Wizengamot Trial (Part III): Severus Snape
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Wizengamot Trial (Part III): Severus Snape
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Re: Wizengamot Trial (Part III): Severus Snape
Wizengamot Trial (Part III): Severus Snape
S.E. Jones - Jan 31, 2007 2:52 am
Edited Feb 22, 2007 1:11 am
Final Snape trial poll, I promise.
Wizengamot Trial (Part III): Severus Snape:
After being tried by the Wizengamot and being charged with the murder of Albus Dumbledore, Severus Snape was found guilty. What sentence would you choose for him?
A - Less than 10 years in Azkaban
B - More than 10 years in Azkaban
C - Dementor's Kiss (assuming we can find one that isn't following You-Know-Who)
D - Community Service in the form of being Filch's assistant at Hogwarts (under Auror supervision)
E - Writing "I will not use Unforgivable Curses" 1000 times with Umbridge's cursed quill
F - Something else even worse
(Based on a suggestion by John Bumbledore)
This poll will be closed sometime after 12pm (server time) on February 21, 2007.
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TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 31, 2007 4:16 am (#1 of 36)
C
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Mrs Brisbee - Jan 31, 2007 4:41 am (#2 of 36)
B. Life in Azkaban-- in keeping with what other punishments we have seen for major criminals in the Wizarding World.
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azi - Jan 31, 2007 6:00 am (#3 of 36)
I also choose B. Murder = life imprisonment in my opinion.
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painting sheila - Jan 31, 2007 7:03 am (#4 of 36)
B - but how fun would it be to watch D ?
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Esther Rose - Jan 31, 2007 8:02 am (#5 of 36)
I would really love to see Snape live the rest of his life as Lucius Malfoy's house elf. (Unknown to Lucius of course)
However that would be a wish of revenge.
So, It would have to be B.
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TomProffitt - Jan 31, 2007 8:18 am (#6 of 36)
B-Life in Azkaban
Although, frankly I think the investigation of the murder has been botched and he'll get out on appeal after DH. Until then he should be locked up.
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Elanor - Jan 31, 2007 8:33 am (#7 of 36)
I agree Tom!
Could there be a:
G: On remand till after the DH and the appeal trial?
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sstabeler - Jan 31, 2007 10:36 am (#8 of 36)
depends on the method, but assuming he used an AK on a fellow human, there is only one sentence available to the wizengamot, that of Life in azkaban, so B. although, would the WW have the death penalty?
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haymoni - Jan 31, 2007 11:16 am (#9 of 36)
B
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kaykay1970 - Jan 31, 2007 11:23 am (#10 of 36)
B
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Mattew Bates - Jan 31, 2007 12:06 pm (#11 of 36)
B
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MickeyCee3948 - Jan 31, 2007 12:56 pm (#12 of 36)
B
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wynnleaf - Jan 31, 2007 1:36 pm (#13 of 36)
Since I voted that he wasn't guilty in the first place, I wouldn't necessarily want to vote for a punishment. On the other hand, if he was found guilty, one has to do something with him. So I like the notion of
G: On remand till after the DH and the appeal trial.
As suggested by Elanor.
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Finn BV - Jan 31, 2007 2:20 pm (#14 of 36)
Well, considering that I didn't find him guilty, in the first place, I would have voted A or D or E. But thinking neutrally, and pretending that he did indeed kill DD (as he was found by the Wizengamot), I would have to vote C.
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Luna Logic - Jan 31, 2007 3:16 pm (#15 of 36)
G: On remand till after the DH and the appeal trial.
Azkaban or the dementors are not my view of any justice.
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Pamzter - Jan 31, 2007 7:26 pm (#16 of 36)
Sorry, I have to take the "G" route as well.
I would also wear a "Free Severus" t-shirt.
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Mediwitch - Jan 31, 2007 8:19 pm (#17 of 36)
I'm with painting sheila - B, but D would be a hoot!
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Thom Matheson - Jan 31, 2007 8:20 pm (#18 of 36)
Gotta go C, Like I said, " I'm told it is difficult to watch, but I'll do my best".
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Madam Pince - Jan 31, 2007 10:28 pm (#19 of 36)
Once again, I agree with TomProffitt that the investigation was botched and that Snape will be redeemed on appeal. But until the appeal, clearly a convicted murderer can't run around loose, so lock him in Azkaban. If he loses the appeal after DH, then sorry, but it's the Dementor's Kiss for him! (Gina, you look good in black anyway...)
