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Edit: That's an interesting little story you chose to feature Mona. I had a vague memory of it, but it was good to re-read. I agree that the personalities of the three sisters came across quite nicely in the dialogue, and although Bella and Cissy only featured in the first part of the story, it was a natural exit for them. I can just imagine us posting away and someone introducing the idea of the strange source of the noise. Most of us would have been racking our brains wondering what on earth it could be, but one poster came up with the perfect explanation, which fitted in so neatly with the rest of the storyline you would think it had been planned that way all along. Of course we know that is never the case! Great choice Mona.
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Edit: That's an interesting little story you chose to feature Mona. I had a vague memory of it, but it was good to re-read. I agree that the personalities of the three sisters came across quite nicely in the dialogue, and although Bella and Cissy only featured in the first part of the story, it was a natural exit for them. I can just imagine us posting away and someone introducing the idea of the strange source of the noise. Most of us would have been racking our brains wondering what on earth it could be, but one poster came up with the perfect explanation, which fitted in so neatly with the rest of the storyline you would think it had been planned that way all along. Of course we know that is never the case! Great choice Mona.
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EDIT: 'FSOTW' #3 - Mona, it's fitting that you chose a relatively short story as we near the end of this thread, Volume XV, since 'Lost and Found' was a volume-ending story, with a limited number of posts. That accounts for its relative brevity. I. too, have a vague recollection of this story and wish I could remember who had the idea for the source of the ticking noise... I do remember that I came up with the house-elf's name, as well as the wee pet bird's.
I think the different personalities of the three Black sisters is firmly established, quite quickly, as Verity said, through dialogue, and while it would have been quite fun to hear more of what Cissy and Bella had to say, their exit from the story makes complete sense in the context of the story: neither of the two are very helpful sorts, and wouldn't be bothered about trying to make Regulus feel better, at least to my way of thinking. They might have made a reappearance at the end of the story if it could've been longer, but all in all, we got a peek into the life of the Black sisters that was quite entertaining and even quite plausible. I think writing a longer story about the three, including some interaction with their mother and aunt, would really present us with lots of opportunities to flex our creative writing muscles.
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EDIT: 'FSOTW' #3 - Mona, it's fitting that you chose a relatively short story as we near the end of this thread, Volume XV, since 'Lost and Found' was a volume-ending story, with a limited number of posts. That accounts for its relative brevity. I. too, have a vague recollection of this story and wish I could remember who had the idea for the source of the ticking noise... I do remember that I came up with the house-elf's name, as well as the wee pet bird's.
I think the different personalities of the three Black sisters is firmly established, quite quickly, as Verity said, through dialogue, and while it would have been quite fun to hear more of what Cissy and Bella had to say, their exit from the story makes complete sense in the context of the story: neither of the two are very helpful sorts, and wouldn't be bothered about trying to make Regulus feel better, at least to my way of thinking. They might have made a reappearance at the end of the story if it could've been longer, but all in all, we got a peek into the life of the Black sisters that was quite entertaining and even quite plausible. I think writing a longer story about the three, including some interaction with their mother and aunt, would really present us with lots of opportunities to flex our creative writing muscles.
EDIT 2: Mona, thanks for your comments about the report I sent.
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'Featured Story of the Week' Comments for Story #81, Volume VII,
Potty Five Words: "Lost and Found"
This story was featured during the writing of Story #140. It was the 3rd 'Featured Story of the Week'. All times listed are EST.
- Mona, Sept 23, 2011 9:44 am: I chose this story more or less at random. I thought it was short and satisfying. The sentences flow well, and the personalities of the three girls come out well in the dialogue. While it doesn't have those brilliant touches that pop up in quite a few of our stories, neither does it have the dragging parts that also pop up in a lot of our stories , probably because it's so short.
I like the five-wordsy way in which it starts off as one thing and ends up as something completely unexpected. It's a good thing we didn't make the Black household all dark and foreboding, and that the kitchen was a cheerful place with burnished copper pots and pans. That leads a touch of authenticity to the tale.
