part 3.
And Very Sirius, yes you are right, but I still think that a LOT of theories got shot down tonight... Which means her new information still has a large impact.
Joanna S Lupin - May 16, 2005 2:09 pm (#2450 of 2930)
Argh! I can't open the site again! That's so frustrating!
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