So what does that vote out to? I guess A -- Azkaban for less than ten years, because it's just until the appeal. (At which point I feel sure he will be vindicated.)
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Hoot Owl - Feb 1, 2007 10:56 am (#20 of 36)
B
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Anna L. Black - Feb 1, 2007 2:33 pm (#21 of 36)
Well, if G becomes an option, I'm voting G, as I didn't think him guilty in the first place. But if not, then we have to go by the verdict - B, definitely.
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geauxtigers - Feb 1, 2007 3:14 pm (#22 of 36)
I'm going to say either B or E. I didn't think he was guilty in the fisrt place so, I dunno. E is horrible, I think he should have to do something torturous that Harry was made to do. But I also think that LIFE in Azkaban is better than more than 10 years. So I guess I'll go with B. But I think if he did kill DD, then he deserves life in prison.
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journeymom - Feb 2, 2007 11:25 am (#23 of 36)
C - Dementor's Kiss
In Snape poll II he was found Guilty, for whatever reason. He was not found Guilty with mitigating circumstances.
Though I personally think there are mitigating circumstances that will put Snape in a positive light, the above Guilty charge does not allow for that. Therefore we, the jury, cannot take any mitigating circumstances into consideration and must rule on the Guilty charge only. We cannot take into consideration Snape's motivation, whether for or against the good side.
So, sadly, I'm forced to apply the harshest sentence possible, the Dementor's Kiss. JKR has made no precedent for the death penalty.
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Good Evans - Feb 2, 2007 12:23 pm (#24 of 36)
It must be B, but I am disappointed in the verdict. sentence passed with heavy heart!
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Tazzygirl - Feb 2, 2007 4:55 pm (#25 of 36)
Count me in the C group!
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virginiaelizabeth - Feb 2, 2007 10:36 pm (#26 of 36)
Well, if the Dementors aren't controlling Azkaban, then sending him there wouldn't do much good, so A and B are out. I would love to say D, but that's not mean enough IMO. I think I'll go with B anyway. I don't think he deserves to have his soul sucked out. It's worse than death and I don't think anyone deserves that, not even Snape, Voldy maybe(that is, if there's any soul left in him to suck out!), but not Snape.
So B.
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septentrion - Feb 3, 2007 9:00 am (#27 of 36)
I join in the G group, and in the protest at Azkaban's doors if he's to be executed.
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Madame Pomfrey - Feb 3, 2007 8:50 pm (#28 of 36)
C. He has been found guilty of killing our beloved Dumbledore. Nothing less than the Dementors kiss would satisfy me I'm afarid.
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Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 4, 2007 9:21 am (#29 of 36)
Um now, unlike those who believe Snape to be innocent I am convinced that he is guilty. If JKR makes him innocent in the next book it will ruin the series for me. A is not long enough. E is a bit of a cop out. I like the idea of D, especially if his wand is snapped and a charm is put on Snape to stop him using magic. So its either B or C. I'm not into capital punishment of any type (though I'm sure that a soul-less Snape would make a nice ornament at Spinner's End) so that rules out C. So it must be B ! Take him away.
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juliebug - Feb 4, 2007 11:19 am (#30 of 36)
I don't quite feel right about passing a final judgment on our potions master until all the evidence has been presented. I think he should be kept in custody at Azkaban until all the evidence has been presented. Keep the dementors ready though, innocent is not really a word I easily associate with Snape. B for now.
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Laura W - Feb 5, 2007 3:13 am (#31 of 36)
Ok, after much careful consideration, I am finally going to vote.
The way the question was asked Severus Snape was tried by the Wizengamot, who found him guilty of the murder of Albus Dumbledore. Since he was legally and officially charged with and tried for this accused crime (with the opportunity to defend himself or have a wizard lawyer(?) do so, I hope) - which is more than one can say in the case of Sirius Black -, and was found guilty of same by those whose job it is to determine such things, he should be sentenced to the penalty decided upon in law for that particular crime - which in this case is life in Azkaban. Or so I see it.
So I vote for B.
(Like virginiaelizabeth, (and Lupin?) I could never agree to C for anybody; not even Tom Riddle.)