I suppose, since it started off with all three sisters, Bella and Cissy could have had a bit more of a role to play. We dropped them unceremoniously rather early in the plot, but on the whole the story was a nice little peek into life in the Black household on a particular day.
- Verity Weasley, Sept 23, 2011 11:13 am: That's an interesting little story you chose to feature Mona. I had a vague memory of it, but it was good to re-read. I agree that the personalities of the three sisters came across quite nicely in the dialogue, and although Bella and Cissy only featured in the first part of the story, it was a natural exit for them. I can just imagine us posting away and someone introducing the idea of the strange source of the noise. Most of us would have been racking our brains wondering what on earth it could be, but one poster came up with the perfect explanation, which fitted in so neatly with the rest of the storyline you would think it had been planned that way all along. Of course we know that is never the case! Great choice Mona.
- Potteraholic, Sept 23, 2011 9:03 pm: Mona, it's fitting that you chose a relatively short story as we near the end of this thread, Volume XV, since 'Lost and Found' was a volume-ending story, with a limited number of posts. That accounts for its relative brevity. I. too, have a vague recollection of this story and wish I could remember who had the idea for the source of the ticking noise... I do remember that I came up with the house-elf's name, as well as the wee pet bird's.
I think the different personalities of the three Black sisters is firmly established, quite quickly, as Verity said, through dialogue, and while it would have been quite fun to hear more of what Cissy and Bella had to say, their exit from the story makes complete sense in the context of the story: neither of the two are very helpful sorts, and wouldn't be bothered about trying to make Regulus feel better, at least to my way of thinking. They might have made a reappearance at the end of the story if it could've been longer, but all in all, we got a peek into the life of the Black sisters that was quite entertaining and even quite plausible. I think writing a longer story about the three, including some interaction with their mother and aunt, would really present us with lots of opportunities to flex our creative writing muscles.
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This story was featured during the writing of Story #140. It was the 3rd 'Featured Story of the Week'. All times listed are EST.
- Mona, Sept 23, 2011 9:44 am: I chose this story more or less at random. I thought it was short and satisfying. The sentences flow well, and the personalities of the three girls come out well in the dialogue. While it doesn't have those brilliant touches that pop up in quite a few of our stories, neither does it have the dragging parts that also pop up in a lot of our stories , probably because it's so short.
I like the five-wordsy way in which it starts off as one thing and ends up as something completely unexpected. It's a good thing we didn't make the Black household all dark and foreboding, and that the kitchen was a cheerful place with burnished copper pots and pans. That leads a touch of authenticity to the tale.
I suppose, since it started off with all three sisters, Bella and Cissy could have had a bit more of a role to play. We dropped them unceremoniously rather early in the plot, but on the whole the story was a nice little peek into life in the Black household on a particular day.
- Verity Weasley, Sept 23, 2011 11:13 am: That's an interesting little story you chose to feature Mona. I had a vague memory of it, but it was good to re-read. I agree that the personalities of the three sisters came across quite nicely in the dialogue, and although Bella and Cissy only featured in the first part of the story, it was a natural exit for them. I can just imagine us posting away and someone introducing the idea of the strange source of the noise. Most of us would have been racking our brains wondering what on earth it could be, but one poster came up with the perfect explanation, which fitted in so neatly with the rest of the storyline you would think it had been planned that way all along. Of course we know that is never the case! Great choice Mona.
- Potteraholic, Sept 23, 2011 9:03 pm: Mona, it's fitting that you chose a relatively short story as we near the end of this thread, Volume XV, since 'Lost and Found' was a volume-ending story, with a limited number of posts. That accounts for its relative brevity. I. too, have a vague recollection of this story and wish I could remember who had the idea for the source of the ticking noise... I do remember that I came up with the house-elf's name, as well as the wee pet bird's.
I think the different personalities of the three Black sisters is firmly established, quite quickly, as Verity said, through dialogue, and while it would have been quite fun to hear more of what Cissy and Bella had to say, their exit from the story makes complete sense in the context of the story: neither of the two are very helpful sorts, and wouldn't be bothered about trying to make Regulus feel better, at least to my way of thinking. They might have made a reappearance at the end of the story if it could've been longer, but all in all, we got a peek into the life of the Black sisters that was quite entertaining and even quite plausible. I think writing a longer story about the three, including some interaction with their mother and aunt, would really present us with lots of opportunities to flex our creative writing muscles.