Laura
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Solitaire - Feb 11, 2007 10:40 pm (#32 of 36)
I do not place the greatest faith in the way the Wizarding establishment investigates crimes. After all, Sirius was considered guilty and left to rot in Azkaban for 12 years. Unless there is proof beyond all shadow of a doubt ... I think I'll have to agree partially with Esther Rose. Snape needs to work as a House-Elf! Perhaps Dobby could be his supervisor. Okay, I'll be "sirius" ... I think he should be condemned to Azkaban indefinitely, if he is found guilty.
Solitaire
(Unlike Laura, I have no problem with Riddle getting the Big Kiss.)
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Snuffles - Feb 19, 2007 5:13 am (#33 of 36)
I'll have to go B.
Then if the giant Squid does turn out to be DD and he isn't really dead, we can let him out of Azkaban!
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Nicholas Schouten - Feb 20, 2007 8:36 pm (#34 of 36)
If G becomes an option, I'm voting G. But if not, then - A.
-Nick
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Ludicrous Patents Office - Feb 21, 2007 8:44 pm (#35 of 36)
B. A life sentence in Azkaban. And I hope his wand is snapped. He has used his power to bully and hurt too many people. I want him powerless. No need to hurt or bully him, just let him know he is powerless. LPO
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S.E. Jones - Feb 22, 2007 1:45 am (#36 of 36)
I'm going to close this poll so I can tally the results.
Final Snape trial poll, I promise.
Results: 35 votes; most voted for answer in red.
Question: What sentence would you choose for [Snape]?
A - 8 of 35; 22.9% - Less than 10 years in Azkaban
B - 21 of 35; 60.0% - More than 10 years in Azkaban
C - 6 of 35; 17.1% - Dementor's Kiss (assuming we can find one that isn't following You-Know-Who)
D - 0 of 35; 0% - Community Service in the form of being Filch's assistant at Hogwarts (under Auror supervision)
E - 0 of 35; 0% - Writing "I will not use Unforgivable Curses" 1000 times with Umbridge's cursed quill
F - 0 of 35; 0% - Something else even worse
Note: As 'G' (being remanded until DH is released) wasn't an option, all votes for 'G' became votes for 'A' (in Azkaban for less than 10 years).
S.E. Jones - Jan 31, 2007 2:52 am
Edited Feb 22, 2007 1:11 am
Final Snape trial poll, I promise.
Wizengamot Trial (Part III): Severus Snape:
After being tried by the Wizengamot and being charged with the murder of Albus Dumbledore, Severus Snape was found guilty. What sentence would you choose for him?
A - Less than 10 years in Azkaban
B - More than 10 years in Azkaban
C - Dementor's Kiss (assuming we can find one that isn't following You-Know-Who)
D - Community Service in the form of being Filch's assistant at Hogwarts (under Auror supervision)
E - Writing "I will not use Unforgivable Curses" 1000 times with Umbridge's cursed quill
F - Something else even worse
(Based on a suggestion by John Bumbledore)
This poll will be closed sometime after 12pm (server time) on February 21, 2007.
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TwinklingBlueEyes - Jan 31, 2007 4:16 am (#1 of 36)
C
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Mrs Brisbee - Jan 31, 2007 4:41 am (#2 of 36)
B. Life in Azkaban-- in keeping with what other punishments we have seen for major criminals in the Wizarding World.
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azi - Jan 31, 2007 6:00 am (#3 of 36)
I also choose B. Murder = life imprisonment in my opinion.
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painting sheila - Jan 31, 2007 7:03 am (#4 of 36)
B - but how fun would it be to watch D ?
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Esther Rose - Jan 31, 2007 8:02 am (#5 of 36)
I would really love to see Snape live the rest of his life as Lucius Malfoy's house elf. (Unknown to Lucius of course)
However that would be a wish of revenge.
So, It would have to be B.
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TomProffitt - Jan 31, 2007 8:18 am (#6 of 36)
B-Life in Azkaban
Although, frankly I think the investigation of the murder has been botched and he'll get out on appeal after DH. Until then he should be locked up.
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Elanor - Jan 31, 2007 8:33 am (#7 of 36)
I agree Tom!
Could there be a:
G: On remand till after the DH and the appeal trial?
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sstabeler - Jan 31, 2007 10:36 am (#8 of 36)
depends on the method, but assuming he used an AK on a fellow human, there is only one sentence available to the wizengamot, that of Life in azkaban, so B. although, would the WW have the death penalty?
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haymoni - Jan 31, 2007 11:16 am (#9 of 36)
B
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kaykay1970 - Jan 31, 2007 11:23 am (#10 of 36)
B
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Mattew Bates - Jan 31, 2007 12:06 pm (#11 of 36)
B
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MickeyCee3948 - Jan 31, 2007 12:56 pm (#12 of 36)
B
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wynnleaf - Jan 31, 2007 1:36 pm (#13 of 36)
Since I voted that he wasn't guilty in the first place, I wouldn't necessarily want to vote for a punishment. On the other hand, if he was found guilty, one has to do something with him. So I like the notion of
G: On remand till after the DH and the appeal trial.
As suggested by Elanor.
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Finn BV - Jan 31, 2007 2:20 pm (#14 of 36)
Well, considering that I didn't find him guilty, in the first place, I would have voted A or D or E. But thinking neutrally, and pretending that he did indeed kill DD (as he was found by the Wizengamot), I would have to vote C.
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Luna Logic - Jan 31, 2007 3:16 pm (#15 of 36)
G: On remand till after the DH and the appeal trial.
Azkaban or the dementors are not my view of any justice.
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Pamzter - Jan 31, 2007 7:26 pm (#16 of 36)
Sorry, I have to take the "G" route as well.
I would also wear a "Free Severus" t-shirt.
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Mediwitch - Jan 31, 2007 8:19 pm (#17 of 36)
I'm with painting sheila - B, but D would be a hoot!
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Thom Matheson - Jan 31, 2007 8:20 pm (#18 of 36)
Gotta go C, Like I said, " I'm told it is difficult to watch, but I'll do my best".
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Madam Pince - Jan 31, 2007 10:28 pm (#19 of 36)
Once again, I agree with TomProffitt that the investigation was botched and that Snape will be redeemed on appeal. But until the appeal, clearly a convicted murderer can't run around loose, so lock him in Azkaban. If he loses the appeal after DH, then sorry, but it's the Dementor's Kiss for him! (Gina, you look good in black anyway...)
So what does that vote out to? I guess A -- Azkaban for less than ten years, because it's just until the appeal. (At which point I feel sure he will be vindicated.)
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Hoot Owl - Feb 1, 2007 10:56 am (#20 of 36)
B
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Anna L. Black - Feb 1, 2007 2:33 pm (#21 of 36)
Well, if G becomes an option, I'm voting G, as I didn't think him guilty in the first place. But if not, then we have to go by the verdict - B, definitely.
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geauxtigers - Feb 1, 2007 3:14 pm (#22 of 36)
I'm going to say either B or E. I didn't think he was guilty in the fisrt place so, I dunno. E is horrible, I think he should have to do something torturous that Harry was made to do. But I also think that LIFE in Azkaban is better than more than 10 years. So I guess I'll go with B. But I think if he did kill DD, then he deserves life in prison.
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journeymom - Feb 2, 2007 11:25 am (#23 of 36)
C - Dementor's Kiss
In Snape poll II he was found Guilty, for whatever reason. He was not found Guilty with mitigating circumstances.
Though I personally think there are mitigating circumstances that will put Snape in a positive light, the above Guilty charge does not allow for that. Therefore we, the jury, cannot take any mitigating circumstances into consideration and must rule on the Guilty charge only. We cannot take into consideration Snape's motivation, whether for or against the good side.
So, sadly, I'm forced to apply the harshest sentence possible, the Dementor's Kiss. JKR has made no precedent for the death penalty.
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Good Evans - Feb 2, 2007 12:23 pm (#24 of 36)
It must be B, but I am disappointed in the verdict. sentence passed with heavy heart!
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Tazzygirl - Feb 2, 2007 4:55 pm (#25 of 36)
Count me in the C group!
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virginiaelizabeth - Feb 2, 2007 10:36 pm (#26 of 36)
Well, if the Dementors aren't controlling Azkaban, then sending him there wouldn't do much good, so A and B are out. I would love to say D, but that's not mean enough IMO. I think I'll go with B anyway. I don't think he deserves to have his soul sucked out. It's worse than death and I don't think anyone deserves that, not even Snape, Voldy maybe(that is, if there's any soul left in him to suck out!), but not Snape.