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I am working on reformatting 'The Meaning of the Prophecy' thread at the mo'. My oh my, some of those opinions/theories/interpretations are doing my head in! Especially the posts with absolutely no paragraph breaks.
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I am working on reformatting 'The Meaning of the Prophecy' thread at the mo'. My oh my, some of those opinions/theories/interpretations are doing my head in! Especially the posts with absolutely no paragraph breaks.
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PAH, don't tell me you read all the posts you're reposting!
I went and had a look, and I love that little crystal ball with the index link at the end. I'm planning to put in some images for my still-on-the-drawingboard Snape guide, like decorative initials for the beginning of each new alphabet. I'll have to learn how to get it into the right place.
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Mona, I normally do not read the threads I repost, but for some reason, this thread was chocker-block full of these sorts of marks:
Also, Mona and Julia, have either one of you been in contact with John or Lady Arabella? Neither one of them has posted in the 'Efforts to Archive' threads for a wee while. They both have lots of threads archived... it'd be good to try and finish some of the sections that are halfway, or more than halfway done, and I know some of us have volunteered to repost threads for them. Out of 23 sections, 5 are all done!
Thanks, Mona, re: the image of the prophecy. You know me... I love visuals! I just wish I had thought of using non-forum smileys sooner, when I reposted other threads. It's amazing what's available online in icon size when you do a Google search for images. I made a thumbnail version of that amazing letter B in your post using the image hosting option on this forum:
Julia, an update about the Re-read of Deathly Hallow pre-DH movie, part 1: I decided to post it in the Read-along section, (added: rather than the 'Movies' section'). Also, I posted all the chapter summaries as separate posts followed by posters' comments, then made an index in the header post listing all the chapter summaries. That seemed to make the most sense to me.
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Mona, I normally do not read the threads I repost, but for some reason, this thread was chocker-block full of these sorts of marks:
¥ n ~ ß Ω ? ". . ."
... so I am having to skim through the posts to figure out what to put in their place. I posted something about that here in the 'The Trials and Triumphs of the Archiving Process' thread. Has anyone else had that problem, with an abundance of random symbols? Also, Mona and Julia, have either one of you been in contact with John or Lady Arabella? Neither one of them has posted in the 'Efforts to Archive' threads for a wee while. They both have lots of threads archived... it'd be good to try and finish some of the sections that are halfway, or more than halfway done, and I know some of us have volunteered to repost threads for them. Out of 23 sections, 5 are all done!
Thanks, Mona, re: the image of the prophecy. You know me... I love visuals! I just wish I had thought of using non-forum smileys sooner, when I reposted other threads. It's amazing what's available online in icon size when you do a Google search for images. I made a thumbnail version of that amazing letter B in your post using the image hosting option on this forum:
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Julia, an update about the Re-read of Deathly Hallow pre-DH movie, part 1: I decided to post it in the Read-along section, (added: rather than the 'Movies' section'). Also, I posted all the chapter summaries as separate posts followed by posters' comments, then made an index in the header post listing all the chapter summaries. That seemed to make the most sense to me.
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Thanks, Verity! But I think that even fewer forum members will notice these reposted threads once Girl Scout cookie season starts.
Mona, this was one particularly arduous post to reformat with so many ?s everywhere: (Some were " " and some were ' '. ugh...)
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Thanks, Verity! But I think that even fewer forum members will notice these reposted threads once Girl Scout cookie season starts.
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- Mete Ower - Aug 18, 2004 4:08 pm (#154 of 601)
The prophecy's been giving me a headache. So I took the only course of action possible: compile a list of every possible meaning of every part of the prophecy. I gave myself two restrictions. The "Dark Lord" stays the Dark Lord and I pretend I don't know anything about any of the characters in Harry Potter. The result is very interesting. At least now I can follow different prophecy theories without making my head explode.