So B.
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septentrion - Feb 3, 2007 9:00 am (#27 of 36)
I join in the G group, and in the protest at Azkaban's doors if he's to be executed.
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Madame Pomfrey - Feb 3, 2007 8:50 pm (#28 of 36)
C. He has been found guilty of killing our beloved Dumbledore. Nothing less than the Dementors kiss would satisfy me I'm afarid.
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Phelim Mcintyre - Feb 4, 2007 9:21 am (#29 of 36)
Um now, unlike those who believe Snape to be innocent I am convinced that he is guilty. If JKR makes him innocent in the next book it will ruin the series for me. A is not long enough. E is a bit of a cop out. I like the idea of D, especially if his wand is snapped and a charm is put on Snape to stop him using magic. So its either B or C. I'm not into capital punishment of any type (though I'm sure that a soul-less Snape would make a nice ornament at Spinner's End) so that rules out C. So it must be B ! Take him away.
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juliebug - Feb 4, 2007 11:19 am (#30 of 36)
I don't quite feel right about passing a final judgment on our potions master until all the evidence has been presented. I think he should be kept in custody at Azkaban until all the evidence has been presented. Keep the dementors ready though, innocent is not really a word I easily associate with Snape. B for now.
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Laura W - Feb 5, 2007 3:13 am (#31 of 36)
Ok, after much careful consideration, I am finally going to vote.
The way the question was asked Severus Snape was tried by the Wizengamot, who found him guilty of the murder of Albus Dumbledore. Since he was legally and officially charged with and tried for this accused crime (with the opportunity to defend himself or have a wizard lawyer(?) do so, I hope) - which is more than one can say in the case of Sirius Black -, and was found guilty of same by those whose job it is to determine such things, he should be sentenced to the penalty decided upon in law for that particular crime - which in this case is life in Azkaban. Or so I see it.
So I vote for B.
(Like virginiaelizabeth, (and Lupin?) I could never agree to C for anybody; not even Tom Riddle.)
Laura
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Solitaire - Feb 11, 2007 10:40 pm (#32 of 36)
I do not place the greatest faith in the way the Wizarding establishment investigates crimes. After all, Sirius was considered guilty and left to rot in Azkaban for 12 years. Unless there is proof beyond all shadow of a doubt ... I think I'll have to agree partially with Esther Rose. Snape needs to work as a House-Elf! Perhaps Dobby could be his supervisor. Okay, I'll be "sirius" ... I think he should be condemned to Azkaban indefinitely, if he is found guilty.
Solitaire
(Unlike Laura, I have no problem with Riddle getting the Big Kiss.)
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Snuffles - Feb 19, 2007 5:13 am (#33 of 36)
I'll have to go B.
Then if the giant Squid does turn out to be DD and he isn't really dead, we can let him out of Azkaban!
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Nicholas Schouten - Feb 20, 2007 8:36 pm (#34 of 36)
If G becomes an option, I'm voting G. But if not, then - A.
-Nick
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Ludicrous Patents Office - Feb 21, 2007 8:44 pm (#35 of 36)
B. A life sentence in Azkaban. And I hope his wand is snapped. He has used his power to bully and hurt too many people. I want him powerless. No need to hurt or bully him, just let him know he is powerless. LPO
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S.E. Jones - Feb 22, 2007 1:45 am (#36 of 36)
I'm going to close this poll so I can tally the results.
Final Snape trial poll, I promise.
Results: 35 votes; most voted for answer in red.
Question: What sentence would you choose for [Snape]?
A - 8 of 35; 22.9% - Less than 10 years in Azkaban
B - 21 of 35; 60.0% - More than 10 years in Azkaban
C - 6 of 35; 17.1% - Dementor's Kiss (assuming we can find one that isn't following You-Know-Who)
D - 0 of 35; 0% - Community Service in the form of being Filch's assistant at Hogwarts (under Auror supervision)
E - 0 of 35; 0% - Writing "I will not use Unforgivable Curses" 1000 times with Umbridge's cursed quill
F - 0 of 35; 0% - Something else even worse
Note: As 'G' (being remanded until DH is released) wasn't an option, all votes for 'G' became votes for 'A' (in Azkaban for less than 10 years).
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