1. The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches...
1.a When you combine it with the phrase "born to those who have thrice defied him" this simply means, 'The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born soon.'
1.b The word "approaches" is meant to be taken literally. Dumbledore mentioned something about someone overhearing the prophecy. That person is the one "approaching" the room containing Trelawney and Dumbledore and is the one with the power to defeat the Dark Lord. This should basically read, 'The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord is coming upstairs.'
2. Born to those who have thrice defied him.
Note: "have" means that the defiance has already occurred three times but nothing indicates if the birth has already happened or not.
2.a As it is commonly believed, this means 'It’s a person birthed by parents that have defied the Dark Lord three times.'
2.b The plural form used here doesn’t exclude the possibility that this means 'They’re the babies birthed by parents that have defied the Dark Lord three times.' This is only possible if the babies put together make "the one".
2.c "Him" doesn’t refer to the Dark Lord but to "the one". The sentence should then read 'He is the child of parents that have defied him - the one with the power to defeat the Dark Lord- three times.' That would mean that the person exists already. The sentence looked awkward until I investigated the different definitions of the word "defy."
3. Born as the seventh month dies.
Note: The birth can still have already happened or be yet to come. It just has to be at the end of July. Also, the person born to "those that have thrice defied him" doesn’t have to be the same as the person "born as the seventh month dies." It can be the same person but since there was a comma this could be an enumeration since the rest of the phrases in the prophecy also split into fragments or uses vague pronouns. Fortunately, I haven’t seen anyone insist that this was the case as it makes me want to drive my head in a wall.
3.a Simply 'His birthday is at the end of July.'
3.b Still nothing to exclude the plural. This could read 'Their birthdays are the end of July.'
3.c In tarot, drawing the death card doesn’t mean you’re going to die. Thus, in a prophecy, "born" doesn’t necessarily mean a baby. It can mean a new beginning. Like, the "birth" of a champion doesn't mean the champion is a baby. Just that someone becomes a champion. So, 'He’ll become the one with the power to defeat the Dark Lord at the end of July.'
4. And the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal.
Note: We know that the marking hasn’t happened yet but we don’t know when it will. For all we know, it still hasn’t happened. At least, now we know we’re talking about guys.
4.a 'The Dark Lord will give him some kind of mark that shows they’re equal.'
4.b Now, this gets a little more complicated. Let's say two babies were born at the end of July and that somehow together they are "the one." (Use 2.b and 3.b) Let’s call one 'Twiddle-dee' and the other 'Twiddle-dum'. The Dark Lord will mark Twiddle-dee and thus show that Twiddle-dee is the equal of Twiddle-dum. So 'The Dark Lord will give a mark to a baby and prove that he’s as good as the other baby.' Or, 'the Dark Lord will mark him (Twiddle-dee) as his (Twiddle-dum) equal.' Yes, I’m aware that this is insane.
5. But he will have power the Dark Lord knows not?
Note: We know that "he" will have power, we just don’t know when. Also the "him" in 4 doesn’t have to be the "he" in 5. It can be 'And the Dark Lord will mark Twiddle-dee as his equal but Twiddle-dum will have power the Dark Lord knows not.'
5.a 'but he will have a secret magic that the Dark Lord doesn’t know about.'
5.b 'but he will have some kind of magic the Dark Lord can’t do.'
6. and either must die at the hand of the other.
Alright. We have Twiddle-dee, Twiddle-dum and the Dark Lord. Let’s also add in (because this isn’t complicated enough, a random alien. Bonus: "at the hand" can either mean 'killed by' or actually mean 'near the hand'.
6.a 'The Dark Lord has to kill the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord or the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord must kill the Dark Lord.' So, either the Dark Lord kills Twiddle-dee or Twiddle-dee kills the Dark Lord. This is the version Dumbledore and Harry believe.
6.b 'Someone will kill either the Dark Lord or the person with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord.' A random alien, also known as "the other" , will kill Twiddle-dee or the Dark Lord. Fortunately, this doesn’t make any sense with the rest of the sentence.
6.c "the hand of the other" is a place. The important part here is the location. So, 'Once they are near the hand of the right person, either the Dark Lord or the person with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will die.'
6.d Say 4 and 5 refer to two different people. Either Twiddle-dee or Twiddle-dum must die at the hand of the Dark Lord. Once again, "at the hand" either means right besides the Dark Lord or killed by the hand of the Dark Lord. So, 'Either the one that has been marked at the Dark Lord's equal or the one with the power the Dark Lord knows not must die.' If this was the case, the sentence would probably be 'and either must die at the hand of the Dark Lord.'
6.e Once again, 4 and 5 refer to two different people. 'either Twiddle-dee must kill Twiddle-dum or Twiddle-dum must kill Twiddle-dee.' 'The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord has to kill the one that has been marked as his equal or vice-versa.'
7. "for neither can live while the other survives." Note: just substitute the right people at the right places and keep in mind that the "other" can be yet another different person.
7.a 'Neither can live while the other is still alive.' In other words, neither can have a normal life while the other is there.
7.b 'They will both die if one of them is not killed.'
8. 'The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies.'
Note: See 3 but this time note that the 'birth' hasn’t happened yet. Don't forget that being "born" doesn't necessarily mean babies.
With all of the different meanings the prophecy can take, I'm just not that confident in Dumbledore's claim that the prophecy is about Harry. I know that Harry has to be vital to the story (the books ARE named Harry Potter and the...) but does the prophecy have to be about him?
There's easily a way to formulate a scenario where both Harry and Neville are involved in the prophecy at the same time. But more interestingly, the word "approaches" used in the first sentence opens up a whole new world of possibilities.
Mete Ower - Aug 18, 2004 4:14 pm (#155 of 601)
(continued from post 154) Let's say that Severus Snape approached a certain door and over-heard a certain prophecy. Let's take the following pattern: 1.b -2.c -3.c -4.a -5.a -6.a -7.a. Don't worry, the "translation" of the prophecy is included.
The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord (Severus Snape) is coming upstairs. He (Severus Snape) is the child of parents that have defied him (Severus Snape) three times. He’ll become the one with the power to defeat the Dark Lord at the end of July. The Dark Lord will give him some kind of mark (Death Eater tattoo) that shows they’re equal but he’ll have a secret magic (Occlumency) the Dark Lord doesn’t know about. Either the Dark Lord will kill him or he’ll kill the Dark Lord. For neither can live while the other survives. (Severus Snape can’t have a normal existence as long as he has the tattoo and the Dark Lord can’t have a normal existence if there’s warning every time he summons his Death Eaters.)
It doesn't stop here. What if Wormtail was the spy? Is a new hand considered a "mark?" Does *he* have a tattoo?
I think my head hurts again...
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Looks like we'll be done with Story #141 before the day is out tomorrow. As I mentioned in the beginning of this volume, after the 2nd installment of the 'Chronicles of Crookshanks' was posted, I'm no longer going to rush the posting of the finished story and stats. So I could have the story up later on in the week, sometime Wednesday or Thursday, the 28th or 29th.
Verity, half that 'Prophecy' thread is posted, and the other half is a touch less mind-boggling. Then, unless Lady Arabella or John Bumbledore pass along some of their archived threads to me (or some other archivists), I'm done with reposting. We're not at 60% yet... it'd be nice to get more reposted before 2012 arrives.
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Looks like we'll be done with Story #141 before the day is out tomorrow. As I mentioned in the beginning of this volume, after the 2nd installment of the 'Chronicles of Crookshanks' was posted, I'm no longer going to rush the posting of the finished story and stats. So I could have the story up later on in the week, sometime Wednesday or Thursday, the 28th or 29th.
Verity, half that 'Prophecy' thread is posted, and the other half is a touch less mind-boggling. Then, unless Lady Arabella or John Bumbledore pass along some of their archived threads to me (or some other archivists), I'm done with reposting. We're not at 60% yet... it'd be nice to get more reposted before 2012 arrives.